Sikh CHALLENGED Over Carrying Weapon: Should UK Ban The Kirpan?

18 Jun 2026 · 1 h 1 min · 21 chapters

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In short

Debate over whether the UK should ban the Sikh kirpan (ceremonial dagger) after the murder of Henry Novak, plus broader discussion of community tensions and the host’s anti-predator sting work.

Guests

Gurumit (Liam’s guest), a clean-shaven Sikh who says he speaks only for himself. He claims involvement with Sikh community online work and “predator hunting”/sting operations. He also describes his father’s past conviction for sexual abuse and his own investigative-journalism activities. No other guest is clearly identified by name in the transcript.

Key claims

The kirpan is a faith requirement among the “five Ks,” historically meant to fight oppression; the kirpan was not the weapon used in Henry Novak’s killing (he claims it was a different dagger, a “peshtag”). He argues the Sikh community has denounced Vikram Digba and that police mishandled Novak’s arrest. He claims police often ignore crimes involving Muslims, and he contrasts this with Sikh denouncement.

Notable examples

Henry Novak’s death and police treatment; Vikram Digba allegedly using a “peshtag”; “Kira’s Justice” documentary about Harry Shunker; stings involving alleged sex offenders in gyms and online decoy operations; a claim that a Sikh “freshie” on a work visa was targeted and threatened with deportation after harassing a decoy.

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Chapters

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Community Tensions After Murder

0:58 to 2:08

Discussion about the murder of Henry Novak and the resulting tensions in the Sikh community.

“If you can't play by the rules here, fuck off, that's where you come from.”

The Kirpan: A Symbol of Protection

2:08 to 4:28

Exploration of the Kirpan's significance in Sikh faith amidst calls for its ban.

“So straight in, very horrible, nasty subject, the murder of Henry Novak.”

Historical Context of Sikhism

4:28 to 8:34

Overview of Sikhism's history, the five Ks, and the cultural significance of the Kirpan.

“So I think it's just important that seats carry that kurban to protect themselves and to protect others.”

Debate on Religious Equality

8:34 to 11:41

Discussion on the implications of allowing Sikhs to carry the Kirpan while ensuring equality among all religious groups.

“And like I said, I'm not an expert in Sikhism.”

Responses to Community Violence

11:41 to 14:00

Reflections on community accountability and the denouncement of violent acts by members of the Sikh community.

“Probably important that I put my two-pence worth in.”

Denouncing Violence in the Sikh Community

14:00 to 15:28

Discussion on the Sikh community's response to violence and crimes.

“So the Sikh governing body of the world have denounced this individual and his family through his crimes that he committed against Henry Nova.”

The Impact of Crime on Sikh Identity

15:30 to 16:00

Exploration of how incidents affect the perception of Sikh identity versus Islam.

“May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.”

Community Accountability and Responsibility

16:30 to 20:08

Discussion on the importance of communities policing their own members.

“They've been ostracized, they've been denounced, even by the highest level, the Akkad, you know, what more can we do?”

Perceptions of Christianity in Sikhism

20:09 to 21:48

Insights into Sikh perspectives on Christianity and coexistence in the UK.

“taking you step by step through building your own business with no experience needed.”

Grooming Gangs and Community Awareness

21:49 to 23:52

Discussion on grooming gangs targeting Sikh girls and community response.

“And that's what we have done for centuries.”
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The Fight Against Predators

23:53 to 28:00

Insights into personal experiences of hunting sexual predators.

“We're going to move on to your predator hunting work.”

Kira's Justice: A Personal Journey

28:00 to 29:21

Learn about Kira's struggles and the efforts taken to help her find justice.

“And I thought to myself, but they kept messaging, and I thought, well, let me go and have a chat with them.”

Investigative Journalism: Uncovering Predators

29:21 to 31:18

Discover the challenges faced by investigative journalists targeting sex offenders.

“He's actually had me done for harassment.”

Decoys: A Critical Tool in Stings

31:18 to 32:28

Understand the role of decoys in capturing predators online.

“So there's been numerous documentaries that we've made.”

The Role of Community: Sikh Army's Involvement

32:28 to 37:18

Explore how the Sikh Army collaborates to combat sexual predators in the community.

“But just so the audience know that don't know what a decoy is, just explain what a decoy is.”

Confronting Criminals: Personal Experiences

37:18 to 42:00

Hear firsthand accounts of confronting dangerous individuals and the emotional toll it takes.

“It's all community-based around the good virus and stuff like that.”

Reflection on Past and Justice System

42:00 to 51:08

The guest shares his experiences with the justice system and prison life, including struggles and reflections on personal growth.

“to try and calm the tensions, keep everyone together.”

Concerns for the Future of Society

51:08 to 56:00

Discussion on societal changes, concerns about the justice system, and the potential influence of political movements.

“I had a little bit of a moment during my Preds Hunter journey about a year or so ago, after I did the first couple of two, three documentaries, a lot was happening on top.”

People's Voices Over Politicians

56:00 to 57:12

Discussion on the role of everyday people versus politicians in addressing national issues.

“and myself to put these people on the right together.”

Critique of Current Political Climate

57:44 to 1:02:39

Critical views on weak politicians and the impact of certain ideologies on society.

“Nigel Farage, in a way, but I don't trust him.”

Unrest and Community Response

1:02:39 to 1:04:26

Exploration of community reactions to violence and immigration issues in the UK.

“They're never going to be a bloody scientist.”
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0:00And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The certified fresh series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act? Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There is a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.

0:35Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on PLUS and ProPlans.

1:27what we have done. If you can't play by the rules here, fuck off, that's where you come from. Being on the run is not a cool, sexy thing to do. It's the worst thing I've ever done in my life. I told them, don't move me onto that wing, because I know it's highly populated with Muslims. Within two days, I was attacked. Assassination attempt on me. The Muslims have put£21 ,000 together to try and have me murdered. People get more prison time right now for comments on Facebook than what they do for raping children. This individual went into a gym in Nottingham, sexually assaulted six girls in one night.

1:51Three or four he got found guilty of. I put some questions to him, and I get arrested for harassment. He got a suspended sentence. I'd have them all swinging from a tree, including my own father.

2:05Gurumit, thanks for coming on. Liam, it's a pleasure, my friend. Thank you very much for having me. So straight in, very horrible, nasty subject, the murder of Henry Novak. Since that took place, everyone's seen it with their own eyes, what went down. But there's been a lot of community tension amongst different communities. the Sikh community versus others in particular. Being a Sikh man, what's really going on within the community? I don't believe in any sort of particular reason that our community is feeling scared. Our race isn't meant to feel scared, especially in these sort of troublesome times.

2:42And I also have to state, Liam, you know, I speak on behalf of myself, not my Sikh community. As you know, I'm a clean-shaven Sikh. I'm not a number of 30 Sikh, baptised Sikh, like you've had a good colleague of mine, Mohan Singh on here before. So it's hard for me to speak. I can't speak on behalf of the whole community or the religion, but I can speak on my behalf. Since the killing of Henry Nowak, which was, you know, it's one of the most disgusting, heinous murders that I've seen on the streets of this country. It wasn't just the fact that shocked me that it was someone from my own community, because individuals from each community commit these heinous crimes.

3:15It was in the circumstances of how he died, how the police officers arrested him, turned him on his side, when he told him he couldn't breathe multiple times, they still let him just bleed out. And they were like, you know, when he said that he had been stabbed, they were just like, you know, I don't think you have some. And I think it's because of the shock of the police treatment which has brought this sort of topic up to number one discussion points at the moment. There has been tensions, you know. And, you know, I know you're going to ask a question about this, but, you know, there's been a lot of talk about banning the Krapam, which is, you know, it's more than a ceremonial dagger.

3:49it's a part of a Sikh man's faith. If you're a religious Sikh, you wear the five Ks and the Kurban is one of them. It was given to the Sikhs by the Gurus to fight against injustice, to fight against the oppressors. In them days, it was the Islamists that were going around murdering, killing and graping people from all sorts of factions, all factions of society in that part of Asia. So it was a tool of protection. Now, some people could actually state that, well, they were in them days, but I'd actually say that we're living in just as terrible times. You know what I mean? We're still having these attacks from the Islamist community on our communities and other communities as we've seen over and over again.

4:28So I think it's just important that seats carry that kurban to protect themselves and to protect others. But I know, like I said, I know you were going to ask about this and a lot of people, there has been a bit of misinformation about the weapon that Vikram Digba actually used. That disgusting individual, you know, the police said it was a kurban, The judge said it was a kurban. It wasn't a kurban. He was a baptised Sikh. He comes from a sector of Sikhism that have some sort of obsession with weapons. You know what I mean? A little bit too much. As we've seen from recent police reports, the Sikh community have actually gone to the police.

5:03They've approached him numerous times due to Mr. Digber's behaviour in the past. He's stolen weapons from good virus. He's been obsessed with weapons for a hell of a long time. A bit too much of an obsession. It's one thing to have an interest in weapons, but what I believe is a dangerous obsession that that little boy had. And obviously that obsession led to him stabbing to death that poor lad on the streets of Southampton. But the actual weapon that was used at the time was actually called a peshtag, which is a Persian stabbing dagger. It was used in the Persian days to pierce armour. It looks like a zombie blade.

5:37It's massive. It wasn't a kurban at all. So that's one bit of misinformation that's out there why I believe that people are jumping on the bandwagon to criticise the kurban and Sikhs wearing the kurban so much. But what I'd also say is if you have a look at the history with Sikhs and the kurban in this country, there's never been one incidence of that kurban being used in violence. It's never happened. You know, more people have been killed from being hit or assaulted with a stiletto. More people die from circumcisions. A kurban has never been used in the hundred or so years the Sikhs have been here.

6:07And because I believe that the media and the judge have brought the kurban at the front of this argument, I believe they've tried to use that to try and scapegoat the police's actions on that day, to try and move the blame over to the Sikhs and take it away from the police officers for their heinous behaviour when it comes to the arrest of Mr Henry Novak. I don't think many people were probably aware that Sikhs were allowed to carry a ceremonial dagger. So before we get into the weeds of that, you mentioned the 5Ks. So what are the 5Ks and what justifies Sikhs to carry a dagger? The five Ks are the five symbols of a Sikh when they become a baptized Sikh.

6:46I wear the Qara, which is a steel bracelet to remind you that you're a Sikh. You keep it on your right hand. It reminds you daily. On my long journey down here, you know, I always drive one arm up. It reminds me of a Sikh. I get into meditation. I start meditating, you know, just remember to go back to God a little bit. Another one's a Kanga, which they keep in the hair to comb the hair with. The other one's a Kirsh, which is a turban. Another one's a Kishera, which is like a sort of large, oversized boxer shorts. And then the final one is a Qarabana as well. and the reason for that being is the gurus gave the kurban to the Sikh people to stop them from being attacked and being raped and being pillaged by the oppressors at the time who were the Mughal Muslim empire and that's the reason the Sikhs carry the five Ks it's more than a ceremonial dagger it's just it's more it's more than it's more than just an item on them it's a part of their faith it's a part of who they are now like I said the Sikhs and this has never been an issue but in this country at all the kurban has never been used in this sort of manner to murder somebody violently on the streets of this country.

7:42It's never been used. And I believe that the politicians and the judge and a lot of internet mouthpieces have brought it to the front line and they're talking about the kurban. But then I'd also say to these individuals, why weren't you campaigning against a kurban a couple of years ago? Why weren't you doing it 10 years ago? Why is it just now? You know, the kurban was not used in that murder. It was a different dagger. And I believe the sort of individuals that were bringing it to the front line and talking about the kurban a couple of weeks ago, you know, they stopped talking about it now. So it's like, what's fashionable at the day, what's getting views, what's getting hits, that's what people talk about.

8:13But you know, but in some ways, I do understand the justification of people having that debate about why Sikhs can wear and can buy and why they can't. I can't understand that. People want equality. One rule for you, one rule for another. I understand that. But when the Sikhs came to this land, it was on conditions and the conditions was that they could wear the 5Ks. So the double standards you can get where people are coming from. And what country does Sikhism originate from? Punjab, the first guru, Guru Nanak. And like I said, I'm not an expert in Sikhism. I'm not an expert in no faith. I'm still learning myself.

8:44I'm still finding my way to my guru. I can't speak on behalf of my community or my religion, but I do speak on my soul. The Sikhism was founded in Punjab by Guru Nanak, whose parents were Hindus. And then he was enlightened and he brought about the Sikh faith at a different time, at a time when I think they needed a new faith. And that expanded. We had multiple gurus along the line. you know we were the we were the people that brought down the mogul muslim empire to save worldwide religions from islam so you know we've had we've had some pivotal points in history and you know following that you know there's been a lot of uh reference to sikhs being involved in the armies fighting side by side with the british we all know about that you know so there's a long history they one of my favorite historical topics is anglo-sikh history absolutely love it you know a lot of people don't know but our last raj maraj of the leap singh was brought over by queen Victoria to England, she gifted him a manor house in Norfolk called Elverdon Hall in Thetford.

9:38You know, the whole palace was built from there and everything. Even if you go to the inside of it, it looks like the inside of an Indian palace in India. And, you know, Queen Victoria used to class his children as her grandchildren. He was best friends with her son, who later became king. So there's a very close alignment between Sikh and the British people. It's been there for a long time. I'm very proud of that. Yeah, there's some aware of it. See, the whole Kapan thing, I didn't know. So you're saying that there's an agreement or a contract or it's set in stone or written in paper that the agreement, if you were to come over to the UK, it was you can wear that ceremonial dagger.

10:15And that is concrete. I've never heard of that. Yeah, I believe under religious laws, the Sikhs are allowed to wear the, for freedom of religion, the Sikhs are allowed to wear the God of Barm. That's what I believe. But British law, I say we, This isn't a you and me, us and them conversation, but you know what I mean? I understand. You can see why the English are upset. I mean, it should be, if Sikhs are allowed to carry a knife, which is what it is, then English Christians or non-Christians or whatever, they should be able to wear a knife on their side. To protect them against injustice, and I believe in that, yeah.

10:51Yeah. Could you not reduce the size of it as a symbol and make it a blunt object? so it's more like an item of jewellery. To be honest with you, my grandmother's a religious Sikh so I grew up seeing the kurban on a daily basis. It's always been a blunt item. It's always been a small curved item with no blade and very blunt at the end. That's how they've always had it. So I don't know of anybody that actually goes out carrying some sort of kurban that has like Damascus blade qualities to it. I've never heard of that. And like I said, in this instance with the murder of Henry Novak, it wasn't a kurban he was used.

11:26it was a peshtag, a Persian armour-stabbing dagger, some kind of zombie blade from God knows what century. But from every incident I've seen with the swords, the kurpans in the gurdwara and people wearing them in person, they are blunt and they're not sharpened. That's from what I've seen. Probably important that I put my two-pence worth in. For me, I don't think one group should be allowed to carry that weapon because of their religious beliefs, particularly as it's not the native religion also. but if one is allowed to have it, then the other should. I respect that. I completely agree. It's either all or nothing, and I don't think religions that are predominant religion should have preferential treatment across the board, no matter what the religion is.

12:12Do you think that the murder was religiously aggravated, racially aggravated, or neither? I don't know, because I've not been given no evidence of it. The fact I see is whether it's racially aggravated or he called his mother or he insulted him, it's no reason to kill a person in cold blood. So whatever the argument was, I don't really care. There was no reason for that boy to die that day and that boy to be stabbed that day and there was no reason for Henry Novak to be arrested and to be left in cold blood like the police did. So regardless of whatever reason it was for, there was no reason for that stabbing.

12:43No, may he rest in peace. That's the most shocking bit of footage I've ever seen. That picture haunts me a little bit. Me and my mum were looking at it on our phone the other day when you've got Henry on his back tied up and his hands are just so pale, the blood's just gone from him. They must have told, you've got multiple police officers there at the time, you know, these people are trained in first aid and casualties and victims of assaults and crimes and stabbings and shootings. They're supposed to be first aiders, and they couldn't even tell that that boy was dying in front of them when he told them multiple times as well.

13:11He couldn't breathe. Shocking. And have you felt like that your community's come under attack? Yeah, 100 % our community's come under attack, you know what I mean? But it's not our community's fault. Our community is one community. I've never seen any other community do this. But the minute that murder happened, you know, completely denounced Vikram Digba, completely denounced his family. I know his family, some people have said, well, his family's sticking up for him and my mother's going to do that. It's not like he nicked a four-pack of beer from the shop or something like that. He just murdered somebody in cold blood.

13:37You don't protect, if that was me, my mum would drag me to the police station. You don't do that. In our community, it's not just because you're a Sikh, you get away with it. Our community believes in what's right and what's wrong. And he was wrong, so he's been denounced over and over again. His denouncement has gone to the highest levels. The Akar Takah, which is the Sikh governing body of the world, which is based in Punjab, have even written a statement about it, denouncing Bikram and his actions and his family's actions. So the Sikh governing body of the world have denounced this individual and his family through his crimes that he committed against Henry Nova.

14:08What more can we do? Well, here's an observation for me as well. I've, I mean, there was nothing to prove it was religiously aggravated at all. He didn't shout out his God's name as he'd done it, to my knowledge. And it's the first kind of murder of its type that I can remember. There may well have been previous incidents that are similar, but to my knowledge, that's the first time we've had something like this that's been kind of steered towards it being religiously aggravated. But that aside, other communities that commit atrocities, I don't hear spokespeople from them denouncing the crime. I think we know what religion I'm referring to.

14:53I know what religion you're referring to. It's the one where a murder takes place and Allah Akbar is shouted out. I don't see anybody standing up from that community ever or rarely, to give them the benefit of the doubt, and denounce that behaviour and say, you don't speak for me or for Islam. So it was very different to see a Sikh man commit a crime like he did. the fucking animal. But then I've seen so many from your community denounce him, speak up, he doesn't speak for us, turn up to pay their respects, want to contact the family direct. So there's a big difference in mindset. There's a big difference.

15:28Between Sikhism and Islam. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's draw something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act? Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to live. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.

16:05Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. There's a massive difference. And I think people do realize that. And I think people, after the dust has settled a little bit, people are realizing that their own people are actually taking this in their hand, you know, and the point of the worst punishments on this family that are possible that we can do.

16:42They've been ostracized, they've been denounced, even by the highest level, the Akkad, you know, what more can we do? I think our people do have to have conversations with children in their homes. I mean, Vikram Digra was reported to the police multiple times by the community, by the Sikh community. He was thrown out of Sikh Godwars. Why didn't the police do something about that? I think at home, our people need to be wary about who is carrying the good arm, what their mental state is, and maybe in the future take more action if they personally believe that an individual is capable of committing these sort of heathenous crimes.

17:16What's your place of worship called? The Gudvada. So that's the equivalent to a church or a mosque, depending on... Yeah, 100%. Yeah, the Gudvada. You know what I mean? They've been crying out against Vikram and Digvar for a while now, and the police did nothing. And they'll think it's down to police appeasing him because he's a minority. You know? I mean, like we just saw on the murder. You know, they completely didn't do anything about Vikram. and then handcuffed Novak all because he said that there was a racist attack. Whatever altercation happened beforehand, it did not condone a murder. You know what I mean?

17:46Nothing condones a murder in this country, not at all. And what I've noticed about you is, I'm looking online, I've seen that you've been very outspoken and that you call out your own. If we talk about communities, I've seen you call out your own and recently as well, one or two in particular, which we can touch base on down the line, no problem at all. But I respect that massively because I've always said, I've put my own father in jail. I beat that drum all the time. So I'm all about, if you call out your own community, you can never be accused of bias. We should call out everybody. But I think because now there's so many different communities and so much divide, we should start calling out our own and police our own.

18:24So why do you think it's important to police your own? You know, when you said a minute ago that you believe there should be equality across the board, if you can have that, that can have that. I treat everybody like that as well. so the way I am naturally is just because you're a Sikh you know it doesn't give you authority over me more than it does a Christian you know my respect towards an individual is based on that one person whether it be a Sikh Christian you know obviously I'm going to be closer with my cousin or my brother or my father because they're close to me but if if I don't know free Sikh people from the Sikh community and I don't know free English people from this from from the from the Christian community I'm not going to favor one over the other just because religion and race I'm just I'm just not that guy.

19:01And I believe my religion kind of tells me to do that sort of thing as well anyway. So when the religion is brought into question, the only people that can defend the religion and call out the individual who's brought the disrebuy into the religion is the people of that religion. You know, it's impossible for each house to go around cleaning everybody's house, but it's quite easy and manageable to clean your own houses. The Christians have a network of churches in this country. You know, the Sikhs have a network of Gurdwara throughout this country. Muslims have a network of mosques throughout this country.

19:29You know what I mean? throughout a lot of Europe, as we've seen. It's very simple for them to call it out, but they don't do. As recent as last week, we saw a huge grooming gang come out of Bradford. I've never seen any condemnation about them. I've never seen anybody from the Islamic community stand up and say, this is not us. I've seen nothing. I've seen complete silence. I actually made a video about it. When it came to Vikram Digba, this is an individual that doesn't represent his community and his actions don't represent our religion, but he was called out. But I believe when it comes to the grooming gang, they were crimes and actions that do represent the community and legitimate in the religion and they don't call it out.

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20:31You get one-on-one training, online courses and group seminars, so you're never left on your own. If you're serious about building something new for yourself, message Ryan on Instagram at RyanJB. How do Sikhs perceive Christianity in the UK? Do they think that Sikhism is the superior religion or do they respect the fact that the host nation, their religion is you have to is at the top of the sphere in my personal opinion okay well it's not my personal opinion i know it's my people's opinion we live in a christian country so christianity rules supreme that's a fact of it but in my personal opinion okay um my people come from a land where they've been turned over by what they thought was their own people whether it be even seats themselves or by hindus whether we raped and pillaged by muslims for decades and decades i saw what i personally believe is that britain gave a platform for seats to be able to flourish you know per capita with the highest earners per capita with the highest taxpayers per capita with the highest property owners we never had that in india well we did a long time ago in the days of the raj but once all that you know was taken over then we never had any of that before but the west has definitely given seat people a place to flourish we are not islam we don't come here to say we want to control we want to take over we want to live side by side with our Christian brothers.

21:49And that's what we have done for centuries. And I believe anybody can see from our history what sort of example that is. You've also had your fair share of victims amongst the grooming gang, rape victims as well, which I think can get overlooked sometimes because it's obviously predominantly young white Christian girls, but also like a lot of young Sikh girls have been targets, haven't they? Yeah, because before you had the epidemic of the English girls being raped and groomed and pillaged by Pakistani men, mainly majority in the north of this country, they were actually grooming a different target a bit different sector women in this country and that was the seat girls and that was happening from out the 70s to the 80s to the early 90s if my mind serves me right i was only born in 82 so i'm going off what i've been i've been taught from in our good virus in our communities it's been happening to seat girls for a hell of a long time and then he had organizations that shared up a job that literally took it into their own hands because the police refused to help because it seems that whenever a muslim is committing a crime, whenever Islam's involved, the police kind of turn a blind eye to it.

22:47I think everybody's seen that. Everybody's been a witness to that over the years. And so, you know, our people took it in their own hands and they managed to fend the Muslims off once again. You know, this isn't the first time this has been happening for us. This has been happening to us by the hands of Muslims for centuries, and it's going to continue to happen. And then from that, it seems the Muslims took a shift from young Sikh girls to young British, young English white girls. And that's what we've seen but you know if we talk about grooming etc i can tell you right now from my statistics from my from my experience that muslim men are online predominantly trying to groom seagulls i see that because i have a team of decoys with my predtron to work and you know with one of my decoys recently i told her to she's an asian girl i told her to put an islamic flag in the corner of her profile picture nobody went near her when she took that flag away and put a Christian cross or a Sikh khanda, then the Muslims come in by the dozens.

23:40I mean, there was one girl after she started a profile, after one hour she had 147 requests, predominantly by Muslim men. So I know that Sikh girls are still being targeted by Muslim men in this country because I have first-hand intelligence statistics and knowledge of that. We're going to move on to your predator hunting work. That's another thing that I love and admire because, again, my own father's a predator and I've seen the damage that he's caused single-handedly. So when you've got hundreds of thousands out there, I sleep at night better knowing that there's men like you out there that are doing their damnedest to put a stop to these.

24:14Well, you did an amazing job with your father as well, especially being your own father. How did you find that even afterwards? It was, I mean, very, very emotional, very heavy duty, but my greatest achievement. Really? God bless you. My greatest achievement, yeah. God bless you. No regrets? Oh, no regrets. I'll do it again. My only regret is he didn't get longer. He got 18 years. Did he get a life sentence or did he have to serve 50 % of that? Got to serve 50%. He's actually due out. He's due in front of the parole board recently. Really? Sorry, any time now. Really? But for me, be it my dad or not, the fact that I managed to incarcerate him for years, it saved a lot of pain that he would have inflicted on people for nine years.

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24:51So for me, that's my greatest achievement in life. I sent an individual to prison who breached his bail conditions. So basically he was let out. Well, he was on a suspended sentence. and from what I've learned in my Predator journey is that these individuals that are on suspended sentences and when they're on bail for, let's say, they've got 10 years, do five, and they do five outside, they always re-offend. So, yeah, so keep a close eye on them because they have this tendency to think they're above the law and to commit the crime again. Yeah, I mean, there's a whole load of narcissism in amongst the mix of depravity in there because you just think you're above it all and you can do what you like.

25:29It takes that to be able to commit these crimes. You know what I mean? Yes, beyond desire. 100%. Yes, a personality disorder, which I have no sympathy for. I'd have them all swinging from a tree if it was down to me, including my own father. Same. And that's a heavy thing to actually say and think out loud. But what made you get into hunting these predators? Well, as you know, I used to run the English Defence League alongside Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll back in the day when I was allowed to start associating with Tommy again because I had a little bit of a holiday at Her Majesty's Pleasure.

26:01I was on bail for quite a long time. I was on licence for quite a while. I wasn't allowed to go near Tommy Robinson, do any speeches, restart the EDL or anything like that. So after a few years, I started talking and associating with Tommy again, not to get involved in any sort of manner or form, but just to associate with a very good friend of mine who I've got a lot of history with, who I've made history with. And so what happened was after the Telfer demonstrations, I went to a couple of them. Tommy got his ex back. It all blew up. We organised the demonstration. at Parliament Square. Well, I think the next demonstration was Trafalgar Square.

26:32And it was that demonstration, a couple from my hometown, Kira and Hannah, who have heard of my work back in the day. You know, I'm quite well known in my area, especially down to the English Fence Sea. But other reasons as well. I've had businesses. I used to own a pub. So, you know, Beeston's a small town. You know, it's a small, tight-knit community. And so when they saw me on stage one day, and then they decided to contact me because, and they messaged me a couple of times on Messenger. And like I said to Tommy, Tommy said to me, and them used to tell me all the time, when are you going to get involved?

26:59When are you going to do something? I said, I'm all right. I'm renting some houses. Money's coming in. I'm getting married. I went along to the demonstrations purely for a social reason, you know, purely to see some friends, have a laugh, stay a couple of nights in the hotel, have a drink and go home and obviously support my mate Tommy Robinson and all the rest of Urban School. And then they approached me a couple of times because Kira was a victim of sexual abuse. She was a groom pillaged by a 57-year-old shopkeeper called Harry Shunker when she was 16 years old. he gave her alcohol, he gave her drugs, well, he sexually abused her in a manner of ways.

27:33When he went to court, his flash-a-lister got him off with a suspended sentence. Now, when he was on his suspended sentence, Ciara believed that he was still committing these same crimes at a different part of Nottingham. So that's when she approached me. And then at first I ignored the messages because I was like, if I answer this, if I go to them, I know what I'm like, I'm going to go all in because I hate these crimes just as much as you, Liam, you know what I mean? is, you know, I believe this most heinous criminal act anybody can commit. I believe rape and pedophilia is worse than murder.

27:59You know what I mean? And I thought to myself, but they kept messaging, and I thought, well, let me go and have a chat with them. When I went to have a chat with them, I saw the worry in her face, and I saw how this had affected Kira over the many years. You know what I mean? I mean, she's a completely polar opposite person right now to what she was then. And then so I thought, you know, I went to Urban's group, went to Tommy Robinson, and I asked him, because, you know, the first time I remember doing anything like this, and me and them put a plan together to get some investigators involved, keep an eye on Mr.

28:28Harry Shunker, and see if he is still committing these crimes. Now, when the investigators got involved, we were confident to find out he wasn't still committing these crimes. What he was doing was breaking a number of the conditions that he had on his sexual harm prevention order. He wasn't allowed to be in a shop by himself unless he was supervised by someone over the age of 21. He wasn't allowed to live with children. He had to tell his probation officer where he was working, where he was living. We caught him breaking a number of these rules. So I sat down with Kira and we put it together in a documentary form.

28:56I did a little intro and outro about how me and Kira came about. I sat down with Kira, did an interview with her. You can watch the documentary Kira's Justice on all platforms. You know, it's a harrowing story and it shows you what young girls are going through throughout the communities. And Kira was another example how she went to the police for help. She went to probation for help. She went to local MP, Juliet Campbell, for help. No one helped. So she came to me and I helped. So after I sat down with Kira, I got a team together. We sorted out a sting. We approached Harry Shunker. we put some questions to him and then a year later harry shunk was sent to prison for two years so complete success and then when that happened i thought it would just be a one-hit wonder we get it done help somebody community it's over but what happened more people came so then we had a mother's anguish marie came marie's daughter 13 year old was in a house of a self-confessed paedophile he told he said openly i'm a paedophile i'm in love with your daughter i'm in love with your daughter she ruled the police 36 times she got 36 crime reference numbers they did nothing I went round there with Marie, and I removed the daughter from the house.

29:53He's actually had me done for harassment. I've got a court case coming up for that. His name's Peter Allen. That's some of the Zangwish. And then we've got another individual who I can't mention due to bail conditions. I was supposed to be in court tomorrow for it, but now my court date has been moved to another day. This individual went into a gym in Nottingham, sexually assaulted six girls in one night, got let off with two, got found guilty of four, I think it was, three or four he got found guilty of. I put some questions to him, and I get arrested for harassment. Can you believe it? So we're living in a country now where you get arrested for harassing sex offenders.

30:24Well, I'm not harassing because I'm a journalist. I'm an investigative journalist. I'm putting some questions to you. He was very good at keeping his name and his picture out of the newspaper. He lives across the road from family members from mine, family members who've got children that are three, four, five, six, ten years old. So I believe everybody in the community needs to know who this man is. I went to put some questions to him, why he thinks it's acceptable to commit these crimes, the sort of harm and damage he's done to these girls. These girls did actually approach me. But it seems like the police got it in their ear, and then after that, they didn't want to do an interview.

30:51But in that documentary, we've got a sit-down with Alan Merritt, and he explains to me how dangerous these predators actually can be. Especially, I mean, what sort of sick individual decides one day to go into a hotel swimming bath, hot tub, and sexually assault seven women? Who does that in one day? How dangerous is that? He got a suspended sentence. On his court day at sentencing, he was spitting at the victims and all sorts. You know, he blagged to the judge, I've got depression, this, that, and the other. judge had previously said he sent him to prison he got a suspended senate we did another documentary Ali Dow a very famous youtuber who publicly stated he'd be happy with a 40 year old marrying a seven year old daughter you know that was a great documentary did another one of child traffickers where we had exposed people as high up as President Zelensky's wife in Ukraine being involved in the trafficking of children into Moldova where people in our secret services in MR5 were giving them identification of these children to bring over to England to be sold into child sex trafficking That one's called Child Traffickers.

31:49So there's been numerous documentaries that we've made. And then recently, with the help of PredatorHunter.com, an organisation that I'm part of that are kind of sponsoring my work, I've been able to create more documentaries. And on top of that, we're doing the live stings as well. And we're very busy. I've created a team of decoys. You know, they're ongoing training. Some have experienced, some have not. And then basically, we don't go out to entrap people. All they do is just set up a profile and wait for them to come. And unfortunately, we live in that world where hundreds are coming on a daily basis.

32:15Yeah, don't let me forget because you approached, I think it was a sting, you approached two people recently and you were throwing a few Fs into them saying they should be deported. So I want you to unpack that. But just so the audience know that don't know what a decoy is, just explain what a decoy is. A decoy is an adult individual who has, my decoys are all completely a CRB check, they've got no criminal record. They don't have anything when it comes to the matters that we deal with on a daily basis. they set up a profile online whatever social media platform some chat networks that you probably never even heard of either and what they do is they set up a profile and they just sit there and what you will find is that decoy like i said one of my decoys set up a snapchat account and she had 147 requests from grown-ass adult men within one hour so they set up as an account as a child as a child oh yeah they set up the account as a child so they will say they will state that than the 13, 14.

33:11And then the sexual offender will approach our decoy on the internet and start being inappropriate. Some of the messages and videos and pictures I've seen, we get a lot of these sick individuals that all they do is bombard them with explicit pictures of their penises or something like that, and then block the page. So they just send them, give them a torrent of sexual images and videos, and then they just block them. It's like something warps sick in their head. So on one point of it, what we do is we have a decoy and then the demon will be sending explicit images, messages to the decoy, and then the decoy will never, in trap, go and ask them to meet this, that, the other, and say, I don't think you should be sending me that.

33:51I'm 15 next week. I don't think you should be doing that. Do you want to meet? And the decoy may be saying, well, I'm in town tomorrow, and then the minute he organises the meet, he instigates the meet, that's when we perform a citizen's arrest on him. But there's other instances where if they don't perform the meet and I personally believe they're dangerous enough, I'll bring my private detectives into it, I'll find out where they live. The instance with the New Era documentary we made this year, we actually went to Rochdale. So when I went up to Rochdale, we had Billy from PAG UK, Parents of Greats Grooming.

34:18That's kind of his, that's his hometown. And so I needed his help with it. I told him the information my private detective would give me. He had pinpointed this guy down. I got to Rochdale with my camera crew. And the minute I got there, Billy's like, you're driving past us now. So we literally chased him around Rochdale. We didn't chase him around, we just followed him for a little bit. He pulled over. When he pulled over, we performed a citizen's arrest on him. and that was the first one we did with the help of Predhunter.com. And so sometimes I actually go to them. Other cases, well, recently we had the sting of Aqib Javid.

34:46His messages and his pictures and his videos were becoming quite dangerous, I thought, quite sexually violent as well. You know, it got to that point where it was disturbing one of my decoys, well, my main decoy is mental state. So after a few weeks, I thought, I can't just make these into a vanity project. It can't be a case like, yeah, I'm going to sting him, I'm going to sting him. sometimes I've got to take the responsible role as well so I decided to hand this one over to the police so we had his snapchat we had a phone number and I went to West Midlands police with all the evidence so I got a dossier of all the pictures and messages and videos and voice recordings on a USB that he sent we always give the police a big file with all the paperwork in and the MG11s at the end at the end which are our witness statements you know so they can contact us afterwards I went to the police that day in West Midlands because I live in Derbyshire and my decoy lives in West Midland and she had to take the interview with the police a day later.

35:34The police officer turned around to my decoy and said, tell Grimit to carry on with the stick because they can't find him via his Snapchat or his mobile phone number. Then I was like, bloody hell, the police can't even find him. How the fuck am I going to find him? So then we went to work and over the next few days, we managed to uncover a company that was owned by him in a LinkedIn account. We managed to discover a LinkedIn account that had a similar profile picture to what he had on Snapchat. From that, we found a company. from the company we found an address and then he actually last minute sorted out a meet.

36:04He had turned down about seven, eight meets already over the amount of weeks and that's why I was getting frustrated. He kept never turning up, never turned up. This one he turned up, but the minute I, we had to play this one a bit different because we didn't know what car he had. Usually we know what car they're coming in and they let you know. We didn't know anything with him. So we turned up and our decoy was walking down one side of the road and I was with a bunch of lads on the other side of the road. I looked him dead in the eye and he bolted off. So, but the most important thing that we achieved from that is I got a car registration.

36:29So then I went round to his house. I rung the 999. The police came. I said, before, you couldn't find him. After a few days, myself and the Seek Army team have been able to find him. We've given you his name, his address, his company name, his car reg, his company, where he lives. I've given you everything now, a wrestler con. So then they ended up arresting him. So literally, West Midlands Police came to us for help. Did you say Seek Army? Seek Army, an organisation that I work with. I work very closely with Seek Army, you know, with partners in crime. And who are they? Seek Army is, well, Seek Army, is, you know, they do a lot of work for the Sikh community online.

37:04They make videos, reels, and they have decoys that work alongside myself. So their decoys bring me, these Sikh individuals, to go and sting. So once their decoys actually put some work together, I mean, they do all the work online as well. They do a lot of TikTok educational work for the community. It's all community-based around the good virus and stuff like that. But they do have decoys there as well. So me and Sikh Army, we work together with exposing these individuals. I usually do the recording, package it together, and put it out a day or two later in like an hour and a half stream, see Kami all the guys are always first in, and they'll live stream onto all of their platforms as well.

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38:49Fucking off back to where you come from. Fucking off back to where you came from. What was that about? Who were they? Where did they come from? We have this terminology in our community. And you know what? I shouldn't say it. I shouldn't say it. But you know, when you have Sikh people that come from Punjab, they have a different kind of mentality. You know, they're not born in this country. They don't know the rules and regulations. They just think it's all easy living like in Punjab. We shouldn't say it. It's a negative terminology. It's derogatory. I'm just saying it for the hell of a bit. We call them freshies.

39:15And this individual was a Sikh boy and he came from Punjab. And you know, with what happened with me is usually I'm quite composed when it comes to my stings, as you've probably seen. This one I let loose a little bit. because what it was is we had the issue with our communities being thrown under the bus by this sick disturbed mentally unstable violent criminal Bikram Digba by murdering Henry Nowak I'm working with Sikh organizations in my within my community on a national basis to try and ease the pressure a little bit on us you know what I mean um and then we've got dickheads like who the individual that you know that are going online and making TikTok debates and stuff and bringing Henry Novak's name into disrepute, you know what I mean?

39:58And then all this is building up in us a little bit. And then I've got to deal with a fucking paedophile from my own community as well. You know what I mean? So literally, he's here on a work visa until next September. And I said to him, you know, if you can't play by the rules here, fuck off, that's the way you come from. I don't care if you're a Sikh. I'm not bothered about what religion you are. The work I do, we don't discriminate when it comes to paedophiles and rapists. I'll come after you, whoever you are. It could be a family member or a friend, I will take you out and then with him i just fucking went apeshit on and i did i just told him to fuck off back to where he come from and now he will lose his lose his visa and you know what annoyed me about this one more than anything as well it was the fact that this individual was harassing my decoy to such a level she was physically sick i've not you know she's taking a bit of a break right now he he harassed her that much you know bombarding her with images videos of his micro penis you know uh messages this that and the other she was physically sick she's this has never happened to her before she's always been a strong girl you know what i mean and she was physically sick and so that fucking pissed me off so much as well and it's someone from her own community and she's told you over and over again this is what i do you always do don't send me them pictures don't send me them messages i don't want to see it i'm a child and constant constant constant so i thought this fucking he's taken out you know i mean so he will be deported you know i mean we what the way it works is when they get arrested it's a good year or so before they even get getting caught you know i mean you know they remand them off the evidence you give them no from every from every instance we've seen so far they've had bail you know i mean everyone gets bail but i'll tell you what if you arrest a pedophile they probably get bail but if you call someone a pedophile you probably will get remanded because that seems to be the sort of way things go right now in this country but this one really pissed me off because he was someone from my community and with everything that was going on in my community at the time and you know we were all tired you know me and the sea calmly lot we talk daily i'm talking to all the sea organizations we were tired trying to, you know, calm down the blow on our people just because of this sick, mentally disturbed memory.

41:49Victor and Digba managed to kill an innocent boy in Southampton. We're trying to calm things, calm tensions, and then you've got idiots from our community raising tensions back up. You know, Tommy Robinson's been working hard with us to try and calm the tensions, keep everyone together. It's an isolated attack. It's not an Islamic attack where it's happening constantly all the time. This is isolated. It's never happened before, you know, what we know of. And, you know, we're trying to calm it all. all talking a lot, we're all going through a lot of stress, there's late nights, I'm married, I've got a business to run, I've got a family to take care of, my mother's just retired, and then I've got to deal with a fucking paedophile from my own fucking community as well.

42:22You know, so I just fucking ended up flipping that on him. And I told him, you know, just fucking pack your bags and fuck off back to where you come from. Simple as, really. Yeah, no, it was good work. It was enjoyable to watch. And yeah, you are normally very cool and calm. I am, yeah. I mean, dealing with those scumbags, they are going to trigger you. Now, we spoke a lot about incidents, well, injustices. Now, you mentioned previously that you'd been to prison. So I have to do my job and ask why you got sent to prison, what prison was like, and how you perceived the justice system from then till now.

42:55Yeah, I've got sent to prison on numerous charges, attempted on robbery, extortion, demanded money, menaceous assault, this and that and the other. They're all still crimes I plead my innocence for to this day. But you know, that's a whole different story. I don't want to get too much into the technicalities of that. There's still individuals out there that are worried that the police may come after them for this crime. There's still individuals in prison because of the backlash of what's happened here. So I don't want to talk too much on that in case I affect somebody else's life. But I plead my innocence to this day.

43:23I'm not saying nothing happened, but it weren't that. You sound like a politician. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, this is the first time you'll hear me sounding like a politician with this one. I can't get anybody else in this shit, so I just keep my mouth shut with it. How long did you get? I got 10 years. I got, well look, it's not a secret, I didn't turn up to my court case I got seven and a half years and then I got another two and a half years for going on the run My solicitor said to me that, you know, when we go to court there's no evidence against you, I mean, there's no Viper, which is facial recognition there's no fingerprints, there's no cell sighting there's nothing, even the victims who claimed that this crime was committed to them turned around and said it's not Grimit Singh, it's not him he didn't do it, all of that evidence and still what happened last minute before my court case, a week before my trial date, my solicitor rings me and said they found your fingerprints on sticky side of duct tape.

44:07I was like, you're telling me that they've unraveled a load of duct tape and I spoke to a few lads and there was no duct tape at the scene and they promised me that and if they tell me the sky's pink, the sky's pink, I know it's pink, they're not liars. And if you tell, so you're saying that my fingerprints are on sticky side of duct tape, supposedly that was found there and the evidence has just come after the date that all the evidence from Crown Prosecution has been handed in. And he goes, yeah, when you go to court, go guilty. I've got business affairs to take care of. I've got a brother that's going to university.

44:33I've got a mother and a grandmother to take care of because I've always been the breadwinner for my family, you know, for the majority of the recent years, since at least, you know, 2005 onwards, I had a lot of worries on my mind. So I said to them, you know, get the trial adjourned. Let's check, you know, let's examine this duct tape. Let's do something. He goes, no, I just turned up to court and go guilty. Then he started answering my calls all fucking weekend. It was on the Friday he rung me and told me that. I was on trial in Crown Court, not in a mom Monday. On the Friday, I attended my cousin's funeral because he committed suicide.

44:59I thought about it the weekend. I thought, fuck it. I need to get my financial affairs in order. So I bug it off. And then I came back about a month later, once everything was sorted, I told the police where I was. The police came two days later, arrested me. When they finally took me to court, the judge president stated that the judge that sentenced me, that sentenced me in absence, he wanted to see me. So they gave me bail to HMP Nottingham. I stayed sat there for another week or so, twiddling my thumbs, wondering what's going to happen. Took me back to court. There was quite a lot of bail conditions in the first place as well.

45:26I had to stay at my mum's house. I had to give my passport in. had to give some financial assurity that wasn't going on I'm going to go on the run and so when they dragged me back to court it was a judge in question and he says you know I give you seven and a half years I'm giving you another two and a half years because you went on the run he goes I'm going to bring you back to talk about this assurity he goes I believe that you've been through a lot no matter what anybody tells you being on the run is not a cool sexy thing to do it's the biggest head foot you'll ever go through in your mind every single day is a struggle it's the worst thing I've ever done in my life it's not like I went on a jolly up even though the police tried to make out that put me in the news with a glass of champagne in my hand saying I'm mocking the police that picture was from a year previous you know I mean and they're trying to make out I'm mocking them yes I did make out I was in London when I was in Cornwall and I did make out I was in Cornwall when I was in London because I needed a bit of time so I wanted to throw the police off off my tracks a little bit this is what you're supposed to do when you're on the run right well you know I'm just going off what I've seen in the films um and like I said I had to get my financial affairs in order so I needed to buy myself a little bit of time but every day was absolute hell it was so detrimental to my mental state and to me physically uh it was i'm never again in my life never again in my life yes it was a mistake but i had a job to do and i got the job done so i'm happy with it so he gave me seven and a half years in the initial court case uh sentenced me in absence then he gave me another two and a half years for going on the run so 10 years in total he says i'm going to bring you back to court to discuss this assurity i think you're having a bit of a hard time mr singh i said fuck it just keep you sure you know i mean my family's here now they're going to write you a check just send me to prison let me get on with burn so i cracked on my bird so i did six months in nottingham it's all my own people it was sound i kind of played the game a little bit got myself a single cell slipped a couple of quids the right person got a good job all that sort of stuff then i moved to rambi same thing there you know i mean i know how to get a buying life i know how to get around the right people there's a lot of nottingham people a lot of people knew me not just because of english defense because of the area of the world you know area of the country everyone knows me quite well i had a good job in there induction orderly reception orderly all that and then i had a bit of a ding dong with a a governor and I called her a peasant.

47:23And because of that, she sent me to HMP Stockholm. Now that's when shit got bad. Do you know what I mean? So I served about a year in my sentence so far. I've got four years left. In Stockholm, within two days, I was attacked. I went on to induction wing. From there, they moved me on to K-wing after a week or so. I told them, don't move me on to that wing because I know it's highly populated with Muslims. And I've already had a bit of a ding-dong in the jail. I was equality's mentor in equality's diversity class. You was the DEI of the jail? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was a mentor for the equality and diversity class in HMP Stockham.

47:54And this Muslim lad tried to attack the teacher with a chair, so I took the chair out of his hand and said, what the fuck are you doing attacking a bird? Do you know what I mean? And then he pressed the alarm, all the screws come in, grabbed him, tied him up. And then he started going around the wing, telling everybody that I'm going around attacking Muslims. I weren't attacking Muslims, I'm just stopping you from beating up a bird. She could be, she's just a female officer, she's just a civilian. No, she wasn't an officer, she was a teacher, you know, just doing an equality and diversity class.

48:17And then when that happened, they moved me on to K-Wing. with my mate John Boy, I was just, there's like 12, 13 Muslims in front of me praying on the floor. I thought, I'm in the shit here. And so they put me and John Boy in the cell and then he goes, I'm going out on exercise to get a few of our lads because I know it's coming on top now. He went outside, I locked my door, started unpacking my stuff but then a few lads knocked on the door. I thought, fucking, I know what's coming now. Opened the door, then about eight, nine of them come in and jumped all over me. There was a couple of them that actually says, no, we know who that is.

48:41We're leaving it alone. They jumped all over me, tried to put a little knife in the back of my head, some little blunt object, like a toothbrush or something. It cut me a little bit. I got a black eye out of it, but not much. And then they moved me back to the induction wing. Then I was there for about six, seven months. And then I couldn't see my family because when I did go on a visit, you know, all the Muslims were like, we'll get him again, we'll get him again, we'll get him again. So I stopped having visits. Every time I went off the wing to go to religious studies, I got attacked. So I couldn't go to religious studies.

49:05I couldn't leave the wing. I had healthcare appointments, even cancelled them because they were, it's like the officers had something against me there, HMP Stockham you know what I mean and I did actually sue the officers for HMP Stockham for my treatment and I won but I wasn't awarded anything you know we went to court when I came out of prison I took the officers to I sued the officers at Derby County Courts and the judge says yeah I'm in your favour you know they did a terrible job they should have took care of you they didn't take care of you I'm in your favour but I'm not awarding you anything you're not getting anything and my lawyer was like well you know let's appeal and go back I was like yeah well who's fucking paying for that you know what I mean I've just come out of jail I'm just getting back on my feet I don't need none of this drama so I left it in the pass but then after Stockholm it got a little bit well it didn't get messy I was actually settling in and I was hoping to get a cat D or something like that even though I went on the run I knew it was still a possibility and then Screws came one day and said you're going Weyland I said there's no way I'm going Weyland because I heard what Weyland is Weyland is a dregs and dregs of society you know mainly North East London ship out but it's a dregs of society throughout Norfolk and then I said I'm not going there and then they came a week later with security said if you don't go we're going to get rid of all your items that you've collected in the last couple of years or whatever so they sent me way and then i got an orderly job there and then long story short they discovered that there was assassination attempt on me there was money on my head in wayland the muslims had put 21 000 pounds together to try and have me murdered and they found out before they actually got to me so then they put me on a cat d wing you know kenneth noy was on that wing and i knew if you're on that cat d wing you'd go into cat d so the minute they put me on the wing omu governor come down the one government come down they give me cat d and then i went up to kurt lev i couldn't go to local cat d's because the same shit will happen there i couldn't go to cat d's in nottingham because around nottingham like subbury because maybe they wouldn't attack me but my name would be in that box every day i said send me where the white lads and the jamaica lads or i'll be happy and then they sent me up to kurt levington and then from there i was sad i did the final year in seven months for my sentence in peace you know i mean and finally came home and then built a business out of it and yeah we've been going ever since but yeah but it's something especially now I do tend to just keep in the past.

51:05What's happened? It's happened. It's done. I'm kind of over it. I had a little bit of a moment during my Preds Hunter journey about a year or so ago, after I did the first couple of two, three documentaries, a lot was happening on top. I was funding a lot of it myself. You know, my family's living a little bit of a lifestyle, less a lifestyle because I'm putting so much money into this because as you probably know, Liam, a lot of this is charity. You know what I mean? A hell of a lot of it's charity. If it gets somewhere one day, it can do. But right now, the funding comes from Predhunter.com and myself.

51:32So I went into a bit of a dark space. I was questioning myself. I was questioning if I'm doing the right thing. It started bringing back a lot of the emotions that I had in prison. You know what I mean? And there were sad times, you know. I can honestly admit to it. You know, when you're in that position, you think about killing yourself sometimes. It's not a decision that I ever took, but, you know, people do do. And I kind of broke down a little bit, and I was drinking a lot, and I moved away from my family a little bit, and my wife. You know, we'd only just been married a year or so. But I managed to get myself out of the shit, pull myself together, you know, give myself a kick up the arse and crack on with it and since then you know the Fred Hunter series has just been you know succeeding from one level to the next level I've created more content in the last three months than I've created in the last two years so and we're 100 % successful so it shows you that the journey that we're on yeah your head's back in the game my head's back in the game yeah and I'm completely ruthless with it nothing's going to get me down now I only think about the thoughts and what's going through the victims minds and I think about these horrible bastards we're taking down weekly that could potentially be committing these crimes against other young girls so you know every day's success it's it's not the nicest thing to be dealing with these sort of conversations pictures videos voice notes on a daily basis it's horrible it's disgusting no wonder one of the decoys is like ill physically ill in bed at the moment but we're getting through it but i think after i had that little bit of a wobble i come back a hell of a lot stronger yeah good now if we take your word for it that you're innocent and you just jailed for 10 years so from what you've experienced in the justice system and since what you've seen in the justice system in the UK.

52:59How do you perceive the British justice system? I mean, I don't think most, I mean, I'm not in prison right now. So I couldn't tell you what it's precisely right now. But I do have a lot of friends in prison. I did. I was part of a lifestyle that I'm not no more. And a lot of my mates are in and out in and out quite a lot, probably similar to yourself as well. And so, but what I've heard is in prison, there is still the most important thing to me, I mean, I couldn't do my bird in peace because of the islamic faction you know if you take that out people could actually do their bird in peace be rehabilitated move on to you know get released and move on to bigger and better things but you can't when you've got that constant interrogation bullying assaults drug dealing from the islamic faction i'm not saying nobody else sells drugs of course they do in prison but they're responsible for a lot of the harm that's caused to other inmates in prison I worry a lot for the people that go to prison I mean we saw with individuals after the Southport riots you know that went to prison some people you know there was an individual that killed himself other people were assaulted stabbed you know this that and the other and so that's that's my worries with it so whenever I see people organizing demonstrations or marches or something like what happened on the streets of Southampton the other day I do worry for them when they go to prison I mean recently you've seen I mean the justice system is so weak right now that you I I mean, the police officers will throw you in prison for comments online and stuff like that.

54:20That was unheard of when I went to prison. You couldn't go to prison because of comments on Facebook when I was in prison. You know, it was serious criminals. It was proper crime. You know what I mean? Proper crime. Not this sort of two-bit bullshit they're doing now. People get more prison time right now for comments on Facebook than what they do for raping children. That's where we're at right now. And, you know, there's been a degrading of society for some time now. I actually personally believe since Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II died, our country's been going downhill a lot quicker and a lot faster.

54:52I believe that woman was protecting us on a whole that maybe none of us actually know about. But that's what I personally believe. And it's going down quicker and harder. Pedophiles are being let out. Talking about a pedophile, you go to prison. You know, it's weird. It's changing. And it's a degrading of society. It's a degrading of our justice system, our judiciary system. and we're having to live with it, especially under this Labour government. If we do get some sort of truth, some decent party, some truthful, decent party in the future running things, then maybe things could turn around. I never believe it's ever too late to turn things around.

55:27So that's what I hope for. We've still got a few years for the next election, so we just bide our time and see what happens. I'm very worried about the future. Oh, yeah. I'm very worried. There's a lot of divide on the right. If the left stay in, the country gets worse. They oversee everything. They're biased. If it doesn't affect them, they don't care. I understand your worries, but I also believe that I'm quite optimistic with what the right can achieve. I'm optimistic with what we can achieve, individuals like me and you, like Tommy. I mean, we're all aligned with the right people on the right.

55:55It's political leaders, it's their ego. You know what I believe, Liam? I believe it's going to take people like yourself, Tommy Roberts, and myself to put these people on the right together. We're not politicians. We'll sort the fucking country out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll sort the fuckers out. Yeah, we're not politicians. You know, we're not them. We're not that nine to five Westminster sort of elite party. You know, I mean, we're the people that people are listening to, especially people like yourself, that people are listening to, taking advice from, tuning into, supporting. I believe we're the sort of people that can get these lads in order because we're not politicians.

56:26We're not going to be that. Maybe, you know what I mean? But I believe it's going to take us sort of people to start stepping in and start putting these people together and doing it for the best of the country, of the people of this country. But who do you think are speaking for the people of this country in Parliament? Rupert Lowe. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act? Oh no, this is mad.

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57:36Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode, available on Plus and Pro plans. Nigel Farage, in a way, but I don't trust him. You know, there's a couple of other Islam types. I stopped trusting him as well. You know, they're all part of that parliamentary class, you know, that Westminster elite. I think we need to get away from that. I think it's going to take the sort of flat cap and Doc Martin boots worker sort of bloke to go in and sort it out. It's like what Fred Digber said, this country wasn't built by suits and boots, it was built with bloke with flat caps and pipes in their mouths.

58:10And I think we maybe have to get back to that to reconstruct this country again. What about, so Rupert Lowe has got a lot of support from the ethno-nationalists that have become very, very loud on X and they would want to send you home. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that whole thing? You see, the ethno-nationalists can support Restore all they want, But does restorative support the ethno-nationalist? I don't believe so. So they're still barking up the wrong tree. I mean, I've never come across a stupider person than an ethno-nat or an Islamist. That's where all my hatred comes from. And you know, if I can go through life with these two sectors of society hating me, I know I'm doing the right thing.

58:48The amount of comments I get on my videos and posts on X is unbelievable, but I literally laugh at it. None of it affects me in any single way because everything I'm doing in every sector of my life is winning. You know, I understand, you know, we all have problems. We could have financial problems, relationship problems, family problems. We all get that. But every part of what I do is moving upwards and forwards and moving forward in such a strong way I could never even imagine, so I can't complain. These individuals sit on the internet, trolling decent individuals like ourselves, talking shit, never achieved anything in their lives.

59:21Just sit there trolling people. I believe they're good for nothing. They're just trying to find some self-importance in their words online and trying to jump on an organisation like Restore to believe that there is something out there for them. But Restore's not for them either, I don't believe. So they'll just get left in the corner as per usual. It'll be interesting to see how long it takes before Rupert Lowe denounces some of the supporters he's got that are just pushing it a little bit too far. Because it has to come a point where, because politicians do it at a certain time, they get to a crossroads and they strategically distance themselves from certain people and figures.

59:56So it'll be, I'm politically homeless. Because I speak to a lot of people, I like picking people's brains, seeing where they're leaning towards, and then I watch who the people they're supporting are going. I don't believe you can ever find a political party that's 100 % perfect for you. You're going to love a lot of things and you're not going to like a lot of things. Every party is going to be like that. But I think you need to put the British people before your own opinions. And I believe the political party that's right for the British people at that time is the political party for me. And some people would say that you were controversial and divisive.

1:00:28Yeah. Do you care what people think? Not really. And what do you say to them people? Not really. I don't believe I'm controversial because I believe I'm mainstream opinion. And I don't believe I'm divisive because I believe I bring people together. It's not me that went against Islam. Islam went against me. It's not me that went around the streets beheading, butchering, killing, raping, pillaging people. They did that. Not me. I'm just calling it out. So I don't believe that's being divisive. That's just being honest. And what do you think the biggest problem Britain faces right now is? Weak politicians and Islam.

1:00:56That's what I believe. And I believe it's the weak politicians that are allowing the Islamists in to take over. We've seen that recently within the Green Party. We've seen it in the ranks of the Labour Party. We've seen it happening. We've seen the sort of heinous crimes that they've been committed against young girls and young men in this country for decades now. It's a constant pattern. It doesn't just go back 20, 30 years in Great Britain. It's been going back 1 ,400 years, 1 ,500 years since the birth of Mohammed. So I go off historical evidence for 1 ,500 years. That's what I base my opinions on.

1:01:26And I believe that with weak politicians and with Islam taking pure advantage of that, that's the worst situation this country can be in. That's the most dangerous threat to all of us. What do you think about the unrest that's been going on in Belfast? So this Sudanese Islamic illegal that come on rubber dinghy beheads a person on the streets of Belfast, and the Belfast lads go out, bricking the fucking, burning down the houses of all the HMOs that are housing these illegal migrants. I understand why they're burning down them HMOs at what they live in. I get it. I understand. I wouldn't do it.

1:01:58I wouldn't tell people to do that, but I get it. But this is a situation that has been caused by weak politicians not listening to the people of this country and allowing in these third world backwards bastards from God knows where to come here. And this is just one instance. They're committing these crimes on a daily, weekly basis. I have friends, well, you know, I was part of organising demonstrations outside the Best Western at Junction 25 in Nottingham, and the people are still demonstrating that there every single Saturday against the illegal migrants in that hotel. You know, so I've been quite in touch with this for a number of years.

1:02:32We don't want them here. The country didn't want them here. The government, successive governments, didn't have a mandate to bring them here. They're a cost. They're a burden. They're raping, killing, pillaging. They're never going to be a doctor. They're never going to be a bloody scientist. They're never going to be a teacher. They're never going to be any of that. They're just going to be leeches of society, and that's why we're getting costed living priced out of our arses in every single angle possible. So I understand why people are going around burning down houses, but I'm saying I wouldn't do it myself.

1:02:58That's a fair comment. And where can my audience find you? What's your social media platforms? I'm on Gourmet Singh on Facebook. I'm on X. I've just started on Instagram. I'm on Twitter. And if anybody needs to contact me in regards to the daily work that I do, maybe if they've been a victim of the heinous crimes that I fight against on a daily basis, you can get me at gorymitsingh at urbanscoop.news and we're always willing to help. You know, we have documentaries along with life's things. If I can ever bring justice to a family or an individual that's never received it, I'm all up for it. We've worked in the past.

1:03:31The proof's in the pudding. We've got 100 % success rate. So yeah, we're here for you. And what's your final message to the masses be? Be optimistic for the future. There's always hope. You know, centuries ago, you know, my people in India were going through hell when it came to the Mughal Muslims. they fought out of it and they won. You know, it was only less, you know, just over half a century ago in this country where there were bombs raining down all over this country. Be optimistic. There's always hope. Stick together, be peaceful, be together, all one, and fight against the injustices that these politicians and certain communities are putting on us and just ride it through.

1:04:06We'll get there in the end. And if you believe we're going to get there in the end, please like and subscribe to this channel so I can keep bringing you these conversations that the mainstream won't. I'm going to put all of Gurmit's contact details in the description so you can find him and follow his work. And I will sign off with, I know in this day and age that the heroes are being sent to jail while the villains are being sent free. So although you're doing God's work, stay safe and be careful. God bless you, my mate. Cheers, brother. See you again soon, my brother.

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