I Created a MONSTER: “People Actually Want To Hurt Me” | Big Stacks

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0:38It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. The whole of the Travord community, they fucking hate me. Has he got a boxing background? He's in camp with the Furies. He's trying to bang me from the side, do you know what I mean? And then ran off. Is he a fighter? For this fight, I ain't got a trainer as hard. Jordan's not a scrapper.

1:11He's more like a stabber or whatever. He's known for that. But we're in a ring. He's a loose cannon. Well, I'll deal with it if he wants to bathe, whatever. I don't roll firm-handed. I'm on my ones. Everyone just wants to beat big stacks. Let's have an arm wrestle. Let's punch a punch machine. Like, most of the time, I win. I did see you aggressively fucking a ladyboy. How do you respond to that? I've done it for the money. Totally regret it. Are you straight gay or bi? I'm getting angry, do you know what I'm saying? You're mugging me off. See, when I was 22, I was so wild. I was selling crap.

1:35I was getting a gang beef. I was doing the most. I'm doing well for myself. Changing my life around. They're probably not, do you know what I mean? So a lot of people probably dislike that. You're a div. You're a sausage. What? I didn't know people was that dumb to actually believe I thought I was the hardest man. It's mainly the travels I got beefy. What kind of threats do you get in your inboxes? It's dangerous. I have to be on guard all the time. Have you made that many enemies?

1:59Big Stacks, welcome back. Hello, my brother. Mate, I've never had someone back so soon after a part one. But because I got to know the man behind the character and I'm seeing you getting fucking punched in the face. I mean, I've lost count how many times I'm seeing people sucker punching you. It's annoying, yeah. It's fucking mad. So a few things we need to clear up, and there's also some other stuff we're going to delve into that I'm sure people are going to be interested in. But just let's go back to the beginning. When you announced that you was Britain's hardest man, what did you expect to achieve?

2:33I didn't know it would blow up. People think it's a skit, because I was doing skits beforehand anyway. So I didn't know it would go so mad, and I didn't know how many people we could wind up. I didn't know people was that dumb to actually believe I thought I was the hardest man. Do you know what I mean? I'm not a combat sport fighter or nothing. Do you know what I mean? I'm just, from the streets, I'm the hardest man, I'll fight anyone in the streets, I'll bang everyone, do you know what I mean? People are mad, but it done me well, because it made me blow up so much, but a lot, probably 70 % of people knew I was joking, but you get the odd 30 % that just ain't got a clue, do you know what I mean?

3:02Still now to this day, people say, as if you think the hardest man, I think, mate, come on, mate, I've said this a joke a hundred times, do you know what I mean? I fucking lost on body shots. Oh yeah, I saw that. Was that Misfits? Yeah, Misfits, yeah. Yeah, I saw you lost on body shots, and I thought, I thought you was the hardest man. I know. Broke my heart. Body shots are, isn't it? If it was face shots, it would have been different. So really, we need to reach out to the 30 % because it's the Wild West out there. Yeah. Like, the UK is fucking madder than it's ever been. It's lawless, like, the police are low on resources and not that you'd go to the old bill because you've been fucking, you're an ex-con, you've done Bird and you've moved crazy.

3:39Yeah, you've moved crazy. Your words last time. I was moving crazy. Yeah, yeah. But what you don't want is to, like, every event you go to when you're a character, and you're big and flamboyant and you're fucking, like, you know, you've got good energy, you don't want to think, am I going to get fucking punched in the face by somebody because they've taken what I've said literal? When I go to these events, yeah, I'm loved it. Everyone loves me to bits, you know what I'm saying? But it's the odd character, one of them. One out of a hundred just don't like me for whatever reason, do you know what I mean?

4:11That's the problem. and that's where and obviously it's causing conflict because we drink everyone's drinking it's rowdy people's in fires testosterone through the roof do you know what I'm saying so every event I go to but I love it because I like the drama as well for me that's what blows me up so I go to events on purpose do you know what I mean because people are going to argue with me people are going to call me a knobhead do you know what I mean so like I'm putting myself in the fire lane really did you think at one stage people were going to start actually sucker punching you no I never thought it I believed it was going to happen I believed I was going to get hurt because I'm getting a lot of inboxing I'm getting a lot of beef do you know what I mean I've had people I have people offering me out daily but in real life in reality I'm not getting fuck off I'm getting love that's why I don't get the trolls on it and there we got trolls innit and the trolls I thought were all divs but obviously there's some serious trolls as well they want to do me but I don't really I did not think it was that deep to actually look at someone online and genuinely disliking that much where you try to fight them because what's the point I've been in jail all my life for violence I'm thinking if I've got beef with someone I've got beefing for a reason.

5:12Do you know what I mean? I want to hurt them. But I'm not doing that. I'm not doing anything too bad to make people want to hurt me and whatever. Do you know what I mean? That's what I think. Yeah, it's mad. No, I do think it's mad. So what kind of threats do you get in your inboxes? I'll kill you. This, like, just everything. The worst of the worst. Watch when I see you, lad, you're getting touched. And I get it now, like, just yesterday, I'm driving. It's always, like, one out of three or something. It was, like, three guys will buy a stack stack. As they're driving off, one of them get you fucking sausage shatting and drove off I think what is wrong with people do you know what I mean people dislike me that much but it's just yeah it's my I think because I've blown up so much and I'm in everyone's faces and I'm doing well for myself changing my life around they're probably not do you know what I mean so a lot of people probably dislike that at what point did you realise that people had stopped laughing at the character and actually wanted to prove you wrong that you're not the artist man on misfits so I think I've set a trend now yeah see Jordan McCann he got a fire we're main card we're getting paid a lot of money to fight now from his sucker punch so I think people are seeing that now they're seeing well I think let's call something so a lot of people just do the normal thing call him out but I think now people actually want to start a beef to run it up and then maybe dead the beef and just run it up to get paid you know what I mean so you've signed the contract and you're going to fight Jordan McCann yeah yeah I'm fighting Jordan and no disrespect to him but who is it who is Jordan McCann he's never really come across my radar he's a bit of a bad boy he's been in jail all his life he's a rapper do you know what I'm saying similar background to me but I think he's just I don't know he's hot headed do you know what I mean he can't really see business like he's he's just he's a loose cannon do you know what I mean Jordan McCann he's like he's a rapper he's a known rapper from Manchester yeah so he's the one when you was at the Misfits event and you're sort of having a chat with somebody and he come from out of blue and smashed you yeah so he's backing his boy he thought he didn't really know what's what but he thought I was trying to start on the Furies didn't really understand the argument and he's just come because he's a pal, he's trying to bang me from the side, do you know what I mean?

7:10And then ran off. Not that I agree with sucker punching, but I do agree with, I do like the fact when tribes stick together. Yeah, he's backed his boy, it is what it is, but he didn't really understand it because I know he spoke to my pals after that and said, look, I thought Stax was doing content and starting on Fury and obviously Fury's my pal. Do you know what I mean? So he got the wrong end of the stick. So it's a misunderstanding. Misunderstanding, but we're at Misfits, you know what I mean? He's ruined my fight. Like at least, because we're just about to, like Fiore is getting to the point where he's getting resolved and obviously he's just done that out of the blue do you know what I mean so yeah he ruined my whole fight do you know what I mean so yeah I can't wait to iron him out oh so you're confident going is he a fighter I don't think he's a fighter he's a gamer's fighter he's got heart but I don't think he's a scrapper no he's more he's more like stabber or whatever do you know what I mean like he's known for that but we're in the ring are you worried about let's just say that you beat him in the ring if the no man listen I think Is there mutual respect there?

8:06Have you made it up? We ain't made up, but it's a fight. There's no animal shit on my side. You've cheated on me, whatever. We're settling in the ring. We're both getting paid. Let's move forward. Do you know what I mean? Get paid and fuck off. I'll probably shake his hand after. I don't hate him. Do you know what I mean? I don't hate anyone. But he probably hates me. He's that type of geezer. He just talks shit all the time. So here's what it is. I'll deal with it if he wants to beef, whatever. He can beef me. I ain't beefing him. I'm not looking to go back to the job. Yeah, and that's another thing as well.

8:30it's like nothing's worth your liberty no more. Especially like when you're out there. Because I can't even fight back. I'm on camera. Every time someone's hit me, I can't fight back anyway. I've just got to fucking hold myself, innit? So how does that feel? Because I, yes, that's a good point. So every time you get banged. It's hard. Obviously, I'll defend myself. You're on camera. See if someone hits me and run off, yeah, whatever. If someone keeps trying to hit me, of course I'm going to fight back. Do you know what I mean? It's self-defense. But I'm just, I've got to put myself like, I'm so close to going back to jail.

8:58Like, I'm literally, last legs, yeah? How come? Just because of situations, all that, and obviously it's getting out of hand. So, yeah, I'm on my last legs. I do not want to go back to prison. That's why I've got to stop being around these surroundings. But it's the problem that's my career, do you know what I mean? But if people are going to start me every time, I'm not just going to stand there and just get banged every time, do you know what I mean? So, it's an awkward one, do you know what I mean? So, right now, I'm just doing positive shit. I'm trained every day. I'm not going out as much.

9:24Do you know what I'm saying? I'm not being around these events where I know it could get hands on. Because I know a lot of people, mate, the whole of the Traveller community, they fucking hate me because they feel like I've disrespected the Travellers, which I ain't. Do you know what I mean? But I know, like the other day I got a sucker punch throw. You see that with the Travellers? Yes, I did. That's sort of been clear. And you made a video afterwards saying I'd never go to war with him because he's a... He's a serious fella. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's a serious bloke. I wouldn't want the beef.

9:48I don't want beef anyway. Do you know what I mean? So obviously, that's happened it's blown up everyone wants to see a war or everyone wants to see big stats get ironed out yeah but fuck all that do you know what I mean like I think me and him are cool I've spoke to all them it was a misunderstanding as well they didn't really know my persona they thought I was a fucking knobhead they thought I was the hardest man do you know what I mean so that's where it was they understand me now yeah we're sweet but it's the rest of them they're seeing that and now they want to go to war with me like I'm getting a lot of like I could go like I'm getting a lot of beef because of it do you know what I mean so are the travellers having a pop at you to be the hardest man I think so yeah because they're all fighting men of course mate I was in Bournemouth and obviously a lot of travellers a lot of them respect me and all that they think I'm funny but a few of them the ones with big egos all that they got me in a rooms kind of thing and just said tell me now do you think you're the toughest man yeah like just tell us now do you think you're the toughest man I'm like what do you think boys like are you not seeing no tell us now you said tell us from your mouth and I'm like I'm laughing and thinking in my head you lot have got so much ego I said, look, obviously not.

10:52Yeah, it was all a joke. And they're like, that's all we need to know, yeah? And I'm thinking, rah, but how can I affect your life that much to make you want to fill me at John's hand? Yeah, talk me through the sequence of attacks that you've come under, because obviously I don't see everything that goes on, but I'm sure I've seen at least three people punch you in the mouth out of the blue, or, well, I've certainly seen more people confront you in the street, stick it on you. so yeah talk about the sequels of events where you've actually been attacked because you've had your lips slipped I've had two so it's Jordan McCann with a fury right I was fucking about with a fury Shane Fury I thought he knew it was content he said what do you think you're the hardest man you're bullying kids but I don't bully kids it's all content I fuck about that someone walked past me stage is fucked I'll pretend to take the phone and I'll say go on fuck off yeah before I laugh straight away I will call give him a phone back people want to get into that content for whatever reason I don't really understand it but so he's come up to me he's like do you think you're the hardest man, yeah?

11:49Bullying little kids. Try and put it on. I was like, I'll put it on you in a minute, mate, yeah? I was genuinely joking. He goes, you try and put it. He's like, I'm mad. So I'm like laughing and I'm thinking, obviously, obviously, in the end, boom, straight away, his pal come and hit me. Obviously, he took it out. Everyone knew it was getting resolved, do you know what I mean? So he's hit me from the side, calls a big stiff, do you know what I mean? But, obviously, I've even heard Shane Fury say, look, he didn't really know the content because he went up to Cougar straight after my pal and said, I've seen him put it on you.

12:19But it's all staged and Cougar's like, mate, it's staged. It's not real. He goes, well, I don't know that. I don't know social media. That's what he said. And is Shane Fury a dark... Tyson Fury's brother. Oh, that's Tyson Fury's brother? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking hell. So have you come across Tyson Fury during all this madness? I've seen them all but obviously I spoke to John. John was all right and said, look, Shane didn't understand. He was like, and he sort of said, look, we apologise on his behalf. So you've cleared the air. I've cleared, yeah. But now, like, yeah, I'm fine. Obviously, Jordan is with the Fury.

12:48So I don't know if the Fury's like me or what. Do you know what I mean? I don't know because they're on his side, but obviously we're going to war together. But I think, yeah, after this all done, man, I don't want to be like, I've generally think Jordan's quite funny, man. I watch his show. He's quite hilarious to watch, but I hate him because you've hit me and I need to get my own back. Do you know what I mean? It's mental to think how you've come from, like, coming out of jail, going on, doing the OnlyFans thing, and then, like, creating the character, to the hardest man in Britain. It's the internet.

13:14Anything could happen. The internet is just... Just think where you are now. You're actually fucking having, like... Dramas. You're having problems with Tyson Fury's brother. Yeah, that's why, yeah. It's like top tier. I was proud of myself, yeah. He recognises me. You know what I mean? They recognise me, though. So the Furies know me. Do you know what I mean? That's why, yeah. I've done what I need to do, innit? And it'd be nice for you to clear the air because, like, fucking... Mate, Tyson... Tyson... He's my favourite heavyweight boxer. Do you know what I mean? Tyson's my favourite... Tyson Fury is a national treasure.

13:40I'd love to get a picture of Tyson, do you know what I mean? So I'd like them to know, mate, it's all a fucking game, do you know what I mean? We're playing a game. Social media, that's how I've got to miss this. That's how I'm getting paid, do you know what I mean? Like, you've got to play the game. Was there any, you know, like when you created this character, this persona, was there any insecurity that built that character? Or did you just think... Mate, I was just taking it absolute piss and I ran with it because I think I've took off my T-shirt, fucked about I looked all like screw face yeah and I said hardest man in South End dot the dot and then fucking it's gone viral and all the comments I like race back I like winding people up I'm a wind up biggest wind up everyone knows me to wind people up the comments went man so I'm thinking right I'm gonna run with this yeah so I've sat in the car and said I'm the eyes man UK no I'll smash anyone da da da that wound people up again and then I'm getting retaliations from big fighters saying I'll fight ya I'll fight you little muppet I'm fighting I'm like this is funny now yeah so I'm going along with it I'm taking the piss out of them individually but all the fighting community they know these fighters they think I'm a big div do you know what I mean a big social media idiot yeah so it's funny to watch it was like a comedy act so I keep going back to back with these serious fighters I would never step in the ring with any of them yeah so I just carried on with it and then but now it's got to the point where I need to tone it down my life's in danger I'm not in danger but it could be do you know what I'm saying people actually want to fill me in so but I'm a nice guy I'm not a bully do you know what I mean a lot of people like I don't think I'm better than anyone.

15:08I'm still humble. Do you get me? That's what I think, mate. I want to get on with people. I don't like animosity anymore. Animosity gets you in jail. It's pointless. I need to tone it down. Yeah. It's getting serious now. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, Give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports.

15:45Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. The thing is, because I know you, like we've spoke off camera, I know that you're a nice geezer. Yeah, I know. People do know that now. People actually see that. Even when I got hit by Jordan, I've had like Charlie Sloth mission. I've loads of people messaging me and saying mate you're a proper decent lad like Eddie Hearn said the same thing Eddie Hearn I was on a video call with him and he's like I thought you was a knobhead I thought you was an absolute knobhead now I actually see you I see you're a nice guy but people didn't see that at first it was this twat going around like oh this man what the fuck's he doing I mean fuck me when you think of all the characters that you could have created to be the it's the most dangerous one isn't it it's a fucking dangerous character to create I ain't got no ego at all mug me off whatever say whatever I fuck off but people have got ego and it hurts him that I'm saying I'm hard than him like I've had some older travellers serious travellers when it first started ringing me up and saying come on mate you can't be going around saying you know this man like we've had phone calls to sort you out and I said what and I'm like are you being serious do you know what I mean because I'm like it's not that deep but we don't know social media do you know what I mean like we're the toughest round here do you know what I'm saying and I'm like oh like and obviously yeah it's all cool now but at first I'm like does it really wind people up that much I didn't really understand it yeah I mean I certainly fucking thought the whole thing was very entertaining and I thought you were good value.

17:07You know the people that come up to you in the street and I'm assuming that they know that you ain't going to start levelling them out in the street because you're going straight back to jail. Do you think they're full of ego or more insecurity? Some people call me until the camera's on they try to act up for a clip. They want to go viral they want to look hard on a clip. Yeah. And everyone wants to get a better of me. Everyone wants to a lot of people come up to me and let's have a wrestle. like but they're smaller than me do you know what I mean I end up wrestling them and doing them and I'm thinking everyone just wants to beat big stacks like it's a thing to beat big stacks like it's weird I don't know what I've caused but mate people can't let's have an arm wrestle let's punch a punch machine like when I'm a stream they just want to beat big stacks somehow do you know what I mean any type of way but normally I win most of the time I win let's start getting cheap shied that must be fucking exhausting going be honest like when you go out can you enjoy yourself or do you think I've always now got look over my shoulder yeah now I have because of all this the other day and all that because it blown so much and a lot of travellers thought I'd disrespect them in that side now I have but I didn't before I didn't really I didn't feel exactly and see me I don't roll firm handy I'm on my ones with a cameraman that's it I'm just rolling around my arms thinking there's no drama normally it's not but now it's just got to the point where people hate me or people promise I'm the money fighter do you know what I mean like and people want to they know stick it on stacks on the camera it's going to go viral and give them some sort of fame.

18:33So people are trying to do that as well. So yeah, it's just fucked. Remember last time you was on, there was a, which I now know was probably pantomime with you and Paul Venice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you and him look like you're sweet now. It was like one of my best mates. We've been cool through it. It was pantomime, literally. Yeah. Yeah, he's just mutual respect we're fucking about to blow it up. First, he was calling me out at first. I think he was quite serious. I was like, I won't fight you, you cunt. And he's like, let's go with it, run with it. And then we made it a little online thing.

19:07And it was funny to watch, you know what I'm saying? But see, Paul, funny enough, Paul, because Paul, he knows a lot of people. So when I'm getting in trouble with these little people, he's always got my back, do you know what I mean? In a sense, like, he knows me as a person. So it's lucky I've been, but Paul, I've got so much time for the geezer, man. Proper good stuff. Change are proudly sponsoring the channel. They're the UK's number one e-commerce mentoring programme, taking you step by step through building your own business with no experience needed. I've seen their members make life-changing money and free up real time to spend with their families.

19:37Success doesn't happen overnight. You've got to put the work in. The more you put in, the more you get out. What really stands out is their community. It's ram-packed with like-minded people who genuinely support each other. You get one-on-one training, online courses, and group seminars, so you're never left on your own. If you're serious about building something new for yourself, message Ryan on Instagram at RyanJB. who was the other big fucking lump you were training with who's is it Martin Ford Martin Ford yeah yeah yeah how did that relationship come about mate he actually when I was blowing up and it was getting serious for me he was messaging me he was like mate please be careful he was such a nice fellow he was like please be careful I've seen you the world is same as what you say to me the world's a dangerous world he sent me a big voice note and he was like and I said yeah definitely and he was like I'll have to come and get a session so I've got to go to a session with him nicest fella ever nice geezer fucking you there Oh, he's a big fucker.

20:28He's a fucking giant, man. I mean, you're a big guy. I mean, sitting there, people won't appreciate how fucking, how big you are. And he's... He's like double the size of me, literally. Massive. Yeah, he's strong. Ridiculous. Yeah. I think a lot of people think that, you know, being controversial online is easy and it's a good way to make money. Like, what are the parts people don't see? You've got to stay consistent, yeah? And you can fall off so easily. You have to stay relevant. You have to keep... My thing is get into arguments, yeah? like normally I stage the arguments or whatever but everyone's just watching me come on Stats go stick it on someone go put it on and I'm like it's not me I don't just go up to random people with grammar motherfuckers do you know what I mean so that's what because I go viral for getting altercations that's all people want to see now and it's like that's not the real world is it no one just goes out and getting fucking altercations every day you know what I mean but it's just staying right now I'm a content creator I work with loads of creators we're doing content that's what I do so it's lucky I got that some people are just streamers that's all they do but I'm a bit of everything I'm a jessie it's weird because where I've seen you getting fucking sucker punched and people sticking it on you in the street and you having to deal with all that sort of stuff I've also seen like a load of people warm to you because they see who you are behind the fucking facade because people like it as well and people have got like every time I go out everyone wants to pitch it loads I've got big fan base a lot of kids can't see big stacks I'm the hardest man they'll come and give me a dig or whatever like playing do you know what I'm saying it's nice to see because I've won over the children as well A lot of people say, oh, my kid loves me.

21:58He said his kid loves me. Do you know what I mean? So it's sort of like, that's what I want. I'm a PG friendly. I want to help people as well. Do you know what I'm saying? I want to help people train. I want to help people get their mindset up in a jar. I had a shit childhood. So, mate, if I could change it a little bit, I would. Do you know what I mean? So that's what I'm trying to do. When you say you're PG friendly, now I've seen some clips on you on X that probably be considered triple X rage. Yeah, yeah, of course. Do you ever get grief for that? Of course, yeah, mainly, yeah. I don't get grief, it's just comments.

22:29That was the only fan stuff, wasn't it? Yeah, I shouldn't have done it, man. I regret doing it, do you know what I'm saying? When I first came out of jail, I thought the money was there, I was in a clique, everyone done it. So for me, I thought, you know what, run with that. But I totally regret it now. I look back at it, it weren't me, do you know what I mean? I just got in a world where I didn't give a fuck about anyone. I was losing my powers because of it, no one was around me, my bird was losing all their friends, do you know what I mean? I did see you aggressively fucking a ladyboy on X.

22:57How do you respond to that? Mate, it's for the money, do you know what I mean? I'm not attracted to them. I inject myself to get hard. You've got to play a role. I do it. I make a lot of money from them videos, you know what I'm saying? So I used to do it, yeah, but it weren't me. I had a bird at the time. She only wanted me to do that. Are you straight gay or bi? I'm straight. I don't do it for fun. I've done it for the money. Totally regret it. And who got you into that? I mean, how does that conversation come about, Sandy? Do you want to come and fuck this ladyboy? I first came out of jail.

23:27I was doing OnlyFans, yeah? No, someone approached me when I was in jail. Oh, you'll be so straight. Why don't you do a... He's a porn producer or whatever. Why don't you do a wank on camera? I'll give you some dough. So I was like, wank on camera? Of course, you give me 500 quid. When I first came out, I thought 500 quid for an hour. Fuck it. Done a wank on camera. He said, let me make you an ex. Let me make you an ex. Let me make you an ex. You're going to blow up. You've got that look for it. Gays love the straight guys.

23:52Blown up all my socials And I was running with it And obviously At first You do the old wank You're wanking And obviously your fans want more Then we used to get A group of our lads We used to wank together Not touching each other We used to all have A group wank yeah Circle wank And then we used to Send it to your fans As you do As you do yeah As the lads do on the weekend Did you have a pillow Dividing you Or was it just like Nah cocks out Let's go It's hard for me man Because I'm straight from jail And I'm hearing fellas Making noises next to me And I'm like Oh mate It's a mortar I'm running off the camera I'm looking at fucking poong-wanking, running back, quickly get my nut, yeah, bossing, then fucking, yeah.

24:28But then it starts leading to the trans, do you know what I mean? Obviously you make money because it's sex, so you're having setting in yourself and more videos, more videos, and then next minute you're fucking doing the whole lot, aren't you? But yeah, man, it's just... But do you feel compromised? I mean, not that sexuality matters anymore, but like, where are you? I do feel, mate, I feel like I regret what I've done, because that's not me I'm straight I mean you've seen me today in a pair of shorts did you look me up and down and think I wouldn't mind fucking him I see you looking at me you're talking about my fires no you've got good fires but nah I'm not I wouldn't have seen that way ever I could take that as a bit of an insult I mean I've seen some of the geezers you fucked and the wigs put a wig on mate there we go so of all the things you've done fucking OnlyFans prison porn boxing you've built this outrageous online character.

25:24Like, what are you actually searching for? Obviously, I'm an entertainer. That's what I want to do. Do you know what I mean? Just have fun with it as well. And maybe, like, I enjoy it. Do you know when I go out and all kids want photos of me and all that? They like me and that. Do you know what I mean? That's what I want to do as well. But, yeah, it's just, mate, I'm here for the money as well, isn't it? It's going to be hard. And I think, you know, I know some of these things I've said that you probably fucking don't particularly like. but I think once you've dealt with them and addressed them and said, I regret doing that, like, it was a fucking mad phase in my life.

25:58And what was it you said? You've got, like, a hypomania. Hypermania, yeah. Something like that. So you've probably done things where you haven't really thought them through properly. It's down to the parenting as well, because I didn't have a good, I mean, my father's date, like, I've never had morals, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've never thought, like, I've been in crime since, like, 10 years old. I've been in jail since 12. So no one's ever told me, like, I don't listen to anyone. Like, when I say, I always think I'm right. Do you get me? So, yeah. How about you take this on board? Just stop telling people you're the hardest bloke in Britain.

26:27No, that's it. Because you're going to keep getting covered. I still do that. It's a laugh, isn't it? Are you going to carry on with that? Yeah, I'm still going to go. Because that's what I'm known as the hardest man in Britain. So I'm still going to, but normally I'm doing skits where I'm the hardest man in Britain and you've got this disabled geezer punching me and I'm out on the floor, out cold. Do you know what I'm saying? So I'm taking the piss out of myself as well. I hope people, I mean, this is why I called you back on for a part two, and I've never, ever got someone back on for a part two so quick.

26:50But because I've spoke to you off camera, and I know it's an act, and I keep seeing you get fucking punched in the face, I just think, let's try and put something together where people, like, this is kind of like an announcement. But I'm putting different content out as well. Yeah, it was a character. Stop punching me in the face. I don't want to see you get punched in the face. like... No, but someone knock me out, please. Yeah? Punch me. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Fucking hell, you're doing it again. Yeah, that's it. You're offering them out. No, no, no. You're offering them the prize. I think people know it.

27:21It's a character anyway. Do you know what I'm saying? They do know that, but it's just silly drunk people which think I'm... Because you'll see Bevo and you think, fucking it, you want to hear Bevo. Do you know what I mean? He don't claim he's hard. It's just people... We're online. We're content creators. A lot of people probably... They work hard for their money. Do you know what I'm saying? We're just here just... Obviously people will give us dollar for nothing do you get me so it's probably like they think we're knobheads anyway because we're doing fucking silly skits get a real job do you know what I mean so you get a lot of that anyway when the camera's off you like who is who is Charlie Robert Big Stax is Big Stax but I think he's the same person who's Charlie I can lose I've got a temper I see Big Stax Charlie's always got a temper but I push my buttons I'm always like I'm getting angry do you know what I'm saying you're mugging me off I don't get mugged off but I'm still a nice guy deep down but it's just yeah I'm just trying to do my thing like I'm yeah I'm a gentleman I'm not a bully I'm not horrible I'm not fucking racist I'm not like anything I'm saying I just I'm a man innit I've been in jail I've come out I've swept my life out and you've got good thighs yeah I've got good thighs yeah I work on my thighs a lot yeah Giza works on his thighs let me let me tap into the human side of you yeah you lost your dad when you was yeah young did that mould you into who the man you've become yeah and how and how so I think obviously it was hard for the whole family all that and I think it's done alright because I had to bring myself up yeah so I'm very self-sufficient I live by myself I meal prep all my own meals I do everything myself do you know what I mean work myself everything is through me go gym do you know what I mean I've got a good routine but it's mainly jail as well jail makes you very routine doesn't it so do you think jail done you a good turn 100 % it was the best I was wild see when I was 22 I was so wild I was sitting crap I was getting a gang beef I was doing the most when I come jail when I come out I come out of this mentality and I've kept it all the same where fuck all that shit do you know what I mean I'm not getting involved no shit I'm just I'm legit I don't want to go back to that I want to build a family I want to stop my own shit when you were selling crack were you smoking crack no no no no you don't look like somebody that's abused drugs yeah no no other than steroids yeah steroids just the juice just the juice what course are you taking I'm not taking nothing at the minute natural el naturale you know people are going to in the comments look at your shoulders and traps No, but, mate, I've lost weight.