5 Reasons to Change Your Mind

25:13So you just got to keep evolving. And if you don't, you lose. and that's the evolution of my game. So advice that I gave in Jab, Jab, Jab, Right Hook would look differently today about Twitter because between the time I wrote it and this minute, the game has changed. So just know that it's okay to change. It's okay to kind of move things around but also ask questions. That's the best thing for you to do is ask questions so then you can make the best decision going forward. We change our mind seven times a month. I constantly shit on my own self once a week. Like I emphatically on Monday say it's all about this and literally next Tuesday go, if we ever do that again, we're fit.

25:54I mean, this is real life. This is the truth. You know, we always joke like the admins, a lot of times he'll come up, you know, we'll get on the phone and he'll be like, new rule, new rule, new rule, new rule. And like, it's like a big kind of thing. Can you text Tyler and say new rule? I'm being dead serious. New rule. Here's literally how we're going to do it. New rule. No more. and then three days later, you know, something comes up that proves that it wasn't that smart and yeah, we don't need that new rule anymore. And most people are like, you know, it gets, there's some fatigue to it. But only if you put so much weight into like the rigidness of systems and processes.

26:35I always say that process and systems are there to take thought out of things. And the second I get too habitually ingrained into process, how you take notes, how you do your to-do list, how you organize your email inbox. Like there's efficiency to it. But at the same time, once you rely on the process over the thought, you just become, you know, attached to the process. It takes a lot of thinking out of the situation, creativity out of the situation. You better keep your subjectiveness and your ego at the door because that slows you down and it doesn't make you do. You better fucking move. So I'm always, once I get too close to just like relying on the process, I try and break it and change it up.

27:20If you're relying on the process and having a tough time accepting the change mentality, what you will discover is that most systems will get broken as well as other projects along the way. Let's hear one of the most recent stories about how we went all in on a project. I'll laugh and think about the moment that we pitched him on Interrupted by Gary Vee as a new show and format and we spent a lot of time on thoughtful designs and positioning on that new show and we did one episode and he decided they want to do anymore I'm changing the name of interrupted by yeah Because I just like reading the comments.

27:53I just don't I think it triples down on something I don't want it to so the reality is is that shows now canceled I think that's just a great example or he could have continued to do it because we put this emphasis on it, but he intuitively felt like it wasn't the right thing to do for his brand, so he stopped it. And I think our team does a great job on being unemotional about those changes and continuing to learn and evolve. Unemotional decision-making is what has allowed me the great luxury of standing at this table. I, this is not a table, fuck. I'm comfortable in chaos. That's my happy place.

28:30people are like, how don't you drop balls? I'm like, I drop a shitload of balls. Except some people like to have two balls in the air and not drop them. I like to have 73 and drop 13. I like the net of that. My dad used to get so pissed when I was building Wine Library. He would always be like, fuck. He would say, three months ago, you said Ricky was gonna be the best employee. I'm like, I changed my mind. He's shit, fire him. Or he's like, you said sparkling wine was important and now you just eliminated it from the key spot. I'm like, I changed my mind. Like my ability to only be comfortable in massive chaos has been my biggest asset as an entrepreneur.

29:05I was about as far as you could be down the process of moving to London with Eric Follweiler to help open our office there. And we were in the office, I think it was like about a month away, the move. And that's a pretty big move. I was 25 at the time, 24, 25. I was getting ready to move over to London with a team of five. and Gary just calls me into the office and asks if I want to be his assistant and it was like kind of like well aren't I doing this and he's like well it doesn't have any impact like meaning yes but this is something new and new information and a new situation and new data and And the not necessarily not taking into account, but not letting just because that is the case affect that aspect of taking that role was the first real eye-opening thing.

30:07And you don't think twice or feel bad about it, something like that? Because when I make decisions, I'm making them at that moment and things change. If I emailed my direct reports, my leaders tomorrow and said, we're now selling actual honey. Like we are no longer an agency. We now produce honey. I just bought a honey farm and and you know Paso Robles and and we now sell honey and I just think 80 % of them be like okay like what what am I doing? Like like yes yes comma. So when you build culture and you build trust you can go fast. And so when you put a plan in place if you're a leader and you say we're going to do this and everyone says cool I'm ready to go and then you realize that that isn't the right thing.

30:47most people are probably scared that people are gonna judge them as a flip-flopping leader if they believe that that then is the right thing. Be binary about your decisions. Let me tell you what I mean by that. Don't overthink jumping into your first job and then quit it the next day if it doesn't feel right. It's not a end-all be-all if the first one's not right. That doesn't mean you can't be thoughtful along the way, right? It doesn't mean that you can make a decision, you're doing it and then a couple weeks in even though three weeks earlier it seems so right you're like wait a minute this feels like a waste of time and then even if you declare to your whole world that you're doing this people fear changing their mind out of judgment and then you start to go down a path that just gets too caught up where you're too far away from being able to say actually no this is the right thing i've been presented with new information new data and i'm making this decision.

31:43And, you know, communication goes into a lot of that. But there's this kind of that's happening right now. Like, are we supposed to do what's best for us first or best for other people, even if it's at the detriment of our own self? Though it seems like the ability to change your mind is instilled at birth, this is something you need to work on. Let's hear from Gary's brother, AJ, on his mindset at an early age? I've actually really shifted. I think that I naturally growing up was a bit more focused and put a lot more energy and put a lot more stock into your original thought and opinion. And I thought that if you change your mind, then it just validated that your original opinion was wrong.

32:29And so because Gary is so willing and able to change his opinion and mine, I think there was, you know, Gary and I really don't have a lot of friction. AJ and I, because of our age difference, have almost a brother-father kind of thing going on that's very kind of unique and special. And we've met so many people that are 11 or 12 or 9 or 10 years apart and don't have what we have. You know, it's tough. I mean, I was out of the house when he was 7, right? And so it's just a very unique thing. We have a very, very, very special bond. We nearly never fight and have ever fought over business. If we ever fight, it's over the silliest shit.

33:09It's stuff like board games and pick up basketball, right? I once punched my brother AJ on a basketball court and I've never really said it because I don't want to admit it actually happened. But when there was friction in the early days was probably centered a little bit around the changing your mind concept. And I think what I struggled with the most was how constant it was and how effortless it was, right? It kind of almost, I think what I struggled with was it almost invalidated the original thought and made it really tough for me to accept and receive initial thoughts from Gary. He would say something and be like, well, you're just gonna change your damn mind tomorrow.

33:48Like, why should I even receive this? Why should I take this seriously? But I think as I got more exposure and more experience to business and life and people, I grew to appreciate it a lot more and I felt like I needed a shift and it wasn't necessarily a conscious effort. I didn't say I need to be able to change my mind more. I need to be able to change my mind more. I think it just came from experience and I think it speaks a little bit to the idea of us starting businesses and things like that and whether it's starting a business or starting an initiative within a company. I think that ultimately if you fail or if something is inaccurate, it's okay as long as you adjust and as long as you adjust towards the positive.

34:31This has been historic. Like factories, factories had to adjust to machines. Farmers had to adjust to tractors. You know, retail stores had to adjust to registers that were computers versus cash. This is not complicated. This is historic. Here's the punchline. The market is the market. What is the 54-year-old going to do? Adjust. This episode is brought to you by Accenture. When your advertising operations fall out of sync, everything else follows. Spotify and Accenture are working together to reinvent the rhythm of ad sales, using automation, analytics, and smarter workflows to simplify campaign delivery and access better data across the business.

35:14The result? Less time spent on operations, more time connecting brands with the moments and fandoms that matter most. Learn more at Accenture.com slash Spotify. or lose. Something Gary likes to say before giving advice is, I never think I'm right, because Gary knows he's just stating one man's opinion. In this next chapter, we're going to dive into different perspectives on the topic. Tell me how to save my life. Tell me how to save my life. I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to tell you right now, my guy. Say what's up to my partner, Ryan. How you doing? Pleasure. Ego is usually the driving force behind the deep desire to be right.

35:52I have to be right. And they say like, be selective in your battles, but sometimes peace is better than being right. So if you have the ability to firmly believe something and recognize when you're wrong and admit it and implement change accordingly, it means you have macro strength, not micro stubbornness, so to say. People overthink it and they have ego that I'm the only one that does it best and that nobody's ever good enough. go within humility, tell them the truth, and then if they don't deliver on it, fire. I've watched so many people that are great at their craft never build a business because of ego that they like feeling that they're better at this thing than anybody than actually scaling a business.

36:39It's what I did essentially. I was in finance. I worked for Goldman Sachs for seven years and then pivoted to be in media but women's lifestyle media as a young male. And I was laughed at. You know, people definitely laughed behind my back being like, what is this guy doing? But I knew that, I just knew that I would not be happy being in the corporate America flywheel where it's not solely based on merit. And I wanted to be part of something that what I put into it was hopefully what I got out of it. Or at least I sealed my own fate. Winning is happy, not making more money because you focused only on the tech company.

37:24What are you trying to accomplish? And by the way, it's okay if that shit changes. You know, at 27 you might need money, or a boyfriend or a girlfriend. At 34 you might want to have more work-life balance because you have a child now. At 41 you might need more money because you wasted your money after you had a good, like it's okay for it to change daily. For me, when moving from finance to media, I convinced myself, whether it was true or not, that if I failed, that I can easily go back to finance. Even if I took one step back, I can go back to finance, get a job, get a salary. So I think that you need to think worst case scenario.

38:06And are you OK financially? Are you OK with the lifestyle you might have to lead if you do fail entirely? Do you have a family? Do you have kids? Are you single? Are you know, do you have dependents that you need to make a minimum amount of money in order to support those people? Because that might be a driving force behind taking a certain risk. So I don't think you should. I don't think I'm not saying that you should do that and create fear in your mind. But you need to understand what your your downside is, what your worst case scenario is. And that will help you give you comfort, because if you can convince yourself that you're okay with that downside, you're going to go all in and you're not going to look back.

38:48Gary likes to talk about how he missed out on investing in Uber during the angel round. What we haven't heard is AJ's side of the story. So let's take a look. You know, I guess this is a fun example. You know, Gary and I had the opportunity to invest in the seed round in Uber. Gary talks about it all the time. My most devastating business decisions have been predicated at the moments when I bought my two homes. I passed, I've never said this clearly, I passed on Uber because I bought an apartment. If I just stayed in the apartment I was in for one more year, I would have$400 million that I don't have right now.

39:26That's about as basic as I can say it. And then they re-approached us for the series B and they're like, come on guys, because these are personal friends. They're like, come on guys, like, I know you missed out on the seed, but it's been a little while. We have really good tracks. We would love to have you for the ride. And I think somebody that maybe would be too stuck in the mud would cut their nose to spite their face and not invest. But Gary and I said, you know what? Let's keep our nose intact. Let's bite the bullet. Let's forget about our regret. Let's move forward. We don't want to regret twice.

39:57It's better late than never. And so we ended up investing in Uber in a Series B and did really well because of it. Could have done better at the seed, but that's life. You take your losses along the way. The single biggest reason Vayner X got to where it got to, um, beyond Gary's brand equity and his salesmanship and his, and his public brand is our disproportionate willingness to communicate top down. Right. And so, you know, spending the time and energy to talk to your executive team, as well as your entry level employee that just started two weeks ago. It's about people. When you go from one to five locations, It's about people.

40:34And I think just having an authentic line of communication and an open door policy that people actually believe to be true is massively important when shifting through change. Being the bigger person is not always the easiest thing to do. Let's hear from Mark Yudkin on how Gary shaped his perspective on this. I'm Mark Yudkin. I'm now chief operating officer and general counsel of all of VaynerX. I've known Gary for about 13 to 14 years now. I did a lot of his legal work as outside counsel before VaynerMedia was formed. I did his investment work in Uber and Tumblr and Twitter and Facebook and all that stuff.

41:15So I was a lawyer for those deals. So I've gotten pretty good insight into Gary for the last 13 or 14 years. And it's been a fun ride. I tend to think I'm usually right because I usually am. but uh it's been harder for me to sometimes bite my lip and kind of be the bigger man and walk away even though I know it's the right thing to do um and I think he has taught me that sometimes there's greater benefit to even though you might be right to just kind of walk away and be the bigger man in a situation because the benefits derived later on will far exceed the um advantages now of saying hey, I told you so, or hey, I'm right now in this particular case.

42:00So it's not a particular instance, but I definitely think it's a particular character trait that it was tough for me at first, but to realize that in the end, it's always better to be the bigger person. It's one of the things that I'm spending a lot of time on, one that a lot of people aren't capable of executing, which is how much better life is when you're the bigger man and woman in every situation. No matter if you're right or wrong, no matter what it is, are you capable of swallowing your pride and having the humility to say you're sorry even when maybe it wasn't yours to say you're sorry?

42:36Leadership and happiness really, really, really comes at the ability to focus on one move which is can you beat the bigger person. For example, being a good number two, three, four at VaynerMedia is pretty simple. I'm going to care if you're capable of being the bigger person. Empathy. A leader that leads. Positive energy. You're not... You can sell a trillion dollars in my company. If you're a dickface, you're gonna lose. Changing your mind shows growth. Changing your mind shows vulnerability. And vulnerability is one of the strongest things that you can have these days. I mean, everybody is so guarded and so defensive.

43:17I think right now, especially, we're seeing a huge moment where a lot of people are being asked to change their mind. And you could say that it's, you know, one political extremist and you're trying to get them all the way to the other extreme, but it's not, you know, it's like people within even a small faction, just asking for a little mind chip. And I think that, you know, that shows tremendous growth and an ability to really become malleable and allow yourself to be shaped by experiences because we are shaped by our experiences. The person you are today is shaped by what you experienced before.

43:51So why shouldn't you change? Your life is not static. Your life is never going to be the same thing over and over. So to expect yourself never to change your mind and never change at all is completely unrealistic anyway. Gary believes that speed is one of the most important things an entrepreneur needs to be comfortable with. Claude Silver, VaynerMedia's chief heart officer, talks about how speed is crucial to VaynerMedia's success. As of this announcement, the next most important role in this company underneath me. And so it's a big one. So as of today, starting on Monday, we now have a chief heart officer.

44:25And that chief heart officer is actually here. So I think we should grab our chief heart officer.

44:38You know, coming from the larger advertising agencies that I was at for for years and what seemed like centuries. Things go slowly. Change takes a very long time. And there are a lot of layers and levels and a lot of T's to cross and I's to dot. And one of the things that was very apparent to me year one at Vayner is that we go fast here. We go faster than fast. I mean, I believe that we actually create speed. Speed is the game. And if you can't execute fast, you can't win because by the time you execute on your promise, the world fucking moved on you. So I really had to learn how to jog and be very comfortable in a jog and then know when I needed to sprint.

45:25And now I'm so used to it that I actually expect other people to be able to sprint just like I'm sprinting. And I have to realize, and I'm sure Gary has to realize this every day, not everyone is going to be where you are all the time, which lends itself to patience. I know I'm onto something so fundamentally different and I know that I can inspire people to do it because it's gonna have the empire part too. See, that's what people don't get. The reason I'm gonna win is because I've got both. The honey part means that you wanna go change the world. The empire part means you'll do it at all costs.

46:03I'm neither. So really being okay with where people are, being patient enough, feeding and nurturing them enough, encouraging them, you know, leading by example so that they get it. Because when someone finally gets that speed of how we do it at Vayner, like they get high. It's an amazing feeling. Like we spend so much time overthinking instead of doing, do it, then know, then decide. Speed, it's all speed. Like you gotta go fast. That's how you get shit done. That's how you figure stuff out. So speed without control is reckless. His speed has control, meaning it's either been a honed process as he's done it a hundred times before.

46:51So therefore he can. Right. Let's say he's evaluating a company to invest in. Well, he's invested in hundreds. Right. So he could tell in 15 minutes if it's the right company or not. It looks like an impulsive investment. It's not an impulsive investment. He's got he honed it over years. I find it super fascinating that people think fast decisions can be reckless because they themselves tend to question their decisions and they're imposing their insecurity as judgment on others who have pattern recognition, experience, conviction and confidence in decisions they make. I make very fast decisions when I have all the data and I have full confidence in my decision.

47:29I make very slow decisions when I don't have the data or I haven't figured it out yet. Demonizing fast decision making as reckless is laughable. The judge of that tends to be the insecure. Some decisions don't take a lot of strategy, just a gut feeling. In this chapter, we're going to see how entrepreneurs can be more conscious about using intuition and gut decisions. So there's something that Gary used to say a lot, that the magic is in the gray. The world is gray. I play in the gray because the world is gray. And I think that really just comes from the spirit of always being ready to pivot. And whether that's because the marketplace is telling you to pivot, or it's culture telling you to pivot, or it's Gary telling me directly that I need to pivot, or me telling him that I think we need to pivot on something, gives that both core strength, but then the flexibility to just roll with the punches, get stuff done, and really harness the power of your gut, as opposed to sitting and waiting for things to change.

48:38It's very much the, you know, be the change because you're smart and capable. Everybody's so absolute, you know? The world is gray. I think the interesting thing about Gary and all good leaders is just clear communication. So when Gary really feels strongly about something, when he is like, trust me, six months ago, we are going to double down on TikTok and here are the reasons why, you trust and you definitely fall into line. And there are other times that he's like, I have, you know, reading tea leaves and whatnot or like reading the marketplace or you know conversations like I'm feeling something now tell me how that will work in this place he's also open to that and then the third he'll he'll definitely be in a conversation and he'll say like actually Gary we're seeing like the opposite happen and sometimes he's like I don't care screw it we'll write our own feature and sometimes he's like oh super interesting okay don't disregard what I just said but if you're set in your ways and you're not open to others ideas or others thoughts or others opinions and immediately that they say something and it's oh your opinion is different than mine you're wrong um I think that is a terrible way to be and I and I feel I've never I've never been that way and and obviously I you mature and get better and Gary was a major part of that where you see him he has that mentality where everybody's opinion is allowed there are no bad ideas there may be bad ideas but I still want to hear your bad ideas so I think it's being open to changing your mind on all things that really matters and not just kind of changing your mind or being set in your ways I think the openness to things is what really matters what people when people hear in in the ad world, 2 ,000 to 4 ,000 pieces of content, they think it's schizophrenic, they think it's throwing it up against a wall, they think it's not quality.

50:43There's a lot of negative connotation on it in the creative space, which is too bad, because I actually think the thesis that I'm talking about is going to be the golden era of creativity. I'm in a discipline that's very disciplined, right? There's a lot of process, there's a lot of ways of working, there's a lot of methodologies to the way we approach things, but I think despite that, I've always gone with what makes the most sense, you know, intuitively, like what do you feel in your heart and, and what makes sense to, to you as a professional, to you as a human being, to you as a consumer. And I think that that's one of the reasons Gary and I bonded, you know, cause for as much, um, discipline as we bring to it, a lot of what we do, this is marketing.

51:24It's common sense. It's common sense. And, and with that common sense comes human intuition and you have to lean into that. And And I think that I've been most successful when I've been able to do that. You know, but you have to go with the things that kind of feel right and that really resonate with you as an individual, you know, because I think that that's where the truth kind of lies. And here's the good news, we're going through this at Vayner right now, I'm looking at James and Mark, we had this big meeting and I was like, like in the beginning and the end, I was like, look, I'm changing the direction of our creative output and our strategic and creative output.

51:57And it's super okay if you don't agree with me because I know it's fairly rogue. and so like come and see me and I'll get you a job doing what you want to do for more money somewhere else. This doesn't have to be bad. Back to personal. I don't want bad. I just don't want to go out of business. I'm definitely, I'm in charge of running the business. I'm going to change the direction and you know, you're a hockey player. I just, and we've been playing hockey and now I'm saying we're playing basketball. Not everybody's going to transfer that skill and that's okay and I think that's what you do. You can read about push-ups all day but until you start doing them, you won't improve.

52:31In this chapter, we'll hear how doing always beats thinking. I joke about the DMs that I get that say, Andy, how do I start a podcast? And I joke because the answer is really easy. It's you start, you know, and I think I've really started to analyze my own actions and my own thoughts and ideas. And as I've consumed Gary's content and I watch Gary's content, there's just such a big difference between doing and thinking and pontificating. You know, I think so many people enjoy the comfort of thinking and strategizing and reading and planning and ideating versus just jumping in and doing it. Enough listening.

53:09Start doing shit. Don't be scared. And if you're scared, find somebody who's not scared. Make them your partner. Like it's action. It's going. It's doing. I think there's lots of people that want to make changes in their lives and they think they're doing it by planning out how they're going to have a 30 day diet and that they're going to go keto and they're going to have no alcohol and how awesome it's going to be and how much weight they're going to lose versus just immediately saying, no, I'm not going to eat that pasta because now I'm on a keto diet. But it's just implementing it right then and there, doing it, starting it, pressing the button versus planning, plotting, strategizing.

53:48This episode is brought to you by Accenture. When your advertising operations fall out of sync, everything else follows. Spotify and Accenture are working together to reinvent the rhythm of ad sales. Using automation, analytics, and smarter workflows to simplify campaign delivery and access better data across the business. The result? Less time spent on operations, more time connecting brands with the moments and fandoms that matter most. Learn more at Accenture.com slash Spotify. Fuck your gonna. Go do it. Do shit. Learn. Put in the work. I think the hardest thing to do is make decisions. That's why people don't change their mind.

54:30Indecisiveness is like so brutal. and that that I think getting past indecisiveness is the hardest thing and that's changing your mind because a lot of decisions as you grow like growth is changing your mind so like when you get when you're presented with new data or new experiences or you've gone through something and now you know more and you have to make a decision to change most people just don't make the decision they're not actively deciding to not change they're just simply not deciding to change you know I always hear people like, should we do this, should we do that? They're crippled by their indecisiveness and their worries about total reaction.

55:08It's not what you do, it's how you follow up on that mistake. It's not how you spill the milk, it's how you clean it up. You know, it's really funny, I always talk about don't be in the middle, don't be half pregnant, I pull from opposite directions, I have a lot of what is interesting about me is I see very, very different people associate with my message, people that genuinely don't agree on a single thing politically or socially because they're hearing different things for me and I bounce around and I've been thinking a lot about it. Parenting philosophy, entrepreneurship philosophy, obviously political philosophy, we are pulling further and further apart from each other.

55:44People are pulling in such opposite directions yet I feel like there's so many merits and so many different nuanced points of view and I just think that we've become so one-dimensional and so absolute. I think we have to start talking more about allowing people to change their mind. I think if we make changing your mind something that is put on a pedestal instead of demonized, you know, I think that would really help us. Gary doesn't believe in one subjective opinion being the person that can say that idea is the one that should be executed. especially if it has minimal financial risk to it. It's like, do them all and see what the consumer thinks.

56:31Let, you know, find right instead of guess right. And our industry as a whole is much more, you know, guess right versus find right because they'll say that it's schizophrenia or they'll say that it's throwing things against the wall until it sticks or it's not on brand or whatever it may be where, you know, We don't necessarily believe in that as much because we think that the consumer should decide what is quality versus three people in a boardroom deciding what is quality based on what their opinion of quality is. And I think a lot about that now with my content, which is why am I so comfortable trying things.

57:13I posted a video yesterday that was upside down on Instagram. I don't know how many of you saw it. and then a couple days earlier I made a video where I just said like this post like 58 times in a row and I've been using this hashtag in the two posts that you know always be testing and it's really my way to give you a nod of giving you permission the like like like video did okay the upside down video yesterday did not do well and that excites me and I'm excited to spend more time over the next year or two of trying things completely left field to hopefully inspire people to, you know, what I'm so unbelievably concerned about for everybody in here who's creating content, whether on YouTube or Instagram or other places, is you've become so obsessed with the number associated with the post that you're not actually even putting out anymore what you want to put out.

58:07You're putting out what you know is gonna work. I mean, too many of you are not doing things because you're worried about how it's gonna make you look because you're late, so you're not starting, which is always a bad idea, right? It's a huge thing that's happening. I think this, you know, I'm always thinking about the sound bite that may help you. I'm pumped right now because I have a funny feeling two or three of you are like, fuck, maybe I should, you know, I get it. I understand brand. I understand shit, I'm supposed to be this and I have less than all these. But if you don't start, you don't get it.

58:36And by the way, cream always rises to the top. If you're so good, right, you'll be there. Well, guys, you've made it this far. Thanks for watching until the end. Now we'll take it over to Gary. The thing that baffles my mind is that people don't realize that there is no Monday morning quarterbacking in life. You can talk on Monday morning and be upset what your quarterback did. Sam Darnall, I need you this year. But in real life, when you decide to buy real estate in the Hamptons and it doesn't work out or buy a$5 sneaker and become a flipper instead of a lawyer, you don't know how your life plays out as a lawyer.

59:13So you're either an optimistic or a pessimistic person. The optimistic person goes and does flip life, it doesn't work out and they realize, well, I would have done the law thing, I would have made some more money but I would have been so unhappy and I'm glad because now I'm this thing, I'm a teacher in this high school and I'm super happy. The pessimistic person does great in flipping, does a million a year and decides they would have made three million a year as being a lawyer and that's the only thing they value is money so they fucking lost. You decide, you decide if you're winning and losing before it even happens.

59:44So like, can we just once and for all make people understand that they have no idea that knowing what the right decision is at the time you're making the decision is humanly impossible?

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