In short
Kirsty Stroud recounts her life from being born with organs outside her body, to working as a female prison officer (“screw”) in a male jail, then leaving for sports/fitness, and later becoming an OnlyFans and adult-industry creator (“Muscle Girl 31”), including claims of corruption, sexual exploitation, and unsafe porn-industry practices.
Guest backgrounds
Kirsty Stroud is a former prison officer (7 years) who later became a CrossFit competitor and coach, then an adult content creator. Her husband Ben is a former gym screw and CrossFit gym owner who supports her online work. The host is not identified in the transcript.
Key claims
Prison staff corruption protected prisoners and involved a governor demanding sexual favors in exchange for silence and money. Kirsty says she was targeted with false drug-trafficking accusations and suspended for about a year. In porn, she claims some shoots involve undisclosed sexual coercion and that events can spread STIs due to ignored or falsified testing.
Notable examples
“Bucket of shit” initiation; governor allegedly asking “get on your knees, suck my dick”; being strip-searched and investigated for a year; COVID-era OnlyFans earnings (about £800/month supermarket → $1,500 then $5,000 within weeks; first month ~$18k; first five months ~$100k); a woods photoshoot where a photographer allegedly exposed himself and masturbated; a large Amsterdam event she says became a massive orgy leading to months of STIs.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLife as a Prison Officer
0:45 to 1:51
Discussing the challenges faced by female prison officers.
“There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone.”
Sponsorship Announcement
1:51 to 2:41
Introduction of the sponsor Change and their mentoring program.
“For the last year, I've been working with Ryan from Change, and now they're sponsoring our channel so we can keep bringing you these conversations.”
Kirsty's Early Challenges
2:41 to 4:25
Kirsty shares her early life experiences and health challenges.
“When you were born, you were born with organs outside of your body.”
Struggles with Identity
4:25 to 5:38
Kirsty talks about her struggles with body image and acceptance.
“I was like, right, well, I don't want to be sat on my own at lunchtime.”
Joining the Prison Service
5:38 to 7:40
Kirsty explains her motivations for joining the prison service.
“I can't take away what my mum and my nan did for me.”
Corruption in the System
7:40 to 9:50
Exploring the corruption within the prison system and its impact.
“And I didn't have a clue what I was walking into.”
Relationships and Pressure
9:50 to 12:22
Kirsty shares experiences of relationships and pressures faced as an officer.
“So in those seven years, what was the one thing that you saw that could never be unseen?”
Accusations and Investigations
12:22 to 14:00
Kirsty discusses the false accusations and investigations she faced.
“And this, my friend, she was having a relationship with a prisoner, had a baby, got married and still sucking the governor's dick.”
Investigation and Accusation
14:00 to 18:00
Kirsty discusses her false drug smuggling accusations and the impact on her mental health.
“And then you're offered 100 grand to go and take some drugs in.”
Life as a Prison Guard
18:00 to 22:40
Kirsty shares her experiences working in a prison and the challenges faced with inmates.
“And then they've got a whole load of weights, machines, barbells.”
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Meeting Her Husband
22:40 to 27:00
Kirsty recounts how she met her husband while working as a gym officer in prison.
“Avatar Fire and Ash is now streaming on Disney+.”
From Prison to Adult Star
27:50 to 28:00
Kirsty explains her transition from prison officer to adult content creator during COVID.
Kirsty's Journey into Adult Content
28:00 to 30:09
Learn how Kirsty transitioned from a traditional job into the world of adult entertainment.
“And then within two weeks, I don't,$5 ,000.”
The Dynamics of Adult Work
30:10 to 33:23
Explore the dynamics of Kirsty's work in adult entertainment and her partnership with Ben.
“But then after the first month, I think I earned about like 18 grand.”
Going Mainstream in Adult Entertainment
33:24 to 36:02
Discover how Kirsty transitioned to mainstream adult content and collaborated with others in the industry.
“What can we now do to wow everyone, to make everyone come into our channel?”
The Dark Side of the Adult Industry
36:03 to 40:48
Kirsty shares her experiences highlighting the hidden dangers and uncomfortable situations in adult filming.
“Everyone seems present enough, professional.”
Perceptions of Adult Stars
41:19 to 42:00
Kirsty discusses societal views on porn stars and the misconceptions about their lives.
“May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.”
Concerns in the Adult Industry
42:00 to 44:40
Explore the concerns and risks associated with the adult industry, including personal experiences and the prevalence of narcissism and psychopaths.
“Which is my concern of how it's just completely blown up.”
Orgies and Health Risks
44:40 to 47:00
Discuss the chaotic nature of industry events, the risks posed to sexual health, and the shocking instances of STI outbreaks.
“So there's like a hundred people in a room just like fingering each other, banging each other.”
Blurred Lines of Consent
47:00 to 50:00
Delve into the complex issues of consent, coercion, and the blurred lines surrounding sexual boundaries within the porn industry.
“you get people saying certain things and ruining someone's reputation, whether they're guilty or not, it's ruined.”
Consequences of the Industry
50:00 to 52:40
Kirsty shares her personal health crisis that led to a reevaluation of her career in the adult industry and the struggles she faced.
“Only do it if you're comfortable talking about it.”
Transition to a New Life
52:40 to 56:00
Kirsty discusses her life after leaving the adult industry, focusing on new career paths and the challenges of starting over.
“Yeah, and fair play for exposing it as well, because there's no way back for you, I'm assuming.”
From Adult Industry to Fitness Business
56:00 to 57:26
Kirsty discusses her transition from the adult industry to running a successful gym business.
“We were like, how can we now move our boundaries and 10x the business?”
Reflections on Adult Industry and Its Impact
58:20 to 1:02:34
Kirsty shares her thoughts on the adult industry and offers advice to young women.
“May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.”
Future Aspirations and Fitness Advocacy
1:02:34 to 1:03:28
Kirsty expresses her desire to help others through fitness and health education.
“Even just type my name into Google, you'll find me.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28I see you. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this, or is this just an act? Oh, no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! How to have my heart! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. For a lot of people to become a prison officer, it would scare the shit out of them.
1:03Three weeks in, I got potted. Where they pour shit over you. Yep, I got a bucket of shit, urine, sperm, you name it, it's in it, thrown over me from the top of the landing. Pedophiles, rapists, terrorists, murderers. They've got basketball courts, badminton courts. They've got a full-size swimming pool, TVs, kettlebells, dumbbells. Like a David Lloyd for sex cases. The prisoners are putting the strings rather than the screws. The prison governor knew this was going on, wanting a bit of their money, and then asking for sexual favours, saying, get on your knees, suck my dick, and then we'll keep it hush-hush.
1:34Did your husband want to kill him? Prison officer into porn. In my first five months, I ended up making 100 grand. 100 people in a room fingering each other, banging each other. It ended up in a massive orgy. The only way to get attention is to go extreme.
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2:41Kirsty. Hello. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. Prison, porn, trauma, corruption. Let's get straight into it. When you were born, you were born with organs outside of your body. How would that affect a young girl? I was. I was born with my organs and intestines on the outside of my body. And it was 37 years ago. So you think about the technology back then, no one really knew what was in store for me, if I was going to have a stoma bag, if I was going to be physically disabled. And yeah, it was a tough time, especially for my family. My mum and dad, they were both 17 when they had me.
3:20So any 17-year-old having a baby, that's pressure, right? But then to have a really poorly baby, that was in Great Ormond Street for about six months. Did you nearly die? I did. I had to have life-saving surgery. So because of the technology back then, ultrasounds and everything like that weren't very good. So no one knew what was coming. I literally bled out from my mum. She was knocked out in a normal hospital. I was taken to Great Ormond Street and then given surgery to survive, many surgeries to survive, really. And so going through your childhood, I mean, how does something like that affect a young girl?
3:55Because how you look's important, isn't it? Yeah, it is. And as I grew up, I didn't want to show off my body. I was very much a tomboy. I lived on a council estate, so my mum would chuck me out on my bike and I'd be in my jeans and my T-shirt, rolling around in the dirt. So no one would know any different. And then any sport activities, I'd always make sure I'd covered up. So no one really saw. But in the changing room, that was a whole different story. Kids are fucking mean. Very cruel. Really cruel. And it really did bother me. And I wasn't popular at school. I wasn't part of the cool gang. And that's when I kind of found sport.
4:31I was like, right, well, I don't want to be sat on my own at lunchtime. I'm going to go and do something productive. So I threw myself into sports. and yeah, I think that's where I belonged. And did that boost your confidence? Yes, it did because I was pushed into directions. I played netball for the county, I sprinted for the county, I played hockey for the county. So I was very much in and out of the country, up and down, doing everything and I was like, wow, I'm actually pretty good at this. I've got my PE teacher to thank me for that. And then when it comes to PE classes, all the kids that were horrible to me, well, guess who they picked first?
5:07So I did something right. So you was a high achiever as well with whatever you turned your hand to. Absolutely. And I think with how I was brought up made me more determined to create a life where I was as independent as possible. So that meant to achieve and succeed everywhere possible because I didn't want to rely on anybody because I felt through my life I couldn't rely on anybody to stick around for long enough. Were you a mummy's girl or a daddy's girl? Neither, to be fair. I can't take away what my mum and my nan did for me. Like they did what they could with what they could at the time.
5:46My dad wasn't around. He didn't like me. I got the impression he didn't like me by what he used to say to me, the language he used around me, saying that I looked like a boy. I acted like a boy, which I did because I like to climb trees. I like to get in the dirt. I didn't wear pretty little dresses or bows in my hair. I wasn't that person. And I think, and he blamed my mum for that as well. So I just felt like we didn't really bond at all. And then as I got older and I started experimenting with makeup and hair and my clothes, he turned around and said, I look like a fucking tart. And I was like, right.
6:24And that was the last time I saw him. I walked away from that incident and was like, I don't want to be around you anymore. How old were you then? Twelve. Have you got any brothers? I've got lots of siblings. My dad's been married four times now. I've got lots of siblings that I've never met. And he's recently just got divorced. So then again, that says to me that I wasn't the problem. He was the problem. Join the prison service. I did. I know we're taking a leap, but I'm so interested what it would be like for a female prison officer, aka Screw, because I've interviewed a lot of male Screws. So I've got their perception of what the job entails.
7:00but it's got to be a different ball game for a woman, surely. It's a completely different ball game. As a female, I went into a male establishment and I was 18 at the time. What made you do that? What made you join? I think because school wasn't very academic, but I was more physical. So with the sports and everything like that, I was like, right, I'm going to do a physical job. The army, military, fire, prison, police. And I left college from doing public services and naturally went into a public service, which was the prison service. So that's how that happened. And at the age of 18, I got thrown into an establishment of 1 ,500 men who were serving at least six years.
7:39So they were paedophiles, rapists, terrorists, murderers, the whole shebang. And I didn't have a clue what I was walking into. Before we get under the bonnet of all of that, which we will, what was the main driving force for you joining, do you think? Did you want to support people? You were a bit of a justice warrior, the whole social care of it all? No, it was more to do with I needed a physical job, something with a possible career that could help me achieve what I wanted to achieve in regards to being independent, a good wage, which I thought was a good wage at the time, annual leave, sickness.
8:15It was more that kind of thing rather than, oh, I want to go and help people because that wasn't the case. It was just it's a physical job. I'll see where I get, try and climb the ladder. Because for a lot of people to become a prison officer, it would scare the shit out of them. Because it's a dangerous job. It's like frontline security in an environment full of dangerous people. Yeah. Did that enter your brain or did you think, that's a bit of me? No, I don't think I really thought it through. And until I got there, I was like, oh, shit, this is going to be a tough time. And three weeks in, I got potted.
8:48Where they pour shit over you. Yeah, I got a bucket of shit. I don't know what was in the bucket, but it was like fluid, warm, wet, fluid, probably urine, sperm, you name it, it's in it. Yeah, it got thrown over me from the top of the landing. I was absolutely covered in it. And that was what they would say is my initiation test to see if I came back. So, yeah, that was three weeks into the job. That makes me wonder who orchestrates that. Other screws or the prisoners? Very good question. Very good thinking. But yeah, well, when I spoke to the other officers about it, it was, well, it's normal.
9:28So yeah, now that you've said that, I'm like, yeah. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, probably is. Because they could quite easily be putting you, let's see if she's got what it takes. Yeah, yeah, we'll see what she's made of. Because I then got stripped, taken to a hospital, had to get tested for everything to see. I hadn't got AIDS, HIV, hepatitis and everything like that. And then I wasn't allowed back for about a month after that because you have to make sure that you're clean of anything, infection that you could have caught. So it's gruesome, right? Foul. Yeah. And you was a screw for seven years.
9:56So in those seven years, what was the one thing that you saw that could never be unseen? Nothing specifically that happened in regards to anything in the prison that I saw, but it's more about the whole system and how corrupt all the staff were and how corrupt the security governor was and, yeah, how corrupt the whole system was. and it always worked for the prisoners and against the staff, if that makes sense. It was, you've got 300 prisoners to a wing and you've got six staff. There's going to be manipulations going on. There's going to be people that are doing things that shouldn't be to keep on the good side of the prisoners.
10:36And other staff would turn a blind eye to it. Oh, I see. So when you say corruption, you mean that the prisoners are putting the strings rather than the screws. Yep. And the security governor, like the top dog of that unit, is in on it because he just wants an easy jail. And how it works. So there was screws, women specifically, young ones like me, who were manipulated by other prisoners who were like taking in drugs and other contraband. And then in exchange were receiving large amounts of cash. So the prison governor knew this was going on and was allowing these females to do this, was getting his part in it as well, wanting a bit of their money, and then asking for sexual favours from the staff to him to keep it quiet.
11:22Instead of hanging them out to dry and going, you're corrupt, get out of my jowl, he was basically saying, get on your knees, suck my dick, and then we'll keep it hush-hush, and you can keep the money. And this is the prison governor? Yes, the prison governor. And this is still when you was very young as well. Yeah. So this was when I was like 20 years old. And the thing is, one of the girls that was being manipulated and blackmailed by the governor, she befriended me. And I like the fact that she was like my best friend. I didn't know what was going on, really. I was very blind to it all. And she used me as a scapegoat.
11:53So basically put in reports and got prisoners to put in reports about me to get the attention of her and off the prisoners that were off the staff that were doing the wrong things. So then everyone else was kind of like looking at me as if I was the bad person, that I was the con shagger. And then it made it easier for the drugs to come into the jail. That's another question I wanted to ask you about, because we've seen examples now where female prison officers have been sent to jail for having sex with prisoners. Yeah. Was it rife? Oh, absolutely. And this, my friend, she was having a relationship with a prisoner, had a baby, got married and still sucking the governor's dick.
12:31Did she fall pregnant whilst working in jail? Yes. Okay, so there's no real getting away from that, is there? No, there isn't. She didn't end up in jail because she actually resigned before it all blew up in her face. Well, it blew up in lots... The prison governor got found out in the end and it all went tits up. And were you propositioned by prisoners? All the time. And I was accused several times and investigated and not allowed into the establishment for like a year because they thought I was part of the process, which I wasn't. Which was for a young person to be accused of trafficking drugs into an establishment for large amounts of money.
13:08I was terrified. Like I didn't know my rights. So I remember when I got searched, I went into the jail, I got searched and they basically got interrogated in a little room. Didn't have any like McKenzie friend. And what was this for? So you're now accused of something? Accused, yeah, sorry, accused of trafficking drugs into the jail. Do you know why you was accused of that? Other than to take the spotlight off people that were, was it a punishment for not accepting someone's sexual proposition? Possibly. Again, I don't know. I don't know. But I do know that there were stacks of reports made of me, and I think it was from prisoners and from staff who didn't.
13:46And did you accept any sexual propositions? No, no, no, no. And that's the thing. I think because I was so stubborn with everything and I wasn't going to be manipulated, I thought, no, I'm not doing that. Even though, like, in reality, like, 100 grand. Yes, please. I was earning, what, 18 grand a year? And then you're offered 100 grand to go and take some drugs in. You're like, hmm. You do think about it. Oh, so you're offered big money as well. Massive money, which is what I'm saying. These screws are going, yeah, okay, I'll bring in drugs for you for that amount of money. Okay, so there's been a false accusation that you've been bringing in drugs to the jail and then you've been stopped on your way into work.
14:20Yeah. Where does it go from there? I got strip searched, questioned, put in a hold in cell. And then they said to me that they were going to investigate me further. They didn't have anything on me. They went through my phone, through my house, through my mum's house, through my car. They ripped me apart, but there was no evidence for me receiving any money via bank, cash. They just couldn't prove it. I didn't smoke. I didn't drink. I didn't have drugs on me. Nothing was ever found. And I was just then thrown back to the slaughter. So how long did that process take? I'm assuming that they suspended you pending further investigation.
14:55It was about a year. Suspended for a year? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And I remember my mum, she was just like, you must have done something. And I was like, no, I really haven't. Well, that's the thing. when you're accused of something like that, people always think there's no smoke without fire, especially in a system like that where people, I think people now more so now know that like there's corruption everywhere. Yeah. But probably back then people trusted these institutions, didn't they? I was asleep. At the time I was very asleep and very like, oh God, I don't want to get into trouble. Like I was that person and I didn't really, I wasn't really aware of anything.
15:27I just wanted, I just, yeah, I wasn't awake. I'm awake now. And how did that affect your mental health? Oh, it was terrible. And then when I got put back into the establishment, everyone knew me. So it made me really like, it really broke me inside. It really, I wasn't confident. I wasn't very confident. I didn't want to be there for much longer. I mean, how does that work? You're accused of something, you're investigated for a year, suspended for all that time. Yeah. Is there someone keeping tabs on you? And then how did they reintroduce you to the prison system? There was nothing. I literally got a phone call saying, no, you can go back to work tomorrow.
16:02Oh, and you're going to be on a different wing. Oh, OK, thank you. And there was no support, so to speak. It was like you just go in, get thrown into the dogs and it's like you never left. No support at all. I'm surprised there's not been more whistleblowers. I suppose now people know that people in power can really destroy the little people's lives if they want to. So even by what you're saying today, blowing the whistle on the guff and the one in female screws to give him a blowjob in exchange for whatever, and the corruption and the fact that he's taken a share of the crime syndicate, I mean, that could land you in trouble.
16:38I mean, are you bothered of any kind of backlash? Does the establishment attack concern you? Not now it doesn't, no, because I know I never did anything wrong. And I even had people apologise to me for the way they treated me because they always thought I was the con shagger or the drug trafficker. that was the name I had throughout the whole thing. And yeah, it wasn't until I left and they realised who was actually doing the dirty, it came to light. But at the time, like you do see things. I had my suspicions about people being bent, so to speak, but you just want, it sounds awful, but you just want an easy life.
17:16You just want to go home safe that day. You don't want to upset the apple cart. You just want to do your job and go home. and you don't want to be that person that, like I said, upsets the apple carton. Then people look at you and they don't want to work with you because you're causing trouble. So you just want to get your head down and just do what you've got to do and go home. Were there any parts of the job that you did like? Must have been. The only part I did like was the gym. You'd be disgusted at what kind of facility prisoners get, the access that paedophiles, rapists and all that lot get.
17:45Like, you know, when you go to a hotel gym, it's shit, right? Yeah. It's really bad. Well, their gym, they've got a full-size swimming pool. They've got basketball courts, badminton courts. They've got a whole landing of cardio equipment, TVs, kettlebells, dumbbells. And then they've got a whole load of weights, machines, barbells. The access that they have to the gym is incredible. So that's what kept me sane because at lunchtimes, I would run to the gym and use the facilities there. And that's where I met my husband. Yeah, I want to come to that. So the noncies had access to this same. Yeah.
18:21So it's like a David Lloyd for sex cases. Yeah, basically. It's disgusting, really. Like the paedophiles, again, they were protected by the system. So they had a completely different routine as well to make sure that they didn't come into contact with a person that would potentially want to kill them for doing the offences that they've done. Did you see any attacks, any sort of vigilante work like that while you were there? Yeah. And most officers, just like myself, would turn a blind eye because you just think, yeah, they deserve it. At the end of the day, just walk away, let them get on with it.
18:51So when Ian Huntley was recently murdered, that probably come of no surprise, other than the fact it took a long time for it to happen. It took a long time to happen. I thought he died years ago. And then I saw recently, and I think, well, good, absolutely. And I know prisoners that would happily kill paedophiles or people that have raped their kids or anything like that and serve longer. They would take it. And good for them. Yeah, what are some of the things about the job that you liked the least? Having to pretend, not pretend to be people's friends, but keep the peace. Like there's some people that make you sick.
19:29Like having to work with these people that you know what they've done in regards to killing their wives, killing their children and everything like that. Having to work with them. So I went into the rehabilitation side of stuff. So then I had to teach them how not to be angry and how not to be a sexual predator and all this lot. And it's just a tick box exercise. It's all a load of crap as far as I'm concerned. It's just so then they can put it in front of a judge to try and get out early. Where I was like, no, they don't deserve that. And how would you describe yourself as a screw? I was very, very vulnerable.
20:04I wasn't like, I had this hard exterior. I had to have that hard exterior, but inside I was vulnerable and just I shouldn't have been there. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's amazing how you stayed there so long. There should have been someone looking out for that vulnerability, surely. Yeah. Well, the thing that kept me going was good pay. So by this point I was maybe on 28 grand a year, which again at the time I thought, yeah, 28 grand a year. And I had my annual leave and I had my holiday and I had my sickness pay and I couldn't see a way out. I was very much like this is going to be my life now. And also when I said what kind of a screw were you, were you more understanding, empathetic or was you ruthless?
20:44I was more empathetic. And if anything, I think that's why I had to leave because I was taking home some of the things that I had seen and known their offences. And I was like, I can't work with these people anymore. This is, it didn't align with me. It started to eat at me. Something wasn't right. I needed to break free. Yeah, mess with your principles. Yes. And your morals. Exactly that. And now that I'm more aware of everything, I think even in any public service, you think about nurses and everything that they've had to do over the last few years, like jabbing people and stuff. And I think if that was me, I wouldn't have been able to do that knowing what I know now.
21:23There are still people jabbing people knowing that that's going to kill them or could potentially. And in my eyes, I'm thinking, are you still asleep? How is this not breaking your values? Like, how are you still in this service? I don't get it. Yeah, it's interesting you say that because I know that you had a very big shift in life during COVID, which we'll come to in a sec. I want to know what the final straw was that made you think, enough, I'm out of prison service. But before, just meeting your husband. How did that little love affair take place? And did you have sex with him at work? Oh, no.
21:52This is now a moment of honesty. Moment of honesty. So I wanted to become a gym screw. So I would go down to the gym and the way to become a gym screw, you had to learn all the sports, right? So you had to learn how to lift, how to play badminton, how to do everything. And that's how I met Ben. So he was a gym screw and then he taught me the ways in all the ways. And had you been in the same place of work for a long time without realising that you were perhaps meant to be? Yeah. So I think it was a good few years before I then looked at becoming a gymscrew and then met him. And he was like, oh, I'll help you.
22:29So every lunchtime we'd have a little date on the badminton court. And everything was very professional at first, but it slowly become obvious that we really liked each other. And yes, we had sex in the jail. I see you. Avatar Fire and Ash is now streaming on Disney+. It's the film critics are calling the best Avatar yet. A true epic and completely jaw-dropping. This is the only purest thing in this world. Return to Pandora on Disney+. It will be an adventure for the whole family. And watch the Oscar-winning phenomenon at home. This is sick! Avatar Fire and Ash, now streaming on Disney+. Rated PG-13.
23:13And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act? Oh no, this isn't it. Oysters, everybody! There is a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to live. Good for both of you. Yeah. If it's good enough for the fucking cons, it's good enough for the screws.
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23:49Exactly. And it was a lot. I think a lot of people were doing that. They'd close themselves in cupboards and shag each other's brains out and then go home. Also, I think if when two people truly love each other, there's nothing really coming between that. No. And that's it. And we did have a lot in common. Like, he looked good. He moved well. So, yeah. Did it make you feel safe? Yeah, because he was a protector. We did like control and restraint and we were rolling around on the floor and he. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely made me safe. You love him, isn't that? I do love him. Yeah, I can see. That's lovely.
24:18So what was the final straw that made you think, I've got to leave this institution. That's enough. I think what happened, there was an early redundancy scheme to try and get rid of a load of staff. So they were offering big amounts of money. And what prison was this? This was Swelside. So on the Isle of Sheppey. Right. So they're offering early redundancy schemes. So you take your money and then you go. and then basically they'd then recruit younger officers with less pay. So they're just replacing people. So basically I just took the early redundancy and at the time Ben had been medically retired and he'd left.
24:54So I kind of was like, oh, okay, he's not here now. I'm going to go, got my package and then left. But he went to open his gym, his CrossFit gym, and then I was like, I'm going to be a teacher, a PE teacher, because I'm good at PE. Sports. I'm good at sports. Let's go and do PE teaching. And that's what I studied at uni. And then let's shift to now COVID era. Okay. So you've gone from prison officer into porn. Yeah. That's a big jump. That's a big difference. So I went to uni for three years, did sports science, physical education, and then had the gym open. I started coaching at the gym, CrossFit, fell in love with CrossFit, then was like, oh my God, I'm really good at CrossFit.
25:40started, my body started changing. I started competing nationally, internationally. Between 2016 and 2018, I was winning, winning loads of money. I was like, great. This is, this is great. And I looked great. I felt great. I was living the life. And then COVID hit. Our gym got shut down. We didn't have any income. I didn't go into teaching it. I actually went to coach in our gym and just build our business. That's what we, that's what I did. But we had one income, COVID happened, lockdown happened, the world shut down and we had no money. And I was like, what are we going to do? So I went and worked in a supermarket for£800 a month doing the delivery driving.
26:21Ben tried to keep the gym afloat by doing online classes and loaned out all the equipment to members just to keep our overheads going. And on the TV, we saw some girl make£100 ,000 on OnlyFans in a year. And this girl, there was nothing about her. and I was like, how has she made that much money? Just on photographs and a few clips. So Ben actually said to me, it was my husband that said to me, you're sitting on a goldmine, Kirst. Look at what you look like. And I was like, I wasn't convinced, purely because I get trolled for how I look. The muscles, as I've gone through life, are seen as manly, not very womanly.
27:02Women shouldn't have muscles. You shouldn't lift. You shouldn't look like that. And I was thinking, no one's going to want to buy anything that has my body in it. Why would they? But I had nothing to lose and everything to gain. So we gave it a go. I started taking pictures of my quads, my calves, soles and holes, as I sold it as. Created the world of Muscle Girl 31, because that's how old I was. When you say soles, you talk about soles of your feet or our soles? Both. Okay. Yeah. so it was just pictures of everything down below basically because I didn't want my face in it because I just thought well if it doesn't work then no one knows I've done it I didn't have any tattoos then either um so I did that I did a few sets of pictures put it up and just thought right forget about it let's just see what happens a week later I'd made$1 ,500 in pictures and I could see it on my virtual bank I just kept an eye on it I was at the supermarket earning£800 a month thinking, is this real?
28:04Like, I'm just, I'm at$1 ,500. And then within two weeks, I don't,$5 ,000. And the money just kept ticking up with these sets of pictures that people were buying. And they were quite mild. Yes, there was nothing. There was like cheeky teasing because I've got intimate piercings. I've got a clip piercing and a lip piercing. So it was just like teasing. So people would want to see more. But I wasn't giving everything away. Not just yet anyway. When Ben said you're sitting on a gold mine, you know, why don't you sell your body online? Did you question his love for you? Did it make you think this is a bit strange or he believes in me?
28:44What was your – because I would never, ever, ever in a million years want my wife doing that. And I'm sure most people would think the same. No, I do understand that. But we'd been in the swinging world for a good few years before that. So we had been having sex with other people. And yeah, so for me to do a few pictures and put it out, didn't shock me like when he said about it. So who instigated the whole swinging thing, you or him? So I think it was both of us. So we both come from relationships that were quite boring sexually. So we were like, we obviously had fun together. We've been together for 18 years now.
29:20So yeah, not saying it was boring between us, but we just wanted to open it up a little bit more. You wanted to go balls out, didn't you? Yeah, we went balls deep. this dynamic always fascinates me because it's it's like the least thing i would ever do yeah even for and people think i'm mental because a million pound gets you a lot of things i wouldn't be able to do that for a million pound and i'm probably the type of person that people would look at and think yeah of course you would but i just i couldn't i couldn't do that i think i'm too i'm too jealous it's probably probably the truth of it yeah if i've i'm probably yeah i couldn't imagine anything worse.
29:56Okay, so we're now back to the OnlyFans. You're doing it solo. Pictures of, you're just teasing people now. Is Ben getting off on this as well? No, he's just like, yeah, get on with it. And I'm like, okay, cool. At the end of the day, we were just making a little bit of money. But then after the first month, I think I earned about like 18 grand. And I was like, I'd never... First month? First month, 18 grand. And you think back in the prison service, I was making 18 ,000 a year. So to me, this was a massive amount of money. So I was like, okay, so I quit the supermarket. I was like, yeah, I'm done.
30:31So then I started spending more time online and doing more pictures and clips, but custom. So I talked to, talked to my fans and say, would you like, what would you like? And then they would ask for certain things, me flexing, especially with my muscles, oil myself up, just a couple of minute clips. And then I'd charge like$200 for a couple of minutes. I'd imagine this is a very niche market that not everyone can do, which gives you a distinct advantage. And can I call them suckers? These men that pay you hundreds of pounds to see you flex? Yeah. Okay. That's fine. How many suckers are there out there?
31:06There's millions of suckers. And luckily, a lot of them like muscle girls, which I didn't realise. I'm such a niche. Now, there is no UK muscle girl that does CrossFit. well there's no I'm literally one of the only UK CrossFit girls on OnlyFans so I have a specific niche and in my first five months I ended up making 100 grand like it and that was nothing there was only pictures clips and maybe me like playing with myself that was it there was no like intercourse with anyone else or anything like that I can only assume that becomes addictive earning that sort of money for doing what you're doing it did and it does and you're forever chasing percentages and money and when the world unlocked and we went back to doing the gym I was the talk of the town which was it was hard and people in the gym there were some people in the gym that had bought my stuff and there was whatsapp messages going around and people were just sending my pictures around the gym and I was just it was very very uncomfortable and it was affecting the business so Ben took me out of the gym and said look just work from home do what you got to do keep creaming it which I did and yeah just kept chasing them centuries and for the year I basically managed to steady because I then opened up another page and went on other websites and I had like about 750 subscribers paying like 25 pound time and what town do you live in Folkestone and have you always lived there throughout all of this yes yeah I was Medway and then I moved down to Folkestone, yeah, about 18 years ago.
32:37So you never thought to yourself, do you know what, I'm going to escape this and go somewhere else to make it easier for you. You thought, no, I'm going to stand my ground and this is what I do, accept it or don't. Basically, I just stood my ground. And people were asking, Ben, why are you letting your wife do this? Why are you letting her do this? Are you not embarrassed or ashamed? And Ben was like, no. Because I know that we're going to get to a point when you're going to expose the porn industry. But how did it evolve from you going solo to then not being solo and putting or being in situations that weren't great?
33:09So for the year, I was just at home making, just making money myself in my pants, which was great. But it got to a point where you kind of like plateau or you kind of see the numbers dip. So then me and Ben got together and we were like, how can we 10x this? How can we keep this going? A bit like the whole Bonnie Blue thing. What can we now do to wow everyone, to make everyone come into our channel? So it was like pushing boundaries, moving boundaries. So that's what we did. And we come together and said, well, how about I go mainstream and collab with other people that are in the industry? So that was where we went and how we made the decision because we thought, well, that's a good way to get more followers because the more pages you can land on, the better, right, in regards to Instagram.
33:54So when you say mainstream, you see, I've made a conscious decision years ago not to watch porn anymore. I think it's not good for your soul and it destroys a lot of people, particularly relationships, unless you're sort of into the things that you're in. So I would have thought OnlyFans is mainstream. So where do you go from OnlyFans to become more main? So mainstream is more like a Brazzers or Pascal Sub Sluts or... Pornhub. Yep, Pornhub. Okay. That's where we went. So we went mainstream and then collabing with other creators, so to speak. Adult entertainers. Adult entertainers, yeah. To make more money, basically just to get more exposure.
34:34So if I could land on as many pages as possible, people would then feed into. And the first two shoots I did were great. They were very professional. They'd been in the industry for 20 years. I would turn up. They had a script. They did everything by the book. Cannot fault them. And I was very, I was really impressed. And I thought, I can do this. If it's going to be like this, I can do this. This is good. And I walked away with loads of cash for a few hours. And then they went away with the footage, put it on their websites. And then I went from having 750 fans to like 3 ,000 fans on my page, which is what I wanted.
35:13On your OnlyFans. Yeah, basically. So you've used the Brazzers and the Pornhub to sort of boost your OnlyFans as well. It wasn't Brazzers. it was Pascal Subsluts that I did. And I was his first ever muscle girl, so it just went wild. Right. And was Ben playing any role in this? No, but he did come with me. We went to Amsterdam to shoot and he got along with Pascal really well. And to this day, I still talk to him. He's a great guy, great ethic, work ethic. And he got looked up. We all got looked after. See, I've got no idea who Pascal is, but I'm sure people in the comments will let me know. Yeah, they will.
35:44Is he really well known? He's really well known, yeah. Right, okay. No. Pascal Subsatz is like, so everyone would assume that I'm quite dominant because I'm a muscle girl. So the thing is you have to be a sub and just do what he wants, basically, which was the first time I'd ever really done anything like that. But yeah, it was good fun. So at the start of the porn industry, you thought this is quite nice. Everyone seems present enough, professional. So now talk to me about the dark side of porn that no one really realises when they're sitting there with their dick in their hand watching this stuff go on.
36:13Yeah, so it's all been made to be quite glamorous. And this is why I want to talk about all these things, because Bonnie Blue has made it to be something it's not. Like, it's great getting all this money, but actually there's a lot of shit that goes on in the background that no one really understands. And I don't want girls just falling into the same mistakes that I made. So I went onto this website and you put your profile up and people then get in contact with you to work with you. and you kind of come up with a price or how it works. And a photographer got hold of me and he was like, I'd really like to shoot with you.
36:52You've got a great body, great physique. You'd look good on my portfolio. I think we could work well together. And I looked at his reviews. Everything was fine. I looked at his work. It looked okay. And I said, oh, what would you like to do? And he was like, oh, I'd really like to be in nature. And we do like a yoga. I say yoga he wanted me in my fitness gear doing yoga stretches and a bit of pussy play a bit of bit of solo play in the woods and I was like okay awesome yeah I can do that two hours perfect and then he said then we'll go on to a hotel room and then we'll get the lingerie out and it'll be a little bit more sexual and low level lighting a bit vaunchier and I was like okay yeah awesome So named the price and I went and met him.
37:37Two hours up the road, went and met him in a car park. He looked like a normal man with a camera, looked like he was just going to go take pictures of birds in the wildlife. No one, yeah, just a normal person. And we walked for 30 minutes into the woods. And I was a bit, I just remember thinking, what am I doing? Like I'm walking aimlessly in the woods with this man. don't know him from from I don't know him at all and I said to him oh like do you know where we're going oh yeah it's just through here just just trying to find a nice quiet space but we'd walked 30 minutes and he made he was like okay we'll start here I was like okay cool so I started doing some like yoga stretches and he directed me it's what he wanted me to do the poses everything like that and then wanted me to insinuate some like solo play and I was really really happy felt really like comfortable and then I could see that he had his dick in his hand and I was a bit like this isn't part of the plan like in my brain I'm like this isn't part of the plan you didn't say that that was going to happen I never agreed to this you said to me we're going to take pictures and a few clips of me doing solo nothing so he's just like playing with his dick so I'm just like pretending that I don't see it I want to make a big like hoo-ha of it and then I start doing He wanted me to get naked So I like Start taking my clothes off Start playing with myself Like doing all these poses And then he's Proper wanking his dick And then he puts his hand On my leg And at that point I literally kick out And I'm like I've had enough I've literally had enough But I didn't make A big song and dance about it Because I didn't feel very safe Because I'm in the middle of the woods With a man that I don't know And I just want to get out And be safe So I said Look how do you want me To finish this And he just went I'll turn around I turned around.
39:26He wanked. He come. He didn't come on me, but he come. I then got dressed and we left. And it was weird. It was really, really weird. I had the cash beforehand. So he gave me the cash. And then we walked back. But I was very conscious of being friendly and over friendly because I was quite scared because I was thinking, God, if I make a big deal about this, what will he do to me? Like I would make sure I walked like behind him or next to him, not in front of him, because I was even conscious. Like you could just have something in your bag, put it around my throat and I'm dead. I didn't know. I didn't know what was going to happen.
40:02So it was just really friendly. We went back to the car and he said, look, I'll be in the hotel. This is the hotel address. I said, OK, cool. I'm just going to go and grab a drink and some lunch. I got in my car and I went home and I didn't finish the shoot and I didn't care about the cash. the fact that I put myself in such a vulnerable position and did I wasn't expecting what I didn't expect it I didn't know he was going to get his dick out start wanking and want to come I did have no idea no one told me that it wasn't part of the deal the deal was take some photos we've got a portfolio I want you on my website brilliant but yeah so I walked away feeling but I felt disappointed in myself I felt violated and I was generally quite scared of that whole situation because I was like 31 I suppose I was old enough to know better really I felt stupid I see you Avatar Fire and Ash is now streaming on Disney Plus it's the film critics are calling the best Avatar yet a true epic and completely jaw-dropping this is the only purest thing in this world return to Pandora on Disney Plus it will be an adventure for the whole family and watch the Oscar-winning phenomenon at home this is sick Avatar Fire and Ash, now streaming on Disney +, rated PG-13.
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41:58Yeah. Yeah, I do. Which is my concern of how it's just completely blown up. And another concern of mine is that people just look at women now as if they're porn stars even when they're not because there's so much of it. Yeah, we're so accessible as well. people are putting themselves on them websites and anyone, you could be anyone on that. They say they're verified these people, but that photographer, there was all good reviews. I'm thinking I couldn't have been the only person that went through that. Surely not. And I feel terrible for not putting a review on there saying, don't go near this man because I'm just as bad, but I was embarrassed and ashamed.
42:34But I thought if I did that again, no one else is going to want to work with me. So I didn't want to put a bad review on someone where it potentially could snowball and then because I was so early into the industry I didn't want to ruin my reputation and be that person does that make sense perfect sense it's damned if you do damned if you don't scared to lose money don't want to upset the wrong people and I'd imagine it's full of narcissists and psychopaths that can quite easily make your life difficult or even do terrible things and not think twice how how bad did it get what other things have you seen that shocked you to the core so So after that shoot, I was like, I'm not doing that anymore.
43:13So me and my husband kind of like come together and we said, look, we're going to shoot. We'll shoot each other. Did your husband want to kill him, by the way? He was furious, but then he felt responsible because he hadn't protected me. But he'd come to the other shoots and everything was fine. So like I said, you kind of assume every shoot's going to be like that. So I said, look, I'll be fine. You've got a tracker. You can see where I am. It's cool. So, yeah, he was heartbroken. I was heartbroken. And he said, you're never doing anything like that again. So off the website he came. So, yeah, that was just something that was just definite no.
43:46So then in the future, we said, if we're going to shoot, we're going to shoot together. You film me, I film you. We've seen each other have sex with other people. It's no big deal. And if there's a problem, you can tell me and we'll go. So that's how we did moving forward. And everything seemed to go really, really well. We made loads of good videos. but then so I wanted to meet new people and trying to find these new people is really hard so we'd go to events like exhibitions and stuff or I did to meet people to see if they would fit in my niche and I remember turning up to a warehouse there was hundreds of people everyone was like chatting to each other getting to know each other and just swapping swapping ideas swapping numbers and that's how it was supposed to go.
44:28It ended up in a massive orgy. Now to the point where no one really knew each other's certs or anything like that. So you're putting your sexual health at complete risk. So there's like a hundred people in a room just like fingering each other, banging each other. You don't know that person in the corner to that person in the corner. You don't know who they've been with, what they've been with. And that's when it got really, really messy. That one event then left a whole train of STIs throughout for months and months on end. Yeah, it was disgusting. And I remember being there going, I can't be part of this.
45:06And I left. And I think there was a few people that left, but I heard that there was a lot of, lots of things going on and people had invalidated their certs. So what, people forge in their STI certificates to say that they're clean and clear and they know damn well that they're not. And they know damn well they're not. And there's even people that had been tested, blown up positive, were on antibiotics and were in that event, knowing full well that they weren't clean. You could have been half clean, I suppose, if you've got antibiotics. You don't know if it's gone or if it's not. But yeah, they knew full well and they were putting people at risk, which blows my fucking mind.
45:45It's pretty outrageous. It is. It is. And the amount of people that were doing it. And then you've got something called, like, you've never heard of the AVNs? No. AVN Awards is in America and they've got the European Awards. It's called X-Biz Awards. So it's like best creator and most popular sex, most popular cum shot and stuff like that. So again, you've got all these porn stars in one place and it was in Amsterdam and it was in a hotel. So you've got 500 people, 500 porn stars in one place, drinking, cocaine heads, sniffing shit, everything, like people going in in the corner, popping pills, doing shots.
46:22500 people in one place in a hotel what do you think is going to happen? It's going to be a fuck fest and that's exactly what it turned out to be and again how no one was really looking at their certs or if they were they were faking their certs or going with knowing full well that their certs weren't valid. Who are more deviant in the porn industry men or women? The men. The men. I say the men but I think women are just as bad. You got some horrible women there who, again, this is partly why we come out of it. I didn't feel that, I didn't want Ben to ever come back from a shoot and have someone accuse him of being a rapist or, oh, you touched me where I didn't want to be touched because that's where it was going.
47:13you get people saying certain things and ruining someone's reputation, whether they're guilty or not, it's ruined. Where does rape fit into the whole porn industry? Because I'm sure people come to a point where they think, I don't like this anymore, I'm not enjoying this anymore, but I've committed to it, so I've got to carry on. Or if you say you feel obligated to continue when you don't want to continue, but in your head you're thinking, well, this is against my will, but I've not said it. Or what happens if you just say, stop, I don't want to know. And the actor thinks or the actress thinks, well, we've started, so we'll finish.
47:47We've actually signed. So it is consensual. I mean, there's got to be blurred lines within the porn industry and serious sexual assault. Absolutely. And I think there's a lot of them on drugs and under the influence of alcohol who come to the shoots and boundaries are pushed. And the women who are there are either talked into doing the same thing. And then before you know it, you've just opened up a clusterfuck of shit and it's just so fucking messy. and they have that instant regret of, oh my God, what just happened? Like he touched me where I didn't want to be touched. Like you said, was I raped?
48:18Or like, am I doing this because I feel forced to do it because I want the money from it kind of thing. So there are the blurred lines. And I think the more the people that were, there were so many people that were under the influence that would try and persuade you to take the drugs and take the alcohol to relax and be more okay with everything, that you just become numb to it all and just go along with it. Because wasn't there a time where I think 80 % of Pornhub's content had to be removed because it was, well, it didn't meet the criteria of it being legitimate. So also you've got fetishists that will want to watch rape scenes.
48:55Yes. So how does that play out? Yeah. And that's fucking dark. It's, and do you know what? It really bothers me actually, because there's a girl I know that was raped when she was younger. That's awful, right? But then she's on OnlyFans and she's doing consensual rape scenes. And I'm like, I don't understand the psychology behind that. How, if you, if that happened to you, why are you then acting that out again? Like, surely that's just torturing yourself over and over again. And I don't understand people that do that kind of content. But people pay for it. So people will go, oh, okay, if you're going to pay me£2 ,000,£3 ,000, I'll do that scene for you.
49:38So again, you get carried away with the money. What about the line of crime within the porn industry? For example, accidental cream pies. Do they take place? Yeah. So many times as well, it would be like, oh, okay, sorry, kind of thing, and be disregarded. I had one incident. Now, I don't know if I've ever really spoken about this to anybody. Only do it if you're comfortable talking about it. No, no. I had an incident. I went and met a professional couple. And again, I don't know if this was my fault or his fault or our fault. I'm not sure. But my rule was I don't want a cream pie. I don't want any sperm coming anywhere near me.
50:20I'm not in any contraception, so don't do it. And that was always the deal. and we'd finished the scene well we were just finishing the scene and he come all over my backside whole pussy and then he basically fingered it in to my pussy and in my my ass as well right and I remember just thinking like the camera wasn't on my face it was on behind me so you could really see what was happening and I wasn't expecting it I was not expecting that at all. And I kind of like froze. And I was like, did that really just happen? Did that really just happen? And yes, it really did happen. And I walked away from that shoot, absolutely terrified that I was going to be pregnant.
51:05Like it was just, I didn't expect it. That was not the deal. But it did actually transpire a few months later. I was speaking to someone about, I say speaking to someone, I'd heard on the grapevine that he, what's it when you have a vasectomy that you don't have any live sperm. So I would never have got pregnant. That's beside the point. I didn't know that at the time. And this is the thing, again, I just didn't want to say anything and upset anyone because they were a professional couple that had lots of links in the industry and I just wanted them to just pass on good things about me, not, well, she didn't want this and she didn't want that.
51:43She made a big deal about this. So it's a very graphic question, but it's got to be asked. So if you agree to do a shoot with somebody on the understanding that you don't come inside me and they do come inside you purposefully, is that not a form of rape? Could they not get arrested and sent to jail for that? Good question. Has it spoke about in the industry? No, it's not. I don't think it is. And again, would the police take you seriously? I'm not sure because, like you said, you've consented to certain things. That's a serious grey area that needs addressing. It does. And the industry is so saturated and like everyone's just out for themselves and just doing whatever.
52:28It's not what it was when I first started, when OnlyFans was a first a thing. Now it's just a free for all. And it's dangerous. It's a dangerous place to be. And women and men are putting themselves in vulnerable positions that need to be spoken about. Yeah, and fair play for exposing it as well, because there's no way back for you, I'm assuming. Oh, absolutely not. I haven't filmed for like 18 months. What was the final straw that got you out of the porn industry? And also, feelings-wise, that must have been very conflicting at one point, where you're earning loads of money, but you know it's not the right thing to do.
53:04There must be a transition. Did you feel like shame, guilt? Did self-loathing creep in? Any of this sort of stuff? So I caught gonorrhea. I got an STI. So, you know, on the back end of like the X-Biz Awards and everything like that, all them people, 500 people having sex with everybody. Oh, so you was part of that? I wasn't part of then, but the back end of it, three months later, it was still, there were still trains of people with the disease. So I went and filmed with a couple of guys and these guys had girlfriends as well. And that was, that was the thing. I tried to make sure I was with people that had girlfriends because I just felt that it was a safer option.
53:45They weren't just guys that were just shagging for the sake of shagging. Right. So that was my theory. Anyway, we had certs. They showed me the certs. But yeah, I blew up for gonorrhea and the one of I didn't get any symptoms, but the guy rang me and said, oh, I've blown up for gonorrhea. I'm really sorry. And I was like, well, how has this happened? Because you showed me your cert. and it's only recently transpired that he was doing the dirty on his girlfriend and sleeping with X, Y and Z outside of the industry or within the industry. That must make you re-evaluate your life. It did. So I had to go and get tested.
54:18I just felt dirty and disgusting. And so rightly, it is dirty and disgusting, but that is the risk that I took. So that's on me, but I had to have a shot in my bum for like antibiotics and I had an allergic reaction to that. And then I got tonsillitis, had to have antibiotics for that, got an allergic reaction to that, ended up in hospital, didn't recover for like six months. It was a terrible time. My body just did not like me. And that's when it hit me and I was like, I need to get out of here. I need to get out of this industry. This is not good for me. And I knew I didn't want to have sex with another man ever again.
54:58So you're now a one man woman. Yes, I am. What about the swinging? Nope. All done. All out your system? All out my system. Chapter closed. What about romanticising about it? No. Me and my husband had a conversation about that, actually. But no, there is nothing. No, it literally done, dusted. Six months of my life, I was basically bedbound, just like, literally like, I can't do anything. I couldn't go to the gym. I couldn't eat properly. I couldn't function. My body was just not happy. But then there was the reality of, where am I going to make my money? And so, yeah, that was a shock. So we got rid of our house.
55:37We started living a little bit of a simpler life because when you got that money, you just go, yeah, I'll just buy this. I'll go on that holiday. I'll do this. Where do you go from porn? Well, yes, exactly. Where am I going to get this money from? So, but we got rid of the house and we bought an American RV. We lived in our gym car park, right? And what we did, we thought, right, what are we going to do? So a bit like the whole OnlyFans thing at first. We were like, how can we now move our boundaries and 10x the business? So we kind of had that thought with the gym, the first gym. How are we going to go from what we're earning now to 10x in it?
56:11And we invested some money that we had into our first gym, blew it up. Within three months, we'd filled up, busting at the seams. And then we were like, right, now what? And then we built another gym, a reformer, Pilates studio, a recovery studio with infrared, sauna, ice bath, hyperbaric oxygen chamber, red light therapy, small group, personal training studio. So we've got like a fitness hub now. We've created a fitness hub. Ah, so you've gone back to your passion projects before you chased the money. Yeah. So The OnlyFans is completely done as well. So I haven't shot for two years. The OnlyFans still runs in the background.
56:50I had like, it will die. Because, I mean, the whole thighs, soles and holes thing, that's not sleeping with other men. That's still you just sort of selling parts of yourself, which is far less gratuitous and invasive than sleeping with other men that could give you gonorrhea. Yes, exactly. So I'm not, yeah, there's no collabing with anybody. It is all, everything that I've made is there, still available, but it will be going. So that's, you're even going to divorce from that completely? Yeah, so the tables are turned. We were earning anywhere between 35 and 50 grand a month from OnlyFans. And now we're doing that and more with the gym.
57:27So why am I going to keep this rolling? Before I ask you one of the final questions, which is some sort of advice to your younger self and people that want to get into the industry, how much money did you make on the whole selling and using your body as a vehicle? So across all platforms, it was about 1.8 million. So I see you. Avatar Fire and Ash is now streaming on Disney+. It's the film critics are calling the best Avatar yet. A true epic and completely jaw-dropping. This is the only purest thing in this world. Return to Pandora on Disney+. It will be an adventure for the whole family. And watch the Oscar-winning phenomenon at home.
58:12This is sick! Avatar Fire and Ash, now streaming on Disney+. Rated PG-13. And we're back. streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The certified fresh series returns. Your boss. You always like this or is this just an act? Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. So I'm not a Bonnie Blue, but it's given me enough to invest in my future.
59:00And what do you think of Bonnie Blue? Each to her own. Good for her. If it doesn't affect you mentally like it did me or physically, then yeah, you do you. But I don't like the message it can give to people in regards to glamorising the porn industry. I don't even like calling myself a porn star because that's not the case. I was a sex worker, which sounds not as glamorous. So, yeah, each to their own. If she's doing well, let her do well. Yeah, she gets a lot of hate. I got a lot of hate just by interviewing her, but I wasn't going along encouraging it. I was actually challenging her, saying, these are all the things I think are wrong with what you're doing and how repulsive I find it.
59:44But even that, I was the devil reincarnated just for speaking to her. It's not like she doesn't care. Yeah, she's, I don't know. There's nothing there. She's very good at PR. There is that. And she's got some good people behind her to put her in the right places. And if it works for her, I would never, if someone gave me that opportunity and said, oh, I can put you in LA. I can put you here. I can put you there. You've just got to do this. You've got, you've got to go and sleep with all these men. No, thank you. Absolutely not. I mean, I thought I was doing God's work. I mean, it was the kind of interview I'd like my stepdaughter to watch.
1:00:17but this really isn't an ideal direction to go down it's just it's just extreme and that's off the fucking head but what advice would you give to any young girls now because I think a lot of people are looking at porn actresses adult stars thinking this is the way to go because it just the end result is mega money I mean 1.8 million is is huge life-changing sum that you've made but what advice would you give to young women considering entering into the world of pornography and OnlyFans? It's not worth it. I really... And do your research. Do your research. But I would advise not to do it. I think in a few years, OnlyFans won't even be a thing.
1:00:59And the thing is, the reason why I made so much money is because I've got a niche. And a lot of the girls don't have a niche. You can go on there and you can make$200. That's an interesting point. You've got a niche. so really you can stay in that lane and play it relatively safe whereas if you're just you're competing with other girls the only way to get attention is to go extreme exactly and I always said to myself I would never do anything if it got leaked that I'd be embarrassed or ashamed about so any videos that get leaked and I go okay yeah that's cool I did that it was relatively normal there's nothing extreme whereas some of these girls and like moving the boundaries constantly constantly always trying to do one extra and I just don't think it's worth it.
1:01:43Absolutely not worth it. No. And the future. My future. Yeah. I wish I had a little crystal ball. What do you want out of life? I want to give something back. I want to do what I'm passionate about. And that is the world of fitness. And I want to help. I want to help people. I want to help people wake up and look after themselves, take responsibility of their health. and don't be sucked in by all the propaganda that is around at the moment that like you shouldn't be eating red meat and you shouldn't be going to the gym and you shouldn't be lifting weights and you shouldn't be doing this and you shouldn't be doing that.
1:02:22It drives me insane. I want to help people live a longer, healthier, safer life. Where can people find you watching this? What platforms are you on? I'm on Instagram, Kirsty Stroud. Just type in my name. You'll find me. Even just type my name into Google, you'll find me. So Instagram is the main? Is the main thing, yeah. I'm not on YouTube. X? I am on X, Muscle Girl. So yeah, Muscle Girl 31. We'll put your links in the description so people come and find. And before I wrap it up, anything else you want to say? Final message to the masses? No, thank you for having me. I really appreciate your time.
1:02:59And I appreciate your honesty. You're welcome. And I like people exposing industries that appear to be glamorous on the surface, but really they're very fucking damaging. If you've enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe to the channel. It takes two seconds and it costs exactly zero. And for as long as you do that, I can keep bringing interesting guests onto the show that the mainstream never would in a million years for obvious reasons. And on that note, I wish you and Ben the best of luck, a bright future and stay safe. Thank you. Thank you.
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Kirsty Stroud, who was born with her organs outside her body, became a prison officer at a very young age, and lifts the lid on what it was like in the lion's den.
She reveals the shocking corruption inside the prison system (including a governor demanding sexual favours), and the smuggling that goes on for big money.
When the pandemic hit, her husband suggested she start OnlyFans using her elite CrossFit physique. What started as teasing photos of her muscles, soles and more exploded — she made £1.8 million across platforms, collabed with big names in the adult industry, and lived the high life… until the dark reality hit.
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