Pakistani PERVERTS: Muslim Man Exposes His Own Community For Abusing Children

21:41But for me, I live in Saudi Arabia, and I grew up with Canadians, Americans, Europeans, British people, Australians. A lot of them were non-Muslims. A lot of them were atheists, Christians. We didn't have a problem with that. We used to sit and eat in the same plate. I still, at 38, they are still my friends. They're actually my best friends. And believe it or not, a lot of the British white people, they're still in Saudi Arabia while I'm here in the UK. They don't want to come back. So the problem that I see here is in UK, the Pakistanis that you've got, they are Mirpuris. So Mirpuris came here in the 1960s and the 50s when the immigration thing was open and they were like, oh, you know what, just come here, try to help us build Britain and all that.

22:21So these people came in because these people are not even wanted in Pakistan. So the Mirpuris that you have here, the second, third generation, are the lowest of the low, right? And that's where the people that was welcomed in the UK in the 1950s and 60s. And then they brought in their cousins. So when the Pakistani say, oh, well, it's not really a problem in Pakistan. No, it is. It is 100 % problem, a Pakistani problem, a culture problem, because it's the Mirpuris who are doing it. So the 95 % of the Pakistanis who were born in the UK, whose parents have been in the UK for many, many years, and grandparents, they're all Mirpuris.

22:57I'm from Karachi. I'm from a city. So for me, the Mirpuris, when we see them, we look at them and we're like, you know what? Yeah, we don't want to deal with them. These people are in breaths. These people are the lowest of the low. So that's what you have. So yes, there is a problem. And the gang thing, the gang thing that they do, believe it or not, I have never heard about them doing this in a gang. They do it in Pakistan, but they will do it individually. So in Pakistan, they will go and rape their sisters, young sisters, their cousins, their own brothers. It happened all the time. And I'll just take it back to the place when I just said, when I was sexually harassed in the Madrasa.

23:33So I spoke to somebody in the mosque in the UK and I told them what has happened. You know what they said? They laughed it off and they said, oh, well, you know what? It happened to everybody. And I looked at them and I I said, you're telling me it happened to everybody. So, of course, you are aware of the problem that we have in, not in a Christian school, not in a Jewish school, not in a school school, in the madrasa, in the Islamic school. It's a Muslim school. So we have a problem there, which you have just said to me, oh, well, it's okay. It's fine. It happens anyway. So it's absolutely fine.

23:58So how does that work? They just laughed it off. So when I see these Pakistanis coming out and saying, oh, deflection, they do that. Or what about the Christian grooming? Or what about the white rivers? And like you rightfully said, this is a white country. We live in the UK. So yes, there are going to be more people of that country in that country. But when you have Pakistanis en masse going out, and like I said, it's such a shameful thing. And I'm deeply embarrassed because I'm a Pakistani. I'm so embarrassed that this is 2026 now, and there are Pakistanis still sitting there and deflecting.

24:34We haven't done anything. Like the Pakistani community itself, it's shameful for them because they haven't come out and say, you know what? yes, we have a problem. We've been seeing it for many, many years. It's not a new problem. It's a very old problem. So they didn't come out like me and say, you know what, we need to stop this. Let's call these people out. Let's get these people deported. They don't belong here. They should not be here, right? And they don't do that. Instead, I get the police turned up to my house. I get the contrarian police to my house. I put in jail. You know, they make my life upside down with all of these things.

25:05So I, when I say it is a problem with the Pakistani culture, They're driven by the religion, 100 % it is, because they will find something in that book to justify what we have done. Oh, we have done it because they're non-Muslim, so what? So for me, people ask me this, oh, well, you're a Muslim as well. Why don't you go around and do it? For me, Liam, if I was born in my neighbor's house, I would have been a Christian because my neighbor was a Christian in Saudi Arabia. So if I was born in my neighbor's house, I would have been a Christian. So I, you, me, or anybody, we cannot have a say in when we are born.

25:34Like, you know, you are just born anyway, to be honest. But we do have a say, and if you are a good human being. You know, because Muslims come out, oh, we are a Muslim before anything. I don't say that. I say I'm a human being before anything else. So if you are a kind and nice human being, I'll treat you the same way. It doesn't, I never ask a lot of my friends what religion they are. Do they drink? Do they eat pork? It doesn't bother me. It's irrelevant to me. So yes, unless these mirpuris decide that they want to do something about it, it's not going to happen. But unfortunately, I have seen from experience as well, these people will never change.

26:07So the only solution that I see, and like I said, this is my opinion, it's an opinion that I have come after talking to people, after trying to get the Pakistanis to come to the straight line and say, you know what, this is wrong, we shouldn't be doing it. The only solution that I see, the Pakistanis was given the British nationality and they are involved in this. And when I say involved, there are a lot of their wives, their sisters, their friends, they know what these people are getting up to, but they decide to stay quiet. And I don't blame them, but at the same time, they need to get up and say, you know what?

26:36Yes, my husband has done this. Please put him into jail. These people need to be exiled from the UK. They shouldn't be here. There is a treaty between Pakistan and UK. I don't know why they don't use it. The treaty is you can very easily transfer a Pakistani criminal, especially if they're immigrant like me. And if they commit a crime, you can very easily transfer them back to Pakistan. But unfortunately, we have ECHR that jumps in and say, you know what? So what if they're a rapist? You know, so what if they don't understand your culture? Well, if you don't understand the culture, why are you here?

27:04You don't need to be here. You know, take your culture, the one that you like, and just go to whichever place you find it easy to adjust. What are your thoughts on remigration on a whole? And are you for or against remigration first and foremost? To be honest, I'm for remigration. And I'll tell you, I'll give you, I'll tell you my reason. I know a lot of people say, oh, well, you're an immigrant. Guess what? You're going to the first plane back. Yeah, and if you was in charge, how would you roll out the remigration process? Yeah, well, so for remigration, the reason why I said I'm for it, because I lived in Saudi Arabia 28 years of my life.

27:39My father is a citizen in Saudi Arabia, more than 40 years. He worked there. He don't know anything other than Saudi Arabia. Like I don't know anything other than Britain or Saudi Arabia first. But now I live in the UK. So for us growing up in Saudi Arabia, we were told that you will always be a foreigner. They don't give us it. I still got a Pakistani passport. Like I said, I've lived in Pakistan, I've been to Pakistan, but I have given a Pakistani passport because Saudi Arabia do not give you nationalities. And Saudi Arabia also says that you are coming to this country to work. We are giving you money, yes.

28:08And we give you a good lifestyle. You can buy things, which surely you can't do it back home. That's why you come into Saudi Arabia. So we were told anytime the Saudis, the Arabs can get up and say, you know what, we don't want you guys here. Get out. And we lived, I grew up in that mentality. So for me, remigration. So if you're telling me that I've been here 10 years, more than 10 years, you know, I try and speak as good English as I can because English is not my first, not my second, but my third language because I speak Urdu, Arabic, and then English. So if somebody were to say to me that, you know what, we want you to leave because, you know, from here, I will most definitely pack up and leave.

28:44I'm not going to stay here and fight. Do I have a plan B to go somewhere else? I don't. Do I want to go somewhere else? I don't, absolutely not. Because if anything, in the last 11, 12 months what has happened to me, I would have already been gone, but I haven't. And I would also say, yes, I do have my wife who's white British. Her daughter is also a specialist. She's also white British. I wouldn't say, oh yeah, just because they are white British, I get to stay with them. No, because we are married now. And if I'm getting deported from the UK, I probably go and I, you know, we go as a family.

29:14I wouldn't use that. But I know this. And my thinking is this way, because I grew up in a way, which I know my father has been in Saudi Arabia for 40 years, but he tells me even today, he said to me, look, they can call me anytime. They can say, you know what? We don't need your services anymore. Thank you very much. You may leave now. And he'll have to leave. So in that sense, I would say if it was down to me, I would honestly look at anybody and everybody who have committed any crime. And I'm talking about any crime whatsoever. And I'm going to say, you know what? You have to go. It doesn't matter.

29:43You're a British citizen. I get that, but you have to go. You know, my father gave this example a lot of time. If you're a donkey and you paint your donkey with white stripes, it doesn't become a zebra. The same way, you know, if I was born, I'm going to say I'm British. And that is a totally different conversation, which I'm not, I don't think I'm qualified to have the conversation because I wasn't born here. I know a lot of people who are born here, they feel like they're British, so that's good. But my thinking is, even though my brothers were born in Saudi Arabia, they're not Arabs, they're not Saudis, they are Pakistanis.

30:13But that is what I grew up with. So yeah, my thinking will be different. And as I said, for re-migration, I've said it many, many times before if the white british people you know liam people like you people like tommy robinson if you guys were to come out and say you know what we want yes thank you very much for what you have done we carry your patriot to the uk but we would like you to leave i will leave where i'm gonna go i don't know i don't have a plan b my my home is the uk i love this country more than anything else so but i will go i will go but this is how much i love the country you know i'm ready to destroy myself and i'm already doing it like literally right now as you see me sat here i have destroyed everything, 10 years worth of savings, all my cars, all my assets, everything sold.

30:50I've got zero penny in my account, but I'm still doing it. And this is the love. You know, when you say when you're in love, you do stupid things because you don't think clearly. That's your love outweighs your own thing. You know, you might destroy yourself in the process. So that's what I would do. So as far as remigration goes, if you're a foreign criminal or you don't contribute, your policy would be you go back to where you came from. Even if you're a British citizen, but if you're a criminal, you are going to go back to your country of heritage, yes. Yeah, I can't see anybody arguing with that.

31:16What about Muslim MPs? Do you think Islam belongs in British Parliament? Absolutely not. And why? Absolutely not. Because for me, like I said, I'm an outsider, right? When you ask me questions, I'm looking at how I used to look at England, how I was looking at UK when I was in Saudi Arabia. Like I said, I grew up with Europeans. I grew up with Canadians, Americans, Australians and English. And out of all these people, the most kindest, the most tolerant, the most amazing people were the British people. The best of friends that I've got, even till today, are the British people from London. So when I look at the white people, the white British people, right?

31:52I see excellence. I look at white British people and I get hopeful because it is the white British people who've done magic by creating all these things. The internet was created by white British people. And the penicillin after operation that you take if you're in pain, that also is done by the white British people. So, you know, when I look at the white British people, it's all about excellence. So if I would like to see anybody other than white Brits in the parliament, I would say no. Islam is also, because if you look at the countries like Afghanistan, you look at countries like Pakistan, they both are hellholes.

32:25You know, there is no equality. There is no help. These people do absolutely nothing for the people. It's all religion driven. And I don't think politics, and I say this, UK is a Christian country because a lot of the British values are driven by Christianity. Some of them are tolerance, be kind to your neighbours and all of these things. So with that, I would say no, no, I would not want to have anybody in the British Parliament, not only if they're Muslim, even if they're foreign, like, you know, like me as well. Or if there is somebody who says, oh, you know what, I'm an ex-Muslim, but I'm not white.

32:58I would say leave the British Parliament, the UK Parliament to the white British people. Because as far as I know, with any Muslim, which is their prerogative, No matter what, it's Islam first Everything second, third, fourth Exactly So that does concern me Having MPs that would put their faith first Before the benefit of the country And the people within Be honest Would you ever fuck your own cousin? No I wouldn't, I wouldn't I wouldn't even marry somebody Who is a Pakistani Do you know what I mean? Like my wife is white British It's got nothing to do with Oh, do I like I like everybody What if she was a 10?

33:36Oh, she can be an 11 I'll still be like Thank you very much You're my sister Why is it so prominent Is it within your religion Or is it within your culture? I think it is more culture Because with the religious thing It goes a bit widespread Because you've got You've got Muslims Who are from You know, different They might be Indians They might be Bengalis They might be white as well You know, some of them Who convert There's a lot of debate At the moment About cousin marriage And I think I would say no I think Labour are pushing it I think Labour are quite happy With cousins marrying And fornicating Which we know about the birth defects, to me, it's totally outrageous, which is why I asked it in such an outrageous form.

34:10No, no, no, that's fine. That's fine. You're absolutely right because it is a very concerning topic. And I know it has been highlighted everywhere. Yeah, for me, cousin marriage is no, no. I absolutely disagree with it. Not only that, imagine you're growing up with your cousin because you're a child. She might be younger than you, right? You're not going to look at a child and be like, oh, you know what? That girl, when she grows up, I'm going to, that is wrong. I If I Like for me How I met my wife Is I was out shopping in B &M And she was there shopping as well So I went up to her Right Like a gentleman And I said Can you help me with something And she said yeah I'll help you And then I said you know what Actually I don't need help But I think you're really pretty Is it okay if I can take you out on a date And if you say no Okay that's fine I'll just go She said yeah you can take me out on a date We went on dates And then we got married Like this is what I think the process should be It shouldn't be Oh yeah because I know somebody It's I'm sorry to say this And I'm not putting anybody down while saying this.

35:01But I feel like it's a lot of losers that they say, oh, you know what? It's easy because she's my cousin. I'm not married. And the problem that you've got with the cousin marriage with the Pakistanis and Bengalis in the UK, and I'll tell you how this happens. These people, unfortunately, they're a loser and they have made themselves a loser by creating a little community within the UK. So what these Pakistanis have done when they came here, they didn't integrate. They didn't assimilate. What they said, they said, you know what? We are coming from Pakistan. We're leaving this hellhole behind for me if I'm leaving a hellhole again I'll leave it there but they brought it with them and they said oh we're going to create our little hellhole in here as well so that way we've got oh we can remember that hellhole it should have never ever been like that it should be you're coming to the UK you live by British values if you don't like it please go it's fine I'm sure they can find a lot of other people to work and you know build Britain and whatnot so anyways they these now Pakistanis and Bengalis when they've got a British passport and they've lived their 20-25 years of their life.

35:57They got no girlfriend because they're so close-minded. They're just, you know, just stupid people there. And then they will go back to their home country. And what they will do, they will bring out the passport. They will look at their cousins who's going through a very bad time in a shithole country like Pakistan. And they said, do you want this? Do you know what we do? And they show their fake cars. Oh, we got these cars. We got this amazing house. Even though they're living on benefits, how hard it is to get a BMW or a Mercedes. It's easy. In Pakistan, they see the BMW the girls they're like you know what yeah I hate him this guy's an ugly but you know what I can marry him I can go to the UK I can get my passport I can divorce him how many marriages cousin marriages they end up in divorce it's either divorce after five years or it is divorce as soon as the woman gets pregnant and she gives birth to the child the moment she's given birth to the child that's it the kid is British and that way the woman can claim a family that oh I've got a family son is British I can't go back to Pakistan they leave the husband straight away I have seen numerous cases not only that I have seen people that have actively said oh do you know anybody who's British that we can marry to we can get married to and I'm like just find somebody you know in your own place why do you need to find oh so we can get out of so this is the reason why they're pushing the Muslim MPs the reason why they push the cousin marriage is because of this because they are losers nobody will talk to them here because people know what they are like but if you've got somebody internationally who've never met, they meet them once a year or maybe twice a year.

37:24They don't know how these people are. They don't know what kind of animals these Pakistanis and these Bengalis are. But when they go back, they show the passport, and the women are like, yeah, we'll come back. And that's why they get one, two, three, four wives as well. This is how they get it. In a normal day, if the UK says no cousin marriage, the people are talking about four wives and this and that, they won't even have one wife. This is how pathetic these people are. And that's why Unfortunately They push this agenda Towards the gingers Can I say ginger? Is that okay? Yeah you can It's not like the ginger You can say anything you like on it A.

37:59Nothing offends me And B. I want to hear What people are thinking Irrespective of how Gratuitous or graphic Or prejudiced it is I don't care Like nothing bothers me Or phases me I try to be polite as well So that's why I said I got ginger cousins So I understand I just asked you If you'd fuck your cousin So you can fire back As much as you like Yeah I wouldn't Literally I wouldn't What about Would you sleep with a young girl that's just had her first period? Say she was between 6 and 12. I don't care. No, never. I think because I'm 38 now, I probably wouldn't sleep with anybody who's under 30.

38:28Well, I'm married now, happily married, so no. But no, but like in reality, I don't know how these people look at somebody who have that much of an age gap, let alone looking at a 6, 7, 8, 9-year-old child and saying, oh, you know what, actually, yeah. No, for me, these are kids. Or say from 9 to 14, would you think that was fair game? No. Because a lot of Islamic preachers, and all you've got to do is type this in Google, this isn't make-believe, a lot of them will say if they consider the girl to be physically and mentally ready, i.e. she's had her first period, then a fully grown man, be it 30 years older, can actually penetrate her sexually.

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40:32Like, when I hear these preachers and everybody talk about it, I've always been against them. I have actually gone up to them. There have been numerous spaces. I'm sure a lot of them are recorded where they've asked me the same question and they were preachers. They said, oh, well, we are allowed to. I said, I don't care. That's barbaric. This is like you're acting like animals. Whatever happened in the past, leave it there. We're not living in the past. We are here now. We are living in today. So in today, if you're asking me, I'm going to say no. No, you cannot do that. And the only way to correct this now is unfortunately these people are acting like animals.

41:06And not only is the Muslims, they're bringing in the new converts. Like I said, they bring in the jinjas because they're vulnerable. And they're bringing them in. And this is what they show to them. They're like, oh, you know what? Don't worry. None of the girls have ever spoken to you. You're in your 30s. You're not married. But come to the religion. We will find you a Muslim woman. Because there are plenty of Muslim women who are as brainwashed as the man. And he said, oh, you know what? I'll marry anybody because I'm doing it in the name of religion. You know, that's what they do. So to correct this, to correct this whole behavior, the way these lunatics are acting, because they're acting like animals, you have to treat them like animals.

41:44And by treating them like animals, I mean you need to put them in prison. It's not that, oh, they need to do that. No, no. If you are saying that you're okay with giving your daughter to somebody who's 50 years old because the religion says, guess what? You're not in a Muslim country, right? This is not a Muslim government. And this is the problem that we have with the British justice system. Unfortunately, like I said, when I was growing up, my father used to say this a lot. He used to say, if you want real justice, look at the British justice system. If you want to see the real good policing, look at the Scotland Yard.

42:20This is what I grew up with, right? An outsider. For me, my heroes were the British police officers. For me, the biggest justice system was the British justice system that I grew up. And I was like, you know what? If anything, I want to be part of that. I want to live with that. And that's why I'm here. So yeah, if they're going to act like animals, treat them like animals, start putting them in prison. If they as much as say that this is okay, guess what? You're going to prison. We don't care. But like I said, unfortunately, me saying this can lock me up, can lock you up. But anybody comes out and say, hey, I'm okay with a nine-year-old.

42:53Oh, it's fine. Because it's part of the religion, part of the culture. That's fine. You can't change that. So to the police officers as well, because unfortunately, I've noticed that police officers are actually called pigs. They call them pigs there as well. So I have thought the next time when police come and arrest me, I'll tell them I'm a Muslim and you're a pig, you can't touch me. Do you know what I mean? I thought I'll do that. Well, you know, unfortunately, this is what it's come down to. And as much as I'm trying to be positive, Liam, I'm trying to be very positive, but you've no idea, right?

43:24But what my wife have been through throughout all of this, and I just thought, I know I've messaged you and there are some very close people to me, they know about this, but because of the stress of what I am doing, my wife is not doing anything. Her problem is that she's married to me and everything that I'm doing, it has put my wife through so much stress that now she's going through cancerous treatment. So she's got cancerous cells developed and when we asked the doctor, how come all of a sudden she's got all this, they said it's all because of stress. Yeah, stress kills. Is your wife Muslim?

43:57My wife, yeah, she is Was she Muslim before she was with you? No, no, she was not When we were together, she was not Muslim When we got married, she was a Muslim But then she decided, oh, she would like to read up into it And I think, I'll be honest with you I think most of it, that she decided to become a Muslim Is because watching my mom and dad So when she saw my mom and dad, and I'm 38 I still love my mom and dad As if I was a two-year-old little child Because my father, when I see my father now If he says something, I look down And I say, okay, dad, okay, dad, yes, dad, yes You know, like, it's love, it's respect and love, yeah And the same with my mom I joke around with my mom a lot And she saw that And my mom wears a hat scarf She doesn't wear the whole thing She wears a hat scarf Because she lives in Saudi Arabia And that's the cultural thing And then she wears it She saw that And she saw me loving my mom so much She was like Oh you know what I would want you to respect me The same way you respect your mom And for that I'll do that She started doing that as well And I said no You don't need to take a hat scarf And all that So she doesn't wear a hat scarf or anything You know we go out We do I don't want to say what we do But yeah We are like open minded very progressive but your wife at one stage was wearing the hijab yeah yeah she wore it she wore it for like I think she wore it for a few months but then I said to her I said to her please you know I love you as I love my mum and everybody else and you know you are on the highest place for me in my heart but did it feel a little bit ridiculous yes okay and the burqa on the whole oh my god full face covering do you think do you think people should be allowed to cover their faces in the UK no I'll be honest with you burqa should be banned in the UK So you would ban the burqa?

45:27100%. 100%, 100%. And is it the woman's choice predominantly or is it normally the husband that says, I'd like you to wear the burqa because people are going to look at you? Okay, so this is interesting, right? It comes from a lot of, because I live in Saudi Arabia, I know women who wear the burqa and I know women who don't wear the burqa and I know the reason why some of the women wear the burqa. Let's go there. All right. So the women who wore burqas in Saudi Arabia, I'm talking about Saudi Arabia now, right? So a lot of them will be either married, but they will have affairs on the side with a different man or woman, whatever they're into.

45:59Or cousin. Maybe cousins. Well, cousin not that much, only because cousins will know that they're married and all that. But if they're having an affair with a different man and they go out with them in a different place and all that, when they're out with their husbands and if the other man doesn't know that she's married, she need to cover herself. Because when you see all of them covered, you don't know who is who. You can't tell. You know, they're all just like, it's like an umbrella woken by self, like a ghost. So you can't really tell who's who. so that was one of the reasoning why they would do it another reasoning was that um some girls that i knew that they they have um cheated on their husband they got caught before they were like you know not wearing a burka or anything but then they're like oh you know what i'm only for you and and they do put themselves in the position as well like you know i do get it there is that thing that they're forced to wear it yes don't get me wrong majority of the time they are forced yes but then these are some of the things that a lot of people don't know that she cheated on the husband and the husband caught her and they're like you know what i need divorce i don't want to be the child i want to know i'll change i'll change but look this is what i'm doing for you i'm fully covered nobody knows what's going on and that's another type of waiting for burqa and then the third type is that when you have insecure men right who have wives and they're like oh i don't want to talk into anybody i don't want to show in her face to the people what if she likes someone else well that's life if she likes someone else let her go You're not going to hold, they're not your animals that you're going to hold on to people.

47:18People, let's treat people as people. Let's not do that. The women in the UK, the one who wears the full hijab and the full burqa and all that, they are 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, are wearing it because they are, they have been told to wear it. How would a lot of Muslim men react to you being in favour of banning the burqa? Well, I've said it many times and I get death threats all the time. I don't care. The thing is, we don't live in a Muslim country. And not only that, like I said, I lived in Saudi Arabia. And even in Saudi Arabia, majority of places now, burqa is banned. So when you consider the threats you've had from fellow Muslims, your brothers, the imam, the mosque, the fact you don't agree with cousin marriage or having sex with a child once you've had her first period, and let's include the MI5 watch list, for example.

48:05There's over 40 ,000 Islamists on there. When you think of all of that in that one pot, does it not make you want to leave Islam? Well, I think with me, religion has always been between me and God. Like I said, you know, it's like it's never been, oh, Liam, I can't meet up with you because you're not a Muslim. And I know a lot of Muslims do that. You know, I have seen that as well. You know, when I meet up with somebody, I didn't say, oh, hey, I'm Shoaib, the Muslim. No, no, I say I'm Shoaib. That's it, a human being. And I never will ask you, oh, what's your religion? I never ask anybody what their religion is.

48:35I know people who I grew up with. And up until the age of 30, we didn't know what religion my friends were. because they knew I was a Muslim, but I never know. So for me, I think the only time it should be questioned if I'm going to leave the Islam or not, even I should question myself if I'm going to leave the Islam or not, when my life is either revolving around it or impacting every decision that I made, then yes, a lot of people who leave Islam are driven by the book. Everything that they do is, okay, you know what? The Quran says this, Islam says that, the Prophet is in this. I don't go by those things.

49:09Like I said to you earlier that I could have been born in anywhere, you know, I could have been a Christian, a Muslim, a Jew or anything. It doesn't matter. Am I a good human being? Do I have a good character? Am I there to be kind to people? You know, and like I said, I pick these things up from the British people, from the white British people. I never had them. So, yeah, no, I think leaving the Islam, it probably would be like the last thing that I would ever do if I ever do it. I'll give you an example. So, you know, I'm not a hypocrite. I suppose this is the nearest parallel I can find that will be very similar to you leaving Islam because you don't agree with the ideology.

49:43So my dad is a convicted rapist. I was one of his victims. He didn't rape me, but he abused me. I testified against him in the court of law, and I was part of him receiving 18 years. One of my greatest achievements is he can't harm anybody anymore, at least for a long, long, long, long time. I'm delighted with that. I changed my surname so I could escape and have no association with his ideology at all. So I essentially I left the family because I didn't agree with the family's morals or ideology. So that's why I ask you, because there's there's so much barbarianism within Islam. Just made me wonder, does it not make you think I've had enough of this ideology?

50:27I like Christianity. I'm in Britain. I'm going to leave. Well I don't know I've been offered There's a lot of pressure I'm putting on you To even answer that I know that Yeah no I know But like I said I would like to be honest I can see a Christian Sparkle in your eye Do you know what With a touch of atheist No no no I think I like to keep faith I believe in God That's the thing I do believe in God And like I said look People talk about the prophets And everything else I get it They said all They were the prophets But I think at the end of the day Human beings are human beings Yes If you have got a connection In God And you've got faith And everything else that's absolutely wonderful that's a different thing and for me I think that is faith because there are times when I don't find answers like you know what I'm going through my life right now with my wife's health with me having absolutely no job where I have to sell all my assets I've got nothing left under my name that I saved in 10 years being in the UK always had amazing jobs I haven't had a job since October 2024 when I got fired and we are in January 2026 so I haven't had a job the home office is sitting on my visa application so with everything that is going on obviously I don't have answers to anything You start to sound like a lefty.

51:28You haven't got a job sitting at home waiting for you. I know. Well, but this is the lefty is the reason why I'm doing this. But yeah, so I think with having no answer to all these things, I do sometimes, well, most of the time these days, I do close my eyes and just try to find the right thing to do. Is it safe to say then that if you weren't born a Muslim, there's little to no chance that as you got older, you would have ever converted to Islam? I don't think so. I think it would have been taking a hell, a lot of things. And like I said, when I'm seeing things now, like I said, you know, my wife, obviously, she has always supported me in everything.

52:07Like, obviously, she doesn't share my views. That's absolutely fine. But she supported me. Is she now more Muslim than you? No, she's not, actually. And I'll tell you the reason why, because it's the Muslims. The reason why she's not Muslim as much as they would think she would have been. No, because what she is seeing now, she's seeing everything hateful coming from the Muslim. I've been attacked by the Muslim community. There were no white ethno-nationalists who attacked me. There were absolutely nobody else. It's literally the Muslims, the converts, the gingers, the Muslims, you know, and the other ethnic different colors.

52:38None of the white Christians or Jewish people, none of them have attacked me. If anything, they have actually been nothing but kind to me. I know a lot of good Christian, white Christian people who have been nothing but absolutely kind to me, helped me in every way they could. Muslims haven't done that. So my problem have been with the Muslims. So when you see Muslims coming out and saying, oh my God, there is Islamophobia. Oh my God, there is racism. So see, for me, I don't know if you're going to agree with this or not, Liam, but for me, I don't think racism exists. Discrimination exists. Racism does not exist.

53:09So for me, imagine if there's a white girl that goes up to her and says, hey, look, I like you, give me a number. And she says, no, I don't want to give you my number. I'm not her type, that's it. I can't stand there, which a lot of Muslims and a lot of people of color do. Oh, well, you're a racist then. I'm not going to get your number guess what you're a racist so they cannot take no for an answer they can't take defeat they cannot you know they cannot believe that they are so incompetent victimhood victimhood they are slave to victimhood mentality they're absolutely not a thing so for me I don't believe racism exists Islamophobia is a fake word it should not be in the UK we should not be talking about Islamophobia let alone this being talked about in the parliament it shouldn't be here I'm a Muslim I never had no problems yeah but if you're going to act Like I said, if you're going to act like an animal back and forth all the time, I think the British people have had enough.

53:57You know, the white British people have been so tolerant up until recently. They've been so tolerant and they've been like, you know what, let them be. If they want to be an idiot, let them be. But now you see these Muslims coming out and they're saying that, oh, you know what, actually, we are going to take over. Like this is actively, and I'm reading some of the reports saying that in few years' time, the white British people will be the minority in their own country. For me, this is a very scary thing. Liam, I can't sleep at night when people tell me, you know what, they're not going to be white British people.

54:26Because anywhere and everywhere, a person of color has taken charge. They have destroyed that place. It's only the white people, the white British people who have done miracles, right? They are the closest that you can get to miracles. They have built things. They have given us amazing things. If the white British people were not that good, believe me, I wouldn't be sitting there. I would not be in the UK. I would be somewhere else. I would be in Pakistan if they were so good. I hear this all the time. The Pakistanis said, oh, well, you know what? We build Britain. Oh, the Pakistani build Britain.

54:57Well, you only build Britain because the white man was standing with a whip behind you. If the white man was in there to guide you where to go, you would have made UK a hellhole, which they are making. Look at London. Who's the mayor of London? He's not white, is he? And that's why I say it's a hellhole now. Literally, that's what they do. He's fucking barely human. Exactly. And that's what I said. That's the reason why I said white British people should be in the UK parliament. I would not have anyone else. I don't think I'll take anybody else seriously. Yes, I know there are people who are patriots.

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56:18Just tonight, oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. I've seen you campaign now on the subject of white people. It's weird me even talking about race, because for me, I'm colourblind. I don't give a shit what colour you are. Couldn't give a fuck. And if someone doesn't like me because I'm white or pink or whatever, then I don't care either. So really racism isn't, I mean, I know it's on everyone's radar, but for me, I don't care if someone doesn't like me, how I look.

56:55Even my ideology, if like, you know, I'm flawed. So if people don't like me because of the way I live my life, I'm like, do you know what? You're entitled to that. That's good. I'm not going to cry. I'm not going to get offended. I'm not going to stamp my feet and spit my dummy out. And if being white and bald offends you, good luck. You crack on. But I've seen you campaign for a white history month. I mean, even I think that's excessive. But tell me your reason behind that. Well, so White History Month, I started White History Month last year as the month of June. And it's only because I was sitting there one day and I've seen things about George Floyd, Black Lives Matter, Black History Month.

57:32And I've seen some of the videos that were showed to me by some of the people in the mosque. And there was a group chat and they were saying, oh, my God, look at this. They're talking about black excellence. That's amazing. And I sat down and I said, OK, they're talking about black excellence. For me personally, I haven't come across anybody other than white British excellence. I haven't come across. But like I said, for me, I am colorblind as well. But there are times when I think it's only recently when I have actually started seeing color. Only because what I am seeing, because my wife is white as well, and she's been called a racist.

58:02She's been called a lot of things. And I think I do it for my wife. I do it for my daughter because she's special needs. She can't do anything for herself. So me as her father and my wife as her mother, we need to do things for her because she's white. And who's been calling your wife racist? Well, the lefties. The lefties. Yeah, when we are out and about. Basically, if you're not with them, they straight away think you're against them. So my wife was out one day and she was shopping. And they've seen her and they said, oh, what do you think about the people in Palestine? My wife's like, oh, I don't know.

58:32Like I'm literally busy with my own life. And people got a lot on their own plate at these days, especially with no jobs and everything else. So I don't know, you know, what you want me to say. And they said, oh, you're racist. They obviously must have missed your wife in the halal aisle wearing a hijab for them to be calling her a racist. They were white as well, unfortunately. They were white. None of my black mates talk about racism. None of them. It's always some fucking white weird prat. There you go. I'm calling my own out, which I've got no problem to. Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, no.

59:03Yeah. So that's what it was. So obviously I was sitting with my wife and I was talking to her because of our family and everybody. And they were like, you know what, what the hell is this? Everywhere we go, people look at us and they say, oh, we are white. They talk about the white privilege. And I said, why don't you tell them where's the white privilege of the homeless man who's on the streets with no help whatsoever and he's white, where is his white privilege? Talk to the white veteran that's lost his legs fighting for the country about white privilege. And they are also homeless as well. A lot of the veterans that I know, they're either struggling or they're homeless.

59:30They get very little support. They get no support. I think little support is absolutely, it's a joke. When you look at the invaders, the illegals coming in, the support they're getting. And then people say, oh, they're only getting£49 a week. Okay, well, give that£49 a week to your homeless people, to your homeless veterans, to your single parents who are struggling, they can't pay their bills. Give them the hotel and see how they flourish. Give them a place to live and tell them you don't need to pay the bills. Whatever money you get from your own salaries while you work in two to three jobs, put that on your kids and see the white people flourish.

59:59Do that, but it's not going to happen. So you're not pro-migration then? No, I'm not. For me, asylum seekers are only women and children. When I see men turn up over your asylum seeker, no, please, get back on that dinghy and you're out. That's what I think. So anyways, I spoke to my wife, her family, and they were talking these things, and an idea came to my head, and I said, oh, well, actually, I've never seen a White History Month. I see Black History Month. The Muslim get the whole air. But the White History Month, I see nothing. So, you know, that's exactly what's going on. So I said, I'm going to introduce the White History Month.

1:00:30And I went online, and there was a website who have registered Black History Month in the UK, I called them. And I called them and I recorded all the calls because, you know, I've got a YouTube channel. I do these things. So I recorded myself calling them and there was a lady on the other side. She answered it. And I said, I would like to register a month. And it's a history month. She's like, oh, what would you like to register? Because of my accent, she was like, oh, it's going to be a Muslim month or some nonsense month. So she said, yeah, what would you like to register? And I said, I would like to register White History Month.

1:00:58With my accent, she said, excuse me? What? I said, yeah, White History Month. she literally just hung up she didn't say anything she hung up I called again I called again and she kept answering two three times she's like what the hell what do you want I said I would like to register white history man you guys registered black history man why wouldn't you do white history man she's like oh because it's inappropriate I said why George Floyd that is literally on your web page he's a criminal why is he on your page but when I'm asking you as an immigrant as a non-white asking you to register white history man why are you saying no to me they kept saying no to me I called many, many agencies.

1:01:33Last year, I found one agency who said they would register it. It cost me 50 pounds. I got two certificates that said register. And then I have to give them the bullet points why I would like to register. Like I said, it's just all the greatness that I've seen from the white British people. Then I had to give them a reason why. So I had to write an email to them. Why is it that I'm choosing June as the month of White History Month? And I said to them, June for me, it's sunny, it's positive, like, you know, everything nice. So for me, white is everything nice. anything positive I'll be like hey that's white so that's why holidays in June the family's getting together all positive things that I see in my life is in June when family's getting together we're going on the beach enjoying our lives so for me that was white so I said I'll do White History Month and even you won't believe it Liam nobody has done this White History Month right I had people say oh why would you do White History Month why wouldn't you do the whole year I said well I have at least started it have you seen anybody else doing it no you live in the UK but you know what A white person in the UK current climate daren't suggest the White History Month.

1:02:34They would be lambasted, chastised, thrown to the wolves and absolutely branded a racist. That's where we are now. No, but when I introduced this, when I got the go-ahead from that company, they said, I will send you the... You'll start getting called a coconut. Yeah, oh yeah. Coconut, white man's bootlicker. Not only that, have you watched Django? Unchained Django? Yes, yes, yes. So there is a scene where Leonardo DiCaprio... Quincy and Tarantino. Yeah, yeah. And Leonardo DiCaprio is dying. and Samuel Jackson is holding him like this. So what the people have done, they've taken that picture, right?

1:03:04They have changed the picture of Leonardo DiCaprio to Tommy Robinson and the black guy's face to my face and I'm holding Tommy Robinson. I don't mind. It's all over the internet, but like I said, I don't mind these things. And when I wore the shirt, I went out one day and I was stopped by the police. A white police officer, a white Welsh police officer came up to me, big guy, he said to me, hey, where are you going with that shirt on? I said, what do you mean? it's my fashion style. You can't tell me what to wear. When you've got people covered head to toe, you don't know who's inside it. They're okay.

1:03:35But why can I not make a fashion statement? It's my brand. This is my brand, actually. Nobody else have done it. So I did it. They were like, yeah, you can go, but you're not allowed to go on that side. When I looked at it, they were pro-Palestinian march going on. Oh, you are going to antagonize them. I said, I'm not going to do that. I am going to go. And I was walking, and you won't believe it. It was two white, woke, liberal men and one white lady, they came up to me, oh, shame on you. Why are you wearing? And I was like, you should be proud. I am saying that you white people, the white British people are good people.

1:04:04Who are these stand up to racism protesters? Yeah, stand up to racism and Antifa. They come up to me. Okay, so you've encountered Antifa and the stand up to racism mob on the streets doing your activism. Yes. What was the reception like? Oh, not good at all. They were very angry. So in the beginning, when I wasn't wearing my shirt, when they saw me, they saw a brown boy, a brownie. They said, oh, you know what? and walking around with this accent. They said, oh, he's a Muslim. Get him on. They tried talking to me nicely. And these are white people. White people, white woke liberals. So I, and this is what I did.

1:04:32I played the dumb game as well. And I went there and I had my camera with me. And I said, oh, what's going on? What do they mean by stop the boats? They're like, oh, they're racist. Don't go there. Stay with us. We'll tell you. And I said, oh, so what it is all about? So they were saying, oh, you know, there are people coming to the UK on dinghies. They're coming, you know, they're running from war and everything and they want safe place. and damn racist white people, won't let them in. And I said, so you're telling me these people are coming from Syria, Iraq, and all these places, maybe? They're like, yeah.

1:04:58And I said, so why don't they stay in Turkey? Because when you're coming from anywhere in the Middle East, your first port before getting into Europe is Turkey, safe country, a good country. A lot of people from the UK go on holidays there. So why don't they stay there? They looked at me a bit funny. They're like, oh, what do you mean? They don't want to be there because it's someone saying, okay, I get it. what about they go through France they go through Germany they go through Switzerland all of these countries they go through but they want to come to the UK right raise their life die on the way like you just said oh people die a lot coming here why don't why raise their life all the way to UK why don't you go to the first country that you reach in Europe that's not a Muslim country why don't you do that well they go family here and I said and what I've got family in France you see me getting on a dinghy the moment I said that they looked at each other they're like, you know what, this guy, they're like, so what do you think?

1:05:51What do you think about these people? I said, I think they're illegal criminals and they should be deported. Oh, racist, racist, literally. And they were, they all ganged up with me and I was in the middle. They literally had 10 people and there was one lady. She kept coming to me with her, and that was a white flag. Yeah, not a placard, the flag, the Palestine flag. And she kept hitting me on my head. And I was like, why are you doing that for? Oh, we have a Pakistani racist, a Nazi. And then there's another old man, a white man came to me and he said, why do you say that these people are criminals?

1:06:21I said, because I'm a Pakistani. Afghan is the border with Pakistan. And we know the Afghan people a lot better than you will ever know. Because I've got cousins in Pakistan. They tell us about Afghans being deported from a hellhole like Pakistan back to Afghanistan. And you want to welcome them here? Third worlders, you want to welcome them in the UK and you're going to say it's okay for them to be here? You can't do that. And they're like, oh, you don't know the history. And I said to him straight, I said, I don't need to know the history. I'm here today. I don't care. what your father, your ancestor did to somebody that I don't know, it doesn't bother me.

1:06:51I'm here today. And people have been nothing but kind to me, right? And they kept, you know, they kept hitting me. Then the police came. They told me, oh, sir, you're agitating them. I said, why am I agitating? They're talking about Middle East. That's the country that I live in. I should be in the middle of everything. Yeah, who better than you to speak to? Exactly. And they were like, no, you don't understand. I said, no, I understand the Palestinians. Because I know there are a lot of people who say, why don't the Muslim country take the Palestinian in? Because that was another question. and I say to them when I was in Saudi Arabia growing up in 1990s anybody can google this up it comes up in the 1990s the Kuwaitis ran to Saudi Arabia when Saddam Hussein was taking over Kuwait because he came in and he took over Kuwait literally in the middle of the night so we spoke to the Kuwaitis in the 1990s when I was young and we were talking to the kids hey why did you leave your country come here they said we had Palestinian people we have given them job visas to come to Kuwait and work and make a living because we were trying to be kind to them and what they did they got in and they seen the whole infrastructure they got went back to Saddam basically backstabbed them so the Palestinians were the people who backstabbed Kuwait and helped Saddam was then to take over and when people say oh why the Muslim country wanted this is why because we learned from our history people have learned from this unlike UK right you have so like me you know my situation right now that I the home office is sitting on my visa it's been 8 months and while I'm sat with you here I was told by one of my friends who's a lawyer and she said to me, look, you know what, you're doing this.

1:08:20Believe it or not, there's a very good chance that the home office is right now sat on your visa just waiting for you to make one mistake so they can try and deport you. Obviously, they can't deport me straight away, but they have already made my life and I can't get a job. I can't pay my bills. Like I said, I've sold all my assets. I've sold all my cargo and nothing left. I can't sell anything. So is there a chance you could be deported? 100%. But that is the problem, see? That is the problem. So people like me who lived here 10 years, right? I've been, I never have had no run-ins with the police.

1:08:47I got no convictions. I had not as much as a speeding ticket. I got nothing, right? But you had a guy, an Afghan criminal who got to the UK in 2020 in the back of the lorry. And in 2022, he was given an ILR, which means indefinitely leave to remain. So he's as British as you and more British than I'll ever be. And what he did with that, so now a criminal come in, home office like, you know what? You deserve this passport. Please take it. please take the bridge passport and the next year in 2025 the same immigrant goes to Uxbridge and guess what he does he goes and murder Wayne Broadhurst a man who was just walking his dog in Uxbridge and he goes and attack and kills him but that is fine they want to give their passports to people criminal and when we say when people like you say oh you know what we don't want these illegals coming because guess what that guy came in in the back of the lorry he was a criminal Oh, no, but they're asylum seekers.

1:09:39Oh, it's okay. Let them come in. How do you know that other people that are turning up right now, they're not criminals? In my eyes, every single one of these men turning up are all criminals. And I stand by that. I stand by that. We've got proofs and proofs and proofs that we have seen that these immigrants have done it. And I have noticed another trend in these illegal aliens. What they would do, they will, every time a home office reject their application, obviously they have a lot of time to go back to them, appeal it and this and that. That's a forever thing they can do. But the other thing they're doing now, they will go and commit a crime.

1:10:11They will go either murder someone, they will steal from somebody, rape someone. They'll do that and they will hand themselves over to the police and what the police does, the judges will be like, yeah, 10 years in prison, 20 years in prison, whatnot. They go sit in prison for 20 years. They are building their army and when they come out, look what the home office is going to say. Oh, well, this guy's been in British prison for 20 years. We can't deport him because he's a British citizen. He does not know anything other than the British life. Even though he was a criminal, Yes, he was in jail, but guess what?

1:10:38We need to give them new identities. They need to come in. And what these people will do then, then they are making a way for others, younger generation, younger criminals, younger brainwashed lunatics to come into the UK. And when people say, oh, you know what? They're going to take over. Believe me, it will happen. What grounds are they considering deporting you on? So as an immigrant, I don't get any benefits. It's on my visa. It's a part of my visa. Do I pay into the system? Yes, I've been paying into the system since 10 years. but like I understand that because that is me paying the fees for being in this amazing country.

1:11:11Do you now wish you'd just come over on a boat illegally? Yeah, man. Probably do this after this. Job done. Yeah, yeah. But you know, that's what my lawyer said to me last day when I was applying for my visa and my lawyer said to me, just apply for asylum, man. You know, the things that you do on YouTube is people know you. You've got a good base that you can give them that, you know, all the death threats that I get almost on a daily basis. And they said, if you do that, You can very easily stay within a couple of weeks. What I was told, within one and a half to three months, you will get all the paperwork you need and you will be as British as anybody else.

1:11:46All you need to do is claim asylum. And, you know, a lot of people said to do it. And is all this pressure being applied because you're pro-Tommy Robbins? I mean, have you actually met and sat in a room and had a conversation with Tommy Robbins? I have had a conversation with Tommy Robbins, and yes, on numerous occasions. but not in a room like one-on-one but I have asked my questions to him many times and he has answered it's straightforward and the thing is look at Tommy Has he been friendly enough? Very friendly So the whole racist theory is No but I saw that when I met him in Luton just before he got arrested and when I seen him you know when I seen him I spoke to him he was nothing but kind to me and I'm thinking like okay people have told me that if I turn up to Tommy Robinson I should have my passport and my bag ready because that guy's going to deport me because the way I look and you know I'm an immigrant none of that it was absolutely none of that so but with Tommy Robinson I don't need to sit with the guy I can see enough of the things that he does online that he says that he has done his activism and everything it shows he's not a racist he's just a concerned citizen he's a patriot to the UK for me I sometimes call him the great white British hope you know that's what I feel like you know a lot of people that follows him that support him well it is what it is but as I said for me nothing personal with Tommy Robinson there are a lot of things that I will disagree with him, a lot of things I disagree with many, many people.

1:13:07That doesn't, you know, mean that I'm going to go and make fun of him or say things about him. No, there are things that I agree with. And those things are enough for me to say, you know what, he's not a racist. A lot of people are not racist. People have asked me about the ethno-national, because I've been told many, many times, you know, the ethno-national will have done an interview with me. And at the end of the interview, they'll be like, oh, you're a nice guy, but guess what, you're getting deported. And I'll be like, man, it's your country. If you want to deport me, that's fine. But the only people that I won't allow to deport me are the Islam sitting in the home office.

1:13:36That's a fight I'm willing to, I will fight that. But like I said, if people like you, people like Tommy Robinson, the good white British people that I know, they come up to me and say, you know what, man, don't want you here. We love you. But the thing is, you leave in the country will make this country better. Guess what? I will leave. I will not put up a fight with you. This is how much I love this country. This is how much. I wonder how many people in the comments would be for you being shipped back to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. Off the back of this interview Considering your attitude is very much Contribute, assimilate Push back against Some of the radical Islamic theories I have done it against all of them And I know people say Oh what if he's just talking You have seen what has happened to me I'm sure I've sent you a lot of posts And I know a lot of people have seen it And with me losing my job The day I was losing my job with the Swansea Council Your story is pretty mad mate But I've seen it now time and time again.

1:14:32Anybody that pushes back against Islam, particularly if you're a Muslim, they seem to double down on you. Yeah, yeah. And like I said, when I was in the Swansea Council when I was getting fired, my boss was there and she's a white woke liberal as well. And she came up to me and she said to me, look, Shoaib, why do you need to do this, man? You know, we are asking you to delete your YouTube. And they asked me to delete the same post that the imam asked me to delete as well about Tommy Robinson, that he's not racist, the white people are not racist. So she said to me, you're not British, right? You're not English, Welsh, Irish, or Scottish.

1:15:04You're not from here, basically. And I said, yeah, I've got a mirror. I see myself every single day. I know. I know what I am. So she said, yeah. On that case, why not keep your, and I had a very good job at the Swansea Council. I was in HR, payroll, amazing job, beautiful, good money, sit-in job, no problem whatsoever. She said to me, delete everything, take your job back, just relax. You know, you've got three cars. You just got a new house. If you get fired, you won't be able to pay for anything. You go, guess what? Don't forget, you don't get any benefits. I'm like, yeah, I know. I know. So she gave me half an hour to sit in the room and think about it.

1:15:37And I would just sat there and I thought to myself, obviously the first thing I thought about was my wife, my daughter, and obviously more than anybody else, my father. You know, because my father, he comes from a background that he wasn't given any education. He worked as a T-boy. He worked his way up. You know, then he worked for a very good company where he was able to send me, my brothers and sister to the UK. And he paid around£27 ,000 for one year of my MBA. What do you think about foreigners claiming benefits in the UK? No, they shouldn't. They should not. Absolutely. That is zero. And the foreigners that are claiming the benefits are the people who've never put anything in the system, unfortunately.

1:16:10Exactly. Yeah. So no, no. Look, I'm a foreigner. I know I've put a lot in the system because I work. I don't want that money as well. I don't want it. What I wanted is just to have my job. So I felt really sorry for my father because I'm the eldest at the house and I love my father and I don't want to disappoint him and I don't want him to, you know, just feel down because of me, which these are unfortunately he does. But yeah, so I was sat there and there was another colleague of mine came into the thing and she said to me the same thing. She said, you know what? You're not white. You're not British.

1:16:38You're not none of that. Just leave this. Delete your YouTube. Delete your ex. Just get your job back. Just take it back. And that's what I said to her. I said to her, look, you're a white Welsh woman who's been working in this Swansea council for 30 years, right? All I heard you guys talk about is how shit is Swansea? How shit is this? How shit is that? But do you do anything for the people? Actually, you don't. What you do, right, is every time you get paid, you will go abroad. So yes, you can sit there and say, oh, you know what? This country is shit. But are you doing anything to fix it? You're not.

1:17:10But people in the council, so for my job in the council was to work with the people and I did work with everybody and everybody really, really liked me. And I got certificates to prove that as well, that I was one of the best workers that they had. They put them out of the backlog of three years. So when she said to me, I said, you know what, this is, you guys are being traded to your own people and you are telling me a guy who's an immigrant, who's a foreigner, yes, these are not my people, but I want to work for them because that is why I'm getting paid to do. So this is how my honesty was and this is how much I wanted to give back to the country, to the UK by doing this.

1:17:41So I got up and I said, you know what, take my job. I'm not going to delete anything. And that was it, literally, I made a very bad decision and I know this now. I made a very bad decision, but will I ever change the decision? Never. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports.

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1:18:56No. You know who they are? Yeah, of course. Yeah, I could see them approaching you. Yeah, but the thing is, they haven't done it. And I would, it would be... Have you had any encounters at all with them? Yeah, I have plenty of encounters with them. Many. Like even before my activism thing, I used to do a lot of online YouTube thing. And when I used to do online, they used to be commenting on my thing, saying things about me and all of these things. But I always used to counter, I always used to say to them, if you want to say something to me, let's have a debate, let's have a chat. It's not a debate, let's have a conversation.

1:19:28Tell me why you're right and I'll tell you why I think I'm right. And I think this is what it is. If I have an opinion, let's say if I say, oh, you know what? Oh, I think this is right. But if you tell me with facts that you're wrong, I will accept it if I'm wrong. No, but they have never come to me in that way. I'm going to ask you one more question,

1:19:47which you're going to love I'm sure. A lot of people watching may not like it so much. But I'm going to put Shoaib's links in the description if you want to follow his journey and see if he gets deported or not and if he gets harassed anymore by the police and counter-terrorism and imams and the mafia from the mosque. And don't forget to like and subscribe to this channel so we can keep bringing you these conversations that the mainstream won't. Final question is, If the prophet Muhammad and Jesus Christ were exported into the here and now As they were back in the day Who would be the better man?

1:20:23Muhammad or Jesus? Both of them are prophets for me Both of them are prophets And I think for me looking at the things that they have done previously I would have to rethink who I would go with And will I be allowed to ask them questions before I choose the best man or will it be, you know, I have to just off the bat? Just from the information you've had, if you had to choose who the better man was in modern day society based on their previous behaviour, would it be Mohammed or Jesus? Well, previous behaviour, I have to say Jesus because I think with Mohammed, I wouldn't want anybody coming in and start doing what they did with the nine-year-old because for me, I don't care who it is.

1:21:03I'm going to deal with them and it's not going to be a very nice thing. I'm going to deal with them very, very, like badly. So yes, for me, I think it will have to be Jesus. And this is based on the previous behavior. What about if you had an ISIS executioner with a sword hovering over your neck? What would your answer be? I think it probably will be Jesus as well. And I'll tell you why. And I know people say, oh, well, you know, you don't have a knife. You're just saying it. I'll tell you why. Because like I said, me sat here talking to you right now, I'm already on the verge of getting deported.

1:21:33I don't think there's anything good that will come out of this or anything else that I've been doing. because since day one, I've been told, if you keep your mouth shut, you will just have your life, whatever you had. And as I said, I lost everything. I've absolutely got nothing right now. Like I cannot even stay here and say, oh, you know what? I've got a job because I don't have a job. I can't tell them, oh, you know what? I can stay here because I've got savings to support myself. I don't have that either, right? I sold my cars. I've got nothing left. So yes, when people say, you know, it's a hypothetical question or he's just saying it, I actually do mean it.

1:22:05and it shows from when I was encountered by the counterterrorism police they kept telling me again and again revisiting the question hoping that I will change my answer so they can say you know what yeah I will let you off the hook because you've said it's okay to have Islamic school I'll let you off the hook because you said yeah there's a problem with the white Christian raping gangs and this and that but because I never changed my answer that's why I got arrested and because I did not change my answer that's why the home office is sitting on my application and because I keep doing what I'm doing the home office have literally just blanked me.

1:22:36Seven months. They told me that I should receive an answer from them, a decision from the home office in August 2025. I haven't heard anything back from them. And according to the lawyers, according to very good friends of mine, they have told me that they are watching you. They watch everything you do. They watch everything you say and they are taking out a screenshot. And if they're not watching me, the imams, and the funny thing is there are a lot of imams who work for the home office as well. And I know them as well. I know these people Who are working for the Home Office So my address getting leaked My date of birth getting leaked You know people Coming up with my full name And this and that And saying oh we know what you are We know where you live This is your date of birth You were born here Who is doing it?

1:23:17I don't put any of this online It's all It's either the Swansea Council Because I work for them It's either the Home Office Or it's either the police Which one is it? Well I hope the Home Office The Council And the police Are all watching this To make sure that they are watching this Can you share To bring it to their attention And Shoaib Stay alive, man. Thank you, man. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. Appreciate it, man. Thank you.

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