Former Submariner FEARS What Lies Ahead - Britain MUST Prepare For War: Jeff Taylor

27:25I'm fishing. He said, no, you're not. He said, I'll show you how to fish. Disappeared for a couple of minutes and came back with a massive meat hook. You know, a proper meat hook. and a piece of cow or something. He put the meat on the meat hook and he tied a thick rope, not a fishing line, I'm talking about a thick rope to this hook, and then he just threw it over the side. 30 seconds later, wham, something took it. So by then it attracted some attention from other blokes around and other sailors. and looked over the side, started hauling this thing and suddenly realised it was a shark. They had got hold of it within seconds.

28:14And they pulled it up and brought it onto the waist of the ship on the gangway, which was about five foot wide, something like that. And this thing was there and it was snapping like mad. Anyway, we had a reason to have someone with an assault rifle available. Anyway, they were doing something else, which I won't go into. But they were, he looked at it and he was about to shoot this thing through the head. He went right up to it. And I said, don't do that. And he said, why not? I said, well, that's an assault rifle. It might either go through the ship or bounce up, ricochet and hurt someone. So, right, okay.

28:55So he made the weapon safe. So he took the round up, the spout out, put it in the magazine, put that in his pocket and then grabbed the barrel and he hit the shark over the head until he'd done it. We had shark soup and shark steak for two whole weeks. What's shark taste like? Very strong fish. It is. It's actually very nice, you know, but once in a while if you get my drift, yeah. What's the most mentally challenging thing underwater and how did you deal with the mental challenges that you faced? The biggest thing is the awe of the ocean. The ocean is unforgiving and it's immense. And when you get the idea of the size of it and you're looking out, I'll give you an idea.

29:43I was a submarine when it's going through underwater. It's like airspace management because if there's other submarines in the area, then you want to keep clear of them and you want to know where they are. So you have area designations and all the rest of it to keep them safe from each other. That's the friendly submarines. There could be an unfriendly in there that we don't know anything about. But generally, the friendly submarines have this sort of water space management thing. And nuclear submarines always travel underwater if they can. It's the most efficient way for them to travel. The only reason they travel on the surface really is if they wanted to get from A to B extremely quickly without bothering about being detected.

30:24So they wouldn't worry about it. But one of the reasons you would surface is if the water below you had too many submarines in it already. We were forced to surface in a Force 9 or 10 gale. And the Force 9 or 10 gale was going that way, and we wanted to go that way. Now, when a submarine is on the surface, the officer of the watch and the lookout, who on a warship would be on a bridge with windows and, you know, all covered. No, they're in a little hole. You know, the bit they call the conning tower is actually called the fin, the big bit on top, you know. At the front, there's a little hole which you stand in.

31:07And that's the bridge, really, for the surface submarine. And you stand in that hole, open to the weather. So anything, it's raining or whatever, you've got your foul weather gear on and you get cold and you just do your two-hour stint. But we had to go through this storm and the waves coming the other side were immense, well higher than the fin on the submarine. Now, a submarine has got what's called a low level of reserve buoyancy. It's designed to sink, basically. So when you're travelling along and you meet a wave, it doesn't bob up and down like a ship would. It goes straight through. So you're on the fin and this wave's coming towards you.

31:49You know what's going to happen. The water rushes up inside the fin, rushes up outside at the same rate, and it engulfs you. You're underwater. So you just take a deep breath, put your head down, and wait for the wave to go over. And it's very high, very high above your head. And the thing is that you're wearing foul weather gear to keep you dry, but the water just comes up and it seals your foul weather gear. against your body so that when the wave's gone and recedes, you're still dry inside. It's amazing, you know, and you've got a wet face and all the rest of it and you had to hold your breath.

32:26But that went on for two hours, you know, every 30, 40 seconds one of these waves was coming over. When I went down below afterwards and the guy said, you do realise that when the height of the wave went over, the submarine effectively was at the same depth as periscope depth, i.e. fully submerged, fully submerged with room to spare. And that's what people went through. Just that. And we were all obviously tied in with shackles and stuff to make sure we weren't hoiked out of the submarine by the force of the waves and all the rest of it. You know, just had a torch, microphone and the compass. Go that way sort of thing.

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33:45And the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier, so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together. Shop now at palmolive.com. Yeah, it sounds very unnerving. Other than that, was there any moments where you felt completely paralyzed with fear that stuck with you and made you realize just how deep in it you are? Not fear. one of the things that you learn about is that you know that if anything goes wrong there's a procedure to deal with it and you these procedures are ingrained into every submariner absolutely ingrained if there's a high pressure air burst you know what to do if there's a hydraulic burst you know what to do if there's a flood you know what to do if something breaks you know what to do.

34:30The whole crew. It's all sort of like a machine. So, but I was in one submarine when we we'd built it in Barrow and Furness, where we build our nuclear submarines. I was there as part of the crew while it was being built. And so I had to go through the submarine. I had to learn all about it, every single nook and cranny of it while it was being built. And then we took it out and we did what's called a deep dive test. Now, can you imagine this is the first time this submarine has been to sea and you're now going to take it down to its maximum operating depth. I won't tell you what that is because that's a national secret, but you take it down to that depth and make sure everything works.

35:15Now, if you tie a piece of string, if you go right down to deep diving depth and tie a piece of string from one side of the submarine to another and you come up, the string will break because the submarine shrinks as you go down and expands as it goes up. Okay? And everything is designed with that in mind. However, when we got down to deep diving depth on this particular submarine, there was the loudest bang you can imagine. We got down there, everything's quiet, then suddenly bang. We all looked at each other expecting the alarm to go off from something or somewhere so then we knew what we'd have to do but we were waiting nothing nothing happened so we all relaxed and we were going around we were a bit on edge after that for a while as you can imagine is something gonna happen when we surfaced we found it was there's a compass on the um on the bridge as i said and it's filled with oil so that it can withstand depths so it goes all the way not only rotates smoothly it can withstand the depth that you go down to because it's it's just filled with packed full of oil.

36:18Trouble is there'd been an air bubble in there somehow. So the air bubble was pressed, you know, with the whole thing contract and it cracked the whole unit and it basically blew up. So that was what that was. Now you was lucky enough to be in the military before the woke mine virus infected the military and there was no DEI recruitments. I mean, I can imagine it's it's very much changed but what was the was you able to have a have a laugh underwater without offending people oh yeah definitely um the this this was the beauty of it we had um i can't even say some of the stuff now we had was there a designated area to masturbate for example well there were four there were four cubicles but but no any fights on deck Very, very few.

37:12You didn't really want to be doing that. I mean, you had a bit of, you know, you might have a bit of an angle with someone or whatever, but it never, in my experience, went further than that. And if it did, it happened off the ship. It happened elsewhere. This is probably a very naive question on my behalf, but is there women on deck? Not during my day. There were no women at sea. Well, I say during my day. During the 90s, you started seeing women at sea on the larger vessels. Now they're everywhere, which is fine if they can do the job. I've got no problem with that. It does put another dynamic, though, into it on the relationship level, which can be a problem, especially, I mean, can you imagine some really dolly young wren or whatever coming on board the submarine just as you're waving goodbye to your wife.

38:11Especially if you're a week into your tour and you've not visited that designated masturbatory area, you're going to be walking around with a loaded gun, Geoff. Yeah, they are. Yeah, you got well loaded. Yes, yeah. So when there was no women on deck back in the day and sailors would resurface, I mean, because there's rumours that sailors do a lot of fucking and drinking. Yes. So what's the reality there? You resurface, you've not seen daylight for weeks, or women for that matter. What happens when you resurface and you plot somewhere for a while? Well, this is the best bit. And you can use somebody else as an example so you don't incriminate yourself.

38:48Yes, absolutely. I was going to do that, yes. On a submarine, it's so cramped that when you go alongside anywhere, whether it be in Portsmouth, Devonport or abroad, you can't stay on board. You can't live on board a submarine when it's alongside. It's impossible. so what they do is they say right we're going to pull into somewhere like Bermuda or Bahamas somewhere like that you know one of these ordinary places that everyone goes to and what they do is they hire loads of rooms in hotels this is what they used to do I don't know whether they still do when I was doing the job so we go there and they'd hand you a load of money per day to go and feed yourself so you got a wedge of money and you got a hotel room thank you very much her majesty and off you'd go.

39:35That money got spent in brothels, didn't it? I couldn't possibly comment on that. And it's a big drinking culture? Massive, yeah, yeah. Is that on deck and on sure? No, no, when you're at sea, going back years, you used to get a small amount of alcohol allowed per day, three of those small cans of beer a day per man or something like that. But I think they've got rid of that entirely now, like smoking. I used to be able to get 100 cigarettes for seven pence. and I get allowed$600 a month at that cost. So it's like trying to kill yourself for free. Yeah. Well, the thing is, you see, when you leave the armed forces, if you stay long enough, you get a nice fat pension to live off.

40:19They don't want you hanging around too long picking up that, do they? No. Feed your fat and nicotine, loads of alcohol, make sure you don't live a long life so they can save on the pension. They've got to pay. Absolutely, yeah. And what about life back on land once you've spent so many years undersea? Is it weird to climatise, get used to? Is it too noisy? Is it too chaotic? Do you become institutionalised down there? Yes, you do. That is within the services. You can become institutionalised. One of the things that shocked me, because when I was in the Navy, we had everything was well thought through.

40:52Everything, you had procedures for everything. And I'm not saying that's wrong or right. It's just what it was. So people generally tend to think that if you go into Civvy Street, you're going to go into a factory or into the NHS or something like that, and you're going to have the same sort of thing, and it's completely different. And you're sort of a bit of a shock, and you're going, well, who's in charge? Who's actually running this show? And a lot of the time, you can't tell. You know, it seems all a bit loose and fancy-free. I think we've lost something there, definitely, on the civilian side.

41:29but that was a bit of a culture shock, that sort of thing. But things did, when you're away at sea, you're away. It may not be the same these days. You might have electronic availability to TV and radio and stuff. I don't know these days but in my day you didn't. So sometimes after a year, you'd hear a song that was raging while you were away and you've never heard it before. Yeah, never. And you say, oh, is that new? That's been out ages. When did that come out? You suddenly realise I was at sea during that. So I didn't even know about that fad. I didn't even know that was happening. So you've got compartmentalised history in your head.

42:19and it's not a bad thing, but it's just something to be aware of. A little bit like prison to a certain extent. I wouldn't know about that. No, I wasn't suggesting that you would, but time stands still. Yeah. If you're in jail or you're undersea in a boat, time stands still, but the outside world goes on. It does. People that spend a lot of time in jail, in men's jails, they can often form romantic relationships. Was there any sign of that undersea? In my day, because it was mainly, well, it was just all men at sea. If they did, it would be kept, they would be very, very, very careful. In fact, the Royal Navy police, because we used to have a proper Royal Navy police, their job was to hunt that sort of thing down and prosecute people and get them out of the forces.

43:11Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I mean, that was the thing. And we used to get lectures on it. We used to get lectures on what to look out for. That's interesting. We also used to get lectures. A guy used to come round with a, he had a police pass to allow him to do it. He had a big glass case with lots and lots and lots of different drugs. And he would come round and he would say, right, this is what these different drugs look like. If you see your sailors handling anything, any one of these, you've got to report it and show you. So were the Navy homophobic or did they not want men catching feelings for each other because it makes them vulnerable?

43:49Was the Navy homophobic? This is quite a good question because it was seen as a way of maintaining discipline, not to have that sort of thing going on, because it does cause problems with people who are homophobic and all the rest of it. And it was very heavily discouraged. I did know a couple of people, but I will just say that they kept it fully to themselves. And I just thought, I'm not going to... One of them was extremely good at their job for a start. You'd rather have them on your side than not. Yeah, I wonder if a telltale sign is the size of a sailor's forearms, what they're up to. Popeye, Popeye, yeah.

44:38Before I ask you about the state of the UK and immigration and the problem, and also how you feel about that for someone that's been so proud to live in the UK, fight for the UK, serve for Queen and country. I'd like to know, actually, if you'd be prepared to fight for the King now. But before we move to those little subjects, which I think the audience will be very interested in, you're a very modest man, and I know that you've achieved greatness in the Navy. So tell me some of the things that you've achieved, your greatest accolades. Being selected in the first place for this apprenticeship programme was a big deal because not everyone could get in.

45:17It's not something you didn't just walk up and say, I want to do that. You had to be specially selected. I had to go through a specific induction thing to make sure you had an engineering mind. And it was quite an intense test I had to take, four hours I think it was, sat in one of the recruitment offices. So that was the first thing, and I got in into a place called HMS Physgard. No longer exists down in the West Country near Torque Point. and I went through the training. And I've got to say that every person, however they join the armed forces, if they get through the next stage of training, they should feel proud of themselves because each stage is a challenge.

45:58The first four weeks, for example, was nothing to do with engineering. It was all about you're going to learn how to build a bivvy. You're going to learn how to shoot a gun. You're going to learn the basics of infantrymanship. Because at the end of the day, every single person in the armed forces is a potential infantryman, even the admirals, the generals, and the Air Force marshals. If push comes to shove, they're in the trench with a rifle pointing at the enemy if they have to. So they all have to know how to operate these things in rough and ready form. So that was the first bit. You know, it was lots of yomping around, you know, mud.

46:31And I joined in January. Mistake, you know, going out and about. And then basically I went through some engineering training for five years. And I ended up with, I actually won three out of the four prizes available at the end of that apprenticeship, which surprised lots of people. Everybody, in fact. I thought I cheated somehow, you know. But some of the things, you know, we had to learn electronics and using a lathe and all this sort of thing. I hope they still do all this stuff. It's brilliant. But in those days, we used to have to solder as well. So we had to, I built an oscilloscope. If you know what one of those is.

47:10That was going to be my next question. Yeah, an oscilloscope. What is an oscilloscope? It's a way of looking at waveforms of electrical circuits on a screen. And we had to build our own oscilloscope to pass the course. And so that was something, you know, yeah, I can do that. But nowadays, of course, everything's solid state, so you don't, you know, it's on a board. So you just slot boards into things to make them work. So you don't need to use your soldering iron so much anymore. but I was the dab hand with that. And I went to Dartmouth. Going to Dartmouth and getting the Queen's Commission, that's a big deal for me.

47:47It really was. It was the only thing that I put above all of this are my three daughters and my four grandchildren. They are it. And my friends and the friendships that I've got, the few that I have, strong. You know what I mean? It's strong. Those are the things that really we should value, I think, personally. loyalty to your friends and all this sort of thing. I totally agree. Yeah. Anyway, so getting to Dartmouth, that was a big thing. And I actually ended up getting a first-class academic pass out of Dartmouth, which, once again, my tutor looked at me with a strange look on his face, you know, but that was good.

48:29And I think I also came first academically out the whole year because they showed me a data computer printout, computer in 1980 it was, 1981. And my house, because Dartmouth at the time was run like a public school. So you sort of had housemaster type officers and tutor type officers and this sort of thing. And the housemaster type officer came up with this printout. He said, look, and there was myself and a guy that I got on with very well. He'd come second. And he was pointing, he said, look, you two in my house, first and second. You know, so that was quite nice. Did you say there's no prizes for second place?

49:13Is there anything you miss about life as a sailor? I've thought about this a lot and I chose the time to leave when it was right for me. I'd done everything I could. I wasn't going to get promoted further. I ended up as a lieutenant commander, which is about a major level. So I'd gone everywhere that I was going to go. The jobs would become more repetitive. As I say, the last one was handling the nuclear codes and directing the nuclear deterrent. on a day-to-day basis. And that for me, okay, I think I've reached the pinnacle of that. And I left and went and tried to find something else. It took me a long time to find something else that would even begin to match up.

49:53I tried the NHS for a while, but I found that that was not rewarding for me as a manager because that's all I could do. I wasn't a doctor or anything like that. I went into finance. I was very successful in finance, But the credit crunch game, 2008, wiped me out. So, of course, I sat there going, what am I going to do now? That's when Northern Rock went bust. That's right. Exactly. And I was trying to sell mortgages, investments, insurances, and all this sort of thing. Good luck with that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so I thought, had enough of that. So I started a website with my now business partner, Richard, and we just did sort of stuff on that.

50:36and we made a little tiny bit of money out of it, but it wasn't anything. And then one day we had Brexit and I was working towards Brexit and I was a member of UKIP and all the rest of it. I actually ended up as the deputy mayor of Shaftesbury. So I was voted in as a councillor, town councillor, became the deputy mayor of Shaftesbury as a UKIP member. Now, Shaftesbury is highly liberal Democrat. at. So the fact that I was selected to do that, and I remember the first day I went into the council after being elected, all the others were looking at me. They were circling around the table looking at this strange person who had been elected as a UKIP councillor in this area.

51:19And they were sort of, and within three weeks, they were coming up to me, talking to me, asking me questions. What do we need to do about this? And they said, you're not UKIP really, are you? You're just nothing like UKIPers. And I said, you obviously don't know any. I said, never judge a cover by the book you're given by the press, as we found out. Cool, haven't we just? Yeah, so never do that. Look at the guy. Look at the person involved. Every single person on this planet is flawed. And in my estimation, the more flaws that come out is because they've tried harder. They've done more. The more failures you've had is because you've tried more things.

51:58You get my general drift on this. anyway so I did that but um did they ask you for any tips on how to kill a shark no no no in fact I've told very few people about that story and most of this stuff let's just say that King Charles was the monarch yeah when you were serving for the country yeah would you have been comfortable fighting for him I would have fought for the country under any monarch anyone and I still will fight for the country under whatever monarch but I can understand why some people won't fight for the country because of their beliefs because of what they've been told about the country and about what they've been told about how the country got here a lot of people are misled about slavery for example the Royal Navy stamped out slavery it stamped it out and it cost sailors lives.

52:55It cost ships. It cost a massive national debt, which he only paid off 10 years ago. Try telling David Lammy that. I have got no time for that man at all. No time at all. But it doesn't matter who's it. It's the country. It's the country. It's the people who live here. And it's the general quiet majority, the silent majority, or as some people like to call it now, the silenced majority. Do you think King Charles is doing Great Britain proud at the moment? I suppose is another way to frame that question. No, he's not doing himself any favours. He's not doing us any favours. He is also the head of the Church of England.

53:30He's meant to be the defender of the faith. He's not defending the faith. He's off out kowtowing to the Roman Catholics and he's kowtowing to the certain demographic religion as well. And this is not the way to go ahead. It's far from uniting the country. It's just splitting it apart. Now, I will own up to the fact that the only reason the Church of England exists in reality is because a king, years and years and years and years ago, Henry VIII, decided he wanted to go and bonk about a bit. He wanted some more wives. And the only way to achieve it... He sounds like a sailor. Guess what? Guess what he founded?

54:12The Royal Navy. Oh, there you go. Yeah, so the Royal Navy dates back to him. and it's one of the reasons people when I joined up I didn't actually have to swear allegiance because the Royal Navy belonged to the monarch anyway that was the whole idea whereas the army and the air force because they were late comers to this defense thing but nowadays they are required there's a statute law that says that you have to swear allegiance to the crown. Before I ask the final set of questions i need to ascertain whether you think great britain at the moment is in a real bad place we are in a bad place and it's getting worse okay i'm a i'm a professor david betts believer on this one who who has said there is no political off-ramp he is he's he's an expert i don't know you've heard of him he's an expert in um civil strife And what does he mean by there's no political off-ramp?

55:16That we're not going to vote our way out of this. He is of the belief that at some stage or other, there has to be some form of civil conflict. And the more I look at it, because every single move either side makes now is met with more and more pushback. And it's going to come to a head. Look at what the police are going through at the moment. They thought it'd be easy. They just keep pushing the Brits away, keep dealing with the Brits in a harsh manner and in the end we'll all get to live together and work together and all the rest of it but the other side decided that they wanted more and there and this is cause at the end of the day I talk to a lot of people quietly friends and other people and they're telling me and I read it in the press just go in some of the press comment sections like a telegraph you wouldn't believe some of the stuff they're saying about this in there Things are going to come to a head.

56:12Professor Betts has said there is no midway path. One side has got to win. And there is no political way to meld the things together. They just thought it would happen. They just thought that let lots of people in and within a generation, they'll be just like us. They'll think like us. They'll have forgotten their religion. So you think we're heading for civil war? I think we are severely on that side of the scales. and people talking about stuff like remigration, which is one way of dealing with it, but you've got to then convince those to remigrate. And that's when things start getting a bit, you know, I mean, we heard it this weekend, didn't we?

56:56This is our area. Tower Hamlets. Tower Hamlets, yeah. A group of lefties were shoved aside by a group of Islamists. And he said, well, why are you doing that? we're on the same side. No, we're not. That was it. Yeah, you see that clip there? I mean, we're seeing the unholy alliance form again, just like they did in Iran 1979. Oh, yes. That clip that you just mentioned, that needs to be watched on repeat by the people on the left. So just to echo what you said there, the stand up to racism, which there is no racism to stand up to, The loony left, the virtue signaling communist morons. They're propping up the Islamists that are marching through the streets in a militant fashion.

57:39Very militant. Masked the lot. Yep. Balaclava'd up. And then when the leftist tells the Islamist that we're on the same side, pay attention. They've told you the Islamist told the leftist communist we're not on the same side. He pushed back and said, yes, we are. He reiterated, no, we're not. Pay attention to that. Yeah. And if you don't pay attention, that's why we're going where we're going. And the lefties have got to soon realise that actually, if they want to be on the right side of history, they've got to join with us, really. But I don't see that. They want an open borders, one world government type set up where the experts are in charge and tell you what to.

58:26Yeah, all of that absolutely. Straight out of the Marxist book. Correct. Yeah, that's what they want. And it's not what I want to see. So what my question was going to be, now that I know that we agree that the country is in terrible shape and we're heading for devastation, I was going to ask you, because I know that you pay close attention and I know that you don't just sit there on your armchair getting your information. You go out there and you seek it and you source it yourself, which is how we've got to know each other. So I wanted to know from your point of view, because I like getting everyone's perspective, how do we get in the mess that we're in?

58:57How does it make you feel? And what's the solution? Right. The way we got in this mess was we left people to get on with running our institutions. And they started by filling our education system with the lefties. And that just continued. And that is being fed through all the way through, right up to the top notch. If they now fill up our schools and our university lecturers spaces, which they do, and you can see it, then all the product that comes through all the training all those young kids goes through there and then they go into the workplace where the workplace has been taken over by DEI this is this is part of the problem and they hate the British way of life they these people hate Britain they want to bring it down so that's where it it sort of starts and and it just escalates from there and I get very angry about it because we got there by not paying attention.

59:55When people vote they have a choice don't they? Do I vote for the red or the blue rosette? And they're told don't think about it just vote for us to save the NHS. They both say it and that's as far as they think the thinking goes. People need to now start paying attention to these people and what they're really doing and saying and I think that's happening as social media expands and and people like us are on talking about this sort of stuff I think ordinary people are saying well actually we've been fed a bunch of horseshit all over these years these people are now beginning to talk sense to me and and I agree with what they're saying so we need to go you know with them and their thoughts and I've said this to so many people that the only reason that I exist on YouTube is because those absolute tossers in Westminster and in Whitehall aren't doing their jobs.

1:00:54If they did their jobs and looked after the country properly and the people in it, I would have nothing to talk about ever. Well, you're not on your own because it doesn't matter who I have on the show, no matter what the subject matter, the story, the life experience, the journey they've done, and this can be anything from true crime to porn stars to political activists to journalists to actors, reality stars. No matter what their story is, we will always find our way to the concern of the country, the fear of the nation, the destruction, the imploding of Great Britain, the way we've just allowed this to happen.

1:01:34and everyone's scratching their heads thinking, how did we get here? What's the solution? I know how it makes people feel. It makes them feel frightened and helpless and anxious. Back in the 1950s and 60s, I think most people would have looked at a government, looked at a politician and thought, I disagree with them. But in the final analysis, if they're in parliament, they're going to work for the country. They're going to work for the betterment of the country. And I think that's what most people feel when they're talking about politicians back then. We're now getting the idea, aren't we, that these politicians are not working for us in any shape or form.

1:02:09And at some stage, there became a disconnect and people's trust was misused by these people and by the establishment. And as time goes on, for some reason, everybody's now working far harder than they used to, far harder. Some people have got two, three jobs just to keep a roof over their head. yeah and they're they're too busy actually to do a lot of this they're too busy to even have children and bring up a family which is a big issue for for me because if without children we're dying out we're gonna die out and uh and part of the reason for for all these people coming in is to fill that gap and the world global population is going to start falling yes falling by the end of this century.

1:03:00It's going to start going down. The countries that normally have huge numbers of children are beginning not to because they're becoming more advanced. They don't need to have so many children. Back in the day, a woman in, say, Yemen would need to have eight children so that two could survive to keep her in her old age. You get the idea. Now that's reduced to four or five, and it's coming down. And it's the same across the world. And when we run out of babies, when we have too few babies, we have too few taxpayers and too few workers. Now, some people say AI is going to come to the rescue. I don't think it will.

1:03:35I think that's another red herring, but in certain ways. But children, we need children. Without children, and we were misled by the United Nations on that, there's a thing called the United Nations report from the year 2000, and it exists, and it is called replacement migration. It exists. It's a real thing. When you read it, it just says, well, if you're not having babies, you've got to import people to keep your economy going. What it doesn't say is actually you could have more children. You've got to change your national makeup to have more children, to have family-friendly policies, to have children.

1:04:13And that never seems to be mentioned. All it is is you've got a falling birth rate, import people. And the more people you import, It's a false boost to GDP because the more people you have, the more people you've got to feed, that boosts GDP. It's all a scam. Yeah, we need to procreate more. We need more sailors in the UK with that Randy mindset. With that mindset, absolutely. As Ben Habib said, as I had a chat with him, and he said, bonking for Britain is required. Yeah, what a great quote. I'm going to put Jeff's links to his YouTube and his X channel in the description here, so please go and give him a follow.

1:04:49And his work's great on YouTube. very unique and like and subscribe to this channel so I can keep bringing you guests like Jeff because the mainstream would never platform him because he speaks far too much truth and before we wrap this up is there anything that you'd like to end this conversation on whatever you want to say a message to people that subscribe to me or just anybody um the big message is that listen to people like Liam listen to people like me listen to people like uh Maya 2C listen to people like Richard Inman. Listen to them all. Listen to everybody. Paul Thorpe. If you don't, you're not going to get the full picture and you will from them.

1:05:25You'll get different aspects of a completely new way of looking at things. This social media is massive, a massive boon as long as it's used in the right way. The mainstream press is misleading you every single day and you need to, I say, wake up. Just seek out alternatives. Don't just say the BBC is right all the time. Because it isn't. If I could throttle anybody over the reporting of Gaza, it would be the BBC. Tommy has done a better job in a few days than the rest of the media put together. I've listened to a couple of his things he said. And do you know something? I go, I've done a lot of research.

1:06:04I've never been there. I've done a lot of research on Israel. And I say I agree with everything that Tommy says, because as far as I'm concerned, he's talking to people on the ground who I've listened to. Yeah, he's talking the truth about this. The mainstream press is letting us down. So Tommy as well, follow him. It's funny you say that. I've just come back from Israel. So I spent seven days there. I spoke to as many people as humanly possible. I've got 800 metres away from Gaza. I wanted to know the truth because all I've seen is people commentate on the conflict and none of them have been there.

1:06:38And I've not spoke out about it because it's above my pay grade. I wanted to go there. I wanted to learn. So I went out there. I wasn't paid to go out there, by the way. No shekels. No shekels. No shekels. All these conspiracy theorists. But yeah, it was an eye-opener. And that's a conversation for another day because I am going to touch base on my trip to Israel because it blew my mind. And what I will say is, as a bit of a cliffhanger, I was privy to a 44-minute video that was taken from Hamas body cam footage, first responders, the CCTV before it got dismantled, and people's iPhones that were at the Kibbutz and the Nova Festival, I saw more torturing and slaughtering than I care to imagine, and I never want to see it again.

1:07:28And our government officials... Now, I was told in this room where I was watching this video that David Lammy has been in the same room and he's watched it, and still nothing changes. Every time they're slaughtering innocent people, they're screaming Allah Akbar, without foul. Yeah. And I've never seen anything so gruesome. And if people are naive enough to think that there's not a percentage of that mindset in the UK now, 40 ,000 of them on the terror watch list, then there's no saving them. And people need to understand the difference between an Islamist and a Muslim. Because I've got Muslim friends that I went to school with that go out, drink beer, sniff gear, have sex with Westerners.

1:08:08That's the reality of it. And then when they're in my DMs or my WhatsApp saying, you know, you've got a problem with Muslims, I'm like, are you here to spread the caliphate? Do you think it's okay to have sex with a teenage girl that's just had her first period? Do you want to eradicate the West? No, no, no. Well, I haven't got a problem with you. You're a moderate Muslim, but I'll tell you what they said in Israel when I kept saying to them, what's the solution for peace over here? Because 20 % of Israel is Muslim. Yes, yes. And they coexist quite peacefully because there's national pride. And Israel will say, we do not fuck around here.

1:08:43It's our culture first, and they accept that. And every time I kept asking somebody over there, what's the solution? Every time without fail, they said the solution is for the moderates to speak up against the radicals. So anybody that tunes into this channel that thinks Muslims are getting bashed week in, week out, because at the moment everyone wants to talk about it, it's Islamists we have the issue with. I'm well aware that there's peaceful Muslims, and they just treat the Koran like a buffet and take the bits that suits. But really, we need you to stand up and push back against the radicals or we're done.

1:09:19So on that note, I'm not a religious man, but come back from Israel. I feel like I better pray for a better, brighter future. And as for you, I think you're a lovely human being, a wonderful man. And I wish you nothing but the best. And I look forward to when you come back on. Yeah, definitely. And thank you very much for this opportunity. It's been really great. Nice to chat with you. Yes, darling. Good health, sir. Cheers, Jeff. Cheers.

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