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Podcast Summary: The GaryVee Audio Experience - Episode: 68 Minutes to Start Your Monday Morning Off Right
Episode Overview In this episode of *The GaryVee Audio Experience*, Gary Vaynerchuk discusses a prevalent mistake among ambitious individuals: the failure to produce enough content where attention resides. He emphasizes the necessity of being active across various platforms, explains the current landscape of branding versus sales, and discusses the impending audio revolution.
Key Topics Discussed
- The Importance of Content Production
- Ambition vs. Inaction: Many ambitious individuals are not creating enough content.
- Platform Relevance: To be relevant today, one needs to be active on 7-10 apps including LinkedIn, YouTube, and TikTok.
- Content Types: Importance of producing content in written, audio, and video forms.
- Branding vs. Sales
- Branding is Underpriced: Vaynerchuk argues that branding is significantly undervalued compared to direct sales tactics.
- Long-Term Focus: He urges listeners to focus on building long-term brand equity rather than short-term sales conversions.
- Overcoming Insecurity
- Fear of Judgment: Insecurity often stops people from posting; they prioritize others' opinions over their own ambitions.
- Mental Barriers: Discusses how people get paralyzed by negative feedback or the fear of what others might say.
- Free Distribution and Opportunity
- Cost of Distribution: Today, distribution of content is free. It does not require significant financial investment.
- TikTok as an Opportunity: Highlights TikTok as a massive organic opportunity for content creators.
- Building a Career from Passion
- Leveraging Interests: Encourages individuals to turn personal passions into careers, stressing that many opportunities exist for those who are willing to create content around what they love.
- Case Studies: Shares anecdotes of individuals who have successfully transitioned from jobs they disliked to careers centered around their passions.
- The Coming Audio Revolution
- Voice Technology: Vaynerchuk predicts a shift towards voice technology and emphasizes the need to adapt to this change.
- Future of Interaction: Foresees a future where communication will be less visual and more auditory.
Key Takeaways
- Produce More Content: The quickest route to achieving personal and professional goals is to increase content output across various platforms.
- Branding as a Priority: Brands need to shift focus from immediate sales to building their reputation over time.
- Embrace the New Era: The current digital landscape presents an unparalleled opportunity for those who adapt and create content effectively.
- Overcome Insecurities: Understanding that judgment from others has minimal impact can free individuals from self-imposed barriers to posting.
Conclusion Gary Vaynerchuk's insights provide a roadmap for anyone looking to capitalize on the current digital landscape. The emphasis on content creation, branding, and overcoming personal insecurities serves as a motivational call to action for listeners aiming to make a mark in their personal or professional lives.
Additional Notes
- Call to Action: Vaynerchuk encourages listeners to start producing content immediately, reminding them that they should not let fear or judgment hold them back.
- Future Trends: Pay attention to the evolution of audio platforms and prepare for shifts in how content is consumed and created.
This episode serves as both a motivational speech and a practical guide to navigating the complexities of the modern digital landscape.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Importance of Timing and Branding
0:42 to 4:36
Gary discusses timing in life and the importance of branding over sales.
“Everyone thinks that they already know you and think they can just talk to you whenever they want.”
Content Creation Across Platforms
4:36 to 7:22
The necessity of producing content on multiple platforms for success.
“The quickest gateway, the quickest execution for everybody here to get whatever the hell they're trying to get out of here today is to produce content on 10 websites.”
Understanding Media and Communication
7:22 to 9:46
Gary elaborates on the importance of media and communication in business.
“And you guys have heard me, if you follow me say this.”
The New Era of Opportunity
9:46 to 12:54
The shift in how businesses can be built and the low cost of entry to succeed.
“Direct mail, newspaper, radio ads, television.”
Distribution is Free
12:54 to 14:02
Gary emphasizes that distribution has become free, changing the landscape of success.
“Like it's not like some big profound statement, but let me say it nice and slow.”
The Power of Perspective in Opportunity
14:02 to 14:58
Learn how perspective shapes your ability to seize opportunities.
“my question and my dream every time I speak is, can I get one person in this room to get their peace?”
The Shift to Voice Technology
14:59 to 17:48
Understand the implications of shifting from visual to voice-based tech.
“I think it's on the back of the current internet, which is wildly visual.”
Overcoming Insecurity and Judgment
17:49 to 19:25
Discover how to overcome fears of judgment when sharing online.
“it has led me to realize wait a minute, there's the other component of everything I said.”
Finding Your Voice and Passion
19:26 to 22:19
Learn how to leverage your passions to create engaging content.
“Somebody leaves a post that you look ugly and you cripple and fold like a cheap chair.”
Breaking Free from Insecurity
22:20 to 23:55
Explore the importance of self-esteem in pursuing your goals.
“The problem is you don't live my life because I wrote a book in 2009 called Crush It that laid this out and I get to live the best life now where I get three to six emails a day of people that tell me this exact story.”
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The Necessity of Content Creation
23:56 to 26:18
Understand why producing content is crucial for success in today’s world.
“And then I have a company that helps Fortune 500 companies navigate that world.”
Embracing Change and Taking Action
26:19 to 28:03
Learn the importance of acting on advice and embracing opportunities.
“we have a very big disconnect between where I sit on this and where you sit on this.”
The Power of Merit in Business
28:03 to 29:39
Discover the importance of merit in business and personal growth.
“I'm not cursing today, because Nagy asked me, but you cursed.”
Understanding the Shift to Digital Media
29:40 to 31:34
Learn about the transition from traditional media to digital platforms.
“the feed of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, it's just one feed.”
Content Creation and Monetization Strategies
31:35 to 35:08
Explore strategies for content creation and the right timing for monetizing.
“There's 330 million of us out here in this country, in 7.7 billion.”
Scaling a Business with Culture in Mind
35:09 to 38:31
Understand the importance of culture in scaling a successful business.
“Like there is a variable in everything I've just said.”
Finding Your Passion at a Young Age
38:32 to 41:25
Learn how to explore interests and find your passion in life.
“I'm not really like a huge business guy.”
Turning Dreams into Reality in Sports
41:26 to 42:00
Hear about the journey of turning aspirations into achievements in sports.
“And now he's DRock and people like call their video people DRock.”
Pursuing Coaching Dreams and Business Balance
42:00 to 43:16
Learn about the struggle of balancing a growing business with career aspirations in coaching.
“So about a year and a half ago, we started doing a podcast, live podcast on Facebook, kind of started taking off.”
Dealing with Pressure and Time Perspective
43:16 to 44:20
Discover strategies to manage stress by changing your perspective on time and success.
“So many people in this room, how many people here own their own business, great.”
Combatting Industry Challenges as a Female Advisor
44:20 to 46:28
Explore how to navigate challenges in a male-dominated financial industry and focus on execution.
“It gets a lot less stressful when you're thinking in 14 year terms.”
Building a Supportive Dream-Pursuing Platform
46:28 to 47:48
Learn about creating platforms that help others pursue their dreams despite self-doubt.
“And then I bought Google AdWords and I was spending more money on Google AdWords than I was spending on direct mail and newspaper ads and that was stupid.”
Effective Email Communication for Networking
47:48 to 48:44
Understand how to reach out effectively for networking opportunities.
“Essentially why I'm here is I want to schedule a meeting with you.”
Leveraging LinkedIn for B2B Marketing
48:44 to 51:36
Gain insights on how to utilize LinkedIn ads effectively for B2B marketing.
“I'm the dude with the weird shirt that launched today.”
Overcoming Job Market Barriers for Young Professionals
51:36 to 56:00
Discuss strategies to overcome barriers in the job market and pursue desired careers.
“and have unlimited ways to figure out how to do it.”
The Value of Self-Awareness in Entrepreneurship
56:00 to 56:40
Explore the importance of self-awareness and its impact on entrepreneurial success.
“and just to maintain your lowest possible cost of living so you can start the thing that makes you happy.”
Navigating Entrepreneurial Challenges
56:40 to 58:00
Discuss the realities of entrepreneurship beyond social media portrayals.
“And that time, you know, I'm fortunate enough to have Yeah, that's right.”
Creating Engaging Content
58:00 to 59:10
Learn the significance of personal content in building a brand.
“We created a content creation, videography, photography company, social media.”
Maximizing TikTok for Growth
59:10 to 1:01:40
Discover strategies to leverage TikTok for business growth.
“I really think people need to think about that.”
Building a Searchable Content Library
1:01:40 to 1:05:50
Understand the importance of creating a searchable database of content for value.
“like the trending page, and the biggest mistake people make is, they hear this, they go home, they're like, screw it, I'm gonna do it.”
The Future of Voice Technology and Convenience
1:05:50 to 1:06:55
Explore how voice technology will shape future interactions and the convenience it brings.
“And I'll actually reply because the data has been structured.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I believe that right there is the definition of entrepreneurship. It's when you love your game more than what the game gives you. Unless you are producing content that is meaningful to an audience on this device across seven or eight platforms, podcast, LinkedIn, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr, like unless you're producing content in written form, audio form, or video form across seven to ten apps on this device, unless you were relevant on those 10 apps, LinkedIn, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, if you were not, you were fundamentally irrelevant in society. This is the Gary Vee Audio Experience.
0:41I love you back, mom. Yeah, exactly. Everyone thinks that they already know you and think they can just talk to you whenever they want. They can. I'm like, I love you back. I think social came along, the internet of evolution came along at a very good, life is so much about timing. I was born in the former Soviet Union and if I was my grandfather, I'd probably be in a Soviet jail during this time of my life and I'm not kidding because both my grandfathers spent time in a Soviet jail. I happen to have the serendipity of timing where the internet came along and created a framework that allows people to interact at scale.
1:22I disproportionately enjoy human beings. so they can come up to me like I like being accessible. We have never lived in a time where brand was this underpriced. Let me explain. What is the biggest difference between me and a lot of people that look like me or me and the companies that I work with and I get them there? It is the fact that I do branding, not sales. Branding is different than sales. I love when people come up to me like, Gary, I'm a marketer. I'm like, cool, what do you do? Well, I am affiliate marketer, and it's conversion-based, top of the, I'm like, you're a salesman, bro. This is a very important thing to understand, because I know there's people sitting here who have$11 million business and are super happy and aren't even on social media.
2:11I get that, but what you're not factoring in is what happens next. To me, what's most important is not today. I stand up here and so unbelievably appreciative of that reception that I just got and knowing how many of you came here to hear me speak, but I promise you, as I breathe here right now, I recognize that literally everything I did an hour ago and back is irrelevant if I'm unable to execute going forward. Tomorrow, if I start making the wrong decisions and not executing, begins the vulnerability of unwinding everything I've done. And I think we all understand in society, we react much heavier to mistakes than we do to successes.
2:51The reason I'm pushing that you're irrelevant if you're not here is I don't think everybody here, including myself, has factored in how much more attention is going here. Let me promise you this. No matter what you think about technology, your kids on iPads all day, you always on the phone, nobody talking to each other, how you judge kids because they don't shake people in the hand and look in the eye and all the other horse shit that demonizes technology. Right this second, the way we interact with technology is the most basic you will ever see in your life. 10 years from now, every one of these phones, every one of these video game platforms, every one of these websites are gonna seem like a fucking beeper and MySpace.
3:37You have to understand this, here's why. There is nobody here pot committed enough to this, including myself. There's nobody in this theater right now pot committed to this enough, including myself. When I say pot committed to this, what do I mean? I mean every person in this room needs to take a substantial step back and understand, am I producing enough pictures, videos, written words in these platforms to achieve what I want? And the answer, and I'll save you time, is no for everybody and for somebody who's putting out 85 pieces of content a day across audio, video, and written word a day, my answer is staggeringly no.
4:23Meanwhile, there are people here who take four and a half hours to figure out a perfect Instagram post because they want it to look good when somebody lands on their fucking profile. It's true.
4:41The quickest gateway, the quickest execution for everybody here to get whatever the hell they're trying to get out of here today is to produce content on 10 websites. The quickest way for you to get what you want in your life is to produce videos, pictures, and written words across Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, podcast, your website, email, text messaging platform, period. You know what's crazy? I literally want to say right now, thank you London, I'm out. It is like, I'm thrilled to go into the mindset, I'm thrilled to tell you, and if you follow me on Instagram, this is where I've taken most of my content, I'm thrilled to tell you that the reason you're not producing enough content is unfortunately you value other people's opinions more than your own ambition and happiness, that literally pants 47 can leave a content that you're ugly and it makes you stop posting.
5:38I can go into that, I can go into a million other things, but I make this very clear and obvious. The reason I am just beginning to succeed in my ambitions is because today is the least amount of content that I will produce because I will produce more tomorrow and more the next day. You have to understand, media dictates everything, right? There's a specific reason that when there is a coup in a country that the army goes and takes over the TV network and the newspaper. Communication is the game. Maybe because of being born in the Soviet Union and raised in the US, I had this paradox of being fascinated by a closed and open system of communication, maybe because I'm an extrovert and I talk a lot, I don't know why, but something came natural to me my whole life, which is communication.
6:30What are the things that make people do things, right? What I'm fascinated by is the democratization of media. What I'm fascinated by is that everybody here, how many people here have been following me for more than one year? Raise your hand. The fact that 90 % of this audience knows that all I want you to do is run Facebook and Instagram ads and you still aren't, makes me want to punch all of you in your fucking face.
6:58I mean, literally, all I've been asking you to do for the last two years is run Facebook and Instagram ads and you fuckfaces still aren't. And I say this because I put it on film because I'm gonna run this exact video against you in five years on some platform telling you that you missed the golden era of Facebook and Instagram because now it's appropriately priced. And you guys have heard me, if you follow me say this. I regret that I wasn't able to build my dad's business bigger because I didn't spend enough on Google. I didn't spend enough. I had it figured out. It was called Google AdWords.
7:34It was working. yet I still was doing newspapers and direct mail and radio and television because I didn't understand the context of the moment that I was living in. Hey everybody, I hope you're enjoying the podcast right now. Make sure you follow the podcast. That's why I'm interrupting. Let's keep going on this show but follow the podcast. It'll make my mom super happy. We really need to have a conversation in here about judgment. The far majority of you will not go home today and start posting more on Instagram and LinkedIn and Facebook and Twitter, not because you don't get it. I love when people are like, Gary, I didn't grow up with this technology.
8:10I don't get it. I'm like, that's nice, Sue. You didn't grow up driving and you figured it out. It is very cute that you tell me you didn't grow up with this and that's why you don't get it. I am wildly smart enough to understand that you are bright enough to spend two hours on an app to figure it out. The reason you're not posting or doing is because there's insecurity about what you're going to say. You've got your perspective.
8:42I just want to be happy. Don't you want to be happy?
8:49The fact that we sit here in 2020 and the maturity of the social web and these opportunities and there are still two platforms right this second that requires zero dollars for you to start communicating what you want to happen in the world, I think is remarkable. That doesn't even take into account the fact that Facebook ads, YouTube pre-rolls, this new Spotify ad product that is gonna have hosts read, live reads like the old radio game for podcasts, Facebook, or Twitter. Twitter's appropriately priced, but everything else I just mentioned to you, the ads are underpriced. The cost of spending$1 ,000 on these platforms to get people to see something is underpriced.
9:35I really am desperate, with even the tone and tenor that I'm bringing to this talk, I'm desperate for people to understand how wild this is. I want to remind everybody, for everybody who raised their hand in the first group, like myself, the way you built a business or brought awareness, if you're 43 and older, in the way we grew up, was by spending a lot of money. Ads cost money. Direct mail, newspaper, radio ads, television. That cost money. It was a very high cost of entry to build brand. Brand is the whole game. I think when I analyze what's going on in the business world and with people, I think most people are transactional.
10:18I believe, how many people here are entrepreneurs? Raise your hands. I believe the majority of the hands that just went up, that when I look at the delta between between the ones who've won and the ones who've won less than they've wanted to, I put them always in my mind into two groups. One, one group is transactional, AKA deeply care about the money in the short term, and the second group is looking to build brand, AKA reputation in perpetuity, and are more concerned about playing it out in the long term. What is exciting for me right now is that this device, this device, like the fact from this young man down and up, every one of us has a device in our hand that is a computer that is actually more powerful than the computer that Ronald Reagan had when he was running the free world.
11:13It really is interesting, it really is. I think, again, what I'm really trying to establish in this talk this afternoon, this morning, is I don't think people have quantified the opportunity. I struggle, regardless of circumstance, with people dwelling or complaining in a world where the internet is free, has no idea who you are, could care less, it's right there, and it becomes a game of skill, not necessarily finances, to actually win. It's interesting to me. It's interesting to me that you can be in the retail business overnight by setting up a Shopify account, which costs nothing when that same action to sell something 30 years ago meant that you had to sign a lease and build out a store and rely on the local traffic that walked by.
12:02It scares me and excites me that the biggest music company in the world, Spotify, was built in Sweden by a kid. And on and on and on and you've heard every story. but more importantly for every ridiculous story we've seen of Instagram or Facebook or Uber or Spotify, there are hundreds of thousands of stories of people with wins that are micro versions. I actually think the most unhealthy thing in entrepreneurship and opportunity is the big stories that everybody thinks they have to build a billion dollar company. I think we do not talk enough about the practical$150 ,000 a year,$300 ,000 a year, $700 ,000 a year business that you genuinely love what you do and you can live your life being happy and financially sound and what the cost of entry to be able to do that is in today's environment, which once again, let me say very slow, between putting out a media company, if you decide to put that on a WordPress or a Squarespace, a retail company on the back of a Shopify, you could start a radio show that is global on the back of just uploading something you record on your memos on your phone and upload onto Spotify and Apple and SoundCloud.
13:20My friends, distribution is free.
13:26I know it's a nerdy thing. Like it's not like some big profound statement, but let me say it nice and slow. Distribution is free. It used to cost a fortune. Now what you put inside of it is the variable of your success, not your financial capabilities to create the distribution. You have, like, I wish we could zoom in. I literally have goosebumps on my neck right now. No, but really, I really do. It's like a very, I will live my last breath trying to get people to understand this is remarkable. This is a game of perspective. Are you educated or capable of seeing it from the lens that I'm speaking about today, which is the barrier to reach the end person, whether you're a financial advisor and trying to get to a client, whether you sell bow ties, whether you wanna be, how about the fact if you wanna be a professional football player, and now there's all these websites where you can upload your film because the scout didn't come to your tiny, tiny town, and now you actually can be discovered.
14:32Like, everything has changed. my question and my dream every time I speak is, can I get one person in this room to get their peace? For me, if you are not disproportionately happy sitting in this room professionally, which will trickle into your actual life, you have to take a step back and understand this perspective. So, I think we're living through the greatest era ever for opportunity. I think it's on the back of the current internet, which is wildly visual. I'm very aware that the audio revolution of our society is coming. What do I mean by that is how many people here have a Google Home or an Alexa in their house?
15:12Just raise it high, I'm curious. Raise it high, I want people to see this. Google and Alexa, look around. It's a real number. Now, granted, most people are just telling jokes with their Alexa or listening to music. But I want to remind everybody that the first killer app on the iPhone for the first year was that app that looked like you were drinking a beer. if you remember. It takes some time for the apps to catch up to the platform. But we are all very close to being in an era where we order a pizza or where we get our plumber or how and where we navigate by talking to a voice device, not to our phone.
15:51As voice becomes the platform and less happens on this, which seems foreign now because we all live in it, but I wanna remind you we used to not live in it and I wanna remind everybody here, your technology likes to move. When, when, not if, when you start doing a lot of things that you do on your phone right now start happening on a voice device, it will no longer be visual and written, which will lead to less opportunity to grab attention to the current opportunity landscape, which I'm gonna remind everybody is quite remarkable. Because if you've got a local bakery now and you can do a really good job on LinkedIn and TikTok for free, or on Instagram with money, when in a decade we go into voice and I say, Alexa, send me six muffins to the office, Amazon gets to decide which muffins come to the office.
16:46Now, if you did such a good job building brand, and I knew about Carol's muffins, and I said, Alexa, send me six Carol's muffins to the office, you've now accomplished your task. I spend 100 ,000 % of my time on brand. I want people to know my name. I want people to know the name of the things I do. VaynerMedia, my agency. When we killed Mr. Peanut yesterday, which a lot of you heard about, that is us doing brand. That makes you think about planters. You weren't thinking about it prior to what we did yesterday. We think about it. It's all brand. and so I just want you to get your long tail of it.
17:30And this is what's led me to the most interesting conversations of my career because as a businessman I never thought I would get into categories like parenting and insecurities and self-esteem. But as somebody who just spoke all that and has done that pretty much every day 600 times a day on the internet for the last decade, it has led me to realize wait a minute, there's the other component of everything I said. I can show every one of you what to do. I've just sat here and told you 100%, not 99%, the two attention arbitrage platforms of our society right now. If every person here went home and made five to seven pictures and videos a day on both TikTok and LinkedIn, within a year, something good would happen for the far majority of you.
18:1999 % of you won't post on either once after this talk. The question to me became why? That led to the next part. We really need to have a conversation in here about judgment. The far majority of you will not go home today and start posting more on Instagram and LinkedIn and Facebook and Twitter, not because you don't get, I love when people are like, Gary, I didn't grow up with this technology. I don't get it. I'm like, that's nice, Sue. You didn't grow up driving and you figured it out. It is very cute that you tell me you didn't grow up with this and that's why you don't get it. I am wildly smart enough to understand that you are bright enough to spend two hours on an app to figure it out.
19:08The reason you're not posting or doing is because there's insecurity about what you're gonna say. You go very deep into who's gonna care what I'm gonna say. What would I say? Who cares what I think? Or even worse, the thing that breaks my heart the most, you actually do post something. Somebody leaves a post that you look ugly and you cripple and fold like a cheap chair. So that's what I spend my time on now. Trying to figure out how to get people to realize that the judgment of others has zero actual impact in their lives, they have zero context on your actual life, and how do I get you to understand that perspective which would then lead to you speaking?
19:50And when I say speaking, let me break this down. Let me take out the other excuse of why you, for yourself and your business, aren't posting. Not everybody is great on camera. I get that. Not everybody is so wildly charismatic and very good looking. I get it. However, on the flip side, I am incapable of writing. It's not my natural skill. I struggle with reading and writing. It's not my skill. Plenty of people here are incredible writers and it is an incredible opportunity to go write six to 15 sentences together around a thought on LinkedIn and hit post. Others can work in Photoshop and make a picture.
20:34Others enjoy. I don't. I was born in the Soviet Union and grew up in a very Eastern European household. I think there's like eight pictures of me in my entire youth. We didn't take photos. So it doesn't come natural to me. On the other hand, there are people in here who took 97 photos on their iPhone yesterday. There are plenty of people here who are great at taking photos. My question here today, my friends, is very simple. When are you going to start talking? What are you waiting for? if you are not communicating you don't exist I believe that if you are not communicating you do not exist more importantly communicate about what you love what scares me about the long tail of the internet is I know there's somebody sitting in here who's watched every episode of Friends okay deeply loves Friends can't get enough in their own mind of debating Rachel and Ross loved the show Watch it every night to go to sleep too.
21:35And I know they make 49, 62, 88,$103 ,000 a year doing something they don't like. And I know that if they started a podcast about friends every day when they went home, instead of consuming content to escape the fact that they don't like their job, if they created content around the thing they love, that after 24, 36, 48 months, that along could have came Netflix and been a sponsor of that podcast that would allow them to actually leave that job they hate and now be a full-time friends podcaster. You don't believe that. I understand that. That seems like a far-fetched story to you. The problem is you don't live my life because I wrote a book in 2009 called Crush It that laid this out and I get to live the best life now where I get three to six emails a day of people that tell me this exact story.
22:32Whether it's about pickles.
22:36People like pickles. I do too. I eat pickles like crazy. Star Trek. Esports don't even get me started because I used to push it a lot and people have gone completely and made real careers in that. Just stuff. I just, I just really, really, really hope you hear me today. Whether it's for yourself, whether you're a top executive in your organization and the company still does direct mail or print or still sponsors the town fair instead of running content and ads on Instagram and Facebook. Guys, it's 2020. And don't give me this, not in my town, not in my industry. I'm watching. Your town, your industry.
23:21And so, that's where we're at. The biggest opportunity in the history of humankind to do what you want to do and yet you will continue to find reasons not to. And I think that comes in under the categories of self-esteem and self-awareness and I think we need to make those words important in our society. You can work hard all you want. If you're insecure, you're gonna be vulnerable because the second there's pushback and there's always pushback in the journey. You won't go there. So that's my framework. Those are the things I think about. I spend a lot of time thinking about that. And then I have a company that helps Fortune 500 companies navigate that world.
24:06And I see it every day. Just going back to the planters thing because I know it's on the radar today. There was a real debate if we could get America to know that Mr. Peanut was dead so that we could run the Super Bowl spot that we're running during the Super Bowl. And if we couldn't, the spot won't make any sense. I and VaynerMedia knew that the internet is real. We knew that if you went on Twitter, like we did yesterday, The Daily Show will pick it up at night and it will be on all the recap emails this morning and in the papers and the AP and the USA Today. The internet is real life, this is fake life.
24:43I just, and really, I'm really going, I know where the giggles come from and by the way, an enormous amount of people hate that thought, right? Like, I live in life, I know how we are doing such a great job currently demonizing technology. We hate that the kid, you know, my favorite is my friends who are parents who like, you know, because they know where I sit on tech, and they're like, Gary, you know, I'll be hanging out with them, and they'll be like, Gary, this tech is terrible, and the kids are on it too much, but the second the kid comes over and bothers our conversation over a glass of wine, they throw the iPad at that kid like it's the cure to every disease.
25:23The hypocrisy that we have around technology is fascinating. We as humans are incredible at romancing the past and demonizing the current. And so these are the trends I watch. But I will say this, if you are a vibrant, active, ambitious human being, which there is zero reason for you to be at this conference if you're not, zero. and you do not, for yourself or your company, produce in the ballpark of seven to 25 different pieces of content across three to nine different platforms a day, you are making a fundamental mistake. And I'm gonna say it again, because when you're talking about 25 pieces of content a day, in a world where 98 % of this room is not making 25 pieces of content a year, we have a very big disconnect between where I sit on this and where you sit on this.
26:28I am giving this talk for one reason because DRock is filming it and I'm gonna air it in a decade on whatever the current platform is when it has been completely accepted that everything I just said was 100 % right. I have zero interest of you actually taking the advice I just shared. I don't know you, I've got my own problems. I prefer it, I deeply, I have to go, I'm speaking at Harvard tomorrow so I have to go, I have a couple more meetings here and I gotta go Dallas to Boston, I land at 1.40 in the morning and on those kind of flights, I like reading the emails of you saying, hey, I saw you in Mobile in 2020, it's now imaginary 2023, I finally listened, I was passionate about X, Y, and Z, I did do an Instagram account or a podcast or a YouTube show and now three years later, this happened.
27:26I love that. That is the big win for me in this room. But you won't. You won't. And I know that because I've lived this life now for a while. You know, what is more likely is you're going to email me in six years and say, I wish I did because this happened. Because I was the leading lawyer in town and this other person who's not even, you know, the emails are funny, right? Gary, I mean, they come in all shapes and forms. Gary, I wish I listened to you. And you start reading it, because I read, because I want the qualitative feedback to learn, right? Heard you four years ago at the Atlanta Business Summit.
28:02You said the thing. I didn't believe you. I thought you were loud and obnoxious. I'm not cursing today, because Nagy asked me, but you cursed. It turned me off. I'm a Jersey boy. You know, meanwhile, this upstart kid, he listened to you, and then my favorite line, no matter what it is, lawyer, doctor, real estate, he's not even good at being a lawyer, but he's killing it on Facebook and he's hurting my business, what do I do now? And I smile. I smile the same way that I saw some of the kids on the field yesterday that didn't go with VaynerSports, that we know we were in the final two with them and they went in a different direction.
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28:41I see them, I root for them, I'm a kind person, my mom did a good job, but I'd be lying to you if I didn't say when I look at their faces, I smile knowing they made the wrong decision. Because I love merit. I love sports. You either make the right move or you don't. I've already won by articulating my thoughts here today. Either you're going to actually use this talk as the final piece to actually get out there and finally do this because you cannot be in this room and not know what I'm saying is actually right. Or you're not and then you lose and then I get to see you because they're both good.
29:14I did it or I didn't do it. I both enjoy because I actually love the merit of the game. I mean that. So, I hope you do it. I don't need you to do it. As a matter of fact, I'll get really technical on you. A lot of my smartest friends always ask me why I do this because if these people start making content and start running ads, it's going to be harder for you to build what you're building, Gary. And they're right.
29:45the feed of Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, it's just one feed. It's just supply and demand. If all of you start posting, that's just more content, less attention, less opportunity for me to build what I'm building. That's where it's going. So I hope I've articulated the punchline. I don't think I'm supposed to be doing Q &A now, but to be very frank, I don't, I gave Maggie the no cursing, I'm taking the Q &A, so I'm gonna take a couple of your questions right now.
30:24Because to be frank, I think I've articulated my point. And it is the point. We have, if you do any, you know I was a terrible student but there was one class I was decent at, it was called history. And I finally figured out why. I like history because I know that things repeat themselves and humans are consistent. And I like context. If you listen to my talk right now and immediately ran home and read a book or articles about the transition of America from the radio to the television, everything I just said would make sense to you. My friends, we have transitioned from the newspaper and television to the internet.
30:57It's happened. It's not going back. I'm sorry. It's not my fault. It has happened. It's never going back. This is why the mainstream media will always be wrong about their predictions, because they look at the wrong data. They will always be wrong. Watch it again. They'll always be wrong. It's why big companies, why my company's exploding, because they worked with other agencies from like the Mad Men era. They're always wrong. It's based on subjectivity, politics, ego. We're here. I want you to take advantage of it, because if you don't, somebody else will. There's 330 million of us out here in this country, in 7.7 billion.
31:40Yes, sir. Yeah, so Gary, a person that runs a company. What's your name? My name is Brent. Brent? Nice to meet you.
31:46Gary Vaynerchuk:A person runs a company, and of course they have their own social media platforms and accounts. The company. They're personal. Yeah, for their business, how do you divide up the kind of content, do you cross pollinate there? Yes. What would you recommend to a person? Brent, I think you can do both, right? Like I do, I'm Gary Vee, but my family wine business, Wine Library has an account. Empathy Wines, my direct to consumer wine brand has an account. VaynerMedia has an account. We cross pollinate. Obviously, if you're a big personality, and big comes in a lot of senses. If you're, let me phrase, I'm not gonna use big.
32:19If you're a personality that brings value in whatever shape or form, you're gonna see more following people like to follow people over businesses. But it's all about value exchange. But you'll appreciate this, but there is no right or wrong. really there's not. I would say the only thing that you can do wrong is not being yourself. I see a lot of people scared to actually be themselves because they're scared who's watching. And like I hate looking at all your LinkedIn accounts. You've got like a suit and tie, looking all professional. Like you think something bad's gonna happen if you're normal.
32:49I look like a mess up here. I'm wearing a tiara whack sweatshirt. Like the results always win. and I think a lot of people hold back their natural self, the market doesn't care in the end. Somebody may judge you, but the market doesn't care.
33:10Yes, sir. What's your name? Tucker. Tucker. So I started a podcast called Behind the Grind Show on Instagram, LinkedIn, everywhere you listen to podcasts. Thanks for your commercial. Next. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. We started in October. Okay. We interview entrepreneurs and high-performing individuals. And we've had a decent amount of growth in this short period of time. That's awesome. And all because of you. All because of you. You executed. Yes, sir. We just recently got reached out by a couple people that are willing to become sponsors or have their bosses that are entrepreneurs on. So my first question is, when is the right time to start monetizing?
33:57And then second, we just got reached out to potentially do a live audience podcast. Yep. Because people in Pensacola, Florida, Studer Community Institute, they reached out to us about potentially brainstorming on that idea. So would that be a big direction for the podcast? Everything you said is yes and no, and it's important for you at this young of an age to understand that. No matter my level of successes or different people's levels of experience, the punchline is it may be yes or no. The key is to not do something that you're so locked in that once you taste it and you realize it's no, that you can't get out.
34:35The wrong thing to do with whoever you just talked to in Pensacola is to sign a two-year deal to do it live there, and after the second one, you're like, this sucks, I don't want to do this. So you keep flexibility. the audience won't be mad at you for monetizing, they'll be mad at you for selling out. And that's a very big difference. But I think, but it's so exciting, right? Because I go through this spiel, how long have you been doing it? Since October of last week. You mean four minutes? If I'm correct with October and you factor in Thanksgiving and Christmas, you're talking about nine seconds.
35:05Right. It's important for you to see, now for them to get that level of reach out, they just might be good. Like there is a variable in everything I've just said. you may love talking about basketball, you might just be boring. So you've gotta be self-aware about it, but my big thing is, you may be boring, but it makes you so happy. Like my big thing is, people don't like their jobs, or lives, and then they go and consume things to escape, and I'm trying to get them to create to get happy. You may never become Stephen A. Smith, but if you start a podcast about the Pelicans, even if it gets a little juice, maybe some free tickets to a game, now you're pumped, you like the Pelicans.
35:51It's a lot better than watching an entire Aaron Hernandez Netflix documentary. Yeah, I had to go there. I hate those guys so damn much. I saw Bill Belichick on the sidelines yesterday, I wanted to punch him in his face. Jets fans, you know. Cool. I'm a broker-runner of a small real estate company in Birmingham. We do a flat B-lock. We're essentially in our local market, but I'm seeing nationally that it's growing quickly. A lot of people aren't really accepting of it. However, I have this vision in my mind. Real quick. A lot of people aren't accepting of it. Let's talk real quick. Who's not accepting of it?
36:34Well, I'm not necessarily worried about it. It's our industry professional, so I'm worried about the consumers. Correct. Thank you. The people that aren't accepting of it are the ones whose commissions and margins are getting affected. That has nothing to do with the end consumer. I haven't had a single competitor ever love me.
36:53I guess my question is, as we try to scale it, my disconnect is finding the next connection to find someone who can show us how to scale that in a way that we can maintain culture, but also keep the consumer mindset first. Well, first of all, I'm pumped that you're thinking about that. I mean, you're aware of what I've done with Claude and Chief Heart Officer, do you know what I'm saying there? Yeah, I mean, look, I think you're, like, even hearing you deliver that sentence, I think for some of the veteran business people in this room, like, we weren't talking about culture 20 years ago. Like, it was just get the results done.
37:29So, to scale, I do believe you need culture. You know, at 1 ,000 people, we have offices in Singapore and London and Chattanooga, Tennessee. You've gotta really have culture. I think the fact that you're even thinking about it already means you have a shot at it. It means you're gonna throw money at it and you're gonna have an HR department that cares about the employees, not as a disguise for the finance team to fire people. It's just intent. Like just even hearing how much you know, talking, seeing your vibes on the crew, this is just intent. The reason I always win is because I have intent.
38:05my employees first, my customers second, me third. That's a very easy way to win in business. I think we all know that's not how most people do it. And if you're sitting here right now and saying, me, I'm gonna start this business to buy a boat. Two, customers, because they're the people that are gonna give me money. Three, employee, you're gonna build a very small business.
38:31Yes, sir. Yep. Stand up, bro. So I'm kind of freaked out. Don't freak out. My name is Ahmed, I'm 19 years old. I'm not really like a huge business guy. No worries. I'm kind of a kid. But I'm kind of, my question was, I know you say to people who don't know what their passions are, you can try a lot of stuff. Yes. My thing is, where do you start with that? Okay, let's play. You're 19, which I'm so thrilled you're asking this question because it's super important. This thought that you need to have your life figured out at this age is laughable. This thought that we've created in society that 18 or 22 you need to know and you've got, it's like we've literally built society backwards.
39:19Like when you first get out of the school machine which maps zero to real life, you're supposed to go play real life to have a chance to figure out what you do. So where do you start? You start with what are you consuming and paying attention to when you have leisure time? Do you play video games? Do you listen to music? Do you like to go out and eat weird food? What do you like? That's where you start. So what do you like, Ahmed? What are you about? I kind of like comic books. Good, let's start with comic books. Do you want to create comic books? Do you want to sell comic books? Do you want to buy comic books and flip them?
39:57Do you want to work at Comic Con? All of those things would be a good place for you to start. cold email and DM 850 different people that are players in the comic book world and one of them might reply to you and that starts your career. Like you could literally work for Funco tomorrow. You could literally work for Marvel tomorrow. You could. You just have to write 137 compelling emails and DMs and LinkedIn things. What's up brother? I thought you could literally do that. Yeah, bro, you can literally do that. Who's 43 and older? We couldn't do that, Ahmed. That's not how it worked when we were coming up the game.
40:37You didn't just like say, like, you know, actually ironically once in a while I come across an OG who's like actually I did do that. I wrote 800 letters. It took two months for me to get a response instead of two hours. But yeah, man, I mean like, you know, in the comic world there's the movie aspect, there's the actual skill of it. If you like the drawing of it, you could. Look, let me tell you one thing about winners. A lot of winners didn't get there by accident. So when you write a winner in email, your favorite illustrator at DC Comics, hey Sarah, I will bring you coffee, get your laundry, grind and bleed just to intern or work at minimum wage just to see how you do it, one out of every hundred of those people, that's how I hire, I hired DRock because he emailed me three times.
41:30And now he's DRock and people like call their video people DRock.
41:38That's his story. My man. So, my name is Christian. About a year and a half ago, I started a quarterback development company in the Northeast area. Love it. You know, listening to a bunch of your stuff, I've always been kind of in the world of wanting to create content for things, but my surrounding people just wasn't about that. So I wanted to say thank you first off for kind of being that person to kind of motivate me to go. So about a year and a half ago, we started doing a podcast, live podcast on Facebook, kind of started taking off. We started getting messages. The company started growing.
42:14About a week ago, we got a contract for the AYF, which is American League Football in the Northeast, to do all of their camps and clinics. So it's been super awesome. Also, my name came up for some high school coaching jobs. So it's been like the world has been kind of going crazy. I'm super happy right now. No, that can't be. It's true. So my question is, and it's just crazy that a year and a half ago, I dreamt about this and now this is actually coming out of my mouth. But my goal is to get into the NFL as a coach one day. And right now, I see myself in a point of struggling between maintaining the company and then having to go over into putting 100 % of my effort into the coaching.
42:59Maybe don't try to make the company as big as you know you can because you can't allocate 110 % of the energy to it. You're not looking at the company from the perspective of as an alpha, as a winner, as an ambitious young dude. You're like, I'm building this. You don't have to build it. So many people in this room, how many people here own their own business, great. This is gonna really hit for a lot of you. There's a lot of people that you can talk to afterwards. If you guys see this man afterwards, tell them that built companies and they built it, let's say, from zero to a million a year or half a million.
43:33But take, and they loved it. Life was awesome. But from a million to a million five, that like screwed it up. Like there's a Mendoza line where like, people don't understand this. This is why I push happiness so much. I'm thrilled that your business now does three million instead of 1.6 million, but you used to love your life at 1.6 and you hate it now because you're managing or you're doing this or that or you're stressing, I think you can control the size of your business. You can also bring someone in. You can bring in a partner. You can bring in a big-time employee that gets bonused on net profits.
44:05There's a lot of hacks for you to go at this. You also can be very patient. Good. So then you shouldn't be stressed. If you say, how old are you? Great. If you say, I'm gonna be in the NFL when I'm 42, guess what? It gets a lot less stressful when you're thinking in 14 year terms. It gets a lot less stressful when you're reading, when you're not reading other headlines, when you hear some 26 year old got the look to be the number two on the offense at the Bengals. All of a sudden you're frustrated, don't worry about anybody else. Just like those friends around you that were like, nah, nah, nah, that won't work.
44:42Don't worry about the 26 year old whiz kid who's on Buffalo right now. That has nothing to do with you. Take it from 44, 42's plenty young to get your first NFL coaching job. You understand? Our relationship with time is something we really have to start talking about in a society. It just, it will take a ton of anxiety out of the system. Bro, in 18 months, you've accomplished more than a lot of people have accomplished in their life.
45:08Appreciate it. Got you, bro. Yes, ladies. Lady, either, which, whoever. What's your name? Rosie. I am a financial advisor. Okay. And I'm new in the business. I've been in it for three years. Okay. But I'm the only female in the office. I have no offense to the white haired men in the room, but I have an office full of that. So they don't understand. So we need to be doing this. We need to be doing that. And the other thing that we face is because it's the financial industry, it's very heavily regulated with what you can say, they can't say. I'm very aware but people use regulation as an excuse to not do.
45:49Well that's what I'm saying, so how do you combat? You execute. How do I combat the? By not talking to those old dudes.
45:59Very simple, don't look for permission, focus on execution.
46:07There's nothing more, my whole life I was told what I was doing was wrong. It was crazy to launch an internet site for a liquor store in 1996. People thought the internet was a fad. Forget about is TikTok a fad. Some of the OGs in here know. We debated if the whole thing was a fad. Right, and then I did email instead of catalogs and that was not smart. What's email? And then I bought Google AdWords and I was spending more money on Google AdWords than I was spending on direct mail and newspaper ads and that was stupid. and then I sat down and started filming a wine show on YouTube a month after YouTube came out and people thought I lost my mind let alone that it was stupid and then I took all the money I had in my life that I saved my whole life and invested in Facebook and Twitter five years before they became public companies and all my financial advisors and family and everybody else thought that was stupid.
47:00I'm only excited when people tell me it is stupid. That's when I know I'm about to do something smart. Yes, sir, in the back with the wild shirt. Ethan? Yes, sir, we launched yesterday on work and tackling the team of investors, you guys. You said you launched yesterday? Yes, sir. First day? Yeah. Epic, go ahead. We are going to be a platform that networks people that are afraid to complete their dreams or pursue their dreams or account. I started watching you last year and I was the same CEO. I want to build a platform that people can achieve their dreams because I've always known that I could and I lost it.
47:50Essentially why I'm here is I want to schedule a meeting with you.
48:01It's not about what you can bring to us. It's about what we can bring to you and your community. Okay. And what we can do for people that want to make their dreams and pursue their dreams. We live in the air and anymore people don't want to make their dreams. It's people doubt themselves right now. People know they can't do their lessons. Agreed. So in a world where I've got a lot of things in front of me and as you can imagine this pitch, though much more fun in real life, happens 8 ,000 times a day, here's what you need to do. You need to email me. I'll read it tonight because I have long flights.
48:37Gary at VaynerMedia. You need to put in the title, I'm the dude with the weird shirt that launched today. Because then I'll see it, right? I'm the dude with the weird shirt that launched today. And you need to articulate what you mean on the value exchange. And then if it's there, I'll fly it in New York. Good. Yes, sir.
48:59Will? Bill? I own an MMA apparel company. Awesome. So, my idea for advertising, you know, because you said it's skill or finance, and I'm just kind of wondering if this is like a good idea. I'm listening. I hand out pieces of my apparel, and you have to have an Instagram account, pretty much. And so I'll hand out a piece of my apparel, a shirt or something, and I'll say, listen, put the shirt on, do something badass in it, tag me. Take a picture, tag me. Yes. That's kind of how I'm getting my ads out. I love that. Yeah? Yes, that is a very good idea. And I give you a shirt and you can do it. Yes.
49:38I can do that.
49:44You can definitely give me a shirt.
49:50Is it a medium? Yeah, it's a large. I won't wear it. Somebody else else? Get me a medium and I'll wear it. I'll get you a medium. Where are I gonna send it? Where should he send it? How should he do with DRock? You know what, DRock's right in front of you. I get 80 ,000, he gets 8 ,000. It's all screwed up. DRock will give it to you right now, the info. Like, DRock, send it to Attention Lou, and then I'll wear it. Can I get a picture? Yeah, you can get a picture.
50:23Yes, please. I'm gonna press the tab button.
50:32Real pressure, man. Yeah, dude. This guy's fucking huge.
50:40How are you? Hey, Gary V. Yes. My name's Colton. Colton. My brother, Cody. Cody. And we come from a father-son company. Our dad started a B2B medical distributor like 20 years ago. Okay. So now we're kind of taking that over. Okay. We still do a lot of direct mail. Yeah. Couple thousand pieces a month. We started LinkedIn this year. Yep, what are you seeing? What's happening on LinkedIn? Good, so we've got about 4 ,000 followers. We get about 5 ,000 views on our videos. How often are you posting? Once a week. Once a week. So we need to do nine a day. My question is about targeting. Yep. We're all B2B.
51:18I'm very aware. As you know, you can run LinkedIn ads against people's job descriptions. Have you done that yet? That was my question.
51:26Gary Vaynerchuk:Is that something we can understand ourselves? Yeah, I got a great way for you to learn this. I'll give you guys, if you guys want to learn this as well, I'll give you the website. It's G-O-O-G-L-E.com. But what's really pumped it, why I'm really excited about this is you guys clearly are capable, can literally, this is crazy, you can literally go to Google and say, how do I target specific professionals on LinkedIn ads? and have unlimited ways to figure out how to do it. It's not the tactics, it's the knowledge of. The knowledge of knowing that you can target people on LinkedIn. LinkedIn makes direct mail look like child's play when you understand it.
52:10Then when you really understand it and you realize that you have to do different content for different doctors in different sectors, in geographic, gender, race, mindset, it gets real gnarly. You understand? And you can target specific companies too, right? Yeah, you can, and the way you do that is you target a specific company, all the employees, and the ad, the piece of content starts, does your head buyer know, does your accountant know, like, you see where I'm going? So what you're trying to do is get the employees to forward it to the CFO or the CIO or the head medical device buyer, I don't know what that terminology would be.
52:45You see where I'm going? You can literally write the words to say, does your, if you're selling fast financial services, You can literally write along with the video or the PDF or whatever you want. You gotta try different stuff. Does your CFO know that she can because you even know that the CFO in that company is a woman? Like you can do such smart stuff. People don't. All of this is just like health and wellness. Would you like to be healthier and better shape? Let me help you. Eat well and exercise. Every day. Meanwhile, people are like, ass implants, steroids, like apple cider, celery, like people are looking for the hack because people don't want to put in the work.
53:35Yes, sir.
53:38Michael. Get out. That's awesome. I go to Scotch Plains. By the way, that's my favorite other thing, side hustle life. You could be 20K a year garage selling on the weekend selling on eBay. If you need some side cash, garage sales. Anyway. I'd say I watch all your content but you always tell us not to, you know, go out and do so. That's what I try to do. Mine is kind of a two part question like this. Since I'm so young, I'm 25, I kind of have the pressure of get a job, get out there, you know, all, you know, you see Instagram, everyone's doing everything. And when you say go out with a taste. and for me that hit me a little bit later for me to go out and taste I did I'm in sports sports management what I majored in then I went back home to do real estate with my father tried to do that and really felt like that wasn't for me and my passion wasn't for you happy good so I'm trying to go back into sports good still trying to find my way there while I don't have responsibility and all that exactly so my thing is it's like there's different avenues that that I've always been working at, that I've thought active, military, sportsmen, like they're all over the place.
54:46So my question is, my two part question is, someone, I've always felt like someone had to allow the tapes, you know what I mean? Yes. Oh, I wanna go out and do this, but someone has to hire me to do that. Someone has to read my resume to do that and getting past that barrier of trying to, oh, I wanna try this, but I have to get through somebody to do that is the first question. The answer to that is yes and no. First of all, back to some of the things I've already alluded to here. Back to Ahmed, who's the next student I saw. Notice when I said to him that he has to reach out to 137 people. People come at me and they're like, Gary, I wanted to be a sports agent and I tried really hard.
55:26I'm like, cool. Barry, how did you go? He's like, well, I submitted to three places. I'm like, three? Like, yes, there are gatekeepers for certain jobs potentially for you to taste. there's also 7 ,000 of them. So A, have you asked all 7 ,000? That's A. B, in the world of content creation and zero startup costs, one could potentially, if they can afford to, one of the reasons, it's funny that we're segwaying off the garage sale thing, one of the things I tell a lot of people is get a job at 7-Eleven or do garage sale and just to maintain your lowest possible cost of living so you can start the thing that makes you happy.
56:06and to your point of 25, seven years from now, you'll be 32 years old. Do you know how young 32 years old is? Ugh. Anyway. The second part to that is I have to get up on the entrepreneurship thing and the thing that for self-awareness you always preach and I'm always trying to look inward in self-awareness is a while ago and I still saved it on Instagram that I always go peek at is to find out what kind of person I am. You always say for a hungry dog someone that's been fed doesn't know how to go home. Correct. And that really stuck with me. And that time, you know, I'm fortunate enough to have Yeah, that's right.
56:46So I don't know if I was committed. You were. Of course you were. Of course. Both. Both. Long before I came along or anybody else, the nature-nurture thing has been established. So I don't know you well enough, but there's a deep, when I was five, it was not necessarily that my parents, we were very poor immigrants, but I still thought it was more fun to go shovel people's driveways when it snowed than build a snowman because I wanted a dollar. That was my chemicals. Then I was conditioned because when I was 11 and said, Mom, everyone's getting Nintendo, she said, great, go buy it. I was like, all right, gotta go to work.
57:26You know, like, so for you potentially, it's the complete opposite, which is amazing. Maybe you didn't have those chemicals and then on top of it, You had the great fortune and there's nothing wrong with that. None of us picked our paths where you were fed. So, yeah, it's probably more unlikely that you want to go and grind it at zero and build something for yourself and deal with all the fear and anxiety and loneliness and grind and dirt and blood that comes along with being an entrepreneur. Not the popping bottles and flying in private jet entrepreneurs that you see on Instagram that are completely full of shit.
58:01Sorry, Jim.
58:06You got it, brother. You've been a huge inspiration for us. We created a content creation, videography, photography company, social media. It's actually our two-year anniversary, so it's great to see you. First, my question is, you talk about posting a ton of content. Yes. Yes. And a lot of times, we don't know what to post. And one thing we've seen, and I want to know if it's a small sample size or a tiny sample size, is a lot of times when we post personal content, personality content, whether it's like Freestyle Friday or XYZ, it gets a lot more attention, comments, shares. Humans like humans.
58:45Yeah, and is that something that a lot of us should be focusing on too as we build that brand? If you like it. A lot of people are very shy and introverted and don't like the attention from other humans. I don't think they should be making videos. Yeah. Second part of the question was, can we take a selfie with you? You can. Real quick, because I want to give an answer that will help a lot of people. Did you ever see that interview I had where I came up with the first time of documenting, don't create? I really think people need to think about that. Just make. People overthink. They think they have, even the way you structured it, you're like freestyle, you're making everything like shows or structuring it.
59:21Stop thinking. Start making. Cool, get up here. Let me get on this side. Yes ma 'am. Hi. I'm a Jersey girl. Love. I was at Rutgers and worked in football there. Love, you grew up in Jersey? Yeah. Where? South Jersey, Dickerville. Yeah, I know it. And I cheered for the Jets. Amazing.
59:45I'm listening. I can multitask, entrepreneur over here.
1:00:01I got so many people here, I was just saying hi to everyone and just putting myself out there. Good for you. But I want to know about two things actually. YouTube versus TikTok, would you just... Both. Got it, thought that was gonna be the answer. And two... But know this, TikTok is a crazy place right now. In a great way. In a great way. I have given the same advice my whole life. I am very basic. How many people here follow me on Instagram? Thank you. So you guys know, I love putting up videos 10 years ago, a little chubbier, younger version of me saying the same stuff I'm saying right now. So I'm saying that for the people in the room that don't know me.
1:00:46What I'm about to say matters a lot. In the history of my career, the organic reach thing, that nobody knows who I am, I want to talk about Alabama football, nobody knows who I am, I have zero followers. MySpace, Twitter, Facebook, Social Cam, Vine, Snapchat, Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, none. Not a single platform has even been remotely close to what's happening on TikTok when you post your third post and 800 ,000 people watch it. Now it's already, I don't know if you noticed this DRock, it's already declining, because here comes the content, because there was so much attention compared to content, but you would destroy it on TikTok.
1:01:29Thank you. Yeah. If I were you, I would make three TikToks a day. Okay. The way I think you get to the question they had, which is like, what do we make? Right. I think you look at what's on the explore, like the trending page, and the biggest mistake people make is, they hear this, they go home, they're like, screw it, I'm gonna do it. I'm motivated. Gary's so motivating. I'm gonna do it. And they're like, they download TikTok, and then they're like, now what? Two things. One, back to that crazy website Google, it's crazy. It's an epic one. You know, what works on TikTok, enter, read for three hours, but way more importantly, consume TikTok for five hours and then make a decision.
1:02:10Don't call your 11-year-old niece and be like, what's this TikTok thing about? She's gonna tell you from an 11-year-old's perspective, you're here for business for building a breakout. You're coming from a different angle. Consume it. That will help you know what to make. What's that? Do you have a TikTok account yet? No, I don't.
1:02:37Love it. Thank you, man. You're welcome.
1:02:43Gary Vaynerchuk:I love attention. It's really hard for me to talk to you because I admire you so much, right? Like, I've done this a couple of times. Thank you. Like, I'm freaking out. And I'm obsessed with adding value, right? So, like, guy with a shirt, I want to help you, man. I'm obsessed with connection also.
1:03:00Gary Vaynerchuk:As, you know, as I came into your content, and how you're, like, the Pied Piper for you don't have to be a jerk to win, and empathy, and, like, the alpha guy that preaches, you know, value and kindness, and it's what I've been doing all my life, so I dove in two years ago. I'm like the butt of your old joke and like the hero story of the new thing, right? Like coddled by parents. I had to completely unlearn that. Like my man over there, you gotta unlearn it. You gotta get vulnerable, get dirty. You gotta eat, you know, like I don't wanna cuss because I know that you're - Nagy will beat us up, yeah, he's tough.
1:03:35Gary Vaynerchuk:And then restart again and iterate, right? And real quick, I apologize. Let's not demonize, like none of us picked our spots. Like I didn't pick like, hey, I'm gonna be born in Russia and then come to America. Like, let's definitely not over demonize people that had great fortune of being in a situation. They just have to decide what they want in their lives. Like, you know, we really need to deploy self-awareness. Not everybody's supposed to go on and be an alpha number one and build something big. Like, there's a lot of ways to skin it, but nonetheless, I just wanted to add that because I didn't want that theme to get too far away.
1:04:06Keep going. Cool.
1:04:07Gary Vaynerchuk:That being said, man, the big connection point for me, I'm like yelling, so, because I'm Hispanic and I yell and you're close, whatever. The main connection point for you was when I realized that content is like networking on steroids. Correct. Everything you do person to person. Correct. And I put on content and put it out. Yes. And I'm learning so much from you and then I'm like reading the Steve Jobs book and I'm like, bro, I'm just learning from you like it was an audio book every day, all the time. That's the plan. For free. And then you release a library that's searchable. Yes. Right? So like I just want to, man, I want you to like talk about that searchable library.
1:04:42Gary Vaynerchuk:Okay. It's so valuable for people that can see that. and how you put that together. There's two people, the people that can't make content, the people that make a ton of content, they don't know what to do with it. So the categorizer would be amazing. Thank you. I don't want to give you a bean. Please, I do. This is from the charger that we gave you last night, bro. I love it, thank you, man. Thank you, I love you, bro. So the search engine, we transcribed all my words into metadata from every single video I've ever put out in the history of my life and then put it into a database and made it searchable.
1:05:12So we have a search engine on our website. I'm still not even promoting it. I still, you know what's so fun about playing the long game? Like, it's, you know, you're hardcore enough in my content that you know it exists, because I promoted it for like one day. I don't even really know where it is. I think it's on my website. Like, I believe it's gonna be the biggest thing I leave, because the earlier thing I talked about, which was like the voice device. Yeah, of course, I heard. You know, the, like, I'm so excited that I'm gonna have an Alexa skill in 10 years that's gonna allow you to be walking through the kitchen or in the office and say, Alexa, I need to speak to Gary.
1:05:48They'll be like, Gary, what should I do when a manager is doing this? And I'll actually reply because the data has been structured. That's gonna be rad. So, that's why I did it. That's what I'm anticipating. That's what we're building and I think a lot of people are gonna do that with audio information. I think it's, we love speed. There's a lot of things you're doing now that you said you would never do because you like speed. Many of you here 10 years ago said you would never text. You now text. Many of you five years ago said that you would never use emojis, this is stupid, and now you send poop emojis.
1:06:25Right? The reason you do that is because of speed. The emoji is literally this is quicker than okay. All of you are gonna use voice devices in your home and office because it's gonna be faster. That's all. We choose convenience over everything. We don't care about privacy. Everybody loves talking about privacy. You guys love talking about privacy. What about privacy? What about it? You put your credit card all over the internet all day long. The IRS was completely hacked. Every single social security number in this room has been compromised. What's happened? The Russians kidnapped you? We don't care about privacy because it's fake.
1:07:08We love convenience. yes sir you look great pretty sharp bro like that tie clip I remember
1:07:28everybody if you enjoyed this podcast please go back and look at the prior episodes they're loaded I appreciate your attention and thanks for being part of this journey see you later
From the publisher
In this episode of the GaryVee Audio Experience, I talk about the single biggest mistake I see ambitious people making today: failing to produce enough content where attention lives. I explain why, in this "greatest era ever for opportunity", you are "fundamentally irrelevant" if you're not on 7-10 apps. I break down why the cost of distribution is now free, why branding is vastly underpriced compared to sales, and why most people aren't posting (it has nothing to do with technology). I also discuss the coming audio revolution, and why you must act now to take advantage of the visual platforms.
You’ll learn about:
- Why Content Production is the Quickest Path to Your Goals
- The Difference Between Branding and Selling
- How to Overcome Your Insecurity About Posting
- Why Distribution is Free
- The Massive Organic Opportunity on TikTok
- How to Start Building Your Passion into a Career
