This Is BRUTAL: Cat A Prisoner Speaks Out Against Islamists In UK's Prisons: Brad Donovan

23:09And he weren't screaming, Liam. I swear to God, he didn't scream. And I don't remember seeing blood. This is crazy. This is maybe like your furia or just being caught up in the mud. I didn't see any blood. I said, roll him over, because he was getting punched and he was getting done. He was on his front. When that, Chris, his name was, he rolled him over, and I put the blade there on his face, and I cut his face. And with that, he screamed, and he went, it's a fucking blade. So he didn't realise. He didn't see the chopper. He's just felt fud, fud, fud, fud, fud. He's not realised he's being chopped.

23:38So this is a bit graphic, this part. So as he gets off the bed, he stands up, sits up like this, and he goes to run out the door. But I have really chopped at his ankles and his feet. And as he's gone to run, his foot's literally just gone click. It's just gone. It's fucking hanging on by about half inch of flesh. So that was when I put the blade to his stomach all the way down and I pulled it all the way up. And I said, that's what you get for fucking trying to make little girls your cunt. Somehow, Liam, he got out of that gaff. I don't know. And I'm glad he did because I didn't go there to kill him.

24:10I didn't. Yeah, but I hadn't finished. I hadn't finished. I don't know where I was going with this. and I turned to the girl and I said, that's what happens to Peter Foss and I walked out the door. I walked out the door. He got Nick, Chris. I didn't. I fucked off. I went on a party somewhere with me on a bender. No doubt. I went on a bender with me bird and whatever and then I got a phone call for his wife saying, Brad, he's in jail and he's a nine to five man, Brad, you know, Chris, blah, blah, blah. Brad, would you hand yourself in and go and look after him? And I swear to God, I fucking handed myself in and do you know who grasped me up?

24:41Him. Really? He was the grass. I didn't know that. So I found myself in, went into Penterville. Gary's not with me yet. Gary's not with me. When I come back out for the other thing, that's when I go to court and then I meet Gary again. I don't know I'm done for armed robbery at this point. So I hand myself in and I say to the police, well, is this for the nonce? And to be fair, and I'm not a massive fan of the police, especially what I've seen lately, fucking two-tier Britain, but they were good to me. They knew who he was. They knew him. He was a crack dealer. This is not just an allegation of paedophilia.

25:14He was also gone down and he was convicted of this. He battered an old man on a train, stamped all over him. This old man shit himself, literally shit himself. And the old man's phone started ringing. And that's what this guy was trying to rob. And he answered his phone, it was his wife. And he went down the phone. Yeah, yeah, your husband's here. He's just laying there full of his own piss and blood and shit. So he was a horrible man. The police did not like him. And although I weren't exactly their favourite person, they were glad that at least the good of two evils had come out triumphant and fucked this horrible bastard up.

25:43But as I say, you got not guilty. So, do I regret doing what I did? Not really. Because the law didn't do fuck all about it. They believed this piece of shit over two 13-year-old girls. It just blows my mind, that. It's up on the way. Just can't believe that, can you? These girls have done nothing wrong. Fair two of them. And there's two of them as well. Could you get one girl maybe tell a lie? Two at the same time? Fucking hell, against a crack dealing. convicted piece of shit who butters old people and sells drugs around the neighbourhood. Fuck me, it blew my mind. So... What was your jail sentence for...

26:18So I got three and a half years in the end for Gary, me and Gary. The reason I got three and a half, because I only got four, was 19 for robbery. So how did that go down? It went down because they give Gary three and a half. So then I had to wait 18 months for my trial. Believe it or not, I went not guilty to the chopping, even though my fingerprints are on the machete, my co-defendant says it's me, the girl said it was me. You know, one of the buzzing things about the way the girl said it was made, she went, can you describe him? She went, can't really describe him, but he was really good looking.

26:47And I was always made up with that. How mental is your brain? You know you're going away, you're looking at life, but you're made up that the victim's missus said you were good looking. That's fucking insane, right? For the record, are you a psychopath? No, I'm not bollocks. No, definitely not. Definitely not. Like, that man deserved to be hurt. And I... I fully agree. Thank you. And I... Listen... But most people wouldn't have the mindset to do what you've done. No. A lot of people would say they would do that, but when push comes to shove, they actually wouldn't. I've heard it all my life, Lee.

27:18Since people knew what I did, I'd fucking do the same. And I think maybe you would, but my advice to people is, and this is going to fucking blow your mind, because what I would say is don't do that. Because what happened was my little girl, my little sister, she had no dad. She had me. And I weren't the fucking best man, obviously, doing what I was doing, but I looked after her. She's my baby. So what happened to her? I went to fucking prison and left her on her own. So it didn't do her no good. Me doing what I did didn't do her no good. So if I could go back in time and at least wear a fucking balaclava and have a chance of getting away with it.

27:51But, yeah, so that's where you're at in this world. Someone stabbed a Yorkshire ripper right in his fucking eye. Now you'd think not a jury in the land will convict that man. They did. He got 10 years. So I went not guilty on the same basis thinking, come on, right? You're not going to convict me. And they convicted me, yeah. I mean, all the evidence says it was me. Yeah. But I just thought that nine people out of 12 would go, fucking convicted him of that. He's done an absolute wrong. But they don't give a shit, mate. They don't give a shit. And what sentence did you get for that? So I got seven for that on top to run con sex.

28:26So I got 10 and a half years. And I'll tell you now, I jumped up in the dock, absolutely buzzing. And people said, what do you fucking mean? There was a sentence around at the time called the IPP. Yeah. In protection of the public, yeah? which meant they could give you five years and you could do 50. There's people in there now still doing it. So I was looking at that. I'd already done an arm robbery. I'm now up for another arm robbery and I'm now up for fucking chopping this geezer up. So I'm a danger to society. Prosecution stood up and they said, we want Brad Donovan to be given the IPP, life.

28:54Yeah. And I wrote the judge a letter. She was female, the judge. And I said, judge, I accept I've done all these things. I said, but if you look at my robberies, I've never hurt a soul. And I never did. There was actually an article written about me. many years ago saying the politest arm robber in the East End because I used to always say, please and thank you and don't worry, you're not going to get hurt, you're all right. That was my demeanour. But somehow I thought I was a good guy, like as if I was fucking Robin Hood or not, but I weren't Robin Hood. I didn't give to the poor. I give to me, my nose, and the boys.

29:23You know, but it's crazy the way you somehow justify the way you are at that time. So when I tell some of these stories today, please don't think that's the man I am today or that I condone it or that I glamorise it because I don't. and you really don't want to live that life because it's fucking chaos and it always ends in blood and tears. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act?

29:55Oh, no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to live. What are you doing? Setting up my poll. I need to go viral to earn extra cash. And you're going to help me. Here, start filming when I say. Seems like a lot when you could just Depop all those boots. Ugh, resale sucks. They take such a big cut. There's no selling fees on Depop. And it's easy to list. Ugh, really? Huh. Easy. Make money on Depop with no selling fees.

30:38Download Depop and start selling today. Well, I asked you on because I know that that's your ethos, that you're not glamorising what you've done, but you can't rewrite history. You're just telling it exactly how it is. And I've done my homework. I've seen the receipts, so I know that every word you're saying is gospel. Your prison sentence after that was very different from the first four years. So this is all documented. Yeah. If you Google it, you had an incident in Belmarsh with the 7-7 bombers. Tell me the full story in graphic detail from start to finish. Okay, so first of all, I started in Penneville.

31:12I got with Gary. Gary was a policeman, blah, blah, blah. He was a big unit, so he left him alone. It's amazing how everyone said, I'm going to fucking smash the copper up. They come in this job. No one touched Gary. He was 18 stone muscle and he could box. I got moved away, put me in the ACAT system, Belmarsh. Just simply because I went to a different court. Basildon and that meant that he went Belmarsh. So I'm there in Belmarsh. I was about 12 months in. Things were all right. And on the incident day, it was Remembrance Day. Now, Belmarsh prison is different to a lot of other prisons. The screws there are ex-soldiers because they put the burly fucking ex-soldiers in there because they know the clientele is different in Belmarsh than it is in other prisons.

31:49So they are very patriotic, right? I'm not a queen and country kind of guy. But I'm also, you know, I'm a guy that if I'm your friend, I'm your friend. My friend was a queen and country guy. I was actually on the phone to me bird at the time. And the two-minute silence had started. I put the phone down. I'm doing the bit. I mean, mate, the Muslims, the 7-7 bombers, the one that people don't know, they blew the boss up and that didn't they, Lee? Was it about 57 people that died? It was on my wing. And no one said a fucking word to them. This is the craziness. You know, I'm out of your Muslim, black, yellow, pink.

32:18They fucking blew up 57 people. They were innocent people. No one gave a fuck nor was it a word. Including me. Including myself. Because it's just, it's designed. It's all against you. They run the jowls. I'll explain that after. So my pal, Danny Phillips, goes over and says, hey, boys, can you stop playing table tennis? It's fucking two-minute silence. They've obviously told him to fuck off. Oh, I see. This is how it starts. Okay, so during the two-minute silence, the 7-7 bombers are playing table tennis. Ping pong, ping pong, ping pong, right? Okay. Danny, the little bulldog, English. He loves Queen and Country.

32:47He's over there having a go at them. Anyway, we've got banged up. I've said to Danny, he was my cellmate. So I said to Danny, listen, he's only in for slapping his bird. So he was doing like three or four months, Danny. Oh, it's life-changing what happens. So from now, I said, Danny, in the morning, you need to stay right next to me, right? Because they're not having that. They're not fucking having that. He called them cuss and everything. You know what I mean? He's gone mental. In the mornings, come, I do what I always do, straight down, have a phone call with the bird. Danny's fucking not listening.

33:16He's fucked off. Bang. Now, in Belmarsh, you have your staircase going up the middle and you've got your cells left and right. Danny, as you got to the stairs, bang, one come out of there with a kettle. bosh done him with a kettle of his face, sugar in it. The other one's come out of a jar, glass jar, smashed up in a sock. So he's whacking him with a sock, but it's glass jar, so he's jagged. He's fucking face a mess. I come running. I scream. I can't. Screws in air. I'm trying to get to these Muslims and I'm calling them rotten. So now I'm involved in this beef. Nothing happens. I can't get to them.

33:44They can't get to me, but we now know it's on. The screws come take Danny away. It's a fucking mess. I'll never forget the way he looked at me. Traumatic. Face burnt all down this side. face hanging off this side. And I looked at him, I was like, fucking hell done. And he went, Brad, look at me face. And he went, oh, it was awful. I've gone back to me cell, we got banged up, and they said, do you want us to take you down to the VPs, Brad? I said, what? The nonces wing. Bear in mind what I'm in for. Yeah? I fucking cut nonces, right? That's what I do. So, you want to send me to the nonces? I said, what are you on about?

34:14And they were being nice to me, the screws. They were being like, I said, listen, And we agree on what's just happened. We know, you know, what they're doing and that. But Brad, you know and I know, they're going to come for you. At that time, Lee, I didn't understand fully enough that the Muslims, they run our prisons, our ACAT system. Fully run it. I didn't get it. I fall. I've been in jail before. I've done a fall before. I can have a fight. Fuck it. Whatever I do. It don't work like that. But anyway, I said no. I refuse protection. The next day he comes, and when you read the story, you'll see it.

34:45What was that word I said to you the other day? Googleable. Google-able. Google-able. It's all on there. I'm the Tuesday guy. So, and I'll never forget this. All the white boys are with me. You know, and some of them are racist. I ain't racist, mainly. My sister's mixed race. So that's the little girl I keep telling you about. She's mixed race. I ain't got a fucking racist bone in my body. So we're walking down and I've got these white boys. Some of them are racist, some of them are not. We're fucking with you. Don't worry. We're with you. We're with you. And as I turned the corner, they were there.

35:13That's what I fucking knew they were. How many of them? About six or seven. Three on that wall, four on that wall. I just remember some of them had their legs up. They weren't saying nothing to me. They wanted me to walk through. And I thought, I've got an option now. I'm going to be honest. I shit my pants. I thought, turn and run. Just turn and run, Brad. Fuck it. Run to the screws. But there's another voice in you that says, you can't live with yourself if you do that. And no one, you can't be you, Brad. You can't do that. You've got to go forward. And that has stood with me all my life. And that's what I do to this day.

35:43We'll get to that later. So I carry on walking and I swear to God, every five steps I took, one white boy disappeared. And by the time I got there, Liam, I was on my own. I was on my own. And they've jumped me. Bosh, bosh, bosh. But you know when seven people try and get one? I know he was dormant back in the day, so you'll understand. It's not much they can kind of do because they're all fucking hitting each other. And I'm fighting away. And I love the part in the story that says, and they ended up with cuts and bruises. It was a fouled attack. And I remember, though, turning as I'm ducking and weaving, trying to not get hurt.

36:13looking at the white boys going, you're a fucking disgrace. And then I get a left hook and I turn and I start fighting and I just go, you make me. And that was the day I was just so disheartened and I realised we're fucked. We're on our way out as a nation because as much as the distaste in my mouth for what was happening, I also had respect that they stood together because they didn't come just to beat me, seven guys. They come to fight the other guys as well. And they were standing, they stood together, win, lose or draw. My fucking team fell apart before we even got there. And that is where I just don't think we're united anymore.

36:48Did things escalate after that? Yeah, definitely escalate. The governor fucked me over. So the governor's even got to face the problem that he has a Muslim problem in his jail system. They are converting white boys left, right and centre through fear. They're converting them for other reasons as well, but mainly fear. You've got a lot of broken boys in the system as well. They want families. They want father figures. And, you know, the Muslim community, the good side of it, they offer that and it's fucking great. I've never seen, you know, when the white boy comes to jail, the other white boy just goes, all right.

37:16When another Muslim comes to jail, the Muslims are straight away, do you want food, brother? Do you want... It is fucking lovable, some are parts of it. And you can understand why. And also, if you've got beef in the system, if you join the brotherhood, you ain't got no beef anymore because you've got a massive firm. So it escalated for me. The governor went, Donovan's the problem. He accused me of starting a race war in the Belmar system. It says on the story, sources are simmering now, tensions are flaring. So they moved me to full Sutton. Didn't move any of them. Seven, seven, mama's killed, 57 people.

37:47Me, I'm in for cutting the nonce. I get moved. It's always fucking me. So I go on the bus. Hey, catsuit, everything. Chains on like I'm an animal lector. And when I got to full Sutton that day, I realised I was in a different level of prison. Anyone that understands prison knows about the dispersal system. There's only five of them in the country. They are the double A's. They are the worst prisons in this country. And that's where the government sent me. Bear in mind, I only had three and a half, four years left. I shouldn't have been there. It was like people doing natural life. They're never coming out.

38:17I got there. The day I got there, a man had just been killed in his cell. Just been killed. And his belly ripped and bowels pulled out. And I remember going, oh, my fucking God. So I had a hit on me. I've now got a hit on me. And it doesn't go. From the Islamists? Yeah. So a fatwa? Yeah, a fatwa, yeah. To get me. Now, whether that meant death or just cut the fuck out of him, there was another thing they'd do. They were known for it. It's called giying. So when you're in the ACAT system, because you're never coming out, most of y 'all, like I shouldn't have been there. They'd look at me and laugh and go, what are you doing, man?

38:48Shit, shave and a shower. That's how my 10-year sentence appeared in there because the sentences are so high. So they let you cook your own food. It's their way of giving you a little something because without little somethings, them people don't give a fuck. They've got nothing to live for. So it makes the screws a little bit more safer if you give them some of our to cook our own food. But the Muslim boys were known for it. They would have a pot this fucking big, which most of us would just roast, to, you know, cook our boiled potatoes and whatnot. They would put the Indian oil in it, ghee, marmalade, fucking all sorts.

39:16And when you'd be sat down somewhere, they would come behind you and fucking pour it over your head. Now, I've done the sugar in the water and the kettle. It does not compare. Your ears literally slide down your face. You'll never, you don't recover from that. Your face is melted. It's horrendous, the scream that you will hear. So I was very, very fucking aware that I had a fatwa on me. And at bare minimum, they want to destroy my face. So I had about 18 months of that. I got moved from Full Sun to Franklin. Franklin was known to have guys like Kevin Lane. Kevin Lane, Andy Shack, they're really, really tough English boys who helped keep that stuff at bay in Franklin Prison.

40:00So when I got there, I was like, what am I going to do? I'll have a straightener, if any of them. A straightener. There was no straightener to resolve this problem. So I went to Kevin Lane, Andy Shack. They were like, they never ever called themselves the daddies, but they were the top boys in the jail system. You can mention that to anybody who's ever been in the AKAT system. Andy Shaq, Kev Lane. And I went to both of them. I said, what do I do? And they were like, just stick around me. We'll look after you. And they did. And they ended up in Garth Prison, BKAT system, Preston. And that's where the Muslim control is not there.

40:30So they have it fully, when I was there, in the AKATs. So if you can get to B and C, doesn't mean there's not Muslims there. It doesn't mean that there's not, you know, that kind of the violence, but they don't have full control. When I was there, I don't know where it is now. I presume it fucking is there now because it was spreading like wildfire. It was spreading like wildfire massively. I had a tattoo here and I had it done in prison. I had it covered and said this shit. But he said, lonely are the brave. And it was because all the white boys around me, even the blacks, everybody were converted.

40:59Why would you not? You know, you're getting looked after. You've got protection. No one can fucking touch you. But I had a total of said lonely or the brave because I was like, I won't do that. I don't believe in your faith. So I'm not going to fucking join it. You know, that's that. And it was a lot of pressure to join it. Was there any ordinary Muslims that would push back against the radical Islamists? Would there ever be any clashes amongst their own? I never saw that. Now, I saw a lot of good Muslims. This is not me on here saying fucking Muslims, this, Muslim, that. I'm talking about 7-7 bombers.

41:31And if you condone their behaviour with it and you're a Muslim, then fuck you too. That's what I say, because they kill people, right? If you're English and you've fucking done it, I'll say you're a rat. If you're a Christian, I'll say you're a rat. You're a rat, right? So I never, that's one thing I always say, I never see the pushback. Yeah, there was good guys. They didn't get involved. But if that was me and my brothers were going around fucking doing shit like that, I'd say, what are you doing? You fucking rat. Stop behaving like that. And if you do, you don't behave like around me. We would say that, right?

42:01100%. I never saw that. I only saw we're not involved, Brad. And I'm thinking that's not fucking good enough. Like, go and fucking tell him to stop doing this. But no, I never saw it. I saw good Muslims, but I never saw them push back against the bad ones. Yeah, this is a lot of people's problems that you don't see enough of that. Well, I've not seen a great deal of it at all. And to hear it from the horse's mouth in the jail system that Islamists are running it and what are supposed to be moderates aren't pushing back on it. No. Okay, so you push back on your own, for example, you went on a big violent spree in jail attacking paedophiles.

42:38Attacking paedophiles, yeah. So I was known for that. Obviously, you know, when that happens to my little sister, no one likes a fucking nonce, Lee, do they? So I was an angry man. I was a very angry man with the life I had led. So, yeah, I mean, the first time I'd done one, I was in Chelmsford Prison and I was 19 years old. And Lee White, he was the daddy of the wing. He was only little. He had fucking half a tooth missing there. He was funny as fuck, Lee, from Southend. and it was my responsibility because the paedophile was in my cell so he was my bunkie I didn't even know and he went see him broke a four year old girl's arm you gotta fucking deal with that and I was like righto and in my mind I thought he was a big fucker he was a big fucker and I thought I'm not gonna take him on in the cell here because if I take him on in the cell here and I get done there's no one to fucking help me my screws ain't gonna stop it no one and I also thought kill two birds with one stone Let me do it on the wing.

43:32And again, make it spectacular so that people go, leave him alone. Because I was a pretty boy, right? So that's what I did. We used to have the furnaces on the wing where you'd make your hot water. And I remember going to the furnace, getting the hot water. We was out on association, which is where you get to play a bit of pool, use the phone, have a shower. And every time I try and find him, the water's got a bit lukewarm, so I'd fucking have to go back, refill it. And in the end, I caught him. I can't remember what his name was. Just say, John. I said, John. I've done him with the water and then I laid into him.

44:01But I ended up slipping on the floor, right on my arse, because all the water went on the floor. But lucky for me, I'd done a bit of damage before then, and he ran. But before he ran, all the screws come. And obviously, I'm just smashing, and I've ended up punching a bird in the face, one of the female officers, which I didn't mean. But she got me out of the block two days later. They were trying to press charges on me for assorting the female staff. And she went, because she knew what he had done to the four-year-old, she got me out of the block within 48 hours, which is the punishment cells.

44:28And she went, fucking my bad, I wouldn't do that to you, not after what he's done. Said if he's good, you know what I mean? There's good police, there's bad police, there's good screws, there's bad screws. And she knew it was an accident? Yeah, I was punching him and I just, about seven screws just come everywhere. Got caught in the crossfire? Yeah, there was no reason to punch her. There was no reason to punch her, but yes, she got caught in the crossfire. And how many other nonces have you dealt with like that? It's fucking hard saying, isn't it? But I'd done a few. I'd hate to burn them, he's stupid to kill.

44:54He's stupid to kill. In prison, they started giving us prayers for that. That was early on, the affair. But then in the end, they'd give us cattle. So we never had furnaces anymore. We had a cattle. So you could literally just boil your cattle and then just walk out and just go crash. So I did that to a few. But I always made sure, and you say, oh, I actually know he was a paedophile. Well, because we have fucking Google, right? You say, well, you don't have Google in prison. What I do, I ring my bird and go, can you Google Liam Tufts? And it will just come up what you are, what you're in for.

45:20So we knew. So it wasn't just winging it. I don't agree. And, you know, you've got to be careful because screws will tell you that Danny's a nonce. because Danny spat at them. So now they want to get Danny done. So you can't just act like that. You must do your homework before you go and hurt somebody. Okay, so there's screws in there that will pull strings like that. 100%. If you plunge a screw in the mouth, he can't just walk back in your cell and do you. He will, he will, he will sprout shit about you. He'll lie about your paperwork. So yeah, you've got to be careful. So I can, I don't condone what I did.

45:53The violence, the viciousness. I wish that wasn't in me. I remember my dad saying to me, he went, son, I read the paper today about a man attacking another man with a machete. And it was a paedophile that this man attacked. And as I'm reading the story, son, I was cheering on the man with a machete until I realized it was you. And he said, to know that my son was so capable of such extreme violence broke my heart. And I remember getting that letter in prison and crying like a baby because I disappointed me dad. All the boys would be like, yes, Brad, him for fucking doing a nuns. Yes, Brad. But my dad was heartbroken.

46:27And he also knew I'd just lost 10 years of my life again. Did you ever get any outside charges? Did you get an extension on your sentence? Nah, nah. So this is something that's been happening the last 10, 15 years, isn't it, really? So when I was there, it was right at the end. There was outside charges, but the screws weren't going to... We didn't really push it too much. Unless you fucking murdered somebody or really cut them up and opened them up bad. Me, most of the time, I threw a cowl on them and back in my fucking right-hander. And I would always do it somewhere where we weren't on camera.

46:56What about your mental health in there? Did you ever get sectioned? I didn't get sectioned, no, but they put me in the punishment cells for about seven weeks once, and I'm fucking hell. Anyone that knows me knows they always say, Brad, you hate your own company. Put me in a cell for seven weeks just to be bad. And I was in Portland prison. I was only 19 years old. It was fucking freezing. They had a window. You couldn't open a shutter, but it had bullet holes in it to let air in. So you can imagine how cold it is in Dorset. And they wouldn't let you get in bed. So the only thing you've got is a bed and a toilet.

47:24They wouldn't let you go in bed. It was like, they looked through the doors. You get off the fucking bed or you get another week. So you just stand there and freeze your bollocks off. So I remember my mind had gone that much. I didn't want to die. But I was a bit of a fucking, I wanted out of there. I slit all my wrists and I pissed blood all over the cell and they had to get me and then take me to hospital. Of which, I remember getting back. And this is how my mental health must have gone. My hand barely worked. But I still had a wank. And you think, how insane is that? you've just cut fucking through ligaments or tendons.

47:57That literally wouldn't work. And they still kept me in the block. Still didn't have a week in the block. Just started out bandaged up. Now I look a prick in front of whatever prisoners because they think I'm suicidal. And you now know why I asked you previously if you was a psychopath. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Sores is just an act. Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody. There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone.

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49:11When I tell the stories, I said to one of my good friends, I'm really good friends with my ex, and I said to her, I said, how do I tell these stories, Linz? How do I tell these stories without looking like a prick? Because I said to her, you know, I've watched your podcast and loads of my podcasts, and I know some of the guys on them. And I'm like, he's telling the truth there. There was fireblads, and he did bash them. Two did run. How do you tell that story without looking like a prick? It's a hard one, isn't it? Well, I've asked you to come on to tell these stories, so it's not like you were banging my door down, desperate for the world to hear.

49:43I've asked because it's, I mean, I've never, Yours is one of the wildest life stories I've ever come across. I mean, we're just scratching the surface, and I'm sure there'll be more to find out because I put all your social links in our description. So when you get released from jail... Oh, actually, before we talk about your release and that journey, did you have the whole trans madness going on in jail whilst you were there? Was there any men identifying as women? It was one. I never met him, her, whatever, but they were allowed pink pyjamas. They had a bra and stuff like that. that was on another wing and it was always the talk of the jow and I never ever got to meet him or it was obviously it was a fucking hit but he called himself Sandra or whatever and it was tolerated but it was still very frowned upon when you hear about gays in prison and I've got no problem with gays asshole fucking do what you want you're an adult fucking sugar you're like if it's legal it's not animals or children right but people think jow is a gay place where you're fucking men it's not true there'll always be gay men if you get 100 men in this room or in a club there'll be some of them be gay same in prison But it is not a gay environment.

50:46It's not a gay environment. So it's a fucking alpha male environment. Very much so. I think life has sort of become affectionate. I've actually had this chat with Kev Lane. It's like when you've been in jail for decades and like we need affection, at what stage do you think I'm going to... Well, I was there many years later and I've heard all that gay for stay or some shit, like you're gay while you're in jail. Bullshit. For me, if you can stick your dick and another man's actually gay. I was there, I don't know if I spent just under nine years in the system. And I never touched another geezer.

51:16And I was offered. You know, I was offered. I remember there was a little chubby blonde boy. He must have been 22, 23, and he was always fucking on me. But it was nice. I didn't beat him up. I didn't take offence to it. I was flattered. But I was like, fuck off. It's never going to happen, mate. It's not my bag. Well, a question that will tie in with your, you know, with the horrendous experiences you've gone through is, and I don't think many people would have even heard about, the trans age conspiracy. Just wondered what your thoughts on that would be. I think the moment you start accepting transgender, that a man can just say he's a woman and be allowed to use the public toilets to share them with a six-year-old girl.

51:52He's now in the same facility as a six-year-old girl. The moment you legalise that, which I think we are there, the moment that's legal, the moment that's accepted and we're so tolerant, they keep using the word tolerant, be tolerant. Where do you go with that? There's always another step, right? The next step for me is a thing called trans age. People say, fuck off, you're talking shit. Trans age is where a 42-year-old man like myself can identify as a 12-year-old boy. Now, if that's legally accepted, then that means I can legally sleep with children. And that is where I believe they want to go.

52:20People are going, but how can you be 12-year-old, Brad? Biologically, you're not. And biologically, Dave's not got a fucking vagina, has he? But yet you're going to allow him to say yes, and you're going to allow him to be treated as he is. So why can a man at 42 not pretend he's 12 and be allowed to sleep with children? This is where, where does it stop? Where is the line? I haven't seen any line. All I've seen is decade after decade, it go further and further and further. Until now, as a Christian, I'm no longer a Christian. I believe in God. I pray every day. I pop to the church, but I don't believe in Christianity anymore.

52:51And the reason I don't believe in it anymore, there's nothing against gays before you all fucking jump on and you troll bastards, yeah? This is against Christianity being that weak that he allowed his values and principles to change. It says we're not accepting that. It says to me, we're not accepting you, Brad, doing robberies. We're not accepting you, Brad, doing all this shit. We love you still, but that behaviour is not a part of Christian values. You've got to change. You've got to change it. We still love you. God loves you, right? And God loves you gay or not. He doesn't give a fuck. He loves you.

53:21But he doesn't condone this behaviour. And to be a Christian, you are aiming to be better. So when you now got Gay Vickers, I just think, how the fuck have you changed a book that was apparently written 2 ,000 years ago? You just changed it. What, under pressure? You're that weak. because I'll tell you now, you've got to try and change the Quran. And that's why I have to give them respect, Liam. I have to give that part respect that they'll go, we're not fucking changing nothing. And you can't look at Christianity. It's been bended. It's been moulded. It's been changed. Nothing is against God anymore.

53:53Yeah, the church is weak. The church is weak. Embarrassingly so. Embarrassing. And we need it stronger than ever now because we're being taken over. Well, have a look at the country. Have a look at the world. Has it got better? Well, since we took God out of the equation, has it got better? No. Is it fuck? No, well, there's no roadmap for people that need it now. No. But let's go back to your, let's go back to when you got released because when you got released from jail, being known - On the 10 one, yeah. On the long one, where did they put you after that? Halfway home? Stone. Absolute craziness as well.

54:21So my mum, my mum was ill at that time and seropity, so I couldn't go and live with my mum. My father didn't want me to come and live with him and I do not blame him one bit. Fucking hell, he's a normal man, my dad. And I was, you know, crazy at some point, you know. So he's like, fuck that, you ain't come and live with me. So you normally then go to a hostel. But my number one crime was attacking sex offenders. Sex offenders are housed in hostels. So literally, my probation from London put me on a video link and went, Brad, you're released in four weeks. So I said, yeah, no, I've got nowhere to go.

54:50I'm going to have to go hostel. And she was like, I can't let you go to a hostel. So she released me homeless because I'm known to attack sex offenders. So basically, sex offenders get bent over people that hurt sex offenders. And that's where the fucking world's gone mental. Absolutely mental. So I then had to, I did have a drug problem, as we know, and I'm still out of, I'm an addict, me, Liam. So a lovely lady called Jane, she worked at the prison system, she was like my personal officer. I ended up shagging Jane when I come out of prison, but we're not talking about that right now. She's a lovely girl.

55:22So she said to me, listen, you're on this, you're on, fuck all, what are we going to do? We need to play on your drug addiction, brad. So she got me into the Wirral rehab. Big mansion of a fucking place here, massive mansion. And at the time I was the fittest man in prison, I was one of the fittest Kev Lane I know you were number one but I was up there I was really really fit I used to do all my fitness on my training I used to teach the boys insanity on the wind the governor had let me do things like that I was that known for it but I had to go I'd been five years clean I hadn't touched a drug in prison So you weren't in active addiction at the time No but I still was an addict right but five years I haven't used cocaine is my drug of choice and it's not really a prison drug is it you're not going to fuck it's not really available it wasn't it was other shit that was available more like smack and codeine and spice just come into play But it wasn't cocaine.

56:04Every now and then the boys would get a little bit. But I'm not that guy. I'm not like, we've got a gram. Let's have two lines each. I'm like, I didn't bother that. I'm not going to start. So you couldn't go in the hostel because there's six men there. So they've put you in rehab. So I went into the rehab, yeah. And from there, I ended up meeting a lady on tip. My dad said to me, Keith, because I come out of jail, ripped to death, I went in a fat little fucker. I had Jaffa Cakes in jail for four and a half years, walked around smoking roll-ups. Fat little fucker I was. And then, because I fancied Jane, I went, I'm going to get rid of it.

56:32She went to me one day, she went, if you lost a bit of weight and got yourself ripped up, you'd be a stunner, you. I said, fucking right, got on that treadmill and I got what I wanted off Jane in the end and then I just stuck with it. Is Jane going to be okay with this story? Yeah, it's not a real name. Ah, okay. Yeah, but if you are listening, thank you very much. Charles Hansen's his love. Yeah, yeah, she really, she made the last 12 months very, very doable. Got you over the line. Yeah, she definitely got me over the line. No pun intended. No pun intended. do. So you're in this rehab centre now?

57:03I'm in the rehab centre and I, being me, I'm trying to train all these people, you know, and me heart bled for so many of them, Liam, because before that, even though I was an addict, I didn't know I was an addict. I just thought I was fucking, I'm just cocaine, I wear Gucci, mate. How can I be an addict? Yeah, I drive a nice car, I'm not fucking addict. I was an addict. I was no different to them. I was no different to them. So, but I'll tell you, the worst one is alcohol. You know, I mean, And I saw people come off heroin when I was there. I was there three months. And I saw, you see someone come off alcohol, they do a detox.

57:33Fucking awful. Heavy withdrawal. Wow. Shake, sweat. Oh, it's awful. Psychosis, the lot. But I really become poly with him. And I did three months there, and then he moved me to like a halfway house. And that's where I got my freedom. And that was where I got on Tinder. I'll never forget. My dad said, you know, get your top off on there. Get on this Tinder. I never knew where the fuck Tinder was when I went away. We had Nokia 3210s. There was none of that. So I got my top off, and I met. I was going on there for a shag, when I met a God-fearing lady who took me about four weeks to shag her. I'd take her out several times and try and do that on a budget.

58:02I'd fuck all when I left prison. No money at all. No family, no nothing. I was 400 miles away from home. Did you fall for her, though? No, not really. No. But I hadn't had any affection, any love or anything, probably for the whole of my life, but definitely hadn't even had affection for the last five and a half, six years. That's why I wondered maybe you'd fall for the first. No, I've always got all the time in the world for her. She's a great girl. She did nothing but good for me in my life, but she was the love of my life. I only really ever really loved one. Give her a shout out. Andrea Wood, you're an absolute fabulous lady and you were right to fuck me off.

58:33She was right. Yeah, I'll give you that. You're accountable. How did you survive? Because you've slipped in and out of addiction since your release, didn't you? So when I was released early, so I did five years clean in prison and I did five years clean outside of prison. So that's ten years clean in total? Ten years clean. And that's when the choice is on me, you know. I knew all the dealers and where I'd located but I built a gym I built an absolute mega gym 14 ,000 square foot called the Strympatheter Slab I built that where was this? in Wigan where I lived so when me and Andrew split up I carried on with training people that's what I did I thought I'll help them that's the only thing I know sell drugs or do that and I didn't want to do that because I was shit at selling drugs anyway I used to sniff more than I sold so I thought I know how to train I transformed my own body I know what you transform and I became really good at it I built a massive gym massive membership and I did well.

59:23So from there, the drugs came in with COVID. When they shut my gym, they took away my purpose. So I never entered the same drugs. Plus I was with a woman who didn't touch drugs. All the women in my life didn't touch drugs. So when you live with these women and you're in their house and you've got a job as a gym instructor or you own the gym, that really kept me clean. The moment COVID came, I went, I've not got a reason to get up in the morning. I've got no fucking reason. And then I'm hanging about with different people And then the bird at the time that I had at the time, she did a bit of coke.

59:53So it just all fell in place. And I had money. I had money, you know. I got all these bounce back loans through the gym and I just sold a few shares to a couple of boys. So I had fucking loads of money under my bed. I just bought my own little house. And bosh, I went straight back to that life. And I think the gym was shut on and off for about 12 months. And did you literally return straight to the huge addict you was? No, no, no. It took a couple of years to be honest. So I would go. You thought you had it under wraps. Yeah, I'd do a bender. Me and the ex-wife at the time, I'd go on a bender a day.

1:00:26Over the year become two days. But then you'll go and do two months, three months clean. What the fuck was I doing here? Fuck, sort yourself out, Brad. Before you know it, it just came. And the last 12 months, Liam, it pretty much ended up like every other week to every week. It just went well, especially when she left as well. And it wasn't out of the heart, bro, that she left. Obviously, that was my family unit. My son and her. so when she left and she left you know drugs were a massive part of the reason she left there was more to it no doubt but massive so now I've got this house full bedroom house I'm on my own my family's just left and you don't like your own company fucking ain't my own company is it the noise you said to me the other day you've got ADHD you bad and I know I have now it's taught me all my life to admit that people have always said something's not right in the nicest possible way something's not right but you're wiring I went to hospital immediately I was sectioned, you know, back in the day, and they said personality disorder, which I just fucked them off and left when I left.

1:01:24So, like, but I've definitely got ADHD. I'll be doing something over here, and before you know I'm over here, and I'm telling you about that, and I'm everywhere. You'll probably see it on the interview. But, yeah, the addiction, then she left, the baby, and it just got worse and worse and worse. People thought, and I thought, all right, this is definitely the time to fix up now. You've got to, you've just lost your wife. Your son's no longer here, which broke my fucking heart. But it didn't work like that in my addiction. My addiction went, fucking can't face that. I can't face that. So I went deeper and deeper and deeper until I've only been clean four weeks.

1:01:57Smoked all my life. I've not had a cigarette in four weeks. I've not had a beer. I've not had a line. Fuck all. And I feel really different. Some people think, oh, fuck off, Brad. You'll fuck it up next month. Well, that's my problem. But I feel different. I've had to move. I've moved again. It's hard to believe because, I mean, you are an absolute vision of health. To look at the naked eye, you're a vision of health. Yeah. You wouldn't believe that if you saw me with the benders, Liam. Like, I do. For the first 10 years or 20 years of addiction, whatever, it was a one-day bender. I couldn't afford much more than that, you know?

1:02:26And sometimes 36 hours. My last benders, Liam, were touching 11 days. I spent fucking thousands. That's no bullshit. My dealers will be watching this. They'll know. And you've slipped into psychosis. Psychosis. What sort of things have you seen? Well, everyone knows. Whoever's watching this from Wigan three months ago, So, you know, I think I was five, six, seven days deep into a bender. Bear in mind, I spend all that time on my own. And when I ring the dealers, I say, don't give me none of that bad shit. You give me the fucking hard shit. I want none of it. I only have the hard core. I sit on my own and I just fucking go.

1:02:58So I've been away five, six days. All of a sudden, two geezers are punching fuck out of me in my house. And they're demanding. I just made money. I just sold the gym. So I just made money. My gym's gone. I've sold it. And they're demanding that money. I run out the house in my shorts and I run to the local pub. Now, I'm not the toughest man in the world, but I definitely won't run out my house if you come to my house to rob me. We will fight. And one of us is going to fucking die. You're in my house. That's my car. So I don't believe in that. So, but I've run out the house. I'm crying. I'm like a fucking bitch.

1:03:30Help me someone. I run to the pub. I say, call the police. Get me help. Police come. I say, you're not police. Look at that. That walkie talkie's fake. Fuck you. I'm not coming outside. They're like, Brad. I used to go to your gym, Brad, please come with me. I want to help you. I said, they're outside. They're going to kill me. The nurses have turned up. I've got eight police in this pub, and I've got six nurses all trying to talk to me. Yeah, and I'm saying, you're not really a nurse. Show me your ID. Ring your boss. Let me... I can see the police saying to each other, like, we're going to need to fucking take him down, but, you know, he's a big cunny, yeah?

1:03:59They end up convincing me. They put me in the ambulance. They strapped me up in the ambulance. But my neighbours turned up. Big cage fighter, Andy. Lovely guy. He went, Brad, there's no one in the ass. I said, fuck off, you're involved, you. You big bastard, you're involved. My other mate turned up, Mike White, and he went, psychosis. And as he said it, it was like a spell just went boom. And I looked around and I realised there was no men in my house, Liam. It didn't exist. The nurses were nurses. The police were police. I was one of the people who said, please call the police. I would never, listen, I ain't no gangster.

1:04:29I never have been. But if you want it with me, I will not be calling the police. We can do it however you like. So for me to run around and say, call the police, I'm gone. My mind. and I broke down then and they took me to hospital. That was your rock bottom? Rock bottom, but you know what I did? My mate come and got me. Come and got me, took me home after the hospital, got me loads of food and all that. I went back out to the car, the quarter in the car, boom, straight back on. Straight back on, ended up falling on a knife. Fell on a knife. I'd put knives all over the house thinking whoever's coming for me.

1:04:55I fell on one in the bed, stabbed my leg, fucking blood all over the bed. This is where, and like I say, I've only just stopped. I've only, I've only just stopped Lee and I hope and I pray that I keep it that way because I'm losing my boy. My only true, true love on this planet is my son. And I've been a piece of shit, you know, because the addiction, this takes you further and further away. As much as I know I love him, I blame Dan. And I don't blame his mum for saying right now you're not seeing him. You're not seeing him. She knows I'll never hurt that boy. She knows deep in the heart I love that boy.

1:05:31But she also knows that when I'm in that way and if I don't sort it out, I'm meant to pick him up on Friday. I'll not turn up. I've been on a fucking, I'm on a bender. See, the thing is, you know that you're doing wrong. Absolutely. You're not making excuses, are you? No excuses. Which most addicts do. Yeah. So you can only, well, I can only tip my hat to you because I know many, many addicts and they'll make every excuse in the book. They've become professional liars. They learn to live, to manipulate everyone. So they take different routes. They think differently. They behave differently. They feed you any bullshit line you want, but they'll never be accountable.

1:06:03So the fact that you're four weeks clean and you're acknowledging your wrongdoings and agreeing with the mother of your child that you shouldn't be near him at the moment. Yeah. I think that's progress. It is progress, mate. I've always been that sort of person. I have to say, if I do something, I'll tell you. I've never been known as a liar. If I fucked up, I'll put my hands up and I'll say I'm sorry. Do you think bare-knuckle boxing could save you? Talk to me about this journey because you've now got yourself in the bare-knuckle boxing scene. Yeah. And I've just recently signed for BKB, which is the biggest in the world.

1:06:38And I can't fucking believe it, Liam, because I did that as an addict. And you've got one of the most viral knockout videos as well. Yeah. So when you fight, you go in for the kill, don't you? It's not a bit of a fight. You've got to, isn't it? So that started. And you know why it started? I honestly believed it would save me from addiction. There was a guy in my gym called Dan McGrath. And he was a friend of mine. He was a medical fighter. And I said, I fancy a bit of that. Can you get me involved? And he did. And I bottled the first one. because of drugs. I went on a session. Also, I went, as you do, paranoid curtain twitching.

1:07:07I can't do that. Anyway, I ended up finally doing it. And I thought there's no better way to stop me doing drugs than knowing there's going to be a man training for eight weeks to bare-knuckle punch my face in. So it's going to get me clean. It's going to help me. It's going to save me. Keep my family, you know, through bare-knuckle fighting. I've had five fights so far. I'm four on one. Been to Poland and Gromda. I've done it all. Every one of them, I was off my nut. I was fucking off my own at the end. Really? Like, I was coming off benders on a Thursday, Friday, fucking fighting on Saturday.

1:07:39And, you know, Italian, it's no different. I've just been to Amsterdam. I didn't go on a bender there. But I went on a bender three days before Amsterdam and then come back, fought the Italian, three days later, I'm back on a bender. You know? So it didn't save me. It didn't save me. No. Can I now, now I'm in the right frame of mind? Yeah, definitely got more chance of it helping me now because BKB do random drug tests. This is real professional. I hate saying I'm a professional bare-knuckle fighter because it just sounds fucking corny, but we're conjuncting professional bare-knuckle fighters.

1:08:09It's where it's going. It's where it's going. It's where it is. So I do drug tests now for BKB, which is great for me. I'm accountable. It helps. I need loads of little things to help. Yes. Knowing I can't see my son again until my wife, my ex-wife, is happy that I'm not going to let him down anymore. I have no doubt. She never ever thinks I'm a danger to him, but she does think you're going to let him down. And letdowns are traumas, aren't they? And you agree that's fair? 100%. But I agree as long as you've got to open the door, you've got to have a time limit for when I show you that I'm dealing with it.

1:08:39And it's hard for people from the outside to see or believe that because they've probably seen and heard it all before. What's the biggest battle you've ever fought? The drugs, mate. The drugs is massive. It's massive. But shall I tell you, these are the things. Right now I'm not on the drugs, right? Four weeks clean. But here's the problem. There's a reason I do the drugs to the way I do the drugs. And that now is where I'm at. So no one does what I do, fucking five-day benders. Absolutely, really physically fuck myself up. Like, my ribs are on show. I can't fuck. I'm blue. My mind is shot to bits.

1:09:09I've just ruined my reputation. I fucking hate me. I hate me. Everyone's talking, brad. No one's talking worse about me than me. So, but there's a reason you do that. So people see the iceberg. They see the cherry on the cake, which is the drugs. Fucking on the bender. But the question is why? What is chewing you up? What are you escaping from? Let me ask you. Fuck it. I just think it's all a childhood trauma, Liam. You know, my stepdad knocked me out in front of my whole school. That was traumatic. I was like one of the boys at 14 years old. Bang! I just knocked out in front of him at school.

1:09:39He abused me a lot. Not sexually. Physical abuse belittled me. I had acne when I was growing up. I had really, really bad acne. And I was belittled. He just called me, you spotty little c**t. All the time. My mum would hear this. My mum would allow him to do this to me. She would sometimes join in. I remember once a punch in the nose blood all over the kitchen and she walked in and she just went you better clean that blood up you know so there's a lot of fucking anger and there's a lot of trauma there's a lot of trauma you know the stuff that happened to my sister a lot of stuff happened in prison you know the podcast is an hour or so you know you can't get through a lot but there's a lot of trauma a lot of hurt and a lot of it Liam at the start when I was a kid wasn't my fault I'm innocent but what happens is when you become a man I cause my own traumas then yeah so I would Someone would love me.

1:10:25Girls would love me. Yeah. And I would, because of what I'd seen my mum do and all the rejection, the pain, the mess. I would push that person until they left me and then that would add to my trauma. Oh, she left, she left. And I knew they would. I knew they would. Rejection, rejection. Rejection. I was addicted to rejection. I'd walk in my class sometimes at the gym and I'm not being big anybody. If there were 20 girls in that class and five of them fancied me, yeah, let's say, I wanted the one that fucking didn't like me. That's just how I was because I was addicted to rejection. And I didn't realise that.

1:10:53I didn't know that. I didn't know, but this is subconsciously going on because obviously I was rejected by my mother. She never gave me the love and care that, you know, I warranted. Every child, we want that, don't we? We deserve that. It's heavy. Are you going to, I mean, I think if you was to do the boxing, I mean, because like it's, you know, it's fight or die. Well, it's fight, fit or die. Yeah. You can't be turning up at your nut if you want to go the distance. You combine that with some regular therapy. I am working with a drug worker. It's not quite the 12 steps, but it's just someone to go back to every two weeks.

1:11:25You do a test. You talk to them. Tell them how you feel. And this was the lady that said to me, Brad, your ADHD. And this is when I've started to realise using drugs with ADHD is fucking chaos. It's different to other people. This is why I react different. I've got mates that, you know, for me, cocaine. I know men that use it and they become confident. They have good sex. They think they can fight. They can talk the fucking knickers of a hind donkey. Me, this is not big-headed, but it's true. I can fight, I can fuck, I can talk to anybody. Yeah? Have a line of that. I'm hiding in my own house.

1:11:59My dick's like a fucking mushroom. I can't fight, can't fuck, can't talk, can't do nothing. And you think, well, that has to be mental illness to use that. Why would you use that? I get why Danny uses that. Danny uses it. He becomes fucking cool as fuck. He doesn't ruin his life. And he goes back to work on Monday. It ruins my life and people like me. And that's the difference between users and addicts. But the thing is, you want to be clean, don't you? 100%. You want to stay clean. You want to be a better man. I'm embarrassed. It's one of the reasons I continue. I end up on four and five days.

1:12:31Because on day two or whatever, I'm like, oh, my God, who are you? I look in the mirror, shit around my nose. I've lost weight. I'm fucking stink. And I think, who are you? I mean, that's the thing. You start the drug benders because you want to escape being you. And then you want to escape that person. And then that person. Even more. Because you become worse and worse. So you go deeper and deeper. And that's what it was. I wasn't trying to get high. I wasn't, the first line is to get high. Now it's to stop me coming down. Because now you've made everything, whatever you were trying to escape, I've made it 10 times fucking worse, right?

1:13:03Of course I have. I've gone on a bender. Now the fucking missus has gone nuts. Now this, now you've not, you've spent that, you've done this. So you've made everything worse. You create more things to escape from. There you go. And that's what happens. I hope that that chapter of my life, I'll always be an addict. I tell you what, Say something now to yourself that when you watch this back and every time you watch this back, you hear it. Why do you never want to take drugs again? The number one reason I never want to take drugs again is because I want to be a good father. My little boy down here is everything to me.

1:13:36And although my previous behaviour has said that, he's not. Of course, you know, with the drugs, selfish, horrible c**t that I have been. I eradicate them drugs out of my life and anyone that knows me knows I'm a good man and I can be a great dad and he deserves that and I want that and that is the main thing. The bare knuckle being the champion, all of that is second to my boy and that is the mission and it's taught me long enough, she's been gone long enough, it's time to fucking make that a reality and he is my driving force to do that. And do you like who Brad Donovan becomes when he's on drugs?

1:14:13I fucking hate him. I hate him. Describe him to me. He's got no morals. That guy's got no morals. I've got morals. I swear to God, if you drop five grand out of your pocket, I would chase you off the street and give back to you. If we was on a bender and it come to the last little bag, you'd turn around, I'd fucking nick that bag off you. You know, I've got no morals. I, you know, I have done all sorts on the gear. I've rubbed people on the gear. I've done everything, you know. It's vile. I have no respect. I lost my family because of it. My dad doesn't speak to me because of it. It's just a game changer, mate.

1:14:44And as I say, I'm extreme. I never started in boxing and went to bare knuckle. I went straight to bare knuckle. I don't do anything by half. So when someone else has a gram, I'm doing an ounce. I'm with seven days. It's awful. But with that comes massive consequences. And I paid the price for that. What's your biggest fear? My biggest fear is not changing. It's not changing. And my legacy, because this is not being fucking big-headed, but I just think I'm built for so much more. So much more than sitting in the fucking dark room, watching porn up, wanking a mushroom of a cock for three days. You know, I'm built for something.

1:15:17Yeah, it does not change. My legacy to be, he's a fucking junkie. He's a junkie. And everyone say, what he could have been. And I never got to reach it. Because I know that God has put me here for something else. Because I should be dead. With the life I've led, with the things that have happened to me, I should be dead. 11 day bender. 11 days on my own. To where the dealers are saying, Brad, I can't give you no more. You're fucking blue. Like I would go blue, my circulation would stop. And I would say to them, don't fucking start all that shit. You start me on the bender, you finish it. That's who I say.

1:15:53And I look now, they're only trying to save me fucking life. But, you know, when you've got a grand of me, we'll stop when I say. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me, let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this? Sores is just an act. Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh.

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1:17:14And then be back sat here in a year's time with another story, but a nice positive story. Although you have said some things that I really admire. I mean, anyone that deals with sex cases correctly, I will tip my hat to them. I don't care how extreme it is. For me, they all need to swing. So for that, I think it's tremendous work. Some people will agree. Some people won't. I don't give a shit because I know the damage that these sex cases cause. It's everlasting. 100 % Liam. And it's just a shame that our system, I believe the system is rigged and it wants paedophilia. And people say, what do you mean?

1:17:47Well, I say, okay then. If me and my mate have a conversation on WhatsApp and we send each other pictures of a bank Barclays and we talk about how much enjoyment we're going to get over getting 50 grand out of it, yeah? We'll get 15 years in jail for conspiracy to commit armed robbery. Now, let's change the bank and the money for children photos. You have pornographic photos of children. And we're going to get gratification over looking at each other's photos because we're fucking nonces. We walk from court. Hugh Edwards. We walk from, yeah, Hugh Edwards. So how can you tell me that at the very top they don't condone it?

1:18:20Because they'll give me 15 years for talking about robbing a bank. But they won't give me 15 fucking minutes if I talk about, look at that sexy little fucking seven-year-old. Yeah, nonces. And they should be eradicated. The only thing I've got against the death sentence forum is making sure they did it. Yes. You have to fucking make sure. And if you're sure and you're certain, fucking castrate them. If I'm in the river, who gives a fuck? Have you got any regrets? Yeah. I've got a lot of fucking regrets, but one of my biggest regrets is I was, I think, I'm in a new relationship now, so it's hard to probably talk about this, but it would be wrong to tell my life story without mentioning the girl that was the love of my life, and that was a girl called Lindsay.

1:19:02I met Lindsay, I wasn't too, after Andrea. and me and Lindsay were just something else. You know, at the start, we were an absolute power couple. We were either fucking or fighting, though. There was no in-between with us. It was non-stop. But she was, in my world, the love of my life, and she never did anything wrong to me. When I talk about the fighting, it was always fucking me. It was always me. I'd shag blah, blah up the road, or I'd, you know, been messaging some fucking slut. Whatever I'd been doing, it was always me. And she was the love of my life, and I fucked that up. and we're now good friends and I'm so happy that she's back in my life and we're good friends and the respect I have for her is unbelievable.

1:19:41And that is a regret of mine. A regret of mine dipping my dick for short-term gratification and losing the woman that, the only woman I've truly ever wanted to be with. Obviously now we're friends and I've got a new bird and life has gone that way. But to tell my story without mentioning her. We'll be wrong. We'll be fucking wrong, yeah. And it might piss off the new bird Oh, you bet. It might piss off some of the other birds. You know, Lindsay was the one. And if you watched on Story Together, it was chaotic. But wherever you put me, it's going to be chaos. That doesn't mean you're chaos. It just means I'm chaos and it comes with me.

1:20:19So she wasn't chaos for me. She was a good girl, a good woman. And whoever's lucky enough to end up with her is on a winner. And in an ideal world, what does the future look like for Brad Dunman? Back with my son. You know, I get my son. maybe have him every weekend or whatever, a couple of days in a week, whatever suits, whatever suits the ex-wife. I just want my son back because being a dad is so important to me and not letting him down, Liam, breaks my heart. He's broke my heart. So that's massive to me. But also, I really do want to become something in the bare knuckle world. You know, and I'm on my way.

1:20:53I don't know how. I look sometimes and I'm like a conflicting character. You know, I lay on my bird's belly, slap my thumb, I pissed the bed till I was 14. Yeah. Bullied, victim and I'm very much loving. I'm very loving, very loving. But when we get in that ring and that bell goes, something just switches on and I just want to fucking break your face. Now, that's not ego. Oh, I'm hard. It's just the truth. And I also know, but I'm doing it to a man that wants to break my face and is capable of it. So a lot of people, they go, yeah, I'm a fighter. I knock blah, blah in a pub. It's like, that's not a fighting man.

1:21:27Most times you hit people. Even me, you know, I'd be arguing with a fellow in a pub and bang and I hit him. That's not a fighting, man. That's not a fight. A fight is, are you ready? Are you ready? Let's go. Yeah? And you both had eight weeks to train for it. So, you know, anything other than that is not a fight. So I feel like I'm born for that world. I'm coming up to my sixth fight. I've only been in it for 13 months. That's very, very, very active for a bare-knuckle fighter. Most have two a year. So I'm doing well. I'm, you know, I'm four and one. I've just been, I got asked to represent the UK as the captain of the bare-knuckle team when we go to Gromda again in Poland.

1:22:04But do you know what upsets me, Lee? Someone says to me, what would you say you're good at, Brad? And I said, fucking hurting people. And I don't just mean physical, you know, bare knuckle and all that. I mean, when I look at my legacy so far in my life, it's hurting people. I'm now known as bare knuckle fighter. I hurt people. Lucky for me, I am hurting people that want to fight. The people that I've hurt mostly are the people that I love. And that right now is my legacy. I want to change that. And would you say that's down to addiction? Nah, not all down to addiction, Lee. You've got to take fucking responsibility.

1:22:38Some of it is down to trauma. So when you're traumatized as a child, you end up doing shit that then leads you to certain places like prison. So now I put myself in prison. That wasn't my mum, my dad, my stepdad. That wasn't no one else. That was me. Don't get me wrong. Them choices are affected by your childhood. But I ended up causing my own traumas. I ended up choosing bad roads. I did. Was I influenced? Was it my circumstance, my environment? Definitely. But I still had a choice. I still had a choice. I had a choice. Should I stay with that good woman? I didn't. I had a choice. Should I not commit that crime?

1:23:11I didn't. Should I take drugs in the first place? I wasn't a dad when I first took them. I didn't. I took all the fucking wrong choices. But the good thing about my story is, mate, I'm still standing. I'm still here. Somehow I've gone for all that. I've still, anyone that knows me knows I've got a good heart. I've got a really good heart. if you're vulnerable, old, disabled, anything like that, right, I'm very, I feel like, because you're not a threat to me, I can be so gentle and loving around you. It was written about me in prison. It said, when a vulnerable prisoner comes on the wing, Brad is very round and looks after him.

1:23:42When a guy comes on, another tough guy, whatever, my back goes up. And it's just not because I want to attack him because I feel he's going to attack me. So, but I've got to work on a lot of stuff. I really have got to work on a lot of stuff. And will you document this online? Yeah. Yeah, I'm a very, very vocal on social media. So you use your Instagram to showcase your progression? Definitely, yeah. My fight's next month at the O2 Arena, and I put on my post every day, and it's either talking about my addiction, God, or my fighting. And hopefully it's normally about my son, but I've not seen him for six weeks now.

1:24:15So that's my social media. So if you want to give me a follow, come down to Brad1523 on Insta. Okay, I'm going to put Brad's social media links in the description. I mean it's a hell of a life story it's one of the maddest ones I've ever heard if you want to continue following Brad's journey he's going to document it on his social media which you can find links below like and subscribe to this channel so you can keep receiving conversations like this that you're never going to hear on the mainstream because they're far too wild and for me I know that people like yourself and even people like me we're always going to be in recovery but I hope you recover definitely thank you so much Liam I appreciate it brother no way bro nice one big love man yeah man

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