Left-Wing THUGS Attack 17-Year-Old Activist: Young Bob Exclusive

24:06Yeah, so I started out, and ironically, it's like where every right-wing pundit starts at like drama school. Or I was doing like theatre in my secondary school. And I could just see the wokery. I could see what left-wingism was doing to people, you know, engaging them in degeneracy, engaging them in a promiscuous life that has irreversible consequences. And it's all got me upset. I've always been a bit more spiritual minded. I don't like hedonism. I think it corrupts the soul. It corrupts the body and it makes you just feel dirty. And I don't like that. That's what the left wing does. So that's young people are affected.

24:43And the reason, for example, they don't like us talking about deportations is because the left have indoctrinated people to believe because we have this altar of multiculturalism that if I say, look, we need to control the borders. For many people, it's that I want to deport my black mate, for example. That's what it sounds like to a lot of students. That's why a lot of them aren't right wing, because they've just grown up in this woke, multicultural education through primary and secondary school. Let's talk to them that right wing ideas will fundamentally change their life as they know it. You've got a touch of Colin Firth about you.

25:20The penny has just dropped. And you say you studied drama. I'm going to veer off for a little bit, because I want to get into the mind of young Bob and who you actually wanted to be before you got into politics. So you obviously like the idea of acting and, I suppose, becoming an actor. Is that where you wanted to go before politics? Yeah, I love that idea. Doing a bit of amateur production there, doing the yearly productions when I was at secondary school studying GTSs and stuff. I did a pretty fine job. I think the best one I did was when I was playing Mr. Bumble for Oliver Twist. Apparently I have a really deep singing voice.

25:51I only learned that until I auditioned for it. And I loved doing it. It was just incredibly unfortunate. And I can tell you this story. So at my secondary school, this was the last play I would do for the secondary school because it was in year 11. So it was close towards my exam for GCSE. And I wasn't planning to go to the sixth form. I wanted to go to college. And, you know, I was sort of detached from all of the social circles within the sort of theatre production company. and on the same week of the actual play itself, Oliver Twist, a student committed suicide or tried to. He was recovering.

26:30He tried to hang himself and it was, I think, the second to last show we did and we were all backstage and one of the students, like, casually said, yeah, none of us have ever liked you. We all talk shit about you behind your back. You should go kill yourself. No one wants you here And that was like one of the last, because I was being diplomatic with these people. So for example, the year before that, I think it was Sunak's comments on transgenderism where he made a blasé joke about people who believe there's more than two genders. And it was group chat with all the people in the production company.

27:07And they were speaking about it. It's like, oh, it's going against trans rights. It's terrible. And I was being amicable. And I wasn't actually saying I believe these things. I was being diplomatic and saying, well, no, the reason why he said this is because he believes X, Y, and Z. So I was just essentially explaining the different worldviews that people possess, which I think is quite fair. And as being a narrator, I wasn't actually believing and enforcing these views because I wanted to hide them because I wanted friends in secondary school. Unironically, drama teaches that you can be anyone and play anything.

27:38And that was one of the main reasons why I was really enticed into doing it. And they used those comments to justify why they were berating me with comments suggesting that I should have taken my own life. And I think that moved me down a different track because I finally realised you can't be diplomatic and you can't not speak about what makes us different to people who generally want you dead. You have to highlight that because if you don't, the right-wingers are going to be doing the British thing of being quietly polite where they're being trodden on by people who actually want them dead. So considering you could have gone on to act, and you still can, by the way, if you get sick and tired of being punched in the face, lean back into acting.

28:13You've got to get punched in the face by everyone who wants me to be some left-wing progressive nutjob. Well, just go into actor mode, I'd be a complete psychopath in there. They wouldn't dare. Well, to be fair, I could always go down the grift of, oh, you know, the right-wing groomed me, please forgive me. I've always thought, I always make jokes with my friends that that's one of the alternative routes I could go if I really regret my life decisions. But no, I'm here for the long stay, I think. Well, I mean, at your age, the world is your oyster, and the fact that you're high-frequency, highly intelligent, and you can go different directions, and you're multi-talented as well, and we're going to go with the autism and Asperger's being a superpower.

28:47Just think about your options, certainly whilst you're under attack, because you've also got hope not hate that have targeted you. I mean, how does it make you feel to be 17 years of age and know that you're already on hope not hate's radar? Well, they used the wrong name. So I don't know if we'll go into this later on, but I'm Eastern Orthodox. So we take our baptismal names like very seriously. So within the church, I won't be called Thomas. I've been called Gregory because that's my baptismal saint after Gregory the Theologian, one of the free patriarchs of the Holy Orthodox Church. And whenever newspaper articles used to ask for my real name, because obviously when they approached me for comments, especially during the migrant hotel protests, they wouldn't think young Bob's sufficient.

29:25So I just said Gregory. So I hope not, hey, I actually think my real name, my legal name is Gregory Moffat. So I always get a good laugh out of that. But I don't know. It's kind of numb. Because I work with people that are so old. Obviously, you said the world is your oyster. I made a passing blase joke that I could claim I was groomed by the right wing. I'm probably in a different position in terms of employability and future prospects to someone like yourself or someone like Tommy Robinson or someone else, I don't know, Carl Benjamin. Because obviously, they're very much established right wing figures and they're old, which means they can't make the same excuses that I do considering my age.

30:01So I've always just assumed that I'm in the same boat as everyone else, but maybe that's not true. So when I see Hope Not Hate, I do what everyone else does, especially during the state of hate. It's like, it's a right wing Oscars. How many times were your name included in the Hope Not Hate report of this year? And I think I got three or four or something like that. So good start. Did you wear it like a badge of honour? Yeah, of course. Now you say about you could go down the path later on down the line if you regret your life decisions, saying that the right wing of groomed you. Obviously a joke, and I don't believe that just on camera.

30:30Of course. But now considering that your brain power is supreme, there's no point beating around the bush and intellectually you are going to overpower the majority of the nation. What would you say to people that would say maybe you're grooming the right wing? That is true. A lot of people accuse me of being a subversive, which could be the case. And I do sometimes look the reason why I'm called Bob's obviously of Bob of Speaker's Corner. I literally started my career at Speaker's Corner because I love watching Bob's videos and like sort of consumed him so much that I picked up a lot of his rhetoric and a lot of the way that he did things.

31:07So one of the things about what I do is I sort of religiously watch people that I like and I look at what makes them good and what do they do to be known on the Internet, to be pushed by the algorithms. And I think that's why I've had a such successful career in a short period of time. So I've only started social media, I think, by a year ago. And I've been able to gain such a prominence and recognisation, which is good. And being a regular face at Speaker's Corner, what's the most hostile reception you've received there? I'm trying to limit me going there because I think a few weeks ago, a guy threatened to stab me.

31:43And the officers searched him and he passed over something that was hidden to his mate. And I tried to tell the officers this, but they didn't do anything. So because it's like most people, like Bob, he's politically outspoken, but he didn't really spend a lot of time in politics. No one else at Speaker's Corner does. So I'm this sort of weird hybrid of religious apologist and also political polemicist, which means that the Muslims don't just have an issue with me because I don't agree that God exists. It's also because I'm a lot of them deported, which introduces a new dynamic to the equation and that's why they're all quite aggressive towards me a lot of the times.

32:24And predominantly people your age, are they steering more towards Islam or Christianity, do you think? I think there was a sort of post-COVID 2021 phenomena of men coming to Islam but then that sort of died down as soon as people... Because Islam is a very legalistic faith and it's also a faith that doesn't make sense. And what I mean by this is that when you sell that Islam is this hot thing on the block, you know, you need to go and return to religiosity because of times of austerity. You're alone by yourself. You're put into lockdowns. It sounds all cool. It's like a vibe check-in, you know, it's a good vibe.

33:00Then you go into it. OK, you have to pray five times a day. You have to fast religiously. So then you hear that and then it instantly turns you off, which means then you don't, you liberalize your faith. you don't do the five daily prayers, you don't do the fasting. So then that already disengages you from the orthodoxy of the Islamic faith. And then they go to the actual beliefs. They'll go in the online space and say, I'm a Muslim, alhamdulillah. It's like what Sneeko did, convert to Islam and start talking about Islam, then got brutally humiliated by a few of my friends down at Speaker's Corner because he decided to go one day and it didn't go very well for him because what he was sold on the internet was not the same Islam that is actually in reality.

33:38And also, because Islam was sold in opposition to Christianity, the Muslims intentionally lied about my faith to then give Islam to other people. So they immediately went on the internet, they finally got sold the actual real aspects of their religion and then we actually resolved the issues they had for the Christian faith. So I would say glory be to God, there is a quiet revival amongst 18 to 24 year olds, especially boys, men in the church and hopefully we'll be able to keep them as long-term converts because one of the issues with religion, the same issue that happened with Islam in 2021 can happen to Christianity in 2026.

34:12We can peak and it will dip and we won't have long-term converts, so just convert back. So we need catechesis, which is like teaching people about the actual Christian faith. Well, interesting to get your take on this. So recently I was front row, luckily, at the Oxford Union debate, which is, are the West right to be suspicious of Islam? That was the debate. So there was people giving their reasons why we should be suspicious, and there was the opposition, I would say, giving reasons as to why the West shouldn't be suspicious of Islam. I won't go into the minutia of that, but there's a question to you.

34:51Should the West have the right to be suspicious of Islam and why? So there's this interesting discussion politically on what religion should we be sceptical of. So it's always been Islam, and the reason why it's always been Islam is because Islam is a proselytising religion. So it's the only sort of religion within the pantheon of religions that exist in the UK that teach that it has to expand its faith, that you have to give dawah to people. You don't see a Sikh, you don't see a Jew stand like, this is why you should be a Hindu, this is why you should be a Jew, this is why you should be a Sikh.

35:23So we've always critiqued Islam based on the idea that religiously they are the only religion that tries to expand themselves. We have now started talking about other religions, so like the Sikh community, the Hindu community, the Jewish community, because it's now becoming not just a religious issue of the British people becoming Muslims, but also now a demographic one. So obviously religions are typically tied to ethnicities as well. They don't always have to. Like Christianity is a great example of a universal faith of Nigerian Christians, English Christians. But Islam, for example, is a very Abrahamic, Arabized faith.

36:00So a lot of Arabs are Muslims. So there's a demographic aspect to it. So, look, do I believe that we should be sceptical of Islam? Yes, we should be sceptical of all religions in this country because, of course, we're a Christian country. And I believe that, yes, can we have a small percentage of people with different religions? Absolutely. And in fact, if we coexist with other different religious groups, that would then convince them that Christianity is true because we're bearing witness to the one true holy Catholic and apostolic faith. However, we should also be sceptical of what they actually say because Islam is a proselytizing faith.

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37:08Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro Plans. I'm going to come on to the Jewish community in a minute and see where you stand on that. But before I do so, I don't forget. Andrew Tate, now his target audience were lads around your age, and he was really capturing the youth, the young men, not just of Britain, but of the world.

37:53I mean, he was a phenomenon when he switched it on and had hundreds of thousands of people posting his content. I mean, that was quite a force of nature as a spectator's point of view to watch him just consistently machine gun with alpha male rhetoric. But then he slipped into politics and he slipped into religion and then he converted or reverted. If you want to go down that ridiculous narrative. But did he did Andrew Tate have any influence over you at any point? that's a weird one because I was in like year seven when he came about I always thought that he was the sort of social experiment but then derving into his views I do think there was a degree of what Andrew said that was clickbaity, pushing the algorithm however I don't think that he is particular like a thought leader I think he's more of just a symptom of a problem so he is of a dichotomy of like we talk about toxic femininity femininity, but we also talk about toxic masculinity.

38:57Now, his position economically and physically is great. Everyone should aspire to be rich and also good looking. However, he is a symptom of when males and females become detached, detached societally, when you no longer have that union of women and men working together. So like someone like Bonnie Blue or something like that is on the other side of where Andrew Tate lies. I've always liked Tristan Tate though. I would say that him bringing orthodoxy into the forefront of politics has always been a good thing and also Tate sort of represents to me what George Galloway represents. It's like young men need to be more religious they don't need to have a particular religion they just need to be more religious like when Andrew Tate was, I don't know if he's still a practicing Muslim but when he was he went to liturgy in an orthodox church for Easter because he doesn't really think about what religion he prescribes himself to.

39:52He just believes in religiosity, people being religious. And George Galloway sort of believes that. He's like a Christian leader of party, mostly run by different Muslims. And I think that line of thinking is rather faulty, considering that these ideas sort of contradict one another. But it's, you know, a symptom of what men actually are. You mentioned Bonnie Bluce. We're going to go there quickly. As a 46-year-old man, she's sat opposite me twice because I find her behaviour repugnant. And I thought after the first interview, I would have got my point across that the masses don't like what you're doing.

40:21And then she went on and went even more extreme. And I got her back and told her in so many words, you make me feel physically sick. And you do a lot of moral, principled males and females across the globe. Are you prepared to stop now? And I believe she's gone on to do far worse. but from a 17 year old lad's point of view not just bonnie blue but the likes of bonnie blue all these only fans that are just selling their soul to the devil i'm sure you believe that as a religious man but how do you perceive that kind of behave that level of degeneracy because a lot of young lads i can imagine will be drawn to that kind of filth as a 46 year old man i have well, stepdaughters close to that age.

41:08And if I thought for one second that she was aspiring to become one of those types of females that push it to the limit for fame and glory and money, it would distress me greatly and I'd do everything in my power to make sure that didn't happen. But from a young man or young men's perspective, how do you perceive this OnlyFans era? Pornography has destroyed both my life and every single life of a man currently existing on social media. It has made every single man have a worse attention span. It has drawn men's aspirations down in terms of having families. It increases divorce rates. It increases sexual promiscuity, which obviously has issues with, for example, like STDs and stuff.

41:51And one of the issues that I have with the right-wing, and just everyone in general who espouse socially right-wing views, is they don't have Christianity. They don't have the faith. So they start talking about politics and they don't talk about Christianity or have a presence of religion in their heart. And I've seen even right-wingers be affected by the porn industry. It's affected everyone. It's affected me, certainly. There have been times in my life where I've heavily relied on porn, which has been a very dark part of my life, and I would be far more patient. I would have such more of a long attention span if it weren't for pornography.

42:27and to see women profit off that is deeply saddening because it's selling their body, their soul away and it's also selling the men's souls away that consume that content. I wish I had that eureka moment that you've obviously had about watching porn when I was your age because my porn consumption went well into my late 20s, possibly early 30s before I realised this is actually extremely damaging. So I don't consume that shit either for those very reasons. But yeah, thank God that you've decided that this isn't the way forward. It's far too consuming. It completely pollutes your mind, rots your soul to the core.

43:04And for relationships, it's appalling. If you want connection, ditch the pool. Like the amount of women that I've encountered in my very brief life that have been completely broken from the sort of sexual epidemic we have. It's ruined women. Like it's completely destroyed their life. It's made them broken. Because we have taught that this generation at a very young age has to rely on sex. It's completely ruined everyone. And what's your position on, no pun intended, what's your position on sex before marriage? Yeah, so I'm engaged, probably be married, I think I'm planning it for next summer. And I'm a virgin, happily.

43:40In fact, one of the first videos that got quite viral, I think it's the first time Tommy Robertson ever posted about me, was me having a discussion in Camden town with a woman on abortion and she says how can you speak to me about abortion as a 17 year old virgin and i'm happy about that and there's um i'm not ashamed at all to say that um because i get to enjoy that moment with someone that i've dedicated my entire life to and is your girlfriend christian same age similar yeah same age christian and she's happy to wait until you're married yep is there ever a time when you two uh are in that kind of headspace and it feels right and you'd like to and you have a discussion and say, I'd like to, but we can't.

44:22Yeah. I mean, it's, it's especially difficult considering my jobs, there's been up and downs and in our relationship, not being able to see her, she lives quite far away. Um, constantly, like if I'm attacked, people, she will see the video online before she'll see me. So it's not been the best on her. So you don't think that sex before marriage is like an old hat biblical policy. You actually consider it a sin? Yeah, I consider it a sin. I'm not a puritanical Christian. I don't think it's like the end all. In fact, it can be very easily resolved through genuine repentance and confession. One of the things that really changed my perspective on pornography would probably be, so before you get baptised, it's sort of a courtesy.

45:08You don't have to, to have a lifetime confession. So confessing your sins that you know in good faith to a priest. And most of them were just lust. Most of them were just, I've lusted women, I've watched porn, I've done some things that are undesirable. I probably can't, in my pride, admit to you on camera. Okay. So when I said I was going to ask you about Israel and the Jews, I've seen people scream in your face that you're a Nazi. So let me just clear that up. Are you a Nazi? No. Okay. What are your thoughts on the Nazis? Bad people. Don't like people dying. You know, it's as simple as that word for you comes to.

45:47I don't think the persecution of people based on immutable characteristics is a good thing. And anti-Semitism is completely on the rise. And I don't know what age groups have prescribed to this Jew hatred movement. So where do people your age stand on the whole Jew front? So the difficult thing with the question of the Jewish people and also Israel is that it's always been a taboo topic. Now, a promotion of free speech has also promoted people to speak outside of the orthodoxy of political discussion. So we've never had a discussion before, especially with social media existing on Israel or on the Jewish communities that live in their own countries.

46:31And now we're having them because the Jewish people have been historically a persecuted minority. When they're hearing these discussions, sometimes they can conflate it with genuine suppression or discrimination. So I wouldn't say, especially people of my generation, I don't think they're anti-Semitic. I just think that they're either sceptical or they're just willing to have a discussion. Now, sometimes that expresses themselves in a very immature way, like what you say with a lot of the incel community. They would just say, deport, deport, deport, or, you know, I hate Jews, I hate Jews, stuff like that.

47:04That's, you know, intellectual sloppiness. But then there's some quite rightful discussions we should be having on these topics. And I, of course, encourage healthy discussion. And what discussions should they be? For me as an Orthodox Christian, I'm not a Zionist, would happily say that to you. I believe that Israel is God's covenantal land. I believe it should be given to the Christians at some point. However, I'm absolutely fine with Jews living in Israel. I'm absolutely fine with Muslims living in Israel. And I'm absolutely fine with Christians living in Israel. And currently the state of Israel does provide that.

47:35So a Christian can work within the political reality of geographically who owns what country. However, ideally, I want the Christians to own the Holy Land. And how would you describe Adolf Hitler? A terrible man. Obviously, he was a great political thinker and thought leader. That's why I obviously people rallied behind him. However, what he'd later gone on to do with putting people in camps was terrible. You see, when I was 17, the only thing I knew about Adolf Hitler was the rumour that he only had one testicle, and that was because of the song that we would all sing at school, that Hitler's only got one ball and the other was in the abber, or his mother, the dirty bugger, cut it off when he was small.

48:17Was that song ever floating around school when you were there? I don't think so. When I was like 15, I loved reading about the differences between communism and fascism. So I've briefly read about both ideologies, and look, no one can deny it. Hitler was a pioneer, a great political thinker, but he did terrible things. He was an evil guy. And, you know, sometimes I see this insurgency of people like being devout Hitler supporters. I think that's wrong. And I think that's just part of like the sort of incel community sort of, we can say anything on the internet, so why not say it for the sake of saying it?

48:54We've obviously discussed Israel, Jews, Nazism, and now Hitler, very briefly, and his testicles. So for people that scream Nazi in your face, what would you say to them? Because you can now because they can't interrupt and they can't throw things in your face and they can't punch you. What would you calmly tell these people that call you a Nazi? Well, it's like when I was in Sussex and there was a protest being formed outside the UD, I was like, okay, you don't like Nazis, great. It's like, I don't like bad things and I don't like good things. The issue of politics is like people think it's like two-dimensional battle between good and evil when it's not.

49:28They disagree with me, so I must be evil because they're on the good side. That's not true. There are good people on the left, but that's not how it works. If I ask you, do you like bad things? Of course, you're going to say no. You like good things and you don't like bad things. So when someone accuses you of fascism, they're doing the same thing, but just using a bit more of sophisticated wording. So I'm a fascist, can't prove it because obviously I disagree with them, which must mean I'm a bad guy and the Nazis were bad people. And can you think of an example, because that's a very good point to make, but it's knowing what's good and what's bad.

50:02So can you think of an example from either the left or the right that they promote something that's bad, but they think it's good? What are either side, in your opinion, getting wrong? So I think the left's idea of unfair wealth distribution is like it resonates with young people. So this idea that the millionaires are holding all of the world's wealth. And this is the reason why young people have been trodden on the can't afford a house. And I agree with you. A lot of people are getting richer whilst the poor are getting poorer. However, reserving that is not taxing rich people to oblivion. And obviously I'm giving a very like rudimental understanding like capitalism versus socialism or whatever.

50:46So the left wing idea of economics, I think that a lot of the people that spout that view are decent, good hearted people who see that they can't afford anything and want to. And the same would be for the right wing as well. Anyone who pushes for deportations, doesn't matter if it's too extreme or not enough. I genuinely think of good people just because I think that from their own experience, they've formed their own view and they know that this demographic change has to be reversed. So, yeah, I've heard you talk about the demographic replacement of white British nationals. So in your opinion, how do we resolve that?

51:28How do we cure that? Or should it even be cured? I'm sure it was Piers Morgan talking to Kaka Carlson. and when the question was put to him about white British nationals being replaced in the next 25 years, his response was, well, who cares? What's the difference? People are people. He loves a good curry. Yes, so we absolutely have to reverse democratic change. A nation is its people, so a country is defined by the people that settled it. And if those people are replaced, you change the country for what it fundamentally was. That's why we need to reverse it. I don't want to feel like a foreigner on my own homeland.

52:05coming into the education system. You can already see that because the demographics where you're seeing a replacement is at the maternity boards. More foreign families are having more children compared to white families and white British families. So that's becoming an ever-increasing problem and it could be very easily reversed. So the sort of colourblind deportation policy that Restore and Reformers are pushing wouldn't just deport the people they were talking about in their deportation document. It also self-deport a lot of people. So when polled, I think it's something like 40 % of the Muslim community are thinking about leaving if a reform UK government get in place because they believe that they'll be next on a chopping block.

52:47So even the migrants we don't talk about of who do we want to deport will probably leave. And it's just an issue of a lot of these migrants here don't have any real reason why they're here outside of it's easy to come. So if you make a statement saying, no, it's not easy to come. We want to create a hostile environment for migrants. You can go. They'll leave. And the thing is, I think it's okay to have a very small percentage of a migrant population in this country. It's quite edifying. However, would I want migrants or demographic replacement? I don't want to be demographically replaced. So however far we have to.

53:27An all new season of the Hulu original series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. Four years ago, we were just making TikToks. But it feels like there are no friendships left in mom talk. You act like you're better than everyone. You're not. I can't trust anyone in this group. She's just dead to me. There's so much the public doesn't know. Watch the new season of the Hulu original series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. For bundle subscribers, terms apply. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.

54:02Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. I'll go. Okay, so in the mind of young Bob, what does the perfect Great Britain look like? I like the sort of Singapore model. So instead of focusing about demographic replacement, I'll talk about deportations. And obviously, if the young Bob world also includes some social policies, I'll look at that as well.

54:45And I don't want regions of the UK to be demographically replaced. Say we had like a 90%, 95 % white British population. I don't want areas like Birmingham to still exist. I have like a 38 % population. So if you had like each area of the UK had like a 10 % migrant population, that's fine. That's pretty good. Then socially, I want people to return to holy orthodoxy. I think that even if you don't believe it's theologically sound, it's one of the best decisions that most people can ever take in their life. It gives them structure, gives them purpose, it gives them a direction in life. And more comedy, more people being happy.

55:23I like a good joke. I like people who are quite upbeat. You know, people can have a laugh even if they disagree with me. Life of Brian, you've seen that? Yes. Fan? Yeah. Although it mocks what you believe. Yeah, sort of. I watched some interviews with, I think it was a Catholic bishop and the writers of the Life of Brian, and they were sort of discussing. Originally, I believe they wanted to write, instead of Brian being Christ, it was Brian as the 13th disciple that would always show up late to the events, like Christ turning water into wine, and he just arrived there a bit too late for him to see it happen.

56:00And that was the whole comedy pitch. Obviously, Brian is not Christ. If you can, this is what I mean with being puritanical with your Christianity. If you can take a joke, the reason why a lot of people have Christian comedy films is in despite of a lot of the puritanical Christians. So a lot of people have a bad experience in their mouth about Christianity. So in despite of that experience, then throw something at us. So as long as we take it in good faith and we use it as a time to speak about actual Christianity teachers, I think that's good. I think it'd be probably better for a Christian group to also oversee and help write scripts of comedy films poking fun at Christianity rather than us not being involved at all.

56:47I think it'd be really cool if we saw comedies of biblical stories and it actually be quite detailed to what these events actually look like. Because it's a fun, educational way of learning about biblical stories. Yeah, for me, fun cures everything. And we have to remember to laugh at everything, including ourselves. Always look on the bright side of life. I always loved that song. I was just about to break into Whistle then, but I won't. What's your ultimate goal, the work you're doing? In your mind, have you got a target, an end result, the ultimate goal? I'd love to just go on different podcasts, go and do university stands and have a good personal life, have kids very young and be able to financially support myself.

57:31That's sort of the dream. And being a regular speaker's corner, I'm assuming you're an advocate for free speech. Are you a free speech absolutist or is there a line where you think, okay, that's now crossing the line of free speech? In this country, yes. I don't think it's an ultimate end, but it's means in many respects, because in this country, I'm not like, I'm not a liberal in the sense that like, if I could trust the government, I would probably give a few of my freedoms away if it actually benefited us at all. However, I don't trust Keir Starmer with that. So I think that in our current system of governance, we need free speech at an absolute level.

58:11Do you know what? By the time this is aired, Keir Starmer may be gone. Yeah, it might be Burnham. I was in Makefield, I bumped into him. Apparently he's a nice guy. I haven't seen it, but he's definitely a socialist who will wreck this country. Yeah, they're all nice guys until they're sat at number 10, hiking up taxes and taking away winter fuel allowances. But they're only nice to get into power. It's like Jenrick. Jenrick's apparently, from what I've heard, quite a personable guy, but he's definitely rocking up the reform UK leadership bit. There was a Muslims for Reform van that was driving about in Makerfield.

58:44Now, did you have anything to do with that stunt? No, I did not. So we were canvassing pledges. So on the day of elections, you canvass and knock on doors. You've said you vote for us. Have you gone out and vote? Because in elections, just quickly, in order to win elections, it is not based on the actual support of the constituency, but rather the voter turnout itself. So if you've got more people turning out to vote for Restore, and there's actually more on the ground support for reform but reform voters don't decide to go out. It means that Restore went. So we're knocking on pledges and there's a massive main road as you go off to a lot of these small areas that we're going to in Makefield.

59:20And there was Muslims for Reform van. I didn't know if it was Stunt. I obviously knew it wasn't from us because that would break electoral law. I thought it was quite funny. So we all did the one Tawhid thing. I always do it. It annoys people. People become really conspiratorial when I do it. I just think it's funny because Ali Dower always does it. So I'm trying to take it back. And I did it, posted it, then realized I worded it saying it was a stunt. And I read it again. I was like, people are going to think I did this when I didn't. I can't even drive. The thing is, reformers don't like restore in such a way that you give them any ammunition and they'll use it.

59:56So like people were like really like reform accounts were being really bad about it. They were like, you've got your fingerprints everywhere. We all know you do it. we've called the police, yada, yada, yada. I was like, I'm not going to take this seriously. After a day it blew over, LBC asked Charlie Downs, was this anything to do with you guys? And they said, no, I condemned it as well. It's a funny stunt. Take it in good humour. We have a guy who had been on his face running in the election and you're really getting muddled up and a black fan obviously isn't official. And what do you think about the division on the right and the hatred between reform and restore?

1:00:30Does it help in anything? It's healthy. I would say that Restore is currently now what UKIP was to the Conservative Party. And the way I would word it is if Farage is angry that people are voting for Restore and trying to destroy reform, what was Farage trying to do to the Conservative Party? He's trying to destroy it. So why does he not expect the same thing to happen to him? We're evolving into a new political system. We really shouldn't have first pass to post. We operate under a six-party system. It's not the Union Party anymore. Well, Burnham might try to return it back to the new party, Aberdeen South Conservatives one.

1:01:04So you never know, there might be an insurgency. But currently, we have new parties coming out of left, right and centre, which means they're going to try five new avenues of votes and they're going to find new campaign tactics. Restore obviously heavily focusing on the 50 % of different in every constituency don't go out to vote. And also reform voters. and obviously I see a massive problem with the Reform Party taking in people who had senior positions within the Tory party. Niamh Sahawi, Niamh Doris, Robert Jenrick, Suweva Braverman, all of these people contributed to the downfall of this country and even if they resigned or didn't hold their positions for very long within cabinet, I believe these people should be collectively punished, that they should never form a formal office at all.

1:01:49I think they should probably be retroactively punished for stuff like the Boris wave or the Afghan resettlement schemes, which brought in thousands of foreign criminals to take advantage of the most vulnerable within society. Have you read the rape gang inquiry in its entirety? Yes. Tell me about that. Yeah. So the estimates. So there are actually estimates outside of the report, which suggests a million women. It's 250 ,000 within the report. and it goes into, so a lot of these groomers where people from a particular tribe within Pakistan, specifically Kashmir, used to be part of Pakistan and it goes into how disproportionately Pakistani men were institutionally grooming and you've obviously heard this all the time before but we need to keep on saying it because it's ridiculous that this has ever happened before and I'll give you one of the witness testimonies that really like turned my stomach.

1:02:44So 250 ,000 women being institutionally raped disproportionately by Pakistani men who are part of the same tribe within Pakistan, mostly influenced by the cultural and religious beliefs that women like premarital rape laws, for example. So a lot of these case officers hid what was happening and also oversaw a lot of these people potentially being married. Some of these women would have been sent to Pakistan. Some of these women would have been secretly married. and the case officers actually oversaw that happening. One of them was a girl was living in a cottage. The cottage got demolished by the council.

1:03:23They moved her into a flat right next to someone who would go on to serially rape her, this Pakistani. And this fellow also goes on to, I think, rape people who are up to three years old. So the fact that we're ever having a discussion within a developed westernized democracy, that we could see the importation of people who don't share the same values as ours, exploiting the most vulnerable within society, whilst case officers, whilst families like mothers and fathers that are being prosecuted for harassment because they're trying to stop this happening. And it's like what happened with Henry Novak.

1:04:00You could see in real time a young man who sees the police obviously hopes that they're going to save him, save his life, and they take it. In the same way that I imagine that's how the women feel and also the fathers and mothers. I'll call the police because the police will save me. But then the police are the ones that take your life away. Going back to that rape gang inquiry. So I've seen political figures pipe up since that report got put out. And I've never seen or heard a word from them before. No outrage about the young girls being systematically raped up and down the country. But they're showing outrage now and they're accusing the figures of being overly exaggerated.

1:04:47Now, to me, even if they were, which I don't believe they are, in fact, if anything, I'd say they're probably lower than what they really are. But you've got people now with the gall and audacity to moan about the 250 ,000 statistic being amplified, but not mentioning the outrage about children being raped. How do you perceive those people? What would you say to those people? And how would you ever get those people's stinking thinking corrected? It's the over-intellectualization of politics. You still see the establishment stooges seeping into this discussion. So instead of actually talking about this substance of what's going on here.

1:05:28So for me and you, we don't come from like a traditional political background, which means that we are just looking at how politics actually changes our lives. Meanwhile, politicians are looking in the abstract to, okay, how do I defend my views? How do I attack other people's views? They're still thinking in that debate mode. We're thinking about, okay, how does this affect us? Literal girls being groomed on the streets. They're thinking, what are the actual numbers? And if you saw the riots, for example, people don't operate under statistics. They operate under their real-life experience. Tommy Robinson didn't start his career and get in prison several different times just simply because he saw statistics or per capita statistics on different tribes of people and how they commit rape and SA on young girls.

1:06:17He saw it in real time and he acted accordingly. Men go out and riot in Northern Ireland because they saw one of their mates being beheaded on the street by a Sudanese migrant who shouldn't be there. No one operates under this framework of what do the numbers say in this 200-page document. They operate of what they can see. Yeah, shame on anybody that's moaning about the stats as opposed to the actual crimes themselves. And I can easily defend the stats. The 250 ,000 was extrapolated from the data with places like Rotherham and Rochdale and assumed the same statistics complied with other areas in which we saw actual grooming gangs in these nations.

1:06:53So it is fairly consistent and estimates come up to a million and that wasn't used within the actual grooming gang report. So you're looking to 250 ,000 to 1 million women and that could even be higher. and no one's denying that the prosecution for rape is like 2%. So for the people, the left-wingers who will say you never focus on native British people carrying out crimes, which we do, I condemn it, I probably want to see these people hung up on the streets and people to see it for who they really are, they talk about how it's underreported. But why do they not be consistent in saying it's underreported the grooming gangs?

1:07:30Because it has to be. So with all these things considered, your political drive, activism, constant arrests, threats, and you being beaten up quite badly on numerous occasions now. What do your parents think about your work? My mother tries not to watch. She's obviously very concerned. But, for example, the video I have in Manchester, she did not look at it at all because she didn't want to see it. Fiancé, she has to see this before I tell her. She gets very angry and very upset. But my dad's more frustrated at me. I think that's very like a fatherly thing to do. You need to take your own safety very seriously.

1:08:12So he's upset, but also very angry that I don't take my own precautions, which is fair enough. It's also, I've got an identical twin brother. He looks exactly like me. So if I do anything controversial, he gets a flack for it. Now that is very interesting. So has your activism actually caused conflict within your family? Some elements I can't talk about, but others I can. every so often my identical twin will be first identified as me and like someone threatened to beat him up on the train once because he was like an anti-fascist activist and thought I must be young Bob and obviously it's like oh he's my twin it's like my dog went my homework sort of excuse if your parents begged you to stop what would you say?

1:08:52they have in the past but I'm sort of like I want to do this if it goes against your wishes so be it But I think it's got to a point now where it's like my face has been plastered over the internet. There's no, I can't really tent back now, can I? And as you've seen on the left-hand side, the level of violence, and also you speak out against Islam and you've seen people being beheaded, shot, executed because they've critiqued that ideology. Can you see why your parents would be concerned? Yeah, I would say absolutely. I wouldn't want my son or daughter to do this. A lot of young lads come up to me, 15, 16, 17.

1:09:34I'm surprised the amount of young people come up to me. I love what you're doing. It's like, if you were doing this from start, how would you start? I was like, I wouldn't start now. I would do it the proper way. I wouldn't do it in the sort of weird way that I went about forming my own career. Maybe not go to university, but work under people in politics and then, you know, do it subtly, quietly, but just be there. I don't think someone like Tommy Robinson, for example, would go out and tell other people, do the exact same thing that he did. I would do it in a more conspicuous way. Let's have our guys in politics, in like the actual Westminster political setting.

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1:11:34Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. Have you always had this self-reflection that you've got because you seem to be someone that looks inward as well as just straight ahead? So within orthodoxy, you have a spiritual father and priest. So they do a lot of the self-reflection for you. But I don't know. I've just always, like when I've watched right-wing pundits, I've always just like imagined what their situation looks like, which is probably something really autistic to do. I don't know if other people do that. So looking at their career projections, what more likely is going to happen to them, the issues they've had with censorship and stuff.

1:12:16And I've just applied that to me. and what would I do in those situations? And to box this off, we'll end it as we started because this is a plea to people on the streets. You've just seen an hour of young Bob. He's a nice guy. You don't need to punch him in the face. You don't need to throw stuff at him. You can speak and exchange words. That's what I'm hoping this interview achieves, that they've seen the human in you and think, you know what? He's a nice guy, doing what he wants to do. We do need dialogue, discourse, debate, discussion. It's healthy. It certainly beats violence. So I'm hoping and praying that this helps you achieve your goals in a far more safer space and environment.

1:12:58But we know that the left aren't as reasonable as we'd like them to be. So have you considered taking up any kind of martial art or self-defense? Yeah, it's just a matter of time, to be fair. Like sometimes I'm not even at home for weeks at a time. So I absolutely should. I will be going to at some point. Someone offered me Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, which obviously mostly focuses on restraining someone and holding them. So I might do that. Obviously, I go regularly to the gym, which started a few months ago. So hopefully that should help as well. But it's also, I just need lads and security because I think someone told me 200 babies could probably win a fight with Conor McGregor.

1:13:40If there's enough lefties out there, it doesn't matter what I know and how to defend myself. I'll just have to crawl up in a ball and hope that hopefully they don't go for the head. What about when you're in the middle of these heated debates? You've got, well, ideally you'd have people looking out for you left, right, front and back. But are you so hyper-focused on the debate that you sort of miss what's going on around you so you can't sense the attack coming? Because if you could, you could just sort of get up and leave. Where do you stand with that? It depends. So, like, as you said, I haven't been able to look at you straight for a long time.

1:14:15So I am like hyper aware. So I can sense it. But I don't know. Sometimes is it worth like if someone's trying to throw food at me during a stand, which has happened a lot, I've had like the entire English breakfast thrown at me at one point or another. Did you grab the black pudding? That's my favourite. So I would rather take it than rather chase this person up and be arrested for disproportionate defense of myself or causing an actual physical fight because I can survive a bit of water being thrown at me or something like that. But I do need security to sort of make up for the lack of awareness when you're engaging someone one-to-one.

1:14:54And is there anything else you want to say before I sign off to the camera? I don't know. Like we talked about Mighty Python's life, Brian, like sort of operate under a philosophy of always look on the bright side of life, always be cheery, always be happy. So for the people who disagree with me, even on the right, I know there's a massive divergence on the right. Yeah, just enjoy. you know the position you're in always be happy i'm very happy with where i am right now in politics and hopefully i can advance it even further and i hope that outside of the chaos and craziness of it all people can actually take away the message from which i state that people should return to holy orthodoxy um that we should be concerned and patriotic and nationalists towards our fellow brothers and sisters in both in the nation but also in christ as image bearers of god and hopefully people can not just take that and assume it and be like a, you know, based on social media, based on online popularity, just assuming someone has a costume, but rather build up on your own personal life.

1:15:54I want to see more young people being engaged from a young age, having relationships healthily, both in the church and also their own family. Because I see a lot of the degeneracy hedonism across the younger generation and prefer that to be resolved when we talk about politics and religion. Okay. Now that you've sat through an hour plus of a long format conversation with young Bob, you tell me, do you think this young man deserves to be jumped by gangs of thugs and beaten senseless on a regular basis? I will put his links in the descriptions. You can follow his work and you can continue to see if he's being treated unfairly on the streets of UK, where we should be free to say and think what we like as long as we're not inciting violence.

1:16:39If you enjoyed this conversation, please like and subscribe to the channel. And Bob, from here on in, good luck and please stay safe. I will try to. Thank you, mate.