S16E20 - Can Deki's Return Raise Us?

25:57Ricky:I think it's like cliche and it's kind of immeasurable, that kind of stuff. If you were to go through, like, if he started reading off all these different stats on why he believes it's not working at Tottenham or we're not moving the ball forward or we're not doing X, Y, Z. Okay, maybe. But, like, just saying, oh, yeah, it's a mentality issue. I could go on there and say that because it's easy and you can't prove me wrong. Yeah. You don't have to justify your position, do you? Yeah. And I said that, but it was just almost like fell on deaf ears. I don't know. You should have got up and punched him.

26:37I mean, I don't think it would have gone well for me.

26:40Ricky:No, he's quite handy, actually. Yeah. It would have been good TV, yeah. All right, let's do some questions then, boy. Did you get a chance to have a little chat with him after? No, there is no chance. They wear them in and wheel them out. It's not. We don't mingle around with them. It's as it looks as on the show is that they sit on the sofa. although to be fair sometimes especially jamie carrigan like he's always like happy to to do stuff okay yeah he's i know he has a bit of a reputation for good reason but out of all of them paul skulls as well i was gonna say you had a chat with skulls only when i was i was lucky enough to be on the couch with him but not not in in any form they have a green room so they've got a place where they are and then where we are yeah yeah but you can understand it because there's like loads of food they'd get caught up and like they must do videos and shit like that all the time so is there a chance to stick a whoopee cushion on the sofa where they sit yeah probably would be oh please i'm not sure maybe when i finally quit maybe when i finally quit uh all All right, let's do some questions.

27:56Hook in Nater, he says, on an episode from last season, you alluded to an old episode where you had a lie detector test that shocked if you lied. Anyone know the episode title when it was posted? That was a great episode. My guess is it was the first episode of season four, I think. I think.

28:20Ricky:How would you even know that or remember that? I remember it being the first season. Sorry, first episode of the season. And I'm thinking of the timeline of it being around, because I was at Ball Street as well. So there'd been early days then. So I think season four, episode one is my gut feeling, but you'll have to go back and check. Yeah. It has a thumbnail that's blue, like a navy blue, and an electric bolt on it. Right. Okay. right right what did you say well no I feel like we posted the photos when we were at Ball Street we must have posted them on the Fighting Cock Instagram account could be there's one with Alex talking about being scared yeah yeah yeah yes go back on the Fighting Cock Instagram and they'll be there but I'm pretty sure it's around the start of season 4 right reddit true for you he says what disease is most likely supporting Spurs and why it's most likely is mostly is most likes for 14 spurs am I uh possum said herpes some exciting moment kicked it off but now you've subjected to a suffering which returns over and over again and there's no cure yeah that is a shout yeah I was gonna say motor neuron for sure because it's just eating away at you I've got to be honest motor neurons the thing that scares me the most oh 100 100%.

29:48Ricky:Jesus Christ. The amount of times that I'm just eating my dinner and I don't know that I'll swallow my saliva or something, I start choking a bit, and I'm like, oh, that's my throat muscles going. That's it. I'm out here. It's such a sad, horrible, debilitating disease. It's horrendous. Awful, man. Yeah, it's awful. I think maybe cerebral palsy because you're capable of incredible things, but people judge you for the way you look. That's a good shout. Yeah. Yeah. A good friend of mine has cerebral palsy and he is doing well despite people doubting him. Doing very well, in fact.

30:38Mashboire67 says, between the fighting cock and Lads Anonymous, there has been much chatter recently about grown men shitting themselves. I, however, have never shat myself, am I missing out? Just you wait. It'll happen to you when you least expect it as well. Unless Mash Bowls 67 is the year that he was born, then maybe he won't. It's just like you feel fine, but you realise that eventually, as you age, your body starts to fail you. And it's your arsehole that is the first to go. yours has been going since the early 20s oh yeah yeah yeah yeah very early 20s yeah yeah but um you're not missing out at all the panic the hot wicklet the hot the hot snake snakey brown snakey liquid comes out and burns your asshole and you're like why is it so hot it's because because inside in a body core the temperature of our is really warm i think it's that's 37 degrees centigrade if you're out in the sun it's 37 you are scorching yeah it's really

31:43Ricky:weird you're saying this because earlier i was i went for a wee and while i was pissing a fly flew past my stream and it caught it and went in the toilet and i was thinking how hot is my urine as it exits my body will it burn the fly or like i don't or is it just like lukewarm water how what what is the fly thing in? Fuck! Scalded. Where's that come from? How hot is urine when it comes out?

32:12Fuck! Urine is typically between 90 degrees to 100 degrees Fahrenheit when it comes out. Closely matching the normal internal body temperature. Fuck! Mate, you couldn't sit in the sun for more than 10 minutes in 100 degrees Fahrenheit. wow yeah so it probably got scorched I think the fly went away and then it's dead okay you did that to a fly today yeah

32:43Ricky:it was his fault he fucking sweated he flew into it not like I'm just standing in my garden just trying to piss on flies what hang on a second you were in the garden when you were pissing in your back garden no but I just assumed that's where flies normally hang about no they hang about indoors don't they well especially my house fucking hell I've never known initially like a fruit fly invasion is a problem yeah and do you know why it's a problem because obviously they're eating rotten fruit and stuff like that but it's when you're trying to watch telly and it just flies in front of your eyes and you can't get it you can't get the little cunt Ristifer Throbin what a name Ristifer Throbin good there was a take on View from the Lane that they should scrap the trumpet at the start of matches because there's a negative psychological association with losing ever since they started doing it.

33:34I think there may be something to that and feel like we should switch to singing Can't Smile About You since it's become associated with us as an expression for how fans feel about the club. And I think we should, I think he said, we should switch. Sorry. And I think it would be a welcome change. Thoughts on that? If it's the fucking trumpet that is the reason, then nothing makes sense. Do you reckon there's any kind of psychological thing behind it. I don't, whenever I hear the trumpet now, I'm not like, get in boys. I'm like, here we go again. Yeah,

34:08Ricky:it's James Moore, this is, who is, he's the anti-trumpet. I quite like the trumpet and I haven't really made the connection, if I'm honest. You know what I'm more annoyed about? It's probably the lack of cohesion and coaching of the players. Sorry, the drum. I don't know where it is I don't think it's there anymore I don't think it's been there for a while it annoys me yeah I mean we need a drum we need a drum and it needs to be embraced and supported by the football club like it used to be yeah like there was times in the in the noughties I think late 90s maybe with that drum in the corner on the shelf it would just be the the rhythm of the crowd yeah like even if you don't like it it's fine you don't like it but you cannot like Like, you cannot complain about the fans not supporting the club or the players on the pitch or booing, and then complain, well, I don't want the drum either.

35:07I'm not sure that that is even a position where people are at, but that drum at the time, and it wasn't going on. People think it was just going constantly. It wasn't. It was whoever had the drum, and it was, you know, a couple of people we know, don't speak to often enough actually in these days, but, you know, we had a close connection with the guy who did the drum. I think he's the second guy. Dan. Yeah, Dan. I think they're both called Dan as well. Yeah, they are actually. They're two drummers and both of them are called Dan. But he would, like all of us in the ground, would be able to sense when Tottenham were really up.

35:46And that's when it would start going. It wasn't just constant, regardless of what was happening. It would get a feeling, like we'd get a corner, a shot, and we're building it. You go, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Do you know what I mean? Because the club is so sensitive, or they have been previously, about encouraging Spurs fans to use the word yid, when it's used in every single game and always has been for decades. They don't need to be so sensitive about it. But that, you know, it used to get you going, and it would be a rhythm for the crowd. and it was like... Yeah.

36:29Huge. Huge. Huge. And it would just start to grow. It would like help people. Yeah, you're right. Bringing it back would be an incredible thing.

36:38Ricky:I totally forgot about that speed drumming. Rashad Gulp. Fucking wallet egg. Come on, yeah, come on. Yeah.

36:53uh bb yep he says no question just wanted to fake uh say thank you for normalizing being an adult man with ibs it can be a very isolating and shit yourself in to shit yourself in public but knowing that flab and ricky are constantly at risk of exploding in their pants makes you feel like i'm not alone i don't have ibs i shit myself once right so don't i'm not in your gang bb yep i am I do support you. Ricky, on the other hand, he's you and him brothers about me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Slow Try says, if you put all of the effort and time you've invested in Spurs into something else, what are some of the things you think you could have achieved?

37:34It's like 10 ,000 hours into playing the piano. You'd be a master at it. I don't know. I wouldn't change anything.

37:44Ricky:I'd be fishing. You'd be fishing? I'd have caught a 40-pound carp by now. Isn't that just luck, though? No, it's not luck. I saw a reel the other day with a bloke. He's fishing. Yeah. And some other geezer with a remote-controlled boat put bait in his swim. Oh, I know the one you're talking about. Is that allowed? No. That is such bad etiquette. Is it? He couldn't have seen where he was. but there was a drop before dc that's where that's fucking so bad so to give you a bit anyone who doesn't know fishing i don't know really but i watched this video and i did think of you and i thought of uh our fellow friend billy um who's uh what's his uh instagram bill grim bill grim yeah he knows his stuff um anyway there's these rods that are pointing in a certain direction and then there's this little boat apparently you're allowed to do this as a fisherman now ladies and gentlemen is remote control boat and drop bait in an area to attract fish so you can catch them that is cheating yeah it's cheating is it do you agree yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah bill doesn't agree no no he likes the boats i don't know if he wants to stop them but we want to stop the boat it does make sense yeah uh yeah so um sorry my phone's ringing right okay further questions

39:12Gully Rhythm he says if you want to punch one journalist or pundit in the face just to shut them up who would it be Sam Matterface

39:20Ricky:I don't really know a lot of Gabby Abungalor yeah Gabby yeah Gabby someone said free punch Cundey nah so I'm going to tell you behind the curtain Jason Cundey I know he's going to irritate a lot of people because he's on he's performing but outside of the studio he's really really lovely like really takes time to uh unless he's just it's all bravado and he he doesn't actually give a shit but he does take wow really yeah nice really nice geezer like shakes around and uh and uh yeah interesting now i would have i yeah i wouldn't have thought that i would have thought it'd have been um arrogant and kind of like much not like his uh on radio a persona, but close to it.

40:03Yeah, no, not at all. Really nice. Big Ange Bostacoglu says, Darren Fletcher, him and Ali, drive me up the wall. Yeah. I'd agree with that completely. You know who you're talking about, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't you say anything then?

40:22Ricky:Because, well, we were talking about it the other day on the pod. You said, Darren Fletcher, not the one who plays for Man United.

40:32it's so funny you say that because i was i was listening to that pod driving in and that bit i was like oh god that was shit why did i say that obviously everyone knows it for you to then say that really dagger to my heart sorry it's all right i deserve it but uh bit few says if each of the lads could bring one player that played under potch during in the prime era of the late 2010s, an ad to the current squad, who would it be to get us out of this mess? One player from that era. Before this,

41:10there's this. As you celebrate the game, take a deeper look at its roots. The people grow in the grass, baving the lots, welding the goalposts, inspecting every football. The hardworking people that make every Sunday possible. Carhartt is proud to outfit the crews behind the game. Visit carhartt.com slash join the trades to learn more. Having uncontrolled eosinophilic esophagitis or EOE can mean you're stuck in many ways, like cutting your food into tiny pieces. Or stuck chewing food for a long time. You can get with that, with that, with that, with that. Dupixent Dupilumab, a prescription medicine for patients one year and older weighing at least 33 pounds, can help with that.

41:57It's a breakthrough treatment that can reduce inflammation in the esophagus and improve swallowing. You can get with this, or you can get with that, with that. How about this? Dupixent is not a steroid. It proactively treats EOE so you can get ahead of it. Severe allergic reactions, including skin reactions, can occur. Get help right away if you have trouble breathing or wheezing or swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or throat. Tell your doctor of new or worsening joint aches and pain or a parasitic infection or asthma. Don't change or stop other treatments without talking to your doctor. Feeling stuck with EOE?

42:26Start treating with Dupixent. Talk to your gastroenterologist or allergist today about Dupixent. Learn more at Dupixent.com or call 1-844-DUPIXENT. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required. Compatibility and availability varies 18+.

43:06Obviously, it's Kane. Yeah, it's Kane.

43:08Ricky:I don't want to say Kane, but it's Kane. It's Kane. As Phantom Fox says, it's not even close. If you can't pick Kane, and Rude says, why is this even a question? If you can't pick Kane, who is it? It's Son off the left. Yeah, I mean, those are the obvious. Kane and Son. It's Dembele in midfield. There's so many. Dembele in midfield. I still hold a massive torch for Jan. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought he was, you know, that silent leader. Got a massive cock, he has the hand. The hand. He tucks it in his football sock. The hand. The hand. He shagged his bird and now she's dead. He swings his cock around his head.

44:00Jan Vertongue. Tottenham Superman. I've said that on the pod before and people had a go at me for being misogynistic. But it's just what was sung in the... I'm not saying it was a great song.

44:13Ricky:No. I'm just saying that was what we were singing in the stands at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Historical, if anything. Yeah. You know. You wouldn't have a historian, would you? Not for just reporting the news, no. No, exactly. This happened then. It's not useful. I'm just a messenger. Yeah. Pastra Middreams, he says, how are you spending your free time on the weekends that will usually be filled with existential dread and suffering? What have you been doing? What are you doing this weekend, Rick? Well, normally what I do is, you know, the same as most weekends and just scrolling social media and then watching old, well, watching reels of old times at Tottenham where it used to be good, like watching Jan Dutton again.

44:58Ricky:I'm surprised about the amount of Tottenham content that you've been watching and sharing, actually, Rick. I'm starting to understand why you're so miserable and sort of hamstruck by Tottenham. Why? Go on, tell me. I don't even share that much Tottenham content. Yeah, you do. You press, oh, this happened, and then, oh, and T's the fucking same. It'll be like, oh, look at this breakdown of Weissberg. Oh, fuck off, will you? Absolute fucking, like, you go through your messages now. Oh, my name's Ricky. What did I do on the Tuesday after we'd just been beaten by Villa? I listened to Rule the Roost and View from the Lane, and I feel terrible because of it.

45:37That's what happened.

45:38Ricky:Well, because you need to listen. What was you hoping to hear that you didn't see with your own eyes? Well, I thought that maybe I could hang my hat on a few things. That maybe it might be, okay, we didn't do XYZ, but the XG was good. Okay, got that. And how did you feel after listening to it? Terrible. Absolutely terrible. um and this is the thing is what you need what people are going to talk about when they make podcasts is exactly how they feel which is they're right right and you can listen to it or don't listen to it yeah but i the last thing i want to do and i don't understand why people listen to this after we lose i've been accused of being a happy clapper and i'll get it i i wear that like a badge of honor i will yeah but um yeah man i'm not i'm not gonna after like it's like i don't know like watching your bird your bird cheats on you and then someone says oh there's a someone's made a videotape of it do you want to watch it yeah go on then yeah and then you're like oh god it is it is that bad and someone says I've got another angle of it it might it might it might be different like she didn't enjoy it there's a close up of her face and you're watching you're like oh god it's even worse second angle's terrible yeah so that's that's an accurate that's fair isn't it yeah it is fair yeah yeah stop doing it to yourself that is fair Lucero de Paris he says are we being overly optimistic of the level of quality we have in the squad by assuming that Dequi Xavi and Mathers look to come back just as good as they were pre-injury or should we accept that even they may be part of the larger rebuild which will require a lot more patience getting back into the top 8 yeah I think that's fine it could be that's a fair fair assessment of the situation.

47:36I think Xavi especially, because he's young, will come back stronger. Madison and Kulisevsky is a different question. We have to be proved wrong and hopefully be proved wrong. But yeah, all of this is a massive part of a rebuild and those players, certainly not Xavi, but the other two may be a part of an extended clear out. Imagine three months from now, our most

48:03Ricky:in-form players, undroppable players is Madison, Kulusevsky, Xavi and Odeber. When's Odeber back? I don't know. He needs me back now. Wait, wait. I heard November. Well, I say I heard November. PremierLeagueInjuries.com told me he's scheduled to back in November. Well, let's bring that forward, shall we? He was class before he was injured, so that's all good. it's getting back Dave and Deez he says will you ever team up the extra inch guys for a collab podcast called the extra inch sorry the fighting cock the extra inch of cock why do you think they're called the extra inch Dave yeah do you think there's not maybe you didn't realise that we were all together at some stage unite us unite the clans yeah yeah so So, I mean, your head's in the right space, as it stands.

49:05Why, you said you're scared of the extra inch. Oh, me? Yeah, you're scared of the extra inch. Hell no. No? No, no, no, no. What, nothing else to say?

49:15Ricky:I don't really know what else to add, you know. I mean, just make something up, see if you can. Right, okay, I'm in a fantasy league with Windy and Bardi. Are you getting up? NPL, I'm second. Who's top? windy by a couple of a couple of points but I'm not going to say who I'll just say I've never had a gooner in my team I never have gooners in my team oh okay so that's scandalous although it is an open league so you can check sure wow yeah that's in my book null and void if you have gooners 100 % I don't I don't even know your team exists yeah I mean anyone can win but do you want to win in that way?

49:59Yeah. I'm not sure.

50:00Ricky:Yeah. All right, on that, we can wrap this up. Thank you very much, Ricky. Good. And we'll see if we can kind of really squeeze out some content in the next couple of weeks or so. But yeah, thanks for staying with us. We've actually got a very big episode of The Lab coming out on, should be Tuesday afternoon. So sit tight if you want to get that immediately as it comes out go over to the lab on spotify or apple wherever you get your podcasts and follow it because it's an exciting episode i'm looking forward to it immensely i'm excited you're excited yeah very excited good cheers mate bye

50:55Ricky:F-I-G-H-T-I-N-G F-I-G-H-T-I-N-G

51:08Ricky:We're the fighting cock and we don't give a fuck Like a top drawer whore when she don't see box Everybody wanna come and run it but they're funny Like a dummy in the barbie or your mommy Fighting cock and we don't give a shit Everybody knows flat bait's a prick We can get a sticky in the mini, suck a willy When you're getting grilly, yeah, you're gonna bang the milly Fight, fight

51:41Before this, there's this. As you celebrate the game, take a deeper look at its roots. The people growing the grass, paving the lots, welding the goalposts, inspecting every football. The hardworking people that make every Sunday possible. Carhartt is proud to outfit the crews behind the game. Visit carhartt.com slash join the trades to learn more. Having uncontrolled eosinophilic esophagitis or EOE can mean you're stuck in many ways, like cutting your food into tiny pieces. or stuck chewing food for a long time. Dupixent Dupilumab, a prescription medicine for patients one year and older weighing at least 33 pounds can help with that.

52:32It's a breakthrough treatment that can reduce inflammation in the esophagus and improve swallowing. How about this? Dupixent is not a steroid. It proactively treats EOE so you can get ahead of it. Severe allergic reactions, including skin reactions, can occur. Get help right away if you have trouble breathing or wheezing or swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or throat. Tell your doctor of newer worsening joint aches and pain or a parasitic infection or asthma. Don't change or stop other treatments without talking to your doctor. Feeling stuck with EOE? Start treating with Dupixent. Talk to your gastroenterologist or allergist today about Dupixent.

53:06Learn more at Dupixent.com or call 1-844-DUPIXENT.