S15E50 - A Life Less Angry

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1:30Cock! Oh, come on, shut up! Everything's fine, isn't it? Everything's... So that was good. What are they moaning about? That was good, wasn't it? Good game. Don't... Yeah. No, at least you can say yes to the game. Doesn't matter what you're franking on. It was a good game. We played well. Good game. We played well. We had our backs against the wall. Came out. Big dick swinging. in the first 10-15 minutes I was like what the fuck is going on here where's this been and let's get this out of the way quickly I genuinely think the German league is utter muck but other than that I think you should give us some credit there anyway uh joined by Jack Hussey to trunk and of rule the roost mate rule the roost just seems to be flying at the moment I don't know what's changed, what you've done or what maybe they're finally coming around to you after 13 years.

2:32But Jack, it's resonating. It's good stuff. Is that patronising? Sorry. A little bit. A little bit. Sorry mate. I'm just trying to acknowledge the fact that it's going really well. I liked your comment the other day when you were talking about all of the I saw somebody said to you about all the offshoot pods that have basically spawned from Fighting Cop. You're welcome. you're saying well what would you all be without me yeah yeah yeah i was thinking about the car just driving along going what would everyone be doing if it wasn't for me right now but then i generally wasn't i didn't think of it quite like that but i was thinking about how mental it's just thinking about your podcast uh and john bass has just started a podcast and you've got one in danish and they and i was just thinking it all if like obviously these things would have happened anyway most people would have started or figured out a way to do it and that but it started from me being on the w7 but for the fine cock started from me being on w7 bus and listening to the spurs show footfield cornwell doing impressions of martin yarl which i absolutely loved you remember that back in the day i remember the spurs show You never listened to the first show?

3:45I have done since, but I didn't even have any idea what a podcast was when you first started talking about it. No, it's good when you meet sort of elderly gentlemen now and they go, what do you do for a living? I'm like, all right, podcast. And they look at you like you're a fucking animal. What are you on about a podcast? It's like a radio show on your phone. It's not a real job though, is it? According to my dad, I don't like work. That's what he says. You don't like work, do you? Well, kind of is work, dad. Yeah, but not proper work, not men's work, is it? Yeah, your dad did do a proper man's job, though.

4:17Yeah. That's a proper man's job. He says, my hands feel like a small woman's. Yeah. Nothing I ever do will be good enough for you, will it, Dad? Nothing. Just serious generational trauma. Genuinely, I'm well past the point of needing to impress my dad. I really am. But we went to Spurs at the weekend, as I mentioned in the last podcast, and that was a dire performance against West Ham. and last night was the direct opposite. And you're kind of thinking, well, where has this performance been for the entire season? Why did it all work? Why was it clicking? Dortmund give us a lot of space, but they wanted to play their game, which was like an attacking game.

4:54And we just defended well and just hurt them every time we had the ball up until the point where sending off from Svensson changed the sort of dynamic of the game and whatnot. And we just could kind of be somewhat reserved, although we continue to press. And yeah, just a wholesomely entertaining and enjoyable game of football. And just quickly, I was in a terrible mood when kickoff started because I'd hit a pothole on the way to my dad's and burst my tire. And you'll love this, Jack. I did something proper gammon. Go on. I went on the local Facebook group and moaned about potholes. Yeah. Yeah.

5:36Did you do lots of the red angry face emojis after it? I got 16 likes and the local councillor replied to me. So yes, I won last night. And Spurs won. Yeah, what's your takeaways from the game? Have your opinions in any way changed about Thomas Frank? Jack, let's start with you. I mean, I think if you look at this in an Occam's Razor fashion, what changed about last night that we haven't seen for the majority of the season is a proper number nine playing at the top. Made a big difference, didn't he? Yeah, is a left-sided, well, a true left-sided option playing at left back. You know, Destiny Doggy, who is actually a brilliant player as well.

6:19Two of our better players on the evening until Solanke went off. And it sort of stands to reason that Spurs would look much better with two really crucial, especially Solanke up top, two really crucial parts of the pitch actually covered adequately, which I think I'm not, you know, I'm not fully rowing back on Frank or anything like that yet. I think he's, he's got a lot to answer for. He's got a lot of angry Facebook posts to, to respond to before he's back in the good books, but maybe it's, it's just, I think it's maybe given me that little bit of food for thought that perhaps, perhaps we haven't quite extended him enough understanding for the types of injuries that he has received.

7:01Because look, I know people, I know people are always going to make the comparisons between him and Ange. Ange didn't get this. Frank gets this. Frank got that. Ange didn't get this. I think, yes, on the fringes, there are always going to be people that argue about these managers and what they've been given and what they haven't been given. I think, as is true with most things in life, most people are just down the middle and they have an opinion that is pretty much in tally with the majority of people. that is, Ange did a good job and he could have probably done a better job had he had all of his players available to him.

7:37Frank, equally, probably could be doing a better job, but doesn't have all his players available to him either. Again, I'm not saying he's playing his hand in the best way, but maybe just a little bit has opened up the door for me thinking, actually you know what Madison's out Kulicewski's out Solanke's been out for the majority of the season a doggy can't stay fit you know that sort of does mean something doesn't it like dad's alright he didn't hit mum tonight he's alright maybe he's alright is that what you're saying Jack? a little bit yeah the belt stayed on yeah didn't take his belt they weren't drinking tonight was not done can I just ask before moving on to Mark and getting his thoughts.

8:28Where was you at before the game with Frank? Get rid of him. I believe you called him a wanker two days ago. I think it was an actual wanker. Spiteful wanker. Spiteful wanker. You called him a wanker? Like the most inoffensive man. The most inoffensive Premier League manager in the whole league, I think. But he's a spiteful wanker. he's like the most beige person in football the sort of biggest piece of hypocrisy about this is I've just been waxing lyrical about the effect of Dominic Solanke back in the team it's because you put Dominic Solanke back in the team I called him a spiteful wanker I was going to ask what was the context what can you possibly done to be a wanker drop and tell out right you thought it was spite out of spite that you did that I do wonder what impact that has on tell and whether or not he'll look for a move now because he would be rightfully miffed and before the game I was going and I said in the preview we did on Patreon that it's unfair on Tell given what he's he's been he's been by being a sort of basic seven out of ten but one of our standout players in recent games just because he doesn't hide and he's happy to receive the ball and he will try things whereas on the opposite you've got Odebeer who seemingly is unwilling to and will not try things and has a nervous energy about him that Tell doesn't have.

9:56So I thought it was kind of, if one had to go, it probably should have been Odebairn, not Tell. And then last night Tell was fantastic. He was excellent at times. When he ran at pace, someone said he was like watching Lennon light up down the right-hand wing. The set-up for the Solanke goal, goal in inverted commas, it was just the speed at which he was playing in. He goes, that's it. That's what people see. That's what, when when company spoke about him in, in, you know, refused to find the correct superlative to describe what kind of player he could be. It was that kind of performance and I'm not even the kind of skying the first shot, which threw the defender off and then him crossing for Romero with the sort of followup play.

10:43Even in that, it was, there was a kind of tenacity to get on the ball. And it was just that, that sort of went throughout the team. I was, i was really impressed with the performance and really it was more impressed less impressed it was more like thank fuck we've seen something that we can enjoy even if it's momentary and fleeting this season has been by and large 99 95 of it just horrendous like really really miserable and we've all been miserable for five years pretty much more or less anyway um gal do you think people have lost sight of that a little bit because i i sort of felt like among certain circles there was a bit of a almost disappointed air to last night that Spurs had actually because like you say over overwhelmingly for me the feeling was Spurs have won in the Champions League Spurs have beaten Dortmund again Spurs have fought that's quality like that's like let's not lose sight of what we're all doing here right like we support Tottenham Hotspur and yeah it doesn't mean we can't still have issues with Thomas Frank doesn't mean that you know you're somehow turning your back on Ange Postacoglu or whatever it is, whatever your motivation is for being angry about Spurs winning.

11:51Just enjoy that moment. Yeah. Sure. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's the point of being alive is you find the moments and enjoy them, not hate them when the good things come, because what do you think about this theory, Mark? Right. Yes. No, hang on. I haven't said the theory, have I? Oh, I thought you just wanted me to comment on what Jackson. I do want you to, and I have asked you about three questions and you haven't got a chance to answer them yet. Jack just jumped in. Yeah. Jack has jumped in, but he is the guess. He's just lost it. I'm not worried. Big ego. Big ego. Big ego. Listen, big air. Big cheeks.

12:24Right. He was given Borussia Dortmund when we thought he shouldn't have. And we said, what if he beats Dortmund? Well, he's going to get Burnley. And what if he beats Burnley? If he beats Burnley, he gets the season, I think. Right? Just because of the way Vinay operates and you're kind of looking for positives. And if it's a good win against Burnley, I think he gets the season. If he gets the season, he gets the summer. And if he gets the summer, you might as well at least give him October, November next year. And if he gets to October, November next year, give him another season as well. Yeah.

12:58Could this, could this, I know it's ridiculous, it's one game, but could this be the moment everything changes for Thomas Frank?

13:09Yeah, I mean, that's a big question, isn't it? I'll tell you what I did know is that it definitely plays into a lot of people's hands because the club clearly haven't got an interim lined up, right? Because otherwise they would have pulled the trigger. It would have been not a lot of effort for them. They wouldn't have lost very much by just pulling the trigger and putting the interim in and then looking towards, you know, the next permanent manager and so on. So I don't think they've got that worked out yet. So this does work out. And I think that will end up kind of having some important context in this conversation, less so what they think, you know, what fans think and so on.

13:47So I think it's, I mean, clearly it's bought in Burnley because they've come out and said that already. And if we get a good performance against Burnley, then yeah, I think you're right. I think it becomes about more than just the next game. It might be that he, you know, he has a little bit more credit in the bank and so on. But, you know, I think they're still, they're still going to press on with their work behind the scenes. I think they're still going to work I think what's changed potentially in the clubs in Vinay and Lange's mind is probably more, it's less now about an interim. They're probably, I think in the next game or two or three, they're going to make a reasonably quick decision on where they want to just keep them in.

14:28But I still think the summer will be the next big milestone. And if there isn't a huge improvement, and yeah, yesterday was a big improvement, but there's a ton of context. I think the Premier League is going to be the important one. The Premier League is what the managers kind of live and die by. The cup competitions are less important. I mean, Ange literally is a perfect example of that, you know, winning the Europa League and then get sacked because he finished 17th. So I think it's more a question of that interim phase rather than the long term. I think there's a huge amount, there's not a lot of risk.

15:03Like the season's gone, right? Like we're not, you know, we're in a de facto relegation fight, but we're not going to get relegated. I don't think so. So the season's gone. Like we're not going to win the Champions League. But so what are we gaining from putting an interim? And I think that will be their conversation. It's more about what's happening in the summer because that's a lot more long-term for them. That was a boring answer to your very funny. No, no, no. I think not at all. I think that there was a conversation we had, and John was quite sort of strong on it in the last episode, and we had like a mini argument, not an argument, back and forth about it, about him sort of suggesting that because it works at Arsenal and he gave Arteta time that he's a patient CEO and he will give Frank every opportunity.

15:58and moreover he's willing to look at the um situation that frank's in in terms of the injuries uh in terms of the the battleship analogy that has been given constantly that this is going to take a long time to turn around and if they are aligned on that then they will accept performances and results that um as fans we won't and we wouldn't we can't because our life and our experiences where our football club is game by game it's not six years down the line or five-year plan and if you're a ceo and you're you're having to run a football club with as many running moving parts as this and you're a manager having to deal with many many issues unforeseen and that there is directors of football and players leave it manages to leave it sorry chairman leaving and and sporting directors leaving all of that has a massive impact and are mitigating factors for failure and as fans we won't accept that and I don't think we should depression needs to be on constantly and the and it's not that there is no issues that the boo boo's ring out at wire lane as it currently stands when you've only won four in in a season or wherever it might be or four in a calendar year five now um so I guess my question to you uh Jack is is do you think that VNI is going to give him every opportunity to make this work or is he much more aligned if you had to guess with supporters who think his time's done and dusted and just to give you some color to that his current approval rating as we like to do every week last week it was 2.8 percent after West Ham it's gone up anyone like to guess how much percentage-wise it's gone up from 2.8 after West Ham to have a guess so is it out of 100 right yeah 100 it's a percentage right so it's 2.8 percent of uh 2.8 percent yeah that's how that's what we want him i was thinking like 2.8 out of 10 i was thinking like okay that's like but 2.8 percent is stark 2.8 people out of 100.

18:12Maybe 10%. No, not that much. No, near that much. Five? No, it's gone up to 3.1%. Wow. Oh my God. So it's barely moved. I don't believe in him. I don't believe he's going to get it right. I think he definitely needs to be sacked. That's how I feel. Although I feel less aggressive about it today than I did before kickoff yesterday. I'm exactly with you. I'm exactly with you. I think that's the general consensus. And I'm with you as well. It's just, for me, it's a question of timing, right? And it has to be less, and you said it just before, Flav, this is where we as fans think pretty much game to game and we're mostly all emotion, right?

18:54And that's fine. This is not a, well, actually, some of you do make money on this. But for other fans, for most fans, they don't make money on it. It's a hobby and so on. So it is almost purely emotional. So, you know, it's right to be emotional is what I'm trying to say. But you should kind of think about it slightly more pragmatically than that as well. Because if you just want him out now, like you are saying that that's a reset. And everyone in the club, all these people that work for the club, you know, on the pitch and behind the scenes and so on, are going to be thrown into a massive amount of upheaval at a stage in the season where we're 14th and it's a really bad atmosphere at home and all that kind of stuff.

19:41I do think even with a short-term kind of fan perspective that it needs to be done at the right time because it's not like, just because there's going to be an interim manager in there. It's almost like we're just trying to satisfy a little bit of bloodlust and just throw some red meat at a rabid dog just to kind of appease the dog a little bit. But that dog's still going to be rabid after it's eaten this quarter pounder. Like it's, do you know what I mean? Like I just don't know how much we're going to gain as a club from this immediate sack him right now if I can get rid of him. Because we've got, like, there's not a lot to really salvage apart from pride and so on.

20:22It's hard to know how much this stuff matters really. but I don't know if either of you seen the video of Frank walking around the pitch after, you know, final whistle yesterday, he was getting some pretty big and warm embraces from a number of the players. And I was, I was genuinely speaking, I was actually quite surprised. I made this, I did the, I made that point in one of our WhatsApp groups. There was, there was lots of, and he, players were initiating the hugs, you know, like the, you know, Doggy came over and gave him, Riccario came over and gave him a fucking massive bear hug. there was a lot of that um the the you know there was lots of pats on the back and like longer than just you know the kind of play for the camera eye contact the body language was there i i after west ham i was like nah fuck it like i literally said get rid of him right now because it didn't seem like the players were were were kind of they didn't give a shit it felt like they weren't playing for him anymore like i don't know it's such a cliche right but I don't know if playing for him it is important yeah no no it is but they were all with Ange and they were all with every manager you'd have to be some kind of fucking psycho to just like for him to win and just go nah like not embrace him you'd have to be a head case I don't know there's it's kind of the problem I've got with it and I don't know if this is real boys this is kind of how I feel it's like an us and them mentality right whereas you've been our VNC saying we want to bring everyone together but meanwhile you've got Pedro Porro doing the year signing to the crowd like how about that and and you know van der Ven mentioning that I'm trying to fight the fans and Spence walking off about you know it kind of feels like they and that that huddle together before going off for halftime will never quite understand what that's about and it just at this stage it feels a little bit like it's a less than them situation and I'm almost reluctant to say that because it's the last thing in the world you want and it might not even be true it's just i just do you know what though there are benefits to that like jose mourinho was always he was a he was a master of the siege mentality instilling that siege mentality into squads i'm not saying it's good that the that the players are fighting fans but it's certainly better in my opinion that the players feel unified at like feel as a unit than that they're fractured because when when they're fractured that like That's it.

22:48That's when managers get the sack, right? When they lose that kind of sense of a unit and they lose the face in the manager and all that kind of stuff. And I don't really, certainly after yesterday, after West Ham, I was not sure. After yesterday, and it's easier after a win, I get that. But after yesterday, to Jack's point, I saw a ton of unity. I saw them and the cameras also helped with this because they actually filmed them huddling before coming off at halftime. and also after there was lots of footage of these embraces and these kind of chats and so on. I also noticed Solanke and Solanke's interactions with the other players and how much he was kind of arms around shoulders.

23:29He was really showing that seniority, that leadership within the group, which is, again, also something we've missed massively. Danso and Byfield, there was lots and lots of these really positive, constructive little kind of interactions. And the key thing is obviously transferring all this into our Premier League kind of sphere and performances and getting a performance out of it. And, you know, Burnley on Saturday will be a key indicator. But it's actually something I thought as well. I do think there is something to, you know, because our record in Europe is pretty amazing, unbeaten in 24. Yeah.

24:12That's like amazing. We've conceded the least goals in the competition so far as well. Like we've been really, really good. And we're fourth. Yeah. We've conceded the least goals in the competition. Uh-huh. Which is insane. No, it makes sense. There is something to it. But so is there something, is there like, I don't know. Do we have some sort of mentality issue around the Premier League? Are the players too, like, are they fatigued with it? Is it, you know, is it too much pressure? Is it the home? Like what is it? It's the standards. It's so much higher. domestically across the board. It can't just be that though.

24:47Can't just be that because our drop-off is so stark. It can't just be that. It can't just be that. I generally think the Premier League is by a country mile the most difficult league to play in definitely in Europe. I think that most clubs in the Premier League could easily make the top, what's it called? Where are we? Is it top 24 in this? English. what'd you say English English English barely any of them are English that's a bloody fucking problem isn't it no fucking English owners no English players they're all fucking foreigners no managers no English managers ever won the Premier League nothing English about the English League let me tell you that Jack the no the I've lost my point there no so I think the standard I think the standard moreover the pace of the Premier League is better generally across the board than Champions League football, I think.

25:46And it worries me that Bayern Munich are the second favourites to Arsenal. Because I don't think they're that good either. They've already beaten them. They can't defend. No one in Germany can defend. Like if we don't beat Frankfurt, I think we're going to beat Frankfurt handedly next week. I think it's going to be 2-0, something like that. maybe 2-1 3-1 none of them can defend they just cannot defend you've seen the space that Harry Kane gets we don't want to play down these attributes like what a well class player he is he is so much better than that league he shouldn't be anywhere near it he should definitely still be playing in the Premier League he's lowered himself to play there anyway let's not take let's not labour that point too much because it means that the performance wasn't as good as we witnessed there may be a lot about that does it make you worry that Voskovic might be crap?

26:38it has crossed my mind I can't say it hasn't crossed my mind it has I don't know I'm just obsessed with the Twitter account which is just these two Croatian blokes just wanking him off constantly just go he's best he's the best defender he's got to go to Tottenham he's got to start what are you on about if Romero and Van de Ven are still there next season Vucevic doesn't start for Spurs maybe he should maybe give him an opportunity but I reckon Van de Ven will go anyway I think if we get good money for him we'll sell him that's my just throwing that one out there cheers Jack cheers we'll deal with that when it comes you talk about that on your podcast exactly keep that fucking heresy to yourself just intrusive thoughts isn't it you know they come out pour out you know

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30:31They want him to be the figurehead of the project. So maybe Spurs will cut their losses. Paris Saint-Germain? No, no. Paris FC. Paris FC. I never even heard of them. They want to sign Matissell, do they? Yeah. I think they've had a big takeover and they want him to be the face of the club. The new era that the club's entering into. This is all hearsay. Do you know what I mean? This is all stuff that you see on Twitter. But I just wonder if there is any truth to that, if they offer us a sizable amount of money, if Spurs will just cut their losses and let them go. What would you say? If it was, what kind of money would you be willing to accept, Jay?

31:12What are we buying for? 35? Yeah. I mean, once conditions are met and stuff, 35 million euros. I don't know. 50, 60? I think we will take 50 or 60 probably but we probably shouldn't this is the thing but then selling is important anyway there's a couple things I want to talk about I want to talk about Solanke's goal I want to talk about Byfield making his debut as well but before that just want to get your thoughts on this before we this will be the last bit of Thomas Frank talk but this is from where's my spacebar 2 on Reddit he says if anything this game shows why Frank needs to be sacked ASAP everyone's saying that Frank should be excused because he we have no players that are technically or technical or can pass the ball no players that can press hard and hold on to the ball etc that first half was fucking electric we can very clearly play an amazing style of football we have a young team that are good at it only thing missing is a manager who knows that knows that style and can improve the team around it and uh the coldest says sack him that second half is what Thomas ranked ball is about not being able to get the third goal on the 10-man side that tells you everything.

32:27Actually, I don't even need your thoughts and opinions on that. I feel like we've covered it. I probably shouldn't even read them out. I feel like that's been unfair as well, personally. I thought we were good in the second half. I thought we created chances that players on the pitch were just sort of profligate with them. That's my opinion. I'll tell you what, it wasn't profligate. Sorry, go on. No, no, no, go on. I was just going to, it's fine. I was just going to be annoyed. It's fine. I'll tell you what wasn't profligate. Solanke's goal. It was, when at first I was like, oh my God, what's he done there?

33:02And I thought he's back healed it. He's back healed it. He's turned it into the corner on the net. I was like, get in, Dom. He's back. He's fucking back. And I watched it and I'm going, you shouldn't be celebrating that. And you know, I, there was a bit where he was like laughing and I'm thinking, oh he's laughing because it was such a terrible goal and he didn't mean to score it nah that was his planned celebration it was an anime sort of fucking I don't know his favourite anime apparently his favourite anime when he's holding his mouth and celebrating no it's a genuine celebration you're claiming that one are you you're claiming that one you've done I mean I don't want to be arsed on the man he's he's just back from a terrible long injury and it is a goal but yeah it was a bit like I thought we were laughing because the goal was so shit that's what I thought Does the anime stuff rattle you, Gal?

33:50Yeah. Of course it does. Look at me. I'm the demographic rattled by that sort of stuff. I'm pink. I'm not even white anymore. I'm pink. I'm 44-year-old. I'm pink. Slightly overweight and I live in the West Country. Of course it rails me. Just scrolling through Instagram. He's only played one game in a season. He's putting cartoons on Instagram. What are you fucking doing? Grow up. He's just had a baby. Grow up. You've got a baby. You might have a second baby. Mate, he could be Tommy Robinson if he was scoring goals for Spurs. I wouldn't mind do you know what I mean it's like you've got to be you've got to be in it to win it Gal you've got to be in the right in the right position they all count I think it's his first the guy's first ever Champions League goal Matt no I'm not being genuinely disparaging of him I feel like Grail's well happy for him I don't genuinely have an issue with the anime stuff let me be clear I can make a joke nice one Jack no one thinks I'm properly you know against all that Jack's a plant she's here to just rabble rouser was he made a big difference didn't he massive difference he just held up the ball and I'm excited to have him back and up to speed and just shows you how much we missed him and how important he is Byfield's debut he came on the pitch he's 17 years old didn't he that is a man he is a man the problem with Williams Barnett and Jamie Donnelly when they played is they looked like slowly, slightly below the pace, but also physically so challenging for them because they just don't have the meat on the bones.