In short
Big Stacks (British influencer/“artist”) discusses prison violence, his mental health (hypermania/bipolar-like episodes and psychosis), upbringing on a council estate, drug use, and how he now frames his persona online while claiming he’s changed and stays disciplined. He also talks about hate/“rage baiting,” streaming, and possible fights on Misfits.
Guests
Big Stacks (main guest; from Southend; says he was arrested from age 10, sent to detention at 12, later sectioned under the Mental Health Act at 18; served multiple prison stints including a 13-year sentence for GBH; now a live-streaming influencer and boxer-in-training). Host: Sierra/Propel-branded interviewer (no personal name given in transcript).
Key claims
Jail “felt safe” at 12; weed/drugs “fried” his brain and triggered hypermania; he regrets a bat assault; he says he’s no longer violent and makes “legit” money; online persona is partly performative and attracts threats.
Notable examples
Bat attack on a man he says was involved in a setup (fractured skull, broken knee, “loads of injuries,” 13-year sentence; served 6.5 years); sectioning at 18 after “hypermania” and alleged paranoia; alleged prison “parcels/screws” for contraband; fingered a female officer (no sex).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBig Stacks: Controversial Character
0:45 to 1:57
Big Stacks discusses the perception of him and his violent past.
“I fractured his scars, broke his knee count, and there was loads of injuries.”
Upbringing and Early Life of Big Stacks
2:00 to 2:56
Exploring Big Stacks' childhood and how it led to his first jail sentence.
“I've seen life-changing money be made and community members free up more time to spend with their families.”
The Early Years of Crime and Jail
2:59 to 3:55
Big Stacks shares his experiences with crime and his early time in jail.
“So every, I'm in school, I'm just fighting.”
Life in Detention and Mental Health
3:56 to 5:10
Big Stacks reflects on his time in detention and mental health support.
“We live in a state where it's a thief to eat and all that shit.”
Escalation of Violence and Consequences
5:13 to 7:51
Discussion on how Big Stacks' violence escalated and led to severe penalties.
“And what kind of support did you get in there?”
Mental Health Struggles and Coping Mechanisms
7:52 to 9:11
Big Stacks talks about his mental health challenges and coping strategies.
“So jail again at 18 and what was that for?”
Reflection on Violence and Remorse
10:00 to 11:49
Big Stacks discusses his feelings about violence and the impact on others.
“What was the diagnosis of your mental health?”
Legal Troubles and Court Experiences
11:50 to 14:01
Big Stacks recounts his experiences with the legal system following his violent acts.
“do you nah that was my fifth I was saying because from 14 in and out in and out from 15 in and out in and out oh okay until 18 Then they noticed, obviously.”
Reflecting on Past Actions
14:01 to 15:40
The guest discusses feelings of remorse regarding his actions that led to court appearances.
“I could have been involved in someone else's pattern, do you know what I mean?”
Life Inside Prison
15:41 to 17:14
Insights into the guest's prison life, interactions with screws, and the dynamics within.
“six and a half that's a fair old stint and were the screws on side or against you in there?”
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Violence and Reputation
17:15 to 19:34
The guest talks about his reputation as a fighter and experiences with prison violence.
“Unless I'm beefing in, they ain't got beefing me, if you know what I mean.”
Personal Growth Post-Prison
19:35 to 22:36
Discussion on how the guest has changed since leaving prison and his current mindset.
“Because you're a money man now, you're on social media.”
Controversy and Online Persona
22:37 to 24:46
The guest reflects on his online persona and the reactions he receives from the public.
“Like, since doing that, when I come out of 28, I'm 32 now.”
Future Aspirations and Combat Sports
24:47 to 28:00
The guest discusses potential boxing matches and future plans in the combat sports arena.
Big Stacks and HS Tiki Tiki: Rivalry and Respect
28:00 to 29:51
Learn about the dynamic between Big Stacks and HS Tiki Tiki, including their competitive nature and mutual respect.
“If you're going to go around recording live stuff, you've got to be cocky.”
Confrontations and Influencer Culture
29:51 to 30:30
Explore Big Stacks' experiences with confrontations in the influencer scene and the motivations behind them.
“And then all of a sudden there's Eubank.”
The Dangers of Live Streaming
31:00 to 32:57
Discuss the risks associated with live streaming and how Big Stacks navigates threats and violence.
“With Gatorade electrolytes, zero sugar, and vitamins, Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self.”
Relationships and Personal Struggles
32:57 to 34:29
Big Stacks opens up about his relationships, infidelity, and personal challenges.
“Because she knew, like, I couldn't be with her.”
Travel Dreams and Life Beyond the UK
34:29 to 36:26
Hear about Big Stacks' desire to travel, his experiences, and the limitations he's faced.
“Every night I go out, I used to get mad punch-ups.”
Business Acumen in the Influencer World
36:26 to 37:30
Big Stacks discusses his business mindset and the financial opportunities in live streaming.
“It's literally, everything just gets handled.”
The Reality of Adult Entertainment
37:30 to 39:51
An in-depth discussion on Big Stacks' views on the adult entertainment industry and its impact.
“On a day-to-day basis, you walk around and say, it happens in the street.”
Future Aspirations and Options
39:51 to 42:01
Big Stacks reflects on his future, exploring career options beyond live streaming and acting.
“Like mentally they're just, but they're so happy with the money, they feel like everything's right when it's not, do you know what I mean?”
Big Stacks Talks Fame and Content Creation
42:01 to 45:28
Learn about Big Stacks' rise to fame, his content strategy, and the public's reaction.
“Whatever deals they get me, they get a certain percentage, but most deals come my way anyway.”
Reflections on Life in the UK
45:29 to 46:22
Hear Big Stacks discuss his opinions on life in the UK, its challenges, and social dynamics.
“I've been in and out, in and out, and she's probably happy I'm fucking out now just doing my thing.”
Plans for the Future and Personal Goals
46:23 to 47:46
Big Stacks shares his aspirations for family life and career development.
“Do you know, it's a shame that you're going to really struggle to get into America because I think you do the best over there.”
The Real Big Stacks: Behind the Act
48:33 to 50:34
An exploration of Big Stacks' character, motivations, and real-life persona.
“This week here, I'm packing all drinking, money, no girls, just training.”
Transcript
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0:41What propels you? Propel with Gatorade electrolytes. A lot of people hate me. Genuinely, I get under their skin. Why do you think that is? Fuck you. Do you know what I mean? Caved in with a bat. I was raging that you just set me up. Obviously, I took it over the top. How badly did you do it? I fractured his scars, broke his knee count, and there was loads of injuries. Yeah, it was bad. He couldn't walk for a long time. When I went to jail, I liked it. I got nine for that, but I was selling drugs at the same time, so I got four years on top. I made a bit of money in jail. I know how to make money, do you know what I mean?
1:07How was you getting the stuff in? Just parcels, man. Screws. In town, breaching my as-bos, trying to sell all this gear. Started fighting with loads of old bills. Went to jail on purpose. My head was gone. I didn't know I was crazy. It was called hypomania. I couldn't sleep. I was even screaming in my head like, yeah, I was moving crazy. So you got sectioned whilst you were in jail? I used to do porn. It's not for me. My problem is I can't stop cheating. I like pretty girls. I like slaggy looking girls. I can't help myself. I just love fucking little slags. See if someone needs a slag, I'll go give them a slag.
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2:37Big Stacks, thanks for coming on. I'm interested in seeing the more serious side of you. I want to talk about prison, mental health, the person versus the persona and the statement that you're Britain's artist man but take me back give me a little bit about your upbringing and take me up to the point where you got sent to jail for the first time when you was as young as 12 yeah obviously I come from a council estate my mum my dad died at the age of 6 after that my mum went to shit basically she started drinking alcohol sort of yeah she went about so we was from like 8 we was on the streets we was we were just little cunts I was living in the council estate we used to go stealing we used to go robbing we used to do everything I was getting in trouble from the age of 10 I started getting arrested Is this South End?
3:20Yeah, this is South End, yeah. So every, I'm in school, I'm just fighting. Obviously, I was lost. I was just doing the maddest shit. Do you know what I mean? And at 12, I kept getting arrested over and over again. So they had to send me to prison. So it was just fighting, beating up kids, hitting teachers, just violence from them. Do you know what I mean? Just completely unmanageable. Yeah. I was on tag at the age of 12. They couldn't cope. And it was the last, I was on something called ISSP. We get so much probation, like youth offending school, but it's probation a week it's been on tag you have to do all this shit and then that's the last chance I kept getting arrested so they had to send me to prison when I was 12 it was crazy because when I went to jail I liked it because it was like obviously you get fed three times a day they treat you like babies you know what I mean you're in prison did you feel safe in there kind of like it was just kids the same as just me do you know what I mean it was just all little cunts together and it was yeah it was different it was a different experience and obviously because the home life weren't all that so when I come back on Obviously, there weren't a lot of food.
4:19You know what I mean? Nothing was at home. We live in a state where it's a thief to eat and all that shit. When you say your mum went to pot when your dad died. She started drinking. She'd become, yeah, she started drinking. Obviously, it was all for her, do you know what I mean? I don't hate her for anything like that. I'm happy the way I turn out. Yeah, yeah. But it just, like, it wasn't a good life at home, do you know what I mean? What was your dad like? Do you remember him in the living years? Yeah, he was the man. Like, he was the man in the house. Like, he was good. Obviously, he's a bit of a bad boy as well.
4:43He was a big, angry-looking cunt. Do you know what I mean? But, yeah, he was good stuff. But he's a family man. How did he die? Kidney failure. He died at age of 40, so he died quite young. So when your dad passed, was there any other role model in your life? No one at all. Older kids on the estate? Yeah, I had an older brother, but he was a prick. I've had family and that, but we all looked after ourselves, didn't we? So we were just on the estate and just doing our own thing. I just learnt to offend by myself. So what do they call it? Is it a young offender centre when you're going in there at 12?
5:12Detention centre, yeah. Especially young offenders. And what kind of support did you get in there? Did you have child therapy? Was there a psychiatrist that looked after you? Kind of, but I've always got told to say, do you know what I mean? Just act like if it's cool. And obviously, yeah, you do that when you're young. I had a child psychiatrist when I was probably about that age. I was a very angry young man because of my circumstances. But I don't really remember much about it. I just remember them being there, speaking to them, but nothing really, maybe I was blocking it out. I was just wondering if you remember.
5:42I've never spoke to anyone. I've always sucked in, even in prison just now. I have to have a lot of therapy and all that because they keep saying, why are you so violent? Because I'm high risk. They're saying, they've got to be saying the triggers that. They wanted me to do a big counselling. And I said, no, fuck that. So how long did you spend in the detention centre for from 12? Just two months. So it's 42, yeah. And did that change your attitude at all, make you think, I better stop fighting and robbing? No, it was worse. Because you had to. when you're coming out to nothing again, you're getting straight to that.
6:14I come out to the estate, same friend, same family, do you know what I mean? And all my mates, they used to just steal everything. We used to rob cars, we used to rob bikes, we used to rob everything. So back then, obviously we had to make our money. But I had a lot of money. When I was young, I've always made money. I've always been on myself. So even now that I've stacked up, I save my money, I know how to make my own money. I've never allowed on it. Even when I go to jail, I didn't ask for nothing. So how did you progress through the ranks then? So from 12, you've done a couple of months, then you've come out because you got sectioned under the Mental Health Act when you was 18.
6:4518, yeah. So what happened in those years? How did your mental health spiral? Mate, I used to smoke a lot of weed. I remember I went to jail one time. I lost my head on the roads and I started making loads of money. I've started doing loads of things and I had an ASBO from town because I've had ASBOs, conjunction, all that, everything. And then I'm walking around like a madman trying to, I'm in town, breaching my ASBOs, trying to sell all this gear, trying to look for like workers and that. But I was moving mad. I knew I was fighting with loads of old Bill went to jail on purpose because I was like if I go to jail I'll get loads of boys to come and start working for me take over I made this mad plan in your head my head was gone I didn't realise it at the time I've got like ADHD I'm moving crazy I couldn't there was so much focus in my head I didn't know I was crazy it was called hypermania so I was just going the first time I was like oh I couldn't calm down when I went to jail I couldn't sleep for like a week I couldn't sleep until they shipped me out and I'm still I went to Gimpala I'm moving crazy on the wing like everyone's trying to talk to me and I'm like I'm thinking I'm trying to fight everyone I was moving crazy I didn't know like obviously I was tapped So you got sectioned whilst you were in jail?
7:50Yeah Oh okay From jail yeah So jail again at 18 and what was that for? More violence? Or was that drug related? Yeah violence because I started fighting with a police I went to jail on purpose basically because I had this mad crazy mind in my head like plan in my head to go and get all these workers come down and start taking over so I think I mean it was just And how long did you get the second time round? I've still got seven months, but I've done my sentence, and then obviously where I was so under the mental health out there to keep me in mental health was poor. And what was that like? Did you feel lost, supported?
8:23Yeah, lost. I was like the younger, I was 18. There's no 18-year-olds there. I was like hyper, I was like a big kid, running around, moving crazy, and obviously I was on the phone saying, right, we're going to do this to that old bill, we're going to take over, I'm going to kidnap my, do you know what I mean? If they released me that time, I would have caught a big sentence. Do you know what I mean? Because my head was gone. I was thinking, I was just thinking crazy thoughts about everyone. Even like certain people that have done me wrong in my life. I'm like, wait till I get out. You fuck, do you know what I mean?
8:48I'm thinking. Is that all paranoia through the weed? It's a paranoia. Just like, yeah, yeah, kind of. It was the weed that fucked up my brain. But it wasn't paranoia because obviously I knew certain people done me wrong. And in my head, I'm planning to do all this mad shit. Obviously, it was the mental health. and then after they kept giving me tablets, tablets, tablets and then after I've slowly calmed down. Obviously, I knew it. As soon as I smoke weed again or any sort of drug, it's totally crazy. Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands for the super athletic stuff like running gear for cruising up the trail.
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10:00Yeah, I dropped it out from them. What was the diagnosis of your mental health? Hypermania. It's an episode of hypermania. So it's bipolar. That's the sign of bipolar. Right. Because it's up and down. But I was up. They're up constantly. Like 24-7 raging. I couldn't sleep. I was even screaming in my head like, yeah, I was moving crazy. It's a psychosis as well. Yeah, yeah. Would they give you meds? Are you still doing them now? No, no, no, no. I stopped it years ago from that. Because it was an episode. That's what it was. So my mental health is there at the back of my head. Yeah. It depends. If I start taking drugs all the time, yeah, I'm going to be mental.
10:30but I've learnt myself how to cope myself. I mean, I learnt myself as a person. Yeah, 18. See, at 18, I'd lost my head. Yeah. Down to psychosis and being given drugs at a very young age and it fries your brain completely. What mechanisms did you use to cope to get through that period? Because it's heavy. After coming out? Yeah. I was all right. I went straight back to my life and I was better because I wasn't suffering. Exercise, change of company, literature. No, but them times I was at 18, We was in a little gang and it was, do you know what I mean? I was with my friends and, yeah, we were just on the streets all the time.
11:04But, yeah, we was having a laugh. You're 18 years old, do you know what I mean? And my 18 years, like, it was sick back then. But you're still a maniac when you come out. Yeah, I'm a scrapper, but I weren't as tapped as I would, do you know what I mean? There's scrappers and then there's violent people. Are you familiar with violence or scrapping? It depends if people do me wrong or something. But I always know my strength. So, see if someone needs a slap, I'll go give them a slap. Someone needs to get punched up, I'll go punch them up. but I ain't violent I don't want to physically do damage where I go I don't want to hurt them unless I have to do you know what I mean you're not graphically violent you don't sit there and think I want to take their ears off their heads or any of that no no no no okay if someone done me wrong ridiculously yeah I would have thought that but I've never been done I just feel like yeah if you've done this you said that give me a little beating do you know what I mean that's it so that's two stints in jail you've been sectioned do you nah that was my fifth I was saying because from 14 in and out in and out from 15 in and out in and out oh okay until 18 Then they noticed, obviously.
11:59Okay, so the significant one where you got 13 years. Like, what happened there? What's the story there? I was 22. I was selling drugs. I was in gangs and all that shit. White, green? Yeah, a bit of sniff, yeah. I had a little sniff line and fucking some other gang members, whatever. They sort of tried to set me up. And I'd be for them. I went to meet someone. They've come with a baseball bat, tried to do me. They've dropped the baseball at runoff. I basically took it out and the geezer that set me up I got the geezer that set me up and just I caved him in with a bat but yeah it was out of obviously I was a bit drunk I was raging that you just set me up yeah I just done it obviously I took it over the top how did you find out it was him that arranged it because we met at the same spot we was going to meet him all of a sudden the other kids come and try to do us I mean it might not have been him yeah it might have been a coincidence but in my head at that time raging how the fuck do you know it's obviously my man So when my man come out, I don't even think, see now to this day, I don't even think he set me up.
12:58Why is he going to come out after? Do you know what I mean? He's come and met me. I just batted him with a bat, thinking he set me up. So you've potentially beaten someone senseless? Yeah. Because you call it wrong? Maybe, yeah. Have you spoke to him since? I try to speak to him after. Obviously, he hates me. I've damaged his life, do you know what I mean? How badly did you do him? I fractured his skull. I broke his knee count and there was loads of injuries. Yeah, it was bad. He couldn't walk for a long time. So what was that, GBH with intent? 16, 18, yeah. 13 years. I got nine for that, but I was selling drugs at the same time, so I got four years on top.
13:28Okay, so that's a big stint. What jail did you go into and what was it like in there? I went to Chelmsford, but I've always sort of, that's my local, so I've always done quite well in there. Like, I know everyone, everyone respects me, do you know what I mean? Then I started, I went to a B-cat, a big B-cat in Loudon Grange. Then I settled down, because at first I was around all drugs, all that. I've always been a graft-haw. In jail, I've always... Moving bits in there. Yeah, I made a bit of money in John to make money, do you know what I mean? How was you getting the stuff in? Just parcels, man.
13:55Screws, throw over. Yeah, there's all the difference. So you had the screws allegedly on the payroll. Yeah, but that's how people get in. I could have been involved in someone else's pattern, do you know what I mean? I could put a bit of dough in and I've always made my money in prison. Do you feel remorseful that you've weighed somebody in possibly? I did, yeah. Because after, that's what they said in court. Because after I said, look, I'm so sorry. I'm like, I didn't mean to do it, but you did set me up kind of thing. Blah, blah, let me give you some money. Let's sort out some money, innit? I was going to give you some money and just leave it as that.
14:26But he's a road man himself. He's a road boy, yeah, yeah. But it's his bird. His bird was not happy. Do you know what I mean? His bird got in his head. They was thinking about compo. Do you know what I mean? It was, mate, there's more to it. On his statement, in court, I'm a madman. You don't know who I am. I've jumped out, whacked him up for no reason. I'm just a lunatic. So obviously it was category one, yeah, at first. I was looking at starting point in 12 years or something like that, yeah. But as it come in court, you know what I mean? There's texies. It's like, even the judge said, this don't add up.
14:55I mean, you know Charlie, like there's texies getting between you two. But the guy that you weighed in, even though you could have got it wrong, he's not a straight goer. Yeah, he's not a straight goer at all. So you sort of live by the sword, die by the sword. Yeah, but I shouldn't have done what I'd done. It was more out of rage. I was on steroids at the time as well. I was on, do you know what I mean? I was drinking and the geezer that jumped out on me this is like my main enemy like I've been on to him like I've been chasing him down for so long right and it was like he's come at me like I didn't even come with a bat they've come at me smashed the window dropped the bat ran off we're chasing him the bat's landed obviously it must have vibrated landed in our car do you know what I mean obviously the bat's in our car and then after I'm like fuck that we checked and I said let's go meet Wes the geezer so out the 13 years how many did you serve?
15:41six and a half that's a fair old stint and were the screws on side or against you in there? They love me, but certain times, obviously there was one incident where they've come in and fucked me up. Obviously, I've got a phone. They've tried to batter me. I'm a strong lad. I'm fighting them off and they've literally pinned me down and just batted me until I broke my ring. They fucked me up. Right. And then it was mad because they turned it against me. I got arrested for assaulting all them. Nearly got charged. It was just a dead case. They threw it out. But they do. The screws love me because I ain't a scumbag.
16:11I ain't a prick. Do you know what I mean? I'm a gentle giant. I'm not going attitude. Yeah, I ain't a bully or anything. Do you know what I mean? They know I'm like a dickhead. They know I'm a record, like. What about the female screws? I mean, you're a good-looking bloke, and there's been recent reports that female screws have been having sex with a cons in there. Did you get propositioned? I had one, yeah. There was one screw. She was my little girl for a bit. It was like a little thing, you know. So you slept with her? I didn't bang her. I was doing other bits, yeah. How far did the bits go?
16:36I fingered her. Was it like being back at school? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was no... It's hard to bang a screw. You have to jump in Because there's so much camera There's so much It's hard to actually Get it in quickly Like you're in a rush And getting caught Obviously you both Don't want to get caught It's a charge for both of you Isn't it What about any Any male relations in there Did you get intimate With any men in there No no of course not Because it happens Yeah yeah yeah No it didn't happen There's a few rumours That are floating about about you Yeah it's all bollocks And what's the demographic In jail around your area Who's running the jails South End's not really like that Honestly I've got a big name for them Everyone just knows I'm a great guy Everyone respects me from Southend.
17:14So they know I ain't got no beef. Unless I'm beefing in, they ain't got beefing me, if you know what I mean. Everyone's around my area soft. That would have beef with. Southend's where the Essex boys used to go terrorise the place, wouldn't it? But it's not like, when I was young, I've always been around the young, and I'm a big kid for my age, you know what I mean? I'm a fighter for my age. There's obviously other geezers, like I won't go near, you know what I mean, I won't fight them, but me and them, they would never cross paths. I was sort of a gang man, but these little proper Essex boys, we're totally different people.
17:41Was there any infamous villains that you used to look up to and think, I quite like that lifestyle, wouldn't mind being like them? Yeah, all the drug dealers, man. You know what it's like? They're flashy. I mean, they're not bullies or nothing. You just say they've got a calm persona. Like, if anyone that makes money, it's all the dickheads. You know, the violent ones that ain't got fuck all and just, they hate life. Yeah. They're just mugs, yeah. So you was more popular in jail than you were ruthless? Yeah, kind of. Or a bit of both. They know I'm hands-on. That's it. If I have to get a crack in, if I have to punch someone up, everyone knows, like, if I've got beef, like, obviously, because I used to have a lot of fights in jail, but I know how to do it.
18:17I don't do it on site. I'll just go in the cell, batter them quickly, come out, jacked, done, no cameras, do you know what I mean? Would you always use your hands or ever at all? I've used a tool. I've used, like, tuner and stuff if I have to. Like, a few people, like, there was, like, six guys who rushed me, and they were so weak, do you know what I mean? Obviously, they've all come with tools. After that, every time I got one of them, I just battered them with the same tools that come with me. And who's pulling the strings in the nick from prison experience? Fucking B-Cats. Yeah, Muslims do pull the strings.
18:44Because I remember one incident. Just come to a B-Cat. I don't know what B-Cat's like. It don't matter. Any other jail, you punch up a Muslim, whatever. Don't give a fuck. No one really cares. I mean, he's just any guy. But I went to a B-Cat. I remember I got a crack in with some Muslim kids, some Asian kids. Banged him. Got in his cell. Started punching him up. And then all the Muslims come. And obviously they were respectful. They said, you can't do that. I said, move, man. We're having a fight. Get out. Leave us alone, yeah? Because obviously we're fighting. They said, you can't fight a Muslim.
19:13I said, what do you mean I can't fight a Muslim, yeah? They said, what the fuck? And then obviously they just said, if you're fighting one of us, we're going to rush you kind of thing. You fight us all. Yeah, but the beef was just a heated moment. The beef was dead anyway. It was a dead fight. And it was just, yeah, they just said it can't happen. That's why I was like, what? And obviously then I found out, obviously B cats, A cats, all that. It runs like that. They stick together. Yeah. Yeah. and we don't really yeah that's true even white guys don't no and we never really have no even back in the day I mean even when I mean going back to my days when I used to go nightclub and it was always white geezers fighting each other I never used to witness racism I just used to see white geezers fighting each other over a bird or spilling their drink or some fucking mindless shit like that it's all changed over the years so you're six and a half years in the shovel then you get released like did you actually change then Yeah, from about...
20:05Because you're a money man now, you're on social media. Yeah, all day long. But yeah, it's changed. Still, I'm not... Do you know what I mean? If someone needs a slap, that's it. I would never change that. Like, I wouldn't get... I wouldn't go and batter someone for no reason. But it's the same. I'm still the same geezer, but I've learned, like... I go to events, I get called out. I've learned to hold my temper. Why the fuck am I fighting? I will never have a fight in the street and go back to jail. Like, even on nights out, when people... Do you know what I mean? I could easily get in conflict.
20:31So, because... do, they try to draw me out, little nerds, and I just think, oh, mate, whatever, do you know what I mean? Why am I fighting? If I fight out, I've got two and a half years' licence. I'm not going back to jail for any little prick that I don't even know the geezer. I was having a flick through your social media last night, because I knew you was coming on today, and I see you get a hell of a lot of hate. Yeah, I do, yeah, yeah. Why do you think that is? Do you know what? Honestly, I go out, when I go out, I go out in big places, Liverpool, Manchester, and all the proper geezers love me.
21:02Like, they proper, because they know I'm taking a piss but it's all the people that don't understand it they're probably insecure in their self and they look at me like look at this I'm not a bad looking fella and I'm always around birds and do you know what I mean I'll take the piss and I've got the most beautiful girls I'll do porn and that do you know what I mean people are probably thinking this little cocky cut he thinks he's a bollock do you know what I mean because people do envy like even before when I ain't doing fuck all and someone's just doing sometimes you're like what a little prick I don't like that kid but for no reason at all but I can understand it but when I go out I get so much love no one hates you you can tell a little people don't really want to say hello to me probably because they can't stand but they see it for what it is like they're probably nice banter so really online you're a character rather than yeah so who are you off camera I'm probably the nicest geyser of me yeah I'm humble I'm calm I'm loyal I've got alright I've got alright morals yeah do you know what I mean like I'm not a bad fella at all unless you're weighing any wrong people with bats yeah that was back then man I wouldn't do that again but it was I regret it a lot and I wouldn't be around the same situation again.
22:06Like, my temper's calmed. Like, back then, I had a big ego. Like, I wanted to be the guy. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You'd just end up life-toff or dead, wouldn't you? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I was worried about because all my pals said, you're going to be life-toff. Everyone said that. And I had a lot of... I was doing mad shit. I was beefing the wrong people and at certain times with guns. Like, they've had guns. Do you know what I mean? I'm still trying to beef them. I didn't care about guns. Do you know what I mean? That's why it was my ego's too much. And so all of this side of stuff, the prison, the sticking it on people with guns, that ain't bullshit.
22:32It did happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. I've always been around crime. But since coming out, I changed, man. Like, since doing that, when I come out of 28, I'm 32 now. Like, I've literally, I've been so full. I'm legit. I ain't done nothing illegal. I make legit, good, legit my money. Do you know what I mean? I'm happy with life. Obviously, I can't lie. If I didn't have this avenue to make money or anything, I probably would have gone back to crime. I want to be skinned I'm not the geezer that will just suffer But you're confident you won't go back this time? 100 % Yeah Because mate I know my See the road I'm on now It's like Mate My head's clean And you're disciplined?
23:09Yeah very disciplined Yeah all day long Focused? Yeah focused No I ain't got no girl Do you know what I mean I'm just happy doing what I do Have you ever stumbled across Bonnie Blue in your Kind of yeah All my friends down there I had the opportunity the other day but it's never I had a girl and she did not let me work with women in that industry and I've had a few, yep, gangbang, Bonnie Blue and I've missed out on it. But I would, I don't give a shit, I would. I'll work with the worst people on purpose. I mean, just to get more traction. That's what I'll do. That's how I'll be. So you're a rage baiter?
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23:41I'm a rage baiter, yeah. Because rage baiting is a thing. Yeah, of course. But that's a dangerous thing, rage baiting, I've thought, because you obviously, you put the wrong version of yourself out who you aren't really. But people on the internet think you're that person then you become a target and especially the fact that you're such a big lump I put a statement out there I sat in my car I was just fucking about it I said look and I was being dead serious to the camera I am the hardest man in the UK there's not one man to any type of skill level I'll smash your face in bare knuckle in fight I was just chatting shit and in the end I'm like I'm the hardest double R, triple R I'm fucking so hard everyone took that so serious even like big fighters coming for me I'll fight you I'll fight you and every event I go to I go to a lot of boxing of the thing most of them love me but there's a lot of people you think you are but I'm like are you being serious you think I'm because obviously now I've not shit that up because obviously it was getting me in a lot of trouble I can't lie there was a lot of serious fellas that wanted to do me do you know what I mean but now I'm just come on man I'm not going to do that forever you can't just go along like you are because a lot of people it's a niche yeah a lot of people have stated I'm not and they're fucking nerds where I actually probably look quite odd I'm a big lump and obviously they're pretty little dick anything do you know what I mean people actually thought they were serious that's why but Coogan my mate said how have you done this to the end you know Coogan no the IFL TV don't you know it's the boxing channel I've seen him interview you a few times yeah yeah yeah yes he said how because he's had so much phone calls from serious men saying who the fuck is this little cunt yeah and he's like come on mate you should know because he interviewed me and it was like I was being dead serious to him like he didn't know I was being serious but I literally goes come on mate like you're not the artist I said what do you mean I'm not the artist you called something and I've walked off yeah got the arm in my head I'm taking the piss he's on camera yeah but everyone took that so shit who's this fucking little guy some serious fighter even like down my area and then after they've like who's like mate look what he's doing and they look into it and feel like oh do you know what I mean it didn't take me too long to realise it it was a character now but before I was dead serious and everything I'd done you leant right into it yeah and obviously I got phone calls from serious fighters and I'm like mate obviously Paul Payne Paul Payne has meeting him going back to back yeah Paul Venice yeah Paul Venice yeah and it's like everyone's like if you want to fight Paul is it like oh I would not get in the ring with that man to save my life I'll promise you that but I'll like everyone to know I will do you know what I mean and eventually yeah I'm training now I'll probably fight him but I ain't gonna win these guys any training fighters I ain't gonna win but see the original beef of you and Paul Venice because he's very very very Andy in the ring very serious so it was serious yeah but and then obviously now we just take the piss out of each other do you know what I mean and if you're like he'll love to box me I'll love to box you know what I mean but I know I ain't gonna land the fucking punch for that cunt, yeah?
26:21But, I don't know, deep down I like the geezer. I don't hate him, it's not malicious. Are you relieved that that beef has been squashed? It's not been squashed yet. We both ain't said, there's still like, there's beef going on. But it's like, we still hate each other, but mate, I don't think he hates me anymore. He said like, he said the other day, I'm like, he likes my content, do you know what I mean? I could tell, I'll probably make him laugh sometimes. Paul Venice is a good sport. He's a good sport. But there's certain people, But I wouldn't want to fight him. Yeah, I wouldn't fight him either.
26:50I think we are going to fight eventually because everyone wants to see it now. But I'm getting training first. And I know, yeah, I'll lose. I don't give a shit. If I'm like, oh, you're a push, you got banned. So what? I got banned by Paul Venice. I mean, he's a serious fighter. And where will you fight, Paul? On Misfits or something? I think Misfits or another channel. But I want to make sure the money's right. I mean, I ain't doing it for fun. Have you been approached by Misfits? Yeah. They're looking for a fighter. For you? Yeah, for me, yeah. Now, you and Paul Venice back and forth. I don't believe there's much genuine animosity there.
27:19is there anybody out there in the social media space that you've got genuine beef with that you'd like to fight on Misfits? I think people's got beef with me. I ain't got beef with them. But there's no one I can actually say because it's all... But a lot of people hate me. Genuinely, I get under their skin. I don't hate anyone. Do you know what I mean? I like to make it... If something happens to me, yeah, if they try to slap me on the slide, yeah, I'm going to hate you. Do you know what I mean? But genuinely, all these words and it just goes on my head. Like, I get all these little prick, you think you're this, you think...
27:44I don't give a fuck. I don't hate anyone, but I know people genuinely hate me so you go around streaming now didn't you yeah and who are some of the other big names that do the streaming that the audience will recognise HHS Ed Matthews Bevo there's fucking Jimskin Bevo's the one with the teeth yeah yeah with the teeth so we're streaming with him now but he's hated as well same as me so it's like a good little link up why is he I don't really know too much about him I don't know he's hated because he's very cocky do you know what I mean he's like he's a little geezer but that's part of the persona isn't it yeah that's it That's it.
28:16If you're going to go around recording live stuff, you've got to be cocky. HS Tiki Tiki is the good-looking mixed-race lad. Yeah, that's it, yeah. And there's a guy that imitates him with a sock on his hand. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, that is funny. Yeah, it's funny. Does HS Tiki Tiki take that well? He does. He's got power. Come on, you're laughing at yourself, aren't you? I think secretly they know of him. Do you know what I mean? They don't actually beef each other. But HS, he's a sound guy. He's high up. he's got the most clout anyone would do anything for him but he's game isn't he as well I've seen him having punched up the board the fight with me and him would be the best fight ever do you know what I'm saying because the way I've run it up the way everyone's asking for that fight but I don't think we'll ever get to that are you friends or are you not friends we're sort of competition yeah kind of but not in the same sense do you know what I mean obviously I'm a new influencer I've just blown up recently so he knows I went to his event the other day he sort of we had a We had a verbal disagreement about, he reckons I won't get paid a certain amount of misfits.
29:19I reckon, I know for a fact I will. Do you know what I mean? He's like, no, Charles, he reckons he knows more than me. I don't believe that because I've already been off, do you know what I mean? Talks off prices, all that shit. Do you get me? So when you and HS were at each other's throats, that - But it weren't that. Everyone was at my throat, and obviously it's HS, you stream. Right. People, every time someone want to fight, these heavyweights, big stacks, I want you. Obviously call it on because they know that anyone that calls up big stacks at the minute is going viral. But was it pantomime or real?
29:44It was real. So I've gone up to this big Irish geezer. We're arguing. He's like, yeah, fight me. I'm saying I'm going on Misfits. I ain't fighting you on it because it was a boxing event. I was saying I'll fight you on Misfits. I ain't fighting you for free. And then all of a sudden there's Eubank. There's some Eubank, Freedom Eubank fella. He's trying to jump on it. Big stacks. Me and him was quite arguing quite bad. But, mate, I wouldn't fight that cunt. He's a serious boxer. Do you know what I mean? And if he had a good following... What, Chris? Eubank Jr.'s stuck on you? It's Freedom Eubank.
30:14He's one of the Eubanks, yeah? I was going to say. He's like a nephew or something like that. But he was saying, look, Stax and Eubank, that's a big fire. But I'm saying you ain't got the followers. Like, I've got the followers. I want to fight influencer. And this guy's a Sierra Boxer. I ain't just going to jump in the ring with someone. I'm giving them exposure. Do you know what I mean? But I'm not getting nothing from them. Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands for the super athletic stuff. Like running gear for cruising up the trail. Woo! And the super athletic-ish stuff. Like fishing gear for chilling by the creek.
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31:23Is it all fair in love and war? If someone hurt me or someone stabbed me or something, do you know what I mean? I mean, in the new, and also another thing as well, when you're going round, because I look at all you live streamers and I think. It's dangerous, yeah. It is dangerous. It's dangerous for me. It's dangerous for me. Because these lot, they're not hated as much. Like me, people want to enjoy, like the amount of threats I get a day but with your travellers like come I'll fight you I'll come to you now we have a fight fair fight come to the travellers I'm like mate I was like I'm gonna do that here like I'm because I've made this so bad that I'll fight anyone obviously now I'm taking a piss but people actually it's an ego thing see most men they've got a big ego so they wanna fight I'm thinking I would never fight anyone even if someone jawed me out in the street on camp I would say get the fuck away from do you know what I mean like I would argue I'm not a dick here like anyone come up to me I'm still fucking and I ain't going to back down.
32:13But I ain't fighting on the street like it's dead. But shut up, man, that's the problem. They will and I won't. Are you worried that you'll ever get stabbed to pieces when you're out and about? No, I don't think it's that deep, man. I ain't offended anyone. But even Darren Till said, like, mate, people are gunning. Like, he can't believe it. I don't know if you've seen mine and Darren's interview. Well, you say it's not that deep. Yeah. But people are getting stabbed up for no reason now. No, no, no. Let alone having a reason. Recently, I've been thinking, fucking hell. Like, I could go to a gym and people can know and they could like come with some serious problems and try and do me over but I'm thinking in my back of my head why are they going to do that for such shit reason I ain't fucked anyone's birds I ain't done I ain't done the most I ain't fucking urked someone but do you know what I mean Well where a lot of women come you know problems also come Yeah that's the problem that's what I'm chilling out You don't struggle with women I've seen that and has that come with it's fair share of problems Not really I remember I've done some birds it was yeah I've done some birds and fucking she was trying to get her fella jealous like oh yeah it's a big stat me and all this bollocks and he's giving it I'm saying shut up mate do you know what I mean I was just sold him but I fucked her up get away from it but I can understand girls will probably try to use me to get them jealous but I'm chilling out with the birds I can't be honest it's a waste of time I want to fuck my business you've not got a fixed one I've got a couple fixed birds that I see I trust do you know what I mean that I have on side but I ain't got a fixed bird I did have a bird I had the most fucking beautiful best woman in the world I was with her for five years and obviously it weren't working so mate I left her but still now she's in my life do you know what I mean but it's tough I couldn't stop cheating on her like non-stop cheating on her and she was like the best person in the world she's not a loyal like honestly even now like she's the best girl ever and my problem is I can't stop cheating I can't be with one woman like she used to let me sleep we used to go swingers and she used to let me fuck out but I still like as soon as I got the opportunity I still fuck another bird behind her back she used to let me fuck out yeah she used to mate yeah She let me get my end away, do you know what I mean?
34:05Because she knew, like, I couldn't be with her. It's unfair, I know, but in the end, I knew for myself, I'm being selfish being with her. So I've sort of let her go. But it's, yeah, it's a tough one. So are you attracted to the OnlyFan type girls? Not really. Yeah, I am, but I wouldn't get with them. Do you know what I mean? I don't look at them as wife, but I like to sleep. Do you know what I mean? I like pretty girls. I like slaggy looking girls. Do you know what I mean? And this is like a wife, naturally beautiful. Do you know what I mean? works every day she's like the best person in the world and obviously I couldn't help myself I just love fucking little slags do you reckon there'll come a time where you'll get bored of maybe yeah because it's coming there now because I'm sick of it recently I'm doing like fucking I'm having mad orgy do you know what I mean it's just it's getting too much you haven't made orgies orgies yeah like threesomes foursomes do you know what I mean I've been enjoying myself I've been single obviously where I've got this name obviously people like it I've been doing my thing but it's just I don't know what are you getting out of that yeah it's good ego but look what I fucked the other day at least not doing nothing for me that's what I'm thinking mentally it's putting me back it's a wild old ride your life isn't it you're fighting beefing the people yeah that's it I enjoy my life but it's like I need to grow up I feel like when I went to jail I was 22 did not live my life I need to grow up no I don't do you know what I mean I'm living like a kid you do this at your teenagers I mean fuck about out all the week but when I went to jail I was 22 I was a kid back then but all my do you know what I mean I spent my childhood basically all in prison so now I'm living my childhood I'm fucking up feel like you're making up for lost time yeah so I'm doing nothing for me what's on your bucket list of things to do that you've not done abroad I can't wait to go abroad I've never been abroad is that because you've been in prison all the time yeah I've always been on license even now I can't go I've got two and a half years left so you've never ever left the UK never left the UK oh man you're going to be a fucking handful when you go so be careful where you go because they won't fuck around yeah they won't have it yeah yeah of course in certain countries Before I used to drunk, I used to be a rat.
36:03Every night I go out, I used to get mad punch-ups. But no, I'm cool, man. I know how to carry myself. Do you know what I mean? I know if someone's fucking giving it, you know, people are drunk, they've got to, I'll just fucking, just leave them to it, man. Let them think they won, innit? Do you know what I mean? What's the top three countries you fancy going? Vegas? I want to go to Thailand. That just looks, yeah. How did I know you were going to say that? It's lady boys. Did I know you were going to say that? No, but Thailand, mate, honestly, I've been seeing people's stories, Thailand looks the bollocks and it's cheap as well Portugal loves to go to Portugal do you know what I mean I just want to go nice hot country and just relax and what about your business mind because you're known for flashing your dough about isn't you which gets which gets on people's nerves I didn't think I was was that Google yourself yeah they say that you flash with the cash oh is it no I wouldn't think that at all no I've got Rolex that's it I wouldn't yeah but you make a few quid yeah I make a few quid and you've got a good business brain yeah where does that come from I've not got a good business.
37:00It's literally, everything just gets handled. I'm so lucky. I don't know how, like everyone just helps me out. Well, I'm loyal, but I'm trustworthy. Do you know what I mean? People know that. So certain things come my way. Do you know what I mean? And at the minute, when I had a girl, I weren't locked in. Now I'm locked in, I'm focused. Laser focus on where you want to be. When I left my girl, I was sleeping so much. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm constantly texting birds all night long, just being a fucking predator, yeah? But now it's just that I'm focused. like I've never been so focused and no girls could get in my head see my pals one of my pals man like girls girls go get on thinking above do you know how like because obviously he's got the opportunities I've got and I'm saying do you know how much money we can make doing what we do because obviously we've just got into streaming this is the live streaming you're live streaming I've just started doing it the amount of money you can make from that we get paid promo so business want us we're promoting staff we're promoting all sorts of shit and you get paid a lot of money for it but the thing with the live streaming is unless you put yourself in compromising situations.
37:58It's not exciting to watch. So have you got a strategy? Yeah. What's the plan? But it just happens. On a day-to-day basis, you walk around and say, it happens in the street. Do you know what I mean? You live stream it, or people say, oh, you're a mug. You get in a little argument. Do you know what I mean? On a normal day, a lot of shit happens. And obviously, we'll be around loads of girls, and then obviously, we'll be around girls that have a higher amount of numbers, then we'll ask them a question. You know what I mean? Shit just comes out. Naturally, naturally. And people are watching it because it's funny, because it's our life.
38:24And obviously we'll go Soho, we'll go certain places, you know what I mean? And obviously it's all erratic, go casino maybe. I don't know, I haven't streamed for that long. I don't know if you guys do that. But just certain situations, you know what I mean? Because obviously we're with other streamers. We've all got good ideas. You'll pick the spots where the action's at. Yeah. And as far as ambition goes, are you like a sky's the limit kind of guy? I've got, obviously Daniel Westbrook, I've got Tenet, like loads of people want me getting acting because I play that part. I love to get acting or whatever.
38:51It's a comedy thing, do you know what I mean? So yeah, because you amplify your personality. Yeah, of course. And I'm going into boxing, so I'm just going to start boxing training from now. So I'm going to get into that avenue. Don't go my way. I've always got other avenues, do you know what I mean? There's other avenues, whatever. But I'm doing what I enjoy. I used to do porn coming out of that. It's not for me. Yeah, why? Because for, I mean, there'll be a lot of young men out there that would be their dream. Why isn't it for you? It don't feel real. It's not the same. It looks all right. I'm getting twisted, but I've slept with so many decent birds like fucking beautiful birds and what am I getting in that?
39:25It's just an ego thing, same thing. And I want to come away like porn stars. I mean, everyone just put, you're a porn star, you're this, you're that. I want to be something else. That ain't my life. Before, when I was young, I want to be a porn star. When you're young, you think, fuck birds, yeah, porn star, that's the best job. But it's not, it's not at all, it's degraded. No one looks at you the same. You're not, like you're blacklisted. A lot, a lot even. So you're going to put that chapter behind you? Yeah, yeah definitely wipe your hands with it yeah see you later yeah you put an end to it made good money from it I was happy I've done what I've done is there an element of it I mean I can imagine I mean I'm not a woman so I don't know before the feminists jump down my throat speaking on behalf of women but I can imagine as a woman as a woman in porn if you're getting rowed by fucking 10 men a day there's going to come a time it takes its toll what about does it fuck with a man's mind after a while it can yeah a lot of my mates they've done do you know it's full on gay shit yeah you go into gay stuff and mentally they're not there.
40:18Mentally they're fucked. Like mentally they're just, but they're so happy with the money, they feel like everything's right when it's not, do you know what I mean? Like you've got to have a good head. You've got to have good people around you because trust me, like I had that bird, I was coming home to that bird every day. Yeah, and I was, do you know what I mean? Certain people are on their own. Mentally, it's fucking them up. And you know the lads that get into gay porn and they say that they're not gay. Why do you think they say that? Because sucking a dick is gay. I don't think, A lot of them don't suck dick.
40:48They get their dick sucked. Do you know what I mean? By another man. This straight man, yeah. That's quite gay. That is gay, of course. But the way it is, yeah, there's an injection. You put the injection in your knob, it stays on for five hours, yeah? I've used it in bars, even when I'm having a good time, yeah? I know about the injection. That's all Paul's, yeah, we take injections, yeah? So you've got a big dick. And is that rife in the industry, jabbing your dick? Sometimes, yeah. When you're not attracted to certain people, yeah, probably. But I can imagine a lot. because even like I've been on porn shoots with fucking 10, 10 birds.
41:18I'm not going to stay half of you. We've got to stop. We've got to go over there now. We've got to fucking, right, stop. Right, what are we going to do? You've got to talk. My dick's going to die even when I'm fucking a bird. If I'm not smashing her, my dick's going to go down. Do you know what I mean? So it depends. Certain people, they don't have to jab but I know a lot of people do. What would you fall back on if the live streaming doesn't work or if you get cancelled or if you get restricted for whatever, you get nicked and you get put on bail and they say, right, you can't live stream for 12 months while we're investigating an incident.
41:48What would be your fallback to keep earning money? God knows, man. I wouldn't know, but I've got a bit of dough to invest in St. Hose. I've got pals that do other stuff. I know people will probably bring me in elsewhere. Do you know what I mean? Have you got an agent that's plugging you? Yeah, kind of, but I do my own. Management? Yeah, management. I've got a management for St. Hose. Whatever deals they get me, they get a certain percentage, but most deals come my way anyway. I'd be surprised if you're not approached for people to star in films, even if you start as an extra. I have been in talks with people, do you know what I mean?
42:17Either like ITV shows, all that shit. So I think soon, obviously, it's just getting noticed more. People are liking you. I'm going to stop all the fucking bullshit I'm doing because all I'm doing now is walking up to someone, taking their phone, walking off. And then it goes wild for some reason. But it's just, what is he doing? Do you know what I mean? I'm not doing nothing. So when you're going and snatching someone's phone, Yeah, it's all planned. Do you tell them first? Yeah, of course, because they get excited. Let me be in one. Everyone loves big stacks because I don't know why because if I watched it it would probably I'd be like why is that so do you know what I mean it pops off but I've done one of those little Asian kids but I threw him at the way like that it got 2 million views and obviously the whole bar because as soon as I got in this bar everyone knew Big Stacks and I was like what are you saying and then everyone wanted to do a video but it's just I think people just want to get seen a video and laugh about it with their friends do you know what I mean and are you enjoying the fame yeah kind of yeah yeah yeah any downsides but yesterday I was with Bevo yesterday yeah who's that Bevo with the teeth.
43:13He's much bigger than us and I know he's got a different audience, he's got a lot of children, school kids, everyone knows Bevo and it was like, we walked through Bazelon yesterday, Bazelon's house at night and it's like, Bevo, Bevo, Bevo and then people are like, Bevo, get out of our time. Like all the kids are, and I think this is too much, mate, do you know what I mean? Because it's like, can I have a picture? Bevo, and grabbing him and you think, fuck it, and obviously, he probably ain't making that much money for that. Do you know what I mean? It's like Tom Cruise walking down, do you know what I mean?
43:42but I think no one would treat me the same as I'm probably unapproachable more do you know what I mean because a lot of people like think fucking hell he probably looks like a dickhead like I probably wouldn't get on an altercation with him do you know what I mean but it is good when I go on nights out it's lovely because people love my shit everyone because it's banter now people understand it at first like I was hated when I was hated the most it weren't nice because I was in every group chat I was in this people were cunting me off when I go no one wanted to say hello to me but now Now I've switched it round.
44:12Everyone wants to know me. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think if people know that it's an act and you're just having a bit of fun, that sort of takes the sting out of it. Out of all the reality shows out there, what one would you ideally like to be on? I'd love to go live by them. I'm too old for that though. But fucking, probably I'm a celebrity or something. I think that would be decent. Yeah, that would be good fun. And bringing it back to your mum, what's your relationship with her now? Yeah, we're tight. We're good, man. Obviously, she went through a bad status. I understand. She lost her husband for however long, yeah, my dad.
44:42She had four kids with her. She had six kids, like, when she got left. Do you know what I mean? She couldn't cope. She turned into alcohol. It's hard for anyone. Do you know what I mean? Her coping mechanism was alcohol. But now, like, yeah, she's fixed up. I know, like, there's... I don't hate her. Because I can't... I love the way I've been brought up. Like, I've... I'm streetwise. Now I speak to people. They're so fucking naive in life. And I think you're going to get whooped all over. Do you know what I mean? I've learned a lot of life skills. What does your mum think about your behaviour?
45:08Yeah, she loves it. she's proud obviously because I'm a big looking man. Like she goes in the cat. Everyone's like, oh this month she's so proud of my son. And then when she's seeing me everywhere and even my nephews, like everyone's seeing, oh big stacks was like this. Like everyone realised I'm getting quite big. They're proud, do you know what I mean? Because not many, none of my family have done anything. I've actually like done something in my life, do you know what I mean? And obviously she's probably, I've been in and out, in and out, and she's probably happy I'm fucking out now just doing my thing.
45:33Yeah. And what do you think the future is going to hold for you? I'm going to move abroad. Obviously, I want a family, of course. I want to finally love a girl that I can settle down with and just not cheat on her, maybe. But I don't know if I've got it in me. But yeah, let's give it a go. But fucking, yeah, man, just obviously making a lot of money and just going to a beautiful country, beautiful villa. You know, living my life in the sun, that's it. I don't want to be in the UK. I feel like the UK holds you back a lot. And I ain't really got, at the moment, I ain't got nothing in the UK to stay for.
46:03That's interesting. What is it? There we go. Final question. What is it about the UK that you don't like at the moment? The government, the tax, the people, the hate you get. So when you go to, like, some foreign people are lovely, do you know what I mean? They're friendly. They want to help you. Oh, I'll take this, take that. Here, everyone just pushes past you, do you know what I mean? Everyone's in a rush. Like, mentally, everyone's fucked. Do you know, it's a shame that you're going to really struggle to get into America because I think you do the best over there. They're all, they build each other up.
46:32Yeah, all day long, mate. They pump each other up. No one does it. No one wants to help each other. Everyone hates anything. Once you start blowing, all the other streamers are like, oh, fucking idiot. See me, I love everyone. Do you know what I mean? If someone's blowing, even if I can help them, like any sort of thing, I'll put them on. But I don't get the same shit. Do you know what I mean? But I've never given a fuck about that. I'll still help people if I can. If not, fuck you. Sierra has all the best active and outdoor brands for the super athletic stuff, like running gear for cruising up the trail.
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47:37That's why I wanted to get you on because when I looked at it I mean you're blowing up every time I look at my phone Big Stacks, Big Stacks You're there, Big Stacks, Big Stacks and you're getting a load of hate in the comments and I'm thinking I can see this is an act Yeah, of course So it's like bring you one and let's be the real you Yeah, that's it And we didn't do no prep for this So what made you come on today as Charlie rather than Big Stacks? Just showing the story, man Do you know what I mean? People understand it a little bit but it's nice to talk to someone Do you know what I mean? Drop the act it must be exhausting as well it's not it's a laugh like for me it's a laugh I'll put the camera up for a lot of shit it's funny and a lot of it if you know it because bad people know it's better but a lot of people do not understand why people are taking it so seriously because I'm quite I think I'm quite funny I'll say the maddest shit I'll be sitting with a bird I've done one the other day and I'm like shut up you do as you're told I'll sit here if I want fuck off do you know what I mean and people are and she's like screaming in the back obviously people want to see because it's normal I'm putting it on with fucking See how I'm getting around people And people are like See if you're talking to a bird like that Well that one Mate can you not see I'm going to put the camera And do that You know what I mean That's stupid Like it's crazy man So the future is Family Continue with the fighting Definitely going to I'm going to keep fighting I'm going to try I'll be as good as I can Get on misfit So how And you're training regular Yeah training now yeah And how does a man your size Keep his tank fit That's a lot of lung work Isn't it Oh mate I used to be fit But I'm going to lose a lot of weight I'm going to have to lose weight Do you know what I mean To get in it But it is going to be not fit at all.
49:04I'll never last a round at the minute. Oh really? Yeah. But I'm going to get there. And when I focus on set, I focus. This week here, I'm packing all drinking, money, no girls, just training. That's it. What about gear? Will you drop that? I think I have to, yeah. I'll take a bit of test, that's it. I don't take a lot, do you know what I mean? But I meal prep my stuff, I always got my meals with me, do you know what I mean? Is that how you keep the wastes trim? Yeah. It's a waste trim, yeah waist is tight I don't think it is yeah well you don't how much do you weigh I weigh 120 cent key yeah you don't see many geysers your size with like washboard stomachs so you do it you must be doing something right in the kitchen yeah yeah of course yeah it's meal prepping the right food isn't it I know what to eat I've done my course in a jar like nutrition and done my gym course everything do you know ah so that's what you was learning in there yeah yeah yeah of course I know all the right foods and I know everything so you weren't just fucking screws in there yeah yeah nah nah they're fucking me no I'm joking folks this conversation and this is the real big stack so I'm going to put all his social media links in the description go and follow his journey who knows what the future may bring I hope you stay safe don't get stabbed don't get shot fucking don't pick beef with the wrong people and as soon as people stick it on you just say look I'm having a joke like and subscribe to the channel also please and I'll keep finding these interesting guests that I can present to you all perfect mate thanks for coming on mate much appreciate Stay safe, man.
50:33Cheers, geezer.
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