How to Build a Career You Actually Love | Tea with GaryVee Ep #80

0:00Every single creative industry, VaynerMedia, Hollywood, Madison Avenue is gonna be massively affected by AI I think I'm gonna make feature films on a computer. Avicii sat in the fucking middle of Europe on his computer and changed the world. So that's what's gonna fucking happen. Sorry, Hollywood. Sorry, VaynerMedia and other ad agencies. Shit's changing. You're in trouble. Sorry. Just like the Yellow Pages salesman was in trouble. Just like the bookstores were in trouble. Just like the taxi drivers were in trouble. The whole game's about to change. The end. There we go. How are you, Jared? Doing good, how are you?

0:35I'm quite well, what's cooking? So I've been following your content, as you know, for a long time, minted the gold chinchilla. One of the chinchilla maxis out there with Justin. One of your pieces of content really resonated with me. You know, if you're going to your job Monday and aren't happy, you know, what are you doing to change that? I've been applying to a bunch of positions, gotten the response like, you know, you're overqualified. Why are you looking to make a change from a lawyer into this? How many people have you asked? I try to send out at least 50 daily on LinkedIn and Twitter messages.

1:14I've even emailed you and AJ and Tyler and Kranak and Jeremy. And what are you looking to do in my company's world, for example? How AI could be really useful in the vFriends and storytelling. and I have kind of made it a little mini passion project of writing, kind of going back to the OG days, writing the little workplace warrior stories about how the different VFriends could represent actual jobs and entrepreneurs, whether that be doctors, whatever, lawyers, for example. Let me give you some insight. So for VFriends, because so much work has been put on the canon era and the origin stories, it's a timing thing.

2:01We're in a place right now where the creative team is so locked in to what we're doing and it's mapping the next 36 months that the value doesn't come in new ideas. But on the AI part, if you're actually learning how to use AI and sent examples of how you created things using AI with the creative, that might give you a leg up. I think that's what I can speak for us. And I would say AI is a great place for you to go all in on because the next 24 months, everyone's going to be looking for AI people, AI knowledge, AI stuff. So what I would say to you is less ideas and more execution. I would get very deeply good at AI storytelling and then sending companies like us and others things you made so people can see it and then bang.

2:56yeah that's actually what I've been doing I've been emailing the team stories that I've used AI as prompts that's not going to be enough I would say again because that's grounded in ideas notice what I said earlier the ideas part is not the interesting part only because we're stuck in this spot right now where we've spent two years and the last six months especially setting up the next five years of Canon so it's just a timing thing it doesn't for many people that would be valuable what we would be what we would be excited about would be creative output. Like a three-minute video taking what, you know this, if you made a three-minute video taking what was in the last comic book or the next comic book and creating content, that gets on my radar.

3:43I'd be remiss, real quick, before I left, I'd be remiss if I didn't ask for that big chinchilla plush. You know, I'm always in there asking. I'd be remiss if I didn't bring it up. I've promised the crew that the chinchilla that's here stays, but I can confirm a little bit of alpha here. There has been an overwhelming response to that chinchilla, and there is significant momentum on us producing it and making it available, so more to come on that. Awesome. Thanks, Gary. Take care, brother. Take care. Alright, Pablo, what do you got? Mark asks, I'm currently unemployed, took a chance on making more money in the state of Minnesota.

4:23I left my cook job and also my family back in Texas for a chance to give them a better life. I've been here a week already and I feel homesick. Did I make a mistake? And better yet, how have you handled transition periods in your life? It sounds like he's just starting. I've handled transition periods by not judging transition periods in the first week. I judge transition periods in multiple years, not in multiple days. So I would say that I handle it by deploying patients. and I don't think he's made a mistake. I think he's jumping too quick, you know? All right, back to whatnot. Alex asks, with the film industry struggling in the USA, you are starting a TV production company.

5:08What are your predictions business-wise about Hollywood, the film industry, and AI? Asking as a member of the film industry who's trying to move into producing after 12 plus years working on a set as a grip. Every single creative industry, VaynerMedia, Hollywood, Madison Avenue, is gonna be massively affected by AI because you can make incredible visuals for far less money without ever leaving the comforts of your home. The whole game's about to change. The end. Like, I think I'm gonna make feature films on a computer. And by the way, that's how music's made now, digitally, in a way that a lot of people don't feel great about.

5:49But nobody in Hollywood cared about the music people when they were disrupted by Napster and by being able to, Avicii sat in the fucking middle of Europe on his computer and changed the world. So that's what's gonna fucking happen. Sorry, Hollywood. Sorry, VaynerMedia and other ad agencies. Shit's changing. And so if you're not fucking adjusting, I'm spending an enormous amount of mind time and strategy on what we're gonna do about it. And what we're gonna do about it is we're gonna become great at it. And so what you're gonna, the people that are creative and strategic are gonna get most of the money, not the people that are lugging shit around.

6:27The person that's holding lighting, if your job is to hold a light, if you're a light man or woman, right? There's people that do that. You're in charge of the lighting. You're in trouble. Sorry. Just like the Yellow Pages salesman was in trouble. Just like the bookstores were in trouble. Just like the taxi drivers were in trouble. Just like the people that literally, Pablo, do you understand on this little island that you're sitting on right now, 110 years ago, a lot of people's job was to clean up horse shit. That was their job. We all got around on horses and horses shit. Pablo, do you know that horses shit?

7:02And the shit was on the street. And do you know that people got paid to clean up the shit? When we went to cars, what the fuck do you think happened? Do you understand when we went to the telephone instead of everything being a letter, that people that were part of the letter business, ink, paper, the delivery of letters, when we went to telephone, shit changed. We didn't cry for the letter people, we just marveled at having letters. Like, yes, shit's gonna change. So that's it, man. If you're in fucking Hollywood or Madison Avenue, start adjusting. The game's changing. Mike B is live on video.

7:39Mike B is live on video on whatnot. If you wanna see him, court fix the chat, keep an eye on that for me if you don't mind, or you can give me the mic on that if you want. Mike B, how are you? Where are you from? And what can I help you with? Good. I'm in Vancouver, Washington. And my life kind of got flipped upside down a few months ago, going through a separation right now, three kids. And I currently work full time job at an ad agency in New York City remote. But I'm also building out my own agency. I've been doing it for the last six years. and I guess my question is right now I'm in a tough spot because I'm I'm going through custody situations but while I want more time with my kids I need my full-time job isn't enough to support financially so I do need extra which is no problem I've been working seven days a week all day for years like I have no problem putting in the work but it's it's getting to the point where it's a hard decision where do I fight for more time with my kids now and work my face off and figure it out financially or do I agree to the minimal time now and build it up and then fight for more time with them later I know it's like not not looking for legal advice no I understand Mike listen I have a lot of compassion and empathy for you this is obviously a challenging chapter in your life here's the good news first I think you can find some solace in this I really am fascinated by kids and parents and all that stuff I spent a lot of time on it in the last 20 years is first and foremost just please focus deeply deeply that your children know that you love them and you're always there for them you're you're lucky we live in a world where facetime and all this other stuff you know as you can imagine there's no quote-unquote right answer i think that the struggle between financial realities and family realities is very real and even for people that are not in a divorce and custody situation, people struggle with this.

9:37I would say focus on a couple things. One, realizing the only right answer is that those children know that their dad is there for them constantly and always in any situation and that you love the living shit out of them. That is the only right answer, right? You know, look, I think you want to, you want to, you definitely want to fight for as much time as you personally think you can go for. Meaning, I think there's potentially an in-between from the way you structured it. There's probably an in-between from the most minimum amount of time with them. But also, an in-between from like you leaving a little bit on the table from the work stuff and the kids stuff.

10:22So it's kind of finding purple instead of red or blue. Right. Instead of it being black or white, fight the gray so whatever you're feeling right now whatever the bare minimum is like 20 to 50 percent more than that based on your situation is probably quote unquote a good place to try to target and then in the time that you're not with them that you're upset that you can't be 50 50 or as much as possible over indexing on them feeling your presence and here's a big one dominating when you're actually with them right right like like being a lot yeah exactly and and honestly not beating yourself up here's what will happen there'll be a time where you're with them and works on fire and there's a problem or some other problem where you're not in your best self because you had a tough day or a tough argument with their mom or who knows right if you have a bad weekend or a bad like time with them like you didn't feel as present as you wanted to be not beating yourself up and knowing you have the next time with them to make up for it yeah I appreciate that yeah you understand?

11:23yeah I really appreciate it man that helps a lot and just appreciate everything you do you've been a big help for me and a beacon for years man just really appreciate it I'm really cheering for you and brother there's some real light and gold at the end of this tunnel I promise you as tough as this is in context there'll be a lot of good things that come out of this even though this is painful and I really believe you're gonna get to the other side in a good way brother thank you I feel it and I can see it myself. Thank you. You're welcome, brother. Take care. Pablo, next question. Hannah's asking, I'm prepping for my last round interview in person I have at this foundation.

11:58And considering I've been trying to find a job for eight months and the job market is tumultuous, I'm a bit nervous. I'd love to know how you calm your nerves and emotions before a big life event. By realizing that if you don't, it's probably not gonna go well. And so really this becomes a game of knowing you have no choice and not, again, similar to the gentleman before, Here's my number one thing right now that I'm hot on is being your number one fan versus being your number one critic. Like when she says that, it's likely her next four job interviews are not gonna go well. She has it in her.

12:34Right? Like for example, again, I'm bringing up yesterday, like for all the people that were watching basketball yesterday, when I lose, my chemicals go weird. I know that like me just like leaving the game and not doing the Astros shirt, That was not like the right thing. But I'm not gonna sit today and be like, I'm a piece of shit, even though like some of the Be Friends community is like, that was fucked up, Gary. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I had a bad moment. And everyone's allowed to. And so like she's allowed to have shitty interviews. And the more she's not upset at herself for the next shitty interview, the more likely her next interview will be good.

13:14Right? Like I need people to really understand this. How does she address this? Is when I do my most pressure, I gave an NYU commencement speech, as you know. A lot of people saw that video. I did not prep for it at all. And right before I went on, I go, man, is this the right thing not to prep for, even though I never prep? And I'm sitting there and I'm like, this could go really bad. Or this could go well. But the reason it went so well, I believe, is because if I fucking bombed and it was terrible, I'd be fine. And again, I think the thing that's fucking up so many people right now is they're not their number one fan.

13:57You gotta be your number one fan. You can't beat yourself up. Like for example, I'm looking at all these people on TikTok and Instagram right now. Right, Grego, Jacko, Samachi, Wolf Tang, HiChaseGrey. I need all of them to be on OneNot. I need them all to be on OneNot. I hate them all right now. I'm angry at everybody on all my socials that have not come over here. But they shouldn't be mad. They shouldn't be sad that I am mad at them. They need to be insular. They need to be insular. You must be insular. What's her name again? Hannah. Hannah, the way that you can deliver on big moments is by already deciding that you lost.

14:38The one place in my life, personally and professionally, emotionally, everything in my life I decide I've already lost. VFriends failed. Vayner failed. I failed. I've decided it. I have felt the feelings. The only place in my life that I have decided I haven't lost yet is when I compete in sports. You guys have seen me when things don't go well. I'm like easy. Easy. Big shit. Lost$10 million count. Non-event. Non-event. Lose a stinking pickup game last night. Four games to love. Dead. Dead. because there I'm like, we're gonna win no matter what. I have expectations to win, which is funny because in life I'm dominant.

15:22In sports I'm very below average. It's almost like this delusional reverse reality in my life. So anyway, the reason so many people are unhappy in life is they're the reverse of me. They don't care about sports, it's just a game. And then in real life they care about every little fucking thing. Expectations is motherfucker. They're literally the reverse of me. I take silly games as the most important thing. They all say it doesn't matter. Do you understand a game of Uno is like life and death to me? Do you understand me and AJ's only major fight in our life, major fight, was over Scattergories?

16:03Major, like fuck you, fuck you, we're done. We're in business together.

16:11I take games super serious, which aren't serious, and I take life super not serious, but it's super serious. That's the fucking twist, y 'all. That's the fucking twist. Charlie Garcia in the fucking building, what's good, sir? How you doing, sir? How are you? Good to meet you, Gary. Pleasure, my man, where are you from? Doing good. I'm from Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia. My man. What can I help you with? Yeah, so Right now I'm I have a good I have a pretty good job And honestly I'm not complaining But it's just I don't know I just I don't enjoy it As much as I used to Well, change Change your job I don't know It's just a really good paying Just a really good paying job And I don't know So suck it up

17:12and get your joy elsewhere.

17:17Yeah, I don't know. I guess I've also just reached out. I don't know, just the point where I just like, like I said in a text, I feel like I'm burnt out. I'm just feeling unmotivated. Well, then quit. You're a grown-ass man, my man. This is called life. Ain't nobody going to fucking hear your complaining that's gonna be productive. You're fucking strong. You're fucking capable. You're allowed to quit, try some other shit, fail at it, and then go get a job that's similar or the same job with your tail between your legs and it's all good. That's not failure. Actually, that's strength. You quitting and trying to make yourself happier and then losing and then going back to a job, I admire that.

18:03What I don't admire is dwelling.

18:09action my guy. Either take the action of sucking it the fuck up like we all do in many parts of our life. I don't do it in my job, I do it in other places. And fucking get your joy elsewhere or have the courage to chase a dream and get the fuck out. And then don't be scared of losing because if you lose in whatever the fuck your alternative is, you go back and get a job. That's called a real man. You're a real man. Big shout out to Bach Krug, I think. Bach Krug with the wind. It's so funny, Miao-E says in the chat, brother, you're 50, shut up. It's so funny, 50's the people that should be talking.

18:52What's that? The person that just won, Barbara, she works on the team. That's awesome. You know what I mean, Charlie? So what do you think you wanna do? What do you think you want to do?

19:10Honestly, I just, the job I have now is, I got really good at it. I've frozen, I'm not a manager, but I'm like, I've frozen to the top, the lead, basically lead tech company. Okay. And, but, I feel like I'm just working and it's just a repeated cycle just working at nine to five. There's almost no freedom for me at all. There's tons of freedom. Nine to five? Do you work nine to five? Is that the actual hours? It's 12 hours. 12 hours before days. You know what I think is happening? I think you just might be too talented. You're not challenged enough. I think you secretly know you've got more in you and can do more but you're scared of that I think you're listening to conservative people too much I think you're ready to jump and I think everyone around you is telling you not to because you got a good situation but I just think you're more talented than everybody that you're listening to think about this everyone who's telling you to stay in your job and then you got me telling you to quit your job and go.

20:31Of those people, who's more successful? Me or your fucking relatives that are telling you to stay in the fucking job? You. Good. Always judge who's giving you advice. It's the number one rule in life. Judge the judgers. All the people that are judging you, judge them back. So when your auntie says, what are you talking about? You have a great paying job. Be like, auntie, I don't want your life Charlie who are you living for You Or someone else

21:08I know the answer is for me But I don't know I just I grew up in a In a home book Where it was just me My mother and My brother And Cause I was young I wasn't even that young I was like 11 years old and so my father left us and I had to step up and become support from my mother. Yeah, I get it, bro. I admire the shit out of you. Both my parents lost a parent. I was the financial foundation of my family as a young dude. I get it. Guess what? It's not your fault that you ended up being more talented than what you're doing right now. It's a blessing. You need to walk into your destiny and if you fail, brother, let me promise you one thing now that I've chopped it up with you a little bit.

21:59If you go fail at the thing that you're trying to do that's bigger than what you're doing now, what you're doing now will take you back in open arms, whether at this company or something like this company. Let me promise you that, my fucking guy.

22:15Bro, you're fucking bored. Yeah. No shit. You're fucking bored, my dude. You're too talented for what the fuck you're doing. Quit and do something bigger And if you lose Go back to this At least you know you tried You won't regret Go jump bro You're bigger than your job You're gonna do better And don't worry about Everybody who boos you And tell your mom Or your brother Or somebody Anybody else that says What the fuck are you doing Gary V's wrong Tell them from Gary V Fuck you

22:48Yes sir Love you I will Love you too Appreciate you Thank you very much You're welcome. Tyler Hahn in the building. What's good, brother? How are you doing, Gary? I'm quite well. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. Where are you from? I wanted to ask you quick. So I am a recent federal employee. When the new administration came in, I took a resignation offer. So I stopped getting paid in about six months at the end of September. I have three, about to be four rental properties, and I'm working on a flip with some partners. I don't want to get another full-time job. I want to do full-time real estate on my own, doing my own thing.

23:28I just don't know what exactly that means and what I can do to do that. It sounds like you're doing that. A little bit. The issue is I don't have, what I have now doesn't take up 40 hours of my week. You know, I can do it in five to 10 and I still want to do more. I just don't know what that is. Why don't you do more of what you're doing? Well, I guess some of it is a money thing. To buy the rentals, I have to have a little bit of money, so I'm trying to figure out where to find the income to do that. Well, what about getting a job that is more in line with what you're interested in? So one of the things I think about is when you're a young kid like you wanting to get into a business, there's a ton of shit you don't know about this business.

24:09Right. Even if you got an entry-level job at a company that does what you do at way bigger scale, you'll be learning there. You see where I'm going? For sure, yeah, absolutely. So one of the options for you and everybody who's listening is to take jobs in companies that do what you're wanting to do to do it at a much bigger scale. Right? And so, because you'll learn. And so, I think one of the options for you, brother, is to go and get a job at a real estate company that does what you're doing at a much bigger level so that you can learn while you're there for a little while. I see. You see where I'm going?

24:53Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I have thought about that before. I guess the job market is a hard thing to get into one of those things. Yeah, but - I've tried to get into a mission. It's tough to do that. But again, if you decide to do it smaller, again, it sounds like you want to do this entrepreneurial thing. Absolutely. Are you willing to live humbly in this part of your early life? I do now. I live in, me and my wife live in a one room apartment that's part of one of the houses we are renting. Smart. She's a teacher. All our expenses are covered. So I can kind of take this time to do whatever.

25:30I can try to build something, be a realtor or something like that. Bro, you could also be the assistant or the greeter in a company that does what you want to do at a larger scale and get paid minimum wage. Right. You see where I'm going? Like the job market's hard when you try to get jobs that are bigger than you. You know how many people are doing that right now? Everyone's like the job market's hard. I dig in and double click and I look and the person's trying to get a job that is way overqualified for them. The job market's hard when you don't have humility. But I'm for sure a believer that you could get an entry level job in a real estate firm that does flipping at scale.

26:14Right. You see where I'm going, Ty? Yeah, absolutely. That. That. And if that's not it, get a job at a marketing firm that does personal branding as an assistant or a greeter or an entry level employee so that you can learn how to do content and marketing so you can use content and marketing for yourself to get deals and opportunities. I see, I see. You see where I'm going? Go work at somewhere that will teach you a skill that you want for yourself based on what you wanna do. even if it's an entry-level job. Right. Got it? Absolutely. Absolutely. I appreciate it, Gary. Thanks a lot. All right.

26:49Thank you. Yeah. All right. Pablo. Josh is asking, I work as the plant manager for a small family-owned manufacturing company. We have a maintenance technician that reports directly to me. He recently went through a workers' comp case and has created quite the headache for our HR department, lowering up and threatening legal action. His work ethic and skills are phenomenal and I don't want to lose him, but he has been a very emotional, dramatic employee. As an owner, would you allow someone like this to stay? When someone justifies bad behavior, and by the way, I don't know if this lawyering up, like that employee might be right.