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27:17I've spent a long time sticking to my guns and not swaying with any narratives which are going to get me cheap clicks and just make me look like a political commentator. You know, I've stuck with digital IDs for a long time. I've stuck with COVID for a long time and calling that out. I've stuck with the experimental drugs. I've stuck with net zero and man-made climate change being the scam. These are all things I've been very, and more recently, I've been much more outspoken about migration because I just got to a point where I was like, I've got to speak on this. It's just gone too far. So these are the topics that I cover.

27:47Also traditional kind of like conservative. And then people might not like me saying this, but I am a liberal. And I think this word's been hijacked. I am a liberal. I'm a traditional liberal. That word's been transformed. But I believe that the state should be distanced massively away from the individual. So I believe in conservative principles in the sense that I want a family unit. I believe that men and women have their own roles within the family. I believe in masculine and female dynamics. That's something very important to me. So there's a real array of different things I cover. But ultimately, what it comes down to is traditional liberal principles, believing that the state should be distanced from the public, and then socially conservative principles, looking at the family unit, the importance of Christianity, pushing back against things like abortion and things like that as well.

28:35So it's a real bit of a soup, but ultimately I'm someone that wants freedom. And I never turn around and say, I'm 100 % right because we're in this culture. We see it on both sides. I'm right. You're wrong. Listen to me. No, let's have a conversation. Just like you did. I admire what you did going to an anti-racism demonstration and saying, well, let's have a conversation then. But they don't want to have a conversation. And I think the way we fix this is by having conversations like we're having now, having debates, having open dialects and thrashing ideas out and having the forgiveness to realize where you've made a mistake, having the humility to change your mind.

29:13And if we did that, lots of the things that we've seen over the past few years, like lockdowns, like all the climate change nonsense, it would all come out in the wash anyway. Because with proper, open, honest discussion and no shadow banning and having free speech everywhere, I'm a free speech absolutist. We wouldn't be dealing with any of these problems anyway, because the right experts would come forward and just have a conversation like, well, that's obviously nonsense. So, yeah, so I was a bit long-winded to basically say I'm a freedom campaigner and I want to get back to our roots of what it is to be British as well and have those traditional values.

29:47I picked up on the word debate and I thought I'm going to go back to that because at this stage, if people don't know, I'm going to let them know, you're 20 years of age and you've got a very advanced brain and you've got a great 30 ,000-foot view and perspective of what's going on in the country and the world. and nothing but admiration from me. Appreciate that. And I know that you've been to university, which I believe are indoctrination camps. Only for three weeks. Ah, okay. Well, this would be a short answer. But how did you go to university? Because as far as I can see, they're indoctrinating young men and women to become socialists and you're the polar opposite.

30:28So how did that work for you? Oh, it was great fun. Yeah, and I loved it. No, so basically I went to, so I went to all the COVID shenanigans at school and a little bit and then I went to college and I studied photography and and I I had a little bit of the COVID stuff there a little bit of all this pronoun nonsense which I had to push back on you know we had like lessons on conspiracy theories and it's like they'd line up all the conspiracy theories they'd be like the earth's flat the rural family are lizards and then lockdowns are a bad idea and then they'd be like trying to treat them as if they're all equal theories in terms of their rationale and I'm making me to be a moron and I'd have to kind of push back against that and had a bit of that college, but it wasn't as bad.

31:09When I left college, I had to make a decision. I was like, am I going to continue this fight that I've been doing since I was 14 when lockdown hit? Am I going to keep pushing back against all of this? Or am I going to go and do this thing called live and be young, go to uni, get an education? Let's just do that. So I got into a good uni. I was, you know, I worked very hard to get in. London College of Communications used to be London College of Printing and Elephant Castle. if you want to do photography if you want to do kind of like creative arts that is like the Oxford of of arts-based unis it's great so it was great it was great I got in day one I walk in okay here's your pronoun badge I was like well I don't want a pronoun badge now bear in mind because it was like COVID days before that I wasn't able to view the uni so I didn't have any like proper insight into it either so so I turn around and I'm like I don't want a pronoun badge and then she says to me, so funny, I'll never forget this, when she says, well, we do have he, him pronoun badges.

32:03I just looked at her and I was like, so you've worked it out then. You managed to figure out, I didn't need a badge then for you to work out what I am. So then I go in and then they give us a piece of paper and these are like the rules. This is pretty standard stuff, be nice to each other. The fact that at 18 you need to be told to be nice to each other is a bit crazy, but we'll let it slide. Fine. Get lower down. It's like, check your privilege. Okay, that's interesting. What does that mean? It's like, if you're white, you could present an unconscious hierarchy towards somebody who is black or mixed race.

32:40Therefore, you need to check that. You need to understand and self-identify yourself as somebody who has privilege because of your skin color, because it could upset someone who's black or mixed race if you don't do that. I'm like, this is just meant, I mean, that's just racism in itself. not to mention divisive and causing a problem out of nothing. Then it says check people's pronouns. Then it says don't be ableist, sexist, misogynistic. I'm like all of these things. All right, I believe that men should provide and by all means, if we want to get a job, fine. But ultimately in my personal life, I believe that men, I'll provide for my wife and I expect my wife to homeschool my children and raise my children.

33:18And I don't think that's misogynistic. They would dub that as I hate women, which is just ludicrous. so first we've got how subjective it is so I kind of raise my eyebrows and I'm like this is mental and then a week passes they're asking me to do gender study essays whilst I'm on a photography course critical race theory essays whilst I'm on a photography course which is just mental and then I get to a JK Rowling poster in the tube and this is when I first go on social media and someone has stuck a gay pride flag over a JK Rowling Harry Potter type poster and I rip it off and I post it I'm sick of this And after that, I got death threats.

33:56I walked into kind of university and it was like I stank of shit. Everyone would just move away from me. This is all because I ripped off a sticker, right? And then after that, I go back to where I live, which is like the halls of residence. And I've got people literally waiting outside of my student accommodation, waiting for me to leave so they can basically ambush me and get into fights with me, calling me a Nazi, calling me a racist. basically all because i took off a gay pride sticker don't believe that there are multiple gender i don't believe in gender there are two sexes and then if you think anything else you're mentally ill fact fact and i get death threats i get forced out of uni i didn't get kicked out i went to my lecturers and i said you know what i don't think i'm getting on very well here they're like oh no worries i'm like hang on what the conversation lasted about five minutes of me basically saying, I think I'm going to leave.

34:49They did not care. So I just left. And then after that, I still had to stay at my horse of residence for another two months because I'd paid up for three months, which was the first term of uni. And they're all, I'll give you a bit of a cliche, all vegan, all web pronoun badges, all of them. Like I put steak in the fridge and I'm getting messages in from the group chat from our communal kitchen, people that are using the communal kitchen, like whose steak is in the fridge? I'm a vegan. And this is just mental what I'm dealing with. And then like, because I said, I don't believe lockdown was a good idea.

35:19They managed to jump to the conclusion that I'm a far right Nazi. I mean, this is just mental. You get this mentality within education, you know, like this, this kind of follow the herd kind of stuff, but this is to the extreme. And then I was just getting into fights. And then eventually I left and then I sofa surfed. I then got a job as a chef working 70, 80 hours a week, just back to back, back to back saving money saving money saving money yes my parents said come home but I said I'm not doing it I chose this path I opted to stand on my principles and I will and I just kept working working working started to do a bit social media stuff that started to evolve and then I managed to get a flat then I lost the flat and then I went back into the same situation again um and managed to start my own business and also do my own social media stuff and now I'm here So it's been quite a journey kind of post-uni because it really started there where I entered adulthood.

36:16And I just decided I'm not having it. I'm going to fight back. I made the decision to opt for a normal life. I say, God didn't give me that option. He said, no, you've got a job to do here. You have a responsibility to fight for your country, to fight for your generation, to fight for truth. And that's what you've got to do. So I went ahead and did it. And that's why I'm here. Monday on NBC. U.S. Marshall. All new line of fire. The thrilling new crime drama. The world sees us as heroes, but they don't know what the job really costs. One family of federal agents. It's one thing to put yourself in danger.

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37:30Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. It's very, very frightening to think that our future generations are being mollycoddled, force-fed nonsense, and being sort of programmed into becoming extremely weak, fragile, and unforgiving. Because if we ever get into a conflict situation, which we probably will the way we're going, we've got to rely on this lot to fight for our country. I wouldn't rely on them. And our freedoms. Well, I don't rely on them. And that university lost a great guy when they lost you because you could have influenced a few other people to say, this really is stinking thinking.

38:14Like, get your head out your ass. Stop listening to that wanker with no life experience and just look around you. Look what we're being taught. Look where it will lead. Look at China. Look at this country. Look at that situation. Look at Iran in 1979. Is this what we want our future to be? Like, let's all get some testosterone in us. you've just used a word which I was about to use testosterone masculinity we need strong men without strong men there's no threat of a revolution I'm not advocating for a revolution but there should always be a threat of one in the sense that the government should always know that if they push things too far there are millions and millions of fighting age English males may I add or British males that are willing to fight back against authoritarianism we have it in our water we have it in our water estrogen, all sorts of hormones that get put into our tap water.

39:09We have it in our food. Again, lots of estrogen, not to mention the social conditioning at school. Men taught that it's okay to have feelings. And it's like, well, yeah, it's okay to have feelings. But when it comes down to it, you've got a job to do, mate. And if I'd ruled my life through feelings, right now I would be at university wearing a pronoun badge. and I would have gone, no, I'm just going to keep my head down. No, we're not doing it. And the problem we have now is men just want to do that. They want to sit on their Xbox. They want to laze around. They're very happy in a nine-to-five sort of drone job.

39:49They've got no aspiration. And half of this I blame them, and half of this I also blame the conditioning from the education system, as you said, indoctrination system. It is there to indoctrinate young people, regardless of what anyone's – I mean, I have watched men just be turned into complete useless simps through the education system. And it takes an awful lot to fight back. And I do impress upon people that get frustrated with my generation. People say to me, it's like, do young people agree with you? Yeah. Speak to most young people. They think what I say is, especially young men, I'd say they would agree with me.

40:23That's not the hard bit. The hard bit is getting them to act on that. That's the difficult bit. And if you do act on it, well, what's going to happen is you're going to be isolated from everyone. You're going to go homeless at times. You're going to have to work 70, 80 hours a week. You're going to have mass isolation, potentially from your friends and family. You're going to go through all of these things just as a result of opting for basic truths and for freedom. So I do get that the consequences to putting your head above the parapet are massive, but there's something within me which just could not allow myself to toe the line.

40:56I just can't do it. I just can't do it. It's not in my mindset. Yeah, good. And I can tell you now, as a man, a couple of decades older, that you would never, ever want to look back and think I was guilty of sucking the dick of political correctness, doing absolutely nothing, and essentially putting the country and your own family in grave danger. You'll look back with great pride. And a lot of people that you went to university with that didn't have the courage that you have, they'll look up to you in years to come and think, I wish I followed that man. You say something that's quite important, actually.

41:27I mean, I've kind of had that already, not from uni students. A lot of them still hate me. When I was at school and I pushed back, I never wore a mask and I never did any of the things. And I didn't just not wear a mask. I put my hand up and said, this is why I'm not wearing a mask and I'm going to tell you. And you should listen to what I'm saying because I have a point here. And through that, I got so much hate. And I think I've had at this point, can't say for sure, maybe a dozen, maybe 15 messages from people saying, you were right, I'm sorry. And that level of humility to get from my generation is pretty unbelievable.

41:59So there is hope, as I say, and I do have optimism. Where are we without hope and optimism? I mean, we have to have it. Yeah, we've got to have it. And as much as things get really depressing and really hard, like when the digital ID announcement came out, I didn't know whether to jump for joy in the sense that I have this weird paradox within me, which is in the one sense, I'm like, oh, no. In the other sense, I'm like, finally, it's happened. so we can galvanize a proper pushback from the public. But another part of me, you know, wanted to just crawl up into a ball and just like be like, do you know what?

42:32Don't get me wrong. Every day I'm like, should I just like pack up, go and get a place out of London? I don't have to live in London. I live there so I have access to the city and I'm there whenever, when duty calls. And I could go and get cheap rent somewhere. I could get a job which, you know, I still enjoy. I could go and pursue a photography again and I could go and get an easy life and just move on and not have to deal with the amount that I deal with in a week. I mean, I'm working 100-hour weeks at this point every single day. I am planning. I am building a structure to try and building my own thing in some respect.

43:08Whatever I can do, I just can't sleep at night knowing that I'm not doing enough and I get restless. I can't relax because I'm kind of like, my country is being invaded. My country is being enslaved. The public aren't awake. Why am I not doing my bit? Do I feel that when I go out and go on the tubes and I speak to people that I'm suddenly going to wake up an entire tube carriage and win everyone over? No, but at least I can go to bed at night knowing that when my child looks at me and my country is in despair, which, God, I hope it's not, but I can look at my son and go, I did try. See, that definitely is activism.

43:45There's two things I want to ask because all the things you said are being emboldened by what I would say Western media. And so I was curious as to your perception on what the role of Western media is, now that you're an independent journalist stroke activist. Okay, it's interesting. I'm going to bring something up, which is very recent. Ofcom, I've heard, and I'd like, if anyone wants to check this, because this is just something that I've heard from somebody who I trust, so it's not like I've done my loads of research on this, but Ofcom are looking to regulate streamers on YouTube. Because obviously with streaming, you can't edit it.

44:20so so it's unfiltered and they're saying well you could you know this isn't right because that we've got no way of policing this now i'm a free speech absolutist some people say there's a line so recently with um you know death death to the idf you know that being chanted i actually think he has the right to say that you know because i think that we do are living in a culture where even people on our side are willing to censor people that they don't like and it's we've got this free speech for me and not for thee no no no I'm very happy to like you you went to have a conversation with people I I think that's going back to debate I think that's what we need I don't believe in censorship on any end I don't believe Palestine action should have been prescribed as a terrorist organization personally I believe that that re-qualifies um what what terrorism is you're saying Palestine action are comparable to like Hezbollah and like ISIS I just don't think that's reasonable and now you've got 60 year olds being arrested you know and 90 year olds being arrested and blind people being arrested for holding a placard it's just mental to me the reason that's relevant to your question the role the media has to play is to not it all media is bias this idea that we don't have by the bbc are not biased we obviously know is nonsense of course the bbc are biased they have a narrative they stick to it and again going back to lockdowns they they had no They wouldn't have anybody on who opposed lockdowns.

45:45That was just not going to happen. So obviously the BBC are biased. Defund the BBC and let them be biased. I don't have an issue with that. Rename it. But if the BBC wants to exist, I don't actually have a problem with that. What we need within journalism, what journalism has a responsibility to do, is host conversations from both sides. And a lot of it comes down to humility. people from from stand up to racism or hope not hate and these organizations will not talk to you and even if they are a journalist from that organization they're not going to talk to you and they're not going to converse with you the responsibility of a journalist is to be biased fine but at least have conversations and engage with people you disagree with and leave it up to the viewer and the public to digest that and make their own decisions and what we have with the BBC for example, ITV or Channel 4, anything mainstream is the censorship and suffocation of debates but they'll still host their narrative whatever that narrative may be and I would say debate, conversations and engage with the opposition because if we don't do that, what's the point?

46:51Let me ask you about your free speech absolutism because when someone says they're a free speech absolutist I always think, well I'm a free speech advocate but for me there's a certain line For example, calling for the death of all Jews or someone like Anjem Chowdhury standing in the streets of London, you know, encouraging people to slay the non-believer where you find them. See, for me, that's inciting violence and murder. And that's where my line is drawn. I think free speech, absolutely. So what you like, your opinion is fine. You know, I hate X, Y or Z. I despise this person for that reason.

47:30Cool. You're entitled to that. You shouldn't be getting in trouble with that. You shouldn't be getting arrested for that. If you're calling for the death and destruction of people and places, for me, that's where I draw the line. And I'm not a free speech absolutist. Have you got a line or does anything go? I think it's a big difference between myself, let's say, putting on Twitter or whatever, or X, you know, let's kill all the Jews, which, by the way, for the record, that will get clipped. Monty says kill all the Jews. I don't think that. But assuming I said that, I don't think that's, you know, you shouldn't be arrested for that.

48:07That's free speech. If I'm walking through the street and I've got, and I'm clearly a leader of an organization, you know, or you could even say a gang, right? And I'm openly anti-Semitic and against Jewish individuals. And I've got 12 guys behind me. And I direct my 12 guys to go and beat up a Jewish individual who's opposite me. that for me is the line because you're inciting direct violence you are ordering inciting and encouraging the attack on one specific individual you could either say a group of individuals if on the other hand i'm openly anti-semitic which i don't which i'm not of course and i go and i'm at a demonstration and i'm surrounded by a bunch of people who agree with me and i just openly say, you know, we and call for the death of Jewish individuals.

48:58That's not a direct, I am not responsible for other people's actions in that circumstance, because I believe in personal responsibility. And it's not, whilst I have influence, if we take away personal responsibility from people, and place our power in leaders, and individuals that can influence, then I think we're going down a slippery slope. So I know that's quite complicated explanation. But there is a very fine line and interesting nuance that I've made there and I feel that you know this this whole inciting violence thing people have their own minds and if you want to say death death to the IDF on stage whilst I don't agree with it and then somebody else goes and you know attacks the IDF right because of that hypothetically is he responsible for that should he have the right to say that well I think he should in the same way I feel I should have the right to say that and I do not want anyone to take that right away from me.

49:54I wouldn't say it, but I have that right. You cannot police what I say. But if, as I say, I'm in an intimate circumstance where I lead an attack of violence on somebody, that's completely different. What about this for a scenario then? Go on. We have two years continuously of week in, week out, pro-Palestine marches, and you've got chants from the river to the sea, death to all Jews being said loud and proud on repeat. And then eventually on the Jewish community's most holiest day of the year, an Islamist goes and slaughters innocent people mindlessly. Now, would that make you think, because of the free speech absolutist in me, and I've not objected to people chanting to the death of all Jews, that that could have possibly led to innocent people being murdered.

50:49Does that play with your conscience? It plays with my conscience, but I will not sacrifice that inalienable right. Of course it plays with my conscience and makes me go, well, I wouldn't be a part of that though. And I'm not going to give up my free speech, which I am responsible for protecting and managing because a bunch of individuals elsewhere are ruthless, nasty, vindictive and narcissistic. Why should I give up my right to free speech? Because I know that I will never incite violence and call for the death of anyone. So why should I give that up because of them? That's the point I would make.

51:33This horrific terrorist attack has happened. And we can have no doubt that there has possibly been influence or crossover with the mass Palestine demonstrations that we've seen and people supporting Hamas in the UK. I'm not going to doubt that. I'm not going to put it all down to that because again, he's got personal responsibility, but I actually want to, if you don't mind, just, just shed light on that a little bit. Um, because I put a post out just this morning before I came here and I, and I, and I said, Starmer and the Labour government are going to use this. This is what I think is going to happen.

52:05They're going to use this to bring in more surveillance, more digital IDs, because they're going to jump on it and be like, see, look what happens when you don't have a digital ID and we We don't know who people are. We can't check people. We can't verify their criminal records and everything. And I think this will be used to bring in more surveillance and more control again. Some people will say that that terrorist attack was actually orchestrated for that purpose. I'm not going to claim that. I want to make that clear. But I will say that at least it's going to be opportunised on. So you're very forthright in your beliefs, your actions, your attitude is solid.

52:37I mean, you're the most stoic 20-year-old I ever spoke. In fact, I don't speak to youngsters because I find them all sort of twisted to the left. And I think there's no real getting through to you because your teachers are bringing you up and your teachers are all left-wing indoctrinated. So it's like a, it's a melting pot for disaster. And I think, well, we've got nothing in common. The age gap is one thing, but also the mentality. You seem to have your head screwed on. You're a bit of a soldier, to be honest, because I've seen the work you do on the streets. You are a soldier. and being a soldier requires courage and you put yourself in positions that most won't, which also gets you in trouble that doesn't get other people in trouble.

53:19So what troubles have you faced? First of all, I want to say thank you for recognising Stoicism as a trait of mine because Marcus Aurelius and Stoicism and his book of Meditations, which I recommend anyone goes and reads. I'm not a huge reader, but Meditations is one which I have read and had a profound impact on me. you know, stoicism, acting as a man, you need to act outside of emotion, buckle your emotions down. That's not to say don't be emotional. You know, I'm not saying that. But at times you need to be a soldier and you need to put your emotions to one side and act out of logic and not utilitarianism, not a coldness, but out of love, actually, which is an emotion, and use that to underpin, as I say, logic and a forthright inner strength.

54:05Tough love. Tough love. I just wanted to say, you know, I wanted to note that and also say thank you for recognising that. So in terms of arrests. So, yeah, no, I went to London Pride. And actually, from people that agree with me on what I'm about to, you know, the statement that I made, they still disagree with me going. And I explain as to why and my comeback to that. But I went to London Pride 2025. They have a Pride march. I mean, they have Trans Pride, Queer Pride, Gay Pride. Then they have Everyone Pride. I went to the big one, the Everyone Pride. Everyone's involved. you know whippy um apart from me i'm not included apparently they didn't want me there so i turned up with a placard which said that the trans flag equals mental illness the world health organization in 2019 up until 2019 stated that it equals a mental disorder but of course with the whole woke tsunami they quickly scrubbed that out but if you dig deep enough you can find it i can even send you the link if you're curious like i've got you know the record showing where they say there is a mental disorder just google body dysphoria yes right um Um, and, but people want to argue with me on that.

55:09It's just mental. So I went to, to, but the fact that people want to argue with me on that is great. And that is why I went there to talk to people and people say, well, your side is antagonistic. And I'm like, well, it shouldn't be antagonistic because I'm just stating a biological fact here. So I turned up, I was there for about half an hour. I had one conversation with these girls who couldn't define what a woman was. And then I had an officer come over and demand I take the placard off. Um, to which I said, no. He said, why? I'm like, well, first of all, do you think if you're, I'm the kind of guy to come to a Pride demo with this placard, do you really think I'm going to take it off?

55:42He's like, well, I thought you would. I'm like, no. I said, let's go and have a conversation. I explained to him, no, I'm not going to take it off. I appreciate you coming to speak to me, but we do have two-tier justice in this country. And I'm getting the impression that the reason you're asking me to take the placard off is not because you're concerned about me, but you're concerned about them. Why are you concerned about them? I thought this was meant to be the inclusive, loving left or whatever you want to call them. that's what they preach but you're concerned about them however i walked away because with what i do you have to be conscious at times not to be too inflammatory and to you know play the game in the system a little bit and i withdrew got two streets away and 11 police no well no nine police officers plus two further ones that were already arresting me or so not arresting me questioning me before that come around the corner and say excuse me sir can i speak to you for one second.

56:31He puts his hand on my back and then he handcuffs me. So there was no procedure. He should have informed me of, had a conversation and informed me of why I was being arrested first. That's standard procedure. Didn't do that. Arrested me, detained me for nine hours at Charing Cross Police Station, released me on something called a pre-charge, which is to essentially say that we can't charge you at this time because we don't know how, because you can't charge me for something like that. You can try to, but it's ridiculous. But they were basically saying we don't have enough evidence at this time.

56:55We need to inquire further. But with a pre-charge, you can still have bail conditions. So I was told I can't enter the city of Westminster. I'm banned from the centre of my capital city, you know, that my forefathers defended and I'm not allowed to be in the centre of my capital city. And they told me that I have to live and sleep at my home address. So I can't go on holiday. I can't stay at a friend's. And if I break those bail conditions, I run the risk of being detained until my hearing. I mean, this is just mental. And I'm very fortunate because I got support from some great people. Free speech union.

57:29I also work with an organization called Together. Alan Miller is a guy who runs that again, massively came out against lockdown, lockdowns, vaccine mandates. And I work with them and he's very well connected amongst kind of like Toby Young free speech union. And they came out and supported me and I got a solicitor straight away. Not many people are as fortunate as me. I'm very grateful for that. And, yeah, I mean, I was arrested for something called a public disorder, public order act. And then I was detained for nine hours, given these nonsense conditions. I then went back home, spent about a month or so battling this with my solicitor.

58:07They then said, OK, well, it's funny. They said, well, move the bail condition in terms of where you're allowed in London to, you can basically enter Westminster, but you can't go to Soho or Mayfair. I was like, what's special about Soho and Mayfair? And they're like, it's frequented by the trans and gay community. So they occupy a piece of London now. I mean, this is just ludicrous. Fortunately, we're in a position now, all of this has been lifted. I now can go into Westminster. But, you know, it was always going to be lifted. The process is the punishment. But to think I can go to a demonstration, not even say something that's wrong.

58:44You know, it is a mental illness. Then walk away. Then be arrested by nine coppers, considering the fact that you can't even get a police officer to attend your house after a burglary these days. They're more interested in DEI and policing our speech. And then I'm detained, banned from the centre of my capital city, told I can't live or sleep anywhere but my home address, all for wearing a placard and stating a fact. That is England today. It's mental. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

59:20And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. I'm Glenn Washington, host of Snap Judgment from KQED. Every week, Snap drops you inside someone's biggest decision. The kind of decision you can only make once. With everything on the line, what do you believe? What do you want? And what would you risk to get it? Find out. Tap to listen now to Snap Judgment from KQED on Spotify. Yeah, it doesn't get more mental than the current state of affairs and the current time that we're in.

1:00:13And if somebody had told me 15 years ago that in 2025, you'll be going to jail for sending tweets and you won't be able to criticise transgenderism and kids will be taught about trans at school and children will be taking puberty blockers, I would have just would have ignored. I would have put that person in the mental health bracket themselves. You're clearly off your head. You go over there and I'm going to go over here and talk to some normal people. Now, I know that you've already discussed your arrest on another podcast, but it's an outrageous fucking story. But what I did say to Andrew was, after looking into your work, I said, Montgomery is either going to end up in prison or parliament.

1:00:51So I suppose two questions at once is, do you think you'll end up in prison? Are you prepared to go to prison for your beliefs? And have you got any political ambitions? Okay, great question. Am I prepared to go to prison? Let's say, let's take the BRIT card and the digital ID. absolutely our forefathers fought off the nazis and protected our country on the battlefield and i will continue that legacy and just like my great-grandfather did in world war one i will continue i will continue that and if that means i go to prison i believe in time i would be let out anyway you know i believe there'll be a revolution in this country if we got to the point where people are being put in prison for not having a digital id i'm absolutely prepared for that and any other lines which I refuse to cross.

1:01:38You know, I've put myself in this situation and I've had to make a decision actually before, you know, during that uni experience that I described earlier, where I essentially am choosing to put myself in the firing line and someone's got to do it. And I won't lie after Charlie Kirk's assassination, not that I'm anywhere near as great as Charlie Kirk, it did start making me think a little bit and looking over my shoulder a bit and kind of like, ooh, this is, you know, I really am making, I am really putting myself, you know, in the lion's den if I keep going at where I'm going. And especially I do it in a very unfiltered manner.

1:02:18I'm not really one to beat around the bush. I say it how it is, and I will expand on the greater agendas and try not to be too conspiratorial, spiritual, but still I'm willing to investigate greater plans, greater agendas. And that's very, very, you know, concerning for people who want those agendas hidden. Have I got political ambitions? So I thought a lot about this. And when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, he had a profound impact on me. Charlie Kirk possibly could have been the future president, but it was never his ambition to be the future president. It was Charlie Kirk's ambition to love America, support young people and engage in debate.

1:02:56And I feel like that's more me than it is to be an MP. As it stands, I don't think reform would have me. Look, if reform got in contact with me and were willing to host all of my opinions openly and give me the freedom to say all the things that I've said up to this point and more, then I would consider it. But I just don't think that's going to happen, is it? And I think that I would rather be on the outside fighting for my freedom looking in than on the inside looking out because I actually think there's more freedom and autonomy there and that is why I am building that I'm I'm I engage with young people um I have a network of young people uh to to to support me in that and I'm building that infrastructure and I want to be in a position you know over the next five years of like I referenced earlier fighting for traditional liberal principles raising awareness if that means I risk going to prison, then fine.

1:03:47I will fight for freedom and I will do it on the outside and I will make a success of it. It's absolutely my ambition to never surrender, never kneel and be responsible for waking up as many young people as I can to what I believe to not be right wing or left wing, to just be reality, truth and a conscious action and fight back against authoritarianism and for freedom. Okay. Are you prepared to take a bullet to the head for your beliefs? Mum and dad, I'm sorry to say this, but yes, I am. There's nothing that will stop me. And I've said that openly before. I am prepared to take a bullet and put my life on the line to defend our inalienable rights and push back against authoritarianism and tyranny.

1:04:33I have to. If we don't, what's the point? Why? I will never let my country be taken over, invaded, stripped of our freedom, stripped of our natural God-given rights. I will not let it happen. So yes, I am. You're a very, very smart man. I'll say it again for the record. I've got nothing but admiration for you. And I'm very impressed with your brain. I've learned a lot from you and I'm twice your age. Appreciate that. Thank you. You could go and be an architect. You could go and be a property developer. You could become a multimillionaire in the next five years. I don't just believe that. I know that.

1:05:08What's driving you to do what you're doing? Why are you not steering towards a very safe, financially secure future? What's your main driving force? Why are you putting your life and liberty on the line? I've got two answers. I'm going to tell you before I became a Christian and after. Because I was still doing this before I became a Christian and started believing in God. And I've already mentioned it already. At that point in time, when I was fighting back against lockdowns and all of that, my perspective was simple. I'm fighting for my country and I can't look my child in the face and say, you know, that I, you know, my future child in the face and say, you know, I didn't, I didn't try.

1:05:47And I just let the country go to ruin. We're men. We have a responsibility to defend our country. That's part one. Now I feel like we all have a responsibility and duty. And me personally, as I say, I'm a Christian and I believe that God gives his toughest work to his toughest soldiers. I believe you're one of those individuals as well and there's many other individuals out there which have a calling and a responsibility to bear the difficult brunt of fighting against evil and I say that because I don't know about you but you can call them left-wing or I don't call them left-wing all the time you know I just call them evil when I look into the eyes of some of these individuals I don't see someone with a political opinion I see someone who consciously hates people, who has evil inside them.

1:06:34And I think that this is a spiritual battle. I don't think we're just fighting to, you know, get, you know, Nigel Farage in and turn the economy around. On the surface, there may be some good points in that and some truths, but I'm fighting against evil. I have a calling and a responsibility to uphold freedom in this country and fight for the godly principles of inalienable rights, God-given rights, the right to free speech, the right to travel where we want. These are things which I will never give up. And I couldn't look God in the face and say that I didn't do that. I just can't do it. I mentioned earlier, I can't sleep at night.

1:07:14I know that the amount of time and energy I've put into this, which I'm not a grifter. I don't have huge amounts of money. People think that maybe I'm quite well. It's not the case. I do okay, but ultimately I could be in a position of a lot more money. I don't have to do this. People don't realize the level of work that goes into this, the sacrifice that goes into this. Before I got any kind of financial support for the work that I do, I was doing this for free for three years. And now I'm in a position where, as I say, I work with other organizations as well. And we're members funded. I'm members funded.

1:07:50And I'm so grateful for that because that enables me to do my work full time. But if the money was taken away from me tomorrow and a cashless society was brought in and a social credit system was brought in and everything was shadow banned and my social medias were all deleted and I was taken off X and Twitter and there was nothing, you'd find me outside 10 Downing Street with a megaphone saying, we say no and I will continue to fight. This is not about fame. This is not about ego. This is not about some narcissistic financial obsession that I want to be this big name. It's about bearing responsibility, being a man, and regardless of the circumstances, you will find me on the streets fighting.

1:08:28That's my answer. Also, a lot of young men have turned to Islam. It's become very, very trendy, although there is a bit of a Christian resurgence. But as a young Christian man, what's your opinion on Islam? I think it's appalling. I think that we do have a massive attempt at Islamification in the UK. I filmed a video not long ago at the beach, and I've had a, this is probably the most controversial video I filmed. I didn't think it would be, but it was. I went to the beach and I have not been to the beach for a very, very long time. And I went to go see a friend in Portsmouth, which is quite a traditional kind of, I think they've got the largest support base for UKIP, I think in Portsmouth.

1:09:08They're very traditionally like a lot of kind of good right-wing locals, whatever you want to say. And I was on the beach, I was like looking in the sea. And there must've been about a dozen, if not more, women and young girls, I would say just hit puberty in full burqas or hijabs in the sea. And I just remember, I'm like, I've got my fish and chips. And I'm at the British seaside or English seaside. I'm about to go get an ice cream. And I want to go to the pub later. And I want to go and get some pork scratchings and have a chat about, you know, English politics. But what I can see is a bunch of women being dictated to by men on the beach who are playing football or something, that they are only allowed to go in the sea fully clothed and covered up.

1:09:57And what people don't understand is, is when I put this video out, they're like, first of all, you shouldn't be filming women and children in the sea. I'm like, okay, guys, I wouldn't have filmed them unless their faces aren't in it because they're covered up. So you can't see anybody there. It was controversial. People didn't like it. But what they don't realize is what Islam is, is very equal to what we're experiencing now within our government in the sense of it's so authoritarian. Islam is very authoritarian, and there is an obsession to convert people. Christians don't operate like that. Christians will have a conversation and put their beliefs forward, but there's a culture of forgiveness, love, and debate within Christianity.

1:10:41Within Islam, it's very abusive, one-sided, slay the non-believers and I just don't agree with it and I don't think it mixes with our culture at all even if you're not a Christian even if you don't believe in God nothing like that you must believe at least that Christ is quite a good figure to look towards even to govern a country to be the backbone of our ideas and love thy neighbor and forgiveness but to answer your question regarding Islam yes I have loads of problems with it do I think there's an obsession with Islam in the UK. Absolutely. If you go to Speaker's Corner now, it's nothing like it used to be.

1:11:16You used to go to Speaker's Corner and you'd have all sorts of debates, maybe vegans, people who are carnivore, climate change debate. Now it is a shouting match. You've just got people shouting Allahu Akbar en masse, burning the Bible, and then Christians shouting back. And it's just a shouting match. There's no conversation. There's no debates. And there is a conscious attempt to bring Islam into the UK we have massive issues with Pakistani rape gangs. I grew up just outside of Peterborough. The way my dad actually described where I grew up is a cultural desert in the sense that there was no culture, no English culture.

1:11:51It was a mishmatch of no identity and just people who are, and now I look back on it and I see that a lot of this was involved with Islam, who are, who don't identify with English culture at all, no integration, no interest in it, and feel that they have some kind of responsibility and duty to infect our Christian land with their ideologies. And I don't have any interest in it. I don't want it. I will just add on though, people that are calling for the ban of the burqa or people that are calling for the ban of Islam as well. I also don't believe that's correct. I believe we should work on our Christian principles in this country and just focus on that.

1:12:33And if we had the attitude that Islam has at times in terms of how committed they are to their faith, then we wouldn't be dealing with this. Plus, also stop the boats, stop mass migration, close the borders and deport all the illegal migrants. That would also kind of help because I'm sure that there's a massive side dish of Islam that comes with that, let's be real. But I also believe that people should have the right to practice whatever religion they want, but we should be focusing on Christian principles in this country and organically and naturally, we won't see the effect of Islam in the UK.

1:13:03I'm looking forward to sitting down with you again in maybe a year or two's time just to see what's changed in your mind. Because the more we look, the more we learn, the more we learn, the more we change our opinions. And I'm always changing mine. If I learn something new and it changes the perception of what I had in my mind, say, 6, 12, 80 months previous, I can then change my opinion. And that's not flip-flopping. That's just being presented with new evidence. So I'm looking forward to that. Whilst I'm looking at the audience, I'm going to put all of Montgomery's social media links in the description, starting from his YouTube to his ex and any others that he requests.

1:13:45So please go and give him a follow and support his work because it takes balls to steal what he does. And he's a 20-year-old man. Most 20-year-olds are sitting at home wanking into a sock playing their PlayStation. Montgomery's out there trying to change the world, and I applaud that. And whilst I'm on the subject of talking to the audience direct, like and subscribe to this channel. It doesn't cost you a penny. And we can keep having conversations like this because I can guarantee the BBC won't have someone like Montgomery on. But the final question for you is, who is Montgomery Toms? Wow. How do you answer that without sounding not arrogant?

1:14:22Without polishing your own halo. Yeah. If I was to say it in a way, it's like, you know, if I die tomorrow, what would I like to be remembered for? hard work, stoicism, forgiveness, love, cockiness, an appropriate amount of arrogance at times, because you need arrogance in the kind of work that we do at times, all right? You need it to go and do the level of kind of street work that I do. You have to have a kind of inflated self-confidence. But also knowing that I am the most principled man I think most people will meet. I refuse to bow. I refuse to compromise on certain key things, as we've discussed in this podcast.

1:15:06So I'd say Montgomery Toms is a man who will never quit, who will always fight for freedom, will always forgive, will always aim to protect his country, his family, his loved ones, and always, always fight for freedom. Well, I wish you nothing but the best of luck. and my final message to you will be, for fuck's sake, stay safe. I will. Thank you. It's been a pleasure. That's amazing. Get off, brother. Thanks so much.

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