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29:12Anyway, so we put out a press release on Reuters that we've knighted Donald Trump in a hereditary knighthood. And of course, that would get passed down to Tiffany et al. And the other children and so forth. And I made the point that the knighthoods that get granted in England are not hereditary. They're only lifetime peerages. I said, ours is hereditary. And, of course, the BBC calls up. And they saw the press release. They said, we see you've knighted Donald Trump. What have you done? You can't do that. I said, I'm sorry. I've already done it. It's now Sir Donald Trump to you. Yeah, I said, I've already done it.

29:55They said, well, they said, well, you can't. I said, but it's done. I'm sorry. I've sent Excalibur to Trump Tower by FedEx. It's a dumb deal. Anyway, so this, of course, in America, you can imagine. Oh, yeah. They absolutely found this to be just great, just like a spirit of play. Of course, over here, the BBC didn't get the joke. Like something about The Simpsons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just, they just thought it was great and the family loved it. And, you know, various different things. I went to the opening of the – you know, he opened a hotel in the middle of the – you know, the Trump Hotel in Washington was opened in the middle of the election campaign.

30:42He said, I'm going to open this hotel under budget ahead of schedule in the middle of the election campaign. And I said, well, I've got to see this because I'm doing a restoration of a hotel and I'm behind schedule and over budget. So I want to see how he does that. so we went over to opening night and um it was marvelous because it was a soft opening and um you know i met the whole team out there so then i i sort of got involved in in helping but i never did it uh in a professional sense in other words i just did it because i felt it was the right thing to do and um i was able to counter various different situations you know where somebody told a blatant lie about him, like he's a misogynist or he doesn't like black people or he doesn't like gays, if that's the correct word for them.

31:34Homosexuals, I think they prefer these days. Is that the official term? I don't know. We don't mind. We like them all. This platform, we use any term we like. Okay, good, good, good. Because I don't have a point on that. But anyway, he was being accused. And I said, hang on a second. Most of the staff at the hotel, as far as I could see were gay and black, some of them. So, I mean... So before Trump become president of the States, he was in every black rap video I can remember. He's always been embraced. And actually, he's one of the least racist people. When he bought Mar-a-Lago, the East Coast money was furious with him because they were not allowing Jewish people into Mar-a-Lago.

32:17He changed that, you know. So any idea that he, you know, he's been tried, they tried to smear him in every possible way. And what has always fascinated me as perhaps a researcher is how black propaganda and how weaponized propaganda can be used to take down individuals, groups or even countries. and propaganda or as we've come to know sort of psyops or military grade psyops has been a political really weapon of mass destruction I would say and it's evolved as a subject and I think the attack on President Trump was something that I understood because I've studied black propaganda and how black propaganda is used to destroy groups or to give people a sort of a leery sense about something.

33:18And so I was able to use what I had learned to counter the lies about Trump. And actually, it was very appreciated. And, you know, a couple of days after he won, I had a call from Eric Trump, actually. And And he said, John, thank you so much. We saw everything you did, of course. Because you've been out there yourself, you'll know this as well as I do. So I've got a friend that lives in Texas. He used to live just around the corner from me. He's since moved to the States, been a resident there for decades now. He's got a black wife, a black child, and he's the first to say that Trump isn't a racist.

33:57He said, but he said the press over there will do their damnedest best to make Trump look a fool. they constantly try and smear him and make him look ridiculous and it obviously filters back through the BBC and that's why people over here have got a negative opinion of him although I think most people think he's got skin like a rhino and he's a strong leader and we could do with some of that I think it's improving here now but certainly when I took a positive position towards him I'm certainly very glad I hired the ex-editor of the News of the World to handle my incoming. I would say that Trump is the most intelligent political leader that we've had in America for certainly the last 100 years.

34:49His intelligence is off the charts. And what the media – he did it to them so many times that I'm amazed they never worked it out. But he would say something, and they would attack him for saying this thing. And then he would double down, and they would attack him for saying that, and then he would triple down. And what should have been, from the media's point of view, they really wanted to kill him. They should have ignored it. They ended up giving him, I think we worked it out, an extra$2 billion worth of name recognition publicity by him understanding how to take, he was like a sort of a jujitsu master where you throw them with their own energy.

35:36I've never seen anybody play the media in that way. And he did this. He's used this technique in geopolitics. He's used it certainly during his campaigning. The intelligence is off the charts. I think people in England are starting to see. Through the nonsense. Yeah, they're starting to see through it. People on the left would love to lambast him and accuse him of being thick. You don't become the president of the United States by being thick. I mean, that's thick to think that. Try making money in New York real estate being thick. I mean, try surviving in New York real estate. Try surviving in big business in America.

36:22Try grabbing people by the pussy being thick. Well, I think it's arguable as to whether he ever did that. But I mean, yes, it was an interesting choice of words. But, you know, he has most certainly changed the political landscape forever. Politics will never be the same in America. I don't think politics will ever be the same here. I mean, funnily enough, I was up at the reform rally or conference yesterday. How did that go? Because Lucy Connolly was speaking, weren't she? She did a great job. I wanted to talk because we laugh about free speech, but well, we laugh about freedom of thought and thought crime.

37:07I think what Lucy Connolly done was a thought crime because there was the caveat of for all I care. So with Lincoln in the reform event you went to, Lucy Connolly speaking there, being jailed for her thoughts and Trump being an advocate for free speech and our free speech being under attack. Let's try and tile that in. How did the event go? What are your thoughts on Lucy Connolly? And what's the consequence of free speech being removed from our society? Well, to be honest with you, I'd never been to a political actual rally before because I'm not really a sort of a rally attender. I tend to sort of do things quietly myself.

37:50So I couldn't really compare it to any other political rally or conference. But what I would say was that the energy there was superb, the positive optimism, the people there. It was about as grassroots of a public as you could possibly get in England. And a lot of people that were there were not the people that would usually get involved, I would say, in politics. It was a fresh and very vibrant crowd. Lucy was amazing. and, you know, she highlighted, she started a debate, she highlighted the debate. The other person who was amazing there was actually Dr. Asim Malhotra and he pointed out and again highlighted some of the harms that vaccines may have done.

38:47And it was very, very interesting to see a mainstream effectively, I mean, because one can't describe reform as anything other now than a mainstream political party, because based on the polling, they're going to have a majority in the next election.

39:04to see a mainstream political party acknowledging which what most of us have all known for well actually years now is that those mRNA vaccines potentially are lethal and have harmed a number of people. I think that it was a very very superlative conference and I think Nigel

39:35has done something, again, that is completely and utterly historic. But there's no question of the Trump influence. There's no question that, you know, politics over here is now crossing over into, you know, aspects of the entertainment business, aspects of the celebrity world. you know it was quite interesting to see that you know Jacob Rees-Mogg turned up there Lord Ashcroft was there and clearly these are cornerstones of the conservative party but they couldn't resist being at the reform convention just simply because they wanted to be around what it was and well who knows maybe they'll join the ranks we don't know but And it was just very, very interesting to see what is happening.

40:31And I think that Lucy, I think the whole country really on the whole felt that, you know, surely, yes, she did tweet something that was completely and utterly inappropriate at the time. But again, this goes back to our point. when people's emotions get riled they will do things and frankly i think a tweet that technically breaks the law is the least of our worries when it comes to um you know what people are capable of when when when things happen so i was pleased yesterday i was very very pleased i went because very often you see stuff on social media you don't actually you know meet the various different characters and I had an opportunity to meet uh you know I'd never actually met Zia Yousef before and I was interested to meet him you know and I was interested to see you know there's no question in my mind he is sincere in his way and I know that you know a A number of people have had difficulties in digesting him and so and so forth.

41:47But I got to see the goodness in him and I got to see how he is interacting with reform. And, you know, you see a lot when you actually go to a place and you break bread with people and you talk to them. Life is a different experience to seeing something in the press or online or reading a soundbite. It's very different to X. Zia Youssef has actually blocked me on Twitter with what's now known as X. I don't think he's a big fan. But again, I want to hold people to account. And I was very dubious as to anyone that can get a colleague arrested, I potentially want them sent to jail for some crosswords in the parliament hallway.

42:33I think, what's all that about? How can we trust a man like that? I mean, if Rupert couldn't trust him and they were colleagues, how the hell can we trust him? Well, this is a very, very – I mean, it's an interesting discussion to have because I was with Rupert for dinner the night that Elon Musk tweeted out Rupert. Saying Nigel wasn't fit for the job. Right. Do you remember that? Yes. I don't think that that division is necessary. And I believe that the goodness of all of these people, whether it is Zia, Ben, Rupert. I genuinely believe that all of them in their own way want to do something about the horror show that we are all witnessing in our country right now.

43:19There's a lot of ego on the right in there. I'm afraid there is. That's a shame. I'm afraid there is. And that's one of the reasons we bought Camelot Castle. And I am not a natural hotelier. I just went for a walk one day And I saw it up on the headland And I said, my God That's mine Yeah It was literally It was literally It was literally a 45 minute decision I walked in the front door There was a little old man there And I said, do you know the owners? And he said, I might do I said, they live around here He said, they might do I said, you haven't thought about selling this place, have you? I said, you're the owner, aren't you?

43:56He said, as a matter of fact, I am, dear I was thinking about this afternoon Anyway, we had a drink in the bar and anyway, the reason was because I always knew that Camelot Castle is an icon. You know, the table, the round table that we have in our Great Hall is round for a reason. And I don't believe that there is a problem on earth with anybody that cannot be solved by communication. It's key. Now, it takes skill. It takes willingness to talk to people that you hate. You know. It takes willingness to listen to ideas that you completely and utterly disagree with. But that's the only solution.

44:45And you have to find something in the other fellow to admire. And so my role, I am not particularly involved with any political party. I see individuals and if I like somebody well then I will see what I can do to help that person on the basis of friendship and so I don't really uh you know I've been hounded for the last two months lots of people saying to me you must run for to be an mp or something like this I mean you've got a very nice calm aura so I can see that you would be a good mediator and a voice of reason I mean, I can never see Rupert Lowe forgiving Zia Yusuf for getting him nicked.

45:29I think that's probably... I think that could be a tough one. But never say never. I admire you. Never say never. I wouldn't forgive him. No, no. And it's very easy to be this sort of expecting everybody else to forgive each other, you know. There's a line, isn't there? There is a line. There is a line. There is a line. But I happen to know just how patriotic Rupert is. and for him it's an eternal purpose. It's not something that I think is a last five-minute thing for him. I think he's been patriotic for a very, very, very long time indeed. And I have this belief that people that are truly patriotic in the quiet, dark night of the soul, they find a way to put their patriotism and their duty above their personal discomfort.

46:25And, you know, I spoke to Rupert virtually daily when this was going on. And it was awful when the, you know, these various different things happened. And I didn't like it at all. But I always understood that it is an anomaly of the political system that people find themselves in situations like that. And I would hope that there was a way that for the good of the country, that there can be some type of workable unity that doesn't destroy what everybody's trying to do. Some kind of line in the sand. There's got to be. There's got to be. And I say that, you know, in relation to all the various different patriotic groups there.

47:18I don't need to like you to work with you because that's the goal. being effective together. There is a way. My certainty, and it's a certainty I live with, is that any disagreement or any conflict can be ended. What I always do is I look for the hidden third party that stirred it up in the first instance. And I use something called the third party law. And it's a very, very interesting observation of life. It's something I learned some time ago, if ever you have a conflict where originally two people were getting on and then they stopped getting on, very often you find that there is a hidden third party that has been in the ear of one person or in the ear of the other person or simultaneously in the ear of both that profits in some way either financially or in some way that they perceive they're profiting for those two people not to be in communication.

48:17And if it is impossible to restore the affinity between those two people that originally were getting on, then there is always a third party at work. And so what I do in helping to resolve conflicts is I get people to look for the hidden third party. And it is one of the most powerful tools. It can resolve a relationship that's not going well. It can resolve disputes between companies. And you do notice that there are people that profiteer. It's the cause of war actually. I mean most of the wars that we're witnessing at the moment have been created by individuals or groups that are profiteering let's say from a perceived advantage that they see in the conflict.

49:09whether that's through, you know, weaponry sales or you saw it with, we see it a lot with pharma. The classic one, of course, is chemical imbalance in the brain, which is the biggest load of rubbish ever. But more drugs have been sold to more unsuspecting people by convincing them that there is such a thing as a chemical imbalance in the brain. It can't be measured. Never has been measured. There's no proof for it. It was an advertising slogan come up with in Medicine Avenue. and more people have been stuck on antidepressants because they've been told that they've got a chemical imbalance in the brain.

49:45Well, this is the actions of a very, very active third party because the harm that that does in the world, and that's one of the reasons a lot of people do come and see us at Camelot. They know that, number one, I'm not judgmental in any way. I've sort of heard it all. There's nothing you could say to me about your life that would surprise me because I've just, as probably you've been around the block, one has been around the block too. We've heard it all. But you wouldn't even be surprised if one day Rupert Lowe and Zia Yusuf are sharing a brandy and Rupert says, remember that time you got me arrested, you swine?

50:22Yeah. I've seen far worse situations resolve, let's put it that way. Far, far worse situations resolve. One of the funniest things about my Trump story, I will tell you this. Perhaps I've not mentioned it before. But do you remember there was that time when Trump was supposed to be meeting Kim Jong-un and he was sort of calling him Rocket Man and anyway, he cancelled the first meeting by tweet. I get a call from a North Korean. I'd never met a North Korean. And they said, well, can we come and see you at Camelot Castle because you're the only person that understands Trump because we saw you put a bet on him.

51:04What they say, we just can't work him out. We can't work him out. No. They said, well, come down. So this little, you know, North Korean fellow came down with his other friend from South Korea. And he said, we just want you to explain this to us. And they filmed it. How would you explain Trump? A lovable narcissist? He appreciates himself. This episode is brought to you by PayPal. You know how a mom's bag has everything? Sunscreen. Snacks. a stapler the new paypal app is like that but for your money shop pay manage your account and earn rewards all in one place and with purchase protection on eligible items biometric security and pass keys you're protected at every step download the new paypal app to get started see paypal.com protection terms this message is brought to you by apple card with apple card You earn unlimited daily cash back on everyday purchases, like groceries, merch, or tickets to the game.

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52:29That's one way of putting it. But we need a leader that appreciates himself. I appreciate myself. I mean, I'm sure you appreciate yourself. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of self-love. No. So anyway, they came down to Camelot and we had this sort of filmed interview. And I just tried to explain. I said, listen, if Trump says he wants a cup of tea, that's what he wants. He wants a cup of tea. He doesn't want a cup of coffee. He doesn't want a cup of tea slightly altered from what the tea expects. He just is a simple fellow. And he has the ability to frame extremely complicated issues in total simplicity.

53:13And the Korean fellow goes, I get you. I can't do the Korean accent. But he says, I totally get you. We have the same in the hills in North Korea. Our wise men are very simple and they're a few words. And I said, yes, that's the type of wisdom that you're dealing with. It is a deep spiritual wisdom. And one of the things I did, funnily enough, is during the 2015 campaign I wanted to find out and really perceive spiritually who Trump was. and I found out that his mother, who was very close to him, he was much closer to his mother than his father, was born in the village of Tong just outside Stornoway.

54:03I don't know if you know where that is. It's in the Outer Hebrides. Oh, really? It's in the Outer Hebrides. And so I decided to fly up to the village of Tong and visit the croft that she was born on. she was born on a hebridean croft because i thought if you understand where somebody's mother comes from you can really gain an understanding of who that person is so i flew the whole family up there i mean

54:33we got this little rickety old airplane into into storn away and we went and we took a look at this croft and we just sort of were there did you know at the time what you were doing was slightly mental Well, I would say it was in-depth research. It was thorough. Thorough. Did you know at the time that it was thorough? Yes, I did feel I was being thorough. But funnily enough, it turns out that his mother was deeply religious, and she was part of what is called the Hebridean revival, which was a revival of Christianity. And I discovered when I was there that there was a priest that started the Hebridean revival who had an altar boy called Donald.

55:22And he gave that altar boy a Bible and that altar boy gave that Bible to Trump's mother. And that was the Bible that he was sworn in on when he became president of the United States. Wow. And it is the most extraordinary spiritual journey of, it's a great Christian story. It's a great story of faith. And when I met President Trump shortly after he was inaugurated, the impression I got is I was dealing with a deeply, deeply spiritual soul. And this is where people miscompute with him. And his wife is ethereal to a whole other level. I mean, you get into her space, and you just know that you are in the presence of something very, very connected to the divine.

56:18She is an ethereal being. And it is a very, very interesting thing. And people don't think with that. And when people go to see him, they don't think with that. And it was interesting. When he came to visit Her Late Majesty, I corresponded with her and I explained this aspect of his character to Her Majesty and she was extremely appreciative. She responded to you? Yeah. So you've actually had correspondence with the Queen? Yes. Well, I wanted them to get on well because they were all attempts by the media to say, well, Trump is not going to get on with Her Majesty. There's going to be a problem and so on and so forth.

57:03And so I worked quite hard And before he met Her Majesty, he knew all the pet names of her corgis. And it is them little touches that count. Well, I think it is. The observation. Yeah, it is. Taking the time to be interested. Yeah. And she knew that she was dealing with a deeply Christian soul in him and in Melania. and as you know head of the church of england and as somebody who is deeply christian herself um i thought that was extremely important for her to to understand and i'm sure that um well i know it was appreciated and it's a very very uh valuable thing to be able to help to orient somebody as to who the other fellow is because what is the message of media?

57:56What is the, oh, if you had to break down into a simplicity, how is it that the media divides us? Well, the essential essence of it is that other fellow over there, he's bad. He's dangerous. It's trying to convince us constantly that the other fellow is a threat. Whereas the truth of the matter is the other fellow generally, when you get into communication with them is probably all right. Now, there are definitely exceptions that disprove the rule. But on the whole, other people are frankly just they love their children just as much as we do, you know. And so I think to counter that and to point out how the media acts actually as a constant third party on our lives.

58:52Very toxic. It's extremely toxic. It's not good for your state of mind. No. And if you didn't have a chemical imbalance before, you will have now. Yes, exactly. You're exactly right. You're exactly right. Do you know what? And I've lost count of many people that have sat opposite me now. It's been a hell of a journey. That Trump story is one of the most fascinating stories that I've been told since I started this podcast. And I thought when you took off with the story, I thought, this guy's a madman. But look what happened as a result of your thoroughness. But what I want to do is I want to wrap this up on that note.

59:31Well, there's actually one more thing that's important. So don't go anywhere, people watching and listening. There was a lot of things I didn't cover with you, but I think it would spoil a great conversation. And I think we can cover it in a part two in six months down the line because it's not something that needs to be discussed now. Very interesting. And it will give the audience something to look forward to. And you and me. Yeah. And we can grab some lunch. But that was fascinating. And I've also very much enjoyed this conversation. Yeah. And more time's gone by than you probably realise. But you brought me something.

1:00:04It's not often I'm brought a gift. You brought me a gift. And I said, well, can you save that for the interview? Because give it the context. And tell me the reason why you brought it. I've seen now a number of your podcasts. And the thing that strikes me about you, Liam, is that you are bringing unity to this country. And for several years now at Camelot Castle, we have been designing a sculpture in order to express the essence of Camelot, which essentially is friendship and unity and getting people together in order to facilitate positive communication. And a few days ago, I received back from the refinery, the smelter, this brass sculpture of what we call friendship into eternity.

1:01:06And I'm just going to show it to you here. I can hold that up to the camera if you like. Yeah, if you can hold that up. And this is now mine. This is yours. This is a gift. And I'm extremely grateful for that. And the sentiment behind that is very, very special. So there's two friends there in the middle here. So, yeah, explain that more in depth. Well, you can see there there's two friends sort of arm in arm, and one of them is sort of pointing to the future. And you'll notice that they're in a circle. The circle represents friendship. But you'll notice that the circle itself is not perfect. It's an elliptical circle.

1:01:40And the reason for that is that no friendship is perfect, no individual is perfect, no group is perfect. But the real skill in friendship and, you know, when you park yourself at Camelot Castle and you live the sort of life that one lives, and I'm sure most people could make this observation, we can all go out there and buy this knick-knack or other knick-knacks. and some people like yachts, some people like supercars, some people like airplanes, all sorts of things. They sort of feel that it's going to satiate themselves. But one of the things that had interested me is what is real wealth? Because we talk about rich people and we talk about poor people, but what is real wealth?

1:02:33To me, if you have one friend that you can count on one hand, you're a wealthy person. If you've got five, you're in the super rich. And so many people in this world can't even say they're friends to themselves. They're actually doing themselves a disservice daily. And so the importance of friendship and the strengthening of the bonds of friendship is the essence of what we are trying to do. And as this came out of the foundry last week, I thought, what a more appropriate gift to give it to you, Liam, because what you are doing is you are creating friendship by what you do. You're creating unity.

1:03:19And I would like that to be a reminder to you when you look at it. Or the basic idea, united we stand, divided we fall. Well, I'm going to tell you something that might blow your mind. And I want the audience to believe me as well. I'm not just saying this and I will show you on my phone off camera. That made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, your words. So this will be getting aired before the 13th of September when the kingdom will unite in our capital. And this morning, I've gone to my notes because I'm going to speak on stage. and I'm thinking, well, I'm not a politician, so I'm not going to give a big political speech and I want to make it short and punchy like I would a viral clip on Instagram.

1:04:06And I titled it, and this is as far as I've got, Unite the Kingdom, September 13th, be a better friend. Wow. I promise you on my mother's life and I will show you it on my phone. But now the hairs on the back of my neck are going because I'm like... I'm tempted to grab the phone just to prove a point. Do you think you could grab my phone, Si? because I could easily say that to you and it not be true. And this wasn't scripted. I didn't know he was going to bring this. I didn't know the significance of it. And this morning, here we go. My phone's going to be passed to me now just to prove a point.

1:04:44I'm going to go to my notes. Notes. UTK.

1:04:53What does that say, John? be a better friend. That's the first line of my speech that I'm going to say on stage, to be a better friend. You see... Now, that is insane. Well, you see, people talk about power the whole time, don't they? And most people have a gross misunderstanding of what power is. Some people think it's the ability to exert force. So a warlord would consider that, you know, if you can smite another man's army. but of course force is a very temporal thing when you're dealing with immortal beings which of course in our own way we all are and friendship you see if you really look at what is the true definition of power the fundamental of power is friendship how many friends do you have and the fundamental of friendship is help so a friend is somebody who you help and who helps you and to me it's one of the most important things in life am i i'm massive on friendship well huge yeah so this is that's unbelievable when you tie in with that this morning and i've proved it that's what a way to end the podcast wow i mean i i mean the hairs on the back of my neck were going as well liam this has been i don't know where the time has gone this has almost been like a timeless conversation because I'm sure we've been rattling along.

1:06:20And there's plenty more where that's going on as well. So on that note, I'm going to thank you implicitly. I've thoroughly enjoyed that. Thank you so much. I'm grateful of my gift. And the way that's all linked in, that will stay with me forever. Well, by all means, share that symbol. Share that message. You know, it's your own anyway. You know, you were there already. That's mine. And that's yours. and it's a great pleasure. It's called Friendship into Eternity and if we can all just do a little bit every day to help our friends, I think the world will be in a better place. It's a friendship, John.

1:06:58Good health, sir. Thank you, mate. All the best. Thank you.

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