242. Tinie Tempah on UK Vs USA Artists, Secret Ed Sheeran Song & Becoming a YouTuber…

11:45Cal:that economy good we were trying our best bro but now we're like oh shit we need to

11:49Chip:the liver just can't hack it the hangovers are so bad yeah to be honest i think everything in moderation, isn't it? Like everything to a responsible level. I'm not in any run club, but I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. So that's my whole thing. Fucking sick. Yeah, yeah. So that's my club, my school. What belt are you? Purple belt now. Purple belt. Give me the rankings. Where are we? So it starts with white, then goes to blue, then purple, then brown, then black.

12:13Cal:Oh, so you're doing decent. When did you start that, by the way? I started like six years ago. Oh, shit. So you fancy yourself

12:19Chip:in a scrap then? Pretty handy. Yeah. Come on. Come on, this is offering it out. No, I think if I was to, because I've always asked this, I want to be able to back myself in any sort of fight that I would come across on a night out. But then I think, okay, so what discipline would you want to do? Jiu-jitsu is one of those ones that just like sneak up on you.

12:40Cal:Is it a case of like, let's just say, God forbid, you get into a situation, are you now thinking, oh, I can handle myself a bit better now because of the training I've had? Are you thinking you would use some of that? Yeah, to be honest, I think the longer you do it, you learn that you hopefully never want to be in a situation where you have to use it like firstly do you get what I mean yeah like on a responsible level but I feel confident enough that if I was

13:03Chip:ever in any situation can I be honest bro it'd be so funny if there was just a video like tiny's got this guy in an arm bar on the street yeah like he's got you see that security guard that did it did you see the meme of the security guard it's just he just got him like that yeah like he's got I'm in a triangle choke. Wait, is that Tiny Temple? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've competed a couple of times. So that's where I actually go and like do the thing properly. And the competitions are pretty intense, but I've won like two gold. So yeah, I literally, that's one of the things here. That's insane.

13:33Chip:What's it like competing at these things? Honestly, that must be fucking weird. Just rocking up like, all right, I'm going to go. Hold on. Is that, am I about to get fucking better? So that's exactly what happens. So you basically, you step into the arena and then you've got maybe like three or four fights they're all on this kind of like like leaderboard or some sort of like board that tells you what's going on and everyone's got their little sections to kind of like get ready prepare stretch warm up so i'll just be there just stretching warming up then someone be like hang on is that tiny and then all of a sudden that crowd will get bigger and bigger and bigger and it just makes the whole experience so much more nerve-wracking and gut-wrenching.

14:14Yeah. Because my thing is, I just don't want to end up on someone. Obviously, if you lose, you lose, isn't it? It is what it is. Oh, there you go. But I don't want to end up on someone's highlight role, like in a guillotine or, do you get what I mean? With Frisky playing in the background. With Frisky playing in the background. You get what I'm saying?

14:29Cal:You just motivated the opponent more because he's like, yo, I could beat Tanya. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I could beat that guy in the moment. That's exactly what I'm saying.

14:36Chip:Oh, no. Yeah, that would be horror, actually. I didn't really think about that. But one day what we should do is when I'm doing a class, I'll invite you guys down. I'm so game. We'll have a bit of fun.

14:48Cal:I don't know if it'll be fun for us. The fundamentals. Yeah, there you go. There you go. That's something. That's it. There you go. It's like a finer snake. A finer snake. That is a bit what it's like.

15:00Chip:Yeah.

15:01Cal:Have you been just like,

15:04Chip:have you ever gone into one of those fights and just been completely like dominated? like you just yeah yeah yeah so the first competition i did um obviously i was like a fish out of water but i was like i want to do this and um i remember the first couple of seconds i was just on the floor so i was just looking at the guy first couple seconds i'm on the floor then the guy's like taking my back then the guy and then i'm looking at the scoreboard and basically he's clocking up like three points four points five points so then my heart's beating because there's this whole thing of just trying to like maintain your composure and be calm throughout the whole process it's typically like a five or six minute fight and i'm looking at the scoreboard and it's like six zero eight zero ten zero so at this point i'm like fuck this forget trying to like hurt this guy just try and survive like yeah try and not get choked out and so i survived i made it to the end and i think he won by like ten zero but after after that i went away and I learned my lesson.

16:05Locked in. Came back much better.

16:07Chip:A couple lessons from that one. I've seen that they do this in UFC and MMA. Is somebody that's particularly good at wrestling or jujitsu, and you can sometimes catch it on the hot mic, is what they'll do is they'll get somebody and then they just start trash talking them as they've got them in like a lock or just like kind of hard. Have you had anybody either do that to you or do you do that? No, so basically what happened in my experience is just before the fight, like I said, people will recognize who I am and then they'll start having a really friendly conversation with me. So I remember one time...

16:42What, in the middle of the fight? No, no, just before. Oh, okay. So you're kind of standing up. You're kind of standing up next to your opponent here and you're waiting by the mat to go and do your thing. And I remember just having a chinwag with the guy and my coach was shouting at me from like across the hall and it's like, don't talk to him, T. Don't talk to him. He's trying to get into your head. Because it's very like, oh, nice. It's like we have to get a picture after this. But these guys are lethal, lethal guys. So yeah, I definitely learned my lesson there. Just yeah, headphones on, focus, go in, win.

17:12Don't talk to anyone. But like you said, during a fight, when people are trying to get into your head, there's this thing called a smother choke. So there's a thing where like people can literally just put their like hand over your mouth. You can't breathe. Yeah, so they'll have you in a dominant position and they'll just do that. And if your arms are trapped, then obviously you can't like fight off their hands. Yeah. That is one of the most annoying things ever. How do you tap out

17:37Chip:from that then? If you're actually getting just with the leg as well. Yeah, with your leg. What if I got the shakes? That's one of the most embarrassing things ever. Is that actually embarrassing? Try and avoid that at all costs. It hasn't happened to me yet. A leg tap out. Yeah, nah. I hope I never see a TikTok of you like tapping out. I'll be in the comments saying nah, this is a hell of a... That will be a sad day for Tiny Tom. I'll be reposting that one. Oh, you will, yeah? Stitch this clip With that one I hope this never happens to me Just cut to him Done Yeah No no no It's never gonna happen You heard it here first Amazing Look one of the things That has popped up Is obviously One of the most iconic tunes That you dropped Was Pass Out Yeah Turning 15 Crazy The whole teenager Bro Mad That is First of all That's just insane And is a reminder Of our age

18:27Cal:Yeah I was 15 When it came out

18:29Chip:Look at that oh shit how mad that is that that's so crazy was there obviously in that album sort of time era genuinely there are like 10 15 20 just mega songs i was on the spotify earlier and even the streams it is racked up to this day when back then streaming wasn't even yeah it wasn't is is there one of those songs that just seemed to have transcended the rest or like the one that you felt really just propelled you into the next level like like i said there's a lot of them in there but is there one that stands out to you that you think oh this is the this is the one that took me to the next level do you know what when you create music is a bit of a weird thing because you see them as your kind of children well i do anyway is that why you said oh it's a teenager yeah it's a literally like going to college and everything but like yeah when you make tunes for me anyway like they're so personal to me that i almost see it like a child so when i'm thinking of one that like propelled me to like a different place it's like they all have their different like they've all played their different roles if that makes sense so pass out was definitely like a seminal record i feel like that's an anthem like forever especially in the uk but i would say the one that definitely started taking me to a different place would probably be like written in the stars because written in the stars was like the theme do you want to know why he's gassed and he said this beforehand and he's asked me to specifically mention this is the fact that this is a uh it was the premier league intro exactly and that's obviously what we just kept seeing 100 so premier league intro every sunday you're seeing it and then um wrestlemania theme song like so many like massive massive and then obviously i performed at the olympics as well 2012 so that record definitely took me to a different place and then in terms of like dance music and house music i'd say miami to ibfa that was like i will never forget when we did madison square gardens um Swedish House Mafia sold it out.

20:25But the crowd was literally filled with like, I don't want to say A-list because I hate that whole terminology, A-list, B-list, C-list, but I've never seen a crowd where all of the faces were like people that I've seen in like mad movies, magazine covers. It was like Jason Statham, Rosie Huntington, Wyatt Lee, Usher. They were just in the crowd. Nah, Usher vietnamese. It was ridiculous. It was ridiculous. So yeah, I remember just standing on the stage, Madison Square Gardens sold out thinking what the hell like I made this tune in Chiswick do you know what I mean like I made this tune in Chiswick and now I'm all the way here like this is ridiculous so

21:03Chip:with the US how is it because I know a lot of artists in the UK particularly when they start getting a bit of traction over here they always ask the question like are they going to be able to break the US you were definitely somebody like you said you can't go to MSG and sell it out without breaking the US was that something that you were actively there like oh that's the next step for me did you go over there and you go and oh you know what I prefer doing my stuff over in the UK like what is that like and is it as difficult as people make it out to be do you know what I think it's a combination of like your own personal goals but then it's also like the goals of like the people around you so maybe like at the time a record label or like I guess even just as a British rapper you always feel like okay if I could crack America I have a little bit of it that'd be amazing but I think today I've probably I've sold over 5 million records in america do you get i mean so for me um i feel like i've done a bit had like a top 10 billboard hit had like a number one billboard dance here in america so i'm happy but i feel like what makes us unique is our britishness um and so like loads of my friends that are artists ended up moving to la and stuff like that but i remember i was always in two minds like i just couldn't do it have you guys ever like we we always we bring this up we're actually la haters is it we just every time we've been over there it just feels weird anytime we've been longer than like a week it's just a completely different way

22:28Cal:I feel like a real place because everything's all like it's like a social status game over there you've just got to be someone or you've got to be doing something it's just weird yeah so I wouldn't say I'm an LA hater but I'm a bit like you guys it just wasn't like really for me in terms of like living then and thinking of the future now I've got kids and stuff like do you know what I mean raising a family and all of that but yeah I think to be able to be a british act that makes waves in america is pretty cool um but in terms of like is it at the forefront of my mind i need to dominate this place or whatever not really if it happens it happens but that's not why i make music what do you think of this uh of the current state of uk

23:08Chip:music because i feel like we definitely even maybe around covid time before that it was actually like you know there was a lot of talk about it people really enjoy it and i feel like lately it's been a little bit maybe more quiet not not as many people really making that big breakthrough how have you how have you found it yeah it's a good question man i mean i think there's there's a whole bunch of incredible uk talent i think we've always had that and i think around the world maybe not necessarily rap music out of the uk but uk artists have always done really well if you think of your eds and adels and do you get i mean people like that yeah the mega stars they are really mega stars um but i feel at the moment i think the statistic was over the last one or two years maybe it's changed now but we haven't had any like uk number ones that are from like a uk artist properly i think maybe stormzy had one last year yeah with chasing status and then maybe there's one or two others but it hasn't been crazy like how it was before um and i think i think yeah i think at the moment it's definitely very saturated i think we're seeing loads of artists blowing up on social media having like a big viral moment and then maybe that song doing pretty well but then beyond that it kind of just fizzles out you know i mean it'll be one thing that's why when you're saying pass out is 15 years old i know people are still playing that song to this day i don't think we're seeing that as much anymore but things just move quickly yeah things just move quickly like the burn rate of things is so much quicker and i think that's like my approach to like releasing music now i'm kind of very aware of that and very comfortable with that as well do you get i mean people are listening to podcasts now as much and hopefully yeah you got i mean as much as they are records and into so many different things audiobooks etc so it just is what it is but

24:56Cal:we move in it yeah you know what it is tiktok as well because like it's so easy to come across like new bangers and new music constantly being fed to you just as quick as like a 10 second scroll that's like it makes things just people just moving on so quickly like they've got one song the loving that might back in the day lasted for a good time and then two weeks later they're

25:14Chip:already on to the next one yeah like i wonder yeah i wonder if now the songs that were like playing over like are we gonna have what we refer to and what pass out definitely was is like a classic are we gonna get that because things move so quickly is there enough time for something to become a classic yeah that's the thing man i think what was the last classic that you think you heard like from the last year what record do you think you've heard that you're like this could be a classic or let's even say last two years can you just pull up like the last this year uh sorry 20 you want to go 2025 yeah let's go 2024 2025 2025 um top uk songs just put that hopefully there'll be a list here that we can have a little look through but yeah i mean i can't even read that man i need glasses zoom in on that yeah is this that's better nah wait hold on i don't know most to these songs

26:07Cal:which is not it's not all UK artists oh yeah

26:10Chip:yeah that's a good point this is gonna be American as well right well there'll be Americans in it yeah that's the thing I feel like like you said just in terms of UK art it's coming like where is it Lola Young Lola Young is killing it that messy that messy song yeah yeah big tune has potential but again propelled through TikTok yo I love a couple Sabrina Carpenter bangers by the way let me just put that out there yeah Espresso she's not British though Yeah we need the British ones here Miles Smith's killing it at the moment Yeah Miles Smith is a G Yeah Seeing that But like just going through here Like where are the British people

26:45Cal:Yeah this is like a Mainly American

26:48Chip:Killer still Oh Mr. Bright's at it I mean There we go There's a classic for you Yeah Ed Sheeran dropped that You saw Fender songs as well Yeah Yeah So as I said There's so many sick like UK artists But the majority of that Biggest song chart that we just saw now They're all American Yeah gray or american yeah have you have you had um so and i love asking musicians this because a lot of time especially someone like you who's been around like you've had songs that you've made you've loved and with an artist yeah do you have any that never went out uh yeah that's maybe you wish wish went out yeah so um i remember one time i was in a um like usher was making an album so it was in New York in Chelsea in some studios called Jungle Studios and like I did a couple verses I heard the song but that never came out so I was a bit guided about that similar with like David Guetta I've been in a couple David Guetta sessions worked on some stuff it never came out yeah it happens yeah I feel like you and a DJ like David Guetta I mean you've worked with a lot of you know yeah yeah Swedish house my favorite Calvin Harris Martin Garrett it's a guaranteed anthem of course so david saw it out man get this record out bro man what happened what's going on why is it that these things don't come out is it i mean i imagine there's probably a hundred different reasons but a lot of time it could just be like quite political like oh we didn't get the clearance on this or it could be a number of reasons like i said clearance but typically when artists are creating their projects they will over produce music so if you're making like let's say 13 14 track project you might end up making 50 records and especially if you're someone like a big dj who has loads of like uh records being sent to them all the time what do you think it is what do you think of that what do you think it is you've got a lot to play with and so when it gets to that refining process you find that like even with my last record like there's loads of records i've got with loads of big artists that haven't even made it onto this project um but sometimes it doesn't maybe fit the theme of the album sometimes like you said it's a clearance thing how do you break like okay if i'm an artist they're like cow like i want you just to quickly jump on this yeah undo it so we do it whatever how do you break that bro this one hasn't this one's not really gonna make the cut yeah because that could just fuck up your whole relationship you're done yeah do they take it

29:11Cal:personally yeah you would you would i would but i mean it's it's it's music it's your job like yeah But you know what? This is why people have like managers and like labels and all that because you could just blame them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

29:24Chip:You know what? The label just keeps... Nah, somebody's going to be watching this and like, that's exactly what you said to me. Yeah, yeah. Just blame them, man. Is there somebody that you'd love to work with that you just haven't had the opportunity to work with yet? It's a really good question. Yeah, there's loads of artists. I like Leo Stay Trill. At the moment, I like Jim Legacy. I like Lola Young, definitely. That would be an incredible... Ed, like me and Ed, we've done like a couple of things. Like I did a freestyle with him like years ago. Yeah. And I just picked him up at the time he was living in, I think Clapham or something like that.

29:58So I picked him up and was in some Bentley and I just did like a pretty wavy freestyle. But we haven't actually made a proper song. That's also another thing. I think I was meant to be on the You Need Me Man I Don't Need You track as well. The remix. But I don't know what was happening at the time. I think I was touring or something like that. so I never got the opportunity to jump on that. But Ed is a legend, man. What he's done in the UK is ridiculous. So always have to say it.

30:21Chip:I mean, I was going to say, I actually had just kind of assumed you had done something with him or sorry, released a song with him because I feel like that just seems really obvious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One day, there's still time. Yeah, he's off the grid. They're kind of off the grid. I was told that the way you get in touch with Ed Sheeran is just by email. That's it, exactly. He doesn't, like, you don't, you don't, you don't what's happening. Just email the guy, man. old school email him you know i love that i think yeah hearing stuff like that is this it this one yeah this is the one yeah yeah the more more stuff like this needs to happen so and something like that did you literally just met it and you just sort it out between you two yeah yeah yeah just literally just called it i've got this freestyle i name drop you in it as well yeah let's just go film it see i love it i love that side of things and i feel like you lose a lot of that now is that not like that that's very similar to old content creation as well with you boys you know it's like

31:13Cal:Like, oh, just turn up at a thing. Oh, we'll just sweat out between us. I didn't know it was very similar to music. 100%. But what people don't know about me is that I actually was, especially within the artists, I was one of the original content creators. Like from like 2009, we're going as far back as that. I had a blog called Milk and Two Sugars because I love tea. Sick. What is this? If you can find it, I don't know if it's still there, but it was like Milk and Two Sugars. It's like your own website? Yeah, milkandtwosugars.wordpress.com. I don't know if it's still there WordPress Yeah remember WordPress So wait Is it the number two or Yeah milk and two sugars .wordpress.com .wordpress.com So what were you posting on this?

31:55Just posting everything My journey Like when I got Yeah there you go Oh my god Yeah I was the original Original man That's why I'm tired now What are you doing now? Are you doing this? Oh content More content I've been doing this for a long time So MTV stuff Yeah JLS Bashy JME G Fresh

32:14Chip:Wow Yeah F64 Yeah you know what We've all been there

32:20Cal:That was my childhood She's right there actually Yeah we've got her on the set Yeah there you go You see We got Megan We've all lived the same life Wait was you posting this yourself though Yeah I was doing it all by myself

32:30Chip:Yeah

32:30Cal:Fair enough

32:31Chip:I love to see stuff like this you know It's just like Yeah oh there's Jamie Yeah Yeah just seeing stuff like that Yeah you were on content creation before Before a lot of people never made the full transition into YouTuber though nah never or streamer when was it that's a new thing now are you guys gonna do that as well it's a lot it's a lot of work feels like it's demanding isn't it you kind of have to dedicate your whole life to that right yeah yeah like Chip actually used to do a lot of it but it was like mainly gaming content but now it's become IRL stuff so like AG like even speed all this sort of stuff just happening the cameraman man.

33:11Chip:And it looks really entertaining, but the only way that I think you can be successful doing that is by, you've got to be doing it every day. There has to be consistency.

33:20Cal:Is it people want to be able to turn up and be like,

33:22Chip:Oh, he's going to be live.

33:23Cal:He's there. I've got something to watch. Yeah. So then is that why you like someone like, um, uh, Kaisen, he'll just be in that one location all the time. I mean, sometimes you'll be doing like marathons and like a few days long and it's just like, fuck, you turn on your stream and he's just still going for days on end. Yeah. He's doing one every day this month. that's pretty sure with all the A &P like he's doing a stream every single day of July

33:43Chip:which is just like like it kind of it is the it is the future he has to do that yeah and it's really cool like seeing artists plug into that even having you here is really cool yeah it's nice to see that this is now being considered you know previously it was okay you go on radio you talk about this and then you might go you know on a TV show and don't get me wrong like they still obviously have their place but it's great to now that I call it mainstream I guess really start to respect the sort of power that the audience that comes from live stream and podcasting all that side of things definitely and I feel like to be fair like a load of the traditional sort of like media platforms like you kind of know what you're going to get right when you go and do an interview it's pretty like scripted and formatted but what I like about this is like you guys are just real guys in it you know what I mean you're into what you're into you like what you like so when I'm here it feels like we're having a lot more of an Authentic conversation Versus Like not all radio shows But like some Do you get what I mean You go in there You kind of know What you're going to do Do you get what I'm saying Yeah You can just chat shit Exactly Yeah Fuck around

34:50Cal:It's like When Fred again And Platt Boy Match Just made that fucking banger Live Victory lap Yeah

34:55Chip:What a tune How crazy is that

34:57Cal:You just see shit like that You should

34:59Chip:What would be sick Is Rigging up I mean Don't get me on This has probably been done before But if there was some level Of consistency to it Is like rigging up A live stream in your studio just going live. So this is the thing, yeah. We've actually just built a sick new studio. So you need to come and see it, actually, and check me out. Come and see it. But basically, we've got this sick new studio. It's got like five amazing studios in there and like a big green screen space and all that kind of stuff. So we have been talking about like putting cameras in and just streaming 24-7. But I think if we did that, I would probably be cancelled in the first 24 hours.

35:37There you go. That's the only thing, but we're working on it. So guys, you heard it here first.

35:42Chip:That would be honestly like stuff like that. And again, I know you said it like you'd be doing this content stuff, but now more than ever, it's like, that's where the power of it is. People want that, don't they? People, people want to see that. So in this new studio, is that where you recorded the new thing? I made the new project. Yeah. And then loads of people have been using it. Like even Jim Legacy, who I'm a big fan of, he came and shot Fava in the studio as well. so yeah I think that was even part of the motivation to start stepping back into the arena of music because I was in there we at first we were doing all the DIY you guys know I love my like buildings and property and all that kind of stuff so got the place did it all up and then naturally as they say build it and they will come loads of artists just started using the space and I'm hearing all this different like music coming out of each room bangers on bangers on bangers and i'm just sitting there like like painting the wall or doing whatever wait i need to get back to my day job what am i doing like this doesn't make no sense so yeah that was definitely some motivation for you a little bit uh not well i guess nervous i mean you haven't released a song in a while a long while yeah so is there a little bit of like not anxiety probably that's not the right word but like you're a little nervous maybe it's excitement about going back into the into the music side of things yeah i think you said it to be honest it's excitement because like the last thing I did, I haven't released any like solo records for a long time, but the last thing I did was about a year and a half ago.

37:08And it was a song called how you samba. That's, and I was featured on the record with like Sophia Reyes and a couple other people. That song went number one in Europe. So when that happened, I was a bit like, okay, this is good. This is a good sign. So I think for me, I'm still kind of just excited. Like I look at my monthly listeners on like all the, like dsps and whatnot and i'm like you know what there's still so many fans out there

37:33Chip:you still have like five million people yeah and considering i haven't released the music in a long time yeah i'm just like you know what i'm so blessed so grateful i owe it to them as well just to keep giving people new music man why not so for me like i said i know that the burn rate of records has changed versus like when i first started out um but i'm just excited to just keep giving fans new music because that's what i do right that's it and so the new one coming out um is a single yeah eat it up 18th of this month so literally oh i actually it'll be out by the time this comes out yeah out now which is which is just so sick um is there uh can you talk to me a little bit just about the tune like yeah yeah yeah so basically um i made the tune with skeptics it also features carla monroe on the track as well and um basically like when i was making the project again i was thinking about nightlife i was thinking about all of the genres of music that have come out of the uk uh drum and bass garage grime all these exciting sounds that have ended up being exported all over the world like i definitely think in terms of soft power that's what the uk has over like most most countries right so i'm looking at all of this and i'm like okay i'm gonna create a project where i'm celebrating all of these sounds that i grew up listening to in all of these different venues right so this one is a drum and bass song everyone will know i put drum and bass on the end of pass out on the end of frisky yeah i mean if you've been watching the call of duty highlight rolls you will know that there's a bit of drum and bass that's the triple headshot yeah yeah yeah so so we went to drum and bass and worked with skeptics on the record and basically eat it up is me just kind of just saying we have the biggest sound so yeah i've been away for a bit but whenever we plug in our sound is the biggest like there's no one that does it like us and that's it that's it so wait you you meant yeah you mentioned there a project is this something a part of something bigger than we'll see if it's part of something yeah but i've got a lot of records sitting there so like uh-huh you know what we're saying about burnout but like burn rate i'm just like okay i need loads of music and i just want to keep on putting out music when it feels like this time like it's the right time to drop a project then how many tunes you reckon you've made and you haven't released i'm probably sitting on about like 80 records yeah 80 strong records like i'm not stopping i've said this to myself now that i'm releasing music again like you can't get rid of me how how do you go about choosing like going

40:01Cal:back through that backlog and just being like you know what this one's ready to go is it basically all down to you or do you know you go around to all your boys everyone be like boys got a couple bangers here which one your record's the best how do you process around yeah so i definitely chat to the mandem and see what they're feeling but then also like for me the way i see it is i'm the creator of the art but it's going to be the public that decide whether they like it or not so obviously that's why social media is really good because you can test out the record so the other day we um put a little snippet of this on tiktok and in a day it got like a million views so when that happened i was like okay cool i feel like we've picked the right tune you're on to something we're on to something here so yeah it'll be a combination of like me loving the record showing my friends and then also like like teasing it to the fans and seeing what they

40:48Chip:thing not so much anymore like i said in my in my prime i was doing a lot a lot of festivals but do you know what blind ranking is no okay so what it is is i'm gonna give you um uh i'm gonna say a name of the festival yeah and you've got a rank it between one and five i believe is it is it five that we've got yeah five but you don't know what's coming next okay but one being what uh one being really good so your fate or yeah your favorite it can should we do this based on your favorite so these are all ones that you've performed at yeah yeah yeah so we'll do it based on like on that which one you enjoyed okay cool let me let me get the let me get the list up now all right so we're gonna blind rank festivals all right let's do it first one wireless oh wireless is a very special festival because it's a london festival and it started uh it was like it started and celebrated urban music like you know what I mean rap music so it's very very special to my heart I've performed at wireless a lot of times but I don't know what's coming next yeah so I'm gonna yeah I'm gonna put wireless at number three alright yeah nice and safe in the middle yeah yeah yeah just so that could work see how the rest of it goes alright let's go with Tea in the Park ooh okay so Tea in the Park they don't do Tea in the Park anymore but that Scottish crowd is legendary and when I did Tea in the Park like the last time I did it I think I wore a kilt sick yeah I think I wore a kilt so that was a special moment they don't do it anymore because of the fact that they don't do it anymore I'm gonna have to put it at number four number four yeah alright okay so we still got one two and five left yeah let's go with V Festival V Festival again they don't do it anymore It was a younger crowd that one But V Festival was fun Where is that?

42:50Chip:That used to be out east Wasn't it? Yeah Essex way Damn Now I would have put Wireless at 2 And put V Festival at 3 But I'm going to put V Fest at 5 Because I don't do it anymore Alright You know what I think there's going to be a little bit of regret But we'll see What have I done? I feel like I've messed up already Tomorrowland Okay Okay cool So Tomorrowland Wow That's one of the biggest festivals in the world If you didn't know It goes on in Belgium I go every year That's the one festival Thank you bro And it's like It's otherworldly isn't it It's so hard to explain To people that just haven't gone I know that sounds like Just the last thing you want to hear But it is The stages The crowds are sick It's unreal It's ridiculous Yeah It's ridiculous I'm gonna put that at because I still need to go and do like a I've done like three sets at Tomorrowland so far but I feel like my big big set is still waiting like it's still yet to come I'm gonna put that at number You got one and two left Oh man I'm gonna put that at number two Alright Alright so you've left one to last And that leaves one Oh you're laughing Oh man I don't even know what it is You know what's crazy is I think I don't know I don't know you might have a different thing but I think you might have smashed it the last one is Glastonbury oh perfect alright cool cool yeah because it's a UK festival it's iconic it's like you know I feel like that festival is bigger than music like Tomorrowland is an incredible festival globally but it's very much music focused where I feel like you know Glastonbury goes into other things I mean we don't need to get into it now but sometimes it's a bit political do you get what I'm saying so for that reason yeah number one I think I did it mate so okay so your top five there is I'm happy with that Glastonbury at the top Tomorrowland Wireless Perfect T in the Park and V Perfect yeah Perfect I actually think you've actually smashed it I smashed it yeah I'm happy with that alright well we're gonna do we're gonna do one more oh shit and this time it's gonna be UK artists okay okay okay cool and again you have no idea so whoever ends up in five don't take it personally here don't take it personally i didn't know yeah all right let's go starting with jamie jamie jamie um jamie's a pioneer for so many reasons like he's an innovator he's a trailblazer um and he stayed independent from the very beginning to now that is like that's dedication he's been the same guy since the first time i met him all the way yeah yeah such a genuine guy yeah there's so many tempting checks to take out there, man.

45:37So for Jamie to have stayed independent the whole time, I've got to respect that guy. I'm going to put him at number three.

45:43Chip:Number three. All right. He's going for the same strategy. Same strategy. All right. Big up, Jamie. Let's go with Dave. Santan Dave. Santan Dave. Okay. So Santan Dave, incredible artist. I feel like he really, like, you know, when someone feels like they've been sent by like a higher power. That's what I feel about Dave. Like he's definitely come with like a great message um and he's his performance where he's on the piano piano yeah that was sick incredible i'm gonna put dave at number two okay yeah david number two central c central c um great artist all these guys i know so i have nothing but good things to say about them central c great guy humble very very talented he's been working hard for a very long time he's actually one of the guys we spoke about breaking the us i feel like he's really giving that he's definitely on a roll yeah yeah yeah it's looking very good so big up cinch i would put cinch at number four number four yeah that's all right we've got dizzy rascal wow okay so dizzy rascal is like my childhood like icon so that's that's the guy that i like grew up on and he's the one that made me believe that like I could rap and become a successful rapper because obviously I was watching him do it, go on tour with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and do all this mad stuff, release his own air full swell with Nike.

47:11He did so much incredible things and I know he's still doing it to this day. I'm going to put Dizzy Rascal in my top five at five. He's going at five. He's going at five. So this is one.

47:22Chip:It's one. Who's this going to be? One of the greatest.

47:29Cal:You're just trying to think of a new name now No, no, no I've got it I know I know

47:34Chip:Genuinely, this is the last person Okay Are you ready? Go on Superstar Let's see Yeah KSI

47:43Cal:Yeah, first You got him at number one, bro That is actually so respectful of you Wow

47:49Chip:Shout out to KSI, man Big up KSI, my brother No, but honestly Honestly, what I will say is KSI, again That's a friend I know you've been calling out KSI a lot. No, he's a great friend of ours. I told him he was in this list. Yeah, I know he is. But the thing that made a big up swear as well. The thing that makes KSI really special actually is I feel like he's done what no other artist has done. He's like a real polymath. Like he's been able to step into loads of arenas and do it incredibly successfully. And the run he had when he had all the American features, he was working with like my top five rapper list.

48:27Like I couldn't believe it. That little way on one record, this guy on another. Rick Ross. Rick Ross. Yeah. Like amazing. So, I mean, yeah, like why not?

48:38Chip:Yeah. Why not Bucket? He's a great example though of how content is, well, we all, you know, one thing that we always say is that content is king because if you can make content about whatever it is, you can be successful in it. You just have to, you have to make content and from there, fans will follow you regardless of where you go. if they're interested in you as a person. Definitely. And then also, I think with my music as well, I've come to learn that there's loads of people that know my records, but they may not necessarily know me as a person. And I think that that's what KSI has been able to do really well.

49:13People are into him. Do you know what I mean? And whatever he wants to do, they'll support him and they'll follow him. And that's very commendable, man. He's a sick guy.

49:21Chip:All right. Well, we've got two final questions for you. All right, cool. And they can be quickfire if you want. But I'd love to know you. I mean, you mentioned Dizzy there being like your icon at the time growing up. Yeah. He inspired you. Do you have a UK goat? Music goat. Wow. For you personally, this isn't like, oh, I think this person would be everybody's goat. But for you, you look up and you go, this is, they are them.

49:48Cal:This is that guy. Him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you know what? I'm going to say UK goat wise I'm going to say it's hard to say one person so I have to say one person you have to say one person absolutely you just got to single them out that's why it's hard yeah this is your dinner with Jay-Z moment wow dinner with Jay-Z wow I wish Jay-Z was from the UK right now that'd be so much easier yeah I'm going to say

50:22I know you're struggling this is tough It is a tough question I wouldn't even know If somebody put me on the spot I actually don't know Okay I'm gonna take it away From rap for this one

50:34Okay Okay I need some help Yeah So between I'm gonna say It's between someone Like Damon Arban Yeah do you know Damon Arban I don't know Okay cool Right cool So he's from Blur Yep But he also made Gorillaz Which I'm sure you guys Oh yes Oh right okay fine So he's just a musical genius Like if you're like a music music person like you'll know Damon Albarn and you'll rate everything he's done he's amazing um but then also I'd put Calvin Harris in there that's such a shout yeah I think Calvin Harris like since the whole like acceptable in the 80s from like I get all the girls all the way to the era with like Rihanna and all of those guys Ellie Golden Calvin like he doesn't disappoint so I would

51:18Chip:say yeah who do you think I would hate that I would have to go Calvin House because that's that's the person i'm more familiar with and i genuinely don't think he's dropped a stinker once all right cool let's go with calvin harris all right calvin harris yeah that's uh that's such a shout you know what's crazy is i don't know why in my head calvin harris i didn't just didn't even he obviously i know he's from scotland he's from the uk but in my head he's so international that it's i just forget i didn't even think that i was thinking yeah i didn't that wouldn't have come to i had I'm like Adele in my mind.

51:49Chip:No, Calvin Harris is a goat, man. Yeah, he actually is. And then the last one, and you really champion British music in general. Is there a British artist that you see up and coming that you would like more people to listen to? Just as an example, my... I like Olivia Dean. Yeah, Olivia Dean's sick, man. She's sick. You know, she's Asha D's cousin, Ashley Waters' cousin. Really? Yeah, well, that's what I heard. Oh my God, no. Sorry if you guys are not related, but this is what I heard from the grapevine. But yeah, she's very sick. But I'm going to say the person that you should check out and listen to more is Jim Legacy.

52:26The person? Very wavy. Yeah, very wavy. What sort of music? Like, what's the genre? Do you know what? I'd say it's like, I don't want to, it's in that sort of like UK underground, like black music space, but he's singing. He's doing a little bit of rapping. Like he's got a song called Stick, which is really sick that you need to listen to. Father's amazing. he produced a bit on the Central C record I think he did some vocals on Sprinter as well he's so sick

52:52Chip:it's been an absolute pleasure having you on we could have spoken for plenty more very grateful for you making the time any time for you brother and of course your single's out 18th it's now go and listen to it now and then hopefully there's more to come yeah oh definitely there is 100 amazing look thank you very much having you on guys if you haven't already then make sure you subscribe give us a rating five stars all that good stuff all of that all of that and we'll catch you guys in a bit peace