S15E07 - We're Better Than People Think

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0:58boys there's nothing better there's no greater way to start a football season before it's even started in bitter disappointment that's what we are it's what we like all right i know people are frustrated i've seen a few comments on twitter people complaining about bottling it and all that shit but mate this is winning that game would have been stupid it would have been nothing like what we expected and lo and behold come i'd say 78 minutes i'll start again maybe there we go maybe we just might hold on to this i'm joined by felonious filth how you doing mate all good all good and Seb Martin who uh some people a lot of people may know as uh does Seb on football on TikTok but also got a YouTube channel as well uh called Seb Martin and uh knows a lot about spurs and tactics and that in fact I was standing in front of Seb Ben and Kish yesterday at the social it was quality quality night actually had a really good time yeah really good and it was like having a brick wall of men three of the biggest men i've ever seen in my life and everyone knows i've got a penchant for big men nothing like that but like everyone knows about the big man army i'm building and i think if you're willing i've got three new recruits oh mate we'll be there romero van de venendanso back three that's quality it was um mate uh let's start seb with your overall take-homes because I mean been a few mixed a bit of a mixed response to it I know how I feel people probably have been listening to the podcast for a long time know what direction I'm going to go in but how did you feel about it all?

2:33I thought it was I thought it was good it was one of those where it's it's a painful way to lose the game and after like right after the game I was obviously disappointed but I think the overall take-home in terms of going into a season the type of performance you know first competitive game under Thomas Frank I was I was really pleased with it especially first 75 minutes before we sort of went back into our shed a little bit for the last 15. I thought we were great. The back five works really well. We weren't as negative as I thought that we were going to be when I saw the lineup when it first came out.

3:01We had a lot of chances. Set pieces was lovely to look dangerous from. Long throwings are now a thing at Spurs apparently. So that's exciting. But yeah, I was really happy. They're really, really happy. My favourite beat was every single time it went out and Danso picked it up. It was like, yeah. Unbelievable. It seems such a simple thing that we've just never done in the history of our football club. It's become a weapon. And it ain't even like a Rory de Lapp missile. It's a very lofted throw-in. And we all know about the throw-in competition they had. And Danso inevitably won, as we all assumed.

3:36But we caused real big problems for me. It wasn't just a throw-in. It was the tactical plan going into that set piece. And every set piece you look dangerous at. Yeah. It was one of those where like Thomas Frank's spoken about so much about the marginal gains that he's so big on. And that's just part of it. Like if there's any way that we can have a sort of marginal gain in our game or an area where we can really hurt teams, then that's going to be it. And if you're playing a big team, especially away from home or like a PSG, getting a throw in or a corner now is going to be really, really exciting in those games.

4:07Whereas before it felt like we weren't really a threat from set pieces. So, mate, I'm loving it. I'm all there for Thomas Frank's throw-ins, corners, whatever's next. It's unbelievable. Do you know what? I was going to do some sort of play on words about Tottenham and Stoke, but I'm not even going to do that. It's just sensible stuff. T, what did you make of the whole evening? It was a rollercoaster, man. But the set of pieces was a sight to behold because it's something that kind of goes against the Tottenham way, so to speak. But we owned it, man. We owned it from the beginning in anticipation when Danzo got the throw-ins.

4:48But the first half was just perfect, really. They went to the lap and I thought, oh, my God, it made them mad. But they had nothing. For the first hour, they just had nothing. And I think we'd given so much in that first hour that it starts to tell in the final third of the game, I'd say. We have a strong XI. and I mean maybe I don't really agree with the subs he made but it was a nice night I was seeing I guess we're seeing what was the art of the possible with this Tottenham team yeah I mean that was it I mean what we were all expecting when we saw the lineup but even before the lineup came out especially with no 10 recognizable 10 we all just thought this is going to be a part of the bus low block counter kind of display and everyone was ready for it we were happy to see that because PSG are PSG regardless if they've had three weeks rest and you'd argue that probably did them a service some might say it didn't a disservice but did them a service because three weeks ago they were in the final of the club world cup these players are sharp still it's not like they've just the drop-off is so dramatic that suddenly we could take them lightly so when it started and we're like the first five minutes you're like we're pressing them right fresh legs press them maybe put them on the back foot a little bit oh we weren't expecting this 10 minutes in same 15 minutes in the same 45 minutes in we were pressing them push them back and i'm kind of thinking like what what we've what what we've been told and i think what we've been telling ourselves is that frank's way of dealing with big six big a big six side or a big club like anyone could really hurt us would be paying like a you know a back five wing backs and soak up the pressure and try and get at him on the counter with the speed of Kudus and that sort of thing.

6:39But what we actually saw was something, the direct opposite. It was like we went on the front foot. We're defending from the front line and it just goes to show, you know, and a lot has been made of Frank's sort of ability to adapt. He's adapting in a way that's even surprised us, surprised everyone, I think. No one expected that first half, sir. Yeah, I think he's done well in that game to sort of dispel the narrative that it's just going to be negative, boring football, back fives under Thomas Frank. Because the thing is, back five doesn't necessarily mean boring football. You know, it's just an extra centre-half.

7:10You can have really attacking wing-backs. I thought Spence and Porro, you know, really pushed forward, pushed onto PSG's full-backs at times yesterday, which was great to see. I thought Pat Matassar was unbelievable carrying that ball. So good. Kudus as well. I mean, I genuinely think Kudus has like a ridiculous ceiling. I think you're seeing that in this pre-season so far against PSG yesterday. But yeah, I mean, even Richarlison, I thought looked brilliant. We didn't really miss Solanke yesterday. His hold-up play was excellent. It was so nice to see us use a lot of different attacking weapons.

7:40And like you said, cause PSG to lose the ball in their own half, turn the ball over, higher up the pitch, put pressure on them. And hopefully that's a big sign of things to come against those top sides because we've got the quality to... We're never going to be a team that sits inside our own box and camps out against those bigger sides because we got too much quality to do that, I think. And if we can sort of have that nice blend of sitting in a bit of a lower block, choosing our moments, but also choosing our moments to press onto teams, I think that's what people are going to get excited about, Frank, when the season starts because we're going to really show a lot of different ways that we can play and hurt different teams, which I think is super exciting.

8:17I've enjoyed the reaction to the game. Inevitably, you're going to get these people that are, you know, throwing around the fact that we bottled a league and you know it happens in football all the time especially playing teams as good as them and this wasn't like a week and barring Dunnarumma who's a big loss and probably would have definitely saved Romero's header this was still an excellent PSG side who tore up Europe and the fact that we were able to not only be competitive but better them and and Luis Enrique afterwards said that you know we did Tottenham deserve to win that game it shows i think it put a lot of people on notice a little bit like they we've been dismissed as a team that won't be able to compete in the premier league with the hangover revenge ball it is still going to be an issue and opta statistically i think he put us 14th in the league it might be 14th it might be 11 i can't remember i think it was 14th and just like i think people are underrating us and that this that display really like i was talking about the reaction it showed i think people were surprised there was a couple of like chelsea tiktok accounts i don't know if they're sometimes with tiktok and you'll know better than me except that there's people here that go that they go out their way to praise other teams because the fans of those teams like it they get big numbers it's like grifting i think it's called yeah yeah um but but whatever they were saying even if they were doing it was was true in the fact that Spurs are going to be difficult to beat for absolutely everybody as well as having some of that star power going forward I want to talk about the performance of Richarlison and Sarr especially T what what did you like about them because I think Richarlison's performance was his best ever in a Spurs shirt probably well that's quite a big shout but um can't think of another I think with Richarlison what you're going to get with him is a lot of energy and I think whenever I speak about Richarlison there's always going to be a a bit patronising because what he makes up for in skill and grace, he just gets himself about.

10:16It doesn't give the defenders a moment space. And I think in a... Thomas Frank, I mean, a lot was made about Ange, you know, pressing the ball. But I think this pressing was anything, it's better than anything that Ange did in his time, I suppose. But yeah. Now I thought Richarlison was impressive. The early shot he had, he looked sharp. I mean, he's been rumoured to be one of the people leaving, but I wouldn't have guessed by his performance. I like him a lot. And if he can stay fit, then he can be a very useful part of our squad. He's got to stay fit because his fitness record was terrible. But if he can put on a shift like that, then I think we'll look good this season.

10:49And that's for Saar. I think he just needs to make a position his own. I was saying last night, it feels like he's deployed kind of all over the place. And within the game, you need that fluency. You're not going to be like in one position for another game. The game changes, you move up or back or whatever. But I feel that he's got a massive future. He's got a high ceiling. we just need to utilise him in the best possible way because even in the Europa League final, it was almost a bit like a 10. I mean, even the way Richie played a role in us getting the winner. And last night, it was just everywhere.

11:21And I just hope that this is a springboard because there's always like a 10-game burst where Salah looks great and then he drops off. Then he's great, then he drops off. I think last season he scored against City in the League Cup. And around that time, he was getting forward, getting goals getting good shots on goal and then he kind of fell off a bit so I just need him to just keep that up for an entire season I'd say perhaps that's about his development and about him like knowing his best best positions I think he's he's such a he's just a utility man to use an archaic expression he just he can play anywhere pretty much in that midfield role we've got to bear in mind as well he's had about four managers as well hasn't he yeah so he's been for a lot in his young career.

12:07That's best. What did you like about both of their performances? What did you like about what they did and how effective they were? Honestly, everything. Especially with Pap Sarr. I think he's been our best player this pre-season. And yeah, what you said, T, I think the thing that's great about having a player like him in your squad is you can probably play him in three or four different positions and get a similar level from him because he's so good at so many different things. And that's a great weapon to have in his squad. And I think you'll see, he'll probably play, against those bigger sides in the 10 quite a lot.

12:37And I think maybe against smaller sides when we have a lot more of the ball, then he'll probably play a little bit deeper maybe in the pivot. But I think that's going to be a consistent thing with Thomas Frank is that the way that he platforms his players to get the best out of them wherever they play on the pitch really is just one of his biggest strengths as a coach. And I think that's what you saw with Pap Sarr. And yesterday, I mean, he was everywhere. Every time one of those PSG midfielders got the ball, he was no more than two yards away from them at any time. Interceptions, like his reading of the game, was top, the way he used the ball was top as well.

13:08And Richarlison was just, I think Richarlison is one of those players where when he's lacking physically, you notice it with him so much more because it's what his game is kind of all about and has always kind of been all about is, you know, that intensity, his press off the ball when he's got the ball, you know, harrying players. And when he's not on that, like he hasn't been at Spurs for the last, what, two, two and a half years because of those injuries, it's just refreshing seeing with a full pre-season under his belt and looking like he's building that a little bit. and if he can stay fit, he's a really decent backup striker.

13:39I've been saying this summer that I think it was probably time to move on just because that injury record has never really improved in those two years and it's one of those where you probably can't rely on him and we'll probably be talking about him again at some point over the next couple of months about injuries and we should assign someone this summer. But if you get this kind of Richarlison, then he's honestly a really, really useful player and I think he showed that last night, hold up play, getting his shots off quickly, which was good and yeah, very positive performance from both of them.

14:05Mate, great shot in the first half. I can't remember how it was laid off to him, but he just hit a deflection to be fair, but made the keeper make an excellent state. And I was like, I haven't seen that before. I don't know if he's, his striking ability is decent, probably underrated to be fair. It's just that he just so rarely gets in a position where he can get a shot off. But it was more than that. It was his, I think if he would have had a really poor game, it would have affected everybody because when he was hit with a ball, he just managed to keep hold of it yeah drop a shoulder lose his man and lay it off and i'm going to talk about pauline and kudos especially because i think i've fallen in love already to be honest but the but but richarlison was massive he was linking up well he wasn't he's been economical with the ball all the things he's usually not like the ball he's so bored of seeing the ball bounce off his shin or his knee yeah and that's to do with matt sharpness it's to do returning from injury and all those things but that performance i run my old man who absolutely despises richarlison and it's probably where i get it from to be honest but and the first thing he said he couldn't stop talking about richarlison's display and maybe because the bar's so low and we've got we expect nothing that when he has a six out of ten we think it's a nine out of ten but legitimately i think it was his best display yesterday and yeah i just echo everything you said about Saar now the two signings Kudus and Palina obviously Palina's first proper game Kudus has played a few pre-season games but this is this was competitive and played at a level where you could kind of see what we might expect for them I just it was so noticeable when those two players went off and that's not to be critical of the players that come on although it shows is perhaps a lack of squad depth to some degree.

15:53And that's why signing, I want to talk to you about signings in a minute. But the performances of both of them were just sensational because Paulinho just destroys, he breaks up and he can play football as well. The myth that he can't play football is a nonsense, but certainly his best attribute is breaking up, play and destroy. And the team's not going to like playing against him. And if he can, I mean, it's crucial that we keep him fit throughout the season, but I just loved his performance and kudos kudos was he did the opposite of what i thought was his best part of his game and the ball was played into him he held it up and brought the team in and with a playing a side like psg who's going to press you and any team really with ambition in and money in the premier league and impress you having an outlet like him was just it was just i just felt comfortable every time he got the ball even when he was in tight spaces he just found space and it reminded me when he when he takes the ball with his back to goal and the defender up against him a lot of what we saw with Dembele perhaps not as poetic as the way Dembele does it but effective in the same same fashion again it's one game and that's a big statement to make but I love both of their roles what did you make of their performances T?

17:08I thought they were great and what you've got to think about as well that this comes off the back of us getting hammered by Bayern Munich and that game feels like years ago because after that game I thought, what are we going to see next season? That was an absolute toasting and it feels like this game was a bit of a reaction to that. Did you hear what Frank said? Sorry to cut you. Frank said that you'd been working on this plan for PSG since the Bayern game. Well, you know, that's impressive that he can come up with a game plan like that. I mean, what was the quote at the end? I think Ben shared with us that it's an operation but the patient died it's still a successful operation sort of thing so this is probably how you describe the game but I was impressed with Bentoncourt to be fair he's someone who's had a lot of ups and downs at Spurs there's a lot of I mean I think the I think before the 22 World Cup god that's so long ago he was amazing in that time I think the last game was we beat Leeds at home and he was just everywhere in that game and last night the little shades of that play he was just he was in front of the defence, he was supporting the strikers hopefully we can see a return to that form for Bentoncourt as well because he's someone who's kind of been the odd man out and I think Basoum is in discipline, it's kind of opens things up for Bentoncourt a lot and it seemed like a good partnership as well, Pelinho and Bentoncourt as well, I've got to say that too but Kudis was surprising for me because I just thought he'd just be hugging the touchline I mean, obviously in a four fight, obviously a three at the back, he's going to be required to be more inside.

18:45But he's got a low centre of gravity. It's hard to get the ball off him. He can play facing their goal or if it's back to goal. There's a lot of versatility. And I think he's another one who'd probably be changing positions throughout games, I reckon. But you said, what do you make of it? Yeah, 100 % agree. I mean, Kiddos is like, I've said it. I don't really want to go too big on him because it's early on. We've not even kicked off the season yet. But I genuinely think he's got like superstar potential with like, the attributes he's got. I mean, he was bullying Nuno Mendes, who arguably has been the best left back in the world over the past year or so.

19:18Like physical strength, running him behind when he's got the ball at his feet. Like you said, he just never seems like he's going to lose it no matter how many men he's got on him. And, you know, he's going to be so versatile for us. I think it's going to be really interesting to see where he plays on Saturday, if he plays in the 10, because obviously I doubt we'll play the midfield three that we did on yesterday against PSG, against Burnley. So it'd be interesting to see him in that sort of position. But yeah, he was amazing. I think he'll go down. After this season, we're talking about him being one of the best signing Spurs have made in recent years, I think.

19:48At least since the Pochettino days. And I mean, amazing. Bayern, Premier League, proven quality actually does improve your start in XI. Who'd have thought it? Paulina as well, yeah. I mean, I was quite surprised at Paulina's performance, actually. In my predicted XI, I said that he probably shouldn't play just because I thought he looked so off the pace against Bayern. and I thought because he hadn't played that much football, maybe Bentancourt, Bergwijn, Saar would be a better option because they're fresher, but he absolutely proved me wrong. I mean, Desiree Dwayne is somebody who I've seen, you know, he's torn Liverpool apart, Villa, so many teams in the Champions League this season, one of the best players in the world.

20:23Jaapalinho didn't let him have a sniff. He followed him around the pitch, was unbelievable. You know, such a big physical presence, like you said, one of the best out-of-possession players in the league and he proved all of that yesterday. And I thought, like you said, T, it was really nice to see him and Ben Tanker looking like a solid duo in that pivot and playing really nicely together dovetailing nicely in those areas so yeah but I mean both of those signings so far are looking like successes definitely and at the very least will add a lot to this squad in certain game states this season. When you look at the statistics for Palina's display they don't look that impressive like and this is why people have based their entire football opinion on some numbers on a fucking website that he won like 50 of his tackles according to this website i'm reading right now um and he was dribbled past twice and zero dribble success and obviously that's not his game he had around 69 pass completion against psg pressing the you're and a player of his style is going to struggle probably to complete passes to anything where and if it near where he usually be able to against say what he might do on Burnley against Burnley if he plays it's what you said about tracking about being in the right space at the right time making it difficult for players to turn and being aggressive in that none of that stuff shows up in statistics and that's what that's why whenever I watched him whenever the ball went near him he caused problems there were a couple of times where it went past him again you're playing against world class players it's gonna happen they're incredible at one-on-one so yeah I just I thought it was a great signing when he started.

22:01Time may tell whether or not it is, but I'm excited about it. What I think the conversation we had at the social, and thank you to everybody who come, by the way, because it was a great night and everyone had a good time. The last 10 minutes of the game was painful, but generally it was a really good mood in there. So thanks everyone for coming. But the conversation that was having, that a lot of people had after the game was we need more bodies in more quality signings and it's such an obvious thing to say but the drop-off from when that first 11 came out and the players came in and they're cold coming in and there might be reason for why but we just do need a couple of players probably in the shape of Eze and Savinho that would probably put us in a situation where we could be quite hopeful of what next season might hold it's crucial isn't it T that we bring in at least one at least Eza but if we can both those players Yeah I mean you know my frustrations with Levy and Enoch we've wanted Eze for the last two summers now and we're in August 48 hours before we play Burnley and we're still kind of you know playing with our dicks at the table here you know we need to just should have just got in there sooner.

23:24Having said that, it's a positive that, you know, we're at a decent stage with Eze and Savino. We do need the pair of them. I would rather, Frank, have not bought Telon last night. That wouldn't have been my choice. But we definitely need more bodies. And I think if we are going to persevere three at the back, then we definitely could maybe do another centre-back or at the very least, just don't let Voskovic go. I'm not sure Voskovic is maybe ready to start loads of Premier League games, but the fact that he's there in the background learning from three very good centre-backs to Red F and that's probably a good space for him.

24:00But yeah, the transfer window hasn't been the greatest but I think Savino and Eze will just boost everybody really because I kind of thought we don't really need many more wingers but I think after last night's game we probably realised that there are gaps in the squad. Obviously, everybody remember the Roma pre-season game we beat them 5-0 at home. And we went to the season of all the optimism and then ended up getting two points to make games. So sometimes you probably learn more in these situations where you see where your weaknesses are and you go into the game, you go to the season of no illusions of, you know, the slog ahead.

24:39Seb, I don't know if you were being like, I don't know what you was trying to get at last night, right, when I turned around and you said to me, you look nervous. and I'm like yeah we I we I what happened I've seen a million times yeah was you saying it because you were believed we'd win at that point like you were convinced would you or was you just like having a go what minute was this I reckon 74 something like that I was at that point yeah at that point I think I would have been really confident I don't know it was one of those where I couldn't really work out how I felt about the game at that point so I was like we're going to win it and I'm buzzing sort of how do we react to this do we celebrate like it's another Europa League or are we still nervous because it's Tottenham but yeah I was I was quite confident at that point I was I was gutted that we threw it away to be fair but and like you said T a couple of the subs didn't come on and really have the impact that we were hoping for but you know I think up until that you know as well PSG's two goals I don't think they were mistakes from us I think they were you know moments of brilliance from PSG and I think at that point yeah maybe maybe it's because i because ben was telling me before the game ben bowman i'm sure everyone knows him um oh yes he was he was telling me before the game he was like i'm not nervous at all i don't you know it's one of those it's a win-win situation like if we win it then it's great we can count as a european trophy if not who cares it's a glorified community shield so i think he affected my mentality a little bit on that but i think i was nervous at that point i I think I was confident.

26:13We all thought like that, didn't we? Yeah. It was like, no one cares about this game. The amount of conversations people come up to you going, don't matter, does it? Don't matter. I don't feel anything about this game. No, no, no, I don't. And we went 1-0 up and I'm like, oh, maybe I do. And then we went 2-0 up and I'm like, I definitely care about this game. Please don't fuck this up, Tottenham. Don't fuck it up for me again. I can't take it. If you fucking do this again to me, I just can't take it. And then I went for a piss because I was so nervous. and Spooky was with us and sat down, went for a walk.

26:41He just couldn't watch it. And I thought, if I go for a piss next door, I'll have escaped at least two minutes of this hell. Didn't you miss the goal? Right. So I came back down and I was continuing watching. He'd go, what time is it? 86. And it came up and it was like 2-1. I went, they scored. John turned around me, where the fuck were you? So he just faced me going for a piss. they'd scored restarted and the game was playing like I didn't even wouldn't even know it had stopped the reason why I'm asking that is because T mentioned that 5-0 win against Roma and you might not remember this Seb you might remember the game but you remember the time where we would call this Spurs were so shit back then right we'd call this the glamour friendly because we'd have one of these teams that were in Europe that would come and play we had Fiorentina we had Roma by munich once and these teams would come over and we go wow we get to watch some of europeans elite let's go to the glamour friend we just beat in roma 5-0 now it's like fucking hell it was just how far we've come when you look at stuff like that you just realize how far we've come the one thing i wanted to really say was um i think at the end of the game i was like i'd rather we'd have just lost 4-0 than lose that way um now i've calmed down i realized that no it's actually even though it fucking hurt it's probably a positive you know we've seen what we've seen what's possible from Spurs we've seen our shortcomings all in the space of 90 minutes so it's probably I mean if it I'm not I'm one of these people I don't advocate extra time I don't see a point of it and last I'd probably a good example of just not fucking about the extra half hour just get it over and done with get rid of extra time just get rid of it I think maybe in finals in finals only other than that fuck it off I can't think of a single extra time game where I'd say that the World Cup final 2022 World Cup final 2022 yeah there's exceptions to the rule but generally the quality of football just drops in extra time and everyone's looking for pens and you know it's just I completely agree I'm not bothered about the quality of the game I just can't take another 30 there's no chance I wanted to sit around watching another 30 minutes of PSG fucking pillage us that would have been horrible that would have been like Drago versus Creed yeah yeah we were lucky at that point they didn't go to extra time because we were looking a bit shaky i think we were happy to take pens but drawn drawn out weren't they do you remember at the end of the game everyone in the bar was scrabbling around trying to figure out whether there's penalties or extra time everyone's going please just penalties please yeah david alfie ward on chat gpt asking if there's penalties in the supercut no one knew i was looking around like how could no one fucking i didn't know either but i was looking around for someone just go it's penalties and I could relax and uh you know penalties is a lottery you got to remember we didn't lose that game if we went to extra time we would have lost that game but it didn't you got knocked out on penalties penalties are more or less a 50 50 you'd say yeah and you know we had a uh Mattis Tell who who missed the penalty and has received fucking horrendous abuse big shock horror that fucking football fans are cretins who knew you know forgetting the van der Ven also missed the penalty.

29:58You bet he didn't get fucking people digging him out on social media. You've got clubs releasing a statement saying, you know, racist abuse will never be tolerated. Like, what goes for your fucking mind if you're tweeting a 19-year-old player who plays for your football club, who agreed to sign when we finished 17th in the league and had no manager? He bought into the football club and he went on the pitch to do his best and he missed the penalty. do you reckon PSG fans are fucking digging out Vitinha right now he missed the penalty in the exact same fashion yeah the saddest part is as well as soon as he missed I knew it was going to happen like me and Ben turned to each other we were like oh god like you know what's coming now because you just like it's the sad state of sort of football fandom these days with social media the same wankers will be celebrating when he gets a brace in an important game this year exactly if you don't like him as a player that's fine that's an opinion digging him out being racist and just destroying him for his own social media accounts.

30:58And he sees it. Like, don't think he doesn't see it. Unless he's got someone managing an account. I hope he does. And no 19-year-old kid playing at a level he's playing at should probably manage his own social media. But if you cannot handle a bit of disappointment so that you reach out to a child, look at your 19-year-old son or daughter. Look how young they are. That is Mattis Tell. And you're ripping him apart limb from limb because of the way he looks because he missed the fucking penalty, you creatures. You should be ashamed of yourself, you're fucking scumbags, a lot of you. Anyway, he should have scored.

31:34I mean, he sat the keeper down as well. But I tell you what, that Solanke penalty, fucking hell. I mean, when he stepped up, I thought, it's a bit scary when your own player sits down the keeper and rolls it in the other corner. But it was absolutely Brexit, and I fucking loved it. I didn't see that coming at all. just take it it was no Brexit is in taking a 10 feet run up and well in it that's to me is what a penalty should be that's a good old-fashioned penalty if you miss if this fucking stuff and I'm not really sounding like an old gammon bloke now I hate it as well I hate it the stuttered run up like what you and they know they know how to do you think we can tell them how to take a penalty maybe we can I'm sure they've gone through the coaching and this stuttered run up seems to I don't know if it's effective or not i i don't think the success rate of penalties has gone up recently no but there's more footage now there's more data now so that's probably why they why they do it just to kind of but i hate more than that tea is dom solanke's run up it's like i like it i give yourself a chance but obviously he knows what he's doing it's for my nerves it's fucking absolute it's just mayhem really yeah yeah yeah it's funny because he's actually got a great record for us but i still don't have that much confidence in him when he steps up it's funny because I don't think he's missed one for us.

32:52And I think he scored Frankfurt away, didn't he, in the quarterfinal second leg. Like, he scored some big goals for us from the penalty spot. But I still, I kind of agree with you. Like, all these run-ups these days, Eze in the FA Cup final missed his after doing that. I mean, his is so slow. He doesn't even run in his run-up. He walks. And yeah, I agree with you. I'm all for an old-fashioned run-up. Just smash it in, Harry Kane style. I didn't see this at the time, but did you see that Don was there at half time with Langer? Was he? Did he have his white headphones on? Yeah, yeah. Did he have his white headphones in?

33:28I think so. I think he had them in pre-game in the photo I saw. Were they wired? The wired ones? Yeah, he loves the wired. He doesn't do AirPods. Security reasons, apparently. You see, it's like... Did you just make that up? No, I don't know. It's probably nothing to do with the Bluetooth. No one can hack him if they're wired. There's no other reason, surely. Why has he got wired? Yeah. He's just old. Just fucking old. He can't be arsed with some newfangled Bluetooth stuff.

33:54That's a good thing, isn't it? I have no issues with him being involved in it running the football, being involved in helping run the football club and especially the kind of recruitment side of things. Like, I don't know how his personality is going to marry you with Langers, but fuck them. They get paid enough money. Just get on with it. I've never spoken to you about this, Seb. What do you think of him? Do you want him around the football club? I think... He's a football criminal. Yeah. I don't really... I don't see the... So a lot of Spurs fans kind of hold him up in this godlike status. And I don't really...

34:28I don't really get that. I think he had some good moments. Like the Kuluzewski and the Benzanko double swoop in January. That January 2021, was it we saw on them? Yeah. I feel like that did his reputation a lot of good. Or 2022, actually, I think that was. And those two, because they were kind of instant hits, they were really, really good signings. but he did also have a couple of stinkers. I like him. I actually think him and Lange could marry up sort of what they're both good at quite well. I think Paratici in terms of his relationship with the Serie A, there's a lot of talent in that league and Lange clearly has an eye for spotting sort of those youth players.

35:03He's brought through like Bergval, Archie Gray, those sort of players. So I think if they can sort of work together and Lange covers maybe the youth side of things a little bit more and Paratici goes for sort of maybe, I don't know if we're looking across you know leagues in Europe he might have a better relationship with clubs there because he's been in and around the game so long and yeah I think with Paratici though the main thing when he was head of recruitment was you got so many different links to so many different players and never actually came to anything because he liked to line up a whole load of deals and then sort of pull the trigger on one that was what was reported kind of his style whereas Lange is much more the sort of work in silent stuff and you only really get reports when it's quite concrete which I prefer just from a mental point of view just because you know if you get excited about a player and it's like okay that wasn't actually anything and we had that a lot under Paratici but yeah I think them working together could could hopefully hopefully be decent they sort of marry up well.