S15E64 - Kin Hell

36:20and then Joel kind of stepped in from behind the scenes and then Joel went away and then it was like, oh, let's go after one day Ramos because he'd won a couple of UEFA cups and then it was two points from eight games. Harry will keep us up and then he got us sort of up so far and it just goes one after the other after the other and the one that they put lots of thought into and they're planning on backing, like your AVB, for example, like he's going to be the uh savior it doesn't work and then potch ends up being your man who's like done lots of people weren't really happy to have potch at the time he was he was at south hampton he's come in he's he's ended up doing the job it's gone away it's like marino will be your man whenever he's allowed he's asked to really think it out and make a decision he cocks it up and then he'll make a complete U-turn, do something to save the situation.

37:22Something will be flourishing, but it just would irk him. He wouldn't like that. That was the guy and he's doing it. So let's give him the chop and let's go for someone else. It's just mismanagement. Through that period where we had the opportunity from a position of strength to get stronger. And as you were talking there, Sean, I was thinking about Harry Redknapp, that season where we were third at Christmas and he brought in Luis Aja and Ryan Nelson. And then you think of the team we had under Pochettino, which required two big players and we would have won the league. If we would have improved that squad with two proper big signings, and it might have really hamstrung us financially, he just wasn't willing to do it.

38:13We went two windows without signing a player. And the fallout to that in the long run destroyed Potch, destroyed our faith in Potch, which is even worse. And this sort of ludicrous run to the Champions League final, which you will never see again. People think like Spurs were breaking and falling apart in that season. They were 100 % right. That squad was falling apart. And you look at that Champions League run. We had no right to get to the final. We should have been out in the group stages. We lost our first two matches in the group stages. I think, or we may have drawn one. We had to go to the Nou Camp and get a point just to get out of the group stages.

38:50Somehow did it. We beat Dortmund convincingly. Then we had Ajax. And you're like, we should have been out of that. That was ridiculous what we did to Ajax. Sorry, sorry, Manchester City. It was ridiculous what we did to Manchester City. I don't even think that goal, I think Sterling, he didn't, it got ruled out for something. It was Aguero offside. Right. And he was offside. Okay. all right fair enough all right you're ruining my point but i i understand truth is important but but it was a mental game right those games don't happen again and i access another another one and what all that did in the most sort of horrible cliched way was paper over what the issues were was that the damage had been done two seasons before or or the season before where we didn't sign anyone and yes at the time and i've said it on this podcast at the time well they're of mitigating circumstances i really understand to some degree why people got so wound up with me like people like over enoch out and they would listen to this podcast and they go this fucking geez i can't get leave his cock out of his mouth and it weren't that all right i didn't i never did that but the the the point is is there were a lot of people predicting this being an issue and it has turned out to be an issue and what we're probably suffering from now is the indecision the lack of ambition and the restrictive wage structure that daniel levy put in place um and so all of this is probably his fault still and he will look at it and probably and think i walked away from that and uh you know look what's happened but he'd be incorrect in my opinion um there was a couple of other times that we could have we could have really pushed on but i can't remember what the others others were now but it was always this reason why there's also there's always something going on and then there's a spurs in terms of spurs as well it's like like we got harry redknapp he seems happy and he's like and you know like he wants the england job and then he's fucking being charged with tax fraud and you're like what the fuck is going on with this football club if he's arsenal it's just plain sailing everything's all right i think he's a lego head and he's a bit of a wanker everything's fine for them in ours we've got fucking tax fraud we've got dogs being named in bank accounts you got fucking contes setting fire to the football club you got Mourinho talking about pillows it's like why can't we just be a normal football club and and we won't be until it comes from strong leadership and in the culture which is what you was talking about earlier Sean which means that we have to behave in in in a way that is uh aligned with a successful football club and it isn't just Pochettino it's everything it's We all have that dream trip we've been wishing we could go on, but too often life, or usually price, gets in the way.

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43:25So you can't believe everything you read. But the general consensus is that there are perhaps people in the Lewis family making an extended family, making footballing decisions and circumnavigating the obstacle of Vina Venkatesem and Lange. And that's an issue. There's no cohesion between the CEO, the sporting director and the owners. And if there is no cohesion, we can never get out of this mess which means non-footballing people have to make really important footballing decisions if they don't believe in vino van kiteshman langer they have to replace them they don't have the fat the grounding to understand what they're trying to put in place if they don't want like i know there's this report coming out that that they they're using a agency to find the next director of football what is fucking going on but this this is where it goes wrong mate right it's like if if now flab you were like right i want to put on uh some battles some rap battles at a fighting cock show right and you've got sean and tony d and people like that in your circle that are experts in that area know and live and breathe that area right and you went rather than talk to them i'll go out to a random agency and i'll see if bristol exactly i'll ask alex from bristol and see if he can sort out for me i've got some really simple advice for the owners of the football club bring back david pleat go and speak to glenn hoddle like go and speak to people who have been in the if you don't want to hire him just talk to harry redknapp for an afternoon and go like where do you think we're going wrong speak to 20 people who have been involved in the club over the years that are that have a love and a loyalty speak to ledley king speak to michael dawson germain defoe some of the like more recent players speak to harry kane what what went wrong why did you want to leave what did you feel that we failed start speaking to people who know about football right so that you can at least go okay out of the 20 people that we spoke to 18 of them said this was a major problem let's see if we can address that or if we're going to hire someone who's going to come in as director of football or our next ceo they need to be strong in that area because that's an area of weakness i just don't understand this like just stubborn an unwillingness to talk to people who know about football and who know and care about Tottenham Hotspur.

45:42I don't understand what the problem is. Like, Levy fired David Pley, who was basically like on a nothing salary, just sort of an ambassador to the club, who'd occasionally go, oh, by the way, there's Dele Alli down the road. You might want to sign him for five million. He might be one of the best players you've ever had. Just see you later, right? Getting rid of people like that because of quote-unquote data, and we've got analysts now, we don't need that, is that sort of hubris that's got us into this mess. Go back to those people and say, look, we want to welcome you back into the club. We want to find a way to get you involved.

46:15We want to hear what you've got to say. We want to feel the history of the club again in this club. Please come back and talk to us. That would be a start, right? They would at least have some understanding of what's going on. Talk to the trust. Talk to some fan group. Actually listen to those people. And if they did that, then they would come to the conclusion that the people that they've got in decisions of power are not the right people. Like, Vinay needs to go. Like, I know we spoke on my pod a little while back, and we spoke on here before about, in his position, you know, maybe he needs more time, it's bigger than that, blah, blah, blah.

46:47I actually think, like, in this specific scenario, he has to go. Like, I think the ex-Arsenal thing is actually a problem for us. Just from an optics point of view, it's a big issue. And I also think that he's been terrible. Like, every single decision he's making, or actually the lack of decisions he's making is having a material impact. We don't need a director for, we're not signing anyone now, so Langer can go as well. So they should just get on with this and start having these conversations because whether we stay up or go down, this cultural reset's got to happen, mate. It does. Cultural reset does have to happen.

47:22But you need someone who understands the game to make those decisions and set that culture, set that new culture. you can't come from Dan Bulcher or whatever his name is and that's what if you remove Langer and Vinkertesham that's what will happen unless they can employ someone who is able to do that from the ground up I think a stop gap for this and I keep banging this drum would be Pochettino because he could I'm not necessarily go out and sign players but set that culture the problem is it's about it's a bit arse about face because it shouldn't be him it should be it should be a director if you're going to have a director of football which will big clubs have these days then it it should be that person hiring the net manager based on the culture and the direction of football and the direction of the football club as defined by him or her so it's a it we are in a fucking mess i mean i think really i think um i think peratity game was probably bigger than we thought but um i don't know let me just quickly um remind you about something more important than all this and That's the fact that The Fine Cock is sponsored by NordVPN.

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49:53yeah yeah see that's it that energy is what I need Van de Ven said said this after the game it's just really difficult we have an important match this weekend that I can't attend because I'm suspended of course but it's truly terrible time how am I feeling mentally it's tough I can tell you really tough I have to keep this going this is life I have to keep going this is life Van Aven is completely shut out by the fans' reactions on social media. I'm not on my phone anymore. I'm completely done with it. Only family and stuff. On the match, he said, terrible, to be honest, doomsday scenario. Everything that could go wrong in the first 20 minutes went wrong.

50:32On the state of the pitch, he says, everyone slips, including me. Those moments you simply can't do anything about it. I can't hardly stand here and start blaming the pitch. And on Kinski, he says it's terrible for him too. He's making his debut. You wouldn't wish this on anyone.

50:48you know that thing about the social media i've been hearing quite a lot about how abusive and how bad it's been and you can understand why because this is the hardest most difficult period of supporting spurs that all of us have experienced probably ever i would say i think i would say this moment is this team at this moment the direction of travel i don't know if you boys can in any way sort of contradict what i'm saying it feels like it's the worst do you can you remember a period as bad as this sean ever are you talking about football in like tottenham or are you talking about social media no so i'm going to come onto social media but no the no the football at spurs like you know how bad it's been where we're heading the kind of yeah 100 it's the it's the word it's you know we've as fans lived a rocky road and we're a weathered bunch like you know i just think that i think that the likes of like arsenal fans chelsea fans all these all these if they went through half of what we went through they'd they'd really and they have like i mean we saw when arsel went down to eighth and it was all like wenger out and all this and then well sorry that was before they went to eighth and it's like we just saw how toxic they got with relatively not they know nowhere near as bad as what we've been through but we feel like we've seen it all and it is like it's that mick mccarthy like it can't get worse than this it can like it's it's like no one thought it can but it is right now like so everything else every spursy thing man city coming back from you know from three nil down at white art lane when they were down to 10 men you know all these things that we thought only happened to us they only happened to us we've we've surely we've completed the book and then i'm still sending text messages out to people after 20 minutes going this only happens to us it's you know this this doesn't happen to anybody else and um and it does and we're just in this state i said oblivion last time and that is where we are like it's there is we're going in one direction and we're going there really really fast and it's yeah it's thought it couldn't it can't get worse than this surely like we're there now we've we've basically hit rock bottom and then started digging just to see how far we can go further down I thought we'd seen the worst of it this season I thought it can't get any worse it can't get any worse like it's been really bad this season it's like everything everything's bad like last night I'm watching it on the TV I think it was about 3-0 maybe 4-0 somewhere within that like 4 minute window and I'm there and I've got the headphones on because the missus will be doing something else in the room but I'm watching it on the tv and she's like oh I think I'm gonna go to bed and I'm like ah this is going off in a minute and she's like oh so I could watch Bridgerton and I'm like no no no no I was joking so but then I did step up and started frying darts while the game was on so I was like half watching it and I was just like god this is so hard to enjoy I have to like do something else while I'm watching it.

54:23Mate, we were down to four. Four one it was. And then it went down to five one. It was five one, wasn't it? And then we pulled one back. I went and started making dinner because I hadn't eaten. And I'm like, I'm hungry. Am I going to sit and watch this? Is it going to make me feel terrible? Or should I do something for myself and actually put food in my body? And that's what I did. I went in. I was halfway through a veggie burger. And I heard Solanke scored. And I walked in and looked at my missus. And she looked at me as if it's, is this good? Because Spurs have scored. This must be good. Are you a bit happier?

54:59And obviously, I was kind of dismissive. I don't watch the goal go in. Like, big up, Solanke. We needed that. We're still in the tie, but I just didn't have any time. I just fucking was done with it. It's my missus' birthday. It's my missus' birthday, right? And I usually go and watch it with me, old man. And patrons of the fighting cult where we realised that me and my step-mum had a bit of a set-toe. She's 74. I shouldn't be having set-toes, my 74-year-old step-mum. But she had to be told. You know, the worst part of this week might not have been, actually, Atletico Madrid losing there. It was almost certainly the Crystal Palace game, that 10-minute period.

55:42And I've said this before, but my step-mum was saying, you won't go down. You won't go down. Of course you won't go down. and I'm like, I know she's being nice. I can't deal with this because you don't know that we, I know we could go down. You don't know. You don't know, right? But she's 74. So I've got to hold that inside. I've got to hold it inside. I'm not going to have a go at my 74 year old mum. That'd be terrible. Terrible to do that. She's 74. I've not had that with my step mum, but I've had that with so many people the last month or so. You know, I walk in the old sailors and they all know I'm Tottenham and whatever.

56:21And it'd be like, we're talking going back four weeks and they're like, Sean, do you reckon Tottenham could get sucked into it? Sucked into it? I was like, bloody hell, we've been spat out the other side. They're like, no, no, you won't go. I'm like, mate, we are gone. That conversation fast, ages ago. They may know about football, right? My step-mum don't know fucking nothing about football. I said this before, we were getting done on the counter-attack the other day against Fulham and my step-mom was banging on about the curtain she just made. And I'm like, I can't deal with these two conversations.

56:58They're separate things. Anyway, that's what Tottenham's done to us. What was the reason why I was asking if this was the darkest time? About Van de Ven saying he's coming off social media. Nice one. I think it felt like you were waiting for us to get back to that, John, because you've got something to say. I have it on good authority that the players are... some of the players are, they're just really struggling with how much abuse they're receiving. And on a human level, at some point, that will get to them. Like you heard Van de Ven say there, I just don't deal with it anymore. I can't, like, we are fans and our job is to support the team as much as we can.

57:40We're going to get frustrated as we all do. But this abuse that they're receiving online is getting through and they're reacting to it and it's it's got to stop right and it's not just abuse of their it's personal abuse of like the black players are receiving racist abuse constantly because we're shit that's not acceptable and it has an impact so you you think you you you're struggling to deal with this shit right you're struggling to deal with how bad it is and you think i'm you know what i'm just gonna fire off a cheap tweet to jed spencer or a doggy whoever it might be and you think that they're not hearing it and they're not receiving it and they're not thinking this you know this fan base does not care about me and it creates this division that we find ourselves in we've got if you listen to this if you've ever done that don't be a cunt stop being a cunt and abusing the players i get if you're angry but don't fucking attack the way they look or the color of their skin or don't call fucking van der reyn a lanky beanpole don't do that it's going affect his mentality do you regret sending that to him then yeah i do apologize i want to apologize to you van then you're not a lanky beanpole you're a beautiful man um but the social media thing is is an issue the fact that he's not looking at his phone brendan johnson is is is has got rid of social media dejan kulusevsky if you believe reports has locked comments on all of his social media like what are we doing here why are we doing it look are anyone like you said anyone who's sending abuse to anyone or not even just on social media just abusing people for you know immutable characteristics or otherwise wilt if they did it if the jess fence came up to you or van der vink came up to you you would fucking wilt like a flower of course so look can we just like accept the fact that we're not like saying that that's okay right we agree that that's a really fucking bad thing to do.

59:32Pause. Next thing I'm going to say is this, and I don't want to go down the whole like victim blaming thing, right? But there is another way to look at this stuff, which is there are certain risks associated to certain things, which is nobody should go to bed at night and expect to be burgled, right? But we still lock our doors, don't we? Right? Because we know there are bad people out there doing bad things. I'm surprised that professional footballers have social media at all. Yeah. I'm surprised because nothing good will come from that. you're in the public eye unfortunately although we all agree nobody should be sending them horrible stuff we know they're going to you know they're going to even when even when teams are winning every game they're getting abused by people there's racist lunatics out there sending all sorts of mad shit right so again i don't want to go down this room with like oh but they're victims you're blaming them like yeah i hear that it's not ideal but there's also a world where you just have to be realistic about this stuff if you're in the public eye social media isn't like social media for us it just isn't right which is why they are compensated handsomely for being professional footballers they get paid fortunes and again that doesn't mean it gives anyone a right to abuse them but there are look there's certain level of like if you want to protect yourself you're gonna have to if you're if you're a black footballer it's fine if you're receiving racist abuse is that what you're saying do you think that's what i'm saying i don't think that's what sorry that was horrendous of me sorry yeah it was awful so so and this is my point we all lock our doors right we all lock our doors we shouldn't have to you shouldn't have to do that but we do right so it's the same thing social media if you're a professional footballer lock your door because there's going to be people out there and that sort of the tone of is basically going that's one of the reasons why we've been so shit is basically sort of victim blaming the normal fans who aren't abusing you like we're also collectively responsible for idiots who also happen to support the same football club as being responsible and that to me like sort of winds me up because i'm like you lot get paid millions of pounds to be abused we get abused for free in fact we're paying into this football club and we're getting abused in the street i was literally walking down the road from my house back from the gym with a Spurs top on, and someone called me a YC.

1:01:58Yeah? Really? Yeah. Just walking along. And I went, yeah, cheers, mate. Come on, you Spurs. I just had to take it on the chin. I pay basically into the club, essentially, to support the club. I'm getting abused. And I'm sure lots of other people get all sorts of varying degrees of shit. There are people spending hundreds of thousands of pounds to go and watch that shit yesterday. And they're not getting nothing. They're just not regular people on regular wages in a cost of living crisis. What about them? I'm sorry. I'm going to find it quite difficult to feel sorry for players who choose to be on social media and then cry about getting abused on that.

1:02:35Don't be on there then. And I know that's a harsh reality, but it's the same way as like if you don't lock your door and you get burgled, I don't feel as sorry for you as someone who does lock their door and gets burgled. Soz. It's just how I feel. I mean, that's fine if you feel that way, John. This is going to come back to bite me, isn't it? I don't agree, but it's up to you. I actually quite like Andy Aloko, but...

1:03:05I think he's all right.

1:03:10Just a couple of things we've got to talk about beforehand. Igor Trudeau hasn't been sacked. should he be sacked quickly boys um he's definitely gonna take the according to ali gold the presser on friday which means he's doing the liverpool game should should would you fire him now sean yeah i'd never have been never have employed him in the first place um absolutely out there's there you know we're not we're not sport with options yeah i was oh yeah i was looking In the WhatsApp group earlier, it was like, oh, we were saying, I think Sean Dyche was two to one on. I'd have him. I don't know if he would take the job.

1:03:53Roll the Dyche. Someone else said that in our WhatsApp after you said that today as well, yeah. I didn't come up. It's your unoriginal at all. Kidell. Kidell. No, 100%, yes. He should have gone this morning. Yeah, I agree. John? Same. yeah I'm slightly different to Sean in the sense that I when he got hired I was like okay yeah I see this I hope it works let's let's get on board with this he's the hardest manager in the prem this is great he'll smash him up but what we've realized is these babies they don't respond they just don't respond to that like they just don't so what they need is like you know an arm around the shoulder someone to to gm up and that's not him so yeah I would also sack him and we need to bring someone in pretty quickly that fits that profile I wanted Harry Redknapp looks like he's A, at Cheltenham, B, in the jungle, and C, possibly the 100 years old.

1:04:44What do you mean in the jungle? He's going into Celebrity Jungle, isn't he? Is he really? Yeah, I think so. But then someone told me they'd already filmed it and that they'd just announced it. And I'm like, that doesn't sound right because I'm sure it goes out live. Yeah, it does go out live. Unless the whole thing is a farce. But also, can you just imagine if he's managing – so Defoe's on the touchline and he's like, you know, sometimes when they put the managers in the stands or they're banned from the game and they're in a hotel room on the phone and like the phone's got a like little headset and harry harry's in the jungle with his dingo dollars like paying in just like bringing up jermaine just going how are we getting on boy and then just trying to manage the club from the jungle because it'd be box office if nothing else just explain something to me because i don't know about these things i don't watch the jungle i don't understand why anybody what's a fucking jungle but what is is it about to happen is the jungle starting again and they're doing that the last the last time they did a celebrity one of the jungle was pre-recorded i only remember that because um one of my mates was touring with diversity and that jordan banjo was on it and he had to keep it a secret so all of them are celebrity well it's it's like an all-stars yeah all-stars right so he's already been in this is what someone told me because i was like oh i hope he gets a job and then someone was like wow he's going into the jungle and then someone replied back going well they've already recorded it so he's available so it depends if you know it's so spursy it's so fucking spursy we're trying to help whether the jungle is pre-recorded in case you can sign the manager what are we doing it's kind of talking about liverpool away in it yeah i think if he does don't worry there's plenty of content on that if he does get the job if he does get the job then he should go on Mars Singer as like some weird inanimate object and then announce that he's you know Spurs wants they unveil him on Mars Singer just to like add an extra land so so the savior of Tottenham there are two issues he can't come because Cheltenham's on yeah and secondly secondly he might or might not be in the jungle I can't believe this and I really can't and the other thing I wanted to say was Van der Ven lucky boy not to get a red card in the Premier League hundreds of years they were going they were supposed to be more stringent in Europe they're even like more of a sort of I don't know woke about challenges I think that's is that right they are quite like there's a low bar for a red card in Europe and a handball and stuff easiest red card I can't believe it it wasn't a red card it's the easiest red card I've seen for like years is like normally I'm always like oh the game's gone like that's never you know in the real world that's never he's literally off the ground both feet off the floor and smashed him the ball's nowhere to be seen he's not in control and he smashed him shin high that is worse than Romero's one that's what like that is one of the worst tackles I've seen for ages if the plant I don't know if it was that he fell but if he didn't get his foot off the ground and he planted his foot but it broke his leg in two pieces, like 100%.

1:07:50It was an awful tackle. I genuinely think the ref felt sorry for us in the situation that we're in. You're in a situation where Kinski's getting clapped off by their fans. It happens quite often in games where it's like... Gallagher's up, you know what? Yeah, if a bad challenge goes in in the 93rd minute and the game's done and dusted, a lot of the time the ref will kind of just not give it or whatever. I just think that if that game was Champions League, semi-final second leg and it's 2-2 and it's 80th minute and it's real like prime time he's giving that he doesn't think it was just a bit of a silly game the way it had gone and he kind of took pity on it and didn't send him up mate spot on because did you see that guy you know it was an unserious game because there was a guy just before half time chopping up a charcuterie board what was that about what was that i know i know they love a bit of fucking come on but that was mental, mate.

1:08:44Yeah, they love a bit of jamon over there, don't they? Which is a really expensive sort of leg of... Yeah, and slice it real thin, lovely. Pig? Yeah, yeah, a little bit of pig, a little ball or something. Yeah, what the fuck has gone wrong with football where there's a man making... Who is he making the sandwiches for? But it was just like... He was just looking over going, ah, this is alright. I could do the analysis for the second half. There's no point. I'd just start slicing up this jamon and getting this ready for the lads. They'll love that. Lovely sandwiches. Yeah. And the final thing is i forgot i don't know where end on this but um uh romero and and paladina are now out for 10 days at least with concussion protocol uh so they're gonna miss both games so is that confirmed they got taken because i'm not because no but it happened with trossard when trossard faked his head injury at wolves away and he went off and he they got the concussion sub so he went off and then he played us.

1:09:40So again, Tottenham are on the raw end of it, but it's because they were able to prove that he didn't have concussion. But our boys looked like they had both had concussion. Yeah, I mean, Romero nearly collapsed on the centre-cycle, so he's definitely an issue. And Paulinia went off. I hope not. But by the same token, I don't want them, if they're fucked, I don't want them to play, obviously. Yeah, I'm hoping... I think this is good that we did this last because it was exactly like in the game where you thought, okay, fucking hell, we're through this now. Move on to the next game. And then out of nowhere, Romero just comes climbing over the top and just smashes one in.

1:10:16So I'm thinking if we all simultaneously just smash our heads into our laptops, maybe we'll get a concussion and we don't need to record anymore. Or maybe I'll just run into front of a fucking truck. Take in a VECO exit and just get out. Just go. Just bang, go. It's all over. All the pain's finished. I want to be obliterated. Not just, oh, I've hit my head. Oh, I've hit my head. I might be dead I might not definitely I want to be matter I want matter all over the a fucking Jackson Pollock all over the M25 oh a splat beautiful um I don't mean that at all I want to see us get better again and live that joyous experience maybe one day um so yeah the uh we will be doing a preview for the Liverpool game but we might as well forfeit if we if we actually don't turn up we lose 3-0 that's all that happens that's alright yeah otherwise if we do turn up and do the honourable thing we line up against Liverpool at Anfield without Romero Van der Ven Paulinha I don't think Dragunsen can play either I don't know I might be wrong there even if he does play it's like having 10 players anyway isn't it so 3-0 loss sounds like a net win boys would you genuinely take a 3-0 loss I wouldn't because it sounds But I'm not far off.

1:11:39But yeah, I was talking to the missus about it. I was like, oh, you know, I'm going to take Little and Up and watch it. She's like, hang on, Mother's Day on Sunday. Oh, fuck. I was like, I said, do you know what? For you. Because I love you so much. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, we're making other plans. Oh, good for you, mate. I forgot it was Mother's Day on Sunday. When you said that, I had a horrible panic because I haven't sorted anything out for my mum and my wife of two children. I've also got to sort it out. So if I didn't do this for a living, although obviously I've got nine games before this isn't my living anymore, then I'd probably have to do something with my mum and my wife.

1:12:25Anyway, love you, boys. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing this hour and nine minutes with me. one day eventually it will all be okay sometimes when i was having panic attacks about my house i'd wake up at four o 'clock in the morning blind panic how's this gonna happen i'd breathe and go everything is gonna be okay i'm sort of worked out so there's something in that all right take care boys bye love you boys See ya.

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