In short
Tim Davies discusses self-defense, perceived UK violence, and his claims that mass immigration and DEI-driven military recruitment have lowered standards and increased security risks, including a feared “Hamas-style” orchestrated attack. He also comments on the St Pancras incident involving Tommy Robinson, the Manchester/other leaked video cases, and the migrant hotel protests (Epping Hotel optics, police response).
Guest background
Tim Davies is a former RAF pilot. He joined the Navy at 24, transferred to the Air Force, flew Tornado aircraft, and later trained pilots for about a decade on the Hawk T1/T2 (Red Arrows training aircraft). He left around 2018, then did defense ministry contracting. He later ran an online flight school and a YouTube channel. He says he lost/paused a security clearance after speaking publicly about DEI/multicultural recruitment.
Key claims
Violence is misunderstood by the public; self-defense should be judged with context. He argues imported “military-aged” men and insular communities create terrorism risk and anxiety. He claims the military prioritized diversity targets over merit, leading to lower standards and “imposter syndrome.” He criticizes government handling of immigration and online speech enforcement.
Notable examples
St Pancras train station CCTV allegedly showing Tommy Robinson defending himself; Manchester leaked police video; Epping migrant hotel protests where women and children in pink sang “Sweet Caroline”; references to London Bridge and Lee Rigby; comparisons to IRA attacks and “October 7th” Hamas-style planning.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMilitary Diversity and Security Concerns
0:55 to 2:12
Discussion on military diversity policies and concerns about national security.
“And what the military was doing was allowing all the minorities and the women to enter, and then holding back with the white guys that were trying to push diversity.”
Tommy Robinson Incident Analysis
2:32 to 3:34
Analyzing the incident involving Tommy Robinson and public reactions.
“Go and have a look at their website, see if there's anything in there for you.”
Understanding Violence in Society
3:34 to 6:52
Exploring the complexities of violence and self-defense in contemporary Britain.
“At what point do we start to actually fear for what somebody else can do to us if they're continuously following us and making threats and raising their voice?”
Terrorism and Preparedness in the UK
6:52 to 11:24
Discussion about the potential for terrorism and the need for vigilance.
“I expect you're the same because that's the better defence.”
Current Threat Landscape
11:24 to 14:01
Analyzing threats posed by unvetted immigration and domestic safety.
“With the invasion, the mass importation of unvetted, fighting fit men.”
Expectations of Future Attacks
14:01 to 16:15
Discusses potential terrorist tactics and the nature of threats facing society.
“than we think they are because my sister is in the police force and I know that there's a lot of information that's low level, that they grow and they could go and they could pick people up.”
Police and Community Dynamics
16:16 to 18:11
Explores the relationship between police forces and community protests regarding housing migrants.
“What do you think of the migrant hotel crisis?”
The Role of Parents in Community Issues
18:12 to 21:41
Highlights the importance of parental involvement in community safety and protests.
“The police can't identify with that, can they?”
Military Background and Diversity Issues
21:42 to 24:06
Shares the speaker's military experience and insights on diversity policies in the military.
“And what I was helping was young minorities and white, and everyone doesn't matter, get into the military to fly airplanes.”
Societal Trust and Community Responsibility
26:39 to 28:00
Discusses the low-trust society and the role of men in fostering community standards.
“And we wonder why we're living in such a low-trust society at the moment.”
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Rethinking Diversity in the Military
28:00 to 29:23
Discussing the military's approach to diversity and its implications for effectiveness.
“And I say it wasn't a thing because I grew up like David Thompson, Linford Christie, you know what I mean?”
The Dangers of Forced Inclusion
29:23 to 32:00
Exploring how forced diversity affects self-belief and performance in the military.
“And 20%, sorry, 40 % women, 20 % minorities by 2030.”
Micro Traumas of Military Experience
32:00 to 36:26
Examining the psychological impact of micro traumas on soldiers rather than just combat experiences.
“But it's literally driven externally by people that have decided to force these people into these roles.”
Coping with Transition from Military to Civilian Life
36:26 to 42:01
Discussing the challenges of transitioning back to civilian life and dealing with addiction.
“So a lot of people, and when you speak to people that have been in firefights and stuff like that, that's not necessarily that traumatic because they're designed for that.”
Visiting the Psychiatrist
42:01 to 43:11
The speaker recounts an experience with a psychiatrist during his Air Force career, discussing stress management and drinking habits.
“You can go and see him and you can get a day off work.”
Drinking Culture in the Military
43:12 to 44:35
Discussion about the drinking culture within the military and how it affected performance and social habits.
“Do you want to come down and see me again?”
Coping Mechanisms Post-Military
44:36 to 45:57
Exploration of how veterans struggle with coping after leaving the military and the societal expectations surrounding it.
“And then if I was flying first thing, the worst things that can happen sometimes is you're down to fly maybe mid-morning or late in the day.”
Accountability and Self-Improvement
45:58 to 47:18
The importance of accountability in personal growth and overcoming struggles, especially in the context of military life.
“they played hard, they worked hard, and they come out and they used alcohol to self-soothe and cope, you know, to sort of segue into civistry, because that's a hell of a change, isn't it?”
Seeking Help and Community Support
47:19 to 48:26
Discussing the value of seeking help within a community and how men often struggle with vulnerability and reaching out.
“So I'm not going to go walking on heels with you.”
Faith in Personal Potential
48:27 to 51:17
A deep dive into the concept of faith in oneself and what individuals can achieve when they recognize their potential.
“And this is why sitting down and talking sometimes to another person is, and I think, I'll caveat that, if you've had sexual abuse trauma as a youngster, I think it works.”
A Critical Investigation in the RAF
51:18 to 56:00
Recounting a specific incident in the Royal Air Force that led to a significant investigation and subsequent changes for safety.
“I've got to do that rowing because I know that I respect myself more.”
The Impact of a Damning Report
56:00 to 57:06
Learn how a leaked report led to significant changes in military operations.
“And the boss stood on this report once it was done, really damning report.”
Favorite Military Films
57:06 to 58:42
Explore the hosts' opinions on classic military films and their impact.
“And I understand that's one of another four years after that, getting kicked around by some senior people.”
Service and Loyalty in the Military
58:42 to 1:00:06
Understand the concepts of service and loyalty among military personnel.
“So today, as we live and breathe, would you want to fight for Keir Starmer?”
Shifts in Political Ideology
1:00:06 to 1:01:53
Discover the personal journey of shifting political beliefs from left to right.
“The guy I am is trying to do something for other people to lift everyone.”
Healthcare and Personal Responsibility
1:01:53 to 1:04:14
Discuss the relationship between healthcare systems and personal accountability.
“People didn't abuse the structure of the NHS.”
Islam and Western Values
1:04:14 to 1:10:02
Examine the controversial views on Islam's place in Western society.
“Like you say, say that the young lady's outside the hotel in, say, London, full of immigrants.”
Discussion on Islam and Western Values
1:10:02 to 1:14:15
Explore the speaker's views on the compatibility of Islam with Western values and criticisms of Muslim communities in Britain.
“I don't think it's compatible with what we would see as Western values at the moment.”
The Role of Personal Responsibility in Society
1:14:16 to 1:16:43
The speaker discusses the importance of individual actions in restoring trust and addressing societal issues.
“And when you come out, you're going to suffer for the rest of your life with many different things.”
The Importance of Supportive Relationships
1:16:44 to 1:20:07
A conversation on the role of supportive partners in the lives of men, especially those in high-stress professions.
“with the Muslim rape gangs, they weren't called out.”
Challenges Facing Men Today
1:20:46 to 1:24:00
A discussion on the struggles men face in modern society and the impact of feminism.
“Okay, all I say is sometimes people come up to me and they tap me on the shoulder in the street.”
Challenging Conversations in Relationships
1:24:00 to 1:24:58
Explore the dynamics of challenging conversations within relationships, particularly around feminism and personal beliefs.
“We'll get them investing in the country if we can get them into relationships and housing especially, which is so hard to get, and get them into jobs.”
Reflections on the Conversation
1:24:58 to 1:25:27
Liam expresses gratitude for the conversation and encourages audience engagement.
“enjoyed listening to Tim and you've enjoyed this entire conversation like I have, please do like and subscribe to the channel.”
Transcript
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1:10Is this guy a threat? Hopefully I was to what they were doing. Got a call, get out of the building, security coming to get you. And yeah, I lost my security clearance. Does Islam have a place in British politics? I say Islam doesn't have a place in the West. So someone stepped at Tommy Robinson, he's having a go at him. It comes with consequence. Yeah, I don't think people understand violence. We are importing people into the country that use and understand violence very well. Bring all the refugees in, no borders. Do you lock your house at night? Yeah. Why do you do that? Well, I want to protect my stuff.
1:36That's what borders do. Something weird is going on where we're ferrying migrants around different hotels. Why are they young women standing outside a hotel campaigning for the people behind them who we know are responsible for the abuses of their kind? People that are surrounding you, outnumbering you 10 to 1. It's pissing a lot of people off. That's not something I'm willing to tolerate as an Englishman. These lands are my lands and not their lands. Even if you're born here, your heritage is Pakistani. It's not an English heritage. I think that one day, and it could be soon, that there'll be an orchestrated attack.
2:12I want to say a quick thank you to our sponsors, Gold Seal. I use their products every single day and now I finally get to work with them. I use their products for anti-inflammatory, reduced anxiety, better sleep and mental clarity. I'm going to put a link to their website in the description, along with the 10 % discount code for you to take advantage of. Go and have a look at their website, see if there's anything in there for you. I hope you enjoy this week's episode and good health. Tim. Yeah, thanks for coming on, mate. I've watched your work from, I was going to say afar, but I've actually, the more I watch your work, the more I'm hooked on going back and listening to your take, particularly on masculinity and the way the country's going.
2:54And I think you've got some very valid points. But let's just start this interview off with what happened recently at St Pancras train station where Tommy Robinson allegedly struck somebody that was accosting him. Now, we saw the little snippet go out of the guy on the floor. And then obviously everybody jumps in with their opinion, you know, making up their own conclusion. I think we now know, I have to be careful because it's an ongoing investigation, but I think we now know that the CCTV proved that Tommy was defending himself. And I know that you, you know, you follow things that are going on.
3:31What's your take on that whole incident? At what point do we defend ourselves? At what point do we start to actually fear for what somebody else can do to us if they're continuously following us and making threats and raising their voice? This is a long question, but it made me think about, wow, everyone's on a witch hunt now. They want him arrested. They want him held to account. They don't really know what happened. It made me think, imagine if somebody burgled my house and I come downstairs and there's a burglar and I deal with him and he ends up falling asleep. Because when men hit other men, the chances are they're going to fall unconscious.
4:12You know, we're sort of 15, 15, 16 stone men. When punches are thrown, we don't want to really hurt someone, but it does happen. And I think, are we now living in a country where you're going to get burgled one day, you catch the burglar, you put him on his arse, you put him to sleep and you end up going to jail. And the rest of civilization champions that. Like, where are we heading and what are your thoughts on that whole scenario? Yeah, I don't think people understand violence. I don't think people have experienced violence. I think if you experience violence, even in school, let's say you've been in school fights, whatever, you understand how it can escalate and how people can pile in and how you can all of a sudden be in a really bad place that you didn't intend to be in.
4:48And I think Tommy Robinson understands violence. And so even one bloke coming up to him is enough that could do him significant damage and all of a sudden he can't pay for his family and his kids can't grow up and that kind of stuff. So, you know, I've always said if there's no doubt, if there's any doubt there is no doubt and in there there's doubt I mean the guy could do him some severe damage so yeah if you step I don't understand if you step to someone it comes with consequence so someone's stepped at Tommy Robinson he's having a go at him and eventually Tommy's obviously I assume Tommy's hit him and the guy's falling down the guy's probably rolling around on the floor trying to get some compensation but why would you challenge Tommy Robinson you know what's going to probably happen so we don't you know the other thing is like the Manchester instance with the two Muslim ads that are in going through the court now looking to be sentenced, isn't it?
5:31We never saw the whole tape until it was leaked. I think I did three films on that, didn't I? And saying, look, I think the first thing I did when the police officer was kicking the guy in the head was like, he's doing that for a reason. Police officers just don't jump on people's heads. You know what I mean? He's doing it for a reason. What is that? And then eventually when the tapes came out, you could see exactly why because the police officer thought the guy got his gun off him as they both fell back together. So there's a lot more to come out about it. I fully understand it. Every man should be able to protect themselves.
5:54Why would that be such a bad thing? It's a very neutered, Was it like a neutered country that we are so detached from violence? We don't understand it when it happens. And the thing is, and you're quite right, people don't understand violence, whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. If you do understand violence, like I think you and I do, we are importing people into the country that use and understand violence very well, which puts me on edge and it makes me think people need to start understanding violence. I'm not encouraging me to go out and use it, but we need to start kind of becoming very familiar and have a good understanding of violence.
6:28Yeah, you said that really well. Like whether people go training, I mean, I don't train in like boxing or jujitsu, but I know people can do those kinds of sports and everything, you know what I mean? But I'm a big rower and I'm a big guy, you know, guy when I'm lifting things, that kind of stuff, trying to do stuff whenever I can. But when you don't have that physical connection with something that's causing you some aspect of suffering, you can be overwhelmed very quickly with violence. You can be overwhelmed, even confrontational things, you know what I mean, on the street. I'm a very much go towards that threat kind of guy.
6:52I always have been. I expect you're the same because that's the better defence. Very often, a good offence is a better defence. It can escalate, of course. You've got to be very careful. But the other thing is you don't put yourself in situations where these things can arise, especially if you're with your partners, which all men know because the partner can get in the way. You know what I mean? So, and I don't know what happened with Tommy there, but the fact the man can't walk around without being accosted in the UK, that in itself is criminal because we've all should have that ability to be able to walk around without being accosted by someone.
7:18Yeah, and at a train station where, you know, You're supposed to be able to go to these places freely on a day-to-day basis to get to work, to get home. And what you said there is bang on the money. So if you can avoid putting yourself in places where things could happen. So, for example, I've been stabbed multiple times at the same time. I wasn't that unlucky. And, yeah, I've had 101 fights. I've been punched, bottled, hit with lumps of wood. You name it, it's happened. No problem, no drama. It's live by the sword, die by the sword. But I learned very quickly that I don't want to be the one bleeding out.
7:47I don't want to be the one hit first. So if I fear danger, I'm going to do exactly that. I'm never going to be the one that instigates it. I'm never going to pick on someone or bully somebody. But you have to, we have to, this is probably what I'm trying to say, the long and short is I think people now in the UK, we're living in such a volatile time that people really need to start not just learning how to defend yourself. If you can lock somebody up or you can throw a decent shot, it is going to help. But also the vigilance, the peripheral, the understanding of where the threat could be coming from.
8:17We need to all be on high alert, really, because the country's not what it was 20 years ago when you could walk around with your earphones in. You've got to pay attention. Yeah, but the high alert thing will bring a level of anxiety that will manifest itself throughout the population and cause us massive disharmony and disunity itself. So we've got to be very careful of that. We can all walk around doing this the whole time. But what's that send a signal to you? When you're a man and you see me doing a bit of this, you start doing a bit of this. It's because it's a natural thing and then the other guys do this.
8:42And all of a sudden, we're all on edge. Great point. Yeah, we don't want to live like that. Great point. We never lived like that before, did we? We can go back into the 70s and 80s when we were all growing up, and that's never how we were. But now we are. So what happens to the country is we fragment naturally just by the introduction of a high level of anxiety caused by the importation, whoever it might be, of different ethnic groups that may well cause us problems. And I think when we see things like what's happened to Tommy consistently happens to Tom Robinson and other people, you'll get people, let's say, on the left.
9:09It's easy to just say they're on the left. I don't mean that necessarily. But you'll get a section of people that will justify what happened to him. and say, well, if he just shut up talking about this, then that wouldn't have happened. And then that becomes normality. And then people justify these kind of acts. And before you know it, well, if that's justifiable, then something else is justifiable. And then we fragment into two different separate units. And before you know it, we've got some kind of low-level insurrection, civil war, and then it manifests itself into something more serious at the top level.
9:34So we have to, as men, I feel, we have to be able to take responsibility and go, right, are we being dicks about this? Can we just lower this level a little bit? And what does that mean? It doesn't mean being confrontational with each other. It doesn't mean going in and getting people in locks. It means not being there in the first place. It means not going into these places where we're going to be the person that has to then do something. Because we can all look for fights. I'm a big fan of looking for fights. Not anymore. I've got 50, you know what I mean? But, you know what I mean? You look for kind of different fights when you're 50, mate.
9:59You know what I mean? Because, you know, I rode with young men and they're superbly strong. Yeah. And as we all were when we were young, but like 25-year-old, the guys I rode with are strong and I'm not as strong as they are. So I'm not looking for those kind of things. But what we are looking, of course, for is a better community to bring up our children and our families. And I think we also need to, I mean, if the left and right disagree on everything, I think one thing that needs to be agreed on is that if you don't agree with someone's political opinion, you shouldn't think it's fair game for them to become a punch bag either.
10:29We need to sort of unify on that at least, you know, opinions are opinions, but it's not OK to beat people up that you don't agree with. I mean, that's pretty fucking ridiculous. But we're learning as well, right? So it's very easy for us to talk about factors within our society and we can take some classes, can't we? Like the amount of, say, the immigration levels that are coming in. We can say this is all bad. But these are still people that are bringing in families to grow them up in the UK to contribute as best they can. Some are, some aren't. So we're all learning, aren't we? And it's not good enough to just bracket people or put them into one big pool and say, I hate these people or I hate these people.
11:04So, yeah, but as men, we've got to be responsible and we've got to be careful about it. And it's interesting because I know that you went from the left to the right at one stage, but I don't want to cover that now because I still want to talk about, I suppose, violence. Because when I said earlier, you know, if a burglar enters your house and you knock him unconscious and you're the one, you know, fucking ended up in court getting a prison sentence. With the invasion, the mass importation of unvetted, fighting fit men. It's not even the elephant in the room anymore. It's clear as the nose on Barry Manilow's face.
11:37These are one of my fears and concerns. And this isn't to scare monger people. This is hopefully that it just gets people out of their bubble. They're in thinking that everything's OK because it really isn't. I think that one day and it could be soon that there'll be an orchestrated attack. I think we've imported all these foreign bodies with an ideology that's not compatible with ours. They're plotted about the UK. They're probably in secret group chats. And when the time's right for them, they'll hit the button and it'll either be churches attacked or our own homes to put the fear of God into the country.
12:10Like an October the 7th Hamas-style attack. Now, A, can you see that coming? And B, are you prepared? And C, what are you willing to do? Yeah, it's quite a multi-layered thing, isn't it? But the whole focus of terrorism is to terrorise. So in effect, they don't need to do anything in order for us to be terrorised. that just need to place things into our brains, that things might happen. And then the whole country, as I said, is on edge with anxiety and everything else. We're terrorised without them doing anything. So just the influx of these young, we call them military-aged males, 16 to 45, which I'm not anymore, but still think I've got a bit of fighting spirit in me.
12:46But these men that are coming in are 16 to 45, a lot of them without families. And if you are fleeing conflicts and stuff, I wouldn't leave my family there personally. I'd be bringing them with me. And you don't see that, of course. So we are thinking we're seeing economic migrants and we are seeing people that are coming over here with a potential nefarious intent. The continuation of ISIS. In a video I put in recently, I said the most purest form of Islam is what ISIS was doing. If you go through the Quran, the Hadiths and everything else, that's, and I'll get challenged by that. And I'm like, well, go and speak to some of those people that were fighting in those conflicts and you'll know what I'm saying.
13:16So what I think is going to happen, I think there's a possibility of that, but I think the security services are pretty switched on to it. They have done raids recently, haven't they, where they've picked up people that they knew were building cells. in a way the security services sort of rely on on it not being a mainstream thing so they get the intel so that they can go and do things about it and the reason that you don't see them picking up people every day because they need to start building these things and sometimes when there's an attack that happens the security services are aware of the fact there was an attack brewing they wanted to give a bit more time so they could get more people and they could take them all off the streets at the same time uh and they got it wrong and the attack happened earlier and then we see things like london bridge and everything else where they just missed it you know what i mean the Lee Rigby things where they were aware of it but they missed it.
13:57So I think those things are here and I think the intelligence services are probably a lot better than we think they are because my sister is in the police force and I know that there's a lot of information that's low level, that they grow and they could go and they could pick people up. So what do I expect? Like the IRA with the Warrington bombings, the shopping centre things, maybe mass stabbing events, that seems to be what's popular around Europe at the moment, isn't it? in Germany, attacks on police, uniformed police, like in Ireland. We had recently in Dublin, didn't we? So those, maybe lone wolf attacks, maybe there is a single activation where a lot of people do it on one time.
14:34I don't think that's the case, though, because I think, as I said, the objective of terrorism is to terrorise. And if you do it on one time, they'll be clamped down on, everyone gets turfed out, the public won't accept anything else, will they? They'll be like, right, if you don't do this, we're going to do it. And then you get vigilante groups. So I think it might be the sporadic on-off attacks. and what do I do about it? As I said, I think vigilance is the key, really. Wherever you're out, you know how it is. We're men, right? We sit in the corner of a restaurant, don't we? We've got the whole scope.
15:00We know where the kitchen is. We know where the fire escape is. We know what's on the table in front of us that we can use as weapons. And it's not necessarily the sharp and pointy ones that are the best ones, are we? We know that, you know? So it's the ones that keep distance. This is why people used to walk around in London with canes because canes kept distance from muggers. And in canes, you can have sword canes where you can open. It's a little sword inside the canes. You know, they're illegal, by the way, unless they're over 100 years old, and apparently not illegal then. But canes were to keep distance.
15:23So what have you got around you is going to keep distance? Because that's what you want. Where are your exits? That's what people can do. I think the wrong thing to do is to start painting a massive brush and saying, all these people who are different colour to me are Badans. And therefore, you know, I don't think that's right. But I do think we need to be concerned with communities that are completely insular, that aren't adhering to British values or cultures. and you have to ask yourself, if Islam is so important to these people, and normally Islam I'm talking about, then why have they come here?
15:50Why are they not living in an Islamic country? And that's a very hard question for them to answer and they can't really answer it. And so what I say about these people is it's not that these people are necessarily bad. It's just we've imported so many people so quickly. It's absolutely impossible for them to become assimilated or acclimatised to the British culture because they're not in it. They can't speak English. And it's unmanageable from our side. Of course. Completely unmanaged. We've lost complete control. What do you think of the migrant hotel crisis? Is it too little too late? Is it just the right time?
16:20Are the police dealing with it correctly? Because I know of protesters that have been arrested covertly the next morning and had all their comms taken off them, and they're protesting peacefully. It's like surely parents have got a right to protest against hotels that are housing migrant men that are causing serious mischief in the community. It is right. And that's me putting it lightly. No, it is right. The best thing that ever happened at the Epping Hotel was the women and the children went and dressed in pink and they sung Sweet Caroline. And basically it's like the optics of police then standing in front of them was very, it went around the world, didn't it?
16:53And this is what I mean. You're up against British parents. What are you talking about? I mean, I'm a fan of police. I'm not a fan of British policing. And this is because I come from a police family and this is where your audience switch off. But stay with me two seconds, you know what I mean? Because I come from a British police family and it's a very old school British policing family. My father's in for 37 years. So when I see the police officers, a line next to those parents, I can tell who the young police officers are and who the police officers are there for 20 years. You know what I mean?
17:19And I know how they're going to react. I know how the older police officers are going to react and how the younger police officers are going to react. And it's standard stuff, isn't it? The younger police officers are going to react as per the training from the College of Policing, which we know has been discredited heavily anyway. And they're going to be very, very actionary, whereas the older police officers are going to respond. They're going to respond to what the parents are saying. They're going to respond to what – and also, don't get me wrong, on the side of us men in that crowd, we can be dicks too.
17:43We can misbehave ourselves. I mean, it's not right to try and beat up policemen or swear at policemen. What are we doing? We're men, right? You can have a conversation with the police. The police officers don't want to be there either. But they're there because of the behaviour a lot of the time of the people inside the hotel and then the crowd that have come to put themselves against them. So the best thing that happened at Epping was people like us didn't turn up there. The parents did. Because the parents are the ones that are massively involved, they're massively concerned, and you can't argue against that.
18:12you've got to support the parents because i'd if it was a school near me i'm not a parent but i've got a wife i've got nieces nephews i'd be there as well but i'd be there not as someone that's combating the militant invasion of whatever it might be i'll be there as a parent saying i'm worried about the protection of my child and that's where the power comes when we deal with this now and the police will say the same thing they're like well i'm a parent so i can identify with those people if we're a bunch of mad lads with lagers smashing up the place whatever trying to get in. The police can't identify with that, can they?
18:41So they're going to be combated. They're going to go, no, our job is to protect and serve, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But with parents, the police are exactly the same. They're like, well, I understand that. And that was the best thing with the Epping Hotel and the best thing with the one in London as well, which is ridiculous. You see those boys being shipped in, they're wearing the same tracksuit. You know what I mean? What's that about? Coming up in a, I don't understand it personally. And I'm sure your audience will hit the comments and tell me exactly what's going on. But something weird
19:10I'm seeing the police chauffeuring Antifa. People protesting. That happened. That happened, yeah. I see it with my own eyes. It's stopped a racism placard. With the balaclavas on, with the face coverings, which I thought was supposed to be illegal now. I thought that's the whole point. It certainly should be. And the thing is, get rid of your stop, say no to racism placards, because there is no racism. Yeah, but it makes them look stupid. Let them do it. It's like, where are the racists? Where? But people will believe it, because there's a lot of silly people, unfortunately. You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
19:38And what do we do about those people? so education is important that's what you're doing on your channel you're educating people that's what's important and myself listening to Great Minds I learned something every single interview I learned something new and I feel very blessed that I've had the privilege of someone's mind feeding me and I know you're not talking about me when you say that but thank you all the same thank you all the same you're in that bracket yeah you're in that bracket yeah yeah yeah it's just small Great Minds no but you're right it's difficult no one's got the answers but I think the longer we leave it I'm a big fan of manifestation like the longer we leave it the more it's going to manifest itself the bigger the problem is going to come to the British government because we realise they're more interested in defending their policies than they are actually putting them out there and going, can we just have a chat about this online safety?
20:16But whatever it might be, like why are people so against it? We don't understand. What the government are doing is they realise that they haven't been unified, they haven't red-teamed anything, they haven't forecast the problems with immigration long-term. They just thought it was going to be this multicultural, amazing country. And they realise they're walking into problems. And what a sensible government would do is talk it through with the population, but they're not. They're just very worried about their jobs and not getting voted in again. So they clamped down on it with repressive things that are more oppressive than what's happening in Russia right now.
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20:44But it's like 30 people a day being locked up for what they write on the internet or something in the UK. I think in Russia, they were 400 a year. So this country has gone a bit strange. Even people, it's quite funny, even my brother lives in an Islamic country. He's like, what's going on in the UK, mate? I'm like, it used to be the other way around. I used to be saying it to you. You know what I mean? And now, yeah. But this is where men need to step up and just say, no, there are standards, there are boundaries. There's discipline, which we're all slacking at. We're all slacking at it. but we can look into ourselves and do better.
21:11How are we going to bring this country together? And this is why I talk about communities as opposed to politics. Give us a brief back, because you're 20 years in the military. So give us your backstory so we can get people up to speed that they'll probably go on and follow you from this. Yeah, I'm not after that, followers. Don't get me wrong. And I'm not for everyone at all. But people will find strength in you. Well, I think we find strength in each other without being weird about it. so a lot of the followers who people are in the comments i recognize because they write me emails right or or they join my school i run a online online flight so and i don't want to be that guy that goes this is my life because i'm not interested in that what what i joined the military when i was 24 joined the navy spent five years in the navy in flying training transferred to the air force from the sea harris decommission supposed to go on the sea area and i flew tornado geofors for the air force which is a bomber platform uh went to iraq twice for that and then i went into flying training i was in flying training for a decade after that on the hawk t1 which the red arrows fly teaching people fly it out and then the hawk t2 which is an updated variant with updated avionics and i left um about six years ago and then i went into contracting work for the defense ministry of defense work which lasted a few six eight months then i went in eventually um the marriage was falling apart obviously which is pretty standard when you come out of the military alcoholism all that kind of stuff you throw it all in may as well do it at the same time right you know get it all done together and then i went to work for a company which when I was working for them, the military started investing heavily in diversity, equity and inclusion.
22:38And what I was helping was young minorities and white, and everyone doesn't matter, get into the military to fly airplanes. They're writing to me, helping them out interview techniques. And all the minorities started writing to me saying, I've got me interview date, I've got me interview date. And all the white guys, white guys, not girls were saying, I haven't got anything back from the air force in three or four years or something. And then the minorities started saying, hang on, all the guys in my class or all the guys in my, university, all the white guys, I'm leaping ahead of them. And we realised there was a problem.
23:07And what the military was doing was allowing all the minorities and the women to enter and then holding back with the white guys. They're trying to push diversity. And at the time, I didn't realise why. But now I realise that the plan at the time was to basically invest in multiculturalism in the UK, mass immigration, which was happening back in the 20s and 21. And in order to do that, of course, it had to, in order to get people into the military, military recruitment problem, it had to show that in the military there were a lot of diverse sort of characteristics, as it were, diverse ethnicities.
23:39And that's why I heavily tried to put all those in. And in doing so, I spoke about it on Sky News and all sorts of platforms, newspapers and everything. And then the Air Force apologised eventually. Not to me. But I lost a job. So I was working for this engineering company. And one day, got a call and it said, get out of the building. Security coming to get you. so either get out or security will get here. I was like, I'll fucking take my chances, mate. You know what I mean? But I did leave because no one wants a ruck, do they? Not in public place. And yeah, I lost my security clearance for what I did on my YouTube channel, which was...
24:13I didn't lose it. It was pause. The Air Force is on, wrong Air Force. The Ministry of Defence, very clever. Faceless, bureaucratic, no names in all the government agencies because you have the politicians which we can identify, the ministers. But you don't know who's head of... Well, you might know who's head of the civil service departments, but you don't know who's underneath them. so underneath them are people that you they don't want their names known as soon as you know their names they can't progress up you know they become quite public and it ruins their careers so i'm a big fan of finding out who those people are uh so one of my security clearance was paused i couldn't work and i couldn't just work because i couldn't work anywhere because i had a poor security clearance i couldn't just go and work anywhere at all because the government was looking at me is this guy a threat hopefully i was to what they were doing i was a threat intentionally say and eventually after three months the wife's giving me a bit of beak like what's going on uh fair play to her because i'm sitting around you know i mean getting myself drunk to oblivion wondering whether i'm going to work again and eventually i phoned i realized what the ministry was doing with multiculturalism and i had some other stuff as well going on i phoned them up and said i didn't phone i wrote my letter and said look i need this back to work if you don't give it back i'm going to start putting youtube videos out more aggressively over what you're doing on these particular areas i've got it back within three hours funny that yeah straight away No names, no names again.
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26:37Only at Taco Bell. And we wonder why we're living in such a low-trust society at the moment. Yeah, and you're absolutely right there. And we can hate on it as much as we want. But I think one thing we do as men is we recognize the reality that we're living in at the moment. It is a low trust society. Anxiety is building up. It's volatile, right? There's tinderboxes everywhere. Who's going to cure that? All right? The government's not going to cure it. We don't understand the government. This is why politics isn't working. So who's going to cure it? It's going to be the men in the communities that are going to have to hold the balance here.
27:05We're going to have to do it through discipline and standards. It's going to be difficult. And that's why we've got to work at it. We're talking of standards. So you're 20 years in the military. Obviously, they've kind of changed the demographic of the whole framework due to multiculturalism. Sure. Did you see an incline or a decline in standards? So when I left in 2018, remember, I was teaching people to fly fast jets, right? So the people that come through fast jet flying training have probably been doing so for about five, six years. It should be a three and a half year training course. It took a bit longer just because the way we do it in the Air Force.
27:36Highly motivated individuals, all ethnicities, all sexes, all that kind of stuff, right? So I left in 2018. The diversity training we did was half a day a year where the bloke around the diversity training was probably the most racist bloke you've come across. You know what I mean? He was a good dude. Another pilot. Funny boy. He was, he must have been half Turkish or something. You know, he's a minority himself. But funny guy. And he'd go, right, don't be racist. Everyone understand. We'd all go, yeah, right. You know, don't be sexist. That was it. And we all knew it. It wasn't a thing. And I say it wasn't a thing because I grew up like David Thompson, Linford Christie, you know what I mean?
28:08Frank Bruno. I spoke to Frank Bruno on Twitter, actually. Lovely bloke. But we didn't look at these as black men. We looked at them as British men. They were heroes of ours. Still are. Absolutely still are, right? I mean, people go, they're not English. It's like, well, if you want to be an ethno-nationalist, then arguably you could say that heritage is not English. But who's more English than Frank Bruno? Legend. Yeah. We're saying that Frank Bruno is not an Englishman. It's a ridiculous notion. So when we're having all these diversity classes in - Great point. Well, when we're having all these classes in the military, diversity back up until 2018, it was just like, you've got to just stamp.
28:39Everyone, you're diverse. Right, Brent, you've done it. When we left and this stuff started coming out, what the Air Force was doing was throwing all minorities of women at the Air Force. Because remember, Ben Wallace, who was the Defence Secretary, I've argued with Ben in the past, he was trying to get the 30 by 30. So he wanted 30 % of the military to be women by 30-30. There was no reason for it. And what the Air Force did, because the problem with the military, they can do people. If you tell them to do something, they'll do it. And they'll do it twice as well, and they'll do it twice as fast, and that's what they do.
29:11So what happened in the military under Mike Wigston, who was the chief of the military, I was sorry, chief of the Air Force, under the Air Force, under Mike Wigson. He used to be a boss of mine. Lovely man, I like him, but the guy obviously went a bit mental. He decided to do better than that. He was going to get 40 % of the Air Force to be women. And 20%, sorry, 40 % women, 20 % minorities by 2030. There was no reason for it, but you'd have 40 % of the Air Force as women, 20 % of the Air Force. There's not 20 % minorities in the country. So I said, why not 50 % then? You're being sexist, mate, aren't you?
29:39You know, I mean, let's take the piss out of it. Play them at their own game. Exactly. He goes, well, that'd be silly, wouldn't it? Well, 40 % silly, mate, because at the moment, the Air Force has got 16 % women. Highest of any of the forces, 16%. 3 % minorities, 16 % women. Higher number of women in the Air Force than anything else, but lower number of minorities. Anything outside of meritocracy is silly. Well, it should be. And dangerous, surely. Yeah, of course it is. But we're talking to politicised people. We're not talking to rational people. Because when you get to a certain level in anything, police, military, politics is your game now.
30:10It has to be, or else you're not going to level up. And this is why you have this disconnect. don't you? They have this kind of, this band, we call them a sort of middle tier promotion in the military. I'd say it's the wing commander, maybe the group captain sort of area, which is, you've been in for 25, 30 years, you're invested, right? So if you leave now, you'll never get into the top of your game by going and working for, I don't know, Deutsche Bank or something like that. If you leave after 30 years in the military, you haven't put the groundwork in, you can't. You'll be that kind of guy, that advisor, that middle tier guy.
30:34So in the military, if you're in for 25, 30 years, you're either going up or you're going out into obscurity. So you will invest in the political side of it. I don't blame anyone for doing so. I never wanted to do it myself. I am saying it's moralistically empty, but I understand why people do it. But for me, the main thing about what the Air Force did is it wasn't working on merit. And when you put guys in fast jet cockpits, guys, universal term, I've got to say it because people in your comments will go, what about the girls? Yeah, shut up. I know. I trained lots of women, right? But when you put these people in cockpits, you fly next to them in cloud, like this far away from the wingtips.
31:08People die. Like they die. I buried a lot of friends. and if that person's there because of his skin colour and not because of how good he is then I don't want to be near that person I don't want him in a jet with me and I can't make him any better because they level out and they plateau and the problem with putting minorities and women or even just people who may let's pretend someone's got a father in the military and he gets in through the back door let's pretend it doesn't happen by the way I've never seen it happen but let's pretend it did that person doesn't believe in themselves either because they haven't got there by merit and one of the biggest factors we have at the moment is when we force minorities into something or when you force women into something, they get to the point where they don't believe in themselves because they haven't done the work to get there.
31:45Not all of them. I'm saying when you force certain numbers. Because I know women that are just fantastic at piloting and everything else. That's like an organic imposter syndrome. Yeah, exactly. It's a good way of looking at it. It's organic. Yeah, absolutely. It is an imposter syndrome. It's a lack of self-belief. But it's literally driven externally by people that have decided to force these people into these roles. But it's not like they've gone and tried to get themselves but when you pick a kid up off the street and you say you'll be good in the military and he's like why is that oh shut up just get in it's because he's black that kid's in the military he hasn't invested years because he hasn't known about it now he's in the military he might stay two or three years he doesn't know why he's there he doesn't believe that he's getting i mean i know a guy a good friend of mine actually um when i was in and he's quite seen in the military now and i've heard recently that he thinks he's only getting these postings because of the fact he's a black guy from northern Uganda.
32:37His heritage. He's an Englishman. Well, he's a Britishman. There we go. His heritage is Ugandan. But he thinks he's only getting there now because of his push. And of course, the guy feels he's being promoted above his abilities. And he might well struggle with the roles he's been given. But it must be a horrible feeling to feel that uncomfortable. Do you know what? I wouldn't want to be picked for the team for being short, white and bald. I'd want to be picked for the team because I was fucking good at what they were looking for. Yeah, I was sure that outsider, all the guys sitting there thinking everyone's looking at you.
33:01Yeah, what's good for the who's good for the gang it works both ways it was never like that on squadrons there was no one on a squadron that hadn't earned a place being there what makes a good soldier well I don't know about soldiering too much my father was a marine but the only soldier I ever did was in the officer training corps what makes a good military man yeah okay we'll put that or woman of course sorry that's right I understand it's the same thing or trans or minority group or cat actually like we can identify as them now we can identify as them what makes a good military captain okay we'll do that shall we so you've got to look Look at the bigger picture.
33:33You've got to look at other people. This is the thing. It's service before self, isn't it? So you come second. And someone always told me, look, you're never going to be bigger than the Air Force. Well, that's great then because the Air Force is fantastic. I love it. I'm glad I'm there. Same with the Navy. You know, I'm a very lucky man. But I'm never bigger and better than that ever. So everything we do is towards that bigger thing. I've never seen anyone in the military think they were bigger than the unit they were serving on. I think I've seen people come out and they've exploited their back.
34:00People say that about me, you know, weren't they? I'm thinking people like, I'll just throw Ant Middleton's name out only because I've watched a lot of his stuff recently because of his push for mayor of London. And I've just thought, what kind of character is Ant Middleton? And I think, unfortunately, Ant now coming out is really leveraging everything about that for his brand. Fair enough. We've got nothing else when we come out, right? So fair enough. I'm not having to go at Ant at all. I'm just thinking whether he's suitable for London mayor. I don't think he is at all. We can chat about it.
34:27It's fine. I'm happy to talk about that. So the person that's the best military person, the person that puts the military unit before themselves above all, right? I think the Americans call it like God, country, don't they, unit or something. And there's an order for it. So yeah, you have to be patriotic. And my worry is that people joining the military aren't necessarily putting the country first, they're putting the community first. And we see that with specific communities, specifically Islam, where Islam is put before anything else. And I think that's very dangerous to put in a military unit.
34:54We've seen adverts, the army advert, where the guy was praying. I think that sent a completely wrong message. I can see why the military wants to put it out, because, of course, if British guys aren't joining anymore, and they are, but not in the rate they were, many reasons for that, by the way, then who else is going to serve? Well, let's get immigrants in. Let's get massive amounts of immigrants in. And that's twofold. We get immigrants in so that immigrants can see immigrants are in, therefore immigrants are going to join. They believe this multiculturalism is the best thing. But, yeah, the best person I ever met in the military was the person that put the military before themselves.
35:24Yeah, service before self is great. I mean, that's kind of words to live by. You're not bigger than the team. Well, the community, like your community that we're in, like you as a man, as a place within your district community, all the clubs you go to, the gym, the pubs, whatever it might be, if you're that twat that's doing stupid stuff, you're going to embarrass everyone, everyone that knows you, right? So we self-regulate, don't we? We go, we're putting a bit of weight on whatever. I'm going through a bit of a weight, bit of not weight. I was bulking for the rowing season and then I'm not bulking.
35:52I'm like, you know, I know what's happening. Winter's coming up and work comes back in again. But it takes people in a boat with me to go, right, what weight are we going to be hitting then? Because you're putting a few pounds on. Well, let's go for 95 then. Let's go, whatever it might be. So you're self-regulated by the people. So, you know, I think that's what we do. And that's why the service is more important than the individual because it kind of has to be. Was there anything that was really harrowing in your 20 years of experience that when you went into City Street made it more difficult because then you used alcohol to cope?
36:19So what was the process? Of transitioning back into... Yeah, what was the trauma? How was the transition? And then how did you cope? Yeah, it's interesting. So a lot of people, and when you speak to people that have been in firefights and stuff like that, that's not necessarily that traumatic because they're designed for that. That's what they're there to do. And they put rounds down range and their mates get hit, whatever, and they sort them out and they get them out. Their training has been, the trauma tends to come for when you haven't been trained for or you haven't been expected that. A lot of the trauma from the soldiers that I speak to come from being in theatre and not firing a single round.
36:53You know what I mean? Their mate's been blown up by an IED. They're like, I can't do fuck all about this. Like, I can't shoot at anyone. My mate's dead. Helplessness. Yeah. I can't put any rounds down range. There's nothing to shoot at. I've come back on my whole tour without putting a single round down range. You'll hear boys that have put just millions of rounds down range. You'll hear boys that have put none down. And when I hear the guys that have been in firefights, I live near Hereford, so I speak to a few SF mates, but when you hear about those guys, they don't seem to have the same trauma than the guys do who maybe have been hit by an IED, that haven't been in a firefight.
37:24So a lot of the traumas I see men coming out of the military are micro traumas that have built up over a long period of time. No one talks about it. Everyone says, well, that's being wet, mate. Well, maybe it is being wet, but one traumatic event can be dealt with. You got shot. All right, you lost a leg. All right, we can deal with that. Rehabilitation is a process. People at Headley Court are going to look after you. Combat stress is going to look after you. You're going to go through this thing. You're going to meet another. That's an American SF guy. He lost a leg as well. Go and play basketball with him, whatever.
37:50there's mechanisms set up a lot of the guys that write to me are guys who haven't got something they haven't missed their leg, they're fine they're bloody fine and their mates have been killed or they went to theatre they wanted to do something but they never got around or they put some admin job or fuck, the IED hit the range over behind them and it should have been them and it wasn't it was their mate. Guilt. Yeah, so it builds up in these micro things and they come outside and how do you deal with these and also the boss was a dick. One of the worst cases I ever saw before and I tell this story all the time so if you've heard it before I'm sorry I'll shut up but it was a guy who was in charge of a minesweeper out in the early days of Iraq right and he was told to go up this river and at the top of the river there was a big channel and he said on that channel there's mines go up the river get that channel we've got to sweep it quickly so get up there now start sweeping it he was like right I'll do that so on his minesweep he went up there with his crew he got to that channel and he swept the channel and he got all the mines and he diffused all the mines and he came back and he rushed back down this river again and they got back home.
38:46And then when they got back home, his boss said, right, you've done the channel. Yeah, right. Now do the river. He goes, what do you mean? Because do the river that you've just been up and down. He goes, well, you told me, he goes, no, we need you to do the channel first. If I told you about the river, that'd be mine. You'll never have gone through the river. And he felt so let down by his command chain because he would have understand it. He would have understood it. If the boss had said, what you're about to do is bloody stupid and hazardous, mate. Just this river's got mines in it as well. Get to the channel up top and diffuse that first.
39:14It's a risk, sorry. But because he wasn't told that, it just destroyed him. And, you know, I hear from soldiers a similar thing about, you know, the IEDs that didn't get them, the fact they never fired a shot and they feel like less of a man because they were trained for that. One of the worst things is training all your life for something and never getting to do it. You know, you could argue the training has a value in itself, but never getting to do it. I never, you know, I never was able to prosecute a target in the tornado at night in valleys on train following radar. Never got a chance to do that.
39:43designed for it wanted it never got to do it what happened with you or to you that stuck well I think for me there was no one event as such like no big event I don't think it was like that just the microtraumas yeah I think well the alcoholism I think was familiar as well so if we're honest say my father my mother brothers and sisters there's something there hereditary yeah yeah any addiction I think is hereditary it's got to be something they reckon it's an enzyme to do with the liver or something don't they where you can process alcohol a lot quicker therefore you drink a lot more I remember going to the bar happy hours all the time in the evenings and I'd have to get a beer in first.
40:15So when the boys came in, I'd have a beer down already. You know what I mean? Because people drink slowly, don't they? Just so you know, you're in good hands. I'm a problem drinker. I would probably, you know, if I was to label myself, I would be considered an addict. And I think people with high functioning brains or we call it ADHD if we label ourselves, we're probably both there or thereabouts. We've probably got a hundred thoughts going in at once. We're prone because that stops the noise temporarily. So I can relate to whatever. What story are you going to tell me now? I can relate and I've probably been there.
40:44There's no shame. Well, I had a guy, there was, I'll tell you this now. There's four officers on a squadron. There's a boss and then there's what's called three flight commanders. And under the flight commanders, every flight commander has a certain number of people on different squadrons, different number. I think I had 12 on my flight and the guy next to me had 20, I think it was, because different flights, different purposes. Then there's a boss that's on top. And next to me in another office, I was OCB flight and OCA flight, a guy called Ricky, lovely bloke. He was a Harrier mate. He spent a lot of time in Afghan, doing a lot of kinetic stuff, dropping a lot of bombs on compounds, killing a lot of people.
41:20And he was flying, he was going through some trauma, lovely bloke. He used to rock backs and forwards when he's, you know, make weird noises. Everyone knew, he was just Rick. He's a very talented pilot, like top, top dude. And one day he comes in to my office and he says, have you thought about going and seeing someone? Because we're all angry at the squadron. I mean, this was flying training. This was the privatisation of flying training causing massive amounts of damage throughout the Royal Air Force flying training system at the time, back in 2011, 2012. Really difficult time. He says, have you thought about going and seeing someone?
41:55I was like, no, Ricky, what do you mean? He goes, I've just seen this dude down in Telford. Part of the Department of Community Mental Health is a psychiatrist, right? You can go and see him and you can get a day off work. You know what I mean? And you go and see him, he's going to chat you about stuff. Yeah, I'm fucking, I'm going. I'm going. So I went to see him. I went to see this guy because Rick said go and see him. And he'd helped Rick out, you know, and saw this boy. And he was a group captain. And I went in there. And I remember in the waiting room, I was sitting next to this guy with one arm, this young boy with one arm.
42:22I'm like, why am I here? You know what I mean? He's just got some weird stuff going on, but this boy's missing an arm, you know. Weird stuff. And I went to see this group captain. And we chatted about stuff which was pretty obvious, stress, panic, all that kind of comfort curves and things like this, and how to deal with stress management. I've been in the Air Force for 15 years. And he said, whatever you do, don't stop drinking. Don't stop. Don't stop drinking. And I actually, I was like, thank you, thank you, boss, because that's quite a good thing to hear, isn't it? You know what I mean? I was always open with doctors about my drinking.
42:47I was always open about it. What did he say? The last thing we want you is up there, cold turkey. That's what he said, yeah. Yeah. Don't give it up. He said, the only reason you get into aeroplanes. He said, you guys. He obviously knew it was more of a problem. You weren't flying pissed, were you? No, I never got into a jet. No, never cracked a tinny as I strapped in, no. I mean, you are a wild one. We talk about that. We talk about the maintenance of a habit in that environment. But remember him saying, don't stop drinking. And then I also remember him writing to me eight months later saying, oh, sorry, I've forgotten to follow up.
43:15Do you want to come down and see me again? Meet you in the pub. Yeah, meet you in the pub, yeah. So no, you're never getting there. I mean, I remember some massive sessions with some very big personalities in the Air Force that I will mention no names of. When we walked out to Jets that morning, the following morning, some very big names that will be in the press i never talk about it doesn't matter i remember all of us talking about we're good to fly you know i mean you're right to fly in the olden days it was more of a thing like people would just get in the phantom guys and the buccaneer guys you know legends would smash it all night climbing into the cockpit 100 % oxygen crack on get the job done and that would that manifest itself throughout my training it was like you know a work hard play hard mentality we want to see you in the bar like you've had a shit trip today in the bar and you'd be in the bar from five o 'clock you drink three to about 10 going to the wife go back tomorrow do the same thing it was a pretty hardcore existence but then it mellowed as we um went into the 2012 2013 40 15 i suppose really the squadrons weren't the same the ones i was on was i said privatized by the um by the by civilian companies and it wasn't as unified so therefore the bar presence wasn't as big.
44:26So you tend to go and drink at home. And then drinking at home, of course, there's no one to monitor you, is there? Yeah, that's a one-way street to devastation, that is. Yeah, but you never, I used to walk into work because I was too worried about driving. And then if I was flying first thing, the worst things that can happen sometimes is you're down to fly maybe mid-morning or late in the day. You know you can crack into the tins. And when people talk tins, a lot of people don't understand what I'm talking about when I say that, like a few beers. I'm not talking a few beers. As they point out, I'm a few beers.
44:53my sister was very good at this she used to my older sister she used to say when people at work would say should we go out for a few cocktails after work she'd be like how many I mean what do you mean a few cocktails we're talking one or two and they go well a few no I need an exact number because I need to buy a bottle of wine she never said this but she wanted to buy a bottle of wine or two on the way home and have them ready because a couple of cocktails are not going to touch the size is it you know what I mean one's too many and a hundred's not enough absolutely I can't stop drinking so and why would you bother why start if you're not going to carry on For me, it doesn't, I can't have one or two and go, oh, I'm done.
45:25That's not me. How long have you been sober for? Two and a half years. Good man. Yeah, no, it's all right. I don't even think about it anymore. I do all the time, but in a very different way. I now look more at suffering and sacrifice as being a burden of a man that needs to, you need to carry and you need work through. It's like carrying a cross for life. My burden was alcohol. Hopefully it's the only one I have to carry, you know what I mean? But that's my burden. So I'll carry that cross and hopefully I can help other people go through something similar. I mean, there's so many people that self-soothe.
45:53And also drinking is, well, from my understanding, it's quite a big part of the military culture. I mean, all of my friends that are in the military, they played hard, they worked hard, and they come out and they used alcohol to self-soothe and cope, you know, to sort of segue into civistry, because that's a hell of a change, isn't it? Yeah, it's massive. One minute you're in uniform of a purpose and routine, next minute you're out. And I don't see my military friends that are suffering get a great deal of support either. Well, let's be realistic about the support thing as well, because when we talk to veterans, I'm like, I'm a big fan of saying to veterans, look mate, did you not know what you were doing when you went into this, right?
46:27Because we were young, we were young, 18, 20, whatever it might be. I was 23, 24. We knew it was the military we went into. We knew it was the military. No one said it was going to be easy. No one said coming out of the military is going to be easy. We've known for a long time coming out, but no one's going to save you. No one cares about you that much. And it's quite a hard thing to say, but also it's really helpful for a military guy because you can kind of embrace that now. You can fuck off the victimhood, right? because you're being a twat. Let's stop it, mate. No one's going to come and save you.
46:51No one cares about you. You think you do. Your mum might. Your wife probably doesn't, actually, because she can always go and find a bloke that's not whinging about being in the military and not having any, you know what I mean? Stop fucking around with alcohol for a start. The gym is there for a reason, all right? Or a backpack in the hills, very popular one, trying to throw yourself off a cliff. You know, we have to just somehow pick ourselves up because no one's going to do it. Now, you can grab some other boys if you want, and there are some other men out there that will go walking with you.
47:16I get written to all the time. I'm not a friendly person to be around a lot of times. So I'm not going to go walking on heels with you. I'm not a psychiatrist. I don't want to speak to you about your problems. I don't. I fucking don't. I've got my own problems to speak about. You know what I mean? I'm not there to listen to your sob story. But if you want to write it to me, I'll write your nice email back. I will because I'm happy with that. You're a nice guy, just not a friendly guy. Where's the value exchange? We're all trying to run businesses. There has to be an exchange of value in everything.
47:39Of course it does. I say that. If someone writes to me and says, Tim, I love your YouTube channel, mate. I think what you're doing is great. looking a bit fat sort it out brilliant love that can you help me with this did you tell him it's bulking season yeah exactly yeah yeah I'm on a yo-yo diet I'll write back to them mate I hope yeah definitely I'll write back but if they're like you know this is me woe is me I've got a couple of little secretary girls who are lovely but they're very young and they won't even send that stuff through and I used to answer everything but then you're not getting any work done and then you're not the money's not going back into the family and unfortunately no one's as I said no one's coming to save you.
48:14It's a really empowering thing, I think, because most men know that. It's like, I'll fucking pick you up, mate, when you're down, because you're useful to me. But you're only useful to me if you're going to sort that fucking brain out and get out of your victimhood narrative and drive yourself forward. And this is why sitting down and talking sometimes to another person is, and I think, I'll caveat that, if you've had sexual abuse trauma as a youngster, I think it works. From what I've read, my sister will tell me that that works. She's a psychiatrist. But men don't do well to sitting down and talking about problems.
48:42what men do well is said moving forward with some kind of purpose and suffering and the whether that's you get on a motorcycle and you ride you ride halfway across the world and you sleep by the side of the road sometimes because you can't afford to get a B &B if that's your jam do that if it's you walk up a hill you go to the Brecon Beacons and you do the fan dance or whatever and you work hard to get yourself fit enough to do that that should there's something that will motivate you to get out of your head but if you sit there all the time and I know this because I've done it by the way slamming the beers in sitting at home whinging about how bad life is that's where you're going to be forever you can be that guy and I know that because I was that guy or you can do something about it and you can move forward but chatting about it going and seeking help again combat stress those kind of people I think the reason they work is not because of what they do and facilitating the conversation on an individual level with say a psychiatrist I think they work because other men can see other men and they can see other men struggling and they can go right we're all the same here right should we do something about this now You know what I mean?
49:41It's funny how men also, I mean, I am guilty of this. I can give great advice, really good advice, but it's taking your own. So all those men you just described, I've been all those men. I've isolated myself, got lost in the source to deal with something I'm unhappy with. I've then gone and taken myself abroad on multiple occasions by myself, sat in restaurants by myself. I do it all the time. Gone to the gym by myself, not really said how I truly, truly feel. Is it fear of exposing your vulnerabilities? I can't quite put my finger on it, but I'm also the first to sort of, if I'm sad, tell you I'm sad.
50:13I'm a bit of a dichotomy. I've got it all in there. It's just working out the balance. But I think out of all the things I've used to cope with my traumas in life, and that can be anything from your dad abusing you, just splitting up with your wife. Divorce hurts. Smallest things can do. Losing your business. The best coping mechanism for me that got the best results, and I'm sort of on that journey now, this very day, is sober, Be in the moment, the power of now, and talk. Be honest. Have the conversation with yourself you don't really want to have, the scary one. Look at yourself and say, where are you going to go from here?
50:47So when I talk about faith a lot, all right, and I'm not necessarily talking about faith in God, I'm talking about faith in the person you could have been. So if you did everything right, if you stopped all those things, you know, the bad habits you've got, the way you treat people negatively, you know, the negative self-talk. If you could go back to maybe 10 years ago, let's just pick a date, doesn't it? And you go, right, from now on, I'm not going to be a little bitch. I'm going to be someone that I respect. I'm going to do work to make myself. We respect ourselves when we do the work, right?
51:12If I don't row 15 ,000 metres a day, which for the last, I have been doing it this week, but a couple of weeks previous, I haven't been doing that. I don't respect myself. I've got to do that rowing because I know that I respect myself more. If I don't respect myself more, I'll go into bad habits again. The wife will have the chocolate on the sofa. I'll be like, oh, a Freddy frog. I see your Freddy frog. Massive nom. Bulk. Yeah, yeah. Where's the rest of them? because I'm in now. You know what I mean? I may as well. We're all there, right? I'm an addict. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need a hundred of them.
51:37Yeah, if they're a bad few, they ban them, but they haven't, so I'll have them. So, but if I'm not doing the work, I'll allow those bad habits to come in. I'm the same. And we all know it, right? So it's the same thing. Like the work, like the not snapping at the wife sometimes takes work. The enforcing discipline in the household takes work. The being the, I'm not a dad, but I've got nieces and nephews. Being that uncle that sets a few boundaries and is a bit unpopular for a while It takes a bit of work. It's not nice. It's not kind. You don't feel good about it, but it's the hard thing to do.
52:04So if we do those hard things, if you went back a decade and you did those things that actually were hard to do, that faith in that person you could have been, what does that feel like? What does that mean? When I talk about faith, I don't necessarily mean talking about like a higher power or universal constant, whatever people want to be. I mean, talking about what you could be in the future. Like if you were just putting a bit more effort in and not being such a victim about how bad the world is. Be accountable. and just do something. Accountability is so important. What was your greatest accolade in the military?
52:36Well, it's not popular with a lot of people, but what I did is I brought in a report. Well, I did an investigation into a friend of all of ours who died, a guy called John Hagan. He's a Red Arrow. He died back in 2011 at an air show in Bournemouth. Flew into the ground. And when we're doing the investigation, seven weeks later, up at Scampton with the team, the Red Arrows, and I was supposed to take a jet flying that day. And the jet was, the flight Leeds jet, a guy called Ben Murphy, lovely bloke. He was the red arrows. And what we're going to do is just calibrate the airspeed indicator to what's called a data acquisition unit.
53:07And we were just going to make sure that what Ben was seeing on his speedo was the same as what the data we had from the aircraft. Just discrepancies. It was an easy flight, but the weather was bad. And so a mate of mine, Sean Cunningham, who was in the team, said, Tim, can I take the jets instead? I said, yes. And he was killed. He crewed into the jet and the ejection seat fired for many reasons. And he was ejected and he was killed. Shouldn't have happened. The seat was done badly and he was killed. Poor engineering in the greatest squadron in the Royal Air Force. The whole thing was a mess.
53:38Anyway, from that, there were two girls working there on the Centre of Aviation and Medicine, and they would write reports on all this stuff we were doing. So we're doing a big investigation. They're very good. And they said they knew what was happening on my squadron at the time, which I was a flight commander on, which was four squadron that were being privatised in flying training. Fast jets, Hawks, a lot of people, 80 pilots, so quite a lot. and it was falling apart, really dangerous, horrible place. And they said, we can come to your squadron and we can do a report as if you've just had an accident.
54:06They offer this service. It's an operational evaluation report, I believe it's called. And then we interview everyone and we work out, like we pretend you've had an accident and we work out what went wrong and therefore we prevent an accident happening. I was like, that's brilliant. So I went to the boss, was not interested at all. Of course he wasn't because they're going to tell the boss what's wrong in his squadron. He was trying to pretend everything was all right. We had foreign guys coming and visiting us from Australia and America. They were flying with us going, you guys are going to die.
54:31Like these are full on fighter pilot mates, like we all were, coming on going, what you're doing here, this killed us in the past, mate. I remember one Australian who was in the backseat of one of our aircraft doing air combat, and they almost came together and killed each other. And he got down, he went, I'm not flying with you guys again. This is wrong. What you're doing is wrong. And he was right, absolutely right. I was in training at the time. I wasn't, so when I became the squad and I said, we need to proactively, it's like when you do an audit of yourself. Like I'm being a bellend. I'm smashed up all the time.
54:59I've got a coat cabinet. I've got a wife that hates me. She's having 17 affairs with the gym instructor. I'm auditing myself right now, right? Same for a squadron. We need to audit the squadron. Boss wasn't interested. Station commander wasn't interested. Of course they weren't interested. So in the end, what we did is we, we basically leaked the fact that we could have this report to a higher authority. And we leaked the fact that the squadron was in a really bad way, which we shouldn't have done of course because you don't go by the chain of command but that higher authority when I didn't realise how bad it was get the report done and they did the report the boss stood on the report wouldn't release it they were there for like six weeks ripping the squadron apart these two girls very clever women right psychologists and shit just uber degrees and they interviewed everyone and they were like yeah this is the worst we've seen in fact they won a watchkeeper like an army squadron like a few weeks before and they said to them if you don't do something about this you'll lose one of your watchkeeper drones within the next two months.
55:55And the army squadron lost it within like three or four weeks. They crashed it. So these girls knew what they were doing. And the boss stood on this report once it was done, really damning report. And then someone in my team, as it were, managed to leak that back out. And it got the squadron shut down for six months. And it allowed me to build my team of instructors up to the point where we then had a very stable, because when you civilianize something and there's contracts involved, understandably so, people want to get paid, right? The military is different. We're getting paid anyway. So we'll dig out 14, 16 hour days to get it done.
56:26The civilians, it's not like that. And rightly so, because it's a different contract with them. So they wanted to get courses out the door because they got paid for every course getting finished. Whereas we didn't really care too much. We wanted the quality, right? They wanted the quantity. So by getting this report out, it was just saying if we carry on flying, people are going to die. And then when the higher authority saw that, he shut us down and let us build a proper squadron as it should be as an Air Force squadron. And so I think that probably, I've had people write to me and say, look, getting that out saved our lives.
56:54Like literally it saved our lives. So out of all the stuff I did in the military, I think the one thing that probably was the right thing was, was actually the worst thing for a lot of people in the military, but it did a lot of good. Being a Maverick played out for the best. Yeah. And I understand that's one of another four years after that, getting kicked around by some senior people. Speaking of Maverick, this is just my pure curiosity. And then I'm going to bring it back to current day. Lass them your lemon while she's, tell me. Please do. Brilliant. Well, I want to ask you, Iron Eagle, Top Gun, or Officer and a Gentleman?
57:26Iron Eagle. You've seen Iron Eagle? I've seen them all. It's like five of them now, isn't there? Four of them? It's a horror. I mean, Iron Eagle was the greatest film. Buggy Masters, Chappie Sinclair. Brilliant. Iron Eagle was a great film. That Iron Eagle came out before Top Gun, but because they used, because it was about stealing aircraft. They had to go to the Israelis, use Israeli's aircraft instead because the United States Air Force wouldn't let them use F-16s. Top Gun, Officer and Gentleman. I mean, the genre, The films back then, I've started watching those old films again. Same. I watch them on repeat.
57:51Oh, cocktail. They don't make them like that. No, they don't, do they? They don't. They do not make them like that. And there's so many. I saw Notting Hill the other day. You've seen that? Brilliant. Four Weddings and a Funeral. How slow are they, though? Yeah. Nothing's happening. We're used to such a fast pace now. Every seven seconds. Every seven seconds. Now I'm watching this. My wife's going a bit bored. I'm like, she watches that Love Island or that Temptation Island. I've got to sit there going, this is interesting. So yeah, I mean, all those films are a genre. I like Lone Survivor. I love all that stuff.
58:16Yeah, I want to put this on record. I mean, I love them all. But for me, An Officer and A Gentleman, I mean, that hits the spot every time. I laugh, I cry, I feel pumped, I feel sad. I sing, obviously, at the end. Obviously, you do, yeah. Clearly. Yeah, love it. But, yeah, we totally moved off. But I had to know. And people watching, they needed to know. Iron Eagle. I'm Iron Eagle. You're Iron Eagle. You're Officer and A Gentleman. I'm Officer and A Gentleman. Who's Top Gun? The rest of them, yeah. Everyone else. So today, as we live and breathe, would you want to fight for Keir Starmer? Well, no one's fighting for Keir Starmer.
58:50You're fighting for the king. Would you want to fight for him? It's a crown service. The military's under the crown, not under the politicians. It's just that the power gets devolved. Same with the police force, remember? The police are crown servants. They're not servants of politicians. So you wouldn't have to go to war because Blair told you to. I mean, it kind of works out that way. But you go to war because the Queen Elizabeth II signed your commissioning scroll. Or the Queen. I mean, we all love the Queen. the king unfortunately is a little bit different he's still a king he's still a king he is a little bit different and maybe when william comes in thing will be a bit different who would you fight and die for in in this day and age i fight die for the man standing next to me it doesn't matter who that man is right and that's what you have to remember when when people storm the beaches these weren't these weren't the most moralistically virtuous people in the world they were ragtags but they were Englishmen or they were Welshmen, Scotsmen, Irishmen.
59:41I try and tell these people all the time. We expect people, like we started with Tony Robinson, we expect him to be perfect but he's not. Of course he's bloody not. You're not, I'm not. But we're still there to fight. And what we're fighting for, we're fighting for the person standing next to us, right? That's why men have to be upstanding. This is why I keep saying that the Englishmen, the Irishmen, Scotsmen, Welshmen, you've got to stand up at some point and you've got to say we're not willing to tolerate this. We're not willing to tolerate what's happening to our young children with the rape gangs, whatever it is.
1:00:05and the way we do it I need to be quite responsible but it's not going to be perfect so I would fight and die for the man standing next to me he's got a family I've got a family and that's what you do you don't think about necessarily whether he's the best person in the world because he's there he's put himself there a lot of people haven't ever put themselves there they've never done something for someone else they've done it for themselves and that's why I talk about service first service before self and it's hard if it was easy we'd all do it because everything's easy right so we'd all be driving Lamborghinis I mean you know I could go and buy I could go and put a PCP on Lamborghini tomorrow but it's not the guy I am.
1:00:36The guy I am is trying to do something for other people to lift everyone. So it's very rare you'd fight for your king. I mean, remember, kings used to be on the battlefield with you and then you'd be looking at them. There's a speech. Brilliant. Let's go. Excellent. It doesn't work like that. So it's your unit you tend to fight with. You tend to fight for. Lovely answer. I'm now curious as to why you slipped from left-leaning politics to right-leaning politics. I just can't imagine you with blue hair. No, I wasn't left. My family's left. But you weren't left. I thought you were left. No, I was.
1:01:07Well, see, family's left. So when we grew up, what do we believe in? We believe in universal healthcare. Of course we do. Remember, it was a very different country back then when I was growing up. That's true enough. Labor was very different to labor now. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. So when we thought about NHS, we loved the fact we had this thing that if you did get ill, no fault of your own, there's something to look after you, right? And we laughed at America. You haven't got that. You've got to pay for it. You know what I mean? It wasn't being abused like it is now with people coming over. I mean, let's throw some names like Kemi Bednock, an anchor baby.
1:01:34Her mother came over before 1981. She had Kemi Bednock. So that Kemi Bednock will get British citizenship before they banned it. Then she took Kemi Bednock back to Nigeria where she educated Kemi. Then she put Kemi in the United States where Kemi was educated. Then Kemi comes over here, says she's more aligned with the Yoruba tribe than she is with anything British. And then recently she says, actually, I feel quite British. That wasn't around when I was there. People didn't abuse the structure of the NHS. The NHS was there to look after our mums and our dads and our old people and everything else.
1:02:02So we're quite proud of that. You know, we're quite proud of what we felt was a very liberal democracy, best country in the world. But remember, when you start dividing a country up along sectarian lines, racial divides, it becomes very difficult to support that because you don't identify with it anymore. So I walk around here where you are, where I am is more country-oriented, but I know it's coming out there, right? but only when you see people that look and you can say it's racist it's pattern recognition we have an inherent trust of people that look like ourselves because we grew up with people like ourselves so in a school I went to majority white people right so I know how white mannerisms are but when I had a mate a black guy who flew helicopters in the navy grew up with a white family he was adopted and he was unsure around black people because he grew up with white people so he knew how white people's mannerisms were you're going to call him racist because he's unsure of black people no of course you're not you know what I mean But so we're all, you can say we're all racist, but we're not.
1:02:57We're all biased towards certain elements of pattern recognition. It's an unconscious bias. The left are right. The left are correct. Sorry, there's an unconscious bias that we all have. So what? Let's admit it. So I wasn't left at all. I just understood that universal healthcare was a good thing. We were more of a community orientated. And I felt that's what the left want. The left are so dangerous because they feel they're correct. And when you feel you're righteous and you feel something's right, you'll go and die for that. whereas on the right I think we're more likely we're more able to sit there and go why do we think this is correct and also what's the opposite to it like we've read team a little bit don't we like mate I've got this idea call me a dick and your mates in the pub will go have you thought of this mate no not really fuck okay well I mean and we're flush it out whereas the left if you're a bit especially when you're a bit pathological you're a bit stovepiped you're a bit singular you believe your ideas are correct you believe what you're saying is right and of course it feels right doesn't it Like, bring all the refugees in, no borders.
1:03:55My sister was a big no-border person. And I said, do you lock your house at night? She's like, yeah. Why do you do that? She's like, well, I want to protect my stuff. That's what borders do. So a lot of them, they don't think things through. I call it a near level of, surface level of thinking. And once you start scratching in it, you go around this kind of loop. There's nothing deeper. You scratch at it. Like you say, say that the young lady's outside the hotel in, say, London, full of immigrants. And we know that there's been obviously, well, every day now there's an eight-year-old, a 12-year-old getting raped or something.
1:04:26You see it every time. It flashes me right up, you know what I mean? But let's say that we know that the elements of the immigrant population doing this, why are they young women standing outside a hotel campaigning for the people behind them who we know are responsible for the abuses of their kind? It's pathological. It's like it's a virtue signaling thing. It makes them feel better. Of course, it's much better to say, I believe in immigrants, immigrant rights, than it is to say no immigrants. Because if you say no immigrants, you've got to be quite tough to say that. If you've got to be quite tough to say, I don't want immigrants, because you're going to be challenged.
1:04:56If you say, I want loads of immigrants, people are going to go, what a lovely person. You know what I mean? So I think a lot of people, so when you're young, most of us grew up left. We can't afford anything, right? So we believe in socialising all money and everything else and discounting student fees. And of course we do. I went to Afghanistan in 2011. I met a guy called Gary Good. he later ran for a politician. I think he became a minister out there, actually. And there were a lot of Americans. I was working with the US military completely. I had no British people there at all. So I was with the US Army, in fact, in something called strategic communications, embedded with a three-star general, lovely man, Lieutenant General Caldwell III, lovely guy, under Petraeus, in fact.
1:05:32Petraeus was doing the war effort. And these Americans, deep-thinking people, US Army, very... The higher echelons of the US Army, they put people back through school, real thinkers. And there was a guy there who was talking about Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, conservatism, American conservatism. And I was against it. Like, you know what I mean? This is 2010, 2011, I think it was. And I was talking to him about this. And he was like, well, that's very different to how the left is in America. This was before anything weird kicked off. And I learned a lot about just conservatism, basically. Cameron was in at the time.
1:06:05I had a book called The Making of David Cameron. I was reading about Cameron. I knew something was weird about him, but couldn't work out what it was. and it started drifting me to think more about like independence like what does it mean to have a small government that allows you to keep more of your money and you get to decide where you put that money you might want to put it in in some insurance stuff for your health you might want to put it in maybe a couple hundred quid a month away as a health insurance thing you might want to smoke crack with it but that's your decision you know what I mean you get to decide whether you want to be a crack addict or whether you want to put it in healthcare and there's consequences to that and I got really invested in that a little bit consequences to my actions.
1:06:40That's a revelation. You know what I mean? Because we'd been protected by the safety net before. It doesn't matter what you do. I was a smoker at the time. Like massive smoker, massive drinker. And I always felt like I smoke and drink as much as I want because I've got this universal healthcare system underneath me. It didn't matter. I didn't have to be responsible for my actions. And then when he started talking about that and guns and guns and we'd start talking about weapons because I was carrying firearms and of course we don't normally do that in the UK. And he was talking about the American psyche about firearms, Second Amendment rights, misunderstood in the UK massively.
1:07:10I started thinking, actually, these guys, they're talking a lot of sense. And I listened to this guy and a couple of other guys I was with as well. There were people on the left. There were two guys in the office. One was a Democrat, one was a Republican, and those other guys I listened to. It just got me thinking. And after that, I went and did some reading. Thomas Sowell, some other, you know, lots of people. Started just trying to read both sides and just trying to balance up the argument and then contest the argument with people on my family's very left, as I said. So I go to the family holiday and I say, Donald Trump.
1:07:40And then they go, rage, rage. And I go, all right, but we understand that. But listen to what he's saying. And then you realise that some people won't ever listen to what they're saying. And you think, well, hang on a second. If they're not willing to listen to any kind of argument, are they really on the side that's willing to balance cognitively and have a sort of dialogue that might be a bit exposing and difficult and embarrassing and humiliating? I'm willing to do that because I'm willing to say that I'm probably wrong. A lot of time on my YouTube channel, I'll say, by the way, guys, I think I'm wrong on this.
1:08:07And then the comments will either go, no, yes, no, yes. And that's great. I have a conversation. People in the comments on your YouTube and my YouTube are actually bloody clever than we think, right? And they write some really intelligent stuff. They're enlightened people. It's weird, isn't it? I've learned a lot from people in the comments. So online, what I realize is sometimes in my comments, they're different people now. The people that were so vociferous and angry at me have gone. They've changed. Someone else has come in. And so people do evolve. And so I think it's quite dangerous to say the left are all bigoted, stereotyped, singular views, because the left, it does move around.
1:08:40It does change. People basically look at the left as they grow up. And they might be 50 when they grow up or 60, but they grow up. And a lot of it is when they realise they have to take personal accountability and responsibility for their actions and no one's going to look after them. That's when they start going, all right, OK, I do need to hit the gym. I'm going to get fat. Or the NHS can't look after me because it's been flooded with migration. I mean, so I don't, so when my family, when I speak to them at the annual family holiday, and they hate my channel, by the way, a lot of my uncles and aunts hate my channel, I mean, with a real hatred, you know, I challenge their views.
1:09:12And you can see now, you can see them going, well, yeah, you know, in fact, some of them lived in Crawley, and I remember them saying, yeah, Crawley's quite busy now, isn't it, with lots of immigrants. That's where I'm from. Yeah, Crawley lives in Crawley, yeah. So I'm quite familiar with this kind of area. Well, props to you for going against the grain and being balanced and being open to new ideas. And here's a thought or an idea. In fact, it's actually a thought of an idea, an ideology being part of British politics. So the question is, does Islam have a place in British politics? Well, I say Islam doesn't have a place in the West.
1:09:47So by definition, it doesn't then, no. And I stand by that. and I honestly believe has no place in what we see as the West at the moment. Now the West might become Islamic and of course Islam has a place in an Islamic West but the West isn't Islamic at the moment. I don't think it's compatible with what we would see as Western values at the moment. Absolutely, I don't feel compatible whatsoever. I get a lot of hate from that, couldn't care less. I don't particularly want Islam in England. Why? Why in this Christian land should I have... If Islam, if Muslims, if Islam was so good in Islamic countries, why would they come to this country then?
1:10:19and why they come to this country and then complain about how bad this country is. Go back. Because if you don't go back, there's a big piece of sea surrounding this island and I very much doubt many of them can swim. It's a big trap. They've come here, they've trapped themselves in and they're talking shit. It's pissing a lot of people off and they're doing things that are very un-British, let's just say, with the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. Now, it's not everyone, not at all, I'm not saying that, but what we're not getting is the Muslim communities calling out bad Muslim behaviours. and that's my big thing about it because we call it we call out bad people all the time don't get me wrong and we do um but we don't see it that way around and people will say well they do or they're worried or they're afraid of business well you better be afraid who do you want to be afraid of more people in your own community or do you want to be afraid of people that surrounding you outnumbering you 10 to 1 because i'll be more worried about that because that's not something i'm wanting to tolerate as an englishman now we come down to ethnicity again i'm actually half welsh half english i'm actually an eighth german but either way these lands are my lands and not their lands.
1:11:19Even if you're born here, your heritage is Pakistani. It's not an English heritage. When we talk about Linford Christie, he's got Jamaican heritage. Honorary Englishman, Frank Bruno, honorary Englishman. Daley Thompson, honorary Englishman, because the heritage would be African or they've got one parent that's English and one parent, you know what I mean? So they've always got somewhere, I look at it, somewhere else that they have an allegiance to. Kemi Bednock, she's born in Britain. She's British, but she's Nigerian. Her parents are Nigerian. So this is why she sees that she's got more allegiance with the Yoruba tribe than Britishness.
1:11:48That's what she said. She said that. So she's got somewhere to go. We haven't got anywhere to go. So when you talk about British politics, I don't even think it's like that. I think Islam has any place in the West full stop, irrespective of British politics. I don't want anywhere near British politics. If you go to UAE, you go to Qatar, go to Saudi Arabia, tell me how many Christians are in their government. How many Christians? There's none, zero, for a reason. Why? For a reason, because they're an Islamic country. The problem that we've got right now is that we're a Christian country and we've forgotten that we're a Christian country.
1:12:17It doesn't mean you've got to go to church. What it means is, and the reason we're not as much of a Christian country as we were, I think 46 % Christian, is because we flooded it with Islam. It's not just a case of people not going to church. You couldn't care less about church. You'd go to church if you want to. I'm a Catholic man. You know what I mean? Sometimes I go to mass, sometimes I don't go to mass. Fair enough, you put your hand up. People criticise me from that because there is a militancy on everything. There is a hierarchical of Catholicism. There's a hierarchy. You know what I mean?
1:12:40We know that, right and it gets quite deep as well you know start getting pope leo the 14th calling you up you know i mean right to my thing all right all right one of my private coaching clients whatever you know i mean but the truth is uh as we're talking about christian values now and then people go what are christian values well tolerance is a great one isn't it acceptance you know i mean uh forgiveness um you know faith and and togetherness and family and charity and all these things and uh it's very different to what i think the virtues of islam are and people will come there and go, no, Muslims are very community orientated.
1:13:11I don't think they are, because I think when you fail to call out the behaviours that damage your community to such an extent that the people of your host nation want you out, fundamentally there's something wrong. And I would even go so far as I see Muslim men that did that to the British women as inherently weak. I don't want them in the country. I don't want that level of weakness here. He's about himself and his own pleasures. I don't want him here. I'll throw him in the sea myself. It's a matter of time. That is coming. if that behaviour is consistent and that exists it's coming I saw you see in government as well you know you see Muslims going to government and that Muslims in government are about Muslims it comes first their faith will come first whereas our what we do in government is we look after the country first because that's what that's our country they look after their faith first they look after Muslims first and then anything that's left that's the problem that's the difficulty and that's why I wouldn't allow any Muslims into the British government I wouldn't allow it I mean I'll be the thing about it's like the military people go well would you allow Muslims I taught Muslims to fly airplanes is absolutely right.
1:14:05Yeah. And I trusted him. They trusted me. But they've made a sacrifice. They've shown they're willing to suffer. And going into flying training is about suffering. So they will suffer. You go into the military, you're going to suffer. You're going to suffer when you go in. You're going to suffer during it. And when you come out, you're going to suffer for the rest of your life with many different things. Many different things are going to be in your brain for the rest of your life. So yeah, I do. If I fly with Muslims in the military, absolutely, I trust them 100%. They've made that suffering.
1:14:28They've shown the dedication. But there's fewer Muslims in the military per capita than there are Jews. So Jews care more about defending in the United Kingdom than Muslims do. That is the truth. That's an absolute fact by a factor of five. So you tell me where are Muslims investing in this country? Because I don't see it. As a Christian man, I don't see it. I don't want anything to do with it. And I am a bit angry about it. You know, I am. Well, the thing is, a lot of people are. A lot of conversations, not only that I have, but I'm kind of my background security, so I'm listening and watching everything.
1:15:00So if I'm in a restaurant, although I'm talking to you, I'm listening to them. I hear these conversations everywhere I go, but there's just not many people that are willing to put their face to camera and say it with such gusto. How do we restore trust back into society, do you think? You mean trusting? We're just on a whole, because we live, like we said earlier, we live in a low-trust society. We're all very suspicious of each other. Yeah, I know, right. And power. How do we restore that trust so we can live in a less state of anxiety? So I was on a train. I sat opposite down the carriage from this dude listening to stuff on his phone.
1:15:35And there was a woman there and she had her kids and stuff. You know what I mean? It's not comfortable when someone's got playing. So I went and sat next to him, looked at his phone and said, what is it, mate? What are you watching? And he was all a bit, you know, so we've got to call out these behaviours, poor behaviours. And calling out poor behaviours is going to come with consequence. I mean, if you step at Tommy Robinson aggressively, you're going to get punched in the face or whatever. That's comes with consequence. So we have to develop a two thing. this isn't like I'm a bloody expert on how to rest us.
1:16:03You know, of course I'm not. But what I'm saying is we've got to look at our own behaviours. How are we representing ourselves to the world, right? Are we holding ourselves properly? Are we dressing smartly? Are we looking after our weight? Are we thinking about what we're doing with our relationships? And are we treating our, are we disciplining our kids properly, wherever it might be? You know what I mean? Are we a stand-up guy? Are we known in the community as a stand-up guy? Are we that dick that's got some coke habit on the side? You know what I mean? There's things we can do that we shouldn't be doing and we need to sort of address those a little bit.
1:16:31And the other one is calling out poor behaviours. And those poor behaviours are going to come with consequence. I think the biggest problem I've got is with politicians, senior police officers, policing in general, not police, but policing in general, with the Muslim rape gangs, they weren't called out. They were kind of hidden. The Labour councils hid them over because they didn't want to, you know, cause racial tensions, which is a massive distrust of the British population, as opposed to just saying, let's have a conversation about this. They didn't want to do that. so it's basically saying we don't trust the british people to not get really angry at what's happened now we're really angry of course um so i think we need to look at all that kind of stuff but i don't know how you can change i don't see politics isn't the answer um so no matter who you put in power so i think it comes from the individual i talk about you know fitness family finance faith and fuel i talk about these things in general i was all like okay it's all the f's but have a think about it what's fitness do for you it just gives you that foundation doesn't it it gives you that you do you do 100 burpees and tell me you're the same person before gives you the edge it fucking hurts but you've done something that morning there's something about isn't it it's like no one wants to do it but this is why prisoners get into fitness why because it keeps them you know doing something that you feel value in yourself and then you go through all the rest of them you know finance we've got to earn some money how are you going to do that you know what about fuel what you put into your body we put lots of rubbish into our body don't we you know what i mean so not just not just not just the food but what we're doing mentally you know you've got to be looking at some things that are quite wholesome you can't be you know watching stuff that's negative the whole time, which is a big problem in my channel sometimes, that people write to me.
1:17:59So I do motorcycle content now. I do aviation content a lot more now, as well as the politics. Give the guys a break. And just before I ask the final question, on the topic of your channel, because a lot of people are going to really enjoy listening to this that are new to you. Where can everybody find you? YouTube, X, what are your main platforms? So X now, I put Fast Jet Performance as my name. I'm a big fan of Standing By Your Name. And British men should be doing this right say englishman doesn't matter if you want to be a stand-up guy you want other men to respect you you've got to be under your name and i know people will say i'll get sacked for my job what fucking job are you doing mate where you can't speak the truth your own truth and actually still keep your job just don't speak like a twat you know i mean just be careful what you say but still speak and just do it under your own name all right um so fast jet performance i'm on twitter and it is fast jet performance now tim davies underscore uk i think And then on YouTube, Fast Jet Performance as well.
1:18:53We'll put a link to both of those platforms in the description. You know, if we talk to like-minded people, we're building a community and we're giving other people strength to speak out. We're moving the Overton window. And it's good. Like I said, people will find strength in you. Your struggles in the past, the alcoholism, there'll be so many people relating to that, like secret scoffers. Yeah, of course. So, yeah, I appreciate that. So the final question is this, and this isn't like poor men, but at the moment it's a tough old slog for men. Women have got muscles now. They seem to be the alpha in their relationship.
1:19:25We're still the one that has to go out, fight for the right to survive, pay the bills, lay the bricks, fend off the burglars, and we don't get a great deal of thanks for it. I'm fine with that, by the way, for the record. But what's the importance of having a strong, supportive wife to a man that's out there trying to make a difference? Monday on NBC. US Marshall! All new Line of Fire, the thrilling new crime drama. The world sees us as heroes, but they don't know what the job really costs. One family of federal agents. It's one thing to put yourself in danger. It's different when it's your family.
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1:20:37Only at Taco Bell. Yeah, I didn't think you were going to go with that question. I was going to be like, why do you need thanks for doing what you should be doing? But you came straight out of it. You said, I don't need thanks. Okay, all I say is sometimes people come up to me and they tap me on the shoulder in the street. and they say thank you for doing what you do. I'm sure you get that as well. So men appreciate acknowledgement from other men. That's not the same from women. I thank them for supporting me. Oh yeah, 100%. I say thank you. Well, I tell you the men that are doing the work in this country, the people that aren't chatting stuff on your podcast, they're the men that's going to work every day, working a really hard job they don't like, to bring money back into a family that's calling them a bloody far-right racist or whatever.
1:21:14You know what I mean? Those men are the men that are doing the work. Those men are suffering there in silence and they're doing the work. and I wish them all the best. I really do because I speak to a lot of them. So they come up to me sometimes and I say, no, thank you because you're the silent one. You're the one doing the, I'm the one shouting out rubbish and trying to get that word out but you're the ones doing that work without getting that praise. No one's coming and thanking you for going and working that crap job and doing long hours. No one's coming to thank them. So as for the support of the woman in the relationship is what you're saying.
1:21:42The importance of a good wife. Well, I've been with my wife since I was 19. She hasn't always been good. I haven't always been good to be fair. You know what I mean? But we're in that stage now, both 50. I've done how long I've been married now because I didn't marry straight out. You know what I mean? We've just been together since I was 19. But she's always been there, you know? And the thing about when you're in the military, you want an alpha woman because you go to war and they have to hold the fort and do all the finances. And when you leave the military, you want that beta woman back. And she don't change.
1:22:07She's the same bloody woman that she was in the military. And it's hard because you come to like that all the time. So I've learned to soften when I need to soften. She softens as well. I'm not very good with vulnerability. All right. I don't know why. it probably comes from father thing as well. So I don't, I'm not very good with affection, not very good with being touched like physically because my dad, he sort of forgot that he had three kids. He loved my little sister, but he forgot about the three above her, you know, he was a Marine, he didn't want that guy. So my wife, you know, the relationship that we have is a, I think it's a good relationship, but, you know, always constantly working.
1:22:40So, but she's, she's very, she's got her own business. She was very supporting when I was in the military for 20 years. Remember when you were in the military, you're both in the military. She doesn't get to decide where she lives and works. She has to go where you go. And then when you leave the military, the last thing you want to do to her is tell her where she's going to live. I asked the military and I was like, where are we going to live? You know, where do you want to go? And she decided and that's where we live now over near Cheltenham Summit because she liked, I don't know, fields and stuff, you know, which is great and we live there now.
1:23:09So I think I can think, okay, so I'd rather be alone than with a woman that was not supporting. You know what I mean? I think a lot of men, and I think a lot of men look at this now. And that's hard. Yeah. I think a lot of men have got, a lot of men, we chastise Gen Z, don't we, a lot for being insecure and crap or whatever. But actually a lot of these young men are like, I can waste time by chasing these women who don't really want me because they're girl bosses and they haven't really worked out what they want yet. Or I can hit the gym. Because what I've keep saying to people, look, just get yourself a job, get yourself a small car, try and get yourself onto the housing ladder if you can.
1:23:45And if you can't, you know what I mean, try and get into a relationship at some point. And then if we can get them into jobs, relationships, get them earning a bit of money, you know what I mean? That's the thing. I think we've got someone that's going to invest themselves in the country. And this doesn't matter whether they're an English Christian man or whether they're a Muslim man from Pakistan. It doesn't matter who they are. We'll get them investing in the country if we can get them into relationships and housing especially, which is so hard to get, and get them into jobs. So having a woman with that support in you, but maybe you've got to support her back.
1:24:12That's hard sometimes, especially with this feminism right now. and they're talking bollocks, a lot of them. That's a fact. My wife talks bollocks sometimes. I was telling you before I come on here, about her hitting 50. Whatever, she just challenged me on the random stuff. I'll say something and she'll go, that's not true. All right. I mean, sometimes it's stuff that I've taught for 20 years and she'll go, that's not true. I'll go, okay. And then she'll say, oh, you're doing that thing again where you're challenging me. Okay. So I remember I said, I wrote a few things down. I said, every time you've done this, there's no reason for the challenge at all, but you've just challenged me and you don't base anything in facts.
1:24:43And she looked at it and she went, ask your point actually. So you know they know and she knows and it's that transitional time for women isn't it? It's quite a difficult one for them at 50 I think. Yeah, I've got a feeling you'll be back so we can maybe start the next one with feminism. If you've enjoyed listening to Tim and you've enjoyed this entire conversation like I have, please do like and subscribe to the channel. It takes less than 30 seconds and it costs exactly zero and the bigger the platform the better the guest. And we can keep having conversations like this at the mainstream would just never ever platform in a million years.
1:25:15Tim, I've just spent the last week alone abroad, sitting in my own thoughts, working things out. I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed this conversation. I wish you nothing but the best. I'll be following your journey and good health, sir. Yeah, thanks, Liam. Appreciate it. Thank you, mate.
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