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21:47Yeah. When I get to the top of the stairs, see, I can't remember. The other thing I was thinking is I wouldn't have, even in this situation, I don't think I'd have hit him unless he comes at me. And I was thinking that the whole time. And I know myself. Yeah. So I'd have done everything I can to avoid it. But if I had to, I'd have had to fight. And as I'm watching the footage, we get to the top of the stairs, I move out the way, he fucking comes charging at me. Like, charging at me with his hands up. Charging at me. And then he gets hit, and that's when he goes out, you know? And then I just look at my solicitor, and I'm like, the fucking hell am I doing here?

22:18In all honesty, why am I saying? Why have I just been nicked on the GBH Section 18? Why have I... And at this point, I didn't know it's all blown all over the internet. I didn't know that it's on the Daily Mail. I didn't know any of this. But I looked at the coppers. there's never been a better example of self-defense I've ever seen. So I'm thinking, why am I being questioned? Why is he not under arrest? He's clearly the aggressor. He's clearly attacked me. He's come at me fucking to physically assault me. And I've tried everything to get away from him. So I'm watching all this. And at that point, I was just like, at that point, I knew.

22:54They still bailed me. But at that point, I knew. He's done. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro Plans. And we're back. streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.

23:34Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The certified fresh series returns. Your boss. You always like this or is this just an act Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. It's done, man. Did he press charges or did he want to? No, he didn't give any statement to the police. So you didn't even find out his name? No, nothing. There was nothing from him. Nothing. He probably woke up and thought, I've done it again.

24:08And people do fuck up, yeah? To be honest, people get drunk. Now, my issue here is, my issue, serious issue here, is what's happened to Charlie Kirk, yeah? Is there has been a target put on me by liars and frauds within the media. And this is why I have such a problem with Nigel Farage, if I'm honest. And I think he needs to own this shit, yeah? He said on TV, I've got conviction for violence against women. That's just bullshit. You see what I think of a man who violently attacks women? I think he's a scumbag and I think he needs a slap in most circumstances. And many men think like that. So I might be walking somewhere where someone who listens to Nigel Farge's lies decides to plant one on me.

24:43So this gentleman who confronted me in St Pancras, I don't know if I blame him. Because if he's picked up on Camilla Tominley, who says I'm a white supremacist, Nigel Farge, who says I commit violence against women, any of these things, he might see his actions as justified after a few beers. Here's this little prick who's a white supremacist who attacks women. That's what he might have thought. I don't know, yeah? Here's this racist neo-Nazi. All of these things and these labels and smears that have been put on me by the media, which there's no truth in, yeah? And then they do that in the hope that someone else deals with their problem, which is to get rid of you.

25:17And this gentleman did it. And I was worried about him. As I said, I didn't wish him any harm. I hope he's had a full recovery. drink, does crazy things to people. We've all been there ourselves. So yeah, I don't hold any grievance against him, but it was a scary moment. And do you know then, I remember, because my son's out there, but I remember going in, when I got home, by the time I got home, it was probably six in the morning. I opened up my son's room and I woke him up and he went, because he was expecting me to be gone. He goes, you're out. I said, yeah, man. I said, like, there's nothing to worry about, son.

25:47There's nothing to worry about. He's like, oh, dad. I remember waking him up because he probably didn't expect to see me again for a while, for at least a year. I said I'm going to be gone for a year on waiting for trial. So, yeah, it was all a worry, man. It was all a worry, man. The whole thing was a worry and it was a scary situation. But also the comfort out of it was that everyone had my back. Well, anyone that knows you personally will put their life on and say, Tommy isn't going to hit anybody for no reason. He never has and he never will. I have to sometimes. I've had to learn over the years.

26:15People would love to think that you would do that. People who know my story, people who follow what I say and followed my stories and followed my reactions with the public for years, they know. But then people who don't know me think he's a hooligan thug. This year's resolution for me, I'm going to have to stop arguing with idiots on X. You'll have someone on X say something about you and I normally just think, you know, just ignore them. But then I'll have to say, actually, that's incorrect. No, I know him. No, no, no, I know him. You don't know him. I do. He didn't do that. Fact. End of story.

26:46End of discussion. Case closed. But they just won't have it. It's like, I was there. Not good enough. You wasn't there. Not good enough. So I think this year, I think the trolls have to get completely ignored. I always say ignore them. Ignore them. I learned that very quickly. Don't feed them. Yeah, but sometimes we do. It's fucking, I know, it's hard. Do you know what's good for me? Sometimes I quote tweet them, but in a mocking way. I had to sit for five years of censorship and watch people just lie about me. Every day. Media, journalists, politicians, and I couldn't even comment on it. They're still trying to do that, though.

27:17Still, even though you've got your right to respond. They're still trying, but I don't even need to comment anymore because the public tear him to pieces. What are you going to do about Nigel Farage moving forward? Are you going to cut him some slack? Still pressure him to make an apology? I think he needs that question. Is he going to cut me some slack? Yeah. It's him that's lied about me. You know what I mean, though? Yeah, I know what you mean. Are you going to sort of think, oh, let it go, or are you still going to think to yourself? I'm fucking out. I'm still upset every time I think about it because I think about, do you know more so?

27:44I think about the timing of it. I was sat on solitary confinement for a non-crime for making a documentary. He used his position to justify that imprisonment of solitary confinement, but not just to justify it, to then go on a full-on attack. Whilst my kids are at school, my ex-wife had to make a massive statement, had to sit my kids down and say, you might hear today that your dad's beat your mum up. He has never beat me up. But I think you put my family in that situation, I'd say in those seven months, a very difficult time for my family. Now, I don't mean to be... I don't think Nigel's faced much difficulty, really.

28:21He's a multimillionaire city banker who has round-the-clock protection, who has always had this. I don't think Nigel's experienced a second of any real problems. He might have had a few smears and names. But he hasn't lived in fear. His family haven't. His family, his children have gone to privately educated schools, have probably been mainstreamly accepted. I don't think he's had many worries, really. But I don't think that... I think he's done great stuff. I think he's done brilliant stuff. I don't understand why he keeps attacking us. Not just me. He attacks all of us. I just wish he would retract that statement.

28:57Just retract... Own it. No, no, no. Own it. That's the right thing to do. It's to accept I was wrong about that. I shouldn't have said that. And I think leadership-wise, that's what we... That's what a leader does. And we're desperately in need of someone that's going to be accountable. Do you know what? I've got new information. So based on that, I changed my mind. this is now how I see the situation. Apologise. I, do you know what? I made it so clear, even with the United Kingdom movement. Because we want to get behind Nigel Farage, really, don't we? If we believed in him, if he didn't give us reason to doubt him.

29:26He gives too many reasons to doubt him, I think. I know. Maybe, listen, you see, if Nigel was to tell the truth and speak about Islam, his life would change forever. And I think he knows that. And maybe he's not up for it. Maybe he doesn't want to live in fear. Maybe he doesn't want his children to live scared of terrorist attacks against him. There's no terror plot to kill Nigel Farage, and there's not going to be, because Nigel was never confronted or spoke about Islam. Any other political leaders, if you look across Europe, they live under constant watch and threats of terror. Because, say, Gert Wilders, for example, forever they're going to want to kill him.

29:56He's got fatwires from Islamic nations because he's tried to stop the Islamisation of his country. Maybe Nigel just thinks, I don't really want to live under that. Fully understandable as well. Because who does? But then, if that is the reality, Nigel might agree with us. I don't know if he does when he's given his chairman's seat to a Muslim, I don't see. And I've watched the Yusuf recently. He's very good. He's very good. He's very, very good. Yeah, he is slick. Very good speaker. And he sort of ties his opposition up in knots, doesn't he? He's very good. Yeah, I've watched him. Do you know my whole thing, which I'm going to follow up on a documentary piece, is why I struggle, is because of what happened with Af Salamim.

30:35Now, Af Salamim was a Muslim politician for the Conservative Party who approached me, offered me money, sat me down with his funders were Labour supporting, drug dealing gangsters. I covertly recorded everything. You can read about this in the Daily Mail. It was a six page spread. He'd been offered a position in the cabinet for the Tory party. I exposed him. I never got a thank you. When I exposed him as a fraud, as corrupt, he offered me money. He offered me a never have to worry about money again, Tommy, in all the meetings with these Muslim gangsters. He just wanted me to work with him to put him into a position of power.

31:15So he wanted me to set up an English Defence League demonstration in his constituency. And he was a captain for 10 years in the British Army. He went to Sandhurst. He taught Prince William and Prince Harry. Yeah? This man did. He spoke the Queen's English better than the Queen. So, I don't get a thank you for this. I never knew that. The BBC sanctioned a journalist to follow me. And he followed me for 18 months to two years. Mike. Yeah? Now, he went back to them with what he found. And basically what he found is the truth. And they said, no, we're not ever going to betray Tommy Robinson any sort of positive light.

31:50You're going to have to change this. At which point he said, well, I'm not changing it because that's what I found. That's the truth of what I found. At which point they paid him money, which, because they paid him money, he was locked in for four years or something that he couldn't use the footage. So we have two years worth of footage, which tells all the behind the scenes. He had a camera with me. So when we'd done this, for example, what happened was this Muslim approached me with these gang members who are Labour supporting. Because when they sit down, I sat down, he's a Tory. I said, lads, you don't strike me as conservatives, boys.

32:22And I'm recording everything. They said, we're not conservatives, we're Labour. I said, so why are you funding all of this? Because they're offering all that money. Money will never be a worry for you, Tommy. They had about 100 businesses, these two. They said, we just want our man on the inside. We just want our man. And Afzal Amin, when we went through it, so he's offered me all this shit. I've then said, I need to see you again. Let me go away and think about this. Let's have another meeting. And I went for another meeting where I've got someone to sit over there to get pictures of us together.

32:49And then I walked into the Daily Mail. Now, I've got a non-disclosure agreement. Go fuck your non-disclosure agreement, Daily Mail, yeah? Because I'm going to put this all out anyway. But I've got a non-disclosure agreement. Because the Daily Mail, when you read the article, they hammer me. You wouldn't think it was me that gave them this story. So I walk in a week before the election and say, we've got a big problem here. The future cabinet minister of our country is working with drug dealing, Muslim fucking Labour supporting gangsters. A, yeah. He's offering money. It's Pakistani politics, yeah.

33:17He's offering money to me to do stuff for him. And he's offering me a friendship in the parliament. He's offering me all these things, yeah. And David, and his goal is to be prime minister of this country because he told me that. He point blank told me. He goes, Tommy, I'm not doing this to be a cabinet minister. Yeah, I'm going to the top. Now, what he'd done is he'd secured money from Qatar already. So when he gets in, in his area, in his constituency, he's going to solve homelessness, solve joblessness. He's going to pump, Qatar are going to pump millions, if not hundreds of millions into his constituency, and they're going to make his record look unbelievable.

33:50So he comes to me, offers me all these deals. I walk into the Daily Mail, say, boom, listen to that. Listen to that, bang to fucking rights. And they're like, fuck. And he taught Prince Harry and Prince William. But the question here is what people need to be asking, which I asked straight away, because in the conversation he's got two kids at Eton. This Afzal Min has two kids at Eton. So I'm like, you're a captain in the British Army. You can't afford two kids at Eton. So who's paying for your kids' education, yeah? That's why I started questioning him early on. I started thinking, you went to Sanders.

34:24Who are you working for? Because you're not working for us. You're not working for the British public. We know who he's working for. It's Qatar. He was a plant for Qatar. Now, when I exposed him, and the behind-the-scenes footage is going to be great because he rings me. I'm sat in the Daily Mail. I had to stay there two days. I weren't allowed to leave. I'd stayed there two days in an office, sat in a room for two days whilst they were following up the legitimacy of what I gave them. And they were like, this is the biggest breaking story before the election there's going to be in. It was six-page, massive spread, headline news everywhere.

34:56None of them ever. I never got to thank you for exposing this fraud. But then he rings me. I've sat in the office and we're filming. I said, all right, Sal, how are you doing? He said, Tommy. I said, yeah. He goes, I've just had a phone call from the Daily Mail or Sunday Mail. I said, oh, yeah. He goes, what's going on? I said, some things ain't for Sal, you rat. And I start laughing. I said, game over, bruv. You're gone. I'm laughing. You're finished, mate. You're finished. You rat. So I struggle. when I look at Baroness Varsi, what she did in the Tory party, when I look at Sadiq Khan, he says, Sadiq Khan, in 2014, I was in jail.

35:35I walked out of my cell, Sadiq Khan's standing there, outside my cell. And I said, he was the prison minister. So at that time for Labour, he was in charge of prison. So he was touring the prison. He said, Tommy, and I'd just left the English Fence League. And he said, you left with Majid Noiris? I said, yeah. He goes, I was best mates with Majid for a university. Bing, bing, bing, bing. Well, I know Majid was a terrorist. his supporter at university because I know Majid's background. I know his life. So Majid used to be a member of His But To Hear, the whole way for university. So you was his best mate.

36:05So you were involved with His But To Hear as far as I'm concerned. Sadiq Khan. And I think Sadiq Khan, if I'm right, I think even his father, his father not as part of the Muslim Brotherhood, maybe, I think. I recently read that and I wanted to ask you about that. We just had a meeting with someone high ranking from Qatar this week who made that same allegation which I'd already heard. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. But the point is, from what he told me, he was best friends with a terrorist supporter at university, the whole way through university. Well, that's an alarm bell, because you're now the mayor of London.

36:35So every Muslim that's rose to power, look at the scumbag in Scotland, the leader of Scotland. What's that clown's name? Humza Yousef. The Humza Yousef, I think his wife's mum's part of a terrorist organisation. His family, all around them, are criminals and terrorist supporters. His family. Yeah. So there's alarm bells around everyone. And then they just, they appear from nowhere. Yeah. So maybe I'm very wrong about, about Zia Yusuf. Yeah. But from my experience, so when I exposed this and this went out in the papers, do you know what they then found? They found that Afzal Amin, three years prior to become, going to Sandhurst, was making leaflets about the Mujahideen taking over the Britain, the Islamic jihadists taking over Britain.

37:20He was an Islamic jihadist supporter. Yeah. So he went undercover. This is when I say they don't mind five years, ten years. He worked in the British military for ten years as a captain, all undercover, all with a long-end goal of getting to somewhere in politics, not for our interests, but for guitars. He probably would have been a future prime minister of our country. And I didn't get one thank you. I just got condemned as a far-right thug. And race plot, plans race plot. No, I saved our country from this scumbag. but I've got all the behind the scenes of when we went to meet them and I was worried because I met them in Birmingham and we're sitting around the table and when we're sitting around the table they're talking about their mate who just got shot dead they're all gangsters the Pakistani boys I mean this is an outrageous story this is a film yeah really it's a Muslim takeover of Great Britain I knew none of this oh mate you've got to see it so read the newspaper article but we've got all the behind the scenes footage like it's quite funny because I'm overweight at the time and I'm taping all these little listening devices because we didn't have buttons we were just shit We're really shit.

38:20I'm taping them all. And do you know what? Gutted, because we get all the audio from the first one. We don't get great visuals. So we do another one. I'm like, I can't do it again. And in the meeting, they're like, Tommy, none of us are stupid. And you hear me start chuckling. Because I think you fuckers are. You're sitting down with me thinking I'm going to help you. Like, I've got you all banged to rights here, lads. Already. We're in a curry house in Birmingham. But as I said, so this was an alarm bell for me, yeah? Well, Zia Yusuf has come from nowhere. Who the hell is he? Where's he come from?

38:49Yeah. Then the company he had, which he sold, I believe, wasn't doing that great and received big money. Perfect way of laundering money into a company if you want to start paying people. I don't know. Again, maybe I'm totally wrong on this. Maybe I'm super paranoid. I am paranoid. Yeah. When I see Muslims rise to power within our country, all of them previously have been frauds. There hasn't been one success story. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

39:26And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro Plans. And we're back. streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The certified fresh series returns. Your boss. You always like this or is this just an act? Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! Has it happened? There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone.

40:05Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. Not one. You mentioned Qatar, and I'm reading more and more now, or certainly hearing more and more about the Muslim Brotherhood. Now, for your everyday man, you would have heard of ISIS, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, like the big hit in terrorist names. But the Muslim Brotherhood, I'd never really heard of that until recently. So what does the ordinary person need to know about the Muslim Brotherhood? That the Muslim Brotherhood are behind all those groups that you just named.

40:38Why am I only hearing about them now, though? Why not 10 years ago? They're a very clever organisation. They've been going for 100 years. They are very well funded from Qatar. It's all from Qatar. And Qatar then acts as the peace broker. So Qatar then, if there is no terrorism, if there is no jihadist groups, if there is no al-Qaeda, if there is no ISIS, if there is no Hamas, Qatar don't really have a role. But Qatar's role has come as the peacemaker. We can do deals with Hamas and Israel. We can get you back to hostages. They have a real influential role. Yeah, of course they do. They're the ones who are funding all.

41:09They're the ones who are behind all. They're the ones who are supporting all. They're the ones who give home and give refuge to all of these jihadists and all of these terrorists. They have the same ideology as them. They support them. And they have trillions of dollars to fund it. Now, Qatar has spent... I've had an issue with Qatar for years because I looked... Do you remember I've done the... I got invited onto Al Jazeera. Now, Al Jazeera are a very professional propaganda unit for Qatar. One of the best news networks in the world. You have to realise that 90 % of what they do is legitimate and the other 10 % isn't.

41:43But then they're seen as legitimate. Would you compare that to Britain's BBC? Oh, they are far worse, man. Really? They are a terror unit cell, in my eyes, Al Jazeera, to push the propaganda. The only TV network that had access to Bin Laden the whole time during the conflict over there that he could sit down with and that would get his videos was Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera have been pushing the agenda and the voice of Islamist ideology since they were formed. but they mix it with some very fair, real good news. So they're good. They're dangerous and they're good. And so Russia Today's band, isn't they?

42:22Because they're seen as a propaganda wing for Russia. RT's band in the UK. But it's Al Jazeera band and I think it is. But Al Jazeera, it is Qatar. It's a voice piece for Qatar. It's a very professionally done news network. And I was invited into Al Jazeera. It was where the bloke tried to sting me and he tried to read verses from the old Bible and pretend it was the Koran. Do you remember that? Yes. So it was him. But as I went in there, there'd just been terrorist attacks in France. Now, as I started going down the rabbit hole on France to see what was going on in France, I found that all the money was coming from Qatar.

42:54All the money that was funding the division, funding the extremist ideologies, funding all of it, the breakdown in France, it was all coming from Qatar. They were funding it all. So that every problem that's coming out of France really has come from Qatar. when I started looking at all. So I go into this unit, I go into this office, and they've got so much security. I had to go through a airport-style security to get in, yeah? Taking everything off, shoes, belts, going through all the machines. So when I got up there to be interviewed, in my head I'm thinking, you cheeky wankers, yeah? You've got all this to protect yourselves, but you are funding the destruction and the terrorism that we're all having on our streets.

43:41And I had that confrontation with him. I said, you're funding it all. Because the more I looked into Qatar, and anyone needs to go down this rabbit hole on Qatar, Qatar should not have any buildings in our capital city. They own more than Prince Charles. They own everything. They own Barclays. They own ports in our countries. They own Harrods. They own everything. I'm going to put together a little documentary on Qatar because I think the public needs to be aware of who they are. I always used to be against Saudi Arabia, pretty vocally. But I think the new prince of Saudi Arabia is, when I look at, you have to look at actions and look at where they're going and what they're trying to do.

44:15I don't like Saudi Arabia. I don't like Wahhabism or Salafism, but I think he's trying to push reform. The same accusation can't be said as strongly as it can against Qatar. So what does the average person need to know, first of all, about the Muslim Brotherhood? Then they can go down their own road. The Muslim Brotherhood have a plan. Their plan was leaked, I think, in 96. The Muslim Brotherhood plan for America. Now, what it is, it's about getting into politics. It's about setting up NGOs. It's about setting up all these organisations. And all of these little groups, they might have 100 of them, they're all working for the same goal.

44:46They're all working individually with mass funding, billions coming into them, yeah, from Qatar. They're all having all this money coming, but their job is to enforce Sharia and change and Islamise the United States of America, France, Britain, Europe. We're all asleep. Is this what we would call political jihad? It is political jihad, yeah. It's political jihad and it's Qatar funding it and it's an end goal and they've all got the same end goal. So you have to understand that our politicians for so long were intent on stopping ISIS, Al-Qaeda. Listen, they're going to blow shit up, yeah? But all these other 100, 200, 300 active organisations, active charities, because most of them have got charities commissioned, actively working in Great Britain, they have the same end goal.

45:28So it doesn't matter. I put a thing out yesterday. I don't care if they're not violent. They want to change this country, to take over this country. It's the same goal. And Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood are behind it all. Now, the Muslim Brotherhood are banned in many, many Arab states. They're banned. They're outlawed. But not here. Not here. In fact, here is their base. There's actually, I'll show you in my film, they've actually got their Muslim Brotherhood flags flying in London. They've got their headquarters and their offices. They've got offices. These are a terrorist organisation. They've got offices and they've got a base in our capital city, which they've been allowed to have for decades and decades, where they can sit, work and plan, strategise how they're going to take over Great Britain.

46:08And watch. Yeah, and see the success. And then see Sadiq Khan come up and I'll ask what influence they have over many of these politicians because they're now, I looked up something that was coming out of Texas now with the Muslim Brotherhood, where they're planning on how they can fund the politicians in America as well. So legally fund them. So setting up all these different groups so they can do it in our nations. But the Muslim Brotherhood, a massive problem. They're a massive, massive worldwide problem for the world, for peace in the world, but they do it very cleverly. They'd have a cell.

46:39They'd have a cell here and a cell in that town, and neither of them would know anything about each other. So they can't talk about each other. They don't even know they're both working for the Muslim Brotherhood, but they're both pushing the mission of the Muslim Brotherhood. So does it come of no surprise that a lot of people have not heard of them until recently? Yeah, but the public are getting on with their life, aren't they? We're busy. You're consumed in your own life. I wish I had known them. And what's the caste system within Islam? Because I'm also seeing different Muslims against each other recently.

47:11Oh, you're seeing that the United Arab Emirates, and you're seeing that the Saudis and these countries, they have a very downward look upon the Pakistanis. There's a caste system. India's got the same going on. But they've got a caste system where I interviewed, he was an imam, wasn't he? what's his name from Iran and he said we wouldn't even let Sadiq Khan be a cleaner in our country he's a Pakistani and he just basically said that he's a Pakistani how's he your mayor and he started laughing he wouldn't be a cleaner that's a cleaner they're cleaners oh I see they have this downward view okay so Arabs look down on Pakistanis oh totally man despite both being Muslim no totally yeah so the Muslim Umar the Brotherhood but then there's a car system as well there's a play are they totally the Arabs and to be honest most people say would we have the problems we have with the Arabs like with the the men from Dubai are they going to act like this they're not I mean it is one complex religion just when you think you've got it sussed out something else gets thrown in the mix you think fucking hell it's like constant sucker punching you or viewing you in a different direction funding you mentioned funding are you funded by the Jews I'm not funded by the Jews why do people keep saying that I mean I know you're not funded by the Jews Well, they say it because...

48:31I'm now being accused of being funded by the Jews because I went to Israel. It's like, fucking hell, if you can get that wrong, what else have you got wrong? No one's paying me nothing. Well, I had this with a woman because Sir Bob Shillman was a gentleman who I'd never met at that time and he funded Rebel Media. He gave donations to Rebel Media. In 2015, I worked for Rebel Media for one year. So because of that, people say I'm Zionist funded and I was funded by the Jews because I worked for Rebel Media. And they continually tapped me with that. But for the record, I don't give a shit because my stance has never changed.

49:05Some people's chances have changed. Since the start of my activism in 2009, I was pro-Israeli because I understand that Israel is the only democracy surrounded by totalitarian Sharia-driven shitholes. You have to look at the population of Israel and the size of Israel and understand what surrounds it. 100 million, 60 million, 80 million, all these Muslim nations who wish to obliterate you. So I've been to Israel. I've been twice now. I think it's a beautiful country. It doesn't mean there's not problems. Do you know, when you're against a country, say for example, when Joe Biden was in control of America, I hated him and his government and the decisions they were making.

49:42Didn't mean I hated every American and it didn't mean every American supported what Joe Biden was doing and his government would do him. But with Israel, that same thing, it's just, it's the Jews. People say, it's the Jews. And what I realised when I went there recently and what I've grown to realise is, Now, there's many Jews. There's a big divide in the Jewish community. There are many liberal Jews who are supporting a lot of the actions which are causing the destruction of many of our host nations, but there's many Jews who are opposed to it. And I can only explain it. Like, I've done it when I looked at Hollywood, because everyone said the Jews control Hollywood and they're the problem, basically.

50:19So I looked at Hollywood, and I looked at the funding that comes out of Hollywood. 98 % of the funding goes to Democrat causes and all these woke causes. Well, only 50 % of Hollywood's Jews, which means 48 % of the non-Jew are funding exactly the same causes. So are they doing it because they're Jews or are they doing it because of their ideology, because of their politics? Well, the other 48 % are doing it as well. The lefties within Hollywood, they're funding all the same woke, LGBTQ plus Marxist bullshit. They're doing exactly the same. So no one's saying that's because of their religion. They're just saying it's because of their ideology.

50:57But the accusation against me, yeah, I don't hate Israel. In fact, it would be easy to hate Israel. It would be easy to remain silent on this issue as well. But it would have been easy to remain silent on the whole Islam issue, on the whole grooming issue. I believe with a test of time, I'll be proven right. In fact, I already see that. The people who are vocally in America, there's many on the right now who are attacking Israel and they're saying that Muslims and Christians need to stand together because the Jews are trying to cause this divide. So everything they say I'm saying, I'm paid to say to cause a divide.

51:31There's 40 ,000 British Muslims on the terror watch list. I didn't put them on the watch list. It's nothing to do with me. We've probably had 20-odd jihad attacks in our country. Yeah, they weren't me either. We've had 90 % of the convictions for rape in our country of groups of men are Muslim men. I didn't do that, guys. But somehow they say that because I talk about it, I'm paid to cause a divide. No, the fucking divide is there because Muslims are raping, pillaging and murdering their way through our country. And they're doing it across the whole West. They're doing it every country. They're causing mayhem.

52:00But you've got lots of Americans now who have not experienced this. They're gonna. They're gonna. So any of the videos they're making, they're not going to age well for them. The set outs, like I saw Tucker Colson now. He's in Qatar at the minute, I think. But I see all these people. Well, we're friends. We're friends. No, you're not. You don't get it. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're in the United States of America. You haven't been plagued by Islamic rape gangs. Your towns have not been taken over. Some of them now have. You're going to experience everything we're talking about.

52:24You're seeing Muslims come out on the street speaking very vocally, but you're going to witness it and everyone's going to witness it. And all those videos of you saying, Nick Fluenters, Muslims and Christians need to stand together. Yeah, you go tell that to the Christians. I said this, go tell that to Christians in Pakistan, bro. Go and speak to the Christians in Afghanistan. See how they are. Go speak to the Christians in Nigeria. Go speak to the Christians anywhere where they're a minority to Muslims and tell them that they're friends with the Muslims. And then they'll tell you straight, no, they hate us.

52:49They're killing us. They're raping us. And this has been going on for 1 ,400 years. So people say it's all Israel. I think the State of Israel was formed in 1948. Jihad's been going on for 1 ,400 years. Muslims have been trying to take over Europe for 1 ,400 years. They've been waging jihad, holy war, rape and murder way before Israel. So, yeah, I don't know. But then you have to question, again, Qatar have their hands in it. The thing is, for me, the more I learn, the more I realise how little I knew. So I'm not wiping... For me personally, I don't wipe anything off the table. I wouldn't die on my sword and say, Israel weren't responsible for October the 7th.

53:31I mean, after looking into it and being over there asking questions, it sort of kind of doesn't make sense because they didn't finish the job off. I mean, they've done quite the job. You know what doesn't make sense? Here's the thing for all the ethno-nationalists that are saying Israel's behind everything. They say that Israel wants to break down our society. This is what they say. Israel is responsible for flooding our countries with all these migrants to destroy the white race. This is their accusation. And to create them into Muslim states. Let's say that was true for a second. Why would Israel want the most powerful countries in Europe to be Muslim?

54:04Because Israel certainly, they might be winning the war at the minute, but if Britain becomes a Muslim nation, Germany becomes a Muslim nation, the whole of Europe becomes a Muslim. Israel ain't going to win the war anymore. because all those countries are going to wage war on Israel. So it just doesn't make sense. Lots of it doesn't make sense. And that's the problem. And prove me, well, prove me right or prove me wrong. Anyone I've ever spoke to, now you know me well enough, whatever I do, right or wrong, I'll fucking own it. So anyone that's ever said to me, is Tommy paid by the Jews? Did Israel fund Tommy?

54:36I said, I said, no. I said, but what I can guarantee is I've known him long enough to know that if he was funded by the Jews, he would tell you. Yeah, give me your money, lads. I mean, you would, wouldn't you? The mad thing is, I'm currently nearly£300 ,000 in debt. So there's this massive hysteria online. And I read the comments. You don't have any idea how much money he's now making. I'm about to go bankrupt again, you dickheads. Because I've been hit with court fees and fucking all sorts of charges for the previous stuff. I was previously made bankrupt in 2021. In that bankruptcy, Hope Not Hate took over the investigation.

55:10They spent£200 ,000. In that bankruptcy, they investigated every single penny that come to me. Every penny. There was nothing about the Jews, guys. Okay? Nothing. At all. I've had the big investigation. They've gone back from a whole life. Yeah? Now we're back to 2025 and, or 26, virgin on. So, and I face the same again. I face the same again. I haven't got£300 ,000 to pay any of these fees. How can I pay them? So this episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

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56:369th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. What about when you was in Israel, you interviewed an imam and I mean, it looked like a very successful interview. You stopped him in the street. He engaged. He also took us. He took the selfie of you and him together. So that looked like a very amicable conversation. And he said that he admires some of the things you do and some of the things he doesn't agree with you on. So it's like, surely that's what it's all about, having some kind of dialogue. What kind of backlash did he receive just for talking to you and being civil? He lost everything, didn't he?

57:10And I feel bad for him. He got kicked out of the mosque. He faced attacks. Like, yeah. I knew, though, if I'm honest, the minute he started talking to me and some of the things he said, I thought, you're in trouble. You're in trouble, mate. Do you remember what it was he said that made you think? Yeah, he said the Jews have a right to be in Israel. No, we can't say that. Because that's going to go against everything that all the Muslim groups want. So you can't say that. He said he admired lots of things I've done. You can't say that. You might think it, and I have many Muslims say it to me. I agree with you on so much, Tommy.

57:43But publicly saying it, when you're an Imam, it was brave of him. But, and you know what, he was Indian. So there's Indian Muslims, where Diabandis, no, they're very conservative, but less of a problem, the Pakistanis. So, but yeah, he's lost everything, I think. And it was a very nice chat. And lots of the comments supported from our supporters or from the general British public agreed with him and thought he was a nice man, non-Muslims. Yes, there's so much for Christians and Muslims coming together because if they try and lean this way, they get backlash from their own. These people who are making these comments, they have no idea.

58:24That's why I think you've got no idea what it's like in Luton, in Bradford, in Birmingham, in London, there's non-Muslims. You've got no idea. So you're talking from a place of privilege and comfort, sitting in your little non-Muslim area, telling us we all need to be friends with the Muslims whilst we're getting raped and pillaged and our kids are being terrorised by them. So you don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea what you're talking about. And the only reason why you're saying this is because you hate the Jews. That's basically it. And what do you think about the rise of ethno-nationalists, certainly on the internet?

58:49Because I've had one set opposite me. We didn't agree on everything. There were certain things I thought, OK, you've got a good case there. But I think our culture is superior. But race is, I'm blind to race. I'm blind to race, but they're right in lots of what they say. And that cannot be denied. So that has to be vocalised in the sense that white English cannot become a minority in England. It should not be allowed to happen. It's not right if it happens. So we can be blind to race, but that shouldn't happen. Why shouldn't it happen? Because black Nigerians should not become a minority in Nigeria.

59:27The Japanese should not become a minority in Japan. The Chinese should not become a minor in China. So for us to say that, if that's allowed to happen, like it has in London, what does London look like now? It's 33 % English. It doesn't look like London. It doesn't represent London. The culture's changed. Has it changed for positive or negative? Negative. Has violence gone up? Yes, it has. It's broke down community. It's broke down society. It's replaced it with ghetto culture. It's wrong. So that's not racist. So I shared a video recently. It was a video of a school. and in the school there wasn't a single white child and there was a promo video and I got a lot of backlash for it.

1:00:05And again, I don't really care, if I'm honest. I'm right in what I'm saying. I said, you have to pick what future you want for your children. Now, the reason I'm saying this is, I've grown up where whites become a minority. I've grown up in that situation where Muslim becomes the majority. And I've grown up experiencing the problems that come with that. Okay. Now, what are the minorities like, rights like in Saudi Arabia? Well, there aren't any. What about in Qatar? Well, there aren't any. What about in Pakistan? Well, there aren't any. in any of these Islamic countries, no minority rights. But then they had all the minority rights in our country.

1:00:40But when we become a minority, do you expect them to recognise our rights? They don't. I've seen it in Luton. When a white English child is being bullied by all the Muslims at school and he ends up reacting, he gets expelled. They just get rid of him. The same way with the grooming issue, they didn't know how to deal with it, so they just left it. They don't know how to deal with the hostility and the extremism against non-Muslims in schools. So they don't know how to deal with it. So they get rid of the victim. The victim becomes a victim multiple times. They do the same there. Same in the prison system.

1:01:09They haven't known how to deal with it. So they've got rid of any resistance of men that tried to stand up against the Islamic takeover. I'm going to do a follow-up piece on this. But they got rid of these men. They're all rotting in the basements of jails. They've been sacrificed to let the Islamic takeover of the jail happen because they didn't know how to deal with it. They don't know how to. They're so scared of tackling anything around Islam. Because you come under attack from the FNATs. I come under attack by the FNATs, but I've done an interview the other day. I went to a Luton game the other day, yeah?

1:01:35And I remind myself of this. So I went to a Luton game, and I'm sat at a Luton game with three very close friends, yeah, who I have a lot of love for. Sully, Isaac, and Kev. None of them are white. And it just reminded me again, as a total fuck you to the FNATs, yeah? Because the FNATs aren't saying, you can say that we don't want the country to become minority white, but that's not what they're saying, yeah? Or the vocal voice of them. They're saying that those mates that I've got, who are English lads as far as I'm concerned they're born in England they love our country they're part of our football group but you know when I was in trouble during the times of the English Fence League when I had beef and that I weren't ringing all white lads yeah I was ringing my mates now I've had a very different experience because many of my mates aren't white many of the people I love aren't white and I see don't see them as a problem and then in fact not just don't see them as a problem they're an asset many of them they're great lads successful as well many of them and when Black Lives Matter hit off in our school group chat we had a lot, still do have a lot of debate on it because in our school group chat, it's a very diverse group.

1:02:37And one of the lads who I used to be very close with, Garnet and Boy, went right on the, right on the, he's a victim of institutional racism. I'm like, bruv, you live in a£600 ,000 house. You were captain of the football team. You're the most popular boy at school. Fucking every one of your clients, because you're a personal trainer, are white. Everything. But here you are moaning and crying and he said, you don't see the way people look at me when I get on the train. I said, you don't see the way fucking people look at me when I get on the train. But the point is, and he said, yeah, but, and I said, no, you're not addressing any of the issues because say in London, for example, I think 10 % is black.

1:03:14I think 9 % of robberies are done by black men. Well, you have to address the issue because if someone's looking at you strangely or concerned because there's a black person there, it's because of some of the statistics that are coming out of some of the crimes. It's just, but I don't believe they're race-related. I believe it's to do with fatherless homes lots of it I believe it's too of ghetto culture has been created gangs have been created and I've seen that in Luton say in Luton the whites and black boys are all out of it growing up it weren't black gangs it was white and black gangs all the kids were out of it yeah the violence the insane level of violence in Luton it wasn't sectioned to one community now the biggest knife statistics and crimes originally was coming out of Glasgow yeah and it wasn't so that wasn't to do with race again all wasn't recognised to do with race.

1:04:01So I think a lot of the problems, and I had this when I went to Brixton when Black Lives Matter hit off, but in our school group chat, we had all these different arguments. And I said to the lads in the group chat, okay, let's have a look at all of us in here. To the black lads. Every one of you who had a dad has done well. Just, that's it. And my mate, my mate Chez, you know Chez? He's in his group chat. We were having, he's in his school group chat because most of his mates are black. And they're all about white privilege. He's like, what privilege? your mum and your mums and dads had to feed me i had nothing i had to go rob my shit if i wanted trains i had to go rob it as a 15 year old i had to do this i had to do that i i was the most underprivileged kid there was at school you're talking about i've got privilege you had privilege what the fuck are you talking about so this this identity politics which was important from the united states i think was here to cause a divide but so many people and can now use their failure in life to blame institutional racism or something like that.

1:04:58But as I said, that lad who went on about it, it's just like, are you for real? We've all grown, and all the lads in the group chat said, and I said, lads, I'm talking to you on behalf of everyone in this group chat. The other lads may not be saying it, but let's just have it. We all grew up together. There was no racial problems. Stop trying to bullshit us. Stop trying to play this bullshit because I know it. And the fact of it come down to anyone who had a dad didn't go to jail. And out of the black lads, anyone who didn't have a dad did go to jail. what's a simple way for people to grasp the difference between race and culture?

1:05:29So how does one that's sitting there thinking, well, I don't like multiculturalism and I don't like racism, but they're kind of thrown in the same bowl. So how do you denounce racism and multiculturalism at the same time? Something simple for people to grasp, because a lot of people I think are still remaining silent on the whole cultural issues that we have, because I don't like anyone else's culture to rise above ours, but also I don't like racism. Yeah. I think that our culture is superior. It's not racist to say that. That's why everyone's coming here. There's 55 Islamic nations. They're not heading there, are they?

1:06:08No. So why are they coming here? Because it's a Christian culture. I believe that the culture that we built in Great Britain and across the West is far superior than any other culture. And again, that's not extremist or racist. We can still respect other cultures, and we can respect them and tolerate them. I think that my thing, and I've made this comment many times with multiculturalism, I don't believe, Liam, any of us would be having any debate at all about immigration if we didn't have Islamic immigration. So if we took Islam out of Britain, I don't think anyone would be going that mad about the problems.

1:06:46I believe that they need addressing at the demographical change now, which majority is to do with Islam and the birth rate of Muslims. But at the same time, do we want to replace, do we want to import 10 million Indians? No. But I've made this conversation where what I've said is, if, for example, Angela Merkel justified the reason why she opened the border to a million young Syrian Muslim men was because of their age in population and their low birth rate. So they need men to come in to fill the menial jobs, but they don't do it. And there's 48 % on benefits, but they don't really do it. And any businesses, they do a cash in hand anyway.

1:07:26But that's what Angela Merkel used as justification. Now, if that was the case, if Great Britain needed immigration, if we needed to open the borders to bring people in for work, we'd bring the Filipinos in. They work hard. They don't rape. They don't really create gangs. they don't really blow things up. But there's plenty of cultures and plenty of other sections, whether it be Hindus, Sikhs, Jews. You can look at all these others who have come here and pretty much worked hard. The most successful workers in the United States and in Britain, Indians and Chinese. So if there was institutional racism, that's what I said to my black mate.

1:08:00If there was institutional racism, how come they're excelling better than everyone? How come the Indians come here and they're not facing all this problem? I'll tell you how, because their mums and dads are together, pretty much. The family unit is held strong. the community is still strong. Tell me about your Tony Bellew beef. I saw that going off on X and he said that when he sees you, he's going to punch your head in. I'll punch his fucking head in. If I was your height, Tony, and your size, I have no doubt at all I'd annihilate you based on that. Right? Based on my heart, mate. But I never had a problem with you, Tony.

1:08:36In fact, I always liked you. You as the underdog who I always wanted to win, I cheered for you. I celebrated when you won. I celebrated because I knew you got the money. So, you know, was it David Haye was fighting? He was the underdog. David Haye's foot went. I was like, come on, do him. And I wanted him to do him because I knew he was just a Liverpool lad. Just a lad from Liverpool. And he didn't have the same opportunities, yeah, as in financially. And this would make him. So I remember jumping up and down cheering him. And then I remember watching him give an interview, I think in Saudi Arabia, talking shit about me.

1:09:07Again, saying that I was the problem. I've gone over this, but saying I was the problem. Not the jihadists, not the terrorists. None of that is saying it's got nothing to do with Islam. How do you know that, Tony? So Boko Haram, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, all these worldwide terrorist organisations who they're all just getting it wrong, are they? They all interpret it exactly the same way. There's Islamic caliphate organisations across the globe in every country. I'm the problem. That's what he said. Tommy Robinson's the problem. So I watched that and just thought, you shithouse, you absolute fucking shithouse.

1:09:40because I never had him as a shithouse. I had him as just a normal lad. But he's a shithouse. And the reason he's doing it is because he's got Saudi Arabia on the end of the year and he thinks he's in prison. Probably getting a big paycheck. So, yeah, fucked only value. It was an unnecessary comment for him to say as well. It was totally... It's not like he was teed up to denounce you. He'd just come out of it. I thought, I just couldn't understand it. He got a contract off Saudi Arabia, I think, didn't he? I don't... I think so, in the boxing world. Saudi's taking over everything. And at the same time, because he said he's got a load of Muslim mates.

1:10:08Yeah, so what? Well, so have you. So have I. So what? That doesn't mean that there's not a problem. And on the subjects of terrorists and terrorism, you was a suspected terrorist for a while. Yeah. What the fuck happened there? And how does it feel no longer being a terrorist suspect or a suspected terrorist, should I say? Well, I won the case, which was a great feeling, but I'll come out of there angry, not happy. Because I come out of there again, just like that recent one with that assault charge. Why was I arrested? Why, when I landed back at Loon Airport, wasn't it? When you've got the footage, you know I'm the victim, but you've still allowed this mass campaign by the media to portray me as a violent criminal, when the truth is I was acted in self-defence after a violent attack by a violent criminal, because he was the one attacking me.

1:10:58So you all knew that, but you let it happen. Now, with the terrorism case, again, I don't think I'd have got a foul not guilty without Elon Musk stepping in and supporting me. financially supporting the legal defence against it. Are we allowed to talk about, because I was in the viewing gallery, are we allowed to talk about the trial now it's been and gone? Yeah, we are, yeah. It was mental, wasn't it? I couldn't believe what I was seeing. So, the police were just... The police officer that gave a statement that was the one that arrested you, I think, or told you to go and park up as you were coming through the tunnel.

1:11:29Tell me to go and park up. What we find out is, when you look at what they're meant to do, they're meant to ask you all these questions, probably for an hour, yeah, and then if they don't get what they want, and they're meant to enforce this terrorism act. Well, when we play the video of me pulling in, 30 seconds. Yeah. I was detained under the terrorism legislation within 30 seconds. The viewing gallery couldn't believe what they were seeing. So as we're watching the trial roll out, there wasn't a moment where the viewing gallery wasn't looking around at each other going... The biggest thing that come out of that trial is the viewing gallery are all doing that.

1:11:57We find out that they acted unlawfully. In fact, the police officers admit, went on oath, that they acted unlawfully. They admit what they'd done was wrong. All these things are playing out. not one single thing was reported by mainstream media. So I'm watching all the media that night thinking, and even my KC said, I can't believe the media have not reported any of this. So there's 20 media sitting watching this case and not one of them have reported any of the facts that are coming out of how unlawful the police acted. So say, for example, we had a politicised judge. And again, I've got to show top respect to that judge.

1:12:28He didn't like me. It was very clear he didn't like me, but he stood on his principles of law. So it gave me a bit more faith in the judicial system than I've had because I've just been turned over by politicised judges every time. But if they would have had a politicised judge, then none of the public would have known anything because he'd have just ruled against me like they usually do and nothing was reported. The mainstream media didn't report anything. Like one of the coppers, he had to ask for a – he had to stop, didn't he? He said, can I just – I need a break. I need a break. Get me some water.

1:12:58because he got found out as lying and tied up as lying multiple times within a few minute period. And he was just like, and in the judge's judgment, he actually tears them to pieces. He was obviously there under duress, wasn't he? Or he arrested you under duress? So you have disclosure. So when you're arrested, you have disclosure. So we put in, when you get charged, our disclosure and our question was, who made the decision to detain me? When I was detained, what went on? There was like an hour period before I was questioned, what was going on during this hour when I was made to sit in my car?

1:13:32They didn't answer. They didn't give us any information. We then find out when he's interviewed that, well, we went to superior organisations, superior people, different departments, and we're sitting in an interview like, well, they haven't told us any of this. So at that point, we had an application. We could have an application to kick the whole trial out, but it might have started again. But they haven't told us, so we wanted to know, well, yeah, who made the decision? Who did you go to? But what they say is, we went to other counter-terrorism organisations and other information, and nothing come back against me.

1:13:57So they went to search, is there a problem? It all come back, there isn't a problem. Then they said... This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro Plans.

1:14:56You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. I was acting suspiciously by going to Benidorm. And then one thing they could quite easily do is just check my passport. For how many times I go to Benidorm. It would have been probably once a month, once in three weeks at the time. I was living that. More. I was out there. I was living near Benidorm at the time. But they didn't do that, which could have clarified there was no suspicion. And the media made the whole thing about me driving this Bentley. which they know wasn't my car.

1:15:27I had the receipt and invoices for the car, the transport agreement for the car. I was getting paid to transport the car. Yeah. There's no suspicion. They made them, they then made the deal about me having money in the car. The money was, and this is quite funny because there was all these accusations that 48 ,000 pounds was raised at the demonstration on the 27th of July. 27th of July, we had a hundred thousand people. Well, you can see what was raised because it was in my car. It was 13 ,000 pounds. Yeah. It was in my car. Why was it in my car? because I don't have a bank account in the UK. I'm not allowed to bank account.

1:15:58Okay, so here's a question for you. The Sun reported that you raised north of£40 ,000 at one of your demos and in the name of Peter Lynch and Peter Lynch didn't get any money. I'll set the record totally straight. When Peter Lynch died, I contacted his family. I put an offer out to pay for the funeral. Myself. Profits from my book. Myself. That didn't happen. I'm then in jail when a story comes out in the sun. Now, I know because I've got all the recordings of who put that story in the sun. Just so you all know, I've watched so many people come and appear on the Patriot scene. And they appear as these Patriots.

1:16:40And I always look at them and think, I wonder how long he's going to last. And then they come and then they go. So many of them. Now, one character who's out there now acting like Billy Big Bollocks, saying, oh, whoa, yeah, you need to stand with me. he's done fuck all he's been to two demos I'm looking at him thinking you've done two demos he's making videos of lines roaring and interacting with his own face I'm thinking you've been to two demonstrations bruv when you have faced nothing and then there's condemning me I think you'd last two minutes in my shoes two fucking minutes two minutes now these characters come together at the time upset because their egos were upset because they wanted to forcefully they turned up at a demonstration when I was in jail, yeah, to forcefully speak.

1:17:26We are turned up, apparently, yeah? I'm talking. What? Like, you've had no... Now, the thing is, he might have actually been able to talk if he interacted with the team before that, yeah? Maybe, yeah? But at that demonstration, you have to understand what our objectives are as a movement. Our objectives are what you saw on September 13th, yeah? That's our objectives. Our next objectives are to go bigger and larger with world leaders speaking, yeah? You're not going to get that unless you vet what people, who's talking and what's talking, yeah? And that's what we were doing before the demonstration.

1:17:59So to have someone just turn up and say, I'm talking. And when they weren't allowed to talk, from what I understand is, they said, I'm going to get 200 men and come back here and steam the place, yeah? Didn't get 200 men because I haven't got 200 men, yeah? But again, all bullshit, maybe too much testosterone, yeah? Which is understandable at the same time. But this has gone on. But these same wankers then are condemning me. And I just sit and think, whenever I look at it, I think, you'd last literally five minutes in my shoes. You've faced no opposition. Your house has not been smashed up. Your family haven't faced backlash.

1:18:28You haven't spent any time in jail. You've done fuck all, but you're talking like you've been at war. I'm listening to the speeches thinking, what are you talking about, bruv? You've turned up at two demos and said a few words on a megaphone. So you know who was behind... I know who was behind the story that was sold. So they basically built up this story, which again was all lies, and they went to the Sun newspaper. Now, what sort of fucking rat are you? And I know this because I've got the recordings of their conversations together. I've never shared them because I don't need to share them. I usually try not to react to these.

1:18:56You've asked me a question, so I'm going to talk about it. And I've not asked you to name them either. I'm not going to name them. I'm not going to name them, but I don't really care. But go and do your thing, lads. And all of them end up, because they've been outed from our group, they all end up going to the ethno-nationalist thing because it's the only place they've got where they can still have a little fucking, where they can get their ego stroked, basically. That's it. Turn up telling everyone how much they've done. I think, what are you talking about? You ain't done nothing, bruv. I wouldn't mind if you've done something.

1:19:22You've done nothing. Go take your March through Tower Hamlets. Go actually do something. Okay, so the article I read in The Sun that you collected over 40 grand of donations. I was in jail this time, Buff. So imagine I'm in jail. I'm ringing home. And there's an article saying that I've robbed Peter Lynch. Like, that's outrageous. Outrageous. Outrageous. And to think that you could gather 40-odd thousand pounds in buckets of change. The thing is, this was when I was in jail. 8 ,000 pounds was what was raised at that demo. Right. 8 ,000. So where's that other five grand come from? because you was caught with 13.

1:19:52No, that's 27th of July. The one they're talking about was when I was in jail. So they're saying 44 ,000 and 48 ,000 was raised at the October event when I was in jail, which is just unthinkable, yeah? It's just ridiculous. Anyone who knew... And they said that people were walking around with credit card machines taking donations. Again, just all bullshit. Everything was a lie, but it was groups of people coming together, which since the minute they've been on the scene, they've just been causing disruption. So it's a disgruntled group of people that know somebody in The Sun that sold them a lie.

1:20:17Contacted The Sun, sold them a lie. Then they were trying to do documentaries and trying to feed information to documentary makers to criticise us, working with the groups who were opposed to us. You've got to be some sort of rat to go to the Sun newspaper with a news story about someone. Especially when it's not true. Built on lies, yeah, because your ego's upset. Because you didn't get to forcefully speak at a demonstration that you had fuck all to do with. So you know who all these people are and you're choosing just to ignore them still? I always ignore them. Obviously, I'm not ignoring them now.

1:20:44I'm sort of talking about it. And again, I'll say the same again. all these people who have a problem with me all of these people and for the record so Peter so the money the money the percentage of the money that was collected that you was going to donate to Peter Lynch how did it how come it didn't end up in Peter Lynch's family's pocket from what I understand they didn't want it and they didn't want any link and I understand it but again from what I understand I'm in jail and is the money still there if they want it I'm not at the demonstration yeah I wasn't at the demonstration so I didn't even know what's gone on at the demonstration at the time.

1:21:18They're saying that I've done it. I'm thinking, what are you talking about? And Peter Lynch's family had already made it more. Again, look, I don't want to drag all this up again for Peter Lynch's family, because I believe Sammy Woodhouse went to speak to them. And the mum and the wife said it was nothing to do with them. Like, the story was nothing to do with them. And it wasn't. It was through these shit-stirring little wankers who were trying to find something to fucking attack us on because they're upset, because they weren't talking at our demos. Yeah, it's insane to think that you would get a group of people sell a lie about you, knowing just how deep you go into your journalism work.

1:21:54I see these people as irrelevant. We just need to carry on doing what we're doing. And I say this all the time, and sometimes I bite on things, but we just need to do what we're doing. Let them do it. Just, we do what we're doing, we're going full steam ahead. And these wankers always turn up at our demos and unveil their own little banners. Just think, go do your own demo. Do your own stuff, lads. I'm not going to criticise you. I don't care what you do. Go do your own stuff. But you're coming out constantly. One of them I saw saying, we don't need music. We don't need this. We need to be all out.

1:22:23We need to make an audience about what we need to do. I think, yeah, we've done that 10 years ago with EDL, bruv. Where was you? Where was you? We went into Hamlets, went into Bradford, went into Birmingham. There was fucking chaos throughout the whole town of Luton for fucking five years. Where were you? Yeah? Where were you then? But we don't need to be doing that. That's not what we need to be doing. We need to be doing... And they said they don't need to do that. Then I saw they organised their own demo and they'd done exactly that. They had music speeches. I just thought, what are you talking about?

1:22:48Go get your army together, bruv. Could you talk like you're going to get your army together? Go get your army together. You've got no army. It's you, yeah? But even if you have got an army, yeah? I'll tell you what we've done. In 2009, it was the English Fantasy. We went, ourselves, started off with 30 of us. We went into Tower Hamlets. We went into Birmingham. We went into the most Islamic areas, yeah? As little groups of men, English men. And there was chaos. We got battered. We had fights. We had battles. as the English Defence League, we went everywhere. Yeah? You go do it, boys. Right? Because there's a whole load of wind coming out of here, but there's nothing happening.

1:23:23You just turn up at our events and stand up. Give it with a little megaphone. I think, fucking hell, lads. Like, I've never seen so much bullshit come from one fucking... I just think, go do say it yourself. Go do say it yourself. And even this, I'll say it again. All these wankers that have a go at me, yeah? I'm not hard to find. Again, I'm not hard to find. If you want to attack me, come and attack me. Come and attack me. And what's the plan for this year? What's the plan for this year? Stay alive. And if you do stay alive, what are you going to do? Stay agile. Unite the kingdom. Unite the kingdom.

1:23:56It's our summer event again. When I look back at the last 12 months, I still look back at when we, Liam, when you said to me, how many years ago was that now? Not many. About two. Two years ago. When you had your accounts gone. I'm gone. I'm in a low place. I'm in Albir, a place near Spain. We're sitting at an ice cream place. Great ice creams. You know someone's going to crop that. They are, yeah. We're in this place and Liam said, and I'm pretty down, and Liam said, Tom, you're coming back. You're going to come back. Don't worry, yeah. It's all going to become mainstream. The country needs it.

1:24:37We need it. And I was sitting there thinking, shut up, Liam. Mate, I've been gone for four years. Do you know the demoralised, do you know how censorship, when you're bringing about change and then it's gone and then you're doing the most important work of your life, which was the grooming gang stuff, and no one's seeing it. It's so demoralising, man. But I just kept thinking, we'll keep doing it and at some point these videos will get the views they deserve. And I remember when I was in jail with them, first of January, first week of January this year, last year, and Nicole's story got 36 million views.

1:25:13because Elon Musk shared it. So that was what I told myself at some point, the world will see these films. And then they started seeing them. I knew. Yeah, I didn't. I knew. Although you was deplatformed for years, people were still talking about you. It was as if they still needed you. The mainstream need a boogeyman. Well, that was going on. So for this year, mate, I look at the last, I look at 24 months, what we've achieved in 24 months with the United Kingdom movement, with bringing people together, with our demonstrations, celebrations, whatever you want to call them, but also with our journalism.

1:25:42I need to I need to get my journalism on the go as well it's hard because there's so many things thrown at you man well you're juggling a lot yeah how have you managed to juggle all the things you've been juggling since you've come out of jail and how has your headspace been I was meant to get released my release date and I planned a demonstration for six weeks later I never would have been able to do that like when I got out and realised I had two and a half months but still and I remember I visualised lots of things in prison and all I could think I was that angry and that upset and that annoyed with what they'd done that I just kept thinking 13th September 13th September 13th September that's all I was thinking so that's why when I walked out of that jail I just went 13th September we're coming because I thought right let's get back at it straight back at it but I weren't ready to get back at it I weren't ready for anything I don't even know that I just had a like I still think I'm up and down like a yo-yo but that's natural again it's all natural you have got better since you've come out.

1:26:42I think it's working. I think you get tortured like that. I mean, people have to remember, solitary confinement for an extended period is a torture tactic. When I went to see Vicky's mum, I was ready to explode. I remember sitting in the car and I forget, what's his name who picked me up? One of the lads. He must think I'm off my head. Because I was sitting in my car, I was ready to blow up. I was going to stop the car. Because I was just so, I don't know how to explain it. So, whether you call it anxiety, just, I'd been confined to a room and then back out. Let back out and everybody wanted their pound of flesh of you.

1:27:14Yeah, and I just wanted to go 100 miles an hour and all. I don't really have a medium mode. This is probably the calmest chat we've ever had, ever. I try to explain that. I think when I went to Israel, I think that they said it. Fucking hell, at the end of the week. Oh, you've got some energy, Giza. We didn't stop. But then because of that, sometimes I burn myself out. I'm the same. Yeah, I burn, I get myself to a point of... That'll be like an ADHD thing. Yeah. You push and push and push until you hit a brick wall. And then you can't do anything. But that's what I do every time. Whether it be with the gym, whether it be with work, whatever I do it with.

1:27:42And then sometimes, like, I just got back from Brazil recently. I went to Brazil. But people say, why do you go to Brazil? I like to go to places where I can actually relax. No one's going to know me. You're one of the most famous people in Britain. What would you say to the ordinary, like, what would you say to Joe Public? Because there's no doubt we're being invaded. Illegally and legally. No matter how you look at it. Oh, they let 1.2 million in legally. That's more of a problem than illegally. This is another thing that people miss. So migration period is a problem. It's an invasion. And now people are starting to wake up, but ordinary people don't know what the fuck to do.

1:28:17What advice would you give an ordinary person? What would you say to them? This is what you need to do to protect yourself from the current invasion that seems to be ever growing. Well, originally, we just needed to all speak about it so the public are aware of actually what's happening. Because in many towns and cities, it wasn't happening. That shift has happened now. I think the public are well aware. You can see that by September 13th. What can we do now? Support citizen journalists, support every podcast host that's talking about these things. Take your support away from the mainstream media totally and give it to the independents.

1:28:51Support political parties that are talking about these issues, that are going to address them and keep the momentum going. Make sure you're there on the 16th of May. 16th of May is going to be a historic date for the UK. So May the 16th is going to be the next Unite the Kingdom event. Event, celebration, festival, central London. Yeah, write in the comments if you was there last Unite the Kingdom event. The best thing I know. So when I meet people who went, how was it? Man, I went for a meal yesterday with some lads. Madly a lad I was in jail with in 2004. We've become friends with him in jail.

1:29:28Kept friends with him now. Really nice lad. He's done really well as well. Great success story. You meet some great men in jail. I met him in jail. He was in for a fight. He's never been in trouble again. He's a great family man, gone on to have a successful company. Many of the people you meet, yeah? So I kept in contact with him, and he said, mate, about 40 of us went from his area where he's from, Biggleswade. He said, we didn't even get near the stage of speeches, but everyone, fuck, we had such a day. So I know everyone who went felt that. And as they looked around, they felt that togetherness, that camaraderie, the hairs on the back of their neck, that real patriotism, that nationalism.

1:30:03So everyone who goes has a great day each time. There's no one that goes and says, oh, that's shit. You have to be a part of that. It's great, wouldn't it? Yeah, mate. And even though I sit back and, do you know when you said, when we was in Spain that time, I started watching old videos because I was doubting myself again. I was doubting myself whether I was ready for fucking the fight of it all because at times you're tired. And I was watching videos thinking, we did that. We done that. We done that. So when I watch September 13th now, I was looking and thinking, wow. Well, I'm thinking, how on earth are you going to top that?

1:30:33We're going to top it. Yeah, I know you will. You're going to top it. Not we're going to top it, you're going to top it. If you're the public, the only reason why that was such a success was because you come. If you didn't come, there was no success. So people could say, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. The mood of the country did it. And that mood of the country, the rest of the world looked on. People spoke about this across the world, in governments across the world. They looked at what's happening. They saw what's happening. Patriots across the world. So we want to give them something else to talk about on May 16th.

1:31:02But the only way that's going to be a success, it's not going to be a success if I do it. The success is not coming from me. I said a couple of words. I remember standing at the start saying, I visualise this. In jail every day I visualise this moment. I never visualised this. This is far superseded what I envisage. But that isn't incredibly because of me. That's because of the mood of the country. So if we want to show the world the mood of Great Britain and how we're feeling, May 16th. Not just that. Bring your families, man. Have a great day of celebration of identity in our capital city. Well, that's the thing as well.

1:31:35It is purpose built for families now. So don't think it's just, you know, hooligans. It isn't. The spectrum is just getting wider and wider. Wider and wider. It's mainstream. And it's beautiful. The day's beautiful. I hope the mainstream come and report on that day. I think GB News did, didn't they? Yeah, we don't need them to. We just do not need them to. Okay? At all. just my thing is do you see the mainstream they're irrelevant do you know what if that isn't a big fuck you to the mainstream I don't know what is I don't want them to we don't care do you know like the Guardian I hope they come we don't need them no we don't need them you're not invited you're not invited I'll tell you who's invited we had 185 last time the Citizen Journalists 185 come the next one they're coming from all over the world we've already got them Australia America Canada all of them every up and coming I've sat down with one from France this week who are doing a documentary they're really big now in France they're like GB News of France They're growing.

1:32:27This is who the public need to be supporting. And everyone who's anyone will be in London on May 16th from the world's alternative media, the new media, us. Two more things before we wrap this up. If only people realised how late it was and how hungry we are. We're going to get a roast dinner. So two things. I want to know what you took from Poland when you went out there recently. You was out there doing great work. What was your takeaway from Poland? And then I'll ask both questions now. so you can just go on a roll. What was your takeaway from Poland? And also, we've now got a whole new wave of activists because you've got these hotel protests popping up everywhere and, you know, people are enjoying the camaraderie and they're enjoying taking the lead and building communities.

1:33:11But obviously, the bigger you get into activism, the deeper you dive, the more problems that come their way. And I think a lot of people at the moment, they haven't experienced the backlash yet. So what would your, after what you took from Poland, what would your advice be to new activists? Okay, so Poland, it's upsetting when you go to a country like Poland. It's upsetting when you look at what they've done to our country. We should be like Poland. They've destroyed our country of immigration. They've destroyed it. It's not been positive. They've destroyed it. Our capital city's destroyed. Poland was beautiful.

1:33:42A country that still has its identity, has its pride, has its culture. Yeah, it was upsetting. it's the most beautiful country you can go and visit with the lowest crime rate why? well because they haven't had a mass immigration that's it they haven't allowed them they haven't allowed any illegals they've got no Islam that's it so yeah it was upsetting it's beautiful to see but upsetting because then you sit and think and I remember walking around saying look what they've done to our country how have they been able to do this to our country to our people this episode is brought to you by ChatGPT hey it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast have you guys heard about ChatGPT work?

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1:35:01Oysters, everybody! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to live. People should take a trip to Poland. and then you'll just be like, look what they've done. There's not one bit of litter. There's no aggression. There's no gangs. I think people would change their views on being so tolerant and woke. Yeah, because we're accepting bullshit. We're accepting the scum of the Middle East into our country and they're destroying it. But yeah, it was upsetting, man.

1:35:33But on the citizen journalist thing, we've been having some talks. I'd love to, this is what I'd love to see coming in soon now. I'd love to see an umbrella built for citizen journalists across the globe. I'd love to, we've reached out to quite a lot of them. I'd love to see them all coming together under one umbrella, which would maximise all of their voices. It would give each individual that's outside a hotel, whilst I want to see them, and I say this to everyone when they come on board with us, build your own channel. But we can all come together under one thing as a mass movement of citizen journalists where we can share.

1:36:11Say, for example, you've got an audience in Australia, in America now. Now, I want them all to know who the citizen journalists are in the UK. I want them to know who to support. And people want to support these groups. So I think you could have an umbrella organisation, an umbrella name that we've sort of been looking at, which I hope we put that into fruition now soon in the new year. So you think the new activists should also start looking into becoming independent journalists as well as activists? I think they should become independent journalists and they should all come under one umbrella.

1:36:37Even if you live in a little village, become the journalist of that village? Become the journalist of that village under the umbrella that's recognised as citizen journalists. You're not mainstream. You don't work under any control. But I think that all of us, I'll tell you why. Because they're all going to face relentless attack and campaigns. And if there was one umbrella organisation that could offer them security when they need it, offer them legal help when they need it, I think that's what's needed to bring them all together. Because if not, they're going to get isolated and picked off one by one.

1:37:07That's what I see happening. So I think that all power is in numbers together. having a worldwide movement of people I think we've been put in a position whether it be through Unite the Kingdom to unify people and I think that not just unifying the country I want to unify citizen journalists not just in this country but across the globe I think all of them need to come under one umbrella movement that then offers help with them and then yeah and recognition as well I think we should have a worldwide award ceremony for some of the work some of these people do that's a good shout and on a whole Are you optimistic about, it's a new year now.

1:37:42Are you optimistic about 2026? Yeah, I'm optimistic. Not for myself, because I always worry. And I think I've got a lot of problems. I'm optimistic for the direction of the country. And they can't stop it. So, but there's going to be chaos, but they can't stop what's happening. And I'm very optimistic of that. The public are awake. They're not going to go back to sleep. Once your eyes are open to the problems, you can't close them. Nah. So we've managed now to open the eyes of millions and millions, not tens of thousands, millions and millions and millions of the British public's eyes are awake.

1:38:17They're open. They're not going to close them. But that doesn't mean we've got an easy battle. We've got a hard battle. As I said, we've got the best funded ideology in the world. We've got the globalist powers, the media, all of them working against us. But what you have to look at, we've had four Unite the Kingdom events. And with all that power and all those attacks and all of that organisation against us, we succeeded each time. Help us succeed this year. Help us succeed mainly. Our biggest event is going to be on May 16th. Support our journalism, support our work, but support every citizen journalist.

1:38:47If you see someone outside a hotel doing their live reporting, support them. They're going to need your support. These men are going to need your support. They're going to face relentless attacks. There's going to be a battle coming. And it's from the mainstream media. They're going to attack them. You've seen it with a Channel 4 documentary recently against some of the citizen journalists. I think all of them deserve our support. They're earning our support. You don't have to agree with them on everything either. And they're going to make mistakes. Understand that. These citizen journalists will make mistakes with what they're doing because they're new to it.

1:39:13They need help. And what would your final message to the masses be? What would your final message be today, but also what would be your first message be as it's New Year's Day? Everyone's meant to start the gym, isn't they? Well, give them some inspiration. Give them some inspiration. It's going to be all right. Everything's going to be all right. Unfortunately, it's not. Sorry, guys. It's going to be terrible. We're going to have more rapes, more terrorism, more jihad, all coming this year because our leaders have allowed it all. My main message, though, as it's New Year's Day, would be get in the gym.

1:39:46Because, and I'll tell you why, I go up and down. When I go up and down, I'll stop the gym. When I'm in the gym, when I'm keeping fit, when I'm healthy, when I'm eating properly, I'm going up. Everything's easier. Work's easier. struggles, stresses, financial problems, marital issues, whatever problems you have in your life will be easier if you are physically fit. And it took me 39 years of my life to get to that point of realising that until I went to a boot camp. But that doesn't mean I'm always living that life because at times then I'll go a week without going to the gym and shit starts going downward again.

1:40:16So my message to anyone would be, especially as young men, if you're men, not just men, my daughter started the gym though. I'm so proud of her, yeah? She started going four times a week. I'm so happy. That, I know the importance of that in your life. So I know how big that is. So it might not be my message. Get fit, get healthy, and be ready. Because the men of this country, unfortunately, you're going to have to be ready. Because they're training. The opposition are training. They're getting fit. They're training for war. Yeah? Don't think the police are going to protect you. Do you know when the riots happened?

1:40:45Where were the police? Tell them to put their weapons away. Running away from them. When shit hits the fan in Europe, the police are not going to be there to help you. Yeah? They're just not. So as communities, we need to come together, build resistance. But mainly, you need to be fit, you need to be healthy, you need to be strong. And I'm preaching at a time when, at times, I'm not in that position myself because I know how difficult life is. But that is the best route for life. And as it is New Year's Day, I will give a little final message to you that like, watch, subscribe, join in and help this channel grow.

1:41:20So if you're not already, which you are, follow Tommy on X. Go and subscribe to his YouTube channel. That's just about to go bananas this year as well. I know what work he does in the background. He's nonstop. He's a workaholic and he's bringing it to your screens. I want to thank you for last year, all your support. William, you smashed it, bro. We've done well. You've smashed. When you think about it from two years ago, yeah, I just look at it. And with your cousin, you've smashed it from nowhere. And you told me what you were going to do. He told me, when he came up with this name, we were walking down the street.

1:41:52He goes, no, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to build the best podcast, the best podcast. I am going for it. And he had all this and you were so sure of it. But the only way it was ever going to work is to remain honest and true and don't ignore people just because you don't agree with them. So when I say, I mean, I've had a few people. I can't believe you platform that person. You've got them on your channel. Platform everyone. Platform everyone. Well, actually, I don't. Unless you've harmed a child, you're welcome here. So again, thank you. Tommy was there when we was discussing the dozen and I should do a podcast.

1:42:24And here we are now, 300 ,000 subscribers in and we've only just begun. So stick together, pull together, be strong, be a better friend. Even if you are a good friend already, be a better friend. We can always expand that pool and subscribe to the channel and give Tommy's channel a follow also. And I will see you in a few days. And there'll be a thumbnail here somewhere of another podcast for you to click, watch and enjoy. 16th of May Be there Cheers bro Cheers And we're back Streaming on Peacock May I present to you The award winning staff Of the Toledo Truth Teller Slap me Let's jar something loose Ay yes I like that The certified fresh series returns Your boss You always like this Or is this just an Oh no this isn't it Oysters everybody There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone.

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