In short
The episode centers on “Spartan Child Protection Team,” an online “predator hunting” group that uses de-identified decoy accounts to befriend adult suspects and collect evidence, plus the host’s broader claims about institutional cover-ups involving police, social services, and high-profile UK sex offenders.
Guests and backgrounds
The main guest is Alex (also described as an ex-Royal Marine and founder of Spartan Child Protection Team). Liam is the interviewer/host. Alex says he operates with strict legal parameters and has prior criminal charges related to a sting (Scott Barr).
Key claims
Alex argues that authorities under-prosecute child sexual abuse, misclassify offenses, and sometimes return children to abusers. He claims “true numbers” are higher than official statistics and that grooming/institutional abuse inquiries can’t be fully transparent without indicting many civil servants and police.
Notable examples
Alex recounts being convicted of abduction/robbery/assault in a case involving Scott Barr; discusses Jimmy Savile’s alleged protection by powerful figures (including claims about Margaret Thatcher and Broadmoor/Rampton access); and cites alleged abuse at the Furnithi respite home (Dundee/Angus) and ongoing claims about Catholic Church abuse. He also mentions Prince Andrew as “not innocent” and references “Roblox” as a platform risk.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Dark Side of Society
0:30 to 1:24
Exploring the graphic and disturbing realities of child abuse and neglect.
“When there's nothing left to want, they go to the dark side.”
Child Protection Team Introduction
1:25 to 2:24
Introduction to the Spartan Child Protection Team and their mission.
“Children went to police officers for help and police officers raped them in the back of police cars.”
Founding the Child Protection Team
2:53 to 4:51
Discussion about the inception and motivation behind the Spartan Child Protection Team.
“For people that don't know, explain exactly what it is that you do.”
Hunting Predators: The Process
4:52 to 7:11
Detailed explanation of how predator hunting operations are conducted.
“and go right down the rabbit hole, which opened up everything that I now do.”
Legal Implications of Predator Hunting
7:12 to 9:30
Insights into the legal complexities of catching predators and avoiding entrapment.
“That's the very beginning of your evidence.”
Personal Motivation and Background
9:31 to 11:21
Exploration of personal experiences that drive the mission against child predators.
“which saw me criminally indicted for abduction by holding a paedophile against his will for 30 minutes until the police arrived to arrest him.”
Traumatic Childhood Experience
11:22 to 14:01
A harrowing personal story that highlights the importance of child safety.
“I can be sitting watching a chat and say, he's going to turn right now, he's going to say this, he's going to do that, he's going to do it.”
A Disturbing Encounter
14:01 to 15:17
Hear an account of a harrowing experience that changed the speaker's perspective.
Reflections on Forgiveness
15:18 to 17:22
The speaker reflects on their past choices and the importance of standing up for others.
“And then something happened and I really started to think about it.”
The Impact of Authority Figures
17:23 to 19:26
Discussing the lasting effects of authority figures on children and their psyche.
“But then when the child leaves school and they're an adult, but they bump into that teacher again, they go straight back to that child again and they feel like that's the dynamic still.”
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Examining Jimmy Savile
19:27 to 21:38
An in-depth discussion about the notorious figure Jimmy Savile and his influence.
“Push the boundaries, can I get away with it?”
The Dark Secrets of Savile's Network
21:39 to 24:01
Exploring the connections and protections that enabled Savile's predatory behavior.
“Because amongst some people on television, and in other places like the hospitals that he represented.”
Predators in Plain Sight
24:02 to 28:00
A chilling analysis of how predators operate without detection, highlighting Savile's tactics.
“Prominent figures That weren't just complicit But were also active In that paedophilic activity?”
The Dark Actions of Epstein
28:00 to 28:59
Discussion on the notorious actions of Epstein and societal complicity.
“Even the decent people knew what he was doing and they were so terrified of him and the power that he had that the entire nation looked the other way.”
Exploring Epstein's Darkness
30:00 to 39:58
Deep dive into Epstein's life, behaviors, and connections to darker elements.
“When you've got everything and you've got more money than you could ever spend in 10 lifetimes, there is nothing left to want.”
Corruption in Law and Society
39:59 to 42:01
Examination of legal corruption and the failings of the justice system regarding child protection.
“So what separates you from other predator hunters?”
Indicting Complicity in Abuse
42:01 to 45:34
Discussion on systemic failures and the need for accountability in abuse cases.
“thousands and thousands of civil servants, criminally indict them.”
The Scale of Abuse and Its Impact
46:07 to 53:09
Exploring the extent of abuse cases and their lasting effects on victims.
“I hope it answers every single question and gives every victim that was groomed, raped, trafficked, sold, prostituted, whatever you want to call it, drugged, killed.”
Challenges of Being an Advocate
53:10 to 56:01
Personal reflections on the toll that advocacy work takes on mental health.
“they live in the dark I'm trying hard to live in the light I want to be the solution I want to be part of the solution How do you keep yourself sane?”
The Dark Side of Social Services
56:01 to 58:08
Explore the corruption and dark realities within social services and child protection.
“Everybody's a hard man on a phone or over a keyboard.”
Failures in Child Welfare Systems
58:09 to 1:01:50
Discuss the various systemic failures in the child welfare and protection systems.
“who are former social workers that want to tell me everything about how that, and I've got a pretty vast knowledge of it anyway.”
Misleading Crime Statistics
1:01:51 to 1:03:29
Critique the inaccuracies in crime statistics and their implications for public perception.
“because it lists them in a certain category but it doesn't list people that have just been removed, their time's just up, their case is spent.”
The Reality of Online Dangers
1:04:23 to 1:10:01
Understand the severe dangers children face online, highlighting specific apps and predators.
“I think it's in way worse shape than you realise, than our mate realises.”
Understanding Online Predators' Tactics
1:10:01 to 1:12:08
Learn about how predators use various apps to exploit children online.
“So the safeguarding that parents can implement has a level of protection, but they can still find ways around it with other types of conversation and lead your child to another platform.”
The Scale of the Epidemic
1:12:09 to 1:12:45
Explore the alarming prevalence of online predation against children.
“Even the safest ones are filled with predators.”
Justice and Accountability Issues
1:12:46 to 1:14:15
Examine the failings in the justice system regarding child exploitation cases.
“A diabolical crime against the child Why have they only got 18 months?”
Facing Scrutiny in Anti-Predator Work
1:14:16 to 1:17:02
Discuss the criticism faced by those combatting child predation and its implications.
Debating the Efficacy of Proposed Solutions
1:17:03 to 1:21:46
Analyze the practicality of new initiatives aimed at protecting women and children.
“Because we need to exterminate paedophiles.”
The Personal Cost of Advocacy
1:21:47 to 1:24:00
Hear about the personal sacrifices made by advocates in the fight against predation.
“There's no one more than me and definitely you that would love for his model to work.”
Personal Sacrifices for a Greater Cause
1:24:00 to 1:28:45
Learn about the sacrifices made for a cause and the importance of community support.
“And, you know, other people that have been in my life have suffered as a result.”
Transcript
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0:57streaming on Disney+. Rape PG-13. Children, it's the last taboo. When there's nothing left to want, they go to the dark side. The absolute most graphic, vile stuff that a human being could do to a kid. Groomed, raped, trafficked, sold, drugged, killed. This is a sex offender. Who should have been on that list? They all knew and looked the other way. Thousands of police officers, thousands of social workers, chiefs of police. They handed children back to abusers. Children went to police officers for help and police officers raped them in the back of police cars. The true numbers are terrifying.
1:33The numbers that they document are lies. The knife statistics are lies. The sexual assaults are now being recorded as common assaults. They've removed groping. I caught an 81-year-old man talking to 10, 12-year-old girls. I got 120 hours community service for catching a paedophile and he got a suspended sentence because he was of good character all his life. And I also think that the leader of this country at this moment in time has got very dark tendencies. So what do you think Stam is guilty of?
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3:00Alex. Liam. You're doing God's work. Spartan Child Protection Team. Talk to me about that team. The bane of my life. The bane of your life. Yeah. Stressful. Yeah, it's stressful. Traumatic. Very. I bet. Never ending. For people that don't know, explain exactly what it is that you do. I founded an online child protection team through watching some other of the long established teams in the UK, Fleetwood Enforcers teams. Teams like that have been around quite a long time. People would also know these as predator hunting. Predator hunting teams, yeah. And it was always in my head. I just, you know, it was just something that I kept looking at and I couldn't unsee it.
3:48I loved what they did. I loved the passion that some of them had. And I wanted to do my own thing because I thought Scotland was kind of lacking any type of resistance to that kind of problem. And I wanted to be part of the solution.
4:08And I wanted to try and live in a way that age catches up with you and I wanted to try and live kind of decently and try and do something different with my life and give a little bit back and use my skill set and my kind of street smarts, my savvy to, you know, put a dent in the problem. And I'm pretty good at solving problems. So, yeah, I founded the team and started from the bottom and very quickly it gained quite considerable momentum and I got my head really into it. I've always been very obsessive about things and I just felt compelled to dive in with both feet and go right down the rabbit hole, which opened up everything that I now do.
4:59It's grown arms and legs in every direction. It's not just a hunting team anymore. And it's just entirely consumed my life. How would you hunt your first predator? How would you even begin to catch these monsters out? So you'll have a female or a male, you know, over a certain age, 21, 18 And they call themselves decoys? Decoys And you will use a little bit of software and you will make that adult look quite considerably younger So it doesn't work for everybody, the software You know, I can look at accounts and I can generally tell it's a decoy. There's little tells, but I would never... Reveal.
5:45No. No. So you will de-age them and then you will build a profile, an account that goes back, you know, pictures, photographs, family events linked to other possible decoys or, you know, you'll have a friends list that will look authentic should anybody take a look. and these people do look so it has to be authentic it has to pass because although some of the people we catch are considered the low hanging fruit you know, in the spectrum of paedophilia they're not all stupid some of them are very, very intelligent and highly cunning these people know that we exist so they're always trying to evade capture they know we're out there I've got paedophiles that I've got that follow my page They pop up in my live chats How did you catch me?
6:36Wow It's happened several times So they know we exist They know who we are They certainly know who I am And Obviously their gratification has to be Serviced regularly So the last thing they want is not to have that So they don't want to be caught So they're extremely cagey So when you set that account up You present it online and you do nothing Liam You put it online you do nothing. You just wait. Doesn't take long. Incoming friends requests. They're captured straight away, screenshotted before you accept them. That's the very beginning of your evidence. Is this how you avoid entrapment? Yes. They have to add you.
7:18Right. You can't add anyone or the Crown or Bennett. So from the legal side, how does the order of correspondence have to go? Incoming friends request, screenshot, save to a G drive, boom, Right into the drive, save it. Every single message and image has to be captured without a break in it. You can't have a break in it because that's where you could be leading a conversation or setting someone up. Okay. So does the decoy message first or does the decoy wait for the adult people? The decoy does nothing. You could accept that friend's request and sit for three months and then one night a message will come in.
7:52Hi. And that's when you know you've got them? Generally. The very next message could be a live masturbation video. Happens all the time The very next message from high Some of them just go right in for the jugular As brutally as that They don't care Fucking hell Because in their heads they're not going to get caught Why do you think they think they're not going to get caught? Apart from narcissism and A percentage of them are reckless A percentage of them are just so Conditioned by impulse That they don't have a threshold They can't Control it No, they're out of control and they're walking freely among us.
8:33So, I mean, recently there, we had a guy that every single night was just live masturbation videos constantly. Unsolicited as well. Not a care in the world. Not a care in the world. I suppose if the decoy makes a request, then that's when entrapment comes into play if it was to go to court. A good defence lawyer will destroy a case like that if you've done anything that can be considered leading. Yeah. So you can't do it. It does happen with inexperienced decoys and people that haven't been trained correctly. Thankfully, I had the blessing of some of the very best people that I consider in the UK, one in particular, you know, who had my back from the beginning in regards to keeping me right.
9:19And the only other time that I fell foul, which we'll get to, was when I operated out with my quite strict parameters in one particular case that's come into a conclusion in January which saw me criminally indicted for abduction by holding a paedophile against his will for 30 minutes until the police arrived to arrest him. I was also done for robbery and assault by removing his phone from his person and handing it to the police. And that stuck. I was found guilty of abduction Wow Well you say you go for the low hanging fruit But the police aren't getting them The fact that they're available for you to capture Means that they're not that low hanging I mean I suppose the police's Incompetence or lack of resources Is the reason Predator Hunters exist Yes what you're saying is right But the police Are so used to dealing with me now That the conversation has loosened up.
10:21Are they grateful for you now? Some are. They're not all fans. Definitely not. I've got history with the police. I wasn't always a fan. I'm still not a fan. Some of them are very decent. Some of them are not very decent. But we meet each other in the middle. They know I'm not going away. They know I'm very good at what I do. I'm very, very passionate about it. I consider myself good at it. I understand it. I've got an abundance of natural intuition How to catch these people That nobody can teach me Not everybody's blessed with that I've always been able to see danger coming My whole life I can just smell it Well you're ex-Royal Marine as well Which we can either discuss or not later down the line But just so people know that you've come from the streets And you're ex-Royal Marine So you're no one's fault So your sixth sense I would trust over most people's I rely on it massively.
11:21I can put the jigsaw together so quick. I know what they're going to do next. I can be sitting watching a chat and say, he's going to turn right now, he's going to say this, he's going to do that, he's going to do it. I just know. And I wish I was this good at a skill in life that paid me really well. You know, I happen to be really good at something that doesn't reward me in any way other than give me satisfaction. And what is the driving force? Did something happen to you when you were younger that made you think, I want these animals off the planet? Yeah. When I was a young guy, I was a very good swimmer.
11:55I remember winning a trophy of sorts and I won a competition, like an inter-county competition. I won quite a few. I was quite a good swimmer. Diving competitions and stuff in the mid to late 80s. And... Star Wars, The Mandalorian and Grogu is now streaming on Disney+. What are you waiting for? Hop on. The must-see galactic adventure comes home on Disney+. This is the way. Our only chance is to work together. I like this kid. Always wear your seatbelt. Star Wars The Mandalorian and Grogu. Now streaming on Disney+. Read PG-13. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.
12:46Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. I was told to stay back for a photograph. Now this is the most I've ever spoke about this And I'll never speak about it again after today I was told to stay back for a photograph For the local rag paper Was this in the 1990s? It would be around 88, 788 So I know what age I was Yeah The changing rooms in the local leisure centre have never changed And there was six cubicles with blue curtains And there was all metal keys in the locks and I was in there because I was a very introverted shy young boy at that time and I didn't like anybody seeing me getting changed it's just the way I was and I was waiting to get shouted out to get a photograph taken but there was nobody there silence which was unusual and I could see the outline of somebody through the gap in the curtain and I was like that just looking and anyway the curtain opened and he told me to get out the cubicle that's all and I grabbed my clothes that were on the little bench and whatever I had which would have been a rolled up towel you used to roll them up and put them under your arm or put them in a Tesco bag and walk home and he pressed me against the wall and raked my sides with his nails Sunk his fingers into you Right into my back And pulled me And pressed me again And he went He said something along the lines of You know You'll need to try harder than that And he kept doing this So You know I'm a wee guy I'm trying to And it was all over in the blink of an eye It was maybe a tiny little bit more than that I don't really want to say Just a little bit more Nothing too bad but enough for me to know exactly what it was that was happening.
15:15And the line was crossed. Without a doubt. Now, I never gave it any thought, Liam, for most of my life. And then something happened and I really started to think about it. Now, I know this person. They're not alive now. They're deceased. You confronted him before he died, didn't you? Yes. I knew this person all my life and it would never even be a thing for him. He walked by me in the street and asked me how he was doing with some type of grin on his face. This is a guy that I could have buttered toast with, even on my worst day, and I chose not to
15:55because there was another side to a family that were very decent to me. So I left it and that's what made me extremely angry. Because I gave him a pass. I've never gave anybody a pass. And I gave him a pass. And then I swore. When I actually sat and had a think about it, I said I'll never give anyone a pass as long as I live. For other people, Liam. Because my opportunity's gone. I get that. So I can now do something for people that don't have my temperament. That maybe are not naturally capable people. that don't have a voice, that maybe just don't have the stomach for dealing with things. Not everybody's brash and a break, you know, not everyone's capable of just going out on the pavement and having a dust up.
16:49That's not what I want to be doing, but if I was pressed and cornered, of course I would. You get what I mean? I want to give people something that they can't find a way out of their problems. This is why I can relate to you so well, because where I've overcome my adversity and I've come out, as far as I'm concerned, unscathed. I'm sure I've got some deep-rooted issues in there, but I work on myself quite regular. But I feel compelled to pass my baton of strength to somebody else that hasn't got that baton yet. So I totally and utterly concur and relate. And it's funny, what people don't realise is, or maybe they do if I say this out loud, you've got a teacher at school and you're a kid and their loud booming voice, it affects you when you're a child and you've always got that adult-child relationship.
17:38But then when the child leaves school and they're an adult, but they bump into that teacher again, they go straight back to that child again and they feel like that's the dynamic still. So I know the power of when a man does something to a child, that it cuts shit sticks. Definitely. It never bothered me, Liam. No, until you really thought about it. Until I really thought about it. Yeah. And I mean I walked by this guy a million times And I would ask him how he was And he'd go alright Alex I'd go how you doing They've also got a knack about them He was a fairly well liked guy Typical Pair of the community I joined the Royal Marines at 18 And then I was a bit of a different Kind of person Where I'm from It's a rough little place you know And there's a few rough characters in it And I fitted in quite well with that And you know And I was involved in the pubs I was here and there You know Bit of a torag And He knew That I was more than capable Of just Taking him right off the numbers But I just I never gave it that much thought Although I knew I'd never really put it all together And it never bothered me Because back then things like that just happened and there were opportunists everywhere and the more I think about it you know I could tag several people with the same label, I found a bit of clarity, maybe I stopped drinking a long time ago, maybe I've got a wee bit of clarity back, maybe a few brain cells have regenerated and I start to go wait a minute, that was something else now that I think about it.
19:24Yeah, a lot of these animals operate in plain sight. It's kind of part of their thing. Push the boundaries, can I get away with it? Push it a little bit further. The whole getting off on doing it in plain sight is not unusual, is it? It's much easier to do it in plain sight, Liam, than not get caught. Yeah. See, when you try and hide it, that's when you get caught easier. The little telltale signs you can spot. Look at the footage on top of the pops of Savile putting his fingers inside young teenage girls on the stage in front of millions of viewers. That's exactly what he was doing there. Who would ever think to say, I know what you're doing up there?
20:08He knew there was little girls everywhere. No one knows what his hands are doing. And then you see her jumping out her skin. Yeah, and the thing is, I mean, the whole Jimmy Savile thing, it blows my mind. It should. Because when someone says the word paedophile, even before the whole scandal was published, Jimmy Savile's face would be a face that I would associate with paedophilia. I mean, he looks exactly what he was. A necrophilic fucking sex case. Worse. Yeah, vile. Worse. Have you gone down a rabbit hole on him? All the way to the bottom. What was the bottom? What depths did he reach? What lows?
20:47He had tentacles in every single dark corridor of the British establishment. And he had dirt on everybody. Everybody. That's how he controlled them. Blackmail. He didn't need to blackmail them. He knew that they knew what he knew. Emotional blackmail. He didn't have to say a word. He just had to keep doing what he was doing. Invite all those coppers from his area up to his mum's flat once a week for tea and Viscounts and, you know, chalky bickies and have the conversation. and he was so incredibly protected by people in the highest positions in the UK. Margaret Thatcher protected him the day she died.
21:31She campaigned endlessly for to have him knighted. Endlessly. And there was resistance to Jimmy Savile being knighted and for very good reason. Because amongst some people on television, and in other places like the hospitals that he represented. There were decent people that knew exactly what he was, but they were so terrified of his power. I would say at the time he was probably outwith the monarchy and the Prime Minister, he would have been one of the most powerful men in British history. That's how powerful he was. Which is insane to think because I thought he was a charmless pig. When we were very young We thought he was amazing on top of the pops Because we didn't know any better Because we were 8 or 9 years of age My mum used to come in and turn the telly off When he was on it She knew 30 odd years ago You're not watching him Do you think Margaret Thatcher knew Jimmy Savile was a nuns?
22:32Without a doubt You couldn't not know Everybody knew Yeah Everybody knew You couldn't exist In any way, shape or form as a known person and not know what he was doing. This was a man that had keys to morgues and was found dozens of times in morgues. This was a man that had keys to the most clinically insane, mentally disturbed people in British institutions like Broadmoor and Rampton. You know, this was a guy that navigated and migrated his way to the very top people in these institutions with a hand, the handshake of charitable contributions. I can get you a million quid. A million quid in charity was unheard of until Jimmy Savile pulled it out of the bag.
23:35And he'd done it many times over. He raised fortunes. Were there big figures you know of that were complicit in his debauchery? Absolutely. Everybody They all were Everybody knew Everybody knew He was a marriage confidant To Charles and Diana He gave them marriage counselling Jimmy Savile was never married Where was he qualified? A man that stayed with his mummy's entire life Yeah, that's a hell of a point And do you know of any Prominent figures That weren't just complicit But were also active In that paedophilic activity? Yeah, I've got a dossier On Savile Handwritten by myself with everything in it.
24:14Everything I've ever found, I've documented. Is there anything you can put in concrete that's not going to get a lawsuit given to you? Because that's the problem when you go against power. I don't give a shit about power. No, I know. I've got nothing that they can take. They can have the body warmer off my back, but that's about all they're going to get. I don't care about that. Is there anyone that needs to be looked into further then? I'll word it like that. Off the back of your investigation on Savile. See, I've tried to stop going back the way, right? Because certain people today with really prominent platforms have built platforms talking about historic stuff and all they do is go on to other podcasts and regurgitate the same stuff over and over and over again.
24:58now they get hero worshipped by the British public until I write a comment like okay, give me one piece of information that this person's whistle blowing on there's a hint that wasn't already public domain information I'll wait because I know the answer is you won't because naming Cyril Smith, Leon Britton you know, Savo, Ted Heath naming these people was public domain long before this person named them but they'll go, oh but he's a whistleblower he told us about Jimmy Savile, no he never he told us about the grooming gangs, no he never he told us about no he never, and every single time I can checkmate them and no one's ever came back at me but yet, I've had words with him I waited a year for information to be sent from him I have the voice notes promising me lists high establishment you know people that basically will procure children all sorts of information and it never came See I've never ever discussed Jimmy Savile on this platform not once it's strange how we've gone down this avenue because it is Made a full day Yeah it's very dark well it's it doesn't get much darker is there anything that you can expose here and now that hasn't been put out there yet about Savile?
26:23Yeah probably another 500 people That never Took part in Operation Utrey Who should have been on that list In your opinion? Esther Ranson Really? 100 % What makes you think that? Not that I'm doubting it for one second Just curious Because I've never gone down a rabbit hole You just think if there's an operation They've got it under control But also I should know better than that Because there's always a cover up This is a culture This was a culture Across multiple constabularies in the north of England it's just Jimmy being Jimmy you know he's a bit touchy feely he's a bit hands on while trying to you know rape nurses in broom cupboards and groping disabled children while conducting a marathon round a hospital and they knew exactly where the cameras were stationed and every so often he had a black window where he couldn't see anything and that was the little bit he ran himself and two or three times during that marathon that he ran in the hospital grounds he jumped through a ground floor window and seriously assaulted, sexually assaulted a disabled child dying in a bed because everybody else was out front clapping for him.
27:46That was how his mind worked. He's one of the most dangerous predators in British history because if you've got thousands of people at the front of a building clapping for you and you've got the cockles or the minerals to jump through a window and for 30 or 40 seconds, you know, brutalise a child inserting your fingers into them and forcing your fingers down their mouth to make them vomit, sticking your tongue in their throats, this was a man that was completely and utterly insatiable. He was out of control. And that's what he did. That's documented. That happened. It's not up for debate. Everybody knew what he was doing.
28:30Even the decent people knew what he was doing and they were so terrified of him and the power that he had that the entire nation looked the other way. So who was he really? Now, today we're talking about Epstein and who is he. We will never know who he was. And I've read all the crap and I've read all the good stuff and I've got a theory but we will never truly know who he was Star Wars The Mandalorian and Grogu is now streaming on Disney Plus What are you waiting for? Hop on The must-see galactic adventure comes home on Disney Plus This is the way Our only chance is to work together I like this kid Always wear your seatbelt Star Wars, The Mandalorian and Grogu.
29:23Now streaming on Disney+. Read PG-13. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. What's your theory on Epstein? When you've got everything and you've got more money than you could ever spend in 10 lifetimes, there is nothing left to want.
30:11So you go to the darkness. My theory is they all go to the darkness eventually. because they've had everything else in abundance. The yachts, the supermodels, the mansions, the homes in Monaco. When there's nothing left to want, they go to the dark side. Children, it's the last taboo. So are you of the mindset that the high-ranking Freemasons, that's their thing as well? Freemasonry and Masons and stuff like that is something I don't really talk about. For some reason, I've not got a great interest in it. in fact a couple of weeks ago a guy from Glasgow in TikTok out in Tenerife called me a Freemason my mate sent me it laughing because he knows him and I was like what I know about that I could write in the back of a stamp maybe I know a little bit more about it but there are dark satanic elements in all sorts of things, black magic wizardry, hocus pocus in every single institution, in every single you know, one of these entities has documented paedophilic occurrences within them.
31:24It doesn't matter where you look, Liam, we are surrounded by it. The reason being, the easiest commodity on earth to exploit is children. Children are the most vulnerable members of society who don't know how to defend themselves. Do you think we've got paedophiles in Parliament? Of course we have. Anyone you suspect?
31:49Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And I also think that the leader of this country at this moment in time has got very dark tendencies in regards to his sexuality. I would say that you wouldn't have to have the brains of an archbishop to put the pieces together and work out what's going on there. Body language is a great tell. There's some things you just can't hide So what do you think Starr was guilty of? Well I don't think he's heterosexual But that's not a crime But where the waters do become murky Is how you behave Or maybe more importantly How you procure your gratification sexually When you've got young Ukrainian men Firebombing things and stuff like that there's a precursor there that went very quiet of course it did because the press in London are controlled and they get NDA'd they get slapped up with NDAs and they basically
32:55London is a lawn to itself what's London? 50 odd boroughs something like that it's a lawn to itself I don't want to jump about too much and lose track Andrew Windsor as he's now known a deplorable human being no famine with him everything is a feast for him watch his interview with Emily Maitland five or six times I've probably watched it two or three hundred times without a lie yeah what did you think about that? well I've actually got my own one that I'm going to put out soon and it'll be worth a watch and I'll show you all the tells and I'll show you every time he slips up and once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
33:40I can't believe there's people that actually think Prince Andrew is innocent of all the accusations. No, he's definitely not innocent. And if you watch the very beginning of the interview when he tells her, hmm, he was a plus one, I mean, it would be a stretch to say we were good friends but he had to go and stay with him for four days to break up a friendship with somebody that wasn't a good friend and fly halfway across the world and stay with a convicted sex offender that he also invited to his daughter's 18th birthday party after conviction, then lied to the woman's face that he'd never spoke to him again, but we now have the emails.
34:16Compulsive liar, born liar, a dangerous, horrible human being that has been neck deep in the trough at every single level. And there was a time that I would have said, he's doing all sorts, But I don't think he's a paedophile 15 Makes you a paedophile 100 % And I'm not convinced That he didn't just Enjoy everything It will Possibly come out in the wash one day When I put this together And it's just ready to go I'll let you watch it See what you think And when you see the tails You cannot unsee them They're very easy to miss No I know exactly what you mean Once you see something, you can't unsee it.
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35:05He throws himself under the bus. Yeah. Every single time. And it is so blatant to me. My head was in fire when I watched that the first time because I knew what I was looking at. I was like, this is a sex offender. I've met hundreds of you. Yeah. You're a sex offender. He couldn't hide it because you just can't hide it when you're overwhelmed in the moment. They all fall apart eventually, even the best ones when we're sticking a phone in their face. You just need to know how to press their buttons. You know, think you're giving them a road out and then you get them. Make them comfortable. Don't go in six guns blazing, it doesn't work.
35:52How do you make sure you stay within the law but as tight as possible? And I also want to know why it's so important to you for exposing government corruption. So it's two in one because I know that you have to fly within the law, but I also know that you like exposing corruption, particularly the government. Yeah, that's almost became as important as catching lone groomers that are targeting children on platforms like Roblox, for instance, which we could do a little couple of minutes on. Definitely. Any cautionary tale for parents who think it will never happen to them? Yeah, we'll cover Roblox at the end because it's good information.
36:34100%. So how do you keep within the perimeters of the law? Okay, so I study everything and I set my parameters very tight. Now, the one time where we pursued, I can name him Scott Barr, who had me indicted for abduction. We pursued him with a vehicle, me and my co-accused, and we caught him. He put his car into a field. He was drunk, cocaine, horrible, horrible human being. Grooming an 11-year-old child, he was 28 or 29 at the time. You know, 120, 130 mile an hour car chase. We had to slow down. He just kept going through red lights. We caught up with him. The fog was really bad, so he had to slow down.
37:17That was on our side that night. And it was a crazy, you know, he was just gone. Then we would see him. And then we got, it was because he was on a country road. Anyway, we got him. and months later my lawyer calls me police are looking for you you need to come down to Glasgow apprehension warrant was in and out doing weekenders multiple times because they gave me bail conditions that he didn't get I wasn't allowed an iPhone for a year sex offenders got those conditions I wasn't allowed to direct Spartan Child Protection Team for a year over a year I got more conditions than he got and he had multiple offences for sexually exploiting a child and I got more conditions than him.
38:00I also breached my bail by catching, by conducting two live stings while I was on bail. I directed a lot of other stuff while I was on bail but I went specifically because two guys popped up in my radar that I'd been after for a long time and I went and grabbed them there and then. So I was also done for that and I got a community payback order, 120 hours community service. Did that make the press? It was in the front pages of all the national papers in Scotland. There must have been outrage. And Barr's never been in the paper. Don Keith shared it in America and it went viral. Well, rightly so.
38:36When you're doing God's work and you're getting community service for it, that's fucking outrageous. Yeah. I was getting quotes of£20 ,000 for legal representation because I don't qualify for legal aid. No wonder you've got mixed feelings about the police. Makes you wonder which and whose side they're on. Yeah. The Crown, the justice system, the judiciary are the problem. The Fisco in Scotland, the CPS in England, they are the problem. Law, justice is for the poor. If you've got money, you'll be fine. Barristership, King's Council, you'll be fine. In a petition case or a summary case, you'll be fine.
39:15If you can't afford it and you've got legal aid, you're going to be on the receiving end of a bad decision. you're going to lose. You're in a courtroom with six legally trained entities in front of you and you don't know legalese or legal speak. So they've already got you on the back foot. That's how a courtroom works. I know there's mixed reviews on predator hunters. There is. So I want to know if you can try and be non-biased the pros and cons of predator hunters but also what separates your team from an ordinary predator hunter group. Because you operate differently, don't you? Very differently.
39:54I mean, with your military background, for example, you are going to operate in a professional manner and you're not going to be reckless. So what separates you from other predator hunters? We're probably one of the smallest teams in the UK. Very insular. I'm a very complex person, Liam. I don't mind saying that. I'm a difficult person to be around. for the past four or five years I've probably not been a very good version of myself because I'm completely and utterly consumed by this and it's not waning that passion grows every day I'm more into it every day and I'm further down the rabbit hole every day because there are so many avenues and I open doors constantly I'm looking at law I'm looking at legal I'm looking at cases you know really high profile cases I'm looking at misrepresentation I'm looking at malfeasance by the courts I'm looking at cases that were handled diabolically you know Samina Halliwell Rachel Halliwell her mum's on X that case was horrific the way it was handled by Merseyside Police I'm looking at you know we know we know the big names in the UK in regards to the grooming gangs for instance Samantha Woodhouse you know the girls that are on X just now Fiona Goddard there's people coming out and they're starting to get traction which is right because they've never had a voice they've been failed massively now we've got inquiries going on which from day one I've had a very bad feeling about and I was very vocal about it and it didn't suit everybody and people probably don't like my opinion but I know that these inquiries will be a white elephant.
41:47I know that they will, and I'll explain why. They cannot conduct an inquiry correctly with 100 % transparency, Liam. They can't do it. For what reason? Because if they do, they will have to criminally indict thousands and thousands of civil servants, criminally indict them. I'm talking about potentially thousands of police officers potentially thousands of social workers case workers everybody they're going to have to criminally indict all of them the system would collapse because these people were all complicit because we have the documented evidence with the NCA that they all knew and looked the other way chiefs of police inspectors top level social workers Everybody looked away They handed children back to abusers Thousands of times They handed them back Children went to police officers For help and police officers Raped them in the back of police cars Knowing that they were vulnerable This happened in the UK In the last 25, 30 years In the last 10 years It's still happening So they can't Conduct, it's very simple Liam They cannot conduct a grooming gang inquiry the way I would conduct it.
43:18Now I asked to be part of Rupert's and I never even got a reply. I won't put myself up for much, right? I'm not the most intelligent person in the world but I'll put myself right up front for that because I know that I will leave no stone unturned and I'm scared from nobody nor am I scared from reprisal or finger wagging or name calling or slander. And I'm also, most importantly, I'm not scared of making a mistake. And I would dig until I can dig no more. And I will also say that I'm deeply worried about people that are on it because if it goes wrong and it doesn't satisfy the public's demand, certain people will be thrown under the bus and blamed in a roundabout way without doing it directly the blame will say well this person conducted it and if I think for a minute that something like that might happen to a Samantha Woodhouse for instance I'll go for the jugular of the people that really got it wrong and I don't mean where I post on X I'll do it face to face because I've got a voice and I really hope that people are not thrown under the bus when this goes wrong and it won't achieve anything and I touch wood I truly hope I'm wrong I hope in 18 months time you're saying you called that one wrong and I hope it serves its purpose I cannot see it in any way, shape or form.
45:35This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. Well, at least you've got the conviction to say, I hope I get something wrong. Absolutely. I hope I get it wrong. I hope it answers every single question and gives every victim that was groomed, raped, trafficked, sold, prostituted, whatever you want to call it, drugged, killed.
46:27answers injustice and I hope all of their names are documented and that's only who comes forward because thousands of girls won't come forward because of shame and blame and the way that they were handled as children and police stations, Liam. And they won't want their children now in a lot of room. Of course they won't. And that's the tragedy in all of this. We're never going to get the full scale of it. We know the scale's horrific but that's only what we know about, Liam. We don't know the true scale. The true scale could be in the millions, it could be a million girls in the UK over a 20, 30 year period that were systematically groomed and raped by men, by paedophiles, of which there are tens of thousands still at liberty that have never been indicted, never seen a courtroom.
47:20Before we go on to platforms and places that parents need to be aware of, that they probably never even considered would be a danger zone. Kind of really to shock parents into waking up and just being mindful that don't think it won't happen to you because everyone thinks that until it does. What's the worst case of abuse that you've had to deal with? Or one of the worst cases? One of the worst. So many. That's heartbreaking. Oh, it's endless. The fact your first answer is there's so many is heartbreaking. There's too many. I've got one going on just now that just popped up. It's just recent last week popped up.
48:08It's the church. It's the Catholic church. That's a horrific case and I know that much about it. And in the next coming days, weeks, were going to be sitting down and documenting everything. That's all I can really say because it's a live case right now as we speak. It's just about getting ticked to go. That's a horrific case. Is there a horrific case that's similar to that that you can talk about? Just as an example. I'll talk about two things. I'll talk about, and I want to give mention and respect to the Furnithi survivors. So Furnithi was a respite home for girls in Dundee in Scotland up in Angus, 60s to the early 90s.
48:58You know, tens of thousands went through it. What was this, a care home? Respite for children from broken homes, parents in addiction, alcoholism. Like a big foster care unit? kind of and it's a very dark place and it's got an utterly horrific history children being force-fed children being mentally and physically and sexually assaulted children being terrorized a very elderly woman in the 80s was just found guilty a week or two ago for the abuse 30 40 years ago and a lot of these women are in their 70s now 50s, 60s, 70s 80s, some a lot of them will be dead, deceased had lives in addiction they were put there and some only for a few weeks but some for very long periods and sent back time and time again and this place was absolutely horrific and I don't think I think it'd be fine to say that there wasn't one decent employee in there every single person adopted that behaviour that's for Neithy and the for Neithy survivors are going to be heard but at this moment in time the Scottish Government are not entertaining this and their records have all been you know, lost convenient yeah, very very convenient because Liam if the Scottish Government have to address a grooming gang inquiry or cover the institutional systemic abuse in Borstos and you know youth correction facilities and List D schools they're called in Scotland I could name three dozen of them off the top of my head that have all got horrific track records of men physically and sexually abusing young offenders, guys that are now my age and slightly above that were brutalised in these institutions, guys in their 60s, some of them are very well-known former criminals in Glasgow, and they've spoke to me in confidence and said I was raped, you know, at 14, 15, 13, and then another guy from the other side of the city will give you the same name, and then somebody else gives you the same name, so these instructors, these correctional officers were brutalising young guys and some of these people are still alive and I want to have them indicted so I've got a mammoth task that I wouldn't wish in anyone else and I don't want to involve anyone else in because it's my burden it's mine to carry and I feel although I have bad days with it and it's very very damaging to your mental health and your overall well-being I feel that my back's broad enough to bear it and I can carry it and I can do it and I can succeed and I can get there and I also feel now I see the change where certain people that have always said nothing are now coming forward to me because there's trust I've conducted myself the best way I can I've handled my page people now know this guy's for real he's not going away this page is for real it's got everything right we've not made any mistakes we've not got it wrong anywhere and they know that I'm into every field of this abuse isn't just got one dynamic to it, it's so many ways and the way that it's conducted in these institutions that never ever thought that the rainy day would come where transparency or inquiries would pop their ugly head up these people just thought for the last 40 years that they've got away with this paedophiles and people that brutalise children don't stop brutalising children just because of old age they just find more creative ways to do it because that evil within them has to be serviced, it has to be fed they live in the dark I'm trying hard to live in the light I want to be the solution I want to be part of the solution How do you keep yourself sane?
53:25Would you say you was a tortured soul off the back of this? Yeah, absolutely I wouldn't lie to you You wouldn't be human if you weren't a tortured soul? I don't have many good days, Liam Nah Maybe I'm not capable of much You know I certainly know how to hate I feed my hatred for these people and maybe I've fed it that much that I no longer know how to love I just don't know what I feel Liam I don't have an abundance of emotion I feel almost dead inside I would probably say the best part of me died a long time ago and now I'm just the days you know I've lost track of myself I don't have an identity I'm Spartan that's what it is I do I don't have a life outside of it I don't socialise, I don't drink I don't go to nights out I don't do any of those things I do this and I don't do anything else Must be very hard to make sense of the thing that you do is the thing that keeps you awake at night but also it's the same thing that gets you to sleep at night Yeah It's a bit of a conundrum Completely I wouldn't wish it on anybody Liam that's what I will say about it no I know you know I get every day something I'd love to join your team and I say be very careful what you wish for this will damage your life rapidly in ways you couldn't even imagine and the very first thing it will do is hammer you financially then it will destroy your sleep then it will destroy your mindset your balance your well-being your physical health your relationship will disintegrate you'll become angry you'll become abrasive you'll become an ugly version of yourself how do you control your temper when you're confronting these paedophiles that's the thing that's the question I always ask myself you know don't only him because you know whenever someone watches something they always say if that was me or if I was there but it's very different if it is you and you are there So I see comments every day, right?
55:45We get tens of thousands of comments every day with people saying, I would do this, I would smash them, I would do it.
55:55You've heard that chat a million times. Of course. Then you go to jail and then you can't save any more children. Everybody's a hard man on a phone or over a keyboard. There was a time in my life where I would happily chin somebody for doing that. No problem at all. I wouldn't have gave it a second thought. It would just be, The natural response. I'm approaching 50. You know, I would suggest that I've used all my lives with a law and that if I overstep the mark or I operate out with my parameters again, they will give me a painful lesson to reflect on. And I have to have more respect for my liberty and I have to close this out, what I'm doing.
56:42you know my grand finale of Spartan will be me trying to bring the house down and put something out that cannot be argued that is a public document that literally destroys the narrative with proof with testimony documented testimony medical records everything case notes that shows the corruption within the social services, the child protection services, how eternally corrupted they are, how they monetise children, how the system is built to procure children and remove children from parental guardianship into a monetised system. When those children reach 16 or 18, they are no longer a financially viable asset, so they're toughed out into a world that they're not ready for happy to make money from them when they're no longer a viable entity they're gone cut off overnight that's the social services in a nutshell that's what they do and I've been getting a bit of kickback lately for a post I put out the other day about them but I've also generated a huge windfall of whistleblowers who are former social workers that want to tell me everything about how that, and I've got a pretty vast knowledge of it anyway.
58:20That is a darkness, Liam, that social services department. That is a darkness. And do people just not want to believe that the social services has a dark element? Of course they don't because... They're programmed to believe they're the saviour. You think they're helping kids. We cannot be monetising children. we cannot be profiteering from it these things are funded tens, fifties, hundreds of millions of pounds we can't be building enterprises that profiteer from the protection of children in the way that they do of course everything has to be paid for and of course costs have to be covered and recuperated but it's disproportionate it can't cost 100k plus to protect one child for a year, a calendar year.
59:10It can't, it doesn't, and it does because I get access to this information. The public just read a snippet and go, that's terrible, and they move on to the next story, Liam. I go into it for days and days and days. I'll stay awake for 30 hours reading, and then I'll sleep for four, then I'm back up. I go into it and I consume it until I understand the subject intimately until I know that I can go and if I'm put in the spot I can debate you, you, you. I want to know that if I ever get an opportunity to be in Holyrood and speak or be heard anywhere that I can hold my own. Would you like to speak in Parliament?
59:50Yeah, I would like to speak for 45 minutes uninterrupted. What would you say? I would categorically highlight the top 10 aspects of failure and I can easily do that that's easy any day of the week where they're getting it massively massively wrong all the huge flaws in the foster system the vetting process PVG how easy it is to bypass DBS it's all broken Liam the sex offenders register the sexual harm prevention orders they're not worth the paper they're written on it's a failed enterprise MAPA you know what MAPA is? multiple agency public protection arrangements these are the people that are funded vastly to monitor violent sexual offenders and violent offenders when they're released from prison so there are different tiers they get and you get your MAPA tier and you're monitored for a period of months, years and they keep track of you but it's broken They've lost track of thousands and thousands of highly dangerous sex offenders because of lockdown.
1:01:08So MAPA is a failed enterprise. MAPA is in place to protect women, and I very rarely meet a woman that knows what MAPA is. MAPA's sole purpose is to protect vulnerable people in society from very dangerous people that have been released from long-term tariffs. And nobody knows what MAPA is. they self-audit, they self-regulate you know they get no scrutiny and they're completely broken beyond repair, unfit for purpose like the sex offenders register that's so out of date and out of touch it should have been abolished 25 years ago it doesn't serve any purpose it's not accurate people will regularly send me numbers of listed offenders in communities and it's utter nonsense because it lists them in a certain category but it doesn't list people that have just been removed, their time's just up, their case is spent.
1:02:04There are so many other avenues to it that you could times those numbers by five or six and still probably not scratch the surface with the true amount of offenders per postcode. It's all lies, Liam. It's all smoke and mirrors. And it's sanitised and it's watered down for very good reason. If the British public knew what was being done in their name, there would be civil unrest if the British public knew just how many rapes were committed on a daily basis and how many children's lives were destroyed by adults every year if there wasn't anarchy I would never want to set foot in this country again if the British public didn't respond the way I want to respond because the true numbers are terrifying and the numbers that they document are lies and it's very easy to prove if you know how to do it you just need to put the time in to go and look and find it and join the dots and they lie about everything London, the safest city in Europe lies it's all lies the knife statistics are lies the sexual assaults are now being recorded as common assaults they've removed the sexual elements they've removed groping they remove everything they play it down and they sanitise it to suit the narrative so that they can box tick we're super safe come here and spend your money Star Wars The Mandalorian and Grogu is now streaming on Disney Plus What are you waiting for?
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1:04:22by selecting work mode, available on Plus and Pro plans. Is Britain in really, really bad shape? I think it's in way worse shape than you realise, than our mate realises. He probably has. You've probably, you're here now, Liam. You know. I know. I take that back. Two years ago, you had a good idea. Now you're right in the thick of us, the movement, people, your man. Now you know, don't you? And I bet in the past few years you've been, holy shit. Well, I've known that we've been in bad shape probably for 10 years safely. But the more I've looked into it, the worse I've realised it is to frightening levels.
1:05:09To the point where I feel guilty relaying the information that I know to be factual because I don't want to scare people. But if I don't scare you, I can't warn you. This is what's happening. and I'm morally obligated to put out there what I know to be the truth. And I'm no conspiracy theorist. It's just I'm moving in circles that seek the truth. And those that seek the truth will find it eventually because they don't sleep until they find it, like yourself. And you're around very connected people. And that's the irony of the whole thing. We're trying to protect people that don't even like us because they've been lied to about us.
1:05:43So they paint us all with a brush and they put a banner over us and an umbrella and they call us all this or that the next thing Liam they're buzzwords they've got no they hold no weight oh and they're flavourless now done to death boring how many paedophiles are you responsible for putting behind bars oh I don't know too many oh a lot aye definitely a lot and I mean I've still got a lot of active cases on just just now there's probably I've probably got a dozen active cases right now today ready to come up January March there'll be quite a few in the summer you know yeah every I mean every week every other day I'm involved one way or another in identifying somebody every other day without a doubt some days five or six 100 % that's what he's doing we know what he is then we have to build on it that's the time consuming part it doesn't take me long to know what somebody's doing.
1:06:49Parents contact us constantly, every day, from Roblox, from Fortnite. Yeah, do you know what? I want to finish this interview and I want to go as deep as possible because I really want parents to understand. How bad it is. I want parents to understand how bad it is and I want you to point out the places that they need to be looking. What the parents need to look out for. So, the case we've got going on just now, little girl's 11, starts acting strange. Hiding the phone and doing things to her mum that she's never ever done. Being aggressive. Shouting, swearing. Lashing out. Just happened overnight.
1:07:31Complete behaviour change. Being extremely secretive. Sitting in the bedroom. Sitting in the toilet. Hiding. So the parents took a look and found I went and caught them. There will always be signs there will always be signs and I had to educate myself early on in those signs because my inbox blew up rapidly and my traction grew rapidly so people people are walking into police stations Liam and they're being denied help they're being turned away at the bar we can't help you that's nothing to go on, there's no crime there and then I go well actually there is a crime there's actually two crimes because these police don't have the correct training in the Sexual Offences Act so they don't I mean every time they come out to an arrest they ask me what the crimes are they say how many charges you got to go for what are they because they don't know it so there's always signs in my opinion Snapchat is the single worst app in existence it's the most dangerous app grooming by county lines guys is massive and when you can recruit young boys and girls to do county lines drugs runs and be mules for you and conduct stuff like that you will also sexually exploit them it goes hand in hand they bootleg the same you know, it's the same thing 100 % Snapchat's the worst Roblox as a kids gaming platform will be the worst gaming platform by far.
1:09:15Roblox is diabolical. They have implemented some safeguarding but there are tens of thousands of documented cases of children being sexually exploited on Roblox. Tens of thousands. Bear in mind that's only what's been accepted as actual cases. There are hundreds of thousands that haven't been reported directly through Roblox proper channels. It could be in the millions. this is a platform that is a magnet for children designed by extremely intelligent people, gurus, that are like the Pied Piper, the children flock to Roblox, millions of kids on it. So the predators are there waiting in the chat rooms.
1:10:01So the safeguarding that parents can implement has a level of protection, but they can still find ways around it with other types of conversation and lead your child to another platform. That was my next question. That's what they do. So, yeah, are there any apps that parents would have never heard of that the predator will transfer the child, say, from Roblox, to an app that none of us have heard of? Omegle, Kick, there's so many, Liam, there's dozens. There's new ones coming on the market all the time because, like Omegle, it was kicked off. What's that, like a WhatsApp? It's a kind of chat room type thing, private rooms.
1:10:39they blew up big time during lockdown where you would have a predator with 50 kids in and you'd be saying right if you do this I'll send you a token £20 Amazon voucher top up for your phone I'll post you a box of vapes so right and then as the night wore on kids are obviously drinking, they're having fun they're locked down but they're all in chat rooms then the next thing it'd be right shows your boobs right shows your you know a bit of banter that would lead to the much more darker stuff you know and kids would do it and these Preds are filtered to look like they're 19 but they may be 37 or 44 and they're sitting there filtered up so it grows arms and legs apps like Kick I caught an 81 year old man on that we caught Jim Wooley, we went and stung him he died while he was in bail that was the app he was using talking to 10, 12 year old girls every single app has got the minimal safeguarding to bypass the checks to be platformed they'll lie and say oh yeah we're really safe unless you are doing the monitoring as a parent and unless you are implementing the safeguarding and making sure that it hasn't been removed and making sure your kid isn't jumping to other platforms like Telegram, WhatsApp, any one of the chat rooms, the Google chat rooms are filled with predators.
1:12:10Even the safest ones are filled with predators. They're everywhere, Liam. This is an epidemic. This is the true epidemic. Forget all of the stuff in the masks. Forget all of that. As bad as it was, this is the true epidemic. Numbers unprecedented. You couldn't begin to imagine how much on a daily basis children are predated on Right across the entire spectrum From basic gratification To the absolute most graphic, vile stuff that a human being could do to a kid Every single day Tens of thousands of times a day Children are targeted And I've noticed as well when I'm reading articles that punishments aren't fitting the crimes either They're very, very lenient and that makes me suspicious Why would you show any lenience with a case like that?
1:13:10A diabolical crime against the child Why have they only got 18 months? It should be life for what they've done And I think, is there more to this that I don't know? I got 120 hours community service for catching a paedophile stopping and picking a child up and a guy just got a suspended sentence for 100 ,000 Category 1 images, which is the most barbaric, brutal, disgusting things you can do to a kid. The worst of the worst. And he got a suspended sentence because he was of good character all his life. Fucking hell. Have you ever come under scrutiny because of the work you do? What do you mean scrutiny?
1:13:50Have people questioned your motives? Oh, absolutely. Oh Throws Wheelbarrow loads of them Fools accusations Yeah But I mean Because Where there's so many paedophiles That means you're making so many enemies Yes Of course you are And I can imagine that that group of people Stick together more than any other group Because they're the enemy of the world I bumped into a guy and I recognised him Because I've got a photographic memory If I see you one time That's it That's all I need to see you And I was in Glasgow and I said and I went you've made a beeline for this guy and I went come here and he went he saw me and he went oh and he recognised me and I said you called me a paedophile about three years ago on Facebook call me now nah I was only kidding I said come on there's nobody around call me now he says you're about ten years younger than me you look quite capable shit himself I was only kidding on I said mate that's an extremely damaging thing to say to somebody or about somebody that is not that I know I know I used to really disagree with you I used to but I know I know that you're right okay so you just recklessly say things like that to somebody like me and what's to disagree with you're trying to save the lives of children at the time I went viral around 219 220 was when I exposed Eastern European and Asian gangs in the south side of Glasgow for exploiting children and women prostitution, kids being sold and it was Romanians and it was Eastern Europeans and it got a lot of traction and people oh you're racist you've called out Romanians you've basically highlighted one demographic of people and I said well that entire postcode is mainly Romanians and it's these people that I'm talking about and him, him, him, him and him are involved with and that's how and it went viral overnight like it just went all over the nation it went global and that's when I kind of came to prominence and off the back of that death threats I had all sorts of you know the police were at me constantly these guys are really dangerous they'll get you you know you've got to be careful I was like well whatever what will be will be and you know not to be blasé with my own safety Of course you don't want anything to happen to yourself But once I did it I couldn't undo it Once I seen it I couldn't unsee it Once I've got into this as much as I have It's In the sinew of me It's inside me I can't stop It's as if it's a living organism within you I can feel the energy I'm so grateful for men like you You'll never ever know I've got so much respect and admiration But I don't envy you because I've had my, I've seen enough to know the damage it caused.
1:16:53I don't envy me. No, it sticks. And when you said about accusations, I don't want the word paedophile to ever lose its punch like the word racist has. Yeah. Because we need to exterminate paedophiles. So when you've got dickheads on X, Yeah. fucking wallies, just calling anyone they disagree with a paedophile. It's like, Beast a beast or not. Yeah, stop doing that. Yeah, it's done to death. Call them anything but that. Because then you're actually giving bonafide paedophiles a pass and you're giving them a place to hide. I really hope that people stop using that word willy-nilly because it's fucking serious.
1:17:30I totally agree with you, Liam. And it really horrifies me with how easily it's thrown around and it's losing its weight, it's losing its momentum. You know, that's a word of substance. I don't say that word lightly. I would never call somebody a beast unless I am absolutely certain. I wouldn't. The same, I wouldn't stick a camera in somebody's face until I've ticked every single box three times. And it'd be right. If I get one wrong, I'm done. Same. Reputation and tatters. Yeah, you've got to be 101 % certain before you use that word. Even if I'm 95 % sure, if there's a slight element of doubt, I think I can't call that person that because what if they're not?
1:18:14I've destroyed them and I haven't got my full evidence in front of me. And I think people need to think about that. I think a good message to send to people is if you're one of these idiots that calls everyone a nonce that you disagree with, you're actually protecting genuine nonces. Definitely. You're giving them a shield to hide behind. That's the question. I've interviewed a guy that formed the shield and he's set out a women and children protection racket across the UK. I couldn't work out and still can't work out the logistics of how he was ever going to do that. The idea is admirable, but I'm into realistically, I want women and children to be safe.
1:18:57I don't just want an idea that's not even formulated or planned yet. So from what you've seen of that, because I saw you on a live stream with Chris, his name is. Yeah. Is that pie in the sky? Could the shield work I asked to go and speak to him about it And he said yeah come down there's my address I went down we had a conversation And I left Even more puzzled than I was After watching your podcast And all the months in between I left his home Even more puzzled with absolutely no clue And one thing that everybody That watched it missed He made a very very subtle comment During the live He said there's nobody alive that knows exactly what I'm doing.
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1:20:48And I said well if you've had almost 100 grand in public donations and you've got 180 ,000 followers at least 10 of them should know what you're doing That troubled me greatly and at that point I just it was over for me at that point because I know it can't be done. I was probably one of the very first to be extremely vocal saying this idea is madness, it's lunacy. The Met can't get on top of what's going on. One guy with untrained volunteers is definitely not going to put a dent in anything, not even in their own hometown. Criminal enterprises that are behind things are not mugs. they're uncaught because they're good at what they do.
1:21:38I also want to put that on record. As far as the Shield's concerned, and I've pretty much told Chris this in so many words, I love the idea. Absolutely. There's no one more than me and definitely you that would love for his model to work. But the fact is, I don't understand his model. Therefore, I will never endorse the Shield. No, I can't do it. he posted the other days running a salmon farm and a venison farm a B Stoic clothing brand a big Zen supplement shop a shamanic retreat centre something else while managing multiple homes and all the rest of it while bringing a baby into the world while posting every half hour on the hour 35, 45 posts a day but while managing a national movement and I said, I know how my time is spent.
1:22:31My eyesight is getting damaged because I'm constantly doing this. So I know that I don't have time for 45 posts a day, two or three at most. So I don't know. He's maybe superhuman, but I wish him well. There's no personal malice. But if you're going to make statements that you're going to be the answer to a national problem, you have to be able to back it up. me Liam Spartan I scratch the surface I deal with less than 1 % of the scum in this society and it maybe even isn't even that that's how big the problem is so to make a statement that you're the answer it's not for me it's not my thing I won't slander anybody but it will never be what it was said to be at the beginning it just can't be done it cannot be done in any way, shape or form.
1:23:26And there is no ace card up anybody's sleeve with all these cryptic statements about what's coming next. I'm not a mug. I've been around the block a few times. Yeah. I mean, this little section may rain on a lot of people's parades, but the fact of the matter is, I don't want to see people exploited or given false hope. I know it can't work. It can't work, Liam. No. If he ever pulls the ace card, Liam, I'll be the first guy to jump on a live and say, well done, that man. Here we go. I hope I'm wrong So they are I hope I'm wrong I hope that we can save Every woman and child Out there that needs it And Let's finish this off With Something you want to say That I I'm not going to ask Something that's important to you That you'd like to tell Anyone listening Something they should know Or you want to tell them Whatever it may be I got into this Through one thing or another And it's entirely consumed my life and my children have suffered as a result.
1:24:29And, you know, other people that have been in my life have suffered as a result. Friendships have suffered as a result. People that care about me have suffered as a result. People that have gave me their time, their help. People that have had my back because I am so intensely focused on what I'm doing. I'm just built that way. I can't control what it is in front of me when I get into it. When I get my teeth into it, it consumes every single fibre in my body. And I'm so determined. It's a fatal flaw of mine. I give everything to that and everything else round about it suffers. And my children haven't had the time of me that they should and all the rest of it and things.
1:25:21I'll never get that back. so I have to succeed at this because it has to be for something they have to know right okay you know it was difficult dad we didn't see you but we get it, we get it now because you got it over the line, you achieved something implementing a change in law you know immediate remand for first time offender something like that, if I can get that locked down then it could be worth it, we'll ever get the time back, no will ever get my sanity back that ship sailed I want to thank the people that
1:26:02were part of Spartan and will always be part of it regardless of where they are you know at this moment in time they brought something that I can never put a value on they were the backbone of it they're the backbone of me doing this every day because without people that come to you to help you, where do you find your inspiration? You can't do this alone. I try and do it alone, Liam, and it just destroys you. And it's a very destructive force. This is the darkest of entities. And it's very, very difficult for me to say, I'm going to call time on this. I'm not capable of that. I don't have that strength.
1:26:48I don't have that will. to walk away. That's the reality. So although in a year or two's time I may put somebody in the hot seat and pull the strings from behind the scenes, I'm so intensely driven by it that I'll still be like looking over their shoulder and can I do this, can I do it right out? Because that's just my nature, that's the nature of the beast and that's a flaw, that's not a quality. My drive is not a quality at this moment in my life. Well, what I'd like to do is as my form of supporting what you do, because I'm all for you and I'm all for the cause. I'd like to invite you back every year on the show to get an update and just see where we're at, what good's been done, what you've had to go through, what you've sacrificed.
1:27:38And if people watching want to follow Alex's journey and see what he has sacrificed and is willing to sacrifice, I'm going to put all of his social media links in the description so you can follow the Spartan journey. I think he's doing God's work. You're never going to get these conversations on the mainstream. So please like and subscribe to my channel as well, because these conversations, they should be mandatory. They should be had out loud. They should be had in Parliament, which Alex is hoping to do one day. so please support the channel by hitting like and subscribe and do the same for Alex the bigger his platform grows the more children I believe he can save and I also hope that you keep yourself safe in the process and look after your mind brother and I want to say well done to you Liam because you didn't have an easy riding life so you've done great mate we go again, you're a good man and you love you brother, cheers mate
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