S16E01 - Where Will Tottenham Finish This Season?

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1:18Cock! It's the fighting. It's the fighting. Cock! I've heard Costco's on the Wayne cow. Is it? Yeah. What happened? I don't know, you pay£42 a year just to go into that shop, you freak. Nah, freak's too harsh. Freak's too harsh. Is that all it is,£42 a year? What do you mean all it is to walk into a shop, you've got to pay£42 a year? It's a fucking scam. Yeah, because if you don't pay, you can't go in, and there's loads of good stuff in there. That's a great model. I wish I did that for more shops. You know what I mean? Imagine Marks and Spencer's, but not everybody could go there. It'd be loads better.

2:00Keeps the riffraff out. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. There's no riffraff going to Marks and Spencer's for fuck's sake. Well, they should go and look at stuff. Waitrose, wherever. I'm just saying if everywhere had some sort of membership fee, that'd be quite, I'd like that. I don't know. Exclusive access to pizza and hot dogs. Like what else do you want? Yeah, you're paying£42 to go and buy hot dogs. Yeah. Yeah. Councilor estate cunt.

2:30I love it. He's simultaneously the bourgeoisie because he's got a membership that not everyone can access, but he's still a council estate scumbag. He uses it like a scumbag. Yeah, I like it. Can I just say, the council estates did wonderful things for many, many people, and without them, many people would be fucked. I was just merely using this as a way to attack my friend unnecessarily. Yeah, it was needless. I'll tell you what we're doing on this podcast, boys. we're looking ahead we're looking to next season we're thinking about what we've got what we might need there'll be no talk about the World Cup you'd be pleased to know zero good zero talk which Ben Bowman's just posted a picture of Gibbs White assigned with Roof as a new agency to represent him and take him to the next steps for future for future chat and from now on terrible terrible language from Fabrizio Romano uh what does that matter if you've got a knife to your throat when making decisions but maybe that's what it is maybe they're not like a real agency maybe they're just the North Jersey mafia and the only reason he's gone there is he's like look I don't really care you can have more than 15 you can take 20 I just need you to protect me against Maranakis that's that's what because I want to leave Forest I want to go Spurs but last time I tried to do that he threatened me so can you get Paulie walnuts and the lads to come and protect me please because I'm scared uh with a midfield that is already stacked is there room for Gibbs White if he was even on the table Cal would you entertain a bid for him now I think we need a 10 I do think we need a 10 um because Xavi's obviously done his ACL and probably went back to January-ish uh James Madison as much as I love him is a stiff breeze away from doing his knee again uh the guy's always injured love him dearly but he's always fucking injured and Kulusevsky is not a 10 he's a right winger and yeah so I think we need a 10 so I'm all up for Gibbs White absolutely yeah let's get him in let's get him in we just need to add technical quality to the middle of the pitch like we've been saying for a long time there just aren't enough technicians there's so many runners and we've got as Cal said we've got technical players who are out injured or are injury prone so having another one in there like does give us a bit of like protection for that and also he's just a really really good player and if you can get him in get him in and figure out the selection headaches later I think like we're becoming obsessed a little bit with this idea that because we might not be in Europe next year that that means that we suddenly have to play like a starting 11 and there's no squad rotation it's just going to be an 11, that's it, and everyone else has to go.

5:20And there'll be no injuries. There'll be no injuries. There'll be no cup games. It's just, they're going to play every game, every second of every game. Did nobody learn anything from the last two years? All of them are getting injured. We need another whole 11. I want to see another 11, 100 million pound players because we're going to need them because everyone's going to get injured. Also, like we're talking about Mateus Fernandes and Tenali midfield, but that was, I mean, Tenali played 29 games in Newcastle last year. Yeah. I think that's right. We need, we need depth. We need to assume that these players are not all going to be available.

5:49Even if you have an average injury record in the season, you're still going to lose key players at some stage. It's rumoured that... So there's a couple of things. I've mentioned this on the podcast release yesterday, the Q &A podcast with Rick. But I've had a... I don't know what I want to say. There are rumours that the Bear of Oval is going and probably to Nottingham Forest. And£45 million is the fee. 38 was said to have been originally bidded and rejected and 45 was the fee and I've I hate saying what I heard but I'm just saying it's been like the same way the Vuscovich deal was done way before it was announced but what's that face for I'm just holding it in so much just to go look at me I know people that know stuff I've got three big people three big people feeding me information nice love that yeah we got we got that for you we've got the source right we've got the tentacle and the new one the gentleman gentleman gentleman's nice and they all they all know different bits alright so if you want me to do you want two sources to corroborate my shit or not yeah no this is no zero source this is just someone who knows who said that the deal was done the tentacle is definitely a danger to women isn't he everywhere it wasn't the tentacle it was the beast that one oh anyway But the point is, if Lucas is going and we replace him with Gibbs White, that's squad building.

7:24Yeah. That's squad building. We are stacked a little bit. You went through the squad at our first 11, our best possible first 11 right now if we don't make any more signings. If Savino feels like he's very close or to be done, it's going to happen. So, you've got Kinski, you've got Van Hecker, you've got Van Venn or Sanessi. You've got Roberson. You've got Doggy. You've got Spence and you've got Porro. I need to chat about Spence after. Then you've got a midfield. Tonali, Fernandes and Madison. You've got Kulisevsky, Kudus, Solanke, Richarlison, Tell, Odebeer and Savinho and Deserbi as coach. There's stuff.

8:12There's a little bit of work to be done But that's about as healthy as we've been going into a season for a long, long time. Yeah. I think, to be honest, mate, it's like we keep talking about the squad is stacked, but it's stacked with numbers rather than stacked with quality. And I think that's what this window we are addressing is like we're sort of turning over players that either are going to be good or we think are going to be good in the future, but they're just not good now and replacing them for players that we think are better right now. And we are also trying to bring in more quality to help the squad.

8:41because again that was one of the issues that we had is that we did have options to bring in but there was such a disparity between the first 11 player that was injured and the young player that's like had to come into that team like for example Berg von der Gray I think most people agree they're going to have a pretty good future in football but the drop-off is just too big for a club of our size to be able to do anything and that's what I want to see addressed this summer and I know it's like difficult but you know if you're looking at players like a Voscovic versus to Van Hecker. Like, maybe Voskovic will go on and be a much better player.

9:12In four or five years, we can't wait that long. So making that upgrade now makes sense. And it would be the same thing for like Morgan Gibbs-White for Bergvot. Like right now, that makes sense because that improves us and drives us forward. And it's exactly the same thing I'd like to see with, say, like, for example, a Richarlison. If you can move him on and bring someone else in who's of a better quality than him, then you're turning over the squad numbers, but you're also just improving quality around the squad. And I think that's really important. This isn't about bodies. This is about like improving the quality of the first 11 and players coming in being much better.

9:49100%. Also, I'm not sure does Zerbi's obsessed over particular players or positions. It's more about how they're going to functionally work in his system. It's so fluid. There's so much that players have to think about. the spaces they have to take up regardless, depending on the situational position of the ball, the situation that a player who is an archetypal number 10 might not necessarily be in the 10 position. In the same way, Posta Coglu never really had a, sorry, Pochettino, still doing it. Pochettino never really had a number 10. You had a fluid movement between at least three forwards in Son, in Eriksen and Dele.

10:36Ericsson and Dele would share the roles and swap out. They'd go wide. They'd drop for each other. I can see something similar to that. So while we do, we'll be just going back to your point, Cal, that we need a number 10. Whoever that is, if when Xavi's back or Madison's back, their role is, let it be less about the individual ability. No doubt we're going to have to rely on that. And the rumors are that Dezerbi has instructed the board to build a team full of sufficient quality so that we can win the league this season. Yeah. And that means that, you know, we might not need to buy that number 10.

11:16We might not need to buy that number nine. I mean, it'd be great if we did. Like someone like Creepy would be incredible. But I think we're going to see a different style of football than we anticipate under De Zerbe, like what he'd done at his previous football clubs. You know, at Brighton, he had Lallana, he had Gross he had I can't remember who else he had but they never they weren't just sort of hanging around the box there was just a lot of movement dynamism to the way he played I think like without question we're going to win the league this year so yeah just about sitting back and enjoying it really which should be a rare thing I would not rule out three at the back us playing three at the back just because we have such depth you know and you've signed Van Hecker and Senesai and you've already got Van de Ven and you've got Danso and for now we have Romero but I suspect he'll get his soul.

12:08That's a lot of centre-backs. That's a lot of good quality and I would not rule out and I think all of our full-backs can play wing-back like no problem at all. Porro especially. Porro is, he is a wing-back. He's become Porro, a world-class full-back but I think in his core he is a wing-back really. I would not rule us out us playing three at the back and then like you were saying, we wouldn't need a 10 then it'd be two 8s and 3-4-3 sort of thing yeah I think this is interesting though right because we've had a really strong start to the transfer window right we're all excited and we're like 100 million pound players like big signings and that's really positive and then you know to your point Flav about you know we're hearing like murmurings that the Zerbi's like well I see an opportunity for us to try and win the league this year and I'd agree with that I think if you look at the league like there is a really good opportunity to do this with no Europe and if you invest properly.

13:01But we will really see if that is true because you don't think about, well, maybe we don't need a 10, just get one anyway. But if you're really serious, if the board are really serious, like they are really going to back it, you don't go, well, maybe we can make do then. Like just get the extra 10, just spend the money. Same with the forward line. It's like, oh yeah, well, maybe we can make do a comeback. We've done, maybe we can make do. We've done that. So if you're really serious about wanting to do it, And again, this is not me shitting on the board because at the minute, the sounds are like, they're going to.

13:31They want a couple more players and they're prepared to spend the money and we're shifting players out so that's making funds available. I'm just saying, I don't want to change my mindset of like, you told us you were serious about doing it. So far, so good. But let's not now, and not that we can do anything, but let's not settle for this. Let's see Morgan Gibbs-White. Let's see Kruppi for 100 million. That's what it takes to get him and you think that's what's going to give you the best chance to win the league, get him now. There might not be another chance in two years' time. So I'm really interested to see if they hold their bottle, basically, and keep going.

14:05Because I think if they do, then I think that is actually the right play because this is a really good opportunity to finish as close to top as possible. So let's see. So we signed Robertson, we signed Sanessi, we signed De Bravka, who's a backup keeper. We've got Van Hecker, you've got Fernandes and Tonali. If they add two more, or would you be comfortable with just adding a left winger in Savino and just going with Solanke? No. No. I think we need a striker. Like, we need Kruppi, basically. I think that would be good. Kruppi's the only one being linked. Like, is there no number nines out there other than him?

14:44Blavitch. Yeah, Karl likes Blavitch. I mean, look, look. He's free. He is a number nine and he's free. I mean, he's not. No-brainer. Go on. Ben Ford was crazy. Sell us Vlachovic then. He's free. He's free. Serbian. He's Serbian. Juve. And he's all right. And he's free. Just look at it like the number nine market is bare right now. Richarlison has a year left on his contract. So we have to sell him. Unless we're going to extend him, which I couldn't... He was our top scorer, I think. unless we're going to extend him we have to sell him right and I think you look at you look at the team now and after all the signings you've just laid out and you go goalkeeper yep he was great Kinski defence fuck me that's strong now huge upgrade on the midfield wicked and then you get to the you get to the forward line you're like wah wah wah it's just like that forward that's not good enough just the nine no the whole lot Kudis is Kudis is a good player but the rest of them tell is fucking Wilson Odebear has had more major surgeries than he scored league goals for Tottenham factually he has scored one league goal for Tottenham in two years and has had two major surgeries do you have any any patients in that obviously we can't buy a whole new squad so some of these players have got to come good do you have any patients that that the De Zerbi will be able to get the potential out of these players that we haven't seen yet.

16:22Other people find Patel to stay. Solanke's fine as well. Odd a bit, like... But in the right set-up, could he not flourish? Just as a squad member, I think that's fine, isn't it? He wasn't any... Okay, right. He wasn't much good to start with, and now he's had a major hamstring injury and a major ACL. What the fuck are we dealing with here? He's just not very good. and everybody wants him to be a thing, but he just hasn't ever been a thing, I'd bomb him out as quickly as possible, to be honest. And that's the area that needs strengthening massively. We really lacked goals last year. Just because people at home might have a different opinion and just which obviously, and I know you're struggling to show this, but you don't care.

17:08I know you don't, but I'm just like when you sometimes listen to a podcast, you wish that someone on the podcast might oppose of you because they feel this way. So my position is that everyone's been shit for two years. Yeah. I think that's a fair point. And I think it's weird for us to have, because I feel a bit sad about Bereval leaving. But then I think, but I guess that's because he's young. And I think we look at these young players and we think, you know, it ain't your fault. Like you're young, you've come to a new league. I know, I know. But these players have been shockingly bad for two years.

17:47So we shouldn't have any real loyalty to them at all. I'd imagine if you as a coach, you'd go in there and go, this is your fault. I hate, yeah. Yeah, I hate your guts. This is your fault. Yeah. I do think that like, most of what Cal is saying is pretty fair, right? And pretty provable based on like how their, like how their performances have been. But I also think what you said, Flav, is true, right? Which is they haven't been playing under De Zervi. in what seems to be a more positive space, a more positive environment. It has been disrupted, blah, blah, blah. So that's fair. I think if we're able to sign Savinho, then on the left side, having basically Savinho as first choice with Tell and Mikey Moore as the rotation options is decent.

18:36But again, if Savinho gets injured, you're back to Tell. Now, I really like Tell and I personally think he will go on to be really good, but it's the same problem I spoke about earlier. It's quite a big drop-off. But I think if you're going to prioritise, rather than saying two Savinho levels for the left-hand side, when we need a nine, I think we need a nine desperately. I do really think we need another one because I think Solanke's a pretty decent player and I think he can function pretty well in a team that's functioning well. He'll link up play really well. But we've seen he's not ruthless.

19:05He's not a killer. And that could be a bit of an issue. And so having a player like Kruppi, Kruppi that's sort of able to score goals and also be quite exciting and can you know potentially be that franchise player in the next few years I think that is that is also quite exciting and then on the other side we're all sort of we I do it all the time which is like you got Kudis you got Kudis you haven't got Kudis like he is done right for the foreseeable anyway like he's not going to be back so the right hand side is as worrying to me because there is no rotation for Kudus on the right side. So, we actually do need a nine, Savino, and another winger.

19:45Like, we do need two wingers, basically, because Odebeer, even if he was available, to Cal's point, he's not ripped up trees, but he's not available either. He's going to be out for ages still. Yeah. Realistically. So, we do need two wide players and a nine. So, we're going to have to spend some serious checks. We can't fucking have everything. We've got loads already. We have more players? Or more? How many more players do you want? I know every squad's got problems, John. Everyone. Pays Checkout is offered by your banks and credit unions. So when you shop online at participating merchants, your cards appear in one place, ready to use and kept up to date.

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21:21Vicario. Vicario. Little 20. Little 20 for him. Yeah. Little 20, little 20 for Richarlison. Anything, just to never see his face again, really. I'll take a little 40 for Romero. Off you pop. Right, I want to talk about Romero in a sec. But there's these, you can call him all the words under the sun just in a second we can spend time alright sorry sorry sorry where was I it's hard to concentrate when you're just one of the members of the podcast just going can't can't we was at we was at the streets gig last night and they they was it dry your eyes mate yeah and they performed that and it got to the end of the chorus and I just involuntarily just shouted at you bitch all these girls just turned around all these girls turned around to cracking up uh they were lovely they were lovely yeah a couple of numbers a couple of numbers yeah yeah i i suspect i wasn't their type um but they were great they were very whimsical and i love whimsical people and and i mean if there was a world where you would you know get a number yeah from a girl how salie boy right yeah interesting you brought because i wasn't thinking salie interesting god you go on salie you do your little drop down text other birds and you give them that number all right because that's your texting other birds number that's not what it's for salie is not for that salie's for getting decent data or when you travel abroad not for chatting to other birds and your wife not finding out that's not no it's interesting because the last read that I heard on Sally, it ended with, yeah, cheat on your wife.

23:06You should cheat on your wife. He said that. Don't know. Does that, it's just part of the read. Just don't know. And I thought, yeah, that's good advice. Yes, I should do that. That's exactly what I should do. Don't cheat on your wife, but if you're going to, don't get caught. No, if you're going to, use Sally and use your fighting cock code. Otherwise, what's the point? Protect her. Protect her by having a private, having a separate number. Yeah, have some patient feelings. Save her from, yeah, save some hurt feelings. Yeah. No, but can I just be clear? that Saley is for data plans when you travel across 190 countries that they serve and do a brilliant job.

23:40You can save huge amounts of money. Actually, the cost of Saley, once you've used your 15 % discount, fighting cock, when you sign up, means that you'll save it in a single holiday. Yeah, I saved it when I went to the US. I used it. Got a couple of weeks worth of unlimited data. Bang, way cheaper than the charges that I got with my current provider. John goes away a lot so he gets different numbers with different birds it fucking makes me sick he's every two every two minutes he's changing jobs and then he's just going on holiday John does two things changes jobs and goes on holiday that's it yeah that's what I do goes mental on Twitter yeah I don't always go mental on Twitter that's the third you know the third sibling of that little group of stuff that's like the lowest down but yeah yeah but yeah so if you if you want to support the podcast if you want to benefit and save money when you go abroad and not worry about data charges.

24:32You've got kids around the pool and they're moaning. Can I have my phone? I want to watch fucking TikTok. Get a fucking pool, you little cunt. No, if you've got them. Back to the bird, you fucking twat. Yeah, let's have fucking little senior eaters over there. Go and talk to them. You're not having my iPad. Anyway, you don't want to get stung by the charges for them watching guff on brain rot, I think the kids call it, on the old devices. So, Sally will save you money in that respect. You don't have to worry about how often. If you're shit parents and you just want to give your kids phones all day, which categorically I would 100%.

25:06In fact, growing up with kids, going to a restaurant, and you're like, well, no, no, I'm not going to give my kids phones because they're going to learn to sit at the restaurant table and eat like everyone wants. Do you know how fucking bored your kids are sitting there watching you eat? That's like the most boring thing you put your kids through. If they want to watch Dragon Ball Power Slayers, then... let them let them watch it while you're having your fucking sausages and chips as someone who doesn't have kids do whatever it takes to shut them the fuck up please do whatever it takes there's no judgement I'm not looking over going that's poor parenting you should you know be more actively involved no no I'm like fair play just shut them up life is stressful enough yeah good you drag these little things into the world and everyone else is just trying to have their dinner fucking put them in front of a phone so they're not starting screaming and shouting and running around like anyway I swear I'm turning into my dad every single day I get older just hear my dad's voice maybe he's right about everything he is no John leave it leave it okay talking of cunts Romero yeah yeah fucking slay well I think can we make that the last C-bomb of the episode because I think we've dropped about 10 and we're only 20 minutes in oh I haven't said it once no you're a man of culture aren't you you're a man of culture and controversial politics love me love me so much you don't say cunt on the podcast he said it again said it again yeah because you've been a fucking having favourites because you're having favourites is this a problem from when you was a kid like people having favourites and you were never one of the favourites Cal is that what it's from never never lashes out this is the last C-bomb you use what do you have to I promise I promise this is the last no no no this is the last one you're allowed right so if you're offended by the C-bomb.

26:56Apologize. We apologize to you. Not everyone likes to hear it. Just mute the next 30 seconds of the podcast. One of my favorite things about cow is in any circumstance, he did it at my house when he stayed over and he does it at work. And the moment he just realizes, what do you think you are most of the time? Friendless cunt. You're a fuck. I heard him muttering to himself, you're a fucking friendless cunt. Right, that's it. Enough. Nothing to see. It's just an awful tick. It's just this awful... I was sat at my desk the other day and I was just... My mum would to myself, got no friends. You've got no friends.

27:32You've got loads of friends. I know. I don't know why I'd do it. It's just a tick. It's a tick. I don't know what it is. I think it's such a hangover from something. I don't know what it is, Cal. I don't know, man. I don't know. Your mum's got a lovely technique with her mouth. Right, now...

27:52Right, okay. Right, Romero. Yeah. Talking of lovely technique. Right, we can all agree about the antics of the Argentine players. We don't need to go into it, but there was a... There was a pre-defined problem with Romero at Tottenham way before the World Cup. and that was that, you know, he disappeared when we needed him. He was a club captain and he was away when he should have been around the dressing room. He should have been in the training centre. He should have been part of the process like Ben Davis was and De Zerbe has alluded to this. Part of the process that kept us up even if he couldn't play and he wasn't.

28:32So that became a problem and the messaging coming out of De Zerbe, it feels like there may be an issue there. I'm, and I know, I think I know you guys feel like, I think we're all at the end. We feel like we're at the end of the road with him. we understand he's a good footballer we understand all of the things that he does well and we understand the things that he doesn't do well and that's fine as well but by god it has to be the end of the road now oh yeah he just doesn't he doesn't i feel like to some degree i was gonna cry i feel like to some degree he needs to earn you need to earn your right to pull on the shirt But that's where the mentality needs to be now, John.

29:11Yeah, the thing is with Romero is it seems like recency bias because we've obviously just had this big game with them and all the fallout from that, which we won't go into. But I've sort of not warned to him from the beginning. His personality is just quite self-focused and he's very Argentina-focused. He'd always, you know, that classic thing where he'd be injured for us then make himself available for them and we'd have big games coming up and he'd go through all those, like for friendlies, got all that travel and all that stuff when he's supposed to be rehabilitated and then not be available.

29:43There's that side, which has always frustrated me. And then, like I said, it's sort of his on-pitch persona is it's just sort of about him. Like he just gets himself sent off in games because he's got, you know, too emotional over stuff and just like goes overboard and just, you know, when we need him the most, just gets himself sent off. the going home when you know we're right in the mire and we need everyone pulling together it's just it's just things like that that really frustrate me um and also you know from a sort of personal point of view like in terms of how he plays I think he's an excellent footballer but I don't think he's a very good defender and I think actually like we would be better off having a player who is basically a much better defender and slightly not as good footballer to just be consistently playing for us than the ups and downs that we get.

30:36And you just can't build, you can't build something around a player that's that up and down and just inconsistent with what, you don't know what you're going to get from him. And then the last point on him is, I don't like the way that basically it seems like the squad are sort of scared of him. Like that to me doesn't feel like Team Unity, like the way sort of ex-players talk about Roy Keane. there was like a level of respect because they feared a little bit about how he'd react to things but they also knew that he had their back and actually it sort of meant more like they wanted to impress him and they knew that he was just like this kind of fierce leader i just feel like that he's a bully and i don't like that and i don't i don't really feel that that sort of fits in with what we're trying to do moving forward so with all of that said i just feel like it's enough now and I would like to see him like go and I'm with Cal we should be getting a shitload for him because he might win two world cups and he's won a Europa League with us he's playing in the Premier League he's like you know at prime peak age we should be getting a shitload of money for him but I would take like 40 mil if it meant we could get get him out I think look it's about leverage isn't it it's like he no doubt on on paper he is a player that you should command 50 60 million if at least and if he's fully committed and under contracts as he is at spurs then but not committed but under contract um then you could be looking north of 60 that's just yeah it's i don't think we'll just fuck around my feeling is they'd rather just get business done and get it through the door.

32:17Money isn't an issue. We've got massive headroom PSR and we've got cash on the hip because the injection of cash from Enoch. Also player sales coming through the door. It's not about pissing around. Just get it done. Get it settled. If we have to take 45 million or 50 million, you know, 20 million more than you're probably worth in different circumstances, then just do it. Just get it done. It's not like we, we're not Aston Villa. or Newcastle, where you've got to drain every possible penny from a deal because it's in their best interest to do that. Right now, it's an advantage that we can sell players cheaper than we would like or what Daniel Levy had done.

32:56And the great thing about this situation is that Daniel Levy would have, we got so used to these deals just lasting, going on forever, what's going to happen because of constant negotiation, trying to win the deal, trying to just find margins, more margins. Like the Van Hecker stuff, Spurs have had their pants pulled down according to Daniel Levy via a text message to Simon Jordan. Who cares? We haven't categorically. We might have overpaid because he had a one-year left in his contract, but we've done the business we need to do because that was the best thing for the football. It just showed you everything in that moment of what Daniel Levy used to think and how we were operating and why we never went on to achieve anything and why people feel about Spurs the way they do and why they're so upset that we're now disrupting everything we were never good at doing business with our premier league clubs when daniel levy was they probably hated they all hated him because he'd been around for 20 fucking years and like you said had to win every deal and had to ring the every drop out of the tea towel um and it was just like like even like bereval it's like okay we've done you know it sounds like we've done a deal it's done kind of thing brennan johnson like how quickly was that done like quick we got really good price for him that was the key indicator of change.