S15E34 - Man For Man In Paris, A Way Out For Frank

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2:01All over my body, you sexy little slag. Have you ever... I'm joined, once again, by John Bass and Flonius Filth. How you doing, boys? All good. All right. All good.

2:16I don't know if you've ever... I don't know if you feel about this game last night like I do, where we've conceded five goals, but come away from it feeling a little bit more optimistic than I did before I saw those five goals go in. Is that fair, John? Well, yeah, because we also scored some goals. We had some XG. People love XG. We had some XG for that. Was it 2.8? 2.8, mate. 2.8. That's 2.8. Put out your pipe and smoke it. That's 2.8 more XG than we've had in the last two games. So we'll take it. 12 games, probably. Probably. So, yes. So, yeah, there was a lot of talk after the scum game that Frank doesn't get what Tottenham is all about in terms of the way that we see football being played and being more exciting and expansive and attacking and that's the way that we want the game to be played.

3:07And this was a little taste of what that could be like. It was just a bit more forward thinking. It was a bit more exciting. Even though we lost the game, we did get to see some goals and some of the goals were quite nice. So it's just a slight glimmer of hope. So I definitely feel, weirdly, feel better even though we've conceded five about that because it does feel like it's more in keeping with what we're trying to do. And I don't think that people necessarily expect us to win every game. And I don't think people expect us to just automatically be top sides all the time. But if you're going to go out, at least go out like this, where there's something to cling on to.

3:43There's some fun to be had. It's like being kept up in a dungeon for about 12 years, being buggered daily. And then you escape and you walk down the street for 10 minutes where you're not being buggered and you think, thank Christ for that. Because that's how I felt about our Spurs press last night. Thank Christ for that. No longer getting buggered by everybody. I want to talk more about the man-for-man press and where that came from and what we might be capable of and why it hasn't been employed recently. But, Philonius Phil, how did you feel about losing but almost winning 5-3 away from home?

4:26Well, I think it's good to lose a game trying to win than losing trying to not lose, you know. That's how the game felt like. I mean, Vitina's hat-trick was probably one of the best hat-tricks I've seen against Spurs. It's been so ironic that it's two hat-tricks against us in a row. Yeah, well, which one hurt more? I have a wild guess. They were both pretty fucking decent, to be fair. Yeah, but I don't know. It feels like, I don't know if you remember the scene in Austin Powers and he's just reversing backwards or forwards in that tight space. It feels like our season a little bit. It's like we had a game on Sunday, yesterday.

5:05We're still a battering, but a little bit more optimistic. We're walking on the streets after being buggered for 12 years and hopefully Fulham is us walking another mile down that street without being recaptured. Yeah, he's still on the lookout, for sure. He doesn't like the fact we've got out of the basement. He's on, he's on, you know, he's definitely mooching around, just checking if we're lacking at all. Just like hunting. And that's the thing. If we're lacking, like, and that's the thing is like, I was watching the game, right? And I was thinking that certainly in that first half where, and Thomas Frank mentioned it as well, about how going man for man, pressing man for man, being aggressive with it.

5:44And I'm like, well, that's exactly the kind of football we want to see. I don't want us to concede five every game. And there's a conversation to be had about the quality of the goals they scored and in another game would they have got five they might got two you know the penalty I mean it was probably I mean I had no issue with it really the ball might have been going in and the arm stopped it you know you're playing against probably arguably at least arguably the best midfielder in the world for the last 24 months certainly last 18 months so things are going to happen in that game but what I loved about about the uh first half was it was a complete reaction to the inability to do anything against Arsenal PSG arguably are not a better team than Arsenal or they're they're comparable rather what I'm saying what I meant to say was Arsenal are not a better team than PSG but there's there is there is a comparison and no doubt those two sides will meet at some stage in the Champions League this season and we'll find out who's the better but what I saw, it wasn't about necessarily winning yesterday, I know you want to win every game, but it wasn't necessarily about winning yesterday, it was about showing that we're capable of doing something other than not being interested in attacking, which is what it's felt like for parts of this season and where this frustration that we talked about on the podcast on Monday after the Arsenal game, where this comes from and why people are frustrated and why 40 % want Frank out already is the fact that it's inability to not be passive.

7:18And yesterday we were anything but passive. And I was really encouraged. And I kept saying to my old man, in what world would we not do this against Fulham? If Fulham is prowling the streets looking for us to bugger us again, we need to come back with a chiv, something to stop it from happening because we don't want to go back down to the basement again. No one wants to be in that fucking basement. And so the way you get out of that basement is have a chiv. And what we had last night was a chiv. We pressed them. We made it difficult and we caused them to make mistakes. And this is, again, one of the best.

7:57That Nunes-Fertinho midfield, you could argue is the best in Europe. And we were able to get at them. And you'd never do that for 90 minutes, but we were able to get at them. so imagine what we were doing if we were up against the midfield of Fulham's surely they're going to create or play themselves into mistakes and we can create opportunities like we did yesterday so that's what we want to see that's what we saw when we played PSG John in the Super Cup we saw that so why can't we apply that mentality which was definitely there yesterday in the Premier League I don't understand why that can't be our base tactic in the short term because I think it might save Thomas Frank if he does it.

8:39Well, this was one of the reasons why when we appointed Frank, I was kind of hopeful that he would be successful because everything that we heard about him is that he was like pragmatic, but not as in a defensive coach, but as in he would do what was best with the players that he had or with the squad that he had given the circumstances and would adapt for certain performances, including being more attacking when the time suited and accommodating a system that utilizes the best attacking talent that we have available. I guess where I've been disappointed and where maybe this game shows us a path forward and hopefully gives him the confidence to be more progressive is he's been more stubborn than I thought he would be.

9:21I thought he would be more adaptable and look to be a bit more creative and expansive with the way that we're playing. And he hasn't been. He's pretty much gone the other way. So I do hope that this is now a chance for him to look at it and go, okay like there is actually the capability for us to cause teams problems playing this this way and being more front foot and more aggressive I also think there's an element of like the selection as well there's a little bit more youth in that side which again if you're looking at you know trying to be if you're a manager and you come into a squad you what you tend to go to the more experienced players it happens all the time when teams are in relegation battles right they're bringing an old pro to kind of settle the ship I think we've got the sort of reverse problem I think like we almost need to freshen it up a little bit and we have got a lot of talented youngsters who haven't really been getting a lot of minutes i'm thinking about the midfield particularly right grace or um bergville etc so maybe there's just an element of like we just need to freshen this up and my only concern is that we go straight back to perlino and bentacore pivot if we don't do that and he goes like a bit more bold and a bit more brave with the younger players coming in there, then I think he's got the hint.

10:30And if he doesn't do it and we get a bad result, he has to change it to that. He has to at least consider changing it to that. Because this did demonstrate there's something there, isn't there? There is something you can build on playing that way. Definitely. T, what was your takeaway from the performance overall? And the situation we're in. I don't know if I spoke to you about Thomas Frank and how you feel about him. I don't know. I feel like, I don't know if he's going to be the guy at Spurs, but I don't really want to be treading over that ground again. I mean, the takeaway, I think, compared to, when we sort of started in 9-0, none of us could figure out what the formation was.

11:09We weren't sure if it was positive or negative, if it was 4-4-2. And there's someone like Archie Gray who's coming for a bit of stick from me. I thought, you know, in possession, he looked pretty good yesterday. He seems to be gaining in confidence. I mean, it was said who was Thomas Frank improved and low key, I think Graz looked half decent under him. And I would hope that Sartre and or Bergweld are going to start a line-up on Saturday because we need that young energy, you know. And that's what we had last night. I feel that the Arsenal game felt like a tipping point to me because the Chelsea game happened and there was the same sort of, you know, hand-wringing over the result and the performance that we had about 0.00XG and didn't look like scoring.

12:00Then it happened again on Sunday. And I think if he's not learned from that, then I can't see a long-term future for him. He's got to look at that and think, well, okay, maybe don't go Ange and all-out attack, but you've got to kind of make the best of the players in the squad. The squad needs a bit of an overhaul, but there's enough fit and available players there to give most of the teams in the Premier League a game especially at home I mean our home record is terrible and I think maybe Frank has got a maybe he lacks a little bit of a big club mentality because at home it's got to be a fortress and it doesn't feel like it's a fortress home it feels like we're kind of a counter-punching team away and I don't want that to be our identity and I'm hoping that Thomas Frank can move away from that I think he must understand the noise around him.

12:52And this is probably one of the criticisms of him is the way he responds to the noise or the lack of acknowledgement of the noise. The issues around having Benzincor and Palenja as a double pivot, the inability to create chances. He never really responds to those questions from the press in a way that you think, actually, no, he's really taking this on board. generally it feels like when these questions come up as they naturally come up it's a little bit like when Poster Coglu batted away the idea that we should be training for set pieces and no doubt again that they were training for set pieces there's no chance they weren't thinking about it but the fact that he he isn't tapping into the idea that there are there is this swell of frustration around what he's doing means that it's going to become a growing problem and he I don't know if he responded to it or he just felt like this was the best way to play PSG and I think everybody coming away from that game thinking this is the best way certainly at home this is the best way we should be playing that make things difficult put them under pressure make teams play maybe not against the better teams but certainly against Fulham at the weekend and and and I don't know if this is a blessing or a disguise for Thomas Frank in the fact that there is this general positive, well, as far as I understand and as far as when we've been talking to each other, there's this general positive idea about what we saw last night despite shipping five goals, that if the opportunity is to do that against Fulham and he doesn't take it, does that continue to build this issue that

14:35he's not sort of in line with what everybody else is doing? And maybe he's looking at it and going, well, mate, I know more than you lot. I know so much more than you lot. You may be thinking, what the fuck are you questioning me about? Who the fuck do you think you are? We've got an opinion. This podcast is based on opinions, but they're not based on an acute understanding of the game of football. It's just our experiences watching it. And as paying customers and custodians and stakeholders to the football club, we want to see a brand of football that we can get behind. And if he does it and we lose, it's fine as long as we're competitive to a certain degree if the loss is continued and it is more of an issue but last night and the last game against PSG and the game against Man City away from home where you think those are the games you want to be most solid those are the games you want to stop play and we and we decided to stop playing or attempt to in a really aggressive fan-friendly way so just fucking keep doing it I just want him to do it.

15:38I don't want to see, I don't want to see fucking being set up to just win jewels in the midfield against fucking Fellam. I want to see Bassey panicking on the ball, slipping over and Richarlison going through and dinking the keeper. That's what I want to see. There's no question there, John. I'm just ranting. I don't know if you've got any response. Yeah, I do just think like football generally at the moment is in a really weird place because like we were just talking about, like we've conceded to two hat tricks in in two games actually four of those goals were just from the edge of the area just someone else having a go and i haven't seen like us do that for about a million years and i feel like the whole landscape of football is just like completely changing so in other words like even two years ago the thought of building like your identity around set pieces was like you're an absolute moron set set pieces are low percentage you need to keep possession like a corner's just basically you might as well just give them a goal kick there's no point now teams are kicking off and fucking booting it in the corner going oh let's just try and get like throwing or get a corner corners are the most important thing ever now there's like throwing coaches and all sorts of stuff and the game just is like in a very weird state and i do think that we're as a team sort of stuck between two worlds a little bit and i don't really watch a lot of other teams so it's only when we we play like decent teams where I really feel like what we are used to seeing in the last since basically the sort of second season of Postacoglu in the league and what we started with with Frank when I watch it I'm like I can't even understand how you can play through the middle like I just don't I look at and I was like I don't know how we're going to get through the middle of the pitch and then I watch any other team and they're just fucking bopping it around moving around no problem at all they get to the edge of the area and they smash it in and i'm like what why can't we do that like what is it that we're doing and it's almost like we've been sort of conditioned that no that's the way the game is now you cut you shot you couldn't you shouldn't shoot from the edge of the area like that's low percentage well we've conceded four goals from long range efforts from the edge of the area in two games maybe we should start doing that right we've got players like xavi simmons who on the edge of the area in that position can do exactly what we've seen Eze and Vettinia do in the last two games against us he can do that but you've got to get him in the positions to be able to do that and I do feel like that's my sort of one hope is that there's just a bit more of a concerted effort to play in a more direct and like possession based way to try and get us playing in that way and we don't get sucked into what I think people now see is like the new generation of football which is just like massive blokes pumping it long and playing for set pieces i don't think we have like we haven't set up a squad to play like that and i don't think it really makes sense for us and that is also just horrible football to watch and so i think like there's got to be this adaption of playing a bit more like possession in a bit more structured way and i think the players that we've got and the players that we signed are more suited to that as well so this will be you know to tease point this will be the big test now for frank these next couple of games has he learned from this arsenal game was psg the start of a turn into something different or is it a bit of a false dawn and i'm hoping that it's like part of a a change of what we're doing because if we stay like this then it's gonna be very frustrating the irony was the first 14 year goal is from a quick corner a lot of our set pieces is um danzo's taking a throw in it takes 10 minutes for everyone to get into position and then he takes the throne and it goes to nothing.

19:20We do a corner. We wait for him to come up the pitch. You put one or two fingers up, lob it in the box. PSG, quick corner, bang. Everyone's on their heels, long shot. So just based on what John said with the long shooting, we can also vary it. We can just do like, you know what? Let's just do, because what some people actually do, they do free kick, they take it short, passes it back, the defenders have moved and then you can lob it over the top. You can do that as well. We just need to vary what we're doing here. so you can ask a question there's a picture to your right hand side and it looks like the set up of a formation of some sort of football match is that what it is?

19:57that no that to the left looks like players setting up in the formation this is a what do you mean that that's definitely not a formation there's about 20 players no that's that's rap that's some rap it's a rap is from the 90s and it's a bunch of a bunch of stickers and yeah M &M not on there no obviously he is actually and vanilla i'll list them all for you um actually i won't be just about 24 of them well it is who's your favorite up there i guess i'd have to say nas but diddy's on there which is nice yeah have you heard about diddy and what he's getting up to in prison well so not only a sex party in a house he's turned the prison into a fuck house as well well yeah you know what is it why is this where how do you does anyone have this sexual magnetism not that you know i'm not saying the diddy parties are in any way positive at all but whatever surrounds this man is sex and and and like he's gonna pay for what he did during the diddy parties but if you go to prison and convert an entire male wing into a fuck party there's that's some serious making but these things don't exist in a vacuum it's not like diddy woke up one day and had these parties obviously learned it from somewhere it's obviously generational and now we're in an age where everything is out in the public you know and i'm sure that in the prison is probably well connected and you know he's slipping on soap in showers like everyone else's and um it was the it was a it was the amount of baby or baby oil that alarmed me yeah and actually you know i mean the amount of opportunities that we conceived to psg it was like our defenders were covered in baby oil especially romero at that time yeah romero had a bad game i'm not going to criticize him he had a terrible game I love him but yeah I agree I think like Van der Ven was it felt like he wasn't at times he'd get the ball and like oh fuck Van der Ven still won the pitch so I was wondering the question I've got here really is is there any chance that Frank looks at that given how porous and how badly the defence played um that he just will dislike that to an extent where he shifts to the point where he wants to protect them again and maybe he doesn't blame the players for their individual performances.

22:12I'm not sure I do either. We've got to preface it with Romero being suspended on Saturday, by the way. It's a Danso in, right? Straight in? Yeah, it seems inevitable. My old man last night went, I ain't having Porro. I don't mind that take. You know what? Romero slows the game down too much. So what I'm saying, if you want to fix this, Thomas Frank, and he was talking to me, is sell Romero, bring Vuskovich in make the profit and Spurs are fixed I was like if your business runs on five different apps twelve browser tabs and one spreadsheet that everyone's afraid to touch it's probably time for Odoo Odoo is an all-in-one business management software that connects every part of your business into one powerful easy-to-use platform so instead of wasting time switching between disconnected systems your entire business works together in real time.

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25:34Like, number one, this kid. That is insane. Do you remember the comments he made at the start of the season? He said, you know, I'm way off from Van de Ven and Romero, so it's inevitable I was going to get loaned out. Man is just humble and he's just like smashing it in Germany. Yeah. Let's talk about, do we, do I need to renege a little bit on Richarlison I thought he was alright yesterday you've got to keep it up he scored that bullying works that's what T's saying bring back bullying keep it going yeah he's obviously listening to your words double down on the hate yeah triple down if necessary triple down to what end him scored 20 in a season why I guess so it's me it's me it's my somehow I'm my hatred of Richarlison and now it is I don't hate him.

26:28I don't hate him at all. I just think he's fucking wonk. But the goal against Arsenal is like, if any striker in the world scores that and you win, it's talked about for weeks and weeks and weeks. It was a beautiful, beautiful finish. And, you know, against... Who else did it before? He scored recently. Burnley. Man City. Yeah, Burnley Man City. But there's also, obviously, he scored in Paris yesterday. And he looked so much more comfortable as a part of a front two, where he had Mouane to... He didn't have to do all of the stuff. He could sort of almost concentrate on just being a normal striker.

27:13And I wonder what Richarlison would have done in the 4-4-2 age. Maybe he would have done bits. I'm not sure. But, yeah, them two up front, they're pressing the energy, the aggression, they're getting involved in things. I was satisfied with both of them especially Mouane you want to talk about next but like Frank seems to like Richarlison or is it just a case of not having anybody else John what do you make of that well Richarlison like does this a lot doesn't he where he'll just get on a bit of a run or like score a couple of goals or you know like make good performances and we all do it where we go oh yeah no he's alright maybe he's alright and then there'll be a run where he's absolutely horrendous or he gets injured for ages and we're back in the cycle of, we've got to replace Richarlison.

27:58Both things can be true, right? He can be on a good run of form and he can be playing really well and he probably deserves to play at the minute. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be looking ultimately to upgrade him as soon as humanly possible because medium to long term, he is not going to be what gets us moving forward as a football club. So right now he's playing really well. He took his goal well and he's done all right and he can do all right and you can find a way to make it work. but he's always going to be frustrating. We'll be having the same conversation the second half of this season at some point where we're the other side of the argument, where we're literally slating him, absolutely going off and on about how shit he is.

28:38So that's just the natural order of stuff with him. It's kind of just the way it's going to be with him. So it's annoying because he's kind of like a bit of a cult-type player where he's sort of shit enough where he'll never be considered to be a classy, misunderstood player. He's kind of a bit scruffy and a bit bad, but he's scored some mental goals and he's a bit of a character and he's quite likeable. So I don't want to hate him. I don't think you hate him either, but what he represents and how he plays is just super irritating. As for the 4-4-2 era, yeah, they fucking ripped it up. Just put in a Teddy Sheridan number 10 with him.

29:18They just put him in all the time. and crosses coming in every two minutes into the box. He'd have scored shitloads in that era. There are loads of players that are just in the wrong era that just wouldn't have been able, that can't really do it now or vice versa. And he's definitely one of them. He'd have been a machine in the 90s, I reckon. Before we talk about Carlo Marni's performance and what he might do going forward and the things we think about him, I was thinking about, I got slightly aroused when he scored that third goal, when it dropped to him, high pressure, dropped to him, dipped the shoulder, smashed it in the net, and I was like, yeah, the boy's arrived.

29:57But if I wasn't aroused by that, then I might need MedExpress. So did you know that one in five men in the UK experience changes in sexual performance as they get older? See? No? Yeah, it happens a lot. No, no, no, you don't have to say that, because you're the most highly sexed person I've met. yeah even even when i bang my knee on the table you know i mean get a semi can we talk about um you don't have to say this or respond to this in any way but when often when i think about you i think of turnaround in a scottish accent did you say that on the main pod i probably did yeah do you want to bring it up again or look man the old school people will know if you don't know then yeah but if you know you know he doesn't speak Scottish but he did for a moment in the bedroom turn around

30:58but obviously as we're all getting older and people are listening to this and the podcast gets older it's hard to admit it's hard to acknowledge the fact that sexual performance might be an issue and keeping a hard on might be an issue and there have been many times through the past where I've relied on something like MedExpress where it sorted me out. And even when, you know, I haven't had to rely on or haven't felt like I'd needed these things that I might have used it just to enhance the experience in the bedroom. Never on my own. Once or twice on my own just to see what happens. But yeah, obviously MedExpress will sort you out.

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32:25medexpress.co.uk to check your eligibility and get 30 off the code tfc your life could be changed by one short consultation you don't have to speak with someone in person it's completely online it's all good it does require a free online consultation with a license provider to determine the treatment is appropriate and uh yes so kola moani um it felt like it was coming it felt like oh it felt like it was uh um that that kind of performance where he scores two goals in clutch moments you know we go two one up we go uh we bring him back to four three and in those moments you think we've got an opportunity if we bring it back to four or what story we've gone 2-1 up great finish you know i know the defender got ahead on it but you know it was his technique meant it was impossible to save second goal was superb and it just what we've all been saying the sort of undercurrent of his performances though they've been fleeting for spurs have been there's been just a hint of quality there's just been something there that we're just latching on to just think actually we've got we've got a player here we've got to play i don't know why psg allowed him to play so they own him they got his registration um but yeah what what did you make of the performance do you think do you think t that that this is this is a player that he needs that that we need to integrate at every opportunity well absolutely absolutely um i mean i guess the i guess the issue we kind of have is um maybe there's a lot better with charlis in there with another striker close to him.

34:00Normally we'd have Kudus on one side or Odebeer or another winger on the left, just putting the crosses in, but maybe having another physical presence close to him can maybe see the best in him. But the two goals are very, very well taken. I'm not sure if any other strikers would have scored in the same way. But no, I'm really, really happy with him. And as I keep saying, we haven't got an international break until March, so So we're going to have games coming thick and fast and he'll have time to find his feet because it's been a very stop start so far. I think he arrived out of shape. So his first few weeks are spent kind of going to have to speed the Premier League football.

34:38And then international breaks kind of blocked the momentum. So now he's in a position where he's got two goals away to the European champions. That should give him a lot of confidence going into some important home games for, not just Spurs, but for Thomas Frank. And if he's a talisman, then that'll just be amazing. So, yeah, I've got high hopes for him, really high hopes. Yeah, I also thought like the, so the two goals were great, but I also thought it's like header across for Richarlison's goal and the build-up to that goal was sort of exactly why he should be in the team or why we should be looking to get some of those younger players into the team.

35:16Just the technical ability, like Gray's little ball around the corner, Bergwold's little like interchangeable passing, like the way that they were linking up gives me a bit more hope and I feel like you have to get you know like I was talking about before right if we're not going to be this like long ball merchant team where we want to get a bit more of a technical ability players and a bit more interchange and playing through the middle you need to get the likes of Mawani at Simmons Odebeir Kudus Gray Bergvold Saar like you need to get these lot playing with each other more frequently and so T's right like if we've got a run of games now I just want to see them playing together more frequently and yeah like we said Richarlison's done well but if it means we can get more of those technical players on the pitch that's what I would like Frank to prioritize because I think that's the way that we move forward we can't I know everyone's and I've been like guilty of it as well going we just need better players which is true right longer term there's a lot of players that are upgradable even in the ones I just mentioned there But right now, let's just get the most technical players on the pitch more often and see where that takes us.

36:21And Mouane definitely in that list because I think he's looking slightly better in every performance that we're seeing from him, which is really encouraging. What would you like to see? Would you like to see him play up top with Richarlison as a pair or Solanke as a pair? Or would you like him just as our main striker or off the left? I guess there are options. But I guess the best place for him would be leading the line. Yeah, for me personally, I'll just play a front three of Odebeir on the left, Mouane down the middle and Koudeson the right. And then I would like to try and... Yeah, and then when Solanke comes back, then you've got options, right?