The Fight I Nearly LOST: Bare-Knuckle Champion Reveals His Biggest Battle | Daniel Lerwell

29:32I even put videos up with Theo now. I was going to start with it because I had some disgusting comments. Social media. Some scumbags on there. Some scumbags. And I mean scum. That's low. One of them, I nearly went back to my old ways. I wanted to kill him. Stuff he was saying about my son and myself was absolutely fucking disgusting. Complete stranger. Complete stranger. From Swansea, believe it or not. Lives in Swansea, found out he lives in Swansea. He's from Cofillia originally. And I actually got stopped going to see him because it was disgusting. So when you became a dad, when did you first realise that Theo was different?

30:11I knew from the start. Me and my ex-wife knew from the start. But another funny story, health is to come, said there was something wrong. I chucked out the house, go to my house. I said, he's 18 months old. I said, how can you say something's wrong at 18 months old? I knew deep down there was something wrong. We just don't want to admit it. What were the signs? He could never keep eye contact with me. When he was a kid, he was mumbling as a young baby, but then he just went moot. Just no mumbling, no noises, nothing, which was very strange at the time. It was loads of stuff. He'd always be on his own.

30:45Like you see, like one-year-olds, they mix in with people, you know, they crawl up to each other, try and play with each other. He'd rather be on his own. He wasn't really interacting with his sister. There was loads of signs. And as they get older, you start seeing a lot more. Because when they're babies, it can be masked a lot. You can say, oh, look, he's doing this because he's a baby. He hasn't learnt this yet or he hasn't done this yet. Or he's not speaking yet because he's only still young. Was a late developer. Late developer, yeah. But then I did buy the health visitor flowers and I apologised to her.

31:18When we took them to the doctors, you had a ruse-gris assessment. Yeah, a severe autistic ASD. And at what age did you go for the assessment? He was about two and a half, three Very young Oh, very young Very young He was very noticeable from a very young age with Theo As I said, 80 months old As I said, there was something wrong See, some parents, they put it off Because they don't want it concrete That their kid's autistic What would you... Because I'd imagine the support you've had since Has been immeasurable With autism, right? It's a hell of a fight I mean, the worst fight we had was the Board of Education I mean you've got a group of guys judging your son what school he should be in or what help he should have never met him don't mean they've never even set eyes on my son but it's a hell of a struggle but the earlier the earlier you realise something the better don't put it off don't put it off get him seen straight away don't be like me and chuck the elf is out and say oh there's nothing fucking wrong when you know it is deep down just get it out there because the sooner it gets out the better it is for yourself and he could deal with it a lot better.

32:24And it's got to be better for the child as well. 100%. 100 % because he has help then from early. Like it took us years. It took us till he was nine to get him in autistic school. He was in a normal school in the ASD unit. So you have like disabled units. He was in Town Hill and he got moved to Terrace Road. He was in a disabled unit. From Terrace Road he got moved to Dummont in another disabled unit because Terrace Road said he couldn't meet his needs. And when all this is going on, when schools even write in letters to the Board of Education saying they can't meet his needs, they still are, what we'll do, we'll give an extra hour one-to-one.

32:59They don't care. They don't care. They don't know the kids. And you've got to really fight for it. And it's the elf visitors that fight through in the end. And when you found out Theo was autistic, what did that do to you as a man and a father? Still today, it ruins me sometimes. I get jealous of fathers playing football with the kids. I get jealous of fathers taking the kids to boxing. But then on the flip side of it, my son never leaves my side. She's always with me. So I think, well, they haven't got that. Like my daughter's 16 now. I hardly ever see that. Do you know what I mean? But my son is always by my side.

33:30There's pros and cons, but yeah, sometimes it do hit the bad when you see some things. Yeah, I was going to say, you must have something special that other people haven't got. Yeah, 100%. And how did you, if he's non-verbal, how did you communicate? How did you learn each other's language? When you were younger, you get to learn their body, they've got to learn their body movement, their features. When he's bad, he'd lay down and he wouldn't do much. When he's hyper, he'd be climbing up the walls. Do you know what I mean? That's one thing about Theo. Physically, when he was younger, he excelled at everything.

34:07I mean, I think he was walking the time he was 30 months old. He was crawling the time he was nine months old. He was climbing up bloody trees and stuff when he was like three. And that's one thing with kids with autism. they got no fear they got no they got emotions but they got no sense of fear no sense of danger they got no sense of that which on a flip side which is bad because even roads my son would walk straight out in front of a road without even looking wouldn't even bother him and you know it's stuff like that it's a side that people don't see I mean around water he loves water I take him fishing a lot he loves fishing it's calming isn't it he loves fishing loves being outside I bought him a camper van recently because he loves caravans so we got a little camper van I would go fishing.

34:50He absolutely loves it. And like, you could see, he looks at the water and I'm like, don't go any of that water. And he goes, okay, daddy, I'm not wet. So you know what I mean? And that stuff comes from YouTube. I call it learning, but the doctors call it echo speaking, but it's not. They know what they're saying. I think myself. And like, as I said, he was told he'd never speak. So to hear his voice, it's like winning a euro millions to me. It's fantastic. How much can he speak now? He doesn't speak much. What he found with autistic kids is they sing a lot. So they copy a song off YouTube. And he speaks all the words.

35:26Yeah, he speaks all the words. All the lyrics. But he won't have a conversation. And there's a lot of kids. I was a kid. We'd done a fundraiser. He can name and sing every single Elvis song, but he's totally moot. Will not speak to his parents. Will not speak to kids. Will not speak to nobody else. And he's not miming. He's actually singing. He's actually singing the old Elvis song. Sounds like Elvis. Loves Elvis. knows all his songs knows what day they were wrote even what date they were released knows everything about him but totally moot will not have a conversation with you and that's where people get non-verbal confused because a non-verbal child can sing songs can recite books recite stuff off YouTube but can't get into a conversation like an adult conversation like me and you now Would he be able to speak to you if he was singing?

36:12No, no He'd just sing but like now he do sing Just repeat a song that he loves Yeah, yeah, yeah and that's what they call it they call it echoing so like they just repeat the song he loves like his favourite song is now Uptown Girl he loves Uptown Girl Billy Joel Billy Joel he loves In This Shirt that's another song what's the other song there was another song as well he loves but they didn't mean to I put a video up singing in this shirt the other day he just started singing in the van I was like you know I tried to record it just to get it out there just to get awareness out there saying look I was told he was going to be non-verbal he's actually singing a song now from the radio Not from a YouTube channel, from an actual radio.

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37:23Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro Plans. And how old was Theo when you tried to take your own life? He was born in 2004. He was three. Okay. Yeah, he was three. So was that at the height of, I suppose, how bad you were feeling?

38:03It was probably the lowest I felt, yeah. Do you remember what was going through your mind at the time when you hung the rope up? Yep. I tell everyone else, when I was hanging up, they'd all be better off. without me, everyone would be better without me. I'm not needed in this world. That's all I do is bring people down. As soon as I put it around my neck and kick the stool away, mistake. What the fuck have I done? And that's why I tell people suicide is the only mistake you'll make and never get back. Yeah, you're not the first person I've heard say that either. And that's the truth of it. You may think that they wanted to do it, but 99 % of them, yeah, they wanted to do it, but when they'd done it, it's the biggest mistake of their life.

38:41And had you been drinking? Yeah, yeah. I used to drink a lot, the mask a lot. Yeah. And I've done drugs. And was this something you thought about before or was it in the moment? I tried a few times before that. Never got successful in any way. Like, I remember once I took 48 Ibrufen. My mother found out, rushed me to the hospital and they said, he's going to have a really bad stomach. You know, I'm going to pump him, you know. You can't overdose on my Ibrufen, believe it or not. And yeah, I had a really bad stomach for about two weeks. It burnt holes in my stomach or something. It did a bit of damage to my stomach.

39:17But yeah, I tried a few times before that. But that time was a time where I thought, right, this is the only way it's going to happen. And I'm going to do it. And you've not attempted it since? I've had thoughts. I haven't attempted it since because I keep photos of my kids in my phone now. I was going to say like... I got paper photos. Yeah, beautiful. I was going to ask you like what or who has pulled you back? My kids. Yeah, definitely my kids. They've saved me a lot of times. And has your life improved since that moment? Yeah, yeah. I think when you hit Rockport, I'm the only way he is up.

39:49I was sectioned for a couple of days. I was sectioned for 10 days. That was eye-opening to me. I can't remember nothing. I remember getting there. I remember kicking off the paramedics. I remember being a twat in the hospital. I remember a sharp pain in my ass. And I can't remember nothing. Were they sedating you? They must have, yeah. Yeah. Because I can't remember nothing, nothing. and that was quite scary in itself. And when I did come round in the last couple of days, I see people in there and I'm thinking, fucking hell, she'll be in here with these. Some of them have got bad mental health issues.

40:24I've seen one guy try and stab a nurse with a broken pool cue in her and I'm like, that's, it's fucking crazy. It's a crazy place, a really crazy place. And at what stage in Theo's life did you start or have you feared for his future? Every day. The big thing, again, not many people talk about it, but I do, is what's going to happen when I'm gone? What's going to happen when his mother's gone? You know, I know he got sisters. His older sister is fantastic. When I was 10, she was in hospital now. Ellie is fantastic with him. But no one can love the children like your parents. And, like, the thoughts I've had, and, like, he wouldn't go through with it.

41:06He'd just think, would it be better if he come with me when I go? would it be better if he went with his mother when she goes and it sounds sick but I guarantee you you speak to parents with disabled kids and they all think the same because it's just a constant that's the main thing I worry about is what's going to happen to him when I'm gone and I think you all do that the more you think of it and you know that every time you fight for him in your mind are you thinking there's a shelf life for your fighting and then what do I do from there because you're 40 now I'm 40 now yeah yeah I'm still quite fit I still enjoy the training I'm still sparring I'm still you know keeping up with youngsters sparring that's the trigger I tend to find is if I can keep up with the youngsters then I'm alright but yeah it's you know it comes to us all and age comes to us all and in the end it's going to end what I'm going to do next I don't know because if I'm going to fight in my life you know BKB saved me in a long ways not just for autism for my son but it saved me going back to jail it saved me a lot of bother And how many years do you think you've got left in you doing bare knuckle?

42:11I got asked this at 36 and I said two years I got asked at 38 I said two years and again I said now I'll say two years Another two years? Another two years At this age now I think another two or three years and I'll be done What is the normal shelf life for a bare knuckle fighter? I've heard there's been like 48 years fighting in bare knuckle I mean do you know Dominic Nagus I think he's fighting Dom's been on Yeah I think he's over 50 lovely guy mind hell of a guy Mark O 'Neill he's just fought a guy named Camille in the last show no one gave him an open L he come out one punch done his eye in won the fight so he got a world title fight and I tell you I got a lot of respect for that man because he suffers terribly with his mental health as well Mark and Dominic trains him I reckon in two years time you'll be asked the same question I'll say another two years you'll give the same answer probably yeah well if you're still as fit as you are now yeah and you've still got purpose yeah yeah I can't see you throwing in the towel although you're moving into power slapping.

43:08Well, that was the plan in my head. That was a stupid plan in my head. So I thought, right, I got two or three years left at BKB. Surely it won't take a lot off me just standing there taking a slap in front of people. So perhaps I could do Ataline 50. And that's a crazy thought I had where I signed up for it, yeah. And all the fights you've had, all the brutal bare knuckles, all people got to do is put your name in YouTube to see that this isn't lip service. This is like you've had some brutal fights in that ring and on the street as well. but what has Theo taught you that Ben Uckel couldn't? Theo taught me a lot.

43:42He's taught me, I say this a lot as well, are we the broken ones? Because simple things to my son means a world to him. Even just going to the beach, even being outside. I mean, have we forgot all that? Have we forgot the simple things in life? Are we chasing stuff that we weren't meant to chase? Like money, cars, houses, material things. My son got no interest in stuff like that. that's all he's interested in his iPad being outside and being happy that's it and it's such a simple life for him and he's taught me so much he's probably taught me more than anyone in my life yeah what about what has he taught you about strength that fighting couldn't he fights every day every day he fights so I might oh I might and moan about fighting twice or three times a year you know my mental health I fight every day my mental health but he fights a lot more you know he fights for senses I mean even a baby crying for instance a baby crying sets him right off you start hitting people you start on a meltdown and yeah it's just he's taught me the simple things in life are better than the material things in life and that's a massive massive thing to learn early so if you've got a son or a daughter or an adult with disabilities and they love the simple things in life learn from it because it teaches you a hell of a lot.

45:05And he's put strength into perspective for you. He's just put it into perspective. Strength is not fighting. Strength is not taking a punch in the mouth. Strength is dealing with something every day that you were born with. And that's the strength he got. He deals with every day with a smile on his face. You know, you're bipolar, you're up and down, and you never know when it's going to come. A happy memory, I'm assuming, was when you had the world title belt wrapped around your waist. Yeah. Do you remember how you felt? Titles don't mean much to me Believe it or not Oh really The first thing I thought About winning a world title I thought My god this is going to raise More awareness for autism And people laugh at me People think Oh he's fucking He's saying that But no All my life That was the first thought That came to me I've just won a world title This is going to raise Autism awareness Now up there I had a first phone call We were fighting for autism Poorly I phoned him straight after I said I've won a world title This is going to get us right up there Yet they actually gave me a belt Then for a bastard of a year Which is probably the best belt I've ever had Autism Awareness Ambassador of the Year And he made it into a belt I still got it Made it into a belt That's the belt I've kept I mean I raffled on My first world title belt I raffled off For a girl who died of cancer Up in Town Hill Love her And yeah We raised a few quid for that You know And she built a shed Out the back A memorial shed Her mother did And it's lovely It's fantastic I'm able to do stuff like that And what's a world title fight Actually like?

46:26Is it different to any other? It is it's the same as British title fights it's you know the guy's there to win you don't want to lose you know you're there to win so every time you fight then you think it's going to be a five round war but every time and I've had my lucky punches it's over yeah so yeah it's totally different than a normal fight I mean it's the atmosphere the build up to it even when you're in there it's like it's a world title fight it's just crazy it's hard to put if I could bottle it up and sell it I'd be a billionaire right okay it's a crazy feeling it's euphoric yeah there's another fight I saw you had and I mentioned you I messaged you at the time to say oh look there's another one yeah and so you've you've put this guy to his knees yeah but then you've fallen to your knees as well yeah so what was all that about it's just respect and was he a friend a friend Jack Marshman yeah I think the one who was on there was Jack he's from Wales he actually fought my best friend in UFC John Phillips yeah I knew there must be some kind of bond there the way that you well when he was on his knees being counted out you're on your knees and then you've gone and cuddled him so what's it like actually having to fight a friend because I couldn't imagine that you've got to switch it off I mean he was ranked number three or four I was ranked number five we had to fight to get to that world title and it's just business and me and Jack think the same way like we had messages on Facebook who shouldn't be fighting each other who friends who know each other and it's like well we're both in the same promotion we're both the same weight we both well he was a fantastic fighter and when I got offered Jack the first thought I had was I can't turn this fight down you know he's massive he's been in UFC and it's a test myself and that's why that's why I love them fights it's a test I mean I've been winging it you know what I mean I've had fucking 10 Amtra fights I lost more MMA fights than I've won and like in BKB I've just been I call them lucky punches I've been catching my lucky punch and getting away with it but no it's old joke aside it's just a test yourself too modest yeah it's just a test it's a test yourself and that's that's all that counts and what's your BKB score?

48:38my BKB record now is 17 fights it'll be my 18th fight world title two world titles three British titles I've won 1-13 12 by knockout eight first round knockouts yeah so it's a decent one for a bare knuckle fighter because it hasn't been around that long and I saw a lot of them one minute knockouts Yeah, yeah. I think some of them are often. I'd gone to my knees a few times. I fought a guy named CJ Mills. Have you seen that fight? Yeah. And I went to my knees after knocking him out. It's just a respect thing. I mean, you don't want to see anyone get hurt in there. And what it was with CJ Mills the first fight, his daughter was there.

49:12And my daughter hadn't started coming to fights then. And I was thinking, fuck, I've just half killed him and his daughter's watching. I thought, oh my God, what have I done? Well, that's an interesting thing you've said there because when you're in that ring, you look like you're going in for the kill, not for the win. Yeah. That's how I, it's like you look like you're going in there to kill rather than win. That's the switch I'm talking about. But at the same time, you don't want to hurt anybody. It's after it. As soon as he's on the floor, I'm like, fuck, he's hurt. Right. It just clicks in and out.

49:37And it's a crazy, it's hard to explain because he could be the most nastiest, violent man for that in 15 minutes and as soon as I'm 15 minutes up, as soon as I bounce over, bang, you're just back to Dan. And it's like, fucking hell, he's hurt now. I've got to show a bit of respect. But yeah, like I've been hurt myself I think sometimes I didn't get respect off their guys but if I fought them guys again I knocked them out I'd show them respect it's just one of those things to me that'll get you to sleep at night yeah yeah yeah that's what counts that's what counts yeah and apart from the time when people were being rude about you and Theo yeah and you were going to go and deal with a person because I mean insane that that somebody from your own town doing that it's crazy that's nuts but apart from that time have you ever nearly gone back to your old ways since you've been fighting officially?

50:24Yeah, yeah, a few times. A few times I thought, you know what, fuck it, I'm going back to my old ways. What happened? What do you find in life? The nicer you are, the less you get thought of. And then the more ruthless you are, you probably understand this, the more ruthless you are, you seem to get more tension, more, I don't even know what it is. You get more respect. That's the word I'm looking for. You get a lot more respect, you get a lot less hassle. but if I go back that ways I know I'll end up in a big big prison sentence and my son, my daughter they need me and sometimes I think it's easier to go back to my old ways I know you're an atheist but I found my faith again I found my faith again and it do with the Christians it do help faith because you've got something good to look at Like, I won't win a Muslim.

51:19I've got some great Muslim friends, but the difference between Muslims and Christians, some of the Muslims take their Bible or their Koran a lot more violent than the Christians take their Bible. I suppose you understand that. And I'm all for people finding their faith. Although there's not anything in me that believes in a God, but I still think faith is a good thing for a lot of people because you need a road map. I'm a straight guy and they'll tell you, we don't know what's next, do we? None of us do. We haven't got a clue. That's a fact. that's a fact none of us knows what's going to happen until it happens to us it's all a guessing game yeah it's all a guessing game and like I have had times I'm thinking you know when I tried when I tried killing myself I was thinking you know there can't be nothing up there and I thought that for years it's only the last four years I found my faith again and at the time I was thinking there can't be nothing up there he sent me he sent me my son you know he sent me a son that's disabled he's not going to need normal life he's only 24-7 care he's in need of us all the time it can't be a god and you see like things about kids having cancer dying of cancer and you're like it can't be it can't be nothing up there but then when when you read up my stuff and I've had chats with priests and they're like he sent you Theo because he knew he could handle it I'm like no really I couldn't because you know I tried this he said yeah but he'd come back from that and he started breaking it down for you and when he'd break it down for you he was like do you know what that could be right but there's always a doubt in the back don't get me wrong I'm a straight talker there's always a doubt in the back of my head perhaps there is nothing but my nan was big into church my two of them and as a kid I always went to church with them and yeah it's just one of those things I found in the last four years Hey it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for$15 a month is back so I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills but it turns out that's very illegal So there goes my big idea for the commercial.

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53:54Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. And mate, if it gets you through life and day-to-day life with a smile on your face, I'm all for it. Same as me. 100%. As I say, like, you know, people, some people hate some religions. like I know some really good Muslims but I know some really bad ones I know some disgusting ones I mean I've certainly got my favourite and least favourite religions same as me it's just one of those things where I think a little bit of faith helps and you know when you move into Dana White's power slapping are you going to take your faith with you when you're smashing them out of the face I will yeah are you looking forward to it?

54:33I'll see you already after that yeah yeah I am looking forward to that it's a new will you pray for them before you slap them? I pray and then slap them yeah But yeah, it's going to be a new game for me. I don't know what to expect, to be honest. But you're fully committed? Fully committed to it, yeah. So it's happening? It's happening. I've signed a contract. This contract's been sent off. It's happening, yeah. How does someone train for a power slap tournament? I've got a clue. I've had a few suggestions, you know. I could be one of them guys going on slapping burglars. Perhaps that's a bit of training.

55:06But I think the most thing is just slapping a pad. Just repetitive? just repetitive just learning how to slap as I said I've slapped a few people when I was younger and I've actually knocked a few guys out of the slaps or perhaps I'm going to slap I don't know this is your destiny it's my destiny yeah but we'll soon find out do you think you'll get to meet Dana White I hope so yeah I haven't met him before but I've seen him when I've gone to Corner John I went to Abu Dhabi the fight island I went out there with John I've seen him but never met him but yeah hopefully I'll meet him it'll be nice to meet him And have you got any BKB fights coming up?

55:41Yeah I got a world title fight next So you've got Ethan George And Gonzales Fight in the end of August I was supposed to fight But I broke my hand And I'm fighting and went out to them too You've got lots on Lots on yeah You put that alongside your parenting That is obviously challenging I've got to keep myself busy For myself And people know me Know I'm under my lower Sometimes I go to bed like 3 in the morning I'm up at 5, 6 training And it's I don't feel it it's crazy being ADHD do you struggle to sleep struggle a lot same I struggle a lot to sleep as I said they give me medication I'm coming off it myself and it was ruining me I was on quetiapine whatever you're at I've heard of it yeah it's a terrible drug and when I was flat out on it I was like a fucking zombie I was terrible and final question when Theo looks back on your entire life what's the main thing you hope he understands as to why you kept on fighting to raise awareness not even to change him but to change the world for him there's still a lot of nasty people out there that don't understand autism I mean you see it every day you see it every day online now social media it can be a good thing or a bad thing the good thing is it's good to raise awareness it's good to put things on it so look autism is still not out there enough because this is happening I mean still some parts of America today they still just chuck them in a fucking asylum home and that's it Really?

57:08Yeah, and that's still today. I mean, as recently as the 80s, autistic kids were just classed as dumb, chucked in a hospital. I've even seen photos from the 80s where they tied up the fucking radiator because they can't handle them. You know, it kills me. Yeah, I bet it does. Yeah, seeing stuff like that. I was born in 86. Put that in perspective. In the end days, they were still treating them as animals, really. and on a positive phone or anything you want to say to anybody that's watching this that's new to you yeah the main two things are mental health if you're a man with mental health don't hide it it will get to in the end but also on the flip side of that if you suicidal don't do it because it would be the last mistake you make and that's the truth of it as I said it was a massive mistake for me as soon as I'd done it what have I done I knew straight away he was fucking wrong so don't let suicide be your last mistake and with autism just I've always spoke to my son normal like have conversation even if he couldn't speak back so keep having conversations with him keep on top of him keep making him happy that's a massive thing if they're happy the whole world is happy and just raise as much awareness as you can and where can people find you on social media I'm on Instagram BKBLewall I'm on Facebook I am on TikTok but my daughter runs after me because I'm not a big thing on TikTok I don't know to work at so I'm on TikTok as well as BKBLewel I'm all over social media I do have a lot of messages as well I help people as much as I can and if I can help them, my charity will help them Fighting for Autism will get in touch with them and help them so if you need any advice or help, just get in touch with me And anyone that's going to go and start following your accounts, what can they expect to see in the future?

58:54A lot of my fighting's on there but mostly a lot of my son a lot of my daughter, they are my world and they see a lot of them on there, a lot of autism and slapping people I'd imagine and slapping people in the future yeah well mate I wish you Theo and your daughter the best of luck thank you and I totally admire your work and I appreciate you coming on and sharing that story thank you I think it's going to help a lot of people yeah thank you very much so appreciate you brother great being here because I never thought I'd be on you to be honest with you I've watched you over the years I know your story I've seen you on podcasts as well and you know your inspiration and that's the only way to say thank you very much for having me on you mate I fully appreciate those nice comments thank you brother All right, thank you very much, Neil.

59:34Cheers, mate.

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