S15E85 - Is Optimism Back on the Menu?

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0:36the fight cock carries on it's the summer because there's shit loads to talk about yeah boy after fucking everyone I know after everyone are we Ricky it's getting everyone got two for the door running we I know Jesus Christ will we just stop signing people yeah I mean more more more all of them what do you think about Andy Robinson and St. Nisi's signing? I think they're good. Really good signings, to be fair. I think the signing of Robertson is, you know, we have spoken across the season about leadership, about lack of characters, personality, winners, know-how. He's been there. He's done it all.

1:32and then some when we were linked on the 23rd of January 2026 I sent a message to my mate who's a Liverpool fan Chris Pajak oh yeah yeah and I said is there any world where this Robinson deal is good for Spurs and he said I love him mate he's not the player of two or three years ago but obviously but I don't think he's finished I reckon he'll be good for 30 to 35 games a season just not 50 plus he's also a fucking winner great in the dressing room you'll love him mate I'm genuinely good oh yeah people say his legs are gone they're wrong not lost a yard yet but not all not the all action Duracell bunny he was either so is that good that sounds good yeah I mean Udogi he has about the same amount of games in him a season yeah it's just it's frustrating because there's a player there and when he plays you really notice it but you just can't go keep going on through seasons after season without good cover for him because you know he is going to get injured and even if he's if even if it's not for for that he's injured that he does you know if you're playing in a demanding role like he is where he's expected to get up and down the pitch you're going to need to sub him off in the second half And without anyone, like a natural left-sided player that will still kind of hold that line and hold that width.

3:02And like Spencer's done a fantastic job coming in and playing at left back. He really has. And I can't knock him. But we do lose that width and those overlapping runs when we don't have a natural sided left fullback there. so and like we've already said about all this all the kind of um traits that robertson has he will be most welcome in the dressing room most welcome yeah man there's a lot going on what do you believe do you believe the um what did no what did you make of the statements that came out obviously peter chariton put out a statement pretty much saying yeah we need to fix everything we know everything's gone tits up yeah um and uh yeah we're gonna make everything better and the Lewis family put it out and said yeah the problems were deeper than before but we're going to fix this we're going to throw loads of money out of it reportedly there's a sum of money that's been allocated with to be able to spend before player sales sales are taken into account typically under Daniel Levy would have we would have looked to raise that money before spending it yeah whereas uh the Lewis family have maybe it's that 100 million they injected in that's now available to spend.

4:14I don't know. I don't know how we can spend$150 million now where under Daniel Levy, we couldn't spend$150 million. I don't know what has changed. But the thing I like about it, and I don't think you agree with me, because in the groups, none of you agree with me. But I think that the statements are important because they're putting on account their attention to change the way the club operates. Whereas Daniel Levy didn't even speak, apart from one or two letters to the fans a year, which was a load of bollocks and non-committal. It was generally explaining, look at all the good stuff we've done this year, despite everyone feeling horrible about the club.

5:03They're saying, no, this has to change, and these are the things we're going to do. If then, in a year, they don't happen, then you have something to go you said you were going to do it and you haven't done it so that then enables thousands of people to mobilize because there's a clear problem there you said you were going to do something and you haven't done it therefore the protest would be meaningful rather than this general sort of anti-Daniel Levy anti-Yenick message where most people weren't able to get on board with bar a couple of this um bar a couple of times where a few thousand turned up it's almost like you've made a commitment to do something now so let's see it and that is important they could have said nothing at all and then there'd be nothing to get behind other than a general dis disenchantment with the way things are going or they may actually say what they're going to do and do what they say both of those things are those things are positive from where we've been previously that's where i was getting at the other state right i gave up Sure.

6:09But you can't really, after a second season finishing 17th, and literally on the brink of being relegated, not come out and communicate after that. Yeah, right. Correct. Right. You just have to, no matter, even if it's platitudes or whatever. And yeah, Charrington and the Lewis family are going to be singing from the same hymn sheet. uh they're going to have obviously their comms are going to align on what they're saying maybe slightly different slightly different roles whatever but it's time to kind of um you know put up or shut up really we've i mean you know you know the 100 100 mil cash injection or something like that did did the club i can't even remember now did the club communicate that that's what they had available or was it just a bit hearsay or or it was published in some finances or something like that.

7:09There was an official statement. I think they have to when that much money is injected. There was an official statement of 100 million has been put in by the owners into the club. It wasn't like, here's 100 million for transfers. It might have been 100 million to play off what we already owe. It's just cash in the bank, basically. Obviously, as fans, we're just like, that's 100 million we're going to spend on transfers, but it probably wasn't that. Okay, so they didn't come out and say, we've got 100 mil cash injection and it is no directly for transfers no it's just a statement to the shareholders and business that this has happened it's not it wasn't like here's 100 million for a war chest right okay but but by the same token if it was used because we owe tons of money out up front so sorry tons and tons of money to on players we've already bought yeah like massive amounts to hundreds of millions of pounds on players that we already own that we still owe to other clubs similar to most clubs actually most clubs have that like many west dam have about 190 million pound owed to other football clubs right now shit spurs is about 270 something like that i can't remember ben better chelsea's is like you can imagine how big it's not uncommon to do that but you have to service those debts so say that 100 million pound was put into paying debts owed to other clubs that's still effectively money that we eventually get to spend in a transfer market because that that it means we don't remove money in the future from having to have to pay for these debts you know i mean yeah yeah so yeah yeah or maybe it was used for 100 the 100 million maybe it is now what we're seeing if players come through the door if Savinia is bought for 50 million.

8:55Maybe that's part of it. Maybe it was the Satisfied PS5. There wasn't clear communication. That was what it was. Yeah. I mean, I kind of feel like that the statements were... They absolutely had to come out and say something because it was just an abomination of a season. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. So do you not take them on face value or do you just simply not believe them, which is absolutely fair? Yeah, I kind of, I mean, the camp at the moment is of I don't believe them because there has been no reason for me to believe that they are going to fulfill that.

9:40And I do think it's interesting that it's kind of like we, we as in the Lewis family, Chankton, didn't understand or know the kind of the depths of how bad things were going or how bad the club was being run. You know, I don't think they said how bad the club was being run, but maybe that it was more focused. The depth of the problems we were unaware of, that kind of thing. Yeah. Now, maybe that might be a bit of a PR spin, something to hide behind. It wasn't us. It was him. Wink, wink. Don't get on our back. You know how bad the last tenant was. Sorry, the last landlord. But I just, I can't get behind anything until I see proper change, if that makes sense.

10:34Yeah, I think that's fair. And like, it's, you know, the Robertson deal, we could go, well, we've got someone in through the door ready. I'm already like, well, that was kind of tied up in January, wasn't it? And that was even when Frank was about. so and then who's the other player we got? Sanisi right okay and again that's free transfer yeah this is a player was courted by Liverpool and Chelsea yeah yeah yeah and it's amazing that he's coming to us fuck knows why God knows either I don't know but what you so you don't you're not going to give credit for that because it was a free transfer yeah pretty much I'll give credit in the fact that they were out the doors early.

11:20They've probably shown him a lot more, or given him more guarantees, more money, really persuade him. Actually, I will give him, no, I am going to give him credit for that, regardless of the food. Because Langer's supposed to be halfway out the door. Who's signing these players then? I just don't get it. It's so vague. It's like, who's in charge? You know, like the Lewis family cannot or they shouldn't be allowed to make footballing decisions because they haven't passed the fit and proper person's test. Charrington has. Charrington has. But the Lewis family obviously haven't because effectively, I guess, they hadn't had to.

12:06Obviously, Daniel Levy did. And they only need Charrington to be that, to be compliant. I also found something interesting with Charrington is that his job he's not Daniel Levy by the way so he's non-executive chairman so he doesn't make decisions he doesn't say this is the direction we're going in what he does is take agendas and then put them to the board so all this is in the episode of the lab we did with Anatole Pang recently I know I listened to it that's why I said it

12:43but it was interesting wasn't it he basically sets out sets out the agenda that he he has the control to put particular problems or perspectives in front of the board um which um which is a really important job because he's not a football man either um well i just wondered who was doing that deal with senesi was it was it already done and the work had been done and it was merely a case of if Spurs stay up, he'll sign if they don't, they go down. So it was done when Langer was in place. Exactly. So with Robertson and Senesi, is that how you say his name? Senesi. It's S-E-N-E-S-I. Senesi. Yeah. That work would have been going on in the background, January or whatever.

13:29The terms would have been made and it's like, as long as Tottenham stay up, I'll sign with you. You've shown enough kind of willingness that you want to sign me and all that lot. job done, stayed up, they've come to sign. But yeah, who was leading that? And listening to that pod with you and Anatole, he was largely kind of like the Lewis family and Chownton. They're finance guys. And that's cool. They've got a lot of experience. But the football inside, who's really doing? Well, the bridge between that and them, them in the football should be Venkatesham. Because lots of owners get involved in football without knowing about football.

14:12Like FSG at Liverpool didn't. They were a baseball team. Sports, still. Saudis. Sorry, not Saudis. The UAE guys have bought City. They knew nothing about football. It's less of a problem that Lewis family aren't football people. It's a big problem if they're making footballing decisions as Nick Boucher apparently did with the sacking of Thomas Frank. You got it right, right yeah you still should this the footballing guy should made that decision before he had to kind of step in so that's that's a worry but it's that the conduit between them and as they said it in their statement the experts and trust the experts which sounds very strange language again went into detail on that on the on the lab um yeah so it would be venkateson that would bridge that gap and i don't know how you feel about him a lot of people just want laying around v night out yeah um i've made it i don't think the football inside of things at this moment is on i've said this loads of times so people are probably bored of hearing it but um he does he understands what it means to run a football club it's not his job to recruit players it's his job to in empower someone like langer to make the right decisions so he's not going in a boardroom going right we want this this and this and then i'm going to go and negotiate with these players it's on Langer I think Langer is the most culpable of all and you can replace Langer with a better director of football and things would shift if he's good at his job I think things would shift quickly and then Venkateshman could just go on with running the football club and the commercial aspect the finances the women's team overseeing all of that stuff but Venkateshman's been here less than a year it would take five years for a ceo it's properly in print whereas sporting director langers definitely definitely should his head should roll massively yeah i think actually if you sack vena as well then all you've got is the lewis family and deserve it that's it i'm not sure that's good no it's definitely not good like do you know anything about oh director of football?

16:26Like, if I had to say to you, who would you... Get one in. Yeah, who would you get in?

16:35I don't know. I don't know. Because I didn't know who Perattici was before he turned up. I've heard Monchi at Villa. He's available, I think. I don't know. Yeah, he is available. I think he was also responsible for Simon Harvey Elliott, who hasn't played all season. good yeah um i don't i don't know that answer now it's a bit of a cop-out maybe i should know but i maybe could do some research no i don't know either bt is um what's his name uh psg guy louis campo he was when he um rumored to come to us a few years back what is he supposed to be he sounds good yeah yeah exactly he's supposed to be great get him at all costs.

17:20Leave PSG. Oh, is that PSG? I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, it's not coming, is it? But then we've seen rumours of, is it Doogie Friedman? Okay, Doogie Friedman has, like, Dan Cook speaks really highly of him. Yeah. He said he'd done wonders at Palace. He bought Eze, he bought Elyse, he bought Gaye, and he bought Wharton. That's fucking mental. That is mental. That is insane. that's an insane hit right i didn't know his reputation yeah i think people because these names dougie and he's scottish yeah well i just remember him is the like wasn't he a striker for palace yeah yeah yeah he was decent dougie um he left he basically left to go to saudi and dan was under the impression it wasn't about money because palace offered him more money to stay but it was more about the weather yes yeah probably that um so that that could be good it's a it's not only is it about finding an excellent director of football but it's also finding one work well with the zerby that that relationship needs to be excellent yeah um but who else is there the one that's been linked a lot is uh sebastian curl yeah um who when you read about him it's like it's not even our first choice but they're just kidding me not not even our first choice and uh the dortmund lads uh didn't rate him at all and were laughing about it what dortmund that's on twitter Oh, really?

18:57Yeah. Yeah. So, I don't know. There's others. Paul Mitchell's still available after leaving Newcastle. Oh, Mitchie. Yeah. I don't know if he's on him back. He's quite strong in his opinions, isn't he? And Tixkey Bergenstein. I can't remember his name. He was one of the architects of the modern Manchester City model. Yeah. He's an ex-barcer, yeah? How do you know this stuff, Rick? What? Is that real? I'm fairly certain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? Why do I know that? Yes. Why are you fairly... Oh, I got to say... Yeah, Spanish. Hold on a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he played for Barca. Oh, did he?

19:40Yeah. Oh, okay. I thought he was just like one of their sporting directors or something like that. No, he played for Barcelona, Real Madrid, Deputivo, and then he went to Japan. Mate, there's a picture of him sitting next to all of his trophies that he won while being director of football at Man City. Get him in! Get him in! Get him in! What are you waiting for? Fuck, he's right there! Yeah!

20:07Cristiano Guantulli says, Guantulli, that's probably how they say it, available since leaving Juve, built Napoli's Gattetto winning squad, excellent reputation for squad construction. Two little Italians. you want them

20:24yeah I don't know why that says that just said that I would yeah I don't know there we go yeah so I don't know what they're gonna do I think I think they kind of from like ITK conversations that are going on in WhatsApp groups and stuff like that I think Langer's time with us is up and whilst that happens and we may celebrate that he's gone we need to have a plan in place and not that Levy has gone Venkatesham here's the keys get on with it like because no Venkatesham you can't you can't have if you remove Lange you have to have a supporting director immediately in place yes you can't unless you're going to De Zerbi with his networks and going, oh, who do you want?

21:20Because the old school way of doing it would have been like, you know, when we had Redknapp and then was Daniel Levy. That was it. It was two-stage. I think there might have been some overlap with Baldini there. I'm not sure. But yeah, that's like a proper old school thing where you'd have Venkatesham and he would say, here's X amount of money. What players should we get? And maybe De Zerbi would like that. But I feel like you need someone to do all the hard yards in making signings of players that deserve. He can just concentrate on coaching. Yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah, you don't want him doing fucking everything, do you?

21:53Harry Redknapp was in the room with Eden Hazard trying to convince him to sign Tottenham. He convinced him, but then we just wouldn't pay. Daniel Levy wouldn't pay a little what they wanted. That's very, very surprising to hear. I just messaged a Bournemouth, mate. Oh, yeah. I said, what do you make of Sanessi? And he said, one of the best centre-backs I've ever seen for the club. Ridiculous passer of the ball. Always grabs loads of assists. He's just not the quickest. This is only downside. You've got Van der Ven next year. Yeah. Although he is left-footed. Yeah. So, where was this? I saw this on Reddit earlier.

22:36Sanessi's been in my FPL team all season. Has he? Yeah. is he quite popular in FPL isn't he yeah pretty much alright so Marcus Tonesi according to Squawker completed more through balls than any defender in the Premier League in 25-26 Tottenham as a team completed 8 in the entire season so at least that's 18 fucking hell fucking Frank is a fucking terrorist how he's got away with and no one blaming him for this season is it unbelievable yeah it's unreal unreal in it unreal like he should be if he wasn't such a nice bloke he'd be dragged over bloody hot coals he should be everyone's just like don't blame him blame everybody else I wonder what he'll say when and I wonder if he'll speak when he comes out and starts managing again or if he's if he'll give an interview as to say what went wrong at Tottenham or anything and well if he if he does it how he managed the press room at Spurs he'll just say what a great football club we are with so many great players yeah he'll probably bring out a book or something I don't hate this is the thing is I don't even dislike him I hate what he did I hated his football but I just think he's like just a nice bloke

23:57alright let's do some questions because it's Q &A podcast Rick let's fucking go get those quesies in it's Friday then Saturday Sunday what are you doing tonight? No, Rick. What am I doing tonight? Shuffing pills up your bum. Yeah. Two pills, two exe pills right up your bum. Yeah. Just quickly, I need to do a read here for Salie. Okay. It's just reminding me like ecstasy up the bum. Yeah. You know, going on a holiday. Two things are closely linked in my opinion. Absolutely. Have you ever have you ever stuck exe up your bum, Ricky? Not yet. I'm willing to give it a go. I mean, like, same. I haven't either, but, like, you've got one life, Rick.

24:42Go and do it. Yeah. Yeah. You managed to get away this year? I fucking booked one, didn't I? Did you? Where are you going? Going to Spain. Going to Spain, didn't I? España. España, yeah. So where are you staying? I just found an Airbnb for 10 days. Next to, what is it, Toro Melinos or something? Torre Viejo, yeah. Torre Viejo, yeah. Lovely, lovely. There's nothing you love more than just sitting, getting baked by the sun, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My favourite activity. But what do you not like getting caught without, Rick? Can you tell me? Like data. Data, data, man. Nailed it. Getting caught without data.

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27:01Nothing. You won't know when Spurs are signing players. You have no idea. When Kylian Mbappe signs for Tottenham, you'll know about four hours later. Do you want to be that person? Yeah. Won't be able to get any coverage on friendlies or anything like that. You'll be fucked, mate. What about Gibbs White? Signing Gibbs White? Come through. We're interested in it. The second half of the season, he's been fantastic. Yeah. He has been fantastic. Because he's come out and says, oh, we're in for him again. Like, what difference? what's changed from last season like marianakis is not going to go all right you can have him this time is he no he wasn't strong enough to say no either maybe he maybe there is a an actual clause that's a decent amount of money if we want to get him like 80 million or something like that the problem was we was getting him on the cheap it felt like yeah that's what i think what i don't understand like the secret clause like what's what good is a secret clause if you can't tell anyone about it the point is is people know what the clause is and they can meet you if they want to yeah oh well no we didn't tell anyone about the clause what why do you have it in there why do it's a secret clause yeah how do you know about the secret clause yeah but Gibbs White Gibbs White should have gone or his agent should have gone all right so we might put a clause in there because we want to get out of our football club but we can't tell anyone about the clause Is that what you're saying, Mr.

28:20Maranakis? It doesn't make any sense. And they signed it anyway. Bad agent. He shouldn't have been talking to him. His agent should have done all the work. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, so if we do sign Gibbs, right, you'll have no idea. Because you'll be on your sun lounger, sipping your beer. You won't be able to connect to your phone unless you have an eSIM app called Saley. Yeah. The link is in the description below. Right, questions there. he always says has the Steve Nash interview led to more ideas opened any doors for future big name interviews absolutely smashed it with that one looking forward to the next one no no no no it hasn't I wish it had yeah it'd be great they all come scurrying through the door me next please yeah yeah it doesn't work like that what you've got to remember right is people like Steve, they're giving their time.

29:20They benefit nothing from this. Like we haven't elevated, I think we might have elevated Steve Nash's opinion in Spurs fan base and those who've listened to the podcast. Because loads of people, that was really popular in that pod. We might have, people think more fondly of Steve Nash having listened to the pod. But Steve Nash didn't gain anything from it. Do you know what I mean? So you're asking really, really kind of important, successful people to give up their time, which is difficult. I mean, when you're rich, when you're as minted as Steve Nash, to be fair, let me be clear, never gave me any money for the house.

29:57It's not, the only thing that's valuable to Steve Nash is his time. Yeah. Because he's got all the material things he probably wants. And not just saying Steve Nash, anybody, anyone successful. So you're asking for the most valuable thing that they can give away, which is their time. So it's very, very difficult. So it hasn't opened any doors, but we don't like to push and we're looking for there's tons of people we'd love to interview if there was no red tape no nothing holding you back and someone said right I can get you anyone who do you want

30:39can I give you one while you're having a think yeah And I would But for this one I'd be like Flav can we rent a studio In London for this one We've all got to be in the same room Go and get me Jude Law Jude Law? Go and get me Jude Law Jude Law is probably more accessible than Trying to stare at his face A wank under the table Yeah Fucking fly man give any contacts to that sorry we were recording Lads Anonymous earlier and a fly kept landing on my head and Flav just thought it was very funny there you go still in its back yeah so I don't know I think Gareth Bale that would be that would be good obviously Harry Kane that has left finished football I think that would be amazing oh yeah yeah yeah i had nearly had david bentley really nearly but surely you can get david bentley i can i have his phone number i've texted him and we've texted we've exchanged text messages text him now the sun shining is friday he'll be well up for it the problem is is he doesn't have any technical capability this is genuinely the problem right okay so i would need to get him where he's where it's most convenient and i'd have to have some sort of podcast studio there so we was going to do it when he used to do a podcast in a talk sport i was going to go down after his podcast and we're going to walk across to uh a mate of mine who listens to this show he'll be listening to this um and we were going to use his studio we've been in actually you know um and uh he has a studio near london bridge and we were going to do it there but uh something happened he doesn't do that podcast anymore so right okay it's not like i can just send him a fucking zencast a link and he'll be able to work it out it just would never happen that's the problem yeah anyway uh big ang boss de cogloy says seeing you're seeing goona shirts wearing their shirts every fucking day do you think they own multiple or more likely just wearing and sleeping in the same shirt every day like stinky rats they are i i i bumped into a couple while i was in london this week working yeah um they look pathetic yeah they look stupid yeah i you've grown men walking around for four days of an arsehole show and is is pathetic yeah they are a fan base that are you know they always have to it's always got to be on show isn't it whether it's on their fucking water bottle on a hat fucking whatever it is the right little saps and when once they had uh won the league i and even shortly before that i had put in you know on instagram reels and tiktok and all this content that you don't want to see so i put in arsenal gooners arsenal afc everything so i at this moment in time and touch wood i have not seen them lift the trophy i've not seen them celebrating in the changing rooms with the trophy or on the bus or anything like that I've not seen a single thing which has been fantastic I live in Milton Keynes I work from home I haven't been at you know been out and I haven't seen really seen any gooner shirts or anything like that so I've been quite you know I've been happy in my own little bubble when I went to the football on Sunday and we were playing at home they were playing away they had obviously all kind of mobilized on social let's go and watch the trophy lift in finsbury park or highbury in islington they were everywhere it was fucking rank it's what there's there's a sort of thing on twitter i think someone posted in the group so i'm sorry clive martin says i'm sorry but there are obviously so many people doing arsenal Brat Summer.

34:39Not because they are football fans, but because the club has somehow become de facto living in London accessory. A de facto living in London accessory. And New Left Eviews says, I thought it was pretty petty and snobbish, but I've now seen people who I've known for years without ever hearing a football-related syllable from them, posting videos of themselves celebrating in Holloway Road wearing Arsenal kit, which is just abominable in every way I can describe. yeah that sums it up pretty well they're all scumbags it's Friday then it's Saturday Sunday what this is CD he says if Deserby gets us top five will Ricky let him bum him yeah top five yeah yeah yeah yeah no top four I want at least one actually fifth place is Champions League now innit yeah right okay yeah as long as we get champions league then sure why not i think they're sick to death of your ass i suppose nah it's pretty premium ass mate premium primo where are you going later i was just going to see ricky were you as well jazzy m94 says leicester avoided relegation then won the league we couldn't could we Pep gone Liverpool mess Chelsea are crap United will implode rugby scrubs in the box band to stifle Arsenal that said we were top of the league from goals from corners who we were yeah oh yeah we we beat Arsenal in the final day of the season oh good yeah most Arsenal players would have played 80 plus games following the World Cup no way they can have that legs for another 60 game season interesting interesting interesting how about some injuries their way that'd be nice broken legs Stifster said what were the lowest lows and your highest hoes from moments in this season Fulham away and the two-year-old was the lowest I felt I think

36:54I think it's probably going to be the lowest would have to be the forest game at home with the uh welcome coach uh and i i just felt like that was the turning point that was this was it we were you know all we were united you know all together it was everyone all together and we just kind of i just felt like this is it and then we got fucking thumped at home 3-0 and I just sat there yet again staring at my feet just thinking I cannot believe this is happening. Yeah, Forest is bad. My happiest moment of the season is going to be a bit of a selfish one here and I haven't visited the Etihad so my dad and I drove up there beginning of the season and we won 2-0.

37:54Yeah. Fucking brilliant. Yeah, it was brilliant. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I was going to say Man City as well, which is a shame because it's the second game of the season. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean there wasn't many highs. No, absolutely not. No.

38:13Uber Eze says, now that we're staying up and it looks like Cinesi and Robertson, who would you like to see brought into a squad in this window. Did you... I don't know why, but I'm not overly convinced by Savio. And they seem to want him, and they have wanted him since last year. Savinho? Yeah. Right, okay. Yeah, he's called Savio as well, isn't he? Oh, is he? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Savinho is his name, and Savio. Anyway, you know now. he I don't you you can't go from Girona to Manchester City if you're not good and play minutes under and he just seems to want to come which I can't articulate how strange that is why it has nothing to do with Spurs and every time I'm going Spurs yeah Savio just a quick call we've had a couple of offers from different clubs when any of in Tottenham?