Schools Prepare For Terror Attack: Sarah White

2 Oct 2025 · 58 min · 19 chapters

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In short

Sarah White discusses protests in Epping, Essex against the Bell Hotel migrant accommodation, alleging threats to women and children, describing her arrest for draping a union flag on a council building, and arguing for detention/deportation and reduced funding for asylum/hotel support. She also claims UK counter-protesters and police responses are biased, and warns about “digital ID” and changes to immigration enforcement.

Guests

Sarah White (Reform UK candidate; activist and mother). Liam (host/interviewer).

Key claims

White says she was “brutally” arrested after refusing police orders to remove a flag; she alleges she was punched under the jaw and held 24 hours before release, and that she was previously added to a “far-right watch list” after criticizing a councillor. She claims Bell Hotel residents are predominantly men and that crimes include a guilty verdict for sexually assaulting a 14-year-old (12-month sentence). She argues schools faced potential danger from a man she says was seen near multiple schools and that lockdown procedures were inadequate. She claims Lola (a girl who choked) was left without funding for ongoing care after brain injury.

Notable examples

Lola’s case; a named defendant “Hadoush Kabatou”; a reported school incident at Wolverham Abbey with police involvement; references to “Sleeping Lions”/terror drills; mention of Channel 4 interview and Tommy Robinson’s stage.

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Introduction to Epping Protests

1:00 to 2:22

Discussion about the protests and issues surrounding Epping.

“They tried to force me down onto the ground.”

Sarah's Arrest and Its Implications

2:35 to 3:21

Sarah discusses her arrest during a protest and the events leading to it.

“I'm very interested and concerned to find out more about what's going on in Epping.”

Details of the Protest and Arrest

3:21 to 4:21

An in-depth look at the events of the protest where Sarah was arrested.

“So taking you back on that evening, I gave a speech 20 minutes, 30 minutes prior to getting arrested.”

Police Treatment and Experiences

4:21 to 6:06

Sarah shares her experiences with police treatment during and after her arrest.

“Because at the end of the day, we are a tax funded paid building.”

Impact of Political Climate on Activism

6:06 to 8:00

Discussion on the political climate's effect on public protests and activism.

“So bruises down your legs, punched you in the jaw, And then they've taken you to the station?”

Concerns About Being a Target

8:00 to 9:19

Sarah expresses her fears of becoming a target due to her activism.

“It's kind of like the blueprint for what to expect up and down the country.”

Reflections on Activism and Society

9:19 to 11:20

Sarah reflects on her motivations for activism and societal issues.

“arresting females for hanging flags over buildings.”

Activism and Personal Convictions

14:00 to 17:44

Sarah White discusses her motivations for activism and her views on current social issues.

“I mean, I've always been very outspoken.”

The Impact of Protests on Community Safety

17:44 to 21:48

Exploration of the dynamics between protests, counter-protests, and community safety.

“Could have been Christopher Hitchens, Winston Churchill, a very well-known intellect.”

Lola's Story and the Need for Change

21:48 to 26:00

Sarah shares Lola's tragic story to highlight the need for prioritizing children's welfare over undocumented migrants.

“but our own children are suffering and having funding stripped away from them at every single turn.”
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Justice and Crime in the Community

26:00 to 28:00

Discussion on crime related to migrants at the Bell Hotel and the perceived injustice in the legal system.

“So then they're left to turn to GoFundMe pages.”

Community Concerns Over Crime and Safety

28:00 to 31:22

Discussion about rising crime, specifically targeting women and children, and community responses.

“And for people in our community, like the far left, turn up and want to counter protest against that, you go, what, do you agree with that then?”

Government Policies and Their Impact

32:22 to 42:00

Exploration of government policies on immigration and community safety, alongside personal anecdotes.

“They're milking the teat of our generosity and it's all done by design.”

The Impact of Fear on Children

42:00 to 43:14

Discussion on the psychological effects of school threats and protests on children.

“What was going through their minds in their classrooms?”

Protests and Community Reactions

43:14 to 45:22

Insights into community protests against local threats and public responses to them.

“And so we'd done a flash protest that night outside Loughton Police Station.”

Political Accountability and Local Issues

45:22 to 47:17

Exploring the role of local politicians in community safety and their accountability.

“All of a sudden, there was a petition submitted to shut other hotels just on the back of that.”

The Role of Political Figures in Community Support

47:17 to 51:15

Discussion on the presence of political figures in local protests and their motivations.

“And isn't it funny how people in politics, they flip and flap and jump when it suits them.”

Vision for Change and Women's Leadership

51:15 to 55:58

A vision for political change led by women and the importance of community involvement.

“But local people are affected and you need to show support.”

Reflections on Family and Loss

56:00 to 1:00:02

Explore the emotional impact of family memories and loss, particularly focusing on the memory of a beloved grandmother.

“Is there any powerful women that you look up to and aspire to?”
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Transcript

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1:26We're giving them phones as they arrive, free square meals a day, balloon courses, lessons in karate. Our tax money is going on housing these men who are committing crimes in our community. These men need to be put into detention centres, processed and deported. He'll be persecuted in his own country. That's not our problem. Have you seen any women and children in these hotels? There isn't. It's just men. I love this country, but I love what it was. I don't love what it's becoming. If a strange foreign man walking into a child's school doesn't concern you, what does concern you?

2:22in the description, along with the 10 % discount code for you to take advantage of. Go and have a look at their website, see if there's anything in there for you. I hope you enjoy this week's episode and good health. Sarah. Liam. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. I'm very interested and concerned to find out more about what's going on in Epping. I met you there before when there was a protest outside the hotel. There was a march that led to a certain point because I believe you were restricted past a certain point in Epping. So I want to know what the hell is going on in Epping, but let's first talk about your arrest, which is really where you first sparked my attention.

3:00You were draping the union, Jack, over a council building. Yes. And there was three officers that arrested you. In my opinion, it looked excessive. Talk me through the build up, the reason why you've done it, how you got arrested, how you felt when you got arrested, what happened after the arrest, how they treated you. in the cells and whatever you can talk about. But let's start off with the arrest. So taking you back on that evening, I gave a speech 20 minutes, 30 minutes prior to getting arrested. And that speech was calling basically for everybody to stop paying the TV licence and potentially stop paying council tax.

3:44And then I did say at the end of that speech, we're now going to march down to the council offices and where we will then give another speech. And I said, please, could everybody stay on the left and let's march? And that's what we've done. We do the same week in, week out. And when I got to the council offices every week, the same thing happens. One of us puts a flag at the top of the stairs. I then done that. When I got up there, I was holding the flag over the, draping it over the top of the stairs. Everything was fine. Then I see one of the police officers come up and I thought, I'm going to get arrested here.

4:20He said to me, take the flag down. And I said, no. And he went, take it down. Are you going to get arrested? I said, I'm not breaking any laws. You're not allowed to arrest me. Because at the end of the day, we are a tax funded paid building. It is the council offices. And it's something we do every week. But I do believe that they was gunning for me. That night, the police officers were completely different. They wanted to make arrests. And so I stood my ground. I know I'm not breaking any laws. We do know that police abuse their powers. You only have to look at prior events that have gone on.

4:57And then he gave the signal and then three police officers come up and you see the videos. Then they did brutally arrest me. They tried to force me down onto the ground. I got punched under the jaw. I had bruising all down my legs, down my arms and on my back. And yeah, that was quite an experience. Yeah, it was quite an experience to watch. I mean, it's hard to tell when people are watching, but for the sake of the audience watching and listening, how tall are you and how much do you weigh? I'm 5 '4 and I'm just over eight stone. The reason for asking that is because there was three fully-sized individuals roughing you up to arrest you, which I think it would have required one person to have done it in a peaceful, calm fashion, just how a lot of the Epping protests have been.

5:50And for the sake of the audience, if they're not in tune with what's been going on in Epping, this has all erupted since crimes have been committed by migrants from the Bell Hotel, which we're going to get into. So you were punched in the jaw, which is horrendous, because I'm going to talk about the police later on down the line, what side they're on, because I've been to two protests in support and I've seen a few of the police officers' smiles, thumbs up, and I've seen a few with faces like thunder, as if the protesters were the enemy, not the criminals inside the hotel. So bruises down your legs, punched you in the jaw, And then they've taken you to the station?

6:35Yeah, so first of all, put me into the back of the meat wagon and was held there for a little while. And the superior officer looked in and said, you're to drive her down the road and de-arrest her. So they'd done that. They drove me down the road. We parked in a petrol station. They opened up the doors at the back, took my cuffs off, gave me a bottle of water, sat there for about 10 minutes. And then they went, really sorry, we've got to take you to the station. You are actually arrested. So two weeks prior, I'd given the local councillor some heated criticism. Now, if a councillor can't take heated criticism, maybe she shouldn't be doing her job.

7:13And was that online or in person? That was in person, in front of mainstream media. It was being filmed. And basically, the day after I'd done that, she actually released a statement about myself and Callum. And then the day after that, I was added to a far-right watch list. And her dad is best friends with the police commissioner. So obviously two weeks after all that happened, I then get arrested and so did Callum. Who's Callum? Callum's the other guy that got arrested the same night as me. So you criticise a councillor and you drape the union flag over a council building and on those grounds you're branded far right and put on a watch list.

7:52Yes. Welcome to the United Kingdom 2025. Yeah, it's quite worrying. Well, that is worrying. All this behaviour that's going on in Epping isn't just going to stay in Epping. No, of course not. It's kind of like the blueprint for what to expect up and down the country. And then when you got to the police station, what was your treatment like there? When I first got there, I mean, first of all, in the back of the van, the guy went to me, I've got to say, you're probably the nicest person I've ever had in the back of here. I don't know why you're here. And I went, no, neither do I, but welcome to Clown World.

8:23got to the station, received hostility initially. And I think once they then realised, actually, she's all right. She's a nice person. She's just a normal mother. She's not. And you've got other people being checked in who are swearing, blinding, kicking, punching. You know, there's two bipolars being checked in. And they then was all right. The treatment I received being there was, I can't complain about it. I shouldn't have been there, but I can't complain about the treatment I then received being in the station. They were very kind to me. They provided me with teas and food, and I did say to them, you don't need to keep checking on me.

9:05I am okay. I'll be out of here soon. And lo and behold, it was 24 hours later I got released. Ah, they kept you for 24 hours. I can only assume that that order come from the top, because the boots on the deck, I'm sure they don't want to be arresting females for hanging flags over buildings. No. It must come from the top. And you've got an idea who you've upset. So at least you can connect the dots. Of course you can. Single mothers who are law-abiding citizens don't get arrested. There's always a chain of events. So, you know, like you said, connect the dots and you see where it takes you. But in today's world, that shouldn't be happening.

9:43I shouldn't have been arrested. I should be able to criticise my local councillor for her failings in her job. I should be able to hang our national flag. That shouldn't be a crime. And at the end of the day, I'm being persecuted for doing them two things. And I believe they just wanted to send a message. And they wanted to send a message. Mothers, grandmothers, anyone, they wanted to send a message and say, if we can arrest her and if we can brutally attack her, we'll do the same to you. Because you've been charged, haven't you? And you're currently on bail. And my concern is, or I should ask you actually, is it your concern that we know that Keir Starmer changes the law as it suits.

10:26We saw this after Southport where he abused his power as did the law. Lawfare was used in a fashion like I've never seen, frightening times. Is there part of you that's worried that you could end up going to jail because of this? for them to set an example and put the fear of God into people doing similar things to you? Yeah, of course. It does worry me because I know I didn't commit a crime, but yet I've been detained in a police cell for 24 hours and I've been charged and I've got caught on the 15th of October. That's not the normal world. If we go back 20 years ago, this wouldn't have happened.

11:03But today with Keir Starmer in charge, I am looking at potential prison sentence, you know, And that is people keep sending that to me. You do know that you may be receiving 12 months imprisonment,£3 ,000 fine or community service. All of these things are unacceptable because I didn't commit a crime. And they're saying that the crime I committed was deferring from the route of a procession. That route was clearly set out by the police commissioner and it said to go from the Bell Hotel to the council offices, which are known as the Civic Centre. I was on the stairs of the civic centre. So, you know, how many people deferred from that march anyway to maybe stop off and get something to eat on the way or stop and get a drink?

11:50How many people at Tommy's March would have gone into a pub? There is a clear procession. Are you going to arrest everybody that deferred from that route? And I stayed on the route and that's the most ironic thing. I was on the route, didn't defer from it and I got arrested. However, if they send me to prison, I don't think it should deter anyone from going out and protesting. It certainly won't deter me. If I was to be sentenced, I will still keep on doing what I'm doing if once I'm released. And nothing should stop you from wanting to live in a safe and secure country. Is there a part of you that's scared that you're now a target?

12:27If I'm being completely honest, I try to not think about it and just get on with what I'm doing because there are so many people now that are targets. And I think you can't let it overtake your mind. You have to put it to the back of your mind because otherwise if I was to become scared, then I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing. And you just have to think, well, I'm protecting my kids. I don't let them come to any protests with me. I don't want them to be seen on any cameras. I don't want them to become a target. and you know that I got doxxed as well, which was totally unacceptable because whether you agree with what I've done or not, you shouldn't be put inciting violence at my very front door because the left are maniacs and we've seen that with what happened with Charlie Kirk.

13:16Yeah, they are maniacs and it's important for people that are in the middle or just finding their feet or just really exploring the political realm because they've been naive or just too busy to pay attention, which a lot of us are guilty of because we're all put in the rat race to be so busy that we're distracted from what's going on. And I think a lot of people think that the liberal left are nice and fluffy and they're the ones that are educated and they were the smart ones at school. They're the lunatics that hate themselves and hate us. And there's no real reasoning with them. They're the ones that will enable Islamists to rise, take over.

13:50But without putting the fear of God into you, when did your activism start? and why, more importantly, did you start being an activist? I think if you go back to Brexit, I think that's when I really, I mean, I've always been very outspoken. If there's anything that I find is unjust or someone being treated unfairly, I've always stuck up for people. I've got this, like, fire inside me that just ignites. And I basically, with the whole thing with Brexit, and you see that we won, like, but then the far left was throw their dummies out their pram. They hated what was going on. And it's like, we've been done wrong and everything.

14:29Can you go, hold on a minute. If it had been the other way round, we wouldn't have said a word. We would have just gone, oh, OK, that's the way the voting went. And but then it was given, obviously, to a government that didn't want Brexit to happen. So we've never really got what we wanted from Brexit. And then all throughout lockdown, I went on a lot of protests. I went for freedom of choice protests and I think probably from around that time. And then with what happened with Inepin, I just felt the need to come back out. And then we had protests again and stand up. And am I an activist or am I just wanting what's right in this country?

15:09Do I want to leave behind like a secure future for my children? And I think every mother should surely want that. every person who's got a child would want a safe and secure future for their children and for future generations you have to stand up for what's right the problem with the left they are all suffering with a mental illness they don't they don't really look at what's going on when you try to debate anything with them they get very angry they get cross they get nasty they hide under a blanket of peace they say that that's what they want but there's far, like couldn't be any further from the truth.

15:50And when you look at the left, the counter protesters that turn up, I don't see anyone from a multicultural background. No. I see middle class, spoiled children that haven't had a wash in a very long time. And they feel that they can just say what they want, when they want, and they get quite nasty with the things they were saying. One woman was calling a young girl a fat C-U-N-T, and I won't even say what else she said after it because it was disgusting. And I'm like, that little girl's 11. Why are you shouting and why do you feel that it's acceptable but apparently you fight for peace? And where is everyone?

16:34Why haven't they got people from multicultural backgrounds standing with them, but they're standing with us? Well, I've seen it firsthand. So Based and Bougie is a really, really good YouTuber, very effective, very intelligent, knows her history and her heritage. She's a black lady and she came to a migrant hotel protest and there was the opposition with their stand up to racism banners that they've all had made and given to them. and she approached them. This is a black lady, stems from the Congo, and said to them, can I ask what racism you're standing up to? They wouldn't even speak to her. She said, if you're standing up to racism, I need to know about it because I'll be standing with you.

17:22Of course. But they're not interested in standing up to racism. I think people on the right, they genuinely want change for the better, for the future, for other people. I think the left deep down want change within themselves because they hate themselves. And you can see that venom come out. And I don't know which mastermind powerhouse said it years ago. Could have been Christopher Hitchens, Winston Churchill, a very well-known intellect. He said that fascism will creep through the back door via anti-fascism. And that's what we're seeing now. And these anti-fascists, in my opinion, should be prescribed as a terrorist organisation because all they do is rain terror on community.

18:06They don't want the change for better. They don't want unity. They don't want peace or love. They enjoy the drama of hurting people with their words, stirring up hatred. And even the police, I believe, are now onto it that the people on the right are calling for peaceful gatherings and the left aren't interested in that. They want to antagonise and they want to prod the bear and poke. And I've seen that. And what are the numbers in Epping? Because let's move on to the Bell Hotel now. How many counter-protesters normally turn up? Because I've seen hundreds of protesters peaceful. You've got music.

18:41You've got women singing and dancing in the street. I mean, it's more like a festival than a protest. Yeah, it's really lovely to turn up there. And everyone's like-minded. And we're all like a happy bunch. We've got one goal. We want the hotel shut down. Counter-protesters have been there, I think, twice because the first time they come and it was absolute carnage. You know, the police brought them in and then ferried them out, which is totally unacceptable. Why would you bring any counter-protesters when we're protesting about stopping young girls getting sexually assaulted in our very own community?

19:16That is unacceptable and surely no one would want to counter-protest that. However, when they come along, Antifa was with them, and then all hell broke loose. You know, police were getting attacked, their police vans were getting kicked. It just was complete chaos. Then they was brought a second time, but this is when the police then put cages in place. But they brought them in such a route that it took them maybe two hours to walk to us. Now, that obviously deterred them, and they haven't been back since. So it just showed they turned up for their 45 minutes of what they're paid for by the hour and then they left.

19:56But when they're not there, everything's great. And I do believe that the police wasn't getting the response that they wanted from us because multiple times I've spoken to the police and the protesters and said, look, we need to keep peaceful. Don't start because it sets the wrong tone. We can peacefully protest and achieve exactly what we want. And everyone stuck by that. But then on the night when I got arrested, it was obviously, right, well, mainstream media are here and there was a lot of them. And then it was, right, we need to get views. We need to get front page pictures. I mean, you see the pictures of me.

20:33They're probably the worst pictures I've ever seen in my life. But it backfired for them. They're going to be iconic, those pictures. They are. They are very iconic. And with your permission, can we put it up on the screen? Everyone else has seen it. Okay. You know, the whole world has seen that picture. That's a hell of a picture. You mean business. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But isn't it funny that the mainstream media were all there that night and it was like, right, we need to get this. We need to arrest her. This is going to be headlines. But it backfired for them because look what happened.

21:06I then got to speak in front of two million people on Tommy's stage and share my message. And my message is that women and children need to be protected. They are, women are vulnerable, but children are the most vulnerable and the most precious. And surely no matter what side you're on, left or right, you have to all agree that children are the most precious and that they need protecting. And that's why I then spoke about Lola in my speech, the girl who tragically choked. And I'm trying to make people see that whether you agree with illegal migrants being in this country or not, Funding is being given to these undocumented men, hand over fist, but our own children are suffering and having funding stripped away from them at every single turn.

21:55So you can try and turn the left's opinion, hopefully, educate them because they're indoctrinated at school, the left. We all know that they're following what's being taught to them in school, in universities. They're brainwashed. So hopefully if they see someone speaking out who's being peaceful and fighting for children, maybe that might change their opinion. Can you elaborate on Lola getting choked? So Lola choked whilst eating dinner with her family. And unfortunately, she lost oxygen to her brain. Her parents are both first aid trained. They were resuscitating her for 20 minutes. and unfortunately she suffered irreversible brain injury and now she is in a wheelchair for the rest of her life.

22:49She's nonverbal. She needs to have constant care. They kept her in a hospital for a very long time. This happened two years ago. Her father and her mother both was very persistent with the doctors and saying she needs to have certain operations because she screamed for the first year, basically, in pain. Eventually, she was able to have this operation and instant calm. She wasn't screaming out anymore. But she's now been left, like, without any funding. She needs to have hydrotherapy twice a week. The government have said, no, we're taking that away. So now she's got other implications because of this.

23:36and you have to go, where is the justice for families like Lola? And since I spoke about Lola on Tommy's stage, I've had so many families get in touch with me saying, can you help? But I'm no one. I'm just a mum. I've got my own business. I'm not a politician, but these people are reaching out to me and saying, we feel that you're our last hope. And if I can do anything, that's what I'm going to do now. I'm going to help spread the word about the injustices that are being served to our own children in this country. So your message is, because I didn't know about Lola, and although I was there, I was behind you, so I couldn't hear your speech.

24:23So I think what you're saying is that our tax money needs to be going on our children that are sick and suffering, not on foreign men that we have no idea about? Is that the consensus of your message? Yeah, 100%. Because if you've got men... And I'm with you 100%. Yeah, and I think everyone would be. If I could sit down in a room of people from the left and you show the stories of these young children and they've got to see and go, you know what, actually, what are we doing? Because if you're allowing undocumented men coming into this country, so first of all, they've committed a crime and then they go on to commit more crimes once they're here.

25:06And I'm not saying all of them do. But if we're giving funding to them, if we're giving them phones as they arrive, if we're giving them free square meals a day, if we're giving them money to go out in the community and do whatever they want, If we're giving them money to go and do balloon courses and lessons in karate, I'm pretty sure Lola's mum and dad would love to have their food shopping paid for them. I'm pretty sure Lola's mum and dad would love to have a new phone when theirs breaks. I'm pretty sure Lola's sister would love to be able to do all the after school activities possible. but they can't because Lola's dad now, instead of being able to work 28 days out of 30 days every month, can now work four days if he's lucky.

25:48So how is he supposed to provide for his family? How is he supposed to care for his other daughter as well as Lola? You know, there's no funding for these people and it is stripped away. So then they're left to turn to GoFundMe pages. And Lola's mum said to me, I feel ashamed. I feel ashamed to ask for people to fund my daughter. I should be funding my daughter. Well, no, the government should be because our tax money is going on housing these men who are committing crimes in our community and they're making everybody in our community feel unsafe. I don't agree with it. Do you know what's heartbreaking is that as a patriot, it's to admit out loud that Great Britain is now a fouled society.

26:39And you speak about importing in criminals that we don't know what they've done. A lot of the time, that's why they're fleeing their country. They're not fleeing war. They're fleeing their own crimes so they don't get caught and persecuted in their own land. The Bell Hotel, it's a massive, massive topic. It's a huge bone of contemption within the town. Talk to me about the, and word it carefully so you don't get in trouble, the alleged crimes that have been committed from migrant men from the Bell Hotel and the confirmed crimes, because there's recently been a guilty verdict and a pathetic sentence, a 12-month sentence for sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

27:22It's like, who the hell do you think you are? You're a fucking guest in this country. You sexually assault our children and we smack you on the wrist. He'll be out in four months on tag. He'll be out in less than four months because we all know that if you get 12 months, you get six. And then he served two months already on remand. Is it two months already on remand? So that means that counts for four. So he'll be out in less than two months. He needs to be deported. Why are we even allowing him to be in our prison for two months? Madness. And that just shows how little the government think of our own children, because at the end of the day, she was a teenager.

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27:59Even if it was a woman, it's unacceptable. But it was a teenage girl. She was in school uniform. It's unacceptable. And for people in our community, like the far left, turn up and want to counter protest against that, you go, what, do you agree with that then? Are you encouraging that behaviour? Because I'm not. I don't want my daughter to be sexually assaulted in the high street. I don't want it to happen anywhere. But if it's in broad daylight and she's in school uniform, what on earth has the world come to? So, yes, obviously that crime, he was found guilty. So now do the left feel stupid for coming and counter-protesting against us, saying that he was innocent?

28:39Because he wasn't innocent. He's been found guilty. Other crimes, I mean, we got one of the guys arrested recently. Hadoush Kabatou. Yes. That's his name. Let's not forget that animal's name. That's an animal that we don't want in the country ever. Nor do we want our tax money going on housing him in hotels or prison. Get him gone. Yeah, that's it. Get him gone and get him gone with the rest of them. Why are these people? There was a guy recently who committed a crime, it was rape, and I believe he's from Iran. in his own country it is a totally deemed as being unacceptable crime you do not rape women and he would be persecuted for that crime so why did he think it was acceptable to do it here and now we can't deport him because he'll be persecuted in his own country that's not our problem if you commit murder and you know in your country you're going to get the death sentence well why do you think you can come here and commit murder and not be persecuted in any way It's unacceptable.

29:44We have to remove ourselves from the ECHR and then we need to get our brains in gear and deport everybody coming to this country. If they've come here illegally, don't allow them to walk in our community. These men need to be put into detention centres, processed and deported. And that's at the end of the day, the end of it, because recently I was interviewed by Channel 4 and it's funny that they didn't want to air anything that I said. it's because they were saying, you know, there's women and children in these hotels. And I said, well, have you seen any women and children in these hotels? It's alleged.

30:21There isn't. It's just men. I said, but please don't be so naive as to think that only men commit crimes because we have women in our own country that commit crimes. The problem you've got is a lot of these women that, say, maybe come in, which they don't because we know that they're not, but if there are illegal migrants and they are women, they usually use their children as a decoy. to commit crimes. And also another thing is I would question their integrity as a mother to put their children onto a rubber dinghy when they've come from a point of safety of France to then bring them across the channel.

30:58I wouldn't risk my child's life if you're at a point of safety. And that's what everyone needs to remember. They've crossed through so many countries to get here. Why would they then cross a channel when they've come from France? And at the end of the day, it's predominantly men. I think the proportion of women and children is probably less than 10%. FX's American Horror Story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment with the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan-favourite roles. Light your candles, draw your pentagrams and prepare for a supreme surprise. FX's American Horror Story 13 premieres September 24th on FX and Hulu.

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32:33It is purposely done. And we know that the reason it's purposely done is for them, people to feel unsafe in this country and in their local communities. And then, you know, lo and behold, something will come in and the government will say, well, we can do this to save you. All agree. And that's where I'm going to say they're going to bring in digital ID. And funny you say that because Keir Starmer is now going to make it law that there has to be a digital ID system, a card for every adult within the UK, I'm hoping that the petition gets to Parliament and that doesn't go through because that is the beginning of the end.

33:10That is communism. We've got the Navy to stop the boats. We don't need digital ID to do that. That's really, really bad. And those that think, well, we've already got our NI and we've got passports and we've got our phones, we're already tracked anyway, forget that. This is a whole new ballgame that will strip you of all of your freedoms. And do you want your private messages? being read? Do you want all your purchases being monitored? Do you want a score system that puts you in a good light or a bad light or you get punished or you get restricted on how many times you can leave the country a year?

33:44It's communism. I mean, that cannot happen. No, it can't happen. And people need to realise that the government do not want to protect us. They don't want to save us. So them saying bringing in digital ID will save us, it's the biggest load of crap. because at the end of the day, like you say, if we wanted to stop the boats, we don't even need the Navy. We just need to say don't go and pick them up from the 12-mile mark because that's what we do. We go out to the 12-mile mark and we pick them up. They're given to us by the French authorities. What on earth is going on? Stop all funding to France.

34:19Stop sending the boats out. Stop the RNLI going out and say we're not coming out to pick you up. See you later. And if you come to our shores, you'll be detained. and you'll be sent straight back. I don't care where they've come from. They haven't come from a war-torn country. It's unacceptable, and people need to realise they need to put people in our own community first and stop putting the wants and needs of illegal migrants over our own people. And speaking of putting migrants over our own people, talk to me about the guy that was recently arrested. Now, I know that there's four schools within walking distance of the Bell Hotel.

35:01I've been there. I've done my due diligence. And funny enough, which is ironic, the people that I spoke to said that you're normally the person that tells people up and down the line, the protest line, to keep it peaceful, to keep it polite, and you get arrested. But that's beside the point. I just thought I'd put that in there because I've heard it from other people. Sorry to interrupt you, but that's why it sparked outrage when I got arrested, because week in, week out, I'm forever jumping in between police officers and saying, you don't want the paperwork. Back off. You're being aggressive.

35:34You're picking on certain men. And I'm saying to the men, come on, let's keep it peaceful. And they all listen to me because I'm a little woman. No man wants to have a little woman telling him off. So they all go, all right, fine, we'll carry on. And that's how it goes. That's why it sparked such an outrage. When I got arrested, brutally arrested. So, yeah, sorry, carry on. No, well, I'm glad you put that in there. Little woman with a big bite. Yeah. But so recently there was a guy, there was an asylum seeker. Now, apparently he was homeless. We call him an asylum seeker for the benefit of the media because that's what they called him.

36:11So he was spotted lurking around multiple schools and they're not all in a line. he's got to go out of his way to go to these schools. Now, just so people think in stereo, schools are where innocent children go to learn. What is a foreign man doing going out of his way, visiting multiple schools the same day or within a couple of days? And when that was reported by people on X, Adam Brooks, for example, he's done a tremendous job down there. He doesn't get the praise he deserves. He's stuck the cause from day one, irrespective of a backlash. I've got nothing but respect for that man. And so have Epping, because I've been there and I've seen the love for Adam.

37:00So he got lambasted because he made this report, because he knew for a fact it was true. This foreign man is visiting these local schools. He got backlash. Then the guy got arrested because he then entered the school. So it's now concrete evidence. so you can take all your criticism back and give Adam an apology. But the press reported, so this foreign, this asylum seeker, walks into a school full of children and it's reported, and I read it with my own eyes, that the police were called due to the man's welfare. You was outside one of these schools. Talk to me about that. How did that affect the community?

37:41Because that blew my fucking mind. Yeah. So if we go to the day previous to me being outside the school in Wolverham Abbey, this guy had climbed the fence, two guys actually climbed the fence and was roaming around inside the school grounds. It was two pupils that raised the alarm. Now, police were called, both of them was escorted off of the premises. One of them was arrested. So we was all a little bit confused. Well, hold on, two men were there. Why was one detained or arrested? So when we went to Loughton Police Station that night and done a flash protest, we was told, oh, no, he wasn't arrested for being on school grounds because that's trespass.

38:23And basically that's down to the school to press charges, which they didn't. He was detained because he had broken his bowel conditions and basically that's why they detained him and released him within three hours and gave him new bowel conditions. So he wasn't arrested for being on the school grounds. So that made us all realise why the other guy wasn't arrested. We found that quite alarming because, you know, we've always been brought up, same as you would have, everyone in this country. If you see someone lingering around outside a school or on school grounds, it raises suspicion. The police didn't find that suspicious at all.

39:03And we found out that he'd been removed from another secondary school the day before. So all of these stories was all coming to light. Anyway, we said to the police officer that night, are you not concerned he might do this again and actually attack someone? And he said, I can't go into that. Lo and behold, I get a phone call 10 o 'clock the next morning. The same guy has been spotted outside the school in Wolverham Abbey. It's now a primary school. The helicopter was put up because he'd run away from the school and the head teacher was outside. Now, I went to that school and I was told that the school was on lockdown.

39:40All the school gates were shut. The head teacher was standing outside. No one was allowed to exit or enter the school and the children were inside their classrooms. The blinds had been pulled and there were reports that children had been told to get under their desks. there are mixed stories about that whether they was told to get under their desks or not i spoke to one young girl and she told me yes she was under a desk other people said they wasn't so it depends i think what classroom they was in well you you do know that there have been they don't call them terror drills they say sleeping lions to the children yes so they're training them they're programming them so when there is an attack like the beslam massacre google that if If you don't know about the Beslan massacre, they are programming kids that if there's an alarm raised, get under the desk and play dead.

40:33I know that's happening. It is happening. And all of our children, you can speak. If you haven't got children, speak to one of your friends who have and ask them. They do a drill and it's called Sleeping Lions. And in secondary schools, they're told, because I asked one of the boys on the protest and he said, we've been doing drills where we run into any classrooms nearby, shut the door and put desks in front of the doors. Why should our children be even contemplating these drills? Why should they even be being spoken about? But what alarmed me on that day when I went to that school, there wasn't one police officer.

41:13Yet there can be 500 police officers at Epping outside the Bell Hotel at a peaceful demonstration. yet when there's a risk to children's lives there's not a police officer in sight and I was standing there now I was there for quite a long time doing a live feed just letting people know what was going on there was loads of parents had turned up but my concern was even though as adults outside there was parents standing there and I haven't got children at school but as an adult I was looking and thinking well we know the kids are safe in there we all know they're safe because we know this man is nowhere to be seen.

41:51However, what was going through their minds? Because the older children would always remember and refer back to what happened last year with them poor young girls being brutally murdered. What was going through their minds in their classrooms? Because as far as they're aware, there's a man outside and potentially an imminent attack. So when you've got one of the boys inside the school calling his mum and saying, in police, can you come and get me? There's a man outside. What were they going through? He's put them through torture. And what is that going to do to them long term? Just this is even that.

42:28So I had a woman say to me outside. It's abuse. It is abuse. No matter what you do, it doesn't have to be physical abuse. It's mental abuse. And when we done a flash protest outside Loughton Police Station that night because we said, oh, lo and behold, he's done it again. Why is it just schools? Walvam Abbey School is nowhere near the Bell Hotel. Why was he covering so much ground? West Hatch had another man the same day that the staff escorted from their premises. Why are these schools not doing anything about it? Is it that they're worried that they're deemed racist? Again, racism doesn't come into it.

43:08It's protecting our children. And you have to put children first. That is it. And so we'd done a flash protest that night outside Loughton Police Station. And I had a woman come and verbally attack me in the bakery opposite. And she said, how dare you? You are frightening my children. I said, what, peacefully protesting? We're playing music. We're not even chanting. We're doing speeches. I said, did your children call you from the school today saying that they were scared and that was worried that somebody was going to attack them? I said, no, they didn't. I said, and your children don't look very scared to me, so I don't know what you're going on about.

43:48In fact, I think you're concerning them because you're having a go at me. You're swearing. You're ranting. You're the one who's causing an alarm, not me. And this is the problem. There's people, they are obviously the left again. And I hate saying left and right because there isn't such thing as left and right. You either have got right morals and want this country to be a safe place to live in or you're completely deranged. It's become good versus evil. Yeah. That's what it's become. I mean, if a strange foreign man walking into a child's school doesn't concern you, well, what does concern you?

44:26The community spirit I want to know about as well because I know the Royal Courts of Justice, they honoured the eviction of the migrants from the bell. I went there, I saw the glee, the celebration, the community spirit was upbeat. It was a victory. I mean, where they would go after that is another subject we can discuss in a minute. But then the courts of appeal overturned that ruling to say that the migrants can now stay within the Bell Hotel. So how did that affect the community? How did that make you feel? To be honest, I think when we got the victory, there was a lot of us that said, this isn't going to go the way that we all think it's going to go.

45:09We all knew that they was going to overturn it. You suspected it. Yeah, because basically, if they close down the Bell Hotel, then what does that do for all the other hotels up and down the country? All of a sudden, there was a petition submitted to shut other hotels just on the back of that. So they can't be seen to be evicting all these men. Where are they going to put them? But then for the Home Office to turn around and say that the wants and needs of these illegal migrants tip those of people in Epping is just outrageous. So people were on a high initially, but then when it got overturned, I don't think any of us were really shocked, to be honest.

45:58I think we all knew that that was going to happen. Hopefully it gets overturned again, you know, but will it? I doubt it very much. We're in a position now where you even predict bad news is coming your way. There was another time that I was at Epping and I actually interviewed Robert Jenrick. Unfortunately, there was a technical failure and we only got the last 15 seconds of a 10 minute interview. These things happen. But I interviewed him and I said to him, it's great that you're here. I haven't seen any other MP or political figurehead come to these protests. and I asked him, why do you feel compelled to do it now?

46:43Do you feel it's too little too late? Do you feel that you're complicit in part of this? Do you think the Tories are to blame for getting the ball rolling? We're in this mess because of the Tories, let's not forget that. But giving him some credit, he turned up, he made an appearance and he showed support. Other than Ben Habib, I've not seen anybody show public support in the way that they have, putting their cock on the block, should we say, and losing the political snobbery. What were your thoughts on Robert Jenrick turning up to Epping? It's better late than never. However, are you just jumping on the bandwagon because it's gained such momentum?

47:21I asked him that. Yeah. And isn't it funny how people in politics, they flip and flap and jump when it suits them. So if something's gaining a lot of publicity and it seems to be going a certain way, then they will be seen on that side. Is it what they really believe? I don't think it is. And I just think, where is he now? He hasn't turned up again. So was it just a publicity stunt? Was he just for, you know, clicks and likes? And I don't agree. I don't agree with anyone in politics because, yeah, apart from Ben Habib, who, like you said, he's been outspoken. Where is everybody else? Why aren't local councillors turning up to protests?

48:08Why aren't they showing support? I mean, but if you look at the local councillors in Epping, they couldn't even submit the paperwork to have the hotel closed down. That paperwork sat on their desks for 18 months because they don't care. They are earning off the back of this. I don't care what anyone says. They're lining their pockets one way or another. They don't really care about the local community, but they need to be held accountable because if it wasn't for the local councillors allowing these hotels to get their permits in the first place, young women and children wouldn't be sexually assaulted in our communities.

48:46The local councillors should care so much about their local area that they should want to have these hotels shut down. They shouldn't have allowed them in the first place. So if I was a councillor, I wouldn't be allowing anything that would be detriment to our local community. Yeah, I'd like to have seen Nigel Farage make an appearance. I'm actually looking, I'm looking for any reason to rekindle my love for him because he's done a few things that have upset me. And I'm open to suggestion and persuasion. If he does things that I think superb for the country, then I'll back him again. But I need to see him putting his face to things properly and seeing it right the way through to the end, especially after there was an actual conviction.

49:34I thought, I'd like to see Nigel there. And I think people of Epping would have liked to have seen Nigel there. And you've got a link with reform. Yeah, I'm a reform candidate, so I would potentially become a councillor in my local area and that would be Chigwell and Buckhurst Hill. I would have liked to have seen Nigel turn up as well because I think, like you said, especially once there was a guilty verdict, you know, it shows that you'll be on the right side, you know, and you're showing support for the local community and that really would, I mean, publicity-wise, it would gain a lot of traction for reform as well.

50:15If you're there showing support to local communities that have been wronged. How else can you not but show admiration for someone when they come down and show support? So, yeah, I would have liked to have seen him there too. Unfortunately, he hasn't turned up. Yeah, no. And I don't want to slam Farage and I don't want to divide the right. I'm just making, I think, a clear observation that I think it would have been well received if Nigel Farage had turned. Because Eppin is huge news. It's not like he doesn't know about it. Eppin is the epicentre. It just so happened that it happened in Epping, you know, and we have been the fuel that have ignited the fire up and down this country.

50:55It could have happened anywhere. Just so happened it happened in Epping. And I think it's gained such publicity, it would have done anyone a favour to turn up and show support. And like you say, I am a candidate of reform. I support reform. I like some of what they are promising. But local people are affected and you need to show support. And this is what I believe people in politics do. They'll show support when it suits them and they don't get involved. You've got to be involved at ground level. This is why reform gained such traction because it was grassroots led. There was a lot of people from grassroots like myself, like everybody else in our local area who joined the local party.

51:42We all know what we want on ground level. We all know what's going on in our local community. People in politics live in their ivory tower and they put out these rules and regulations on people and they haven't got a clue what's really going on in the real world. They don't really know what people feel like in local communities. It's all right sitting in Westminster. What's really going on in Westminster? Not a lot. It's just them pompusing about champagne socialists. They haven't got an idea of what's going on. Do you feel like you're getting the same amount of support from Reform Now as you did at the start of their launch?

52:20Have they reached out to you since your arrest? No. So I probably get less support now because they haven't reached out to me once. So is that because they are looking to potentially drop me? I hope not, because I joined for a reason. I joined because I wanted a change in this country. and let's face it, conservatives ruined the country and Labour have just come along and put the nail in the coffin. Reform at the moment are the answer to save us. Is there going to be anybody else that's going to come forward? Who knows? And it's unfortunate that they haven't reached out because I do believe, and I'm not blowing my own trumpet here, but I've gained a lot of traction and I've become big news.

53:05So why would you not reach out and support someone who is supporting your party and has been there from practically the beginning. Like I go out on a weekly basis into the local community. I don't go to protest because I'm a reform councillor. I go because I'm a concerned mother. And, you know, people love to say on social media, oh, isn't it funny you're only there because you're a reform? No, I'm there because I'm a concerned member of the community. You're there because you care. Yeah, because at the end of the day I'm not a councillor. and probably me winning in Chigwell I don't fit the demographics of Chigwell I'm a single mother of three children they want really probably a doctor or a head teacher you have to look where I would suit there are other areas I would suit better people would relate to me in other areas better Chigwell I probably don't suit the demographics so likelihood is I won't win there anyway well before you got up on stage and spoke to millions of people at the Unite the Kingdom rally, which is Tommy Robinson's love child.

54:11Did you consider the fact that reform would almost definitely drop you if you were seen associated with that festival? Yes. And you were still prepared to do it? I was still prepared to do it because at the end of the day, what is going on in this country is bigger than me and it's bigger than reform. And it's bigger than us. And it's bigger than all of us. and I believe me standing on that stage gave me a platform to be able to get a message out. And my message was for the protection of children, that women and children are the most vulnerable. They are the ones that need in protecting. And when women come out and speak and stand up, that's when you know there's a real problem.

54:53And I think if you can have a movement led by women, supported by men, I think that would be what would win in this country. That's what I was going to ask you. What's the solution to this? The solution to this is having someone who really actually cares about this country and puts the people in it as a priority. Because I think me and you could sort this country out within a couple of weeks. I don't think it would take long. You're damn right. Damn right. But unfortunately, we've got idiots in power that all they care about is lying in their pockets. I don't care about money. And people can think, yeah, she's talking out of her ass.

55:31I really don't care. I care about my children's future. I care about this country. I love this country, but I love what it was. I don't love what it's becoming. And I'm passionate about this country. So I would be willing to risk and lose everything I've got to know that I'm leaving a better future for my children and future generations. And that's why when I stood out on Tommy's stage, I didn't care what reform thought. Is there any powerful women that you look up to and aspire to? Any female heroes? My nan. That's a beautiful answer. Same as me. My nan. That's the same as me. Fucking hell, you're going to make me cry.

56:15You're going to make me cry. Fucking hell. Yeah. He was the most powerful, strongest woman ever. I was not expecting that answer. Fucking hell. Mother of nine children, faced many adversities. Not only did she have nine kids, she always took in all the waifs and strays. She was from Stepney, born and raised. raised all her kids in the East End, lived through the Blitz and always, always had a kind word and never got the ump with anyone. I apologise about this. I'll set you off. Yeah, you set me off. My nan was the love of my life and she's been gone 15 years and I don't accept a fucking day of it, so I did not expect that answer.

57:09But we'll keep this in because it's organic. My nan lived with me for the last five years of her life. Yeah. I'm like, my house is like Oxford Circus. I take in anyone that needs somewhere to live. Fucking you have absolutely killed me with that. Oh, I miss my nan. I miss mine too. Yeah, they're great, aren't they? They're best. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. No, sorry. Fucking hell, weren't expecting this at all.

57:41Final question. Yes. Otherwise, this is just going to be a cry fest. Now I've got my nanomob in my brain and you. And sorry for upsetting you with that question as well. But I think if we, sometimes when it hurts so much, it feels like they're with us again. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. So compose yourself with a final question. It's a big one. And I apologise for this meltdown audience. I think it's the first ever really, really hit something. Powerful there. I'm going to put all of Sarah's social media links in our description so you'll know exactly where to find her, follow her journey and her progression.

58:24Like and subscribe to the channel so we can keep having these conversations that the mainstream wants suppressed. Stay with me while I ask Sarah the final question, which is deep layered and important, but who is Sarah White? I'm just a normal girl. I'm just, or a woman. I feel weird when I say I'm a woman. I still think of myself as a little girl. I've got three children. I'm kind, caring, compassionate, patriotic. And I just want the best for everyone. And that sounds a bit cliche, but I hope that I'm like my nan in some ways and I'm always there to support people and stand up for when someone needs standing up for I'll be that person I'll be the strong voice that so many people need because some people are scared or they don't know how to go about something and I've got a passion inside me that ignites and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go out without a bang Well I wish you all the luck in the world And here's to a brighter future Safer children And to our nans And thank you for bringing her memory back Like a lightning bolt Because that was quite something I wish you nothing but the best Thanks Liam Thank you Sarah Sorry I made you cry That's fine Good elf Good tears Yes

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