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The GaryVee Audio Experience: How to Monetize Your Passion in 2025
Episode Overview In this episode, Gary Vaynerchuk delivers actionable insights on how to market oneself in 2025 effectively. He emphasizes the importance of overcoming excuses and taking advantage of the myriad opportunities available to entrepreneurs, marketers, and content creators. The session features live questions from listeners, tackling themes of social media, personal branding, and the emotional aspects of entrepreneurship.
Key Themes & Takeaways
- Overcoming Fear and Excuses
- Reality Check: Many entrepreneurs limit themselves due to fear and misconceptions propagated by documentaries and media.
- Opportunity: Emphasizes that there is never a bad time to start leveraging social media for business, regardless of past missed opportunities.
- Social Media Strategies
- TikTok Live: Continues to be a significant opportunity for growth, even amidst fears of potential bans.
- Platforms to Utilize:
- LinkedIn & Facebook: Essential for real business growth.
- Content Types: Encourages the use of live sessions and engaging content to connect with audiences.
- Balancing Passion Projects with Business
- The Struggle for Balance: Discusses the challenge of managing a passion project alongside a primary business.
- Reframing the Concept of Balance: Suggests that individuals need to recognize their efforts and not be overly critical of their time management.
- Turning Passion into Profits
- Art as a Business: A caller shares her journey blending her artistic passion with business, illustrating common fears and the potential for profitability in niche markets.
- Investment in Growth: Encourages prioritizing time for both passions and understanding the earning potential of new ventures.
- Mindset in Entrepreneurship
- Perspective on Failure: Encourages embracing failures as learning experiences rather than setbacks.
- Combating Burnout: Challenges the narrative around burnout, advocating for resilience and a focus on the journey rather than just outcomes.
- Engagement with Customers
- Prioritizing Customer Relationships: Emphasizes the importance of maintaining connections with customers, even during personal challenges.
- Content Creation: Stresses the significance of producing content to keep customers engaged and informed.
Live Questions & Discussions
A. Balancing Multiple Ventures
- A single mother shares her experience of trying to manage a flower business and art simultaneously.
- Gary's Advice: Reassures her that she is balancing well and encourages her to focus on her strengths rather than societal expectations.
B. Feedback on Business Initiatives
- A community leader discusses mixed feedback from a Hispanic community initiative.
- Gary's Perspective: Suggests focusing on the value brought to the community rather than the negativity from a few.
C. Transitioning Careers
- A young entrepreneur seeks to move from door-to-door sales to a marketing career.
- Gary's Guidance: Emphasizes making content consistently and learning from the process, encouraging him to reach out for opportunities at VaynerMedia.
D. Preparing for New Life Events
- A pregnant entrepreneur laments over her business and potential neglect of customers.
- Gary's Assurance: Urges her to focus on her health and the miraculous event of pregnancy rather than stressing over business operations.
Conclusion This episode encapsulates Gary Vaynerchuk's philosophy of action-oriented entrepreneurship, pushing listeners to embrace opportunities, face fears, and maintain a positive mindset. He encourages continuous self-improvement, resilience in the face of challenges, and the importance of community engagement and customer relationships.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This is the Gary Vee Audio Experience. Hey everybody, before I go into today's podcast if you're listening to this before 9 a.m. Eastern Time, which I know a lot of you are dog walking, the gym just consuming on your travel. I'm live right now probably if you're hearing this or shortly. I'm live at 9 a.m. Am I doing it on all my socials? I'm live on all my socials and then the questions themselves, the Tea with Gary Vee show is back if you're unaware. The questions themselves are on Whatnot. So go check that out. We're at vfriends.com slash live for that. vfriends.com. vfriends is my Pokemon meets Marvel world.
0:41If you're not aware of it, I know some of you heard of it when I was doing NFTs two, three years ago, which I'm still doing and that's the ultimate collectible. But it's now become a huge cartoon, vfriends.com slash cartoons. If you have somebody under 10 in your life, it's become a kid's book, it's become a big, big deal. Go check that out. That's vfriends.com slash live. the Gary Vee show that you all loved. Tea with Gary Vee is live right now today at 9 a.m. See you on my socials. See you in a little bit. Hope you enjoyed today's podcast. I'm excited to be doing Tea with Gary Vee. I'm gonna do a lot in 2025.
1:15It's my home. I miss it. It was such a big deal in COVID and I hope to see you there. Hit me up on Twitter or on text at 212-9315-731 and let me know if you're excited about Tea with Gary Vee back. In fact, actually, go to my Instagram post right now and leave a tea emoji if you heard this. I just wanted to get a sense of how many people are cross-pollinating between the podcast and Instagram. And I'll see you on Tea with Gary Vee today, 9 a.m. Eastern. I was following you, and you said get on TikTok in 2019, and I did, and it was blowing up. I do artwork, and at the time, you know, I'm a single mom, and it just was kind of overwhelming.
1:51I watched Social Dilemma. I got freaked out about this big app, and I literally deactivated, deleted the whole thing. I had a video go viral. Let's even, you know, because I want to bring a lot of value to everybody who's watching. This is why I hate when the world sells fear. Yeah. Right? You watch a documentary on Netflix. The documentary's full objective is to scare people about the downside of social networks or technology. There's always downside. There's downside of automobiles. When cars were invented, people could drink alcohol, drive a car and kill someone. That didn't happen when we had horses.
2:32But it doesn't mean that that's the problem. And like, just, I'm sorry to jump in, but it's a big opportunity to help a lot of people. Don't let the world scare you. You were building. You were following somebody who was selling love and optimism and practicality. And that was leading to good. Then you consumed something that was selling fear for no fucking reason. And it threw you off. Keep going Yeah, I was in a fight or fight place And it was like, alright, I'm going to be scared And family was freaked out about stuff too So I was like, whatever, I got pushed that way So I dropped that I took over a flower business four years ago I absolutely love it I am doing what I love It was my sister's business I recently heard about somebody That was making a lot of money on TikTok Who had started a year ago And I was like, okay, maybe it's not too late I'm still going to hop on there so I did so real quick on that yeah it's never too for everybody who's watching it's never too late to start doing good activity mm-hmm right like like just because you missed bitcoin or crypto or tiktok or influencer marketing or live social shopping which we're doing right now like it's there's never a bad time to start doing good shit it's even like working out like I've had a good five weeks even though I've had a bad 40 weeks and it like feels good like it feels good yes well and i think pursuing your passion no matter what is the right choice and you talk about that all the time so doing flowers i do feel like i am pursuing my passion i get to create the the business is lucrative i'm making better money than i've made in past stuff that i've done and i'm happy but gary i'm still an artist i'm a watercolor artist and i still have something bigger that i want to share with the world and it's like i see tiktok as an opportunity to do that.
4:24You're right. I've started going live on TikTok for about a month and I'm making money in my lives. Painting. I'm doing names. I do little dog portraits and it just kind of hooked doing names. People want their names drawn. You don't say. I'm so shocked to hear that TikTok live and shopping is working for you. Go figure. Go fucking figure. I'm like, I hired this coach. It's a girl who's been on TikTok since July just because I'm freaking inspired by her. And last week she made 20K just in the week going live. I mean, no shit. There's a huge potential to make money going live. Who the fuck are you telling?
5:08I know. So what's the question? Okay. The question is, so now I've got this business. I mean, I read your recent book. I listened to it on audio. I'm like, okay, I'm promoting my flowers. I need to be on all these different networks, but I'm also promoting my art. Now I'm taking an extra 10 to 12 hours a week going live, which isn't even enough. I need to be going live more. I don't know how to balance it all. I'm a single mom. You're balancing it. You're balancing it. The reason you don't know how to balance it is because you're judging yourself. Good news. You're fucking balancing it. Thank you.
5:44The end. Thank you. Why are you beating yourself up? What is balance? Who the fucking, where is this king or queen of balance? Where is this lord of balance that everybody's been telling me about? Who the fuck is the king of balance? Yeah, I wanna be the queen of balance and it's hard. You are the queen, no, it's actually easy. You are the queen of balance. Let me show you how to do it. You, Queen Sasha, the queen of balance, have decided right here this morning at 9.07 Eastern that you are good at balance, that you're balancing it. you've decided thank you no not not thank you not me telling you you realize what i'm actually saying i'm not trying to be nice to you i'm not trying to be kind to you i'm trying to get you to wake up that there is no such thing and either you decide you are balancing it or you decided you're not balancing it 99 of the people that are watching tea with gary v right now have decided they're not balancing it because most of the people in the world live in a place of the reason you were susceptible to that documentary was because most people are prepared to be scared yeah i live in a place of love i live in a place of love now love is different love is amazing i'm talking about fear oh i know i know because i've been there correct so very simply you are balancing it who gets to decide you're trying your best you're doing the flower thing you're doing the the watercoloring thing you're you're a single mom and doing that thing you're fucking living i guess i like okay the fear is that i'm taking away from my flower business and that is my bread and butter so is it your bread and butter because because i hear that you're starting to make money on your art online i think the earning potential online is going to be a a lot higher than what it is in my flower shop.
7:46So it sounds like you're investing. So keep going. Yes, I'm investing. I'm investing.
7:57Yes, no, that's it. And by the way, let's make up scenarios. And then January 19th comes, and for some reason, the US bans TikTok, well then you'll adjust, and then Instagram will have live, like everything is manageable. Yes, yes. And I watched you talk about that too, because I was like, what if it does disappear? And you really brought just, it's okay. It's okay if it does. And things are going to keep evolving. Everything's okay. Yeah. It's called fucking life. Shit's going to fucking happen. Somebody is going to wake up today as a seven-year-old and have their father have a heart attack and change the course of their life.
8:33That will happen today. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't understand how people are confused out here. Yeah. we are all collectively capable of dealing with shit. Our great grandparents laugh. Our great great grandparents are watching us in heaven and saying these fucking pusses, these fucking pusses, the fuck are they crying about? We had fucking famine, we had fucking world wars, we didn't have shit. The fuck are these kids crying about? Well, I get that. You know, I have a six month younger cousin who passed away from cancer about five years ago. And it's like, that's a big wake-up call. That is my baby cousin.
9:17If you have a cousin who had this tragic event happen, that should absolutely not allow you to be concerned about what you're worried about. Totally. Right? What's going to happen? Let's play role play. You're going to spend too much time on your art and the flower shop is going to be down 18%. Who gives a fuck? Thank you. As soon as that happens, if that goes on for six months and you're like, oh fuck, the flower shop is down 16%, well then you can fucking adjust. And go back to spending more time on the fucking flower shop. Okay, that brings a lot of peace to my heart. Thank you. Well good, good.
9:56Have the best day. Right Dustin? Our fucking great great grandparents are chilling in heaven right now and they're just like, what the fuck's the matter with these people?
10:08they're like we have anxiety over dumb shit somebody made fun of me fucking 18 year olds getting shipped off to Europe front lines to shoot Germans in the face or get shot in the face and we're fucking sad because somebody left a comment that said you suck like some girl doesn't like you who gives a fuck There's four billion other girls. The fuck? All right, next person. Andre, what's good, brother? Hey, Gary, how are you, sir? Thank you so much for doing this. I'm thrilled to be here with you, my guy. Man, I am shaking because I've been following you for like the last five to six years and I have taken all of your advice.
10:54I bought your book, Day Trading Attention, which I just gave away yesterday. After reading it three times, I gave it away in my networking group, which is my question to you today, sir. Go ahead. I want to fill you in a little bit with what I do. I live in a small town in Middle Tennessee. The population here is about 25 ,000 people. The U.S. census says that 25 % of the community here is Hispanic, which I am a member of. So 25 % of the 25 ,000 people are Hispanic in this town in Tennessee. Go. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. and so i started a a page called shovelville in spanish so which is the town that i live in so i update the community about anything that's going on we've been able to establish um relationships with a lot of like the schools the um the non-profit organizations and all this whatever is going on here so we then i then took over a local networking group that i that had been here for the last 15 to 10 years.
11:53And so I started incorporating value. I really wanted to bring value to the people, to the attendees. And so the way that we do it is 30 minutes of open networking. The first 30 minutes, then we do a 10 minute sit down video podcast with a different guest, a different business owner every month. And we only do it once a month. And then we do an activity afterwards. The last 20 minutes is an activity. Either we do... I got it. speech networking. Got it. So go to the question. The problem is that yesterday we were highlighting one of the Hispanic businesses for the first time. We decided to do it in Spanish and I've just been getting kind of some negative feedback on that.
12:34I don't know if it's because... That it wasn't in English? Well, just a video podcast portion of it but we had an interpreter there. I don't know if these people were... I don't know how to take it. I got some phone calls. What? Just people crying like, yo, speak English, it's fucking America? some dumb shit like that? No, I mean, it was like, I don't know, it was confusing phone calls about, they said they didn't like it at first, but they ended up saying they did, and so I didn't know how to feel about that. You know, like, I don't know. How about not giving a fuck? Yeah. How about that feeling?
13:06Okay. How about taking it in and giving it thought, and if it happens seven or eight more times, maybe adjusting, or maybe using AI to translate into every language. But I think the first piece of advice is, how about not giving a fuck? Next time you can do it in English. Next time you can do it in Korean. I don't fucking know. Okay. Like, what are they saying? They're going to beat you up or they're not going to give you money? No, sir, I think it's more of just, maybe it's not something that they're into. but it's the first time we've ever done. Bro, 99 % of people aren't into anything. Meaning like the biggest companies in the world don't have all 8 billion people giving a shit about.
13:54Did you feel good about it? Yeah, I loved it. So do it again. Okay. So I guess the next question would be how can I, because right now the local chamber of commerce has kind of moved their date to the same date that we're doing our meeting. So a lot of our members had gone, So change your date. Okay. How can I go about... What are you romantic about the date for? You mean the second Tuesday of every month? No, I'm not. Great. How can I... If you're the second Tuesday of every month and somebody bigger or somebody that also has attention that fucks you up does it, you're allowed to make it the third Thursday of every month.
14:34Okay. How do I go about reaching a younger demographic? Like maybe... TikToks. Okay. those 25 to 30 years you read the fucking book three times I did the fuck are you asking me that for I'm sorry I just I'm kidding I'm fucking with you bro I love you listen to me put your fucking two index fingers directly in your ear and go fucking execute okay got it yes sir have the best day Eric how are you where are you from hi how are you Thank you. I'm in Orlando, Florida. Amazing. Yeah. So I'm a devout follower. I listen to all your content. Thank you. And I've been posting content online. So I'm an accountant.
15:25I used to work in corporate America, the chief financial officer of a$50 million company. I left corporate America, have my own accounting practice. Congrats. And thank you. I have a six month old buying a house and I want to start crushing more online. Okay. So I've been taking your advice, posting content. A couple of my videos took off, but they're comedy sketches. Okay. I got like a million impressions on LinkedIn this week, or actually like two million, but I'm not getting to my target audience. Well, that's because that's, are you making content that would hit your target audience? so it's corporate america humor talking about brother are you making content that has your information on it as well like there's a part for you to put p in the copy of your comedy skit you could put ps this is a comedy skit but i'm actually a former fortune 500 cfo with my own practice if you have any interest in working with me here's my email should i push the sales part on all the videos.
16:30You're allowed to do both. You're allowed to do both, right? I called out the guy on TikTok that said, hey, Gary V, why are you shilling mugs? You're always selling something. In fact, as you know, because you're a devout follower, 99 % of my content, 99.5 % of my content has no selling in it. But if I'm in a live shopping platform like I am right now, I'm going to put that up. And I think people should buy this mug instead of a crappier other mug. That's just what I believe. Because V friends is the next Pokemon. At least that's what my mom says. So you have to understand, like there's, you're allowed.
16:58Here's the funny thing about selling. You're allowed to sell, it's fucking America. On the other side, people are allowed to not buy. I never expect anybody to buy, but I'm always happy when they do. Does that make sense? Yeah. So of course it's okay to sell. And some content, like I just told you, you could have the content and the selling. Other content, you could just have the selling. You could literally make a video that might not get a million views, but it might get a hundred views, where you're like, hey, this is what I do. I'd like to do business with you. but the good news, you get 100 views of that and you get three customers, that might be better than getting a million views of comedy with no customers.
17:35Yeah. Both are allowed. The answer to your question is and, and, and, and, and, and. You're allowed to do comedy and you're allowed to have a very boring accounting video. You're allowed to make more content. This is fucking the best part of social, it's free. okay so my roadblock i've had was how do i make accounting not boring and you're saying you can't make accounting not boring it's fucking boring yeah but that's okay like like sometimes i'm very serious sometimes i'm silly sometimes i'm ridiculous sometimes i'm um stoic like you're just allowed to like make accounting interesting. They may make you laugh like but then you can come back on the next one and go very detailed and go into a very big nuance of what the new administration did with this tax deal.
18:29Don't try to make accounting cool. Just make all of it and let the chips fall. That's what I was doing. I was trying to make topics easy to understand and I felt like I was doing But that's okay too. Do both. I'm telling you that's okay too because you might have a viral video get 17 million and you put the ps in there and you did get six clients what you're missing out on which everyone gets fucked up on is the game is about and not or and boring content entertaining content left field content new tax yes yes yes and and and every platform tiktok linkedin instagram this is a fucking gold rush of opportunity these platforms are free.
19:13Yeah, LinkedIn video has been going crazy. It's really a great opportunity and I appreciate you sharing. More. All right, who do we have on the show? Hi, how you doing? My name's Austin. Austin, great to see you, brother. Where are you from? I'm from Utah. Good morning, by the way. Love it, man. Pleasure. Good morning. Nice and early for you. Yeah, well, I'll keep it super quick with you. So, I'm 23. Long story short, I got an entrepreneurship about two years ago. I ran in a pretty high level business, but it went bankrupt. And now I'm kind of just stuck in that phase of like innovating - So wait, you ran a high level business, but it went bankrupt.
19:47Did you learn from the missteps? Yes, I had business partners. I was young and experienced and I failed a lot, but I'm carrying that as motivation into my next - It's great. I mean, given that you're this young and you've already learned those lessons, it's a real fucking, back to the dude who's like, how do I stop sucking in life? Some people with a bankruptcy decide that they suck, you have decided it's a learning experience. I was young. Let me take that L. I learned. I'm still young as shit. Let me build from here. And I'm fucking proud of you for that, brother. Thank you. I appreciate it.
20:19And the big part for me right now is I've kind of been in this gray area for the past year and a half, traveled the whole nation trying to find my answers on what's next. And I think I finally have the really good idea I want, but I'm not financially heavy. and I'm kind of lost on like, where do I go for the capital? And like, what's the best way to find these business partners that I can actually trust? I mean, the capital high net worth individuals is always a great place to go. And so it's like literally like Googling or chat between like thousand richest people in Utah and then sending respectful messages to them on LinkedIn.
20:55And all you need to do is go one of 180 or 250 or seven. People always say like, what do I do? I'm like, reach out to people. Then they're like, well, I have. I'm like, well, how many? And they're like, seven. I'm like, no, no, 7 ,000. Like if you want to live a 1 % life, like you want to live a 1 % life, right? You want to have your own business and be successful. That's a 1 % life. If you're only willing to take seven no's via email, then you don't have the stomach for a 1 % life. If you're willing to sit down and eat shit for the entire month of January, because for 14 hours a day, you're emailing every fucking person that you could possibly find that has money anywhere in the world, because you're doing the research and you're sending the emails and you're connecting on LinkedIn and you're just being respectful and doing it the right way and not too spammy and then following back up a month later so you're not desperate, like looking for one person to say yes to start the process, well then now you're living a 1 % life.
21:46Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. It does. You know, you're not going to know if they're trustworthy. The good news is you're not looking for partners, you're looking for investors. So, does that make sense? Yeah, no, it doesn't. And with my first company, I brought in business partners because I wanted to make sure. Real quick, real quick. Like RetroBoom89 says, why does it have to be on LinkedIn? It doesn't, but LinkedIn is such a professional place that a lot of high net worth individuals are going to respond better to a LinkedIn message than they are on email where they get a lot of spam or a fucking DM on Instagram.
22:18Like, you know, you got to keep those things in mind. And then last question for you. I know a lot of people want to come up. No worries. My biggest challenge that I have been facing though is not getting burned out after failure because, you know, failure is inevitable in the part of entrepreneurship. Bro, you're not burned out. I can just tell by your energy. Don't let the fucking world sell you on this burnt out shit. Burnt out is different than took a gut punch getting back up slowly. This is the problem with everyone in today's society pushing on the kids. You're burnt out. You're depressed.
22:54We used to call this 20 years ago sluggish or a fucked up day. you know that video that's viral that like shows the guy walking into the fucking like the side of the door and it's like if you were born in the 70s you're like you don't even and the 80s you're like and the 90s like and then like there's a there's I hate that because I believe in fucking Gen Z and Gen Alpha the most but what they have and I feel bad for them they've bought into this bullshit bro you're not burnt out you're fucking on five you're fucking it's fucking 7.33 in the morning in Utah and you're on the fucking Tea with Gary Vee show fucking talking about building your future.
23:32You're a fucking go-getter and ambitious and a winner, but this fucking society has fucking sold you on, how do I deal with burnt out? It's not burnt out. You fucking took a micro L, and you're fucking, like, I don't know, you got punched in the face, you chipped the tooth, you got a little blood, you're gonna stop bleeding, you're gonna fix your tooth, and you're gonna go back out there. You understand? Of course you're fired up because a fucking grown ass man is telling you in your face, stop listening to the fucking bullshit of society trying to tell you you're burnt out. You're not fucking burnt out.
24:11Bro, you think you're burnt out? I don't think I am, but I don't want to be delusional. That, that. You're not delusional. Stop listening to fucking losers trying to make you lose. I've never told anybody you're burnt out. You know what tells people they're burnt out? Philosophical fuckers who can't do shit. You know what misery loves company is? Yeah. That's what the fuck is going on. So I just got to block them out. Just do me. Block out everybody. Block out people like me too. Block me the fuck out who's gassing you up. Block out every fucking person on earth. Perfect. You understand? I do.
24:52Listen to everybody, but hear no one. Right? because you gotta stay humble, you gotta check yourself, you don't wanna become delusional, but don't let everybody, or anybody, excuse me, fucking dictate your soul.
25:08Burnt out. It's fucking 7.33 in the morning in Utah. This man is showered with a fucking coat and hat on, fucking asking business questions on fucking live stream on an app that he probably had to download for the first time. Bro, you're a winner.
25:27I guess my goal is to win even more, you know? Good, but let me tell you how to win even more. Fall in love with trying to win versus winning. Okay, that's a good perspective. You understand? Yeah. Fall in love with the fact that you're trying and you're hungry and you're competing and you're in the fucking arena not sitting around saying, you're burnt out, everyone. You're in the fucking arena, bro. I'm pumped up now. I'm ready to work. I feel like you got me out of the hole. Yeah, dude. It's because you weren't even in the hole. This is the fucking problem with society right now. Trying to tell everybody it's all bad.
26:07It's all fucking good. Yeah. Yeah, it's perspective. It really is. Bro, life is only perspective. There is nothing besides your perspective. There is nothing else. There's nothing else. It's all fake. I'll tell you why. Is$150 ,000 a year a lot of money or a little money? Perspective. Perspective. Yeah. Is having a boyfriend or girlfriend right now a good thing or a bad thing? Perspective. You saw, I don't know, were you watching earlier when Sasha was on, that young lady? She was fucking building, then she watched the Social Dilemma documentary scared the fuck out of her. Like, what did that accomplish?
26:46Stop letting fear have any power over you.
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26:56I'm hyped up now. I'm, you've given me all the answers that I've needed. I'm gonna let somebody else get up here. Love you, bro. Good luck, happy holidays, love you. Right, guys? Gals, like, fuck. All right, Kristoff. Hey, hey, oh. Hey, brother, what are you laying in bed? Yeah, basically. That's good, bro. What are you doing, Kristoff? Are you doing here for us brother? I Get it bro turn it around and tuck it in Let's go Okay, all right good. What's up Christophe? Okay, hey, how are you? Hey brother? I'm well you? Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I'm a little bit stressed. Okay, but doesn't matter. Okay, basically I have a question to you because I'm from Poland but I created this motorbike rental app you know and we started in Indonesia basically it works like uber Airbnb we connect the motorbike owners with the clients like tourists you know very nice and everything is everything is done in the app so we can book rent a motorbike like in like you know on the spot I understand now in this moment you know yeah so basically I have a question like how to market like to tourists basically in Indonesia because I have like a problem.
28:18In Indonesia? Yeah. For people that are going to Indonesia? Yeah, basically who are already. How much organic social media content are you making on TikTok and Instagram for the business? A lot, but only in Indonesian language. Because like I - Yep, I understand. You've got to make - Yeah, because - Go ahead. I know where you're going. Yeah. Yeah, because I thought that we'll have problem like with getting the partners to the app, you know, to getting the motorbikes. No, no, that's good. I'm glad that you did the Indonesia thing, but just like I told the gentleman earlier, it's an and, not an or.
28:55You've got to do it in Indonesia, but you've also got to do it in English and in Spanish, and you've got to do it all over. The number one opportunity for startups to get customers by a country mile right now, Christoph, is organic social media. It's not even close. Okay. So the content you're making, you just have to make more. And with AI and with being in Indonesia and Poland, there's very good costs on labor and talent. You've got to make a bigger commitment to that because that's how you build brand and customers. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, like I thought I can reach them with ads. But basically when I'm targeting different languages within a country, I basically also reach languages that are native to this country.
29:41Like, you know. I understand. But instead of running ads with creative that you're not sure is going to convert, if you made organic creative and see if it actually indexes well through the algorithm and then turn those videos into ads, you'll convert much better. The biggest issue with ads is people focus on the media when the reality is the variable of your success will not just be who you target, it will be what the message and the creative is. And now that organic social is a place where you get basically creative testing for free, you need to go all in on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, true.
30:21I'm telling you, now everybody understands that social media ads are good. Now everybody understands that Google ads are good. But 20 years ago when I was yelling about Google ads or 25 years ago, people made fun of me. And 15 years ago when I said social media ads were good, people made fun of me and now when I'm telling everybody as a sophisticated startup like you have you need to get serious about organic social creative people are laughing because they don't think it's scalable they don't think it's converting as well they don't understand that it's building brand while testing creative that you can then use for performance yeah yeah you know I want to start it like you know to creating content in English you have to do that who the fuck you think is going to Indonesia rich fucking 20 year old kids Yes, yeah.
31:05Yeah, you're right. I just thought it would be much easier to get customers only using No, I understand. And good news. Good news. Because I have a guy from Indonesia who's creating content in Indonesia, but I'm doing like, you know, using the chat GPT. I'm creating like, you know, all the scripts for him and recording him. I get it. You need more. but I'm like a one man show I'm doing like everything I get it but you want to build a big business I was a one man show for most of my life too you got it just be patient a little patience and a little execution yes yes yes this is the thing you know patience of course I get it I'm doing it with my friend and she's less patient that's right by the way whoever is the most patient wins the race.
31:57The tortoise beat the hare, brother. The tortoise, the fucking turtle beat the rabbit. Why do you think that story resonates and is such a legendary story? The fucking rabbit won. The radical rabbit rips beat the tolerant tortoise. Oh, excuse me, the reverse, thank you. The self-aware hare lost. The tolerant, oh, I like the tolerance one. Anyway, brother, that's it. Christoph, happy holidays. Who's up now? Hi! Mia! Hi Mia! Where are you from? I am from Atlanta. Amazing. Basically, I'm doing it by myself. I did listen to your videos forever ago and so I decided I was just going to start a brand, talk on social media.
32:41It took off. I have coined the term vegan silk on YouTube. Not YouTube, Jesus. On Google. So I'm number one for that. That's my term. That's my brand. And I have silk, real silk hoodies. And it's just all about real silk, like quality silk, whether it be vegan or real, right? Because if you search it on the internet, you end up with satin. That's all well and good. I've been doing it by myself now for two years. And now I'm pregnant. And it's hard to put out - Congratulations. With everything. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The fuck are we talking about business when you have this incredible moment in your life?
33:17Congratulations. I'm going to drop my other baby while I'm making it. Baby, baby, baby, you're not dropping your other baby. Your baby business is chilling while you're baking the greatest thing that ever happened to your life. I promise you, your business will be there. This is, everybody's scared, darling. Listen to me, Mia. Everyone, you like that, Dust? Okay, thank you, Dustin. Damn, Dustin gave me, Dustin doesn't do that. Dustin liked, maybe it's because he's eating the bagel. Dustin's very excited about this bagel. Mia, listen to me. Your business is not going anywhere. This is what everybody's scared of.
33:48they're like damn the baby's gonna come and I'm gonna be my eye off the other business and when I come back to it it's dead. If you were good enough to get it to this point you're gonna be good enough to do it again. You're stressing. You're being scared. Instead of focusing on the real shit which is you have a fucking miracle. A human is growing inside of you right now. Mia a fucking human being is growing inside of you. It's cool. No it's better than cool. It is the fucking actual best. There is nothing on earth. There's no entrepreneur better than mother. Mother number one, entrepreneur number two.
34:28You're about to be that. And you're worried about some dumb ass silk fucking robes? Get the fuck out of here. But like, I still have another person to take care of. So this is like, this is our whole thing, which we do. My other little person helps me with the business now. I have making a new one. And I'm proud of you. I feel like it's time to to grow the business. So it's not just me. And I believe in organic because at this point I tried. I tried to get somebody to help with the shipping. I shouldn't have outsourced. I tried to get somebody to help with the marketing. My organic performs 10 ,000 times better than any marketing.
35:04I just talked to somebody who said SEO is best because I since I'm on page two of a lot of things, it's better to be on page one. And that's where I need to focus. But I genuinely just don't know who to hire. Listen to me Make content SEO is good Page one is better than page two But right now What you have is you Sometimes you have money Sometimes you have people Sometimes you have you Right now you have you Right Make fucking content Okay More Okay so if that's the case Then if I do expand It should be somebody else To assist me with making content So I can just stay focused On what? On On the business Cause like I said It's I have a ton of content Listen to me.
35:46Listen to me. What if you thought about this being successful in a 30-year window instead of a 30-week window? What if I said to you, think about this in 30 years of slowly, day by day, brick by brick, it getting better versus you're going to fucking crush it and sell the business and buy an island. Mia, you do know that this perspective is what fucks up everybody. you don't understand how remarkable what you've already pulled off you're already further along than most you got something but if you just listen you're in a chapter in your life give yourself some grace girl okay give yourself some grace there's different there's different seasons in life how old are you 35 you're a baby okay you are I was 34 until I left my dad's liquor store all this Gary V shit didn't even start until I was 35 start
36:57you got time what you need to focus on is stay healthy so this baby comes out right that's what you should be thinking about enjoy the fucking holidays listen you know I love a good hustle and build your shit it's just like just don't let anything get too crazy like fucking get it all settled like it's not going anywhere well so that's the thing that I think that I was thinking about the most like because I'm doing so much I already have like thousands of customers so my thing is I don't want like they get kind of left when I have bad weeks or tired weeks they get left they're not left I promise you your customers biggest thing in their life is not your fucking silk fucking shit humility but no no no I'm saying but a lot of people have allergy issues.
37:44That's why. Listen, I'm beautiful. By the way, that's beautiful and I'm, I fuck with that. I love that you've got that element, but I promise you, if you have a bad week, your customers are going to be okay. It's unlikely they even thought about you. Well, they email. Listen, I get it, but not all fucking 15 ,000 of them or 4 ,000 or 2 ,000. Like I'm telling you, you're just putting too much pressure on your chest. I can smell it from the screen. If it's slow, that's okay. Yeah, because what about when, you know, again, I don't know how this pregnancy's been for you, but like some days you're not feeling well or some days you're tired.
38:18No, like all three months I've been sleeping. Like if I sit down, I fall asleep. Yeah, baby. Good. Slow. Okay. If you went to sleep between now and January 1st, 2026 and then hit the ground running and listen to me. if you went to sleep right now closed your eyes and went and slept and you woke up and it's January 1st 2026 and you're like yo what the fuck and the business was slow and what the fuck you need to resuscitate it you've got the fire in your belly to have that shit proper by March so what the fuck are we talking about? Yeah I will So what are we talking about? Okay We're talking about what everybody's struggling with which is for some reason we all just decided to beat ourselves up instead of loving ourselves for what we are doing.
39:05Baby, you're fucking going harder as a pregnant woman at 35 than 90 % of 23-year-old dudes complaining about dumb shit. The fuck are we talking about? I want to be a good mom? I don't know. Well, if you want to be a good mom, then you should ask that question, not how to fucking do SEO. I know, but my kid, she loves this whole thing. Of course she does. You're showing her. by the way by the way by the way if I just drop it I'm not no you're not dropping you've already shown her why do you think she loves it she looks up to you and she sees you doing it you are winning okay baby you're just beating yourself up for no fucking reason okay you need to give yourself grace people need to fucking I'm doing this for you and every all 5 ,000 people that are watching right now we need to love ourselves more
40:03I got it I know I know you got it because you're already doing it you just decided to look at the half glass full versus the half glass empty you're looking at empty instead of full not really I just didn't want to let like I feel like since I started the problem because of my child and I'm helping other people who have asthmatic children that can stop coughing at night I can't let anybody down. I don't want to let down my baby. I don't want to let down a new person. And I don't want to let down these moms and people who are. Let me tell you the best way. Let me give you the fastest path to letting everybody down.
40:40Putting so much pressure on yourself to not letting anybody down that you burn out and you do nothing. That's where I'm at right now. No shit.
40:53Okay. Well, thank you. As someone who doesn't want to let anybody down either, I focus on me being good and grounded first. How the fuck am I going to help everybody if I'm not good? Yeah. How do I do that? By saying I'm just a human and I'm just trying. I'm flawed. I got problems. I got mistakes. I'm just a human, but I'm trying out here. Okay. Okay. Cool things. Thank you. You're welcome. All right, we got five minutes. Let's get one more in here. we're going to be doing a lot of tea with Gary Vee next year who's enjoying this show put enjoy let me know keep me motivated to do it next year holy shit Lucas what is good I cannot believe this shit Gary Vee where are you brother before I say anything I'm so glad you brought back the tea with Gary Vee I've been following you for years I loved this show before thank you brother where you at you at school you just walk out of school or something no man I was in bed I've only got three hours of sleep but I saw you doing this show and I saw I was going to be on.
41:56So I had to walk out of the house. Let's go brother. Where are you, where are you at? Where are you, where are you living? Yeah, man, that's a great question. So I'm actually based in Boston, but I'm in Dallas. I'm knocking doors right now. You're going to love it. Door to door sales with an alarm company. But I honestly, I found a passion in marketing and content creation. I started posting. I had some videos go viral and I really just want to transition out of sales into marketing, get into a marketing agency. make unlimited content and learn the algorithms. Did you read Day Trading Attention yet?
42:29Yep. I listened to the audio a bit. Brother, just do that. In the same grind that you have in door-to-door knocking, in between doors while you're walking down the street, make content, keep learning the algorithms, get better at TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, learn the algorithms, learn culture, learn best practice, thumbnails, first three seconds of a video, learn the fucking game, pound it, people will reach out to you. We're literally at VaynerMedia, and I think we're the top marketing agency in the world right now, we're literally DMing people that we see doing good content trying to hire them.
43:00It's real life. Okay, so then I got a question for you. With VaynerMedia, I wanted to be there for years. Obviously, you know, it's a big company. How can I provide value to a company as big as that and kind of show my worth and get in there? Email me. Lucas, do me a favor. Email Sid. Sid, what's your email? S-A-S-T-A-L. Jesus. Email Gary at V... email gary at vfriends.com Lucas put it's Lucas from the show tell me everything you know about marketing let me see if we have a residence program let me see if I can get you into it Gary thank you so much I really appreciate it man I love you I love you I love you back brother happy holidays alright Lucas join me for Tea with Gary V all of next year I'm bringing back the show heavy I'm gonna be talking about a lot with live shopping all that you guys ready?
43:45run em I'll see you in a little bit if this podcast has ever meant anything to you please go to Spotify or Apple right now and leave a review. By the way, even if you give me a one star review because you think it's shit, I respect it, but just leave a review, an actual review. Four or five stars and the actual details of why. Yeah, that would mean something for me, so thanks.
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