There ARE Terrorists On The Boats | Explosive Interview: Richard Taylor

22:28That's my only concern. I'm not being divisive. I know a lot of people that watch me and support me. They're Farage fans. And that's fair enough. Even though if he has lied about Tommy on TV, we won't go there. But he can apologise for that, by the way, and redeem himself. There is always that option. But I don't want to slam Farage because he has got a lot of qualities. But I just fear that without Farage, there's no reform. And it just sounds like that's the reason you left the Brexit party. Well, yeah. I mean, look, Farage is reform. Reform is Farage, right? It's as simple as that. It's a Farage cult, you know, and what Farage says goes.

22:58You know, he's the majority shareholder there, him and Zia Youssef. It's not democratised at all. You know, he has full control of the party. So if, you know, regional coordinators that say anything that he doesn't agree with, they boot it out. We've seen it with Rupert Lowe. We've seen it with James Murdoch recently. We've seen it with Rupert Lowe. They even tried to take him into jail, mate. I mean, they made allegations. They wanted a guy in jail. This is an honourable bloke-like, you know what I mean? as well, they booted him out. And this is when Farage had left the political playing field, done his thing, made his money elsewhere, but he was in the jungle or whatever else he was doing.

23:27And he'd seen an opportunity to get back into politics. But that time, I had rejoined Reform. So after the Brexit Bank finished, Farage came back in. I then rejoined Reform. Because I thought, Farage is back in the game. Now we stand a chance of winning our country back. Because it wasn't about Farage for me. It was about the country, right? And I thought we got a chance with him. But then what happened was, I watched what Farage was doing. Let me just go back a little bit. I came out of politics. After the Brexit party, I'd stopped politics altogether for two years. Two years sabbatical, I was done with it all.

23:56I'd seen the corruption, seen the lies. I'd worked in the Welsh Parliament. I worked as a caseworker for a Brexit party MS at the time, Mark Reckless. So I was actually in the belly of the beast, you know, in the Senate, right? And I'd seen what was going on in the corruption, and I thought, you know what? I don't want none of this. This is bullshit. They don't care about the people. All they care about is their big fat salaries, their second homes and everything else, and how much money they can get out of the system or the taxpayers. They didn't give a shit. There is the few that do, that do generally care.

24:22So I get that on record, but most of them don't. They're in there for the wrong reasons. And I took two years out. And it just happened that after those two years, I met up with my old friend who was with me today in the studio, Jojo. And I went to see her and she said, Rich, do you want to set up a podcast called The Land of Saints and Sinners? I said, what's it about? She says, well, there's something happening in the country, politically and spiritually. Now, this kind of woke in my ears, the spiritual aspect, this spiritual awakening. And I was obviously engaged in politics before. and she said, we need to sit down and look at it.

24:50And, you know, we started looking at what was going on in the country and young people in particular were getting fed up of the political system that it was broken, that it wasn't fixing nothing for them, wasn't offering them nothing, just slogans and buzzwords. And you've seen recent surveys that there has been a real spiritual awakening in the country amongst young people. Now, I'm not talking about the religious side of it now, the kind of necessarily church buildings, you know, oh, man. I'm talking about a real inner awakening. People are, like, looking at the Christian message and thinking, is there something in this?

25:17especially when our Christian message, our constitution in this country right now is facing existential threat. When you look at what's happening with the demographics and our country is changing, people are waking up saying, hang on a minute, I might not be a practising Christian, but there's something about the Christian values that we're losing, that are being eroded, that are being changed and diluted by ideologies that have been imported and invaded into our country. And we need to look at that and we need to say, hang on a minute, because if you lose your identity, you lose your voice. If you lose your voice, you've lost everything.

25:47We don't have freedom of speech anymore. It's all taken away from us. And we have to fight for that. And on that hill, we must fight. And that's one of the reasons. And the other reason why I got back into politics then, had the two years out, is because I could see, I was watching Tommy Robinson from a distance, right? And I could see what he was doing. And I could see the way he was being treated. People like Piers Morgan had interviewed him. All these old interviews. And I was sitting there thinking, this guy's not racist. This guy isn't all these things that people are saying. Yeah, he's a chequered past me.

26:15My chequered past is a lot worse than Tommy's. You know what I mean? I was in prison for doing wrong. Tommy's been in prison for doing right. And so I could see what was going on. And I got speaking to George. We set this podcast anyway. And as a result of doing this podcast, she said to me, I think you need to get back into politics, Rich. I'm thinking, right, okay. So I was inspired for her friendship for 31 years. I've known her. She's an amazingly strong woman. She's got a story herself. You know, I know you spoke to her earlier, Liam. And she's a survivor herself. So many different experiences as well.

26:41And we've both got stories, really. We came together and we thought, you know what? We've been through some shit together. it's about time that we stood up for some of the things that we've been through that we can give back and we can offer help support advocacy and stand up for the rights of people the people who can't speak for themselves who haven't got a voice we need to give these people a voice and of course then Nigel came back in I joined the reform party then what happened right okay so he started slating Tommy Robinson and I think it was Mayor Tucci on one of his programs he put it out there when I did my resignation.

27:14I did it on X. I was slaughtered by... By the way, I've got loads of friends in Reform. Like yourself, you've got people that watch the show. Great people, right? So this isn't about them. This is about what happened and what they did and how the party ended up. I think it's important at this stage because I don't want people switching off from your message because you know what people are like now? People are like echo chambers and if they disagree, they think, oh, I'm switching off. Please don't switch off. Please stay engaged. Please listen to alternative views and whether you love or loathe Nigel Farage, whoever you think is the best thing since sliced bread and he's the only one to save the UK, you can still hold him to account.

27:48We don't want to be lied to. We want honesty. So just sorry. I've got to say that because accountability is so important and the British public do not want to be lied to anymore by anyone, even by their favourite person. Well, that's the thing in Italy because people are looking for an alternative to what we've had. We've had the Union Party, right? We've had the Labour and Conservative Party. There's been nobody else. There's been nothing else. So people are pissed off on enough of those two Union Parties And what Keir Stammer to the country right now, he's failing massively. I mean, I'm surprised we haven't even called a snap election yet.

28:17I don't think he's going to finish a full term personally. But anyway, that's my opinion. And I think the only place people can go is Faraj. Now, I know Faraj. He came to my constituency twice when I stood. He's a lovely guy, amenable. He came to the rugby club at a couple of pints with him, talked to people. Great guy, great guy. And this isn't an attack necessarily on reformed people. This is just the true facts. I watched him change. I watched the man change. on some of the things that he stood so stern on and so hard on, he started to change. And so the man that I had faith in and trust in, and that's one of the things with politicians, having faith and trust goes a long way because you're giving them your vote.

28:53And that's a lot, because people died for our votes and we're consenting, giving it to them, consent to represent us. And so I've seen him change. And some of the stuff more recently on mass deportation and the trans ideology in prisons handed over and with the comments about it as well. I'm just going to be honest. This is what I saw. I've seen all this happening before me. And I thought, I can't belong to this because I didn't want to be part of a party that said one thing but was doing another. And then I seen the treatment, as I've already mentioned, of some of his senior members and some of the stuff mentioned about Tommy.

29:23And I thought, you know, if you've got nothing good to say about something, don't say nothing at all. I mean, I remember Richard Tyson in an interview saying, that lot, that lot. I was that lot. I was at the front of that last protest, Tommy Robinson. I was there, mate. It was patriotic. It was country-loving. There were flags flying. We were singing hymns, you know. We had the guys, you know, it was Christian songs there. It was Land of Hope and Glory. It was, you know, winning back our freedoms. And, you know, the feeling, the buzz, the energy, the excitement. And I thought, this is the United Kingdom.

29:52We are the people. And this is the thing. They were all races there. They weren't just white, middle-class people. They were black, white, Chinese, yellow. We were all there, waving our Welsh flags, our St. George flags, you know. Union Jack was flying. And people were proud to be British. And I thought, this is what we need to see. But across the road in Parliament where we were Outside Parliament Square It wasn't being replicated in that building And I could see how much hunger there was For people to want the United Kingdom To be great again Great Britain and Northern Ireland To be the nation, a sovereign nation That we should be And be proud of our history Proud of our culture Proud of our heritage And not apologise for our history By reparations saying, oh you did this So what man?

30:34We helped so many different countries in the Commonwealth They're becoming dependent, most of them now, some of them. Some of them are the worst. But we have so many different countries to prosper, you know, through what we did during the Commonwealth. And I understand people have got issues with that. Suck it up, Buttercup. I mean, we were a great nation. And I believe that we are right now on the precipice of losing all of that. You know, through our identity, through what I'm seeing happening with the demographics in our country. And, you know, and I know Tommy's always been somebody that's been seeing pigeonholed as exposing the grooming gangs.

31:04But there's more to Tommy than that. He believes in this nation. He's a patriot. He believes in the United Kingdom. And it's great that he's joined Advance UK, by the way. We'll probably come to that a bit later. I'm saying that as a party leader for Advance UK. You want to team me up for the questions I ask you? Yeah, sorry, mate. I see what you did there. Let me cut him with a question then. What's the biggest threat to the UK, liberalism or Islamism? Islamism, without a shadow of a doubt. And I think two go hand in hand because the Liberals support them. So they're working in hoots together.

31:32I mean, let's be quite honest. Most of the people who see these rallies, you know, these welcome refugees people. I mean, they're liberals. You know, they've got purple, blue, green, yellow hair. I mean, they've got... I've seen one woman with a big ball in her, you know, refugees welcoming on about her thing, you know. You know, I can't say I'm supposed to be a Christian tonight. But anyway, I mean, it's just nuts. Why don't we, for the sake of this interview, for this special moment we're sharing together, just pretend you're not a Christian and speak real free. And then I'll ask for forgiveness afterwards.

32:01We'll ask the big man for forgiveness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, this liberal there, you know, with his big boldness saying, welcome to my pussy. I mean, things like that. I'm like, what? Are you serious? These are people that come in here that have changed the demographics and liberals are part of as well this progressivism that says, you know, let's welcome them all in. I wonder how many of those people would let them in their homes. Gary Lindner, remember when he was on about it? Oh yeah, let them in, let them in. You know, with all this stuff that was going on. Did he take anybody into his house?

32:25Did he help? No. All these woke kind of progressive lot on television, you know, who got a platform and stuff like that, talking about, oh, we should let them in. If you speak out against them, you're a far-right person. There's nothing far-right about a mother or a father being concerned for their daughters or their children when people move into their community, undocumented males know nothing about them, arrive here on small boards or by lorries, whichever means they get you illegally. We don't know who they are, what they've come from, and their culture is so alien from our culture. It's not the same.

32:55It's not compatible with British culture. They marry girls at the age of 12. That's not acceptable over here. We don't do that. And when I've seen all this happening, obviously I get really pissed off about it. I get really angry about it. And I've said, actually, even as a pastor when I was preaching years ago, I did say this 20 years ago. The greatest threat to this country is not from the political spectrum. It'll be Islam. I've always believed it because I believe in what biblical prophecy says. I'm not going to go too deep. That's not a Bible study, right? But literally, there is an agenda with Islamists and it is to take over.

33:25Whether people believe that or not, and I'm not saying all Muslims are bad people, I ain't saying that. I've got friends with Muslims. But I know for a fact that their main big agenda is the takeover of the whole, whichever country they find themselves in. That is their agenda. It's in their books, in the Koran. And if you don't convert, you're a dog. You're treated as a second-class citizen. You're scum. The way they treat and subjugate their women, it's disgraceful. They're not British values. They're not the things that we stand for. And they've come in here and they want to teach all these doctrines, like they've got the Shri of Law, the Shri of Courts over here.

33:56They are independent because they have no power. They have no legislative power at all. You know, British law supersedes them. So why are we allowing them to run in our country? Sharia courts, Sharia law. Why? They don't belong here. They should be shut down. And I think people fleeing these countries, I don't blame them. I blame the government. The government have allowed this to happen on our watch and we've let them. And what we're seeing right now, and it's massive, more and more patriots around the country are standing up. I mean, driving down to London today, right? right, via Wales, Birmingham, coming down here today, hell of a journey, right, coming down here, the amount of flags that I saw flying, the Union Jack, it made me feel proud, now people say, you're a Welshman, Rich, yeah, I'm Welsh and I'm British and I'm proud of that, I'm in Shara Cymraig, I speak Welsh, I speak my native tongue, I love my country, I love Wales and I'm passionate about Wales, I love it so much and seeing the decline, because we're part of the United Kingdom, of course, and seeing the decline happen across the country and across the nation, that made me really, really angry and I thought, man, I can't just do a podcast anymore which I'm still doing, by the way the Land Sensing is still up and running just to plug there still up and running with Jojo and Clark and the other team, we still run that and we don't just talk about politics we talk about everyday life, current affairs things that are going on and it's quite controversial, it's quite edgy as well we delve into a whole bunch of stuff and seeing what was going on in the country and running the podcast and going out on the streets and meeting people and talking to people there's a real sense of anger and indignation in people about the way the country's being governed, the way the politicians are just treating us as cannon fodder, taking our votes for granted.

35:33You know, when Labour came into power on this manifesto, the amount of promises that Keir Starmer's reneged on is incredible. I mean, the list goes on. We haven't got time to go through them all, right? But the biggest one for me was the open borders. This happened under Tony Blair. This was a Blairite project. The EU was a Blairite project. Digital ID, Blairite project. All of this can go back to Tony Blair. And he's in with the Bill Gates lot, the globalist elites. He's in with all of them, right? Let's not be the Blair Institute. It's all part of it. It's a globalist agenda. And all he was doing was setting up the government to be in such a position that it's in now.

36:02Open border policies, so we can get cheap labour into the country. But look what's actually happened since. Those open borders have remained. Under the Conservatives, it was the same. So they can say, well, they weren't the Conservatives. They're liars. Even Boris Johnson promising, we'll do this, we'll do that. He didn't do it. He didn't get Brexit done, by the way. We've not had Brexit. It's not been done. We're still part of the ECHR. We're still tied into the WHO. or DWF, all these super international bodies that we're part of, we never voted to be part of those. I never voted to be part of those.

36:32I voted for our parliament to be sovereign in all of its parts in the United Kingdom. And what we've got here, we've got a Supreme Court that is full of left-wing judges and lawyers passing laws. Law should be passed in parliament, not Supreme Court. Get rid of Supreme Court. We don't need it. What do we want it for? Don't need it. So there's a lot of things, really, that I get really pissed off about because I can say, I'm taking the Christian hat off. They really anger me. And I think, you know, we have got a fight on our hands right now. We really, really have. And I'm not just saying that to stir up kind of, you know, emotions in people.

37:03The fight is real. Take a look at our cities around the country. Birmingham, Leicester, Cardiff, Swansea, Wales, you know, and Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, all these places. Look what happened in Southport because that gap of misinformation wasn't put out straight away. Look how all that kicked off. And it was, you know, the government are responsible for what's happening right now. And the tide is turning right now. I feel this spiritually and I feel I can see it as well in front of me politically. The tide is turning. People have had enough. But they're not relying just on politicians anymore.

37:36Hence the reason why, you know, they've seen so many protests outside hotels. You've got mothers. These are just mothers who care about their children. And they care about what's happened to their communities. and they're realising, you know, I read a report just the other day, there was like 400 kind of asylum seekers in a hotel. I think about 40, 49 of them have been arrested for assaults, for a different range of sexual assaults and all kinds of things. So, and that's just one community. You see what's happening in Eppin and everywhere else. Not just Eppin, it's happening everywhere. It's happening in Rousing, Cardiff, right?

38:05There's a hotel there full of asylum seekers. But they don't tell you. You know, Cirque, all these big companies have paid billions or millions of pounds to house them. They don't tell you they're putting them there. They dump them all there. They bring them in secretly at night by a bus. They're busting them all in. Who voted for this? Did you vote for it? Because I didn't vote for it. And yet we're allowing it to happen. And I think what's happening, anybody that stands up to this is considered to be far right. We're not far right. We're just right. There's just right and there's wrong. There is no far left.

38:34There is no far right. That's a fallacy. That's an illusion that has been created by the political establishment to divide us. Because they want us to be divided. That's part of the divide and conquer. That's part of the plan. but what I'm seeing right now is I'm seeing more and more people waking up and uniting and on a common agenda and it's this, we want our country back. We've had enough. Kelly Clarkson here with Wayfair. I know holiday magic starts at home and Wayfair makes it easy. They have everything from Christmas trees and mantle decor to outdoor lighting and inflatables that I'll use year after year.

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40:00Now, we know where they come from. We know their culture. We know their religious beliefs. We know that in amongst them, it's very likely there's going to be radicals in there. We know that we have 30 ,000, 40 ,000 Islamists on the MI5 terror watch list. So it would stand to reason that the unvetted men that are in the country, a percentage of those are going to be ISIS members, Al-Qaeda, however you want to package a terrorist. So we've got terrorists now in the country that we don't know about that are plotting sleeper cells. I think they're going to be networking covertly. And when the time's right, when the order's given, there'll be an orchestrated attack that will send shockwaves through the UK like they never imagined in their lives, like October the 7th.

40:47Now, do you think we can make a change before that happens? Or do you think that's going to happen first? Do you think that's what it's going to take before we really stand up? Well, I think, first of all, the government believe what you've just said, because they're implementing lockdowns in schools now against terror attacks. They're already practising this, right? So this has been put out there already. So the schools are getting prepared for lockdowns, not from a virus, from the pandemic, as I call it, right? I actually believe that they're getting ready. So the government are already passing down from Westminster and Whitehall saying, listen, we've got to get ready for this.

41:19They're expecting it to happen. We do have sleeper cells in this country. Of course we do. You know, we paid people, we brought people, we flew people back over from Afghanistan. Some of them I know worked for the British government when we were over there and everything else. But some of those have infiltrated as well. There's infiltration in every part of society. We look at our parliament as well. We've got pro-Ghazans, you know, the pro-Palestinian lot was being prescribed as a terrorist group. We've got politicians who support them, right? I call it Jez Bala group, you know, Jeremy Corbyn and Sultana or whatever names.

41:45But going back to your point, is it too late? I don't believe it is. I believe we're in the final few moments where we really have a chance. We really, really have a fighting chance. But it's going to take every parent, every son, every daughter, every brother, every aunt, every cousin to say, listen, I'm not just going to sit at home in my little castle and just shout what I agree and disagree with. I'm going to get out. I'm going to get up off my seat. I'm going to put my boots on the ground. Not violently. We do not advocate violence, right? I mean, Tommy's made it clear countless times, as you know, many of the matches and protests he's put on.

42:20Many that I've led, I've led many in Wales, when the vaccine rollout was out, you know, mandatory vaccines, we stood against it. Vaccine passports, I stood against all that. And there was no violence. Well, look at what's happened at Epping because they protested peacefully. Yeah, well, that happened in Lletley, my hometown, Stradi Park Hotel. Case in point, right? I have to say, I was out of politics then, so I didn't go down there, I didn't, you know, demonstrate. I wasn't engaged in politics at all. I wasn't living in the area, anything like that. So I wasn't there. But I was watching it from afar.

42:46And I've got to give credit on the show to those people. They stayed there every single night in tents, camped outside there, stopping migrants going in. I mean, and they won. The government overturned the contract. They bust them all out of the hotel, gone. And that became like a blueprint because this is the first time you think about it across the UK that we'd seen this happen. This was many, a few years ago now, or just over a year ago, I think it was, isn't it? More than that, maybe. Dan on your show has told you that. And that, for me, showed that it can work. So when people go outside hotels and protests, like Eppin you mentioned, people power works.

43:15It actually works. We can get people out. but you've got to have the feet on the ground and people are going to be passionate for that. Going back to the question, is it too late? I don't believe it's too late. I think we are, you know, the nation is in decline. You know, we look at politicians for the answer but I think there's a combination of both. There's a spiritual awakening happening and I think the two are combined. I think there's going to be something going on. I think the church needs to wake up to reality. Unfortunately, we've seen so much corruption in the church. You know, with paedophilia as well.

43:40We've seen, you know, corruption financially. We've seen so many different things happening within the church that people don't have faith in, you know, the church anymore. but there are voices within the church and they're being silent. Where are the preachers? You see them on the streets. What do they, what happens? These good guys, they get arrested for preaching the Bible but you get someone preaching the Quran, they're left alone. Where is the justice in now? That's two-tier justice, two-tier policing, straight in front of your eyes. So I don't think it's too late. I believe that, you know, I'm part of something now, which I'm sure we're going to come to in a few moments, that I believe is going to give people an opportunity, a chance, that there is an alternative out there, that we can do something.

44:19We can shift the dial. We can win our country back. But it's going to take true patriotic people to really stand up and say, you know what, I'm going to get behind this and we're going to win our country back. So the solution for you is church and community and culture before politics. Here's a question. I used to see you on talk TV and GB News. Why don't I see you on those shows no more? Let me go back. Have you been banned from GB News? Not officially, but unofficially. So let me go back. So when it first started, I remember the first week, I was on the first week of GB News when it launched, right?

44:51And the guy who set it up came over. We even talked about me having my own show. I was on regular, right? I was on all the different presenters, blah, blah, blah, most of which have been cancelled. Now you know Dan Wood and Lawrence Fox, you know, I mentioned a few. Quite a few of those guys have been cancelled, kicked off. I was on their regular. My phone stopped going once those guys got cancelled. They got cancelled, my phone stopped going. Talk TV, I was on it once a week. I had my own show called, I think it was Taylor's Time or something like that. I can't remember the name of it. State of the Nation.

45:20That was it, State of the Nation. And we talked all about Welsh politics, of course. That was Mike Graham. And he's still a friend. He's still a friend. You know, I know there's powers above them. But I had a weekly show on there, and all of a sudden, nothing. No phone calls, no contact, no reasons why. I've reached out to them. No response. All I get back is, producer will be in touch with you if a story breaks. And, you know, I'm not chasing people to get on television. I don't have to do that. Do you know what I mean? I'm all about community. I'm all about people. I don't need the limelight.

45:46Don't need it. Simple as that. So they've gone cold. Now, if you look at what's happened recently, when Ben and B went on to announce Advance UK, he's not being nonsense. Rupert Lowe has been apparently banned. I mean, I don't know if that is just USA or it's the facts, but that's what I've heard recently. So there are people like us on our side of the argument who are fighting back against the agenda, fighting back against the globalists, fighting back against what's happening on the mass immigration and all the things we've seen, these undocumented members coming in. And when we speak out, I think we're considered to be too far right for that channel.

46:16It's supposed to be the people's channel. That's what they called it, the home of free speech. Remember when it was launched, the home of free speech? It seems as if being curtailed now. I know we've got Ofcom and stuff like that, and they've got regulations. But when you look at what's happening, and I believe, actually, what's happening now is it's turning more people into independent journalists and doing podcasts that are getting a bigger reach than most of these mainstream media channels are. Way bigger. If you combine them all together, we are the mass. Our voice is much stronger. Because people have had enough of mainstream media.

46:42And I think GB News have become more mainstream media than they intended to become. And I think it might be a funding issue. I think that this is my personal opinion. I think it's become a bit of a reform show. I'm going to get a stick for this. I know. I don't care. I'm going to type. Can I say what this is? Yeah. Now, this is a free speech platform. You're talking to a man that interviewed Bonnie Blue. Despite the backlash I've got, everyone's free to air their views and opinions here. There's nothing off limits for me. Okay, so Reform, right, have a number of presenters on there, some of which are very close to Farage.

47:13They were MEPs with him. I'm not going to mention all of the names because some are good people, right? But Farage is their greatest asset. He has the biggest viewing figures out of all of GB News. So he's pulling in the dollar for him. So if they get rid of Farage, GB News collapses. They've got really good presenters in there as well. But a lot of those presenters were MEPs as well. They were with him in the European Union, right? So for me, and these are people that I used to have contact with regular. I have no contact with them anymore. It's like I've been cut off. I've been alienated. I don't know why.

47:39Maybe because, you know, I'm supporting Tommy Robinson. Maybe because I'm supporting people like Ben Habib and I believe what Rupert Lowe's doing with Restore Britain. Why should that make a difference? If you believe in the freedom of speech, you should accept other people's opinions. It's your right to offend me. If you offend me, then that's your right. It's the freedom of speech, and I should accept that. That's normal. That's what we should be. And, you know, a lot of these guys were cancelled, and I've seen this happen, this cancelled culture. And for some reason, it seems as if, like, like Talk TV and GB News.

48:08They're completely different, separate entities. I get that. But voices like mine seemed irrelevant and others were on our side of the argument when it comes to certain things on immigration and Islamists and things like that. We were too close to the bone for them. We were too risque for them, you know, so maybe we need to be more careful. But you know what? Hopefully this will give GB News a nudge because I think a man with your passion and your vision and the want for change, you'd be great on a panel with someone like the complete opposite who hates Britain like Narendra Kaur. And on the subject of Narendra Kaur, Narendra Kaur, however you pronounce it, the Britain-hating, leftist commentator, race-baiting individual.

48:49I mean, when I first signed up to X about a year ago, I sort of come back after years off. I actually got banned from X. I got banned from everywhere. But when I first saw Narendra on X, first I thought it was parody. Then she was joking. She didn't mean what she said. She's just a wind-up. I invited her on the show. I even had a pleasant exchange. The more I see of her, I just think, oh, you're just a total sociopath. You're just completely detached, lunatic, narcissist, very unpleasant. You hate the country. You know, what on earth are you doing here if you hate it that much? What do you think about her?

49:20Well, I think she's made a career with Nancy. I mean, if you think about it, she wants to be famous, right? I've worked in television. At the expense of our country. Yeah, absolutely. And she's put in that above our country. The way she slags our country off and runs our country down is deplorable. I mean, it's just disgusting. I mean, you know, if you don't like it, piss off somewhere else. Why stay in a country? I would live in a country, right, if I didn't like it. If I moved to Spain, if I moved to Greece and I didn't like the way the country was being run and I didn't like what was going on, I'd just leave the country.

49:48The answer's simple. Stop mourning and piss off. You know, don't hang about. But she's built a whole career. You know, she goes on Jeremy Vine. She does all these, you know, lefty kind of programmes where he won these war programmes and go on there because she gets her opinion heard on there. And, you know, she didn't get picked for Strictly Comes Dancing, right? So, good old Tom Skinner did in a great guy, bish, bash, bosh, you know. I mean, she has a massive, you know, she throws toys out of the pram over it. Like, grow up. That's what you call a narcissistic meltdown. Absolutely. 100%. She could, the mask.

50:17Yeah. I mean, she was mourning and complaining. I've seen her on X because I follow her, she follows me. I might unfollow her. I should have to say it very little. Let's put it to the audience very quickly. Who would you rather see on Strictly Come Dancing, Tom Skinner or Narinda Cowher? And I hope they both read the comments. Yeah, I think they'll go for bish, bash, bosh. I would say so I mean look he's a working class boy he works his ass off he's a family man what can you not like about that guy he's a legend I love the guy you probably know him I know Tom personally he's very much a family man he's full of love and joy and laughter and he's got a good work ethic and also I won't say anymore actually because there's a surprise coming on the dozen with Liam Tufts but I won't mention it September the 13th Unite the Kingdom Rally Tommy Robinson presents are you going to be there and if you are or if you aren't, what's your reason for or not for being there?

51:06Well, there is no reason not to be there. That's the first thing. So you're going? Absolutely, 100%. I'm coming down with my team. Tell me why. Well, first of all, I mean, I've got to say this. I mean, I was quite surprised when Tommy joined a political party, right, as a member of Advance UK, because that was out of the blue, because it's like Tommy's always remained, you know, apolitical, so I'm not with any political party, because as an activist and as someone who exposes what's going on in the country, stands up for the freedom of speech, that's his passion, that's his drive. And he has sacrificed so much, Liam.

51:37I know you know that because you're a very close friend of his and you've seen what he's been through and his family have had to go through. So first of all, I want to put that on record. The man's a legend. I mean, I'm not just saying that to score brownie points with him. Don't need to do that. He is a legend. He's done far more than most politicians. Let's be quite frank about it, right? And I think what people are waking up to, they're waking up to that reality. and I think for me, seeing him join Advance UK, which was a mad thing and, you know, Ben Habib set this party up, we haven't talked about this much and I became a member.

52:06Then I was invited him to be part of the college. Then he's asked me to lead Wales, which was a massive thing. So all this was going on and then I was still coming to the 30th of September before Advance UK. Forget all that. I was coming. It was in, I'm going. Because I was at the last one when they arrested him, remember, just before on that civil case, which Lord Hamer, Lord Hamer, I like to call him, was in, it was Bedfollars, with fucking Keir Starmer anyway, let's be honest, because he got the job appointed because he put money into his leadership race to become the Prime Minister. Once he became Prime Minister, he made him Attorney General.

52:35So it's all back pocketed and stuff for the boys, jobs for the boys kind of thing. And I think the reason why I'm going, forget the crowds, forget the cameras, forget the media, I'm going as a citizen. I'm going as someone who believes in this country. I'm going as someone who believes that our freedom of speech is under attack. And whatever we can do to fight back against that and push back against that. To let that build an opposite where we'll be with hundreds of thousands, potentially a half a million people at that freedom speech rally, or you want to call it, people are calling it all sorts in there, right?

53:07I'm sure you can correct me on that. I would class it as a free speech festival. Fantastic. That's even better. Festival, because we're going to enjoy ourselves. As I mentioned before, the last one I went to, and I tell you what, it'll be a place of so much fun, so much joy, so much happiness, celebrating one another's diversity, because of course we're diverse. You know, I'm Welsh. you're English and we hate each other doing the rugby but apart from that we're mates we're across the United Kingdom and the reason I'm going is because I want to support those who will be there from the youngest to the oldest I want to show support to Tommy who has sacrificed so much and even been put in prison for it and losing his livelihood in so many different ways but thank God he's got a team of people around him that love him and support him in the way that they do because without that and he knows that Tommy knows without his team he can't do what he does he's got a great team And I think it's important that people, and people are, these aren't people who are engaged in politics.

54:01These are people who see what's happened to the country, don't give a shit about politics, but they look at somebody like Tommy and go, he's one of us he is. He's just a bloke like me. I'm a working class bloke. I get what that guy's trying to do. What he's trying to do, I can get behind. I can stand for. And for me, that's the reason why I'm going to be there because I believe we need to fight for our women, our children, especially what we've seen happening with him exposing the grooming gangs because that's still going on in our country. Let's be in an illusion. That is still going on. That is not finished.

54:29There is still more stuff to be exposed. And thank God, what Tommy's also done, he's shown the power of independent journalism. I mean, the amount of people now that grab their phones, I mean, it's just fantastic. They're getting out into their communities and filming what's happening, and it's spreading like wildfire. So he's also created a sense of, you know, you are not powerless, that you can do something. Just grab your phone, get a gizmo, whatever it is you use or whatever, get a microphone on, get out there, and tell people what's happening in the community. And I think that's been a revelation to a lot of people.

55:02And, you know, there are lots of others doing it as well, like yourself as well. Great, great podcast, which I watch all the time, by the way, just to let you know. Is this your favourite podcast ever? Yes, yeah, I've got to say yes for that. You beat me up afterwards. There's a fucking good answer to that one. I see what I mean. Do you know, you've spoke a lot of sense today. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. But that was the best answer yet. No, but seriously, what I like about this, what I love about your podcast in the UK, obviously, you know, UK-based, but yours goes worldwide. It's uncensored.

55:28It's unfiltered, right? You know, basically, I've seen people on your show speak in ways I've never seen them speak before, right? You know, I've met them in public. They've been on other podcasts and they, you know, they cross their T's and dot their I's and they keep it, you know, I must speak like this, you know. But here, it's like, fuck, you know, this is how I feel. And you pull that out. I mean, you know, you pull things out of me. You know, I'm like, take your Christian hat off for a minute, Rich, and just say it as it is. And I'm like, all right, I'll tell you what I say at home. Next thing you're talking about, women's pussies.

55:52I wouldn't go that far. Especially just if I had a bony blue on you. But, you know, it's just one of those things for me. And I think for the 13th September is going to be absolutely crucial. It's about fighting and trying to wake Parliament up and really fighting back for the freedom of speech because it is under attack right now. In every aspect of life, we're seeing it. And we're seeing the indoctrination of our children in schools. We're seeing ideology coming over from other foreign countries, not just in our schools, in our education, in our government, in all spheres, spectrums of life, we're seeing that happen.

56:21And I think people are waking up and saying, well, if anything, if there's nothing else I can do, at least I can go to this festival to say I believe in the United Kingdom. I believe in the nation state. I believe that we need to fight for our freedoms. We need to fight for our democracy. What is right, we need to fight for our children and the future of our children. Because what scares me the most is if we remain silent, if we say nothing, we just let them get away with it. And we can't stay silent. We've got to stand up and we've got to speak out. Totally agree. And I would say anybody watching and listening, if you believe in unity, peace, freedom of speech and the protection of your family and community, you've got no reason not to be there.

56:59Now, before I ask you my final question, where can people find you? And I'll put all your social media links in the description. Right, so they can find me on XRWTaylors, RWTaylors, and at Land Sinners, which is the Saints and Sinners. We're on TikTok. Just search for saints.andsinners. YouTube as well, YouTube channel, find us on Land, Saints and Sinners there. Most of our podcasts are on there as well. And we have all kinds of stuff in there, right? So it's not just politics, it's everything, right? But yeah, you can find us on all those social media channels and I'd appreciate you to follow.

57:28And I tend to follow people back as well because I like the interaction sometimes. Even if I don't agree with somebody, you know, I'm a bit of banter, you know. people take X too seriously, mate. I mean, I've seen Tommy the other day having a bit of banter with, I think it might have been Rupert Law. I thought it was Tommy having some banter with Elon Musk. You know, they banter on X. I mean, you know, it's just banter. I mean, it's just, some of it obviously you can put some serious stuff out there and we expose some of the stuff that's going on. But people take social media sometimes too seriously, I think.

57:52I think you need to take a chill pill. And also you can get a very good message out if it's said in jest. Absolutely. It takes the sting out of it and then people think about it afterwards and think, oh, that was layered. There's some meaning in that. Let me contemplate that because I didn't take offence because it was delivered differently. Okay, so here's the final question which you've been waiting for. For me personally, I don't know which way to turn. I'm politically homeless. I am all for people choosing reform, UKIP, advance, whoever it is they want to vote for, the Tories. Vote Labour.

58:24We've got nothing in common. Just check yourself. Amen to that. Check yourself. But five minutes. Yeah. I'm politically homeless. Pitch Advance UK to me. Why should I vote for Advance? Well, first of all, you represent the majority of people in this country. And that is a shocking statistic because the majority of people don't vote. And I would say that what we have is a party that's different from all the rest. We are a democratic party. We democratise the party the way it's set up. We can get rid of our leader. No other political party is like that. You know, with the college, the structure set up, check our website out, advanceuk.org.uk.

58:58It's all on there. So we can get rid of Ben Abib as the leader of the party if we want, right? So, first of all, you can't do that in any other political party. We stand for nation-state, the sovereignty of our nation. So we will leave all these super-international powers, whether it's the WEF, the WHO, the UN, all of these things that invade our domestic politics and have no place there, that supersede our parliament, which should never happen. And the way that we've been annexed, Northern Ireland has been annexed, gripping Northern Ireland, that's the nation-state, which is part of one United Kingdom.

59:27We believe in the freedom of speech, absolutely in its entirety. Whether it offends people, if it's not palatable, we believe we must fight for the freedom of speech. That is so important to us. Equality under the law. Everyone is equal. No one is above the law. Minority groups don't get treated differently to the British citizens. We will put British citizens first. That's not been happening in this country. And I think the idea that people have said to me, well, you're split in the vote. They say they have this kind of idea because reform exists. There's no such thing split in the vote. It's an illusion, and I'll tell you why.

59:58Because no one's entitled to anybody's votes. Reform don't have an entitlement to people's votes There are, what, 60 million people in this country You know, when they vote You can't say, well, you know, we own that many votes No, you don't People need to vote for a party they believe in And this is why I believe in Advance UK I believe, and I've known Ben since 2016 And I've watched him operate I've listened to all of his podcasts I've interviewed him myself The man is full of integrity He's authentic, he's real And he has not changed From 2016 when I first interviewed him the very same things he was saying then he is saying no he has not swerved he's not changed he's not been blown about by some political wind he has stayed the course and I've watched him and I actually have faith in the man I actually believe in what he's saying and he believes in what he's saying he's putting his money where his mouth is when we get to 30 ,000 by the way we're not far off we're nearly there I'm literally nearly there right I know Ben's on holiday I don't know when this is going out but he's been on holiday he's been fishing he needed a break but literally we're nearly there He's been working his socks off.

1:00:57The team in Wales, we've built a team up in Wales. We're working our socks off. Our membership is growing massively. We've got planned events around country, around Wales, North Wales, Mid Wales, South Wales. We've got massive events planned as well, big rallies. But the real reason why I would say people to join Advance UK is this. Take a look at what our mission statement is. We have a constitution we've written, which if you look at it, is very democratic, unlike any other political party. I speak about reform. Zia, Nigel Farage, they have more shares in our party than anybody else, so you can't get rid of them.

1:01:26They own the shares. You know? So what's something that you mentioned earlier? What's something that happened to Farage? Who becomes leader? All that kind of stuff. So for me, Advance UK is the only democratic party really standing that gives people an alternative because people didn't have an alternative before so they only went to reform. So I'm not saying to hate reform. I don't hate reform. I've got friends there. I've got people who are regional coordinators. They're friends of mine. You know? But politically, I could see Farage changing into something else. Didn't like what I saw in him as a leader.

1:01:53Doesn't mean I hate him as a person. I don't hate people you know but on policy issues and things about how things should be run how our country should be governed I couldn't go with it Benabee pops his head up I'm like listening to him listening I'm thinking I've got this guy I get this guy you know and we're Paul apart you know if you listen to him speak you know he's privately educated I mean I was dragged I got kicked out of school for taking magic mushrooms when I was 15 for goodness sake you know what I mean I had to re-educate myself you know it's crazy so two poles of spectrum and he's like Rich will you lead with us I'm like yes but of course I will but I'll do it you know but it's just and the uniqueness as well the membership is anybody can join and I mean anybody even if you don't agree with you know you have a certain idea about you know immigration as long as you're a British citizen and you love this country and you believe in this country join Advance UK and we will promise that we will fight with every fibre of our being to fight for you to fight for this nation to make it sovereign and great again for an independent prosperous United Kingdom That was a great final answer and we got your twin town moment in the end taking mushrooms at school.

1:02:55And I'll tell you what I'll do, because I've interviewed Ben Habib, thoroughly enjoyed it, couldn't fault him on anything. So we'll put the Ben Habib thumbnail somewhere on the screen. So if you want to learn more about Advance, you can click straight on that. If you enjoy these conversations, as you know, even channels like Talk TV and GB News are being a little bit distant from Richard. Hopefully they won't now because we've got a better understanding of the man. Like and subscribe to the channel so I can keep having these conversations, please. and Richard, your energy blew my hair off and that was great.

1:03:25Thank you for coming on. Love you, man. Love you, brother. Really enjoyed that. Now put your Christian hat back on and stop talking about pussies. Amen, amen. Father, forgive me for I've sinned.

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