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25:40That's going to be popular. You're a woman that likes men. I'm a woman that likes men and I'm a woman that sees that men have different qualities to women, that women don't have. Most women don't want, a lot of men don't want to fight on the front line of a war, but you'll find more men that do than women, I think. Perhaps not now. Perhaps women have become so odd. Who goes downstairs to greet the burglar when he breaks in your house? It would be the man, wouldn't it? Of course it would. I mean, I'd send the wife. I'd say, fuck that. Of course. I've lost F-nats, Siv-nats. I don't know. I just think it's a sort of weird, uncomfortable argument.

26:10And the trouble is, up until recently, I didn't think those white supremacist people really existed. I thought they were a myth of the left. And now there's some silly idiots out on Twittersphere who are doing their best to allow the left to say they're there. I'm the same as you. I didn't really think white supremacy was a thing. I thought it was something you'd see on a Louis Theroux documentary in America. But it's like, it's here. Yeah. Yeah, I don't subscribe to that at all. Absolutely not. And I call out my own. And you get a lot of people, these ethnics, they kind of they'll defend anyone that's indigenous, but yet they'll disregard anyone that's not.

26:46It's like, so are you telling me that you'd you'd prioritise Ian Huntley over Ian Wright? That's my argument. So where's your where's your moral compass? Yes. And I was where I've come across it. I was I was really shocked to see the stuff. Well, nothing should shock you on Twitter, of course, or X or whatever we call it. But to see the stuff that was thrown at Ben Habib, I thought was absolutely disgusting. You know, I don't know if people who don't know Ben Habib is half Pakistani, half English, but mainly brought up in English, went to an English public school, behaves and has been as as an English British person for all the life he can remember.

27:25And I think it was some of these ethno-nats, was it? I don't know who they are or just plain nasty people on X who were saying things to him like, go back to Pakistan. You can't, don't you think you can run a political party if you're a Paki? And saying things like, what else did they say? Oh, even worse about his mother. Horrible things. I mean, dreadful things. So where's all that come from? You'd understand if Ben Habib had been anti-Britain and British culture, but he's totally embraced it. He promotes it. Absolutely. And what worries me about this debate, if you're just going to ask me about whatever this Sivnats and Ethnats is, I don't even really want to go there personally.

28:09Don't go there if you don't want to. Having the debate has allowed a lot of very unpleasant people out of the woodwork. See, I quite like that because I like it when people show their hand. It's like, I now know who you are. Your card's marked. OK, you're unpleasant. I can't trust you. You're a good person. I think eventually the truth of the person rears its head, be it ugly or not. Well, I've found that actually over. It's been very sad over the whole vaccine thing that people I thought were my allies in the sort of big fight against the imposition of the COVID vaccines have then now gone really weird and turned out to be so anti-Semitic.

28:48So it's been a very uncomfortable, I think this has been an uncomfortable, is it year? Well, I know it's over a year. It's since October the 7th. The last 12 months, I've felt so much toxicity in the air. Yes. How would you deal with mass migration? I'm assuming that you're not a fan of it. Well, I can't remember whether Ben's taken this on in his advanced stuff. But the first thing I would do if I was prime minister, ministress or whatever, and got in, I would just put a total moratorium on all inward migration. Legal or illegal? Everything. Same. It takes stock. But I'm never going to be PM.

29:25No, and I'm never going to be PM. But how can you get it under control unless you have an audit? Yes. I mean, I'm not saying we should put loads of auditors into it, but you really, we surely have enough people in. We don't have to keep on bringing more people in, running care homes, whatever, whatever. There are enough people. There are more than enough people here. So number one, moratorium, total moratorium. I would stop flights coming in like Trump did. Travel ban. Do a travel ban. Then, as Ben very wisely says, you've got to get the countries to take them. But I would deport all foreign criminals.

29:58I mean, they take up such a huge proportion of our prisons. There is so much NFL on ESPN right now. Monday Night Football, plus pregame and postgame. NFL Live, NFL Primetime. everything you need to stay on top of every game every week. Unbelievable. And now NFL Network is on the ESPN app. More football, more coverage, more ways to watch. Football's on, all season long on ESPN and streaming on the ESPN app. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

30:44And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. Then they should be gone overnight. I mean, they should be gone overnight. So you clear some prison spaces. Starmer wouldn't lose any face for doing that, even though he's a filthy communist. But you wouldn't lose any face by doing that because a criminal is a criminal. A criminal is a criminal. And the boats, I mean, frankly, I'd float them back out to the North Sea.

31:20It sounds awful, but it's fundamentally what Tony Abbott did in Australia. And it stopped the Vietnam migration almost not overnight. And why Vietnam is a thriving country is they didn't lose all their middle class. You're going to be considered radical with those kind of views. And yes, there will be fatalities. but it's going to be the only way, it's the only message that's going to be sent that will stop this. But either way, there's going to be fatalities. There are fatalities here. We're importing fundamentalists and there's sleeper cells spread around. We're without doubt importing men who rape women.

31:52How do we defend ourselves from fundamentalism that we're importing? I think you have to crack down on imams who are preaching stuff. You get imams out of prisons. Yeah, I never thought about that. The trouble is we've allowed these no-go areas of communities where police or whoever it is anyway, the police are also woke, can't go in. But really the moment you see that an imam's preached something like telling people how to stone women, he should be out and be deported like that. Yesterday. Yesterday. You certainly say you don't allow Islamic dress in public places. I mean, so nurses can't wear hijabs, lawyers, all these different people who are pulling in their dress codes.

32:39Certainly the burqa should be banned without doubt. But we cannot fall for dress codes that treat women like that. That is against our culture. That is against our values. Yes, I'm not a feminist, but I believe in equality of respect for women. I don't have to be a feminist to believe in equality of respect for women. And that is not equality of respect. That's subjugation. So we have to be much clearer about what's acceptable on our streets. If they want to dress up in their homes, what you do in your own home in your private space, that's fine. But you don't have state schools employing people, teachers who wear robes and are they the kneecaps or the hijabs, sorry, the headscarves.

33:25Yeah, the hijab, you have your face on display. Yeah, and if you want to put a headscarf on when you go home from school or go to school, that's fine. But not for teachers in school. So we have to re-establish our rules, our dress codes in all our institutions. And the trouble was, this is again about the way going back to about committing suicide, getting rid of formal dress codes has been a disaster, like nurses' uniform, hats. If you have proper codes of dress, everybody has to abide by them. Is that purposeful, do you think, so that we can introduce these different religions and cultures and ideas and people?

34:03Part and part, I think. But again, it's the murder-suicide thing. We got sloppier. Men got sloppier in their dress. I mean, you used to have to wear a suit to go to work in certain things. and lockdown was terrible. Everyone could slop around their pyjamas at home doing it on Zoom. So our general standards and our codes and our personal discipline has dropped massively and we're not prepared to conform. Yet everybody conformed to having a vaccine, but everyone says, oh, I'm going to be an individual. Sorry, I'm going to have my tattoo. I'm going to have my coxcomb. I'm going to wear what I like and don't you tell me I can't.

34:41And they should stop children going to school with their hair in a bush out there. everybody should have their hair cut properly to go to school. It would never have been allowed when I was a kid somebody to come in with a sort of massive, great Afro bush. We need to conform where we need to conform but not conform in our stupid, woke thinking. No. What's oikophobia? Oikophobia, right. Oikophobia is when you hate your country. And so what we've had... And is it an actual word? Yes, it is a word. It's in the dictionary. I'd never heard of it. All the children at school taught to learn the British Empire was terrible.

35:15Everything we've done is wrong. Everybody else is better than us. We've got to feel guilty. Guilt, guilt, guilt, guilt, guilt, white guilt. So we've been mischaracterised. But especially the oikophobes are the people, again, it's the middle class elites who like to sneer at the very country and system that has allowed them so much opportunity. And why do you think they're doing that? Why do you think they've got that pompous attitude? It really goes back to the left-wing takeover of education from around 70s onwards. I mean, Ken Livingstone and the, what was it called, Greater London, what's it, Authority.

35:57But Margaret Thatcher, she had a couple of big, one of the biggest, she had two, in my view, big failures, but she didn't realise it was happening. all the way on her watch, local education authorities all through that period were going more and more left-wing. So you always have a conservative government, you'd have left-wing local education, left-wing authorities, and you got more and more left-wing cultural Marxist thinking going into the education system. And it's now there right in the Department of Education, but it's absolutely entrenched in our schools and universities. And so this started when Margaret Thatcher was at the helm?

36:33Yeah, and then she never brought back grammar schools You could say it began with comprehensive education. And what did she do? More comprehensives opened under her than under whoever it was who brought them in in the Labour government before. And what was Margaret Thatcher's other fail? Oh, the other fail was on when she introduced independent taxation. And that meant that women could be taxed separately, but she didn't introduce what they've actually kept in many European countries. Interestingly, it was a household taxation, so the house would be taxed as a unit. So it made the situation harder for the married mother who wanted to be at home.

37:12And she never rectified it. And it was, again, that was the bit her bow to feminism. She did bow to feminism. Right. But it created an inequity in the tax system that meant that it's very hard to be a single earner married family with children. And from somebody that knew Margaret Thatcher, what could Keir Starmer learn from Margaret Thatcher? What traits could he inherit? Well, it would be impossible because she believed in a small state and he doesn't believe in a small state. He believes in the state determining every aspect of our life and intruding in every aspect of our life. Once you undermine the family, which she did in that move, and nobody's ever rectified it by introducing a transferable tax allowance for women who want to stay at home and look after their children.

38:00But once you undermine the family, you open the door further to the state taking over the family. And we've seen it. We've got effective nationalization of children. So Keir Starmer is incapable of learning anything from Thatcher.

38:15So she believed in a small state, but she only executed that idea by trying to reverse a lot of the Labour's intervention in the economy. So she tried to help private industry. She tried to privatise. She didn't want the state to be running all the services. She wanted to privatise. But that was her way of getting the state smaller. But since her, especially under Blair, the state grew exponentially in the social and public sector. Cool. When you see Blair pop up, because I can't believe he still makes television appearances and his opinions even considered, What do you think when you see that wretched looking man pop up and pipe up?

38:58He's quite evil. He looks evil. He looks evil, but they're very disturbed, these people. They come from, it's a very odd generation of men. I mean, when I was saying it's, you know, it is the opposite of the alpha male. It's the honorary feminist male. They're very weird. I worked at London Weekend Television and actually Peter Mandelson and took the job when I left to go to TVM. So I'm to blame because if he hadn't got my job at LWT, he would have known from there he'd jumped into the Labour Party and he got all the people at LWT to support Tony Blair's leadership campaign. He was a great operator.

39:39And, well, I'm not saying that. He would have done it anyway, whatever job he took. But all those men I knew when I was working at LWT, and some are still alive and too bad they can hear me. They don't like me much. So they were the antithesis of what I thought men should be. They weren't operating for a greater good. They were certainly operating for their bite of the cherry power. I'm all right, Jack. I'm all right, Jack, but with this type of superior left-wing agenda. Like they were more progressive, they were more, but they weren't. Progressive. I mean, wow. It's very difficult to describe them.

40:17But there was a generation of men that grew up in this country that I knew I didn't like. And Tony Blair was certainly one of them. Wolf in sheep's clothing. Yeah. And I felt there were men who'd looked down on me because I was conservative. I was like, you're almost a pariah to be conservative. I was old fashioned because I haven't caught up with the feminist thing. I was old fashioned because I had fairly old fashioned views about a range of things. Oh, and they didn't like that. Do you think when you was working in the mainstream, men found you a threat? I was gentler then. But then I'd occasionally blurt out something that they disapproved of.

40:55Oh, there you go. There I go. Gentle until you're not gentle. I did not have the confidence I have now to say what I thought. What's been the breaking point for you then? Why are you now so hardline? Yeah, I had somebody asking me that who said, when I knew you, why have you turned so right wing, Cathy? I said, well, I don't know about turning right wing. I think probably motherhood in the end, motherhood did it for me because I'd been I'd gone along with a lot of the thinking. And and I brotherhood brought me up terribly short. And I did go back to work very soon after my first baby because I thought I was going to lose my job.

41:32And so another woman was going to take it. And then I I mean, literally, if I'm going to be really honest with you, you know, breast milk was coming down my shirt. My heart was having palpitations because I and it took me nine months, but I gave up and became a full time mother. And then I knew that you have to protect your young. You have to look after your young. You have to keep your man online. You have to. This is with women give this up. The world goes shit. I totally agree that a woman's role in the world is essential. I mean, really, you make the nest. You make the house a home. You're the heartbeat of the home.

42:07You should be the heartbeat. And you have a long lifestyle. We live longer than men. So what's the rush? What's the rush? Look at the career I've had. Well, not career, self-made career I've had since. I mean, I began doing stuff probably when they were mid late teens. I mean, I took off a bit later because my husband died and I was a single parent. So that was a bit more work. And I always wanted to be there, keeping an eye on them. Two boys. You do want to keep an eye on two boys. I know what it's like to be a single mother. And that's why I think single motherhood is crap. Yeah. You need authority.

42:41It's very, a single mother will find it very hard, especially with boys. And then the relationship between a single mother, and this is really going to offend people because there are a lot of you out there, it's not your fault, this is the way society's pushed everybody, but a single mother's relationship with her daughter's is a bit intense too. There can be competition for men, all sorts of interesting, not so interesting, not so nice things. Not that they know it's happening, but it's just not healthy. That is interesting you say that. That is very interesting. Sorry, I know that will upset a lot of people.

43:12And stuff I used to say about single mothers really used to upset people against me in the past. And I'm not saying it against the women, but I'm against saying it. Do you actually yourselves think it's ideal? Is this the choice you'd really like to make? Or would you like that alpha male in the house with you, looking after you and helping you bring up the children? A man you could rely on, share things with properly, be a team with. Yeah, I'm with you 100%. I think it's terrible the way society has gone, the fact women think they can do it all on their own. I don't think it's good for children.

43:43It's terrible for children. I mean, we need fathers. Children need fathers. You're weaker. You're weaker. And the children know you're weaker. And the children certainly know a lot of single mothers are very depressed. They see your depression. They know it. Children aren't stupid. And they become more vulnerable. And they certainly become more vulnerable to their peer group, which is another huge problem of not having strong families where children know that they're going home, that there's a father there, there's somebody who can protect them. I mean, when I push my grandchildren around various parks in South and West London and I see all the way, all the crazy kids coming out of school, it's alarming.

44:22And hanging around bus stops. One place I was, there was a stabbing about the week after I'd sort of walked through it. The next week I'm there, same crowd of kids. I said, was this where the child was stabbed, I say to the kids? He said, yeah, but there's nothing to worry about. I said, what do you mean it's nothing to worry about? And I thought, where are the teachers? Where are the police? This was exactly in this spot. And there was another altercation going on there. And I thought, what's happening? What's happening? We've sort of abandoned kids with everybody out at work and not thinking how you bring up your kids is important or not.

44:57We need warriors back in the, certainly in the country. I mean, I know they're out there, but I think the UK is very depleted of warriors. Was there once a warrior class that you remember? Well, I suppose if I'm really honest, when I grew up in the 50s and after the war, I mean, my dad had been in the Air Force and he'd been on a boat that was torpedoed and he was one of very few survivors. He would have been fairly traumatised. I think there were a lot of men who were. And I sometimes wonder as whether the generation of my generation growing up, the boomers who all, I think it went wrong with the boomers.

45:32It went wrong with the boomers. I sometimes think it was because so many of our fathers and mothers were traumatised by the war. But on the other hand, they were warriors in that war. And they had to become warriors because they had to be strong. Now I think people get it so easy that they feel like they don't really need to be warriors. Well, and look what's happened now with a defenceless Britain, with Starmer. We've got one boat and they can't get it out of harbour. And it's like it operates on nine to five, you know, when it hasn't got the gay pride flag up flying on it. You know, I mean, it's horrendous.

46:09What do you think about the whole LGBTQIA++ madness? Well, again, I think feminism opened the door to it. So they made themselves, first of all, they were the prime. They all sit and get really worked up, all these, what do they call them, the feminist women who fight against trans, which is good that they're fighting it, but they're fighting it from a position that somebody overtook them in the victim hierarchy. And I want to say to J.K. Rowling and people like that who are very good, look, feminism opened the door to identity politics because you started treating people in groups instead of treating women as just saying, if you're good enough and you want to do that, get through on your merit.

46:47But we're not going to give you any positive discrimination. We're not going to say 70 % of women ought to study physics or women ought to go in the army or whatever. So, but, and they opened the door to it. And then you've got all these psychologically stuffed up kids who aren't brought up properly with strong enough parents who then get their identity comes from not belonging to a family with grandparents, uncle, aunties. It comes to belonging from weird goth or trans or crazy identity group. So it's a transference of what they really need into this dangerous identity stuff. And then the government comes down and says, oh, we've got to respect these identities.

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48:26Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. No. Why? No. If they're absurd, why? They're absurd. Yeah. But people like Keir Starmer, these weird men, say, oh, we've got to respect them. I wonder what skeletons he's got in his closet, other than the Rent Boys. Well, probably no comment on that one. But all I thought is how much more is there to come out on the Mandelson, Epstein, Labour? Oh, I think they're in serious trouble. I think if there was to be a full inquiry into everything from the rape gangs to the Epstein files, I think they would be in serious trouble.

49:09Well, I think Great Britain would be under the microscope, the world stage, we would be shamed. If you think of what we know to be facts that they've covered up over the years, the councils, the government, the rest of them. I mean, just imagine what we don't know about. I just think the population's just got to get a bit more active. Can I come back to your question and say, what do ordinary British people do who are the people who are, sort of think they're sort of patriots? They really have got to get off their bottoms. What, patriots? All the people, everybody was out at Unite, the Kingdom Rally, they've all got to vote to begin with, and they've got to vote for the least worst.

49:45Get out there. Even if they're one they don't like is, but vote for the least worst. But they've got to make their presence felt. They've just got to make their presence felt because this group of left-wing progressives who've done, I'm All Right Jack, done very well by themselves, they have dictated the agenda for far, far too long. Yeah, just a couple more things I want to ask you. Who can modern-day society learn from? A historical figure that had it right and we've let it slip. Who do we look to to sort of straighten us out? Well, I suppose you look to the one that they're so happy to deride and demonise, which is Churchill.

50:27He is the ultimate. He's the ultimate alpha male. I mean, if you ever read anything, I promise you, read his early years autobiography. Just listen to it on audio tape. What a man from very early on. Well, his mum really pushed him, but he got into Sandhurst by the skin of his teeth. He learned to write. He was an absolute daredevil. You want to know the wars he was in? He was so brave. He was in the last cavalry charge that's ever been on his horse with the whirling dervishes out. He's just and then he came through to this. He was he was treated like a pariah because he said Germany's arming all the way through the 30s.

51:08And he stuck to his guns. OK, yes, he was upper class and there was money there and he could write. He was a brilliant writer. So he earned his money in journalism to keep him and his family going. He was not a perfect man in any respect, though. He stuck with his marriage. That was a very, very strong thing in his life. But he withstood all the naysayers all the time. He withstood the naysayers. He didn't mind being told he was wrong, balmy, whatever. And Tommy's the nearest we have to that now. Yeah, somebody that won't buckle. He doesn't buckle. You just don't buckle and you stand there. And also the other really, really important thing, and I don't think Winston showed, he didn't carry resentment.

51:51And so I know it's very hard for Tommy under his thing, but I don't get the feeling he is carrying resentment. But that weakens you. Tommy is very, very forgiving and kind. Which is amazing because if you carry resentment, that will disempower you. Tommy forgives everyone and trusts too many people. People haven't got any idea what he's really like. They read the tabloid, they don't know him. I can imagine. Very kind, very trusting. So I speak to his mum. I'm very close of his mum. If there's a problem, I'm normally the first person that gets called to say, can you rescue Tommy from a situation?

52:25And the conversation, and I'm not talking out of school because it's something that could be shared, but just one little thing about Tommy's childhood that I've been told personally, this isn't third-hand news. He'd go to school. From a very, very young age, he was protective. If he went to school and there was a kid, and it wouldn't matter what colour he was either, by the way, the chances are they were a different colour. But if they was at school when it was cold and they didn't have a coat, he'd give them his and he'd go home with no coat. And his mum would say, where's your coat? And he'd say, oh, I've given it to someone who needed it.

52:55Yeah. That's Tommy still. And I can see that when I, I mean, I got sort of converted if that's the word, because I really didn't know anything about him. And then I listened to all the big long Jordan Peterson interviews he did. It was about two years ago. Anyway, and then he was allowed to talk and he wasn't, he wasn't being attacked. And he talked and talked with Tammy. And it was just so fascinating. And you could see, I could see then, which the media has never given him, allowed him, is that he cared about his community. He cared about what was happening to his community there and then. He cared about the girls being raped.

53:34He cared about the drugs being pushed. He cared about these things. And he thought, I'm going to do something about it. And then he was treated He's a racist. No, no, no. He wasn't a racist. He was disliking something that was very unpleasant that was going on in where he was and that people were denying and that the police and the local authorities and everyone was denying. But it was appalling the way he'd been demonised. I mean, I remember Norman saying to me, you really should, you know, Tommy's great, this, that and the other. I said, you should really do this, that and the other. And I said, well, I just don't know.

54:04I don't know about him. I don't know this. And then it was the Jordan Peterson thing that really got me. And then I realised I should have bothered earlier. to read about him, find out about him, and just not take the narrative that the mainstream delivers and still delivers. And it's insane because he's now got his right to reply through his ex-accounts, so they'll get proven to be liars because he'll just take their article and just provide the evidence that it's a liar. They just discredit themselves now. They do and they don't because nobody calls them to account. Yeah, sad but true. What do you know about King Charles that I don't and my audience may not know?

54:41Are you a fan? No. Talk to me about King Charles. I think he's terribly deluded. Because you've had your eye on him longer than I have. I just think he's just sort of weak and deluded and had people around him. It was part of this thing, again, because he's my generation, isn't he? A bit older than me. But people in my generation somehow thought that they had to rebel against Victorian stuff that wasn't really there. and he probably saw his mother as a big Victorian and they felt sort of like cool and the only way they could be cool, especially these rather weedy men, though he plays, he's a horse rider and everything, he's not that weedy, but he seems weedy.

55:23They had to do this rebellion and the rebellion had to be against anything that was in old-fashioned moral, old-fashioned behaviour. So it took him slewing into this world of what I call moral relativism, which is why he can embrace Islam like that without realising that it is not a virtuous religion by comparison with Christianity. Is there anything underhand you've noticed about him? No, I would think he's more that he's manipulated. Compromised? I don't know about compromise. I think there's a class of people, of educated people in this country who really think it's wrong to, they've become anti-Christian and they think it's wrong not to respect other religions.

56:11King Charles certainly respects other religions, doesn't he? Yeah, he really respects Islam. He seems to respect it above Christianity. I'd love to know why. I mean, there's people who say... I think it might be psychological against his mother because his mother was deeply religious. I mean, I don't know whether you know, she had a long interview with Billy Graham and she was more evangelical than people realised. Her religion was very important to her. Ah, so you think King Charles could have mummy issues? Oh, definitely. Wouldn't you? Oh, I'd like to know your take on it, being a mum. Well, she wasn't there for him, was she, ever.

56:43You know, it's again a bit like Margaret Thatcher. She was a great woman in her own right, but she wasn't there for her own children. Her children came second. Right. Her career, being Queenie, came first. She thought she had to as duty. That was indoctrinated into her. And then, of course, her husband was a bit of an alpha male. You know, Prince Philip, he was a very, very young commander, a naval commander in the Second World War. You know, I think he was gunning down U-boats. I think he was a successful naval commander, wasn't he, at a very, very young age? He was a hell of a character, weren't he?

57:15He was a hell of a... But he was out there doing that warrior stuff. Yes. He was one of the last warriors and a bit of a naughty boy too, from quite a character. But so, and I think he, yes, so he has this warrior father who he's scared of probably and a mother who's distant. It's probably enough. I don't know. He's certainly not the person, especially now you've said all that and that's put a lot of things into perspective, he's certainly not the person I'd actually want as my king. It's a shame that he is. I don't want him as my king. No, he's not our king. No, which is a pity because I was pro-monarchy up until, But even the Queen let me down on, she was being bullied into it, on telling people they were selfish if they didn't get vaccinated.

57:55Then my heart dropped. Then my heart dropped. She was being used. Like Tony Blair used her before over Princess Diana. They're dreadful. That's wise. Where can people find you and your work? Oh, right. And we'll put all these links. You're very kind. We'll put them all in the description. I think they'll all be unfollowing me rapidly. They won't. They'll love it. They'll be unfollowing me. Because now they know you like hairy chests. Hairy chests, muscly arms. Bald heads. Bald heads. I'm on, what am I on? X. I'm on X. I'm at Cathy Con Wom, which everyone laughs about saying I'm a con artist, but never mind, I'm not.

58:35I'm very, very direct. Then I edit the website called TCW, standing for The Conservative Woman, TCW, Defending Freedom, because we tagged on the defending freedom over lockdown and COVID. And we were very early out of the traps on knowing that we were being taken the wrong way over that. And that's when the website got, we got cancelled off iPhones. I got, we got demonetised. I got knocked off Twitter, it was then. Took me a while to get back on X once X came back. So I'm on X and the website is www.conservativewoman.co.uk. Well, I know if you type in the conservative woman, you'll be found, but I'll put the exact link in the description.

59:26Do they have a dot after three W's? I can't remember. I'm honestly, I'm so just, I'm not. You know I don't read. You don't read. You're no use. No. And before we finish, is there anything else you'd like to say to them? What would your final message to the masses be? I think women have got to wind their necks in. I think we've got to learn to genuinely love children more and love them to the point that we love them enough to tell them where they're going right and wrong and to take back control from the state over our children. I think without that, we're doomed. we're doomed and if you agree with Cathy and think we're doomed and we need to do a little bit more please like and subscribe to the channel so I can keep bringing wonderful guests like Cathy on and do go and follow her work I'll put all the links in the description stay safe at home, love each other and love to you and thank you for coming all this way it's been a year in the making and I'm so glad you come on thank you Liam, you're so kind thank you agent you're an angel

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