How to Find Balance in 2025 | Retirement House

34:29Yeah. The question is, how do we not come across preachy? Right, nobody's gonna listen, right? The last 10 minutes we were talking, we are talking with a great hope for better for the world. But if you're on the other side of what we just talked about, it becomes a well in our day, well in our day, they're like, well fuck you, this is my day. So the question becomes, how do we make this valuable today? Today. And to me that becomes the question, which is, it's dialogue. It's not just, like for example, you started touching on it over here. Hey, at my age, here's the things that they had wrong back in the day.

35:12Good on you for having this fixed. For example, let's talk about real shit, since we're all here. In your day, when you were in your 20s and 30s, and I know this is a very touchy subject, but I want everybody to hear this. plenty of men hit their wives in their homes and no one did shit about it to the moon alice to the moon right so i would argue society has done a good job in making that better that's better right yes so i think one of the things as people who have so much to say that's just one example i can give you 30 more i'm sure we all have 30 more that we know where the me too thing has improved.

35:52Every woman being black in America in 1956 is like I don't think they know. And so I think we need to talk about things that have gotten better. And then things that we've just been spending 10 minutes on on things that have gone too far. I'll give you an example of something I'm very passionate about. I despise eighth place trophies. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. So everybody can win. That's right. It's called eighth place trophies. When we all grew up, when I grew up, even into the 90s, you'd go and be in a baseball league and one team won and they got the bread and everybody went home and said, the Cardinals won this year.

36:28As it should be. And then, and I believe this, in a well-intended manner, parents were like, oh, I'll give you an example. When I lost in third grade on my team in baseball, I was the starting pitcher of that game and gave up a run and we lost 3-1. I cried for four hours. And you're still crying. I still can't cry. I know. I can see it on your face. And I'm so glad I got to grow up in that generation. But I understand that characters like me that really cried, like really cried. And when your nine year old is crying, I get how parents well intended said, you know what, let's give everyone a trophy.

37:05Yes. You know what happened to me in my life? We went to the basketball state championships. Yes, I love this story already. We won. The first year we went, we won. Where was this, sir? The Montgomery, Alabama. I love it. And so I looked over at the other team's bench and they were crying. Yes. And I started crying. You felt bad for them? I did. You're a compassionate dude. And I wanted, you know what? I'm probably the reason this thing was birthed. This is your fault. I found him, everyone. This man right here. I wanted everybody to win. I get you. You know, it's funny. I mean, that's a beautiful thing.

37:43Let me tell you what happened. One man's point of view. but who spends a lot of time analyzing this. We got into this eighth place trophy thing and what we started telling kids who were four, five, six, seven is losing is bad. Be careful. You don't want that. Losing is so bad that we, and kids are smart, right? You know this. This is where people get confused. Like, again, probably your parents' generation more than y 'all, but kids used to work full time at nine years old. They're tougher than you think. Starting with me. There you go. now we baby people 33 year olds are being treated like four year olds yeah like this is the world we live in now and so we we one of the biggest issues in our society is that people are scared to lose oh that's and oh this is what's happened what you did not feel growing up was there was winning and losing and it just seemed super normal like oxygen like the sun coming up something in the last 30 to 40 years changed where we've demonized losing this goes back to of prosperity.

38:46You know, another thing that happens with 75 years of prosperity, parents have other things to think about. One of the reasons that this has all happened is parents are so in their kid's shit because they have time. Y 'all grew up in generation, when everyone's being sent to war, like when the mom is going to build bombs in the fucking armory in Midtown, like shit was different. And so there's just all these big dynamics. This was all long-winded to say the following. thank you thank you to the six of you and to the team because we need more like i my hope is that you have 87 150 more podcasts that look something like this you may be razzed by and be like we invented that's fine that's y 'all but the world needs 500 5 000 of these shows we need to get these conversations going right we need them out there yeah in their well we try we give that brings me to wanting to ask you about podcasts because in the beginning i thought ah podcast now i see that so much information like this is getting out in podcasts yes it's replacing the media it's the new radio yes yeah it's it's fabulous of course and again this is why i want you to tell history lessons you all try to think of yours you caught the tip like this will maybe you were to But you all, no, actually, you all either touched on it or you were a hair young, but you definitely were close enough to it.

40:16You were the generation and definitely your parents that watched our society go from a radio first society to a television first. Right, I used to listen to the radio. That's right. Only the shadow. The shadow knows. We saw the birth of television. You saw the birth of television. We were so poor, we didn't have a radio. You went over someone's house to listen to the first. Right, right. The reason boxing and baseball and horse racing were the three biggest sports in America was because they were very good sports on the radio. You could picture it. Football, American football, didn't take off until the television came along because it's not as good when somebody casts the radio.

40:57But it's an incredible product when you watch it on television. So where I'm going with this podcast thing is, what, again, back to history, back to wisdom. back to a presidential election. Let's talk about that. John F. Kennedy Jr. does not win, is not the president of the United States if the television isn't invented. If you remember this, Nixon kills, in all the exit polling, Nixon killed him on the radio. But the boy did he win on the television. But I'm not telling you girls know, but on that television, his suit was tight. Nixon was sweating. I met him. Yeah, you did. Yes, I did. When I was 19 or something in New York, he walked across a ballroom to talk to me.

41:45And for the next 50 years of my life, I said, and you talk about Kennedy women, you're talking about me. I get it. And so again, what we're living through now, these kids, me and the prime of my business career, we're living through the world going from a primary television society to a primary. Back to radio. Yes, absolutely. And right, to where I'm going. And then everything that's old is new, except the distribution is different. Right. What's different about podcasts and radio is in the radio era, one man got to decide what was on the radio. Yeah. Got it? Yeah. This world's real fun, because guess what?

42:26You didn't ask for permission. You just made this shit. That's right. And invited you. Thank you. And so anyway, things that used to be become new versions, the world turns. There's really clear macro reasons we're going through all this. But again, I know I'm repeating it, but I have so much of it in my heart. I'm just so grateful you all are doing this. Thank you so much. And listen, will you tell us about the new book? You have a new book. I do. I have a new book coming out in July called Day Trading Attention. And? it's a business book but it's a marketing book it's a book about all that's happening so um the term day trading as you all know again when you were growing up that wasn't a term the stock market was done a certain way and this and that and then computers came along as you all remember right and you could day trade that's right in the mid-90s it became a term and why are you on that subject you uh i heard you say that you've never read a book in your life so I want you to.

43:27He's done some homework. I've read like four or five. I read Joe Namath's book because that's my hero because I'm a Jets fan. I've read very few books. That's true. I know it's been tough. I've read probably six to 10 books in my life, but it's because in hindsight, I have a reading comprehension issue that I didn't know about. And so it's not that I'm mad at books. It's just that I can't retain information that way. On the flip side, everything I've ever seen visually or heard auditorily, I remember forever. But my reading comprehension is very poor. And to this day, the team will send me a long email and I'll reply, three minute meeting.

44:04Because I need to hear it. Right? And so this is why, like, this is the journey of life. I didn't know that was the case. This is some of the things that got better. All of us grew up in an era where schools weren't looking for those disabilities, shortcomings. They just thought you were not smart. Move along. Right, move along. Now we have a system that analyzes kids differently, does know these things. and it's lovely because a lot of kids who grew up with very bad self-esteem because they were bad at school. I got lucky. I had a mom who made sure I knew I was the best regardless of my grades.

44:34I love your mom. Me too. She really nailed it. And I'll tell you why you'll love her even more. She made me think that I was the best but if I didn't do the right thing there was real fucking ramifications. She was still a Soviet mom. So she gave me that purple. She didn't make me think a D represented who I was. She wasn't that cliche parent that, A, A, A. But if I was fresh, if I was, I mean, you know what's so funny when I say this? Do you know that I never disrespected my mom in my life? I wouldn't even, it wouldn't even. Dawn on you. It wouldn't even, it didn't even, A, I liked her too much and B, I was too scared to do it.

45:15Yeah. That's the thing with mine. I knew great. Both. I admired and adored her. and fuck that shit. I'm not trying to give up. I never was scared because, well, mom was so short, you know, spankings didn't hurt anymore. Got you. But dad wouldn't spank but what killed me was when he'd say, oh. Disappointed. There you go. One word. That's all it took because I got caught doing a, we used to call a five-finger discount. Yeah, I know what it is. I wanted to bring him some Jordan almonds for them for their anniversary. The guy at the grocery store back then caught me. You better tell your parents they're like a dummy.

45:52I told him. And he said, you grounded. What a different world. He said, you grounded for a week. I said, but I told you the truth. Yeah, if you didn't, it would have been two weeks. See? Okay, that's. And then he said disappointed. Again, again, consequence. It's just finding the balance. It's finding the middle. All I want for the world, because I love the world, I love people. Yeah. All I want is to take the good shit that you all grew up with and leave the bad shit because you grew up with plenty of bad shit and take all the good shit that these kids have and leave all the bad shit and find that middle.

46:29And that's where we're really building a bridge between all the young people that we meet and us and it's so exciting. So exciting. You know what else is exciting? What? Your strawberry earrings. I'm very excited. I wore these. I like it. Thank you. I love them. I love them. Yes, sir. Can you unpack for me? You said something about the earring thing threw me off. I'm sorry. I apologize. I thought me too when you did that. I did respect intent matters. Luckily, intent still. Actually, that's a good topic. While you think intent. Yeah. When y 'all grew up, when somebody made a mistake, we took intent into the equation.

47:18Yes. and so you were like that's fucked up but i knew he was like today we're so quick to judge yeah we're not taking intent into the equation i see people jumping on people for such i see it all the little things little things out guns and shooting okay nowadays you've made your point on the guns and knives it's there but it's like there's there's much more emotional warfare going on than guns and knives yeah i don't care what he meant that's what this is what that yeah that it's this it's this lack of capacity for civility for understanding people are allowed to have a different point of view right and it hits powder kids it hit it in the 60s yeah yeah you lived in the 50s you lived in the 70s you know what the 60s was and it's hitting now and my hope is that there's prosperity on the other side of this one step back societally and i believe there is the The number one thing I am is optimistic.

48:15Me too. Right? I believe in people. Do I believe there's some stuff that I wish was better? Sure. And guess what? Every day that you breath the breath, there was some shit that was fucked up and a lot of it got better and some of it hasn't. And so humans have done a good job evolving and moving it. I just think we're dwelling too much on what's wrong right now in society instead of being happy of what's right. Amen. And that's gonna make you depressed. It's hard to wake up at 25 or 95 if your entire perspective is based on what's wrong. Yeah, exactly. I believe the following sentence is the most important sentence in life.

48:52In life, you will find what you're looking for. So you wake up and you want... Yes, when you create it. That's it. If you want to wake up and decide everything's bad, good news. Everything will be bad. You can find special. But as someone who decides the alternative, you would be stunned. my circle of friends, my algorithm. I show my algorithm to some friends. They're like baffled. It's like kittens coming from a tree. Like, it's so positive. And they're like, mine, I'm like, you're choosing. Yeah. You're choosing. Please. You're definitely choosing. Of course. You either have a half full or a half empty.

49:26That's it. And you choose the half empty. You're looking for trouble. Can I ask you all a question? Yeah. In your experience amongst your contemporaries that are still with us luckily how often have you seen people change like change not slightly tweak i mean fundamental from negative to positive have you a lot in in the in the fourth quarter instead of the first quarter meaning have you seen a lot of people change in their 60s 70s 80s from who they were the first 50 years of their life a lot i think they get worse i i haven't seen a lot if If you live a good life, and I decided to make a conscious decision that as I grew older, that I would be nice and learn how to be nice.

50:15So when I get old and out of control, I will still be and I will still be nice. I had a pastor that had a stroke and, you know, people, they really lose control over everything. Yes. He never cursed and bad. They were doing bad things to him. Yes. He never cursed. He never spoke ill of anyone. Yes. He had practiced that his entire life. And I wanted to do that. Good for you. No matter what happens in the 80s and 90s. Did you actively become a nicer person? I actively became a nicer person. At what age? Believe it or not. At what age? I didn't want to say anything, but okay, go ahead. At what age?

50:52No, this is important to me. This is me getting this. I want this for me and for everyone. At what age would you say? In my 40s. Yeah. It's like certain things. It's like, this is not acceptable behavior. This was you being accountable to yourself. Yes. The way I'm acting towards others is not nice enough. I need to level up. Right. And I wasn't a bad person. I get it. Now, is that an example of knowing how to read yourself? Yeah, that's called self-awareness. Brother. Self-awareness. Man. And you know all this. Back to people in your lives, people you still know. There's nothing more frustrating when you can see someone and they can't see themselves.

51:31Amen. in oh yeah yeah right right that for us especially when we love them our mom right like it kills us because we want it for them and i think a lot about self-awareness i think about how does one become more self-aware right there's a level of vulnerability i think about therapy talk about another hey there's a good one talk about something the world has done a good job with when you were growing up yeah going to the psychiatrist oh no taboo cuckoo bad bad now Now people find, and so what ended up happening? We took out our pain on our family. Oh yeah. So we would blow up on our family. Now people have found a way to go to a third party and be able to talk through things.

52:08That's a beautiful evolution. It's part of health care. Right? That's right. Mental health care. Or it should be at least. So anyway, self-awareness I think about a lot. And I think it's grounded in humility. I think it's grounded in vulnerability. Another thing that we weren't taught. we were tough but we didn't know how to use vulnerability to our advantage right we didn't we didn't and so these are things i think about but yes that's self-awareness and it's it's why i believe to me self-awareness is the great energy a human can have because once you go then you get to decide if you're going to address it because if you don't see it you can't you can't fix it right but if you can see it then you're starting to choose if you can fix it and And I think once people can see it, they're much more likely to fix it.

52:56I think when people, a lot of us get mad and we say, you're stubborn. They don't see it. They don't see it, sir, right? The second they see it, oftentimes they will start to make their attempts to fix it. But it is very hard to see your blinds. I'll give you, I'll be vulnerable. I was a very, I was very well-parented and I got very lucky DNA wise and I've lived a very, very joyous life and I'm very proud of who I am. And I've managed people my whole life because my dad eventually had a liquor store that I worked in. I took it over at 22. And I've been managing people my whole life and I manage 3 ,000 people right now.

53:33And I was really proud of it. But somewhere about five years ago, I had a really low point where I realized my inability to be candorous to my employees. I'm very candorous in this setting as Gary Vee, as a public speaker, as an author on podcasts. But if I love you, like I love Dustin because you've worked for me for five years and now it's more family than just stranger. I wasn't good at communicating things that were bothering me. I love the story where you almost fired the employee who beat you at rock scissors. Yes, thank you. Well, that's called out of balance competitiveness. That's a different story for another podcast.

54:12But to go back to what we're talking about, sir. I had a moment, a series of life events, both personal and professional. I was like, wait a minute. what I used to think was my gift which was I kept it positive was actually me painting a fake picture to myself. I was unable to be candorous and give feedback from a good place because I thought the people would be scared that they're on their way to getting fired and I didn't want them to be scared. So I tried to fix it in different ways. Inevitably because I was still running a business there would be moments where I would fire these people and in essence they were getting fired without warning because I wasn't able to get the feedback.

54:50And then it got worse. So that was already hard enough that I knew people walked around earth that weren't happy with me because I did wrong by them and I would make the excusable and which would be my subjective opinion. They weren't good at their job. I let them be there for an extra year. I was the one who was mad. And that's what was going on in my head. I'll tell you where it got really bad for me. When I realized my most senior people, the people who've been with me for five to 15 years, the most comped, the most important, they were actually scared. which was my great pride that I was eliminating fear.

55:22That is my great, I believe a leader eliminates fear. Definitely, a good leader. A good leader. And I was like crushing that, I thought, until I had this real series of events where I was like, wait a minute, all of these people that are like literally so close to me and it's going so well, they're actually a little scared because they don't know where they actually sit with me because I don't give them candor. And now this has been going on long enough at enough scale and it was devastating. I mean, truly, I can picture myself in my bathroom, looking in the mirror, the moment I had the moment.

55:54Yeah. Authentic. Oh my God. I've spent 25 years patting myself on the back that I eliminate fear. And I went too far to one side and created fear. And I was crushed. But - You changed. That's right. Back to accountability. Back to self-awareness, to accountability, to change. And it has been a profoundly positive impact on my personal and professional life over the last five years it still doesn't come natural to me it's still the hardest thing for me but when you go from a one to a six you feel it i'm not like a 10 like in a lot of other areas but i'm on my way to an eight and that's good yeah authentic that's the most important amazing thing be authentic in this moment could you and i'll jump in a second but I want to add one thing to that because I want everyone to hear this authentic yes but the way you make people feel matters and a lot of people use authenticity and candor as an excuse to be mean wow ah so yes authentic but when delivering authenticity remembering how you make someone feel is how it is I think we've experienced a little bit of that in the last few days that's right i think one of the things that bothers me the i mean back to jfk and nixon they didn't see the same the world the same at all these kids don't realize that the liberals and conservatives things been going on forever forever but the level of civility they had to each other the way these politicians talk to each other is amazing it's a fucking third grade bad kid it's disgusting no one ever spanked them you should it's always saying to say something sir oh i get so into what you're talking about that i i just lose mine thank you you know if i'm holding on to mine i'm not listening i'm humbled he won't fire you then he'll think of it i'll think of it in a minute yeah no yeah oh i was going to ask you to if you would please explain NFT to me.

58:06Yes. NFTs, you're going to like this. I'm about to explain NFTs in a way that's going to really bring a lot of value to everyone in the room. NFTs are non-fungible tokens. That's what it stands for. It references something that sits on something called the blockchain. Have you heard the term the blockchain? This is what Bitcoin sits on. Let me explain it. The internet. Let me take a step back to make this even more explainable. The internet as we know it, runs on servers and i don't expect everybody to be nerdy and like technically like deep but they run on servers that like websites you call a server and it shows you the website they run on servers no different than the phone lines it runs on servers those servers are owned by people amazon owns their servers the us government owns its servers go daddy owns its servers the those are servers that are owned by companies thus owned by people right right the blockchain are servers around the world that talk to each other but nobody owns them why is that important there is an entire ecosystem of technology being run that the code runs it not the servers all the servers can be take away a new service can do the thing meaning not america not china not russia not facebook not amazon not google nobody owns it yay here's why what that means is it becomes a decentralized not a centralized depository why is that important that means the tech i mean this is getting a little nerdy but i'm trying to Let me go macro.

59:52What it's going to do is allow for the world to have a technology infrastructure that is completely fair because no one can change it. Thank God. Okay. Okay. Let me, I'm going very high for you to tell you why I'm very bullish on NFTs. Not the way everybody in this room knows NFTs, which was a couple summers ago, collectibles, art. That's great. I like comic books and trading cards. All of you grew up when comic books and trading cards were worth nothing. and all those superman number one and batman number one and mickey mantle rookie cards that you all played with that are worth millions of dollars you fucked up yes wait my cousin invented superman and when i was four years old i had all these capes and superman things and everything else what do i have now threw it all out i wish i bought them at a garage sale from you yeah anyway these decentralized servers sir are a big deal let me explain back to history lessons the u.s dollar used to be attached to the gold standard yeah you remember that and then richard nixon when he did finally become president took us off that led to a very different world that we're all growing up with that you didn't which is why there's so much money out there because you can keep printing it Yeah.

1:01:13Holy fuck. The reason everyone is fascinated, that is fascinated by Bitcoin is there's only a certain amount. That's right. As the world becomes more digital, digital currency. Ah, here's a good, again, when people are like, this cryptocurrency, it's stupid. It'll never happen. I'm like, what about credit cards? And when I talk to a 35 year old, they're like, what do you mean? But when I talk to someone who's older, everybody here remembers when everyone said credit cards would never take off because cash is king. Right? And I bet you some of you said I will never have a credit card because I'm not going to buy something I can't afford.

1:01:49Right? That's something these kids have never thought of in their entire fucking life. The world, right? So we used to live in a world where if the cash didn't exist, people couldn't even imagine it. I'm sure you actually remember the first time you got a credit card and the first time you used it, it was like fucking magic, right? It was different. Right? Yes. These are why I want you all to talk. Like to me, a podcast where you get a lot of people and talk about what it was like when the world moved from just cash to credit cards would then help these kids understand why cryptocurrency is an interesting debate, a foregone conclusion or wherever they take it.

1:02:30So NFT, sirs, ready for this? Yes. Contracts. Your marriage license, the deed on your home. as you all know you grew up in an era where safety deposit box really mattered yeah yeah right yeah because there were certain pieces of paper that all of us were petrified of losing i still have that that's right yes these kids know no idea what the hell we're talking about because everything is digital and the thought of losing anything is no big deal docu sign they said but our contracts were everything yeah yes well what is interesting is their contracts still sit on servers that somebody else owns wow got it yeah so there's a lot of interesting things that are going on in the world and you're only as safe as and again back to your parents generation when those banks failed yeah and that money went away the great depression came yeah right no kid that is on the other side of these cameras right now ever thinks about if they if someone scams their credit card the bank refunds them they don't have to worry sort of no always oh i just went through that well we'll talk about i'll help you none of these kids they know that if they get a fraud alert and somebody got their credit card number and spent two thousand dollars in vegas that they'll get that money back they'll get it back every time if they didn't all of them would care about that privacy a lot more yeah exactly and so what's happening is these dynamics are playing it's a long-winded answer to explain this sir i believe every contract in the world every deed every contract an athlete signing a contract with a football team that every contract in the world in 20 years will be an nft yeah it will be a non-fungible token that sits on the blockchain because it is ironclad and nobody can touch it and it's the safest thing humans have ever invented do i believe one percent of those things will be collectibles i do one of the biggest problems in high art people that pay 20 million dollars for a painting is if it's fake yeah yeah in the old world that we all are growing up in now kind of tricky fake baseball cards fake handbags fake art in the blockchain world not hard it's on the blockchain non-touched so do i believe like trading cards, comic books, marbles, stamps.

1:04:55Remember when that was big? Do I believe that NFT collectibles will be a thing? Yes, 1 % of all the NFTs that are made will be collectible. But do I think it's a bigger thing that people are gonna learn? And this is where it gets into. You know how you address fake stuff? By having a blockchain. So for example, do you know what a deep fake video is? Yes. Proud of you. this is videos that's right very good we're about to have all of them there will be millions of videos of me on the internet in a couple years saying things i never said right yeah right yeah and it's going to be hard to decipher if that's me or not we'll know we'll know the real thank you my man that's going to change the world but the blockchain if i upload all my videos on the blockchain first and prove that it's real and then it goes to the internet will be a source of truth that the world desperately needs.

1:05:50Right now, as you know, fake news. Well, guess what? When the world gets blockchained, it's going to get a lot better. And so I'm very excited about the future of NFTs and blockchain. Well, I'm excited with that explanation. Thank you. That's really exciting. Thank you, right? More interesting. By the way, that's been the story of my career. If you ask me what's worked for me, for the first seven years that I made content on the internet, it was about wine. just wine but as you may know and you've also watched wine be something nobody cared about really in america was more bourbon and all that to wine got more popular in the 80s and 90s and 2000s one of the reasons i took off was i was explaining wine in a way that people could understand because you know this do you know anybody who's really into wine in your friends or family yeah good nobody's buying library i get it but you know what i'm what what is happening is as you know wine people are pretentious and so i came along and like dumb not dumb eat it down but just made it normalized and i do the same thing with technology i'm an average joe and so i can process and explain in that way you're not exactly average you were born with that with that that thing in your belly that makes you the way that's why you didn't like to do schoolwork that's right because you were too smart for the school that's right but you liked the other parts when you're 11 you're kind of older than you think and i would look at the world and i'm like why don't all the straight a students make all the money and have all the happiness yes like literally that that was a vivid conversation i had with myself i'm like if a's are so important why are all these grown-ups that i know here are the a students i know doing just okay financially desperately not happy here are some d's and f's and c students sometimes like that but sometimes very happy it was just very clear to me before i was even a teenager that success at school did not equate success in life and so about the football player who was the rave of the whole school and then later his parking car that's exactly right what's popular in high school gets really unpopular in your 30s and so and and so like that's life and that's and again that's the i believe that's the biggest impact all of you can do and i feel it's the responsibility i have as someone who's happy i believe negativity has gotten very loud yes and i believe positivity stays pretty quiet within its circles and i've taken on the responsibility to be very loud with my positivity and i hope to inspire others to do so so you you talk about something called practical positivity yeah practical optimism yes practical uh what is that yeah unpack that a little bit as you know we all have friends that are delusional optimists yes yes i'll give you an example of delusional optimism i'm gonna write my life's goal on a vision board and then i'm gonna sit on my couch and look at it and it's gonna come true yes right so what i call practical optimism is you have to work for it too right yes like i think there's too much delusion in the world like this word manifesting like people like some people literally think they're yoda and are going to just think it to real life yeah and it's because it's an excuse to not do no gary you don't get it i'm spiritual i'm gonna manifest i'm like no you don't get it like you could sit in an ice bath all day long if you want to build an empire you're gonna have to work like by the way you don't need to build an empire you can decide to go to the hudson valley and sit in a nice bath and live like this is the point that i'm really trying to make live the life you want to but be practical about what's coming out of your mouth yes right like where people are getting hurt is their mouth is saying one thing and their actions are saying something else but don't you don't you think that people say oh i'm an optimist and i'm da da da da and then they start complaining about whether the uber driver is there in five seconds well this goes into things i think a lot about i believe that i believe complaining is the great pandemic thank you i really do that's number one on the list yes see and again kids watch look at their body language there's something to that again it doesn't mean things aren't wrong this is where people get confused it's nuanced yeah yeah like people like gary but what the what about this i'm like yes yeah i'm like what about sexism like it's real yes i'm like but if you spend every minute of your life worrying about these things complaining about sexism and doing nothing about it you are going to be very unhappy thank you and part of the problem like and again there were things that your great-grandparents dealt with that were bad there are things you dealt with there are things we're dealing with and our great-grandchildren are going to deal with shit two humans are not perfect but the point of this entire hour together the point of my mission the point that i hope the world gets better at is there will always be something the question is what are you doing about it yes do something don't complain that's absolutely right like and by the way where this where so many people have gotten confused and not just this generation i love when people like this generation what both boomers on facebook and gen z on tiktok when you say something on social media that is not doing something right the confusion that's the country what are you doing and so you know for me when i feel passionate about something i try to do action you keep you want to get into better shape it's not about reading about push-ups tweeting that you're gonna do push-ups it's doing fucking push-ups very basic i mean i can't hire somebody to do them for me we are getting to that i wanted to get back if we could for the nft to dummy it down for me if i do have documents how do i go about getting them the question is yeah i mean that goes into something called minting so you would so for you because i think i could see that we're wrapping up your next guesses here but and this is a long-winded thing but this is what i love about your question and for everyone if you go to how do i mint an nft if you type that into google yeah if you're if you're like me you'll have to watch a video or listen to audio yeah yeah yes because i'm reading comprehension yeah if you have good reading comprehension there's a million articles on how to do it and then you do it oh okay gotcha i love you thank you thank you so much for your time and energy and just making our day and teaching us so much and will you come see us again come to la 100 percent make people laugh in firm minted on the blockchain thank you for having me thank you thank you