S15E48 - The Hope Of What Could Be

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1:29Hello, John, boy. What, son? Yeah, it's Thursday. You don't know what that means, but there's no football on. My favourite podcast to do, of all the millions of podcasts I do, and obviously now an additional podcast that you have to do, is the Q &A Thursday podcast. Just chill out, relax. We don't have to worry about what happened previously and why we've just been beaten by X team. We can just chew the fat and talk about Spurs, and there's tons to talk about. but before we do I don't know I'm you know I'm a big admirer of yours John Bass oh thanks mate I'm a big fan big supporter you know and I'll back everything you do however I thought your performance on Monday was 6 out of 10 that's fine right standard exactly it's like Conor Gallagher right so you know you come in you did your bit and you left I think the whole podcast felt a bit like that right however I looked at the Spotify comments and clearly I was mistaken.

2:31So Fizzy Dillbelly, Berry, says, Big John, spot on again. Define the way we play and align everyone from board to exec to management, staff and players. Problem is the club have been run like a corporation with no regard for glory. Even when we got the taste of glory with a quarter of a million people in the street, we still reacted incoherently to appoint John the pragmatist. Not you, John. Vinay chose Frank, and now he's hiding at the awful decision. All the goodwill from Bilbao has been destroyed, and the players are clearly lost. It didn't stop there, John. Wow. Big John providing yet another therapy session for us on a Wednesday.

3:11Not all heroes wear capes. I would say John is wearing, I mean, it's not a cape, but a wonderful smother. He's got on at the moment an Abbey Crombie and Fitch number. Yeah, it's a rather natty cardigan. it's pretty it is quite leery it's a bit of a rascal clubber but I quite like it yeah and then finally Matt Martin says Fighting Cock is the Wu-Tang Clan of podcasts start off together stay together and create multiple individual podcasts of quality good work fellas well that's nice isn't it that's good to hear I was thinking about what all of you all of you lot would do if I hadn't started the Fighting Cock all back in the year I'd just be doing what I was doing before mate just locked in a quiet room wanking into a corner just on my own crying we're gonna we're gonna be joined by um james regal who's comedian's been on a couple times before um but he's currently showing his flat around in barcelona to a lady who likes to host sex parties that he was unaware of so we'll get the lowdown on that when he joins this podcast uh it shouldn't be too long um uh good good first week for your podcast the big john basso A lot of people didn't realise you put H in.

4:24So there's been two big controversies from this podcast. One, people are now finally realising my name doesn't have a H in, despite the fact they follow me. So my name literally doesn't have a H in. So that was interesting. But we got over that, and I said on the pod, anyone who went to the extra effort of thinking my name had a H in it, but still managed to find the pod anyway, like extra kudos for that. Legend. And then the other controversy was apparently, like, I just drink loads of water. Now, I was trying to be conscious of the fact that when I was drinking water on the pod to, you know, move my head away from the mic and try not to make it a big thing.

4:59Right. But apparently, I just drink loads of water. Like, I'm basically just, you know, half speaking. Just underwater for half the pod. So, yeah, that was interesting. But, yeah, mate, it was really good. and obviously like you know a lot of people from uh fighting cock listeners have come over to listen to that as like additional content in the fighting cock universe which is really lovely so um yeah thanks to anyone that's listened if anyone hasn't then comes out every wednesday so feel free and from uh the poddingham podcast poddingham podspur podspur podcast who um i've been on his podcast and i've published that podcast on the lab feed another podcast um he said another podcast i'll add it to my spreadsheet so um expect a message from ian in uh in due course john boy um did you did you see uh today it seems like a couple of itks have come out and generally noise from the club uh is is that thomas frank will be given at least the end of the season um we've brought in a new assistant to him who will work it's uh johnny heisinger do you remember him yeah i remember him Ajax.

6:11He played for Everton, didn't he, as well? Yeah, he played for Everton. Ajax, I think he might have been capped for Holland as well. Yeah, he definitely played for Holland, for sure. He was in that era. And, yeah, so he's been brought in to support him, which would suggest there is a there is an idea that Thomas Frank should be around for the foreseeable. And even if he isn't, we have to bring in capable people who can navigate the pitfalls of management in the modern era where you just don't last long and you can't just keep replacing everybody at the club every single time you replace a manager right just it just doesn't how do you build coherence if that's the fact for every club it was in i was listening to a brentford the brentford chairman and he was doing some sort of panel and it was just like a 90 second clip i just found it really interesting because he was like saying i just didn't i don't what's Come on.

7:09Oh, all right, James. There he is. You don't say hello, you just wave. This is a podcast, an audio podcast. I'm not going to just come and scratch his mic. Scratch his mic. Scratch his mic. Brilliant. Speak, man. You guys good? I'm good. You look happy. Why are you happy? So it's just a nice sunny day here in Barcelona, my friend. No, no, that's not it. We've already established that there's going to be sex parties at your new, your new place. Oh, that's been discussed already, is it in my absence yeah of course did you have fun on your little podcast the little podcast you go could i come on again please right you said you the most interesting thing that's been said to me today james is uh i'm just gonna show a new roommate around potential roommate around my house well i'm because i've got to come to england to do some work and stuff for a few weeks i need someone to look after the cat in the house but i checked her out on social media and she likes to throw sex parties that was the most interesting thing i've heard today yeah is she going to be looking after your house while you're away in in uh in england uh i mean that's that's to be determined flav um but obviously i have a strict uh no sex parties in my house when i'm not here rule yeah i think you're the most sexually active man i've ever met i that's hard to know if that's a good thing or a bad thing really wow it's a good thing yeah yeah i just every time i look at you i think that man likes to put his penis in things yeah they do call me a top shagger it's true what is top shagger in spanish el top shaggino what is yeah that's exactly right what is it uh i don't know if you have a word for top shagger what's the spanish word for shag I mean, foyar means to fuck, basically.

8:57El primo foyar, something like that. It's primo? It'd probably be something like el que foya. It's like the man who fucks. I love it. Yeah, that's you. What were we talking about? Johnny Heitinger joining Spurs basically means that we're not getting rid of Frank anytime soon. No, yeah, we're not getting rid of him. And the Brentford chairman was saying, how much he look he just doesn't understand the fact that managers bring in an entire backroom staff and when you sack the manager or he wants to leave it guts the club in the way that Frank did when he left and as much as a club can be in control of such things it's about putting things in place in order for the departure of a manager or a player or whoever it might be is is as least impactful as possible and it kind of that's what I'm saying but Johnny Heisinger is that how you say his name isn't it?

9:59the fact that he's coming in should be not just to support Thomas Frame but to support if he's really good at his job to support whoever is managing Tottenham Hotspur and and the next manager is saying you ain't bringing all your mates like if you're like you want to manage Spurs you're not bringing all your mates we've got Johnny Heisinger here right he's going to run things for a little bit right it will let you know when you need backroom staff. Anyway, James, we haven't spoken to you for a while. And can you do me a favor and just check definitely that your mic is selected rather than your earphones?

10:35Just because it sounded a bit tinny before. I'd rather say it now than just the whole podcast. So just, where is your mic? Hold it up. I don't have enough time to connect everything up. So that might be why it sounds shit. Nice one, mate. Yeah, nice, thanks. I mean, you know, if he's only my livelihood. That's right. I mean, if it's that important to you, maybe give me more than five minutes notice. I did ring him again. We need one for the pod. I've got this fucking sex pest coming around to look after my house. I ain't got time to set it up. All right, no problem. Yeah, so where are you at with Thomas Frank now, mate?

11:13I'll tell you now, the last couple of games, I was at full head loss. I'm generally someone who likes to give a manager time I have a lot of patience I obviously don't get to watch us live that often but I got the chance to go to the Palace game which we won amazingly enough but it was so bad and then I watched Brentford as the follow up and then that first half against Villa and I'm just like get him gone I don't care who comes in I can't watch this anymore and let's just get Pochin in the summer and let's go full vibes. Yeah, that's where I've been at. Inexplicably, for some reason, I think he's going to turn it around.

11:54I don't know why. Against every fibre of my being and everything that I understand, I'm just thinking, it can't be this shit. He must not. He was able to create something for Brentford last year that was decent. They scored 66 goals. Only five teams scored more than Brentford. or four teams called Moreland-Brentford last year. And I don't know if Conor Gallagher is the guy that's going to do it. Maybe not. I don't know. There's a lot of people talking about profiles and he's not the right player and whatnot. He is a good, very good player and I have no issue with the signing. What do you boys make of the signing, John Boy?

12:34Mate, I think it's good. I get what people are saying about needing a, I'm using proper like modern football terms, progressive passer. But I get why people want that because, you know, We've got a lot of ball carriers. We've got a destroyer in Paulina. We are missing a sort of more creative spark in that sense. But we have just seen Bentancourt cropped again, and we don't particularly love him as an option there. So it is an improvement on the other options there, like Gray, Bergvold, Saar, all quite young and still early. And you wouldn't say they would be sort of ripping up trees at this moment in time.

13:09So bringing in Conor Gallagher does make a lot of sense. I think like longer term you sell Benteco and he just takes his space in the squad you still need a progressive passer but it's got to be the right one right and I know that to a certain extent the Connor Gallagher deal is a little bit of an opportunity and we've taken that but he is like perfect age like great experience now I think he's a leader as well on the pitch which is important especially in midfield which I think we definitely need that but we've got handsome really handsome really handsome the most important for sure so that's good because we're back to you know handsome fc which is nice but we still need to sign this progressive possible it can't just be anyone right and like i don't again i don't think january is necessarily the best time for deals now it's not my job to identify players and it does always annoy me i know we spoke about this other day where it's like the window opens and then they're like oh we need to start looking it's like you should always be looking for these players i don't know who they are but if we can't get them in january then we have to just be a bit careful that we don't just try and sign anyone who's half decent at passing because we also have a talent gap between the teams that are above us and so if we just stock the squad up with lower quality players that's also an issue so I get they're like he's not the right profile but he is high quality so whoever's this kind of high profile passer type person they have to be of a certain quality to move us forward so I like the signing a lot I think there's a lot of you know ticks in boxes plus as James alluded to if we get Potch back Potch is a massive fan I heard you and Harry Brooks talking about it on the lab he's a massive fan of Connor Gallagher so that's just like another reason to bring Potch back so yeah I think it's all around it's positive it feels good as well I feel like he's given us a bit of a lift I think he's got a level of like self-assured confidence that he'll bring to the pitch that that we need so yeah I'm all in mate what about you James how do you feel about the corner Gallagher I think uh initial reaction was just quite negative uh because that's just the way it is I was like no um because I think the first link was he was alone and then it was like veteran for him anyway uh but the more it started to sound like a more concrete thing I started to look into and I remember Chelsea only sold him because that was that period where they had to sell anyone they could profit and he had come through their youth ranks that he was first off the line but he was their captain as he said you know poch was playing a week in week out um so now i'm excited you know benton core's cropped he's not been good anyway i've seen a lot of the tacticos complaining on twitter that oh he's going to stun gray and bergval but these are two 19 year old kids that we should not be relying on to play first team football he's the perfect guy to come in for them to play with learn off so i like it and as you guys said uh very very handsome i could just imagine him playing next to bergval it's just going to be just like a wall of of just sex well i think uh that's troublesome um in a way because bergval's very young uh i believe he's an adult so what you're trying to say that's your that's your thinking is it yeah i mean we're all in our 40s right i mean should be talking about attractive young men really should be well it's funny you say that because all i was thinking is like why have you left out van de vent i mean if somehow in this new modern era two men can have a baby i'm sure it's gonna happen because a lot of people are gonna will it right here's the thing right now So, Flav, when you met your missus, right, she didn't – like Spurs wasn't on her radar.

16:51No. I see, right? You had to kind of – she had to learn to learn. And, John, I don't know about your missus as well. Yeah, same. So, I've just – I started dating my girlfriend about six months ago. She's really keen to get into – she's American. She's really keen to support the team, and she's never watched football before. But I played smash or pass with the entire squad with her. Right. And she passed – What did she go for? She passed on everyone except one player. She passed on Van der Vent? No, I think Van der Vent was the only one she said possibly smash, right? But everyone else she passed.

17:24And that's embarrassing. Well, because she's going out with you. In her eyes, she's like, you're the best looking person. That's great for your self-esteem, right? I mean, yeah, lovely. But also, you know, very embarrassing for the football club I support. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, how you can't look at sort of...

17:49I can't think of a single one I would check, actually, apart from Van der Ven, probably. Maybe she's onto something. Maybe this is it. This is exactly why we need to... Not only are we overrating the quality of our footballers, but also how good-looking they are. Yeah, forget this. I tell you it's the worst-looking, Romero. Fucking horrible.

18:10Absolutely horrible. so I've had a bit of a week I don't want to make this about myself or anything but I got really unfairly attacked by Aston Villa fans after they beat us at the weekend I don't understand where it came from I've never had such a visceral reaction to Spurs losing from another fan base not even Arsenal, Chelsea or West Ham I get a bit from those when they beat us Villa it was weird it was like 20-30 messages are saying, ah, how's that feel? You're not shit. You always be shit, yo. Like that. It was like unbelievable. And I'm like, why has this happened? Like, I'm not bothered by it because they're just like gimps on the internet.

18:54But how did, why are Villa fans being so reactive to me? And me, after you just beat, why, like surely you've got better things to do than tweet me after we won. And then I looked, someone pointed me actually in the direction of the overlap the overlap have clipped up a conversation i've had about aston villa 24 months ago saying that they're a yo-yo club and they shouldn't be anywhere near the big six conversation a fill of fans have latched onto that been really made really angry by it and fucking give me a dog's abuse getting in my dms everything and I'm thinking alright well this is unnecessary I'm not it doesn't bother me too much but I think this is excessive, you just won a game of football and when we beat you 4-0 I didn't think about you at all so then when Gallagher turns them down two days later to join Tottenham instead of joining that heap I just had to tweet that there's a food chain to these things as much as you might be in a bit of a form Emery might be a great manager, but when it comes down to it, class is permanent, form is temporary, you little slags.

20:07So yeah, been a bit of a challenging week for me.

20:12Let's get to the questions then, because it is Q &A. Oh, another bit of abuse I received while I'm at it. Geezer on Twitter says, this is a reaction to the podcast we did with Harry Brooks about why Conor Gallagher is a good signing on the lab. If you haven't listened to it, go and listen to it. is a direct quote from me on the pod and he said on Reddit, he isn't what we need, but we can't pass up on an opportunity to sign such a player. And he said, I'm disappointed for Flav, not in me, but for me. Disappointed for Flav to be extolling one of the biggest flaws in our transfer dealings, making opportunity signings regardless of where they play.

20:52Rather than players, we need to cover our weak positions. And I'm just, I thought it was a fair question. Three likes on that. Wankers a lot. What, I thought it was a fair question, is it? Should we be buying players like Conor Gallagher who perhaps aren't addressing the immediate needs inside the first 11 or in the squad? Or if the opportunity, which is my point, to sign a player of obvious quality that improves the squad, we can't pass that up. Is that something that a bigger club might not do? Or if the opportunity to sign Conor Gallagher is there in front of us, why not sign him? Where are you at with that, John?

21:30So, like, generally speaking, I mean, we spoke about this at the start of the week. Generally speaking, I think, like, the club's overall strategy has been chaotic, including opportunistic signings that don't really make sense or haven't really made sense, and that have ended up costing us. So part of me is, like, about to contradict myself in saying that, but I understand it this time. Because the reason I understand it this time is I think it's not only opportunistic, but he is also better than what we currently have. so I know that people want a progressive passer but we don't just play with an exact 11 right you don't just have like that those 11 players and no one else it's a squad game the issue that we've got is that when you lose a couple of players you are down to as James said like a couple of 19 year old essentially rookie central midfielders that's no good right and every time we come up against It's the team that ends up turning us over.

22:23Teams that, in theory, we should be way ahead of. We list their midfield and go, oh, that midfield walks all over us. Yeah, because we actually don't have very high standard currently central midfielders, regardless of this progressive passer. So Conor Gallagher, alongside Paulina, makes our central midfield much better than it was last week. So I think that, aside from being opportunistic, is just a good sign-in. It's just a better eight in the midfield. And like I said, we still need to sign other players alongside that. But I think if it's opportunistic, as long as it improves the squad and improves the first 11 in this case, then it actually does make sense.

23:03I just think that because we've made opportunistic signings in the past, that we are a bit scared of this one. But if you don't take these chances, especially in the position we are now, right? It's not like your city where you basically decide who you want to sign and then they come to you. We do have to kind of make opportunistic sign-ins now because we don't have the same sway as we had before. So yeah, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing at the minute. Score more with the college-branded Venmo debit card and earn up to 5 % cash back with Venmo Stash. Got paid back? With the Venmo debit card, you can instantly access your balance and spend on what you want, like game day snacks, gear, tickets, and more.

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24:43from the Home Depot. Start your spring with low prices guaranteed at the Home Depot. Exclusions apply to HomeDepot.com slash price match for details. How about you, James? How do you feel about like, you know, the idea of being a little bit reactive? I know it's a problem that Spurs have been reactive in the past, but when someone like Conor Gallagher comes across, should we just actually take that money and focus it on something that we really, really need rather than just buying another good player? I mean, first of all, I agree with everything John said. Secondly, we just saw does all the time yeah well he's a wise he's a wise and big man um now well you know we just also just sold brennan johnson for more or less the same fee so you know i know football finances you know amortization and blah blah blah but ultimately you know it's 35 out 35 in oh vice versa actually 500 grand in in in the green there we go you know and levy's not even here anymore so he'd be proud um i i think you know the other thing is what that person is failing to take into account is uh we are shit uh and he is a good footballer yeah so bringing in a good footballer not only just a good way clear you know he's got a good mentality he's fingers crossed as a good fitness record i hate to sound a bit reform here but he's young he's english yeah Yeah, of course.

26:02Don't worry about selling reform here, mate. You're in good company. This has totally nothing to do with anything, but have you seen UKIP's new logo? Oh, my God. Do you mean UKIP, a.k.a. the Fourth Reich? Yes, I have seen it. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, oh, no, no, just because the Nazis used it doesn't mean it's a Nazi symbol. And by the way, this is a Charlie Chaplin. Oh, my God, I've just Googled it. It's absolutely mental. Christ, what are they thinking? Yeah, but their explanation is hilarious. What was it? We watched the first half American History X and we loved it and then turned it off.

26:36Basically, it was saying, oh, this is an old Christian cross that has been around. You know, it just so happens we also are a right-wing political party. Oh, by the way, this moustache, that's Chaplin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But surely, I don't want to go down this and John, please don't chip in, right? But if you've got reform, why do you need UKIP? I don't know, maybe I'm being, I don't know enough. I'd say based on the logo I'd say don't chip in based on the logo to be more racist I'd say is probably their aim yeah yeah yeah yeah anyway yeah Colin Gallagher definitely votes UKIP I think that's what I was trying to say well you brought it up you derailed yourself yeah true true but yeah no young English talented coming into I think it's it's a smart and you know here's the other thing we've been really bad at selling players right we've that's a known thing for a while i think actually the most encouraging thing is has been us selling johnson at the earliest opportunity regardless of what happened with kudos it doesn't matter if kudos if johnson was still here i just began angry watching brennan johnson pretend to play football every week it was so like if karlika comes in and he is better than benton core better than sar then those two get sold because that's what elite football clubs do they sell players that aren't as good as the ones to bring in it so fine uh the podcast a recent podcast i did with anatole um on the on the lab um he made a really sort of obvious but really succinct and and interesting point is that the biggest clubs can sell players and not even blink like they don't even because it doesn't hurt them because they've got a structure and a place the recruitment strategy in place it means that they can be replaced or they already have something in their squad um and and so we we shouldn't be worried about selling our top goal scorer from last year it shouldn't even register into our thinking unless he's genuinely delivering on the pitch and then you might think actually well if we're selling our better players and that's an issue but when johnson was sold bearing in mind he barely played any any football this year anyway 35 million pound at this stage is excellent business and um likewise bringing Conor Gallagher in, I think, his excellent business and also selling Valise for 10 million euros, apparently, we're going to get for Valise.

28:58Yeah, just sensational. Anyway, let's do some questions here. Believe in Big Ange. Too late. Pap Sarr has been called up to the Senegal squad at AFCON, but he's played a total of nine minutes the whole tournament. I love Pap, but is this evidence that the talent in our squad is not good enough to be competing in the top level of the Premier League. In fact, he's not played any minutes for Senegal. I don't know who's... Senegal's midfield might be incredible. I don't know who plays... James, tell me who's in Senegal's midfield, please. No. Okay, John? No idea. All right. Well, obviously, whoever it is, they're better than fucking Papsar.

29:43The thing is with Papsar, because I've heard this a few times now about like... And for me, it's the same with Bergwell, same with Gray. They're clearly talented. There's something there. But at this moment in time, they're obviously not top level. They're not at the level, say, for example, of a Conor Gallagher, someone who's played Champions League football for a really decent team and performed really well and been a captain of a Premier League side. So obviously, they're not at that level. To me, it also feels like a coach thing, right? Like, what is our biggest complaint about Thomas Frank?

30:14is that we just try and get it up the line, Takouda, hold it, and then spam balls into the box. That's not really conducive to getting the most out of young midfielders, central midfielders, is it? They're just literally being hung out to dry in my eyes. I personally feel like if you had a manager, and I'll just use Potch as an example, if you had a manager like Potch who wants to work with young players and gets the most out of them and did move someone forward like Conor Gallagher, that you can't do the same thing with Saar, Graeme, Bergvold. Now, I guess the issue is that there's only so many places in the midfield and you know you've got to try and get this progressive passer that we want in there and you need potentially like for certain games a destroyer like a palina fine but as we know in a modern game it's not 11 men anymore and we're playing in you know hopefully next season four competitions you need a squad of players that can come in i just think that we haven't done a particularly great job especially under frank of finding a way to get these players in and getting the most out of them so i think under a different manager playing a different system that's asking those players to do different things you might see a little bit more out of them so I wouldn't be writing them off and also look Paulina's only alone we don't know if the the club plans to keep him they might decide that they don't want to in which case then actually we don't have this like huge overstock of numbers if you sell Benzicore and Paulina goes then it's back to actually like a completely manageable number so I don't know we just don't know what's going to happen so I think it's too early to be worried about those type of players for the minute unless unless we can significantly improve on them, like with the Conor Gallagher thing.

31:45If there's another player that comes in and there's just too many and one's got to go, one's got to go. This is like we've been talking about. One thing we all moaned about was not selling players at the right time. Now we're doing it, people are kicking off about it. So we have to at some point make this turn of being a bit ruthless with a player. And if the people at the club don't feel, I'll use Saar as the example, they don't feel he will make it, then we have to sell him. But at the minute, I don't think he's been given a fair enough go to see if he can actually make a difference for us. The midfielders that he's competing with is Drissa Gay of Everton and Habib Diara of Sunderland and Papa Gay of Villarreal.

32:30So they're obviously better than them or suit the system better.

32:35Someone says here, James, first application 11 Big Andrew's director of football shaping the direction and mentality of a football club am I crazy on this one? I've had similar thoughts it's like he's such a vibes man he obviously knows football but I mean first of all there's no way he'd come back so it's just a moot point anyway but I've since since like this is how you know the season's got bad because I've been doing this as well we're now in in the fan fiction phase of supporting Tottenham I was daydreaming the other day you know We bring Potch back. He gets Vertonghen as an assistant. And then Harry Kane comes back, not next season, but the season after for a final hurrah.

33:16And I'm genuinely getting excited as if that was going to happen. So I say, yeah, and let's bring in Big Ang, director of football above it all. You know, give us, not a team talk, because that would be weird for a director of football, but maybe like, you know, in their quarterly AGM, they do with all coaching staff, player staff. Big Ang comes in, does one of his speeches, and then him and Poch take us to the treble. It's funny you say that because you've got a question here who says, I will dominionate. He says, if you could have one of them back, Poch or Kane, what would it be? Kane. Yeah, it was the best strike in the long.

33:56So I don't want to say, I want to whisper this. I don't really want to say it out loud, right? But I've watched a few of Kane's recent goals. it is dog meat that league honestly it is garbage it is so bad like I know I know like there's this sort of big this thing about English fans banging on about the Premier League it's like a different sport to every other league in Europe the goal that Kane scored the other day was a worldie he curled it off he hit the crossbar and the post he was in the box and there was not a single defender near him so I'm not saying don't give him back 100 % getting back but I'm just thinking like I think he sold himself short going to a dog meat league I really do thing is Matt if he came back though just think of this season right if someone just clipped up every single Richarlison miss they're all goals because Kane scores every single one right so we're top we're top of the league so you just you know make it work not even just the goals but every time like the ball bounced off his shin or he smashes a pass out you know for a throw in Kane is I'd love to see him come back because say we had Poch right I think he probably still wants to play a relatively high press Kane's probably going to be too old to do that but imagine him sort of just dropping more into a kind of 10 role in his later years the same way Rooney did he'd be the best 10 in the league yeah he'd just do the Ericsson role for us like just threading passes and just like being creative it'd just be amazing yeah and he'd still score bundles of goals so yeah it'd be great I actually think the sensible decision, which is, you know, not in best interests of the fighting cock, but I think, do you think overall perhaps a manager who's competent and sort of fit into the ethos of the football club on what we really want from it might be holistically more impactful than bringing back Chunky?

35:50Slug. Slug. Bringing back the slug. I mean, like, yes, I think, like, well, James, you mentioned it earlier, right? Like, you want Potch back. I would want him back. I think there's a lot of reason to bring him back because of the same reason we're talking about Ange being director of football. He gets the club. He understands what it means. My biggest complaint with Frank is not even the results. It is the performance. I can't watch it. I find it unbearable to watch because I don't know what we're doing. We don't play in a positive passing the ball through the middle of the pitch type way. It's all just very agricultural and it's pretty UKIP football.