The Shameless Plug: He-Man, Hamm-Man

9:39Nick de Semlyen:It's very exciting. But a lot of it is going to happen on Eternia, which is exciting because the 80s movie, the Dolph Lundgren one, stayed on Earth and frankly suffered for it and didn't really feel like full-on fantasy, whereas this is really going for it. And you're going to get not just Skeletor, but a whole host of He-Man rogues gallery. You're going to get Battle Cat. You're going to get a lot of surprises. I'm hearing good things about this. I'm hearing things. and I genuinely excited for it. But yeah, we sent Dan Jolin. He Dan. He Dan.

10:12Chris Hewitt:He Dan.

10:13Nick de Semlyen:Who else could we send? I mean, literally anyone. He's the closest thing we have to He-Man, which says a lot about it.

10:21Chris Hewitt:I'm going to interrogate that statement, Nick. What do you mean? Dan, who's shorter than me, which is saying something. He's the closest we have to Ram Man. I don't think he's the closest we have to He-Man.

10:34Nick de Semlyen:He told me that as he was leaving the set, he got to go around Castle Grayskull and all that and Nicholas Galatine was on a treadmill and he invited Dan to join him not on the same treadmill presumably but on one next to him and Dan politely declined which was maybe the wisest course of action in that situation What if Dan had died? Yeah If Dan had died

10:56Chris Hewitt:would you have given him the subs cover? No Don't be silly

10:59Nick de Semlyen:What? No

11:00Chris Hewitt:You're saying if one of us dies on Empire Duty we're not going to get the subs cover?

11:03Nick de Semlyen:Absolutely not

11:04Chris Hewitt:We'll see if it's a slow month but yeah

11:07Nick de Semlyen:Dan got to sit on Skeletor's throne and he had a pretty wild day watching watching shit go down in Eternia

11:14Chris Hewitt:shit went down oh my god shit went down and Dan has captured that excitement in his opening sentence for the feature which is Empire is in Eternia thanks Dan he goes on to explain other things there is more yeah there is more there's more it's about 3 ,000 more we never saw him again It just disappeared into a portal, yeah. He just filed four words and went, that's it? Thanks very much. But Nick, Dan has sent you some He-Man gold, right? Well, that's what I just told you. Is it He-Man or He-Man? I literally just gave you that gold.

11:49Nick de Semlyen:Yeah, but that wasn't gold. Give me more gold. Well, okay, all right. Dan has revealed exclusively for this podcast that Skeletor's throne is very bony. Wow. this is the shit that was too too bad to get into the future there is a story he gave me but it's not suitable for a podcast

12:10Chris Hewitt:it's suitable for this podcast but yeah you're not going to say it are you? I'm not going to say it alright tease the reader tease the reader this is exciting we have amazing first look pictures from this Dan interviewed loads and loads of people it's really really really cool we have a first look at Skeletor himself himself. Alison Brie as Evil Lynn.

12:34Nick de Semlyen:Alison Brie as Evil Lynn. And there is a character we can confirm exclusively in this film called Fisto. So, I mean,

12:44Chris Hewitt:it's not Chekhov, but it's going to be a lot of fun. If you get that toy but you have to build it yourself, is that a Fisto kit? Anyway, that's exciting. This looks really, really cool and it is out later on this year, June the 5th. June the 5th that is when Masters of the Universe will be hitting cinemas I think it's going to be a rolligan good time let's move on shall we to the next feature which was written well what's the word curated by me I think not really written by me it says words Chris Hewitt but most of the words here are actually from Rennie Harlan himself because this is a feature celebrating Rennie Harlan who has a new movie out called Deep Water later on in the summer and has as its centerpiece a terrifying plane crash sequence.

13:42Chris Hewitt:And it got us thinking about how Rennie Harlan through his career has marshaled some incredible set pieces from the opening of Cliffhanger to Sam Jackson's unfortunate speech in Deep Blue Sea to the Escape from the Cockpit that Bruce Willis does in Die Hard 2 all sorts of stuff and we thought who better to explain these set pieces than Renny Harlan himself so we got him on Zoom

14:07Nick de Semlyen:and I spoke to him

14:09Chris Hewitt:for over two hours

14:10Nick de Semlyen:he's a real talker isn't he I've interviewed Renny Harlan I interviewed Renny Harlan in 2020 and this film I will wager may not exist were it not for me because at the end of this interview he said we had been talking about Deep Blue Sea a little bit and his love of sharks and how great a shark movie that is and he said i'm thinking about doing another movie involving sharks do you think i should whoa maybe i shouldn't i don't know i can't decide i said rennie you gotta do it if it's got

14:33Chris Hewitt:sharks in there you gotta do it rennie and and and hence this film exists purely because of me

14:38Nick de Semlyen:maybe maybe i'm not saying i want to cut if it makes a lot of money but um but anyway no he's great and and at the end of i i interviewed him for two hours and at the end of that interview he said i've been on a guess what nick i've been on a treadmill this whole time i was like wow okay And was the treadmill moving? Because that's been impressive.

14:54Chris Hewitt:Maybe Nicholas Gillitson was on it.

14:56Nick de Semlyen:Had Dan declined to sound next to Rennie Harlan? Dan had relinquished it and Rennie popped on. But no, Rennie Harlan is a great talker. He's got great stories. He's done some amazing sequences. I love the cliffhanger sequence that opens cliffhanger. As spoofed by Ace Ventura, When Nature Calls, where Jim Carrey saves a raccoon. But yeah, the Nightmare on Elm Street 4, the pizza with the faces on it. I mean... It's all there. It's all there.

15:24Chris Hewitt:So you've got some good anecdotes. He was on terrific form. Really, really loved doing that. Loved talking to Rennie. And hopefully he'll be on the Empire podcast at some point.

15:33Nick de Semlyen:All right, moving on. Nick, Ready or Not,

15:36Chris Hewitt:Here I Come is the name of the sequel to Ready or Not, which was a surprise hit when it debuted a few years ago, directed by Radio Silence, aka Matt Bettinelli, Olpin and Tyler Gillette and starred Samara Weaving as a woman who got married into a very, very rich family and then was told she had to play a game where that rich family tried to hunt her down and kill her and if she survived until morning she would survive and bad things would happen to the family and, spoiler alert, here's a sequel so I think you can guess how that movie ends although I don't think you can guess how it specifically ends and it's been a while but they're back Radio Silence are back Samara Weaving's back and she's brought back up

16:23Nick de Semlyen:in the form of

16:24Chris Hewitt:Catherine Newton yeah

16:26Nick de Semlyen:and Beth Webb yeah yeah and it's a banging cast Elijah Wood is in it it's got David Cronenberg in it yes yes

16:33Chris Hewitt:it's got it's got all kinds of Sarah Michelle Gellar

16:36Nick de Semlyen:yeah Sarah Michelle Gellar it feels like they're kind of going in a sort of John Wickie direction where the first one was a success and now they're expanding the mythology and they're bringing in all these new characters and new families. So this time the heroes are being hunted by multiple groups. And yeah, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Beth got to go to the set and she got to ride in a golf buggy with Sarah Michelle Gellar. I'm pretty jealous about that. Sarah Michelle Gellar, who was holding a dueling pistol. So you can't ask for a better set visit than that, really.

17:11Nick de Semlyen:But yeah, it's exciting. Radio Silencer, of course, doing the next Mummy film. there's a lot of excitement for that

17:19Chris Hewitt:yeah there is there is a lot of excitement for that and there's a lot of excitement for this as well the first movie was a decent sized hit when it came out but it has really snowballed I think in the pandemic a lot of people discovered it it's on Disney Plus right now and so it so this sequel and so this sequel is a bigger proposition in many many ways I think the expectations are a little bit higher as well than they were of the first film and Beth went to Toronto one of my favorite cities. So I hope she had an amazing time. She came back and she wrote the following opening sentence. By the way, I didn't do an opening sentence for Rennie Harland because there is no opening sentence for Rennie Harland.

17:59Chris Hewitt:It's all in his voice. Shark ate it. I don't. Yes, that's what my excuse was. Where's your intro? Shark ate my intro. I don't want to do a Rennie Harland impression because he's the size of a snowmobile and would punch me in the face probably. So here is Beth's opening line. The moment where, this is a quote, The moment where I went, okay, this is a crazy time, was when people were getting tattoos of my face on their shins. And that's a quote from Samara Weaving.

18:27Nick de Semlyen:Do you have a tattoo of Samara Weaving on your shin?

18:29Chris Hewitt:No, I've got a tattoo of Samara Weaving's shin on my face. I was wondering what that was. It's not very clear. It's just, to the untrained eye,

18:39Nick de Semlyen:it just looks like a shin. But it's Samara Weaving's shin. Thanks for specifying and clearing that one up. But yeah, no, this is a great read, and Beth got some really great information out of them. The story for this film was broken in a Las Vegas casino in the Bellagio. That's where they came up with this story.

18:55Chris Hewitt:What? Have they hit the jackpot? We'll find out. All bets are off. In mid-March. We will. Next feature is something we did a shoot for, Nick. It is an interview with James McAvoy, the great actor James McAvoy, as he becomes, hopefully, a great director as well with his directorial debut, California Scheman. And we sent Jimmy Famourewa along to interview him. So it's a Q &A with James McAvoy, who is one of my favorite people in this industry. And I think his personality really comes across in this.

19:28Nick de Semlyen:He's very, very sharp and witty. James McAvoy was the first person I ever interviewed for Empire. Was he? And we were sitting on beanbags. It was for a film called Inside I'm Dancing. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. He was a lovely fellow. I could not have asked for a nicer person to have that experience with. and, you know, 20 plus years on, he's still really exciting, making interesting, cool stuff. He's stepping up and directing for the first time with this film, California Scheming, and yeah, it's a really cool time to catch up with him and he is on great form, as always. We also did our own shoot for this.

20:06Nick de Semlyen:Zoe McConnell shot him and it's really colorful and fun and vibrant and so is his film.

20:11Chris Hewitt:So is his film. Jimmy took time out from being on MasterChef long enough to write this feature. His first line is a quote from James McAvoy. So, how do I do this? I'm going to put my usual voice through the Scott-o-meter. One of the things I'd say about my career is that I've never really inhabited just a single character type for very long.

20:37Nick de Semlyen:You went full Shrek there. That was alarming and offensive. yeah just wildly offensive let's move on but no this is it's a hate crime it's not a hate crime I love the Scots but yeah he talks about yeah you know every time we want to do one of these big Q &As you still want to have a kind of an angle and sort of a theme to the interview and here it's McAvoy talking about why he's fascinated in just so many different types of characters you know he's and this film California Scheming is about two Scottish lads who are pretending to be American and there's always like to James McAvoy's own characters the ones he plays as well there's always like multiple facets and you know obviously split but going right down to pretty much anyone you can imagine there's lots of different elements so he talks all about that and why that's like really appealing for him yes indeed very much so that is a terrific terrific feature

21:32Chris Hewitt:next up complete contrast is the Magic Faraway Tree it's a feature by the Magic Faraway Tree the classic book by Enid Blyton. Books, sir. I believe books. These were big for me.

21:44Nick de Semlyen:He-Man wasn't so big in my childhood, but the magic faraway tree weirdly was. I have never read any of these. Consume them. I once had a terrible nightmare about the Sandman because there's like, the idea is there's a tree. Every time you go up it, there is a different land and they rotate. And so some of these lands are good. There's like the land of birthdays where you get presents and cake. Some of the lands are bad and scary and ominous. And if you stay in the land too long, it takes you away and you have to stay there until it comes all the way around again which could be forever maybe my mythology my far away mythology is a little bit rusty but basically there is one land where there is the sand man who puts sand in your eyes and you fall asleep and then you miss the tree leaving and it's terrible and so I remember being quite freaked out by him but yes this is as the headline for this article says out of their tree it is a truly deranged project but with great people involved and Simon Farnaby being uppermost among them I would say as the writer of this but yeah also the director Ben Greger Ben Greger and a lot of interesting people involved Michael Palin's in this Andrew Garfield and Claire Foyer in this there's a load of youngsters there's a lot of talented people and I am fascinated to find out what this film is because it looks insane.

23:09Nick de Semlyen:Yeah, it looks mad. And there is a character in this called Saucepan Man who is a man covered in saucepans. And he's there on our opener. And we sent Alex Godfrey along, our features editor, and he did an amazing job of... He's really... He shares my excitement for it. And, yeah, has come back and filed a truly incredible story, which is hilarious and unexpected, let's say. But he did at one point ask Saucepan Man, or rather the actor playing him. What's under the saucepans? And the man said, Rage.

23:44Chris Hewitt:Okay, well, this sounds great. Rebecca Ferguson's in it as well. I don't know if you mentioned her. Yeah, this looks absolutely bonkers and hopefully it can capture some of that old Paddington magic from Simon Farnaby.

23:54Nick de Semlyen:It looks like it's going to be a lot of fun. It's Dustin Demery Burns, the actor who played the saucepan man. I want to give him his sauce props.

24:02Chris Hewitt:Indeed.

24:03Nick de Semlyen:All right, by complete contrast, Nick, we then have a feature about the most depressing movie ever made. I do love, sorry, I do love the pivot from Magic Far Away Tree to Fred's.

24:13Chris Hewitt:Yeah, is that deliberate? Kind of, yeah. When you're sitting down and you're figuring out where to put the features.

24:18Nick de Semlyen:It's the last thing that we do, really, right? We do a run-through on the week where we finish the issue press week, and that's the point where we move things around and we kind of come up with the flow of everything. And some of that is looking at the design, so you don't want any two repetitive-looking things to be next to each other, or two similar things. Other times, you want it to be a little bit jarring. And I think it tickled us, Magic Faraway Tree, segwaying into the bleakest film ever made. Which is? Fred's. Mick Jackson's Fred's. A film which features a melting ET toy. But also many other deeply unpleasant things.

24:54Nick de Semlyen:So this is the Sheffield-set nuclear disaster thriller. I don't know, is it even a thriller? It's just bleak and depressing. It's not thrilling, no. No. Well, we call it a thriller, so we should probably... I'm going to quibble with that. It's a thriller. Write in, please. But yeah, when was it made?

25:16Chris Hewitt:It was made in the mid-80s. It was made around 83, 84, something like that.

25:20Nick de Semlyen:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's one of those films you hear about before you see it because it's got such a reputation of just being a film that you watch and then for the next week you are just trudging around, feeling hopeless and terrified. And it holds up. I saw it for the first time only a couple of years ago and it had that effect on me. I watched it on a nice, beautiful summer's day and then just felt depressed.

25:46Chris Hewitt:It just really captures what life in Sheffield is like. I'm only joking. I say that because Dick went to university in Sheffield.

25:54Nick de Semlyen:I did, I did. And it wasn't anything like Friends. There were no melting toys or cannibalism. But, you know, it's a film that is endured, and they are remaking it. Are they? They are remaking it. Who's they? Warp. Warp Films? Yeah, Warp Films, a Sheffield-based film production company. And actually, Mick Jackson, so we spoke to Mick Jackson, our writer for this, by the way, a new writer for us, Daniel Dillon-Ray, and he spoke to Mick Jackson, and Mick Jackson quibbled with Warp's synopsis of the remake because they at one point in their sort of release announcing it it's not been filmed yet to the best of my knowledge but in a press release they said that this film is going to highlight how resilience and connection can offer hope even in the most challenging of times and Mick Jackson said you shouldn't use the word hope anywhere near Fred's the whole point of it is just there is no hope if this happens

26:52Chris Hewitt:oh it's extraordinarily bleak like I think the nuclear the nuclear war itself is the bleakest part of the film. No, it's not. It gets worse. Yeah. Yeah. Threads is a film that once seen is very, very difficult to forget. I did a big piece on this in my section a couple of years ago with Mick Jackson as well. This is a film, I wouldn't say it's my favorite film or one of my favorite films, but if you want... It makes for a great double bill, Happy Gilmore.

27:21Nick de Semlyen:But Threads first and then Happy Gilmore, that's very important. Watch Passive Dynamite and then watch this. yeah I mean it's I would say it's a much more powerful film than House of Dynamite and it lingers with you and it's not just about the horror of the actual bomb and even the fallout it's about society disintegrating and it's about that you know people turning on each other and anger and despair and basically Empire Press Week it really captures that same spirit but no this is a fantastic read and if you haven't seen Threads well double billet

28:00Chris Hewitt:with Happy Gilmore but do check it out oh shit I forgot to do Alex's first line for the Far Away Tree feature which is saucepan man saunter's over for a chat shaking empire

28:10Nick de Semlyen:by the hand clanking up a storm right okay

28:14Chris Hewitt:and then this Daniel Dillon Ray's opening line for Threads is by September 23rd 1984 autumn was settling in the nights were getting darker and the air

28:28Nick de Semlyen:a little chillier I feel like this whole first line experiment is not entirely fair to some of the writers because sometimes you're setting up something

28:36Chris Hewitt:I was taught by my English teacher Mr. Neeson to always write a first sentence that grabbed you he didn't say by the chaff as Alan Partridge but like got the listeners' attention right away and I have my entire career I have strived not to do that as you can tell me you've yet to write

28:53Nick de Semlyen:I've yet to write a good sentence.

28:55Chris Hewitt:But these are all, I would say all of these are great first sentences. Well, I've got, okay, so I don't have a good first sentence in my Renny Harlan, but I think I do have a good first sentence in the first bit of my section, which is the Final Cut section, which is the home entertainment section. And for the opener for that, it's always a four-page Q &A with a director or an actor. This time it is Rian Johnson talking about Wake Up Dead Man and also the Benoit Blanc trilogy. And my opening line is, Ryan Johnson is puffing away on a cigar almost as big as his head. Exaggeration, Nick. It wasn't as big as his head.

29:31Chris Hewitt:It was pretty big. No wonder people are losing faith in the fake news media. It was as long as both of his ears strung together.

29:38Nick de Semlyen:Okay. All right. Well, look, for the sake of brevity, it's a good first line. Let's move on. It's a good first line

29:44Chris Hewitt:and a really good interview with Ryan Johnson. So let's fly through this. Give my section the respect it deserves, you motherfucker. we also have Vince Gilligan talking about Pluribus we have a story of the shot of Who Framed Roger Rabbit we have a piece about I Swear with Robert Arameo and Kirk Jones the director and Embeth Davids is his month's time capsule she's had a really fascinating career and she was really good on that career when I showed her a bunch of pictures from it so yeah there we go let's go to the front of the magazine alright we've already done the best section which is my section

30:18Nick de Semlyen:let's memento it let's memento it

30:19Chris Hewitt:we are running rapidly out of time hence the sudden alacrity but Nick what's happening in Beth Webb's section the first word section we should always say that John's section John Newton's section the reviews section is excellent and if you want to know what to what we think about movies and TV shows and games and books that are out this month and going into last month as well check that out it's fantastic

30:44Nick de Semlyen:from front to back The Secret Agent is the lead review this month which is maybe a bit unexpected it's a smaller film but it's one that we saw, we loved, we gave it the five shiny red stars and you should go and see it because it's out right now. And if you thought that was unexpected, you'll see what the opener is

30:57Chris Hewitt:next month.

30:59Nick de Semlyen:Indeed. Indeed. Right, so there's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. So we've got a piece, a reported piece on video game movies. Are they the new superhero movies? We say maybe. But yeah, we're looking at this new trend where everything from Split Fiction, which is a game I am playing and loving at the moment, that's getting turned into a Sidney Sweeney film to The Legend of Zelda to Zack Greger's Resident Evil film. Can't wait for that. There's a lot going on so we're unpacking all of that. We talk about The Hollywood Sign and it's sort of it's interesting history of you know Sidney Sweeney just covered it with bras and Same.

31:37Nick de Semlyen:Did you say same? Same. Okay. I'm always covering The Hollywood Sign and bras. Okay. The Scream. We talked to Kevin Williamson. He's back for Scream 7. He's been away from the franchise for ages.

31:46Chris Hewitt:Beth spoke to Lisa Kudrow. and had Zoom connectivity issues.

31:51Nick de Semlyen:I asked Beth for an anecdote about this interview and she said that the Zoom, Lisa Kudrow had to move to another room to get a better signal. But yeah, that was a great interview. That's about the comeback. I love the comeback. It's an amazing HBO cringe comedy. Beloved by David Bowie. Lisa Kudrow talks about how David Bowie used to ask for episodes. That's exciting. What else have we got? We talk about manga. We look at Hollywood's increasing manga fixation. we talked to the writers of Project Hail Mary. Yeah, which from all reports so far, Nick, is an absolute stormer of a movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

32:29Chris Hewitt:Yeah, so I'm very much looking forward to seeing that one. That's Andy Weir who wrote the novel and Drew Goddard who adapted it. Yeah.

32:34Nick de Semlyen:And just two final things. My favorite headline of the issue are the Notorious P.I.G., which is a deep dive into Miss Piggy who is having her solo moment. There's Emma Stone, Jennifer Lawrence making a Miss Piggy movie. Bring it on. and finally John Hamm Pine of Milk now we have been trying to get John Hamm to do Pine of Milk for as long as I can remember we finally tracked down our quarry and it was worth it he is very funny and entertaining and he reveals some of his nicknames okay

33:05Chris Hewitt:what are they I mean we've got it here okay it's what you'd expect yeah he's been Ham and Cheese Hammer Hammer Time Ham Bone do you think do you think Hamnet will enter the lexicon do you think anyone's going to start calling him Hamnet. I think we should. Hamlet, Hamnet. How about the notorious PIG?

33:23Nick de Semlyen:That would be good. Well, he came to the office for a web chat and noticed a sticker that we randomly had on a cupboard that said, I love ham. I love ham. And he pointed at it. And it was a joke.

33:33Chris Hewitt:We have a picture of John Ham

33:35Nick de Semlyen:pointing. But he brought that picture up himself when he did this pint of milk. He mentioned that picture himself and brought it up. Yes, he asked. He asked where it was. He asked. Where is it?

33:44Chris Hewitt:Yeah, I've got it.

33:45Nick de Semlyen:So we should share it with him. Have you got it? The picture or the sticker? I think you wanted to know where the sticker was. I haven't got the cupboard. No, I didn't take the cupboard, but I've got the photo. He wants the sticker. He wanted to know if we still had the sticker. It's unreasonable.

33:55Chris Hewitt:Well, yeah. It's ages ago.

33:56Nick de Semlyen:The sticker was laid off some time ago. But anyway, we got Jon Hamm. We got him. He told us how much he thinks a pint of milk is by the issue to find out that answer.

34:06Chris Hewitt:Hey, Nick. Chris. Hamm and He-Man almost had the same number of letters. Right. Did you...

34:15Nick de Semlyen:Was that intentional? Ham and He-Man Ham, Ham, Ham, Ham, Man Ham, He-Man I'm not sure what's happening here I think we're done I think this marks the end of this episode If you stuck with us, why?

34:29Chris Hewitt:Yeah Hey Nick, I'm on form and contents I'm on form I'm absolutely fucking firing on contents Video game movies How They're Sweeping Hollywood After the success of Rupert Ostland's The Triangle, Triangle Circle L2 of Sadness

34:42Nick de Semlyen:That's genuinely good

34:43Chris Hewitt:That's genuinely good Do you get the one about Scream 7?

34:46Nick de Semlyen:Yes, you're screaming the number seven. Thank you.

34:49Chris Hewitt:Pint of milk. I genuinely was about to say, Nick, there's a typo in the pint of milk, but it's deliberate. You are. No, this is good. This is good. This is good. And there's even a reference to Scott Aukerman's and Adam Scott's Are You Talking? R.E.M. Re. Me in there. So that's good. I'm excited about that. Well, Jon Hamm is a regular guest on Comedy Bang Bang, by the way. And yet, I don't believe it's ever been on the Empire podcast. Sort it the fuck out. Ham Bone Hamnet

35:19Nick de Semlyen:Hamman Hamman Hamnet it's gonna stick Hamnet's gonna stick if you see John Ham in the street shout Hamnet at him and tell us it's from us

35:27Chris Hewitt:slap a sticker on him saying I love Hamnet yeah

35:30Nick de Semlyen:one of my favorite all time interview if anyone is still with us but one of my favorite all time one of my favorite all time interviewing experiences was in Atlanta I went there for Baby Driver and I ended up sorry Nick

35:40Chris Hewitt:that's all the time we have hey

35:41Nick de Semlyen:I ended up talking I ended up sitting in the middle of a road well it wasn't in the middle of the road it was on the side of the road it was on the pavement and we talked about Garth Maranke's Dark Place John Hamm and I and he was a lovely

35:55Chris Hewitt:lovely fellow he is a lovely lovely man I have interviewed him but I don't think ever on the podcast I might be wrong about that what am I a walking spreadsheet anyway on that note that is it for this episode of the Shameless Plug shorter than usual but I think you'll agree we made up for it with Thim and Figure Nick Vem Vendors

36:13Nick de Semlyen:and Brian Vigga, our two favorite directors. Yes, thank you for listening and send us some questions. Do send us some questions.

36:22Chris Hewitt:Send questions. I have questions. I'll put a shout out. We need to have time to do the listener questions thing. At the moment, we don't have time. But we will have time at some point. But anyway, goodbye, Nick. Goodbye. See you next time. See you next time. Do you want to go see Threads? Yeah, why not? Do you recognize locations from Sheffield

36:39Nick de Semlyen:when you're watching it? They don't really look like that. I mean, it's, I think you can see a melted Broomhill friary at one point. I'll have to watch it again and freeze frame.

36:51Chris Hewitt:Yeah, but if you touch a fucking brick of the Crucible Theatre in Sheffield, I'll have your head, nuclear bomb people. Anyway, on that note.

37:00Nick de Semlyen:I once got asked if I wanted to DJ back-to-back with Steve Davis. Really? I think it was in town. Why do you say this at the end of the podcast? We'll talk about it next time. Oh my God. Come back next time.

37:09Chris Hewitt:That's the most interesting thing you've ever said. Oh, that's extraordinary. Thanks for listening. See you next time. Bye-bye.