In short
Overcoming fear by refusing to let insecurity control action; using self-esteem, resilience, intuition, and kindness as antidotes. The episode also covers how putting yourself out there (especially via TikTok) unlocks opportunities, and how to handle judgment and other people’s opinions without internalizing validation.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Dina Ayada (19, Belgium-born artist). Competed on Belgium’s Voice Kids (reached semi-finals). Built a sound with producer Chucky and manager Dro; a vlog freestyle hit ~1M views; later a birthday TikTok freestyle blew up, leading to LA work, label/producer outreach, and touring (recently with TJ).
- Joe Gatto (comedian/improv; former Impractical Jokers). Moved LA to chase filmmaking, worked at Nordstrom selling men’s pants at The Grove/Rail, then returned to New York; stand-up and writing movies; playing The Beacon Jan 20.
- Nick Cassano (social creator/comedian). Started TikTok in 2020 while training clients in a gym; first video reached ~2M views; grew via humor and sports/entrepreneurial mindset.
Key claims + notable examples
- Fear is “fake” and loses power once you decide “I’m not afraid of you.”
- Putting yourself out there is framed as binary: if you’re good, nothing bad can happen; fear of opinions is often insecurity.
- Use feedback from confidants/strangers as information, not validation; “dinner table” idea: only take advice from people who earn a seat.
- Examples: Dina’s birthday TikTok leading to LA trips and dropping law school; Nick’s first 15-second gym TikTok going viral; Joe’s career pivot from improv to sales to comedy/film work.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUnderstanding Fear's Control
0:00 to 0:18
Fear can dominate our lives, but it is ultimately a construct we can overcome.
“Like fear has so much control, but it's the same feeling as happiness.”
Concept of the Show and New Voices
0:45 to 3:28
Gary shares the purpose of the podcast and introduces new guests, encouraging diverse voices.
“I was 10 minutes from my house, 37 miles away.”
Dina's Musical Journey
3:29 to 7:16
Dina Ayada shares her journey as a young artist, from 'The Voice' to finding her sound.
“So then we sat together and we, we decided to just make songs together, have fun.”
Joe's Comedy Career
7:17 to 10:17
Joe, a former comedian, discusses his career path from improv to stand-up and his current projects.
“And then in the beginning, I told every label, I want to do a support act at the end of the year.”
Joe's Comedy Career
10:18 to 12:36
Joe, a former comedian, discusses his career path from improv to stand-up and his current projects.
“Joe, it's hard to interrupt But there's 800 people now on Twitch.”
The Importance of Sharing
13:08 to 14:00
The group discusses the significance of sharing content and supporting each other in their endeavors.
Overcoming Self-Doubt in Pursuing Dreams
14:00 to 15:20
Learn how to confront self-doubt when friends encourage you to pursue your passions.
“You're the smartest and best one in our crew.”
The Importance of Putting Yourself Out There
15:20 to 16:50
Discover the value of sharing your talents and the risks of not doing so.
“You didn't have alerts on, so you didn't know?”
Navigating Opinions and Self-Validation
16:50 to 18:50
Understand how to differentiate between helpful feedback and harmful opinions.
“enough, fucking enough all you fucking people out there that are just willing to lean into cynicism and negativity and darkness, I promise you, it's just a pure reflection of what's in your heart.”
The Dinner Table Analogy
18:50 to 20:30
Learn the concept of evaluating opinions based on who you allow at your dinner table.
“I'm not sitting here saying, I hate when people say, like I'm trying to be a little bit better about like other people's opinions don't matter.”
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Judgment and Vulnerability
20:30 to 22:20
Explore the relationship between judgment of others and susceptibility to being judged.
“You spend all day going through the feed and judging people too.”
Human Connection vs. Animal Affection
22:20 to 24:20
Discuss how society often values animal affection over human connections and the implications of this.
“That listen this week Start liking you more Start listening to music Watch your videos Go to your show Like if you're not leaving Positive deposits What the fuck are you doing?”
Trust and First Impressions
24:20 to 26:20
Understand how trust affects initial interactions with new people and the importance of energy.
“But I think it's important to really have that bond with animals too.”
Compassionate Outlook on Others
26:20 to 28:00
Learn the significance of compassion towards others and how it impacts your interactions.
“I have to worry about my kid, my daughter, my son.”
V Friends Discussion
28:00 to 29:20
The hosts discuss their V Friends cards and personal connections to the characters.
“By the way, I'm going through it too, brother.”
Compassion and Personal Growth
29:20 to 31:30
Gary talks about compassion, personal experiences, and the importance of understanding others' struggles.
“So I'm trying to make the whole scene comfortable.”
Life's Real Challenges
31:30 to 36:20
The conversation shifts to the realities of life challenges and the importance of gratitude.
“I'm so grateful that that hasn't happened to my inner circle yet.”
Defining Success
36:20 to 39:34
Discussion on redefining success and the impact of societal expectations on personal fulfillment.
“If I wanted Madden, it was go watch each Windows$5 of the card.”
Dreams and Intuition
39:34 to 42:00
The hosts share dreams, aspirations, and the significance of following intuition.
“whereas now all these other voices, to your point, there's unlimited garbage but if you try to find the gold, there's more gold out there than there ever was.”
The Power of Intuition
42:00 to 43:16
Learn how intuition can guide decision-making over overthinking.
“Is it a partner to your stomach or does it actually overrule your stomach?”
The Journey to Success
43:16 to 44:25
Discover the concept of '18 years to overnight success' and the unseen efforts behind achievements.
“little buildings, you know, so you gotta, you gotta really take your time with that too, which is good.”
Confronting Fear
44:25 to 45:44
Understand how fear can control us and the importance of facing it head-on.
“eat the meatballs forever 1620 let's go with you Nicky because you're so early in your career what's your biggest takeaway so far from your career will Joe Gatto will be at VCon next year.”
Fear is Fake
45:44 to 47:16
Explore the idea that fear is often an illusion created by our minds.
“you have to embrace every emotion, but you can't be every emotion.”
The Value of Live Streaming
50:54 to 52:57
Find out why live streaming is a significant opportunity for engagement.
“HBCU grad said, Gary, tell me more about becoming a full-time streamer.”
Embracing Your Uniqueness
52:57 to 54:14
Learn to disregard negativity and embrace your authentic self on social media.
“Like, can we just, can we make you like this one?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Fear is afraid of you too. Interesting. Break that down. Like fear has so much control, but it's the same feeling as happiness. Like nobody runs from happiness. Fear is deathly afraid of the day where you turn around and be like, I'm not fucking afraid of you. It's funny you say that. And then it loses all power. Fear is fake. Fear hangs out with fucking Santa Claus. This is the Gary Vee Audio Experience. Vayner Nation, how are you? Welcome to another episode of Podcasts with Friends. This episode is actually podcasts with former friends because Joe is literally fucking 36 minutes late. The whole show.
0:35Give or take. I have a hard stop at 1130. So I want to apologize for you two youngsters. Joe has ruined your exposure. I was a fan of the show. Joe, what happened? The Long Island Expressway. And don't pretend like you don't know. There was an accident. I will say there was. I was 10 minutes from my house, 37 miles away. I mean, come on. I did what I could. Listen, you grew up in this area of your whole life? I did. You should have been here nine in the morning. You're right. Let's go on the show. Ladies first, let's introduce ourselves to the Vayner Nation. The concept of this show is incredibly simple.
1:07There are individuals in the world that, me and my team spend an ungodly amount of time watching human beings move in society. Tyler Walsh and Boyd Music, Tyler Schmidt and Zach and overall culture. I play a lot of role in it. And we just kind of decided, I wanted to do new content this year in 2024. And the thing that most excited me was getting people to introduce each other and get to know each other that may not know each other, admire each other from afar. But more importantly, A, get my audience to meet different voices, different people to follow their journeys on. Everyone's in different parts of their journey.
1:44And executionally wise, I really wanted to finally start streaming. It's something I've been watching for a decade and I've just never found my way in because I'm so busy. That's why vlogging worked. You know, DRock could follow me in my day-to-day. But this whole concept of now twitching, especially in my office, we tried it last week, where like after the show, I was on mute and just screaming in the back. And people loved it. I unmuted a couple times and I loved it. And so huge shout out to the Twitch army, all of you that are tuned in right now. Barry Gaynorchuk, that's a great name, big name for me in high school.
2:19I'll never forget the day my friends figured out if they reverse my two letters that they could really have some fun with me. So I see Barry Gaynorchuk's in the building. First time chat for J-Boy, for Clay Furnow. Let me know how you got here. I just tweeted it. I just sent it to my text. Or you're an OG. I want all 300 of you to right now reply. OG, text, or Twitter. Let me know how you got here. But the purpose of the show is for the audience to get to know you and for us to talk about shit that's popping in society. We're sitting on our chests or our minds. We will start Ladies First. Why don't you tell the Vayner Nation who you are, what you do?
2:52Yes, how far do you want me to go, though? It is your space. Okay, so my name is Dina Ayada. I'm 19 years old. I'm a rockin'. I was born and raised in Belgium. And I've always been into music. I'm an artist, so I was an artist since a little kid. My mom and my dad knew, but it didn't really take me serious. So I participated with the Voice Kids in Belgium. I was 15, super young, still in school. Um, and then that whole experience made me realize that maybe being an artist is what I want to do when I grow up. So, um, after that, my brother, he used to make beats. So then we sat together and we, we decided to just make songs together, have fun.
3:37And, um, and then I was 16. I met my producer Chucky, uh, and my manager Dro. we recorded a vlog on Chucky's channel, a 16 year old girl freestyling on my beat, and I had like one million views in a couple of weeks. Yeah, a couple of months, so I was like wow. It's starting to happen. Yeah, I saw like. What happened on The Voice? Did you do well on the show? Yeah, it was very nice. I got to the half, to the semi-finals, yeah. So you got a lot of exposure from that? Yes, a lot, it was nice being on stage, my first time being on stage. I was very nervous, very young, but it taught me a lot. What a stage to be on for your first one.
4:19Yeah, exactly. And so then after that YouTube video popped off, what happened next? After that, I was like, well, I want to sit down with my producer and manager. We're a team, so I want to find my own sound, something that sounds like Dina Ayata and not other artists. So it took us like three years. We was locked in. Yeah, and we really took it serious. and then I decided to post a TikTok in December on my birthday and it was a TikTok of me freestyling on a random beat because I don't listen to beats before I hop on a beat. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I could never do that. I really resonate with that.
4:57If I had any musical talent, that would be more my style. I'm so much more improv in nature. It just comes so natural to me as a human. It's how my speaking, I literally sometimes don't even know who I'm speaking to in like 4 ,000 people events until I get to the location and meet the organizer and I'm like, okay, tell me about the audience. I'm more comfortable. Yeah, but if I throw a beat on right now, you're telling me. No, I have no musical talent. If I had musical talent, I'd be the biggest rapper in the world. I believe that. Not believe that. Not really do. I'm being dead serious. I have so much real shit to say.
5:34Oh, absolutely. I just have no fucking musical talent. You already have a rapper name. Everyone's always really nice You can do it I'm like yeah Barry Gaynor And so where are we at At the journey now So I was 17 at that moment No I was turning 17 on my birthday And I posted a TikTok Didn't overthink it I was like man just let it flow So then it took me a couple of days And in the meantime So I was telling my manager Bro I want to go to LA Let's go to LA I know I'm in school But we can go after my exams so um so basically i had i was in law school at the beginning of the year uh and then we booked our flights booked everything we was ready and then after we booked our flights and everything my tiktok starts going crazy it blew up and i was like maybe this is god's plan yeah so after my exams we went to la and we were supposed to stay there for one month but we um extended the trip So we stayed two months and a lot of producers, labels, artists, they start reaching out to me.
6:38So we was really just working over there, like locked in. And I knew like maybe when I go back to Belgium, I might want to drop out of law school because this music might be for me. And when I got back to Belgium, I was I was talking to my parents. I was like, yeah, I think this might be the right move for me to make right now. Like I believe in it. So I I dropped out and I did it online. I remember my manager calling me five minutes later. He was like, Dina, somebody's flying us out to New York next week. I was like, this is God's plan. So it's been an amazing journey. After that, I just continued posting on TikToks.
7:14Everything blew up. A lot of people reaching out. And then in the beginning, I told every label, I want to do a support act at the end of the year. And I just got off tour with TJ. That's amazing. Congrats. That's amazing. That's awesome. So proud of you. Thank you. Joe? That's me. I'm a freestyle rapper. My name is Joe. I kick the funky floor. I rock your ass from here to Idaho. Hey. Former Impractical Joker, comedian, improv. Started with improv when I was 19. Ran that to the ground. Got some improv experience here in New York. Moved to LA to chase a dream to be a filmmaker. Ended up working at Nordstrom selling men's pants.
7:55Moved back here in New York with the boys. performing. Just real quick, just for the kids, your big plan to become this movie mogul, go to LA. Pick it up, pack it up, go. The chapter in the book on that was you ended up just working at Nordstrom selling pants. Yep, selling pants. Were you good at selling pants? I was fantastic. I'm a hell of a salesman. I was selling pants to all the celebrities. I worked at The Grove in LA, which is all a hot spot. What makes you a pair of pants? I worked at The Rail, which was the menswear section. And this is when Von Dutch was big you'll remember that and uh so i was uh yeah i was rocking it out there and helping celebs and stuff and that was my claim to fame and then i just you know i loved sales i was always a salesman came back to new york and i was doing comedy on the side till we got the me and the guys got together to figure out what our tv show was we felt we tried a couple that failed miserably found jokers made that found that concept and did that for a decade then life gave me a couple options of different ways to go and decided to focus on family and figure it all out and now I've been doing stand up on my own and been doing torn out for two years writing movies actually working on something getting something started there which is great and uh kind of been performing some big rooms which is great I'm playing the beacon here in New York which is the one I haven't done so yeah the beacon in January which I'm sorry January 20th can people get tickets yeah they can yeah how did they find out um joegato official.com no matter where you live I'm on tour but yeah the January 20th is at the beacon which is now why official like because the other one was taken the real you know yeah the real it kind of goes like the real like the rule right like it's your name if you can get it if you can't get your name you get the real and if you can't get that you go with the official yeah yeah i even had to do underscore gato for my all my handles i'm an underscore guy i really feel like if you're an underscore person like shit's just not going you know you could probably find it's just a common name i mean you don't have a common name.
9:52I agree. But I fucked it up. Joe Dato in New York. I fucked it up. I added too silent ease to it. I'm supposed to be this branding expert and I completely fucked it up. Anyway, how are you enjoying stand-up right now? I love it. I love it. Is that your favorite place to be? To entertain is, to make people laugh. And now you can get in front of people and do it that way. But I enjoy writing. I enjoy all of it. I've always enjoyed all of it. I've been doing a bunch of different avenues now that the time is like, I've had the time now. Wrote a kid's book which is coming out next year. Joe, it's hard to interrupt But there's 800 people now on Twitch.
10:22Oh. Which is a real number. There you go. And I feel like you should say something to them. All right. Everyone watching on Twitch, we just wanted to get you all together and say, you know, be kind to each other. Oh. Amen. Be kind. Be kind to each other. Come on. That's it. That's it, man. That's it, man. You got to be kind because, you know, life sucks, suck harder, friends. Get out there and do what you got to do. Right. Amen. Just keep smiling and spread some joy. I love that. There you go. My brother. So my name is Nick Cassano. I go. I'm on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. The official Nick. It was actually the real Nick with an underscore at the end.
10:54But yeah, I started. No, really. What is your handle? Nicky Cass. Nicky.CASS. So I started. No, but wait. So funny story. So that's the same handle that I had in high school. So like what I was, my whole thing was like I was a big sports guy. I played baseball my whole life. And I didn't really think that this was ever in the cards. And then one day I was training clients in a gym. I thought I was going to open up a gym and do this whole thing. I was training clients out of my garage. I always had like the entrepreneurial spirit. anytime I wanted to like make some money my dad would tell me to go wash the cars or like I'd sell stuff on eBay so grew up like that but I was always like the class clown so like every sports team I was on I was always like bound to make you laugh and it just always felt so good but it came natural so I was never like yeah even the way you talk is like talent you know what's funny so I was so I was I believe that yeah for real because I would I used to play on this travel baseball team and I was the only kid from New York and every time I open my mouth.
11:48People just laugh. I love it. I didn't even fucking say anything. Yeah, yeah. But they were all from the South. I'd say like, alright, here we go, kid. They go, alright, here we go, kid. So it was the whole thing. I never, like I said, it just kind of came natural. So posted on TikTok. The first video blew up and the first one. The first one got 2 million views. Your first TikTok. My first TikTok got 2 million views. So I was working in a gym. What year was this? This was 2020. I was trying to tell you. It was right before the pandemic. Ready to soundtrack your summer? With Red Bull Summer All Day Play, you choose a playlist that fits your summer vibe the best.
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13:04Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. Boy, you know this. Right, you were talking. You definitely know this. I was trying to tell everybody. buddy but see like i got on because of you i didn't have like it wasn't part of like my buddies were just like because i would send the shit to my buddies yeah and they were like post it and i'm like i'm not you know i'm just gonna open up the gym by the way i'm back because i just want to give value to the audience yeah by the way 807 all of you share the shit out of this link right now in and this is where i'm going don't share it on social share this link right now to that thread we all have that thread we all have that WhatsApp or iMessage group text where like to your point everyone's their best version in their best friends text group 100 % I've got a Jets one and a Knicks one and a college one and a like a sports card one and like we all have them and I feel like for a lot the reason I'm jumping in right now I apologize for jumping in is I believe that there's 25 people listening right now for sure that are in a thread where their buddies are saying, you should do fantasy football full time.
14:11For sure. You're the smartest and best one in our crew. For sure. But they're like, nah, I'm not Matthew Berry. Or you're funny, which is obviously very common because humor is this foundation of group chats. But like humor or knowledge. Yep. Hey everybody, I hope you're enjoying the podcast right now. Make sure you follow the podcast. That's why I'm interrupting. Let's keep going on this show, but follow the podcast. It'll make my mom super happy. I'm telling you For the 25 out of the million That listen to this podcast Over the next three years In the long tail of consumption Please use this as a sign God's plan Back to your point As like You know what?
14:48Fuck it My friends have been telling me For two years I've secretly been thinking about it For two months Right, for sure Use this moment This dude's first TikTok The first one Wow The first fucking one And to be honest with you To that point too Like if I If I didn't put myself out there Did you send a link to a bunch of your friends I just fucking posted It was eight minutes. I'll never forget. It was a Wednesday night, 7.52 p.m. I'm working in the gym in my college, right? So I got six clients that I'm training. I worked in the athlete gym downstairs at the school that I was at. I was like, you know what?
15:14Like, no one's coming in. Fuck it. I'm just going to make a video. It's time. It's a quick 15-second video. Post it. Didn't think anything of it. The next morning, I woke up, and it was just going ballistic. But then I deleted the app. You didn't have alerts on, so you didn't know? Nothing. Gary, I woke up in the morning. What? And I'm going to do my routine in the morning, and my phone is like. What is your routine in the morning? Be very personal. I wake up. The first thing I do, I take my pills. I take a heart medication. Not a heart. I take a multivitamin. I take a probiotic. You confused a heart medication and a multivitamin.
15:45Yeah, no, I did. I didn't. There's no going back for it. No shit. Well, because my buddy takes a heart medication, and we were on the topic. But yeah, anyway, bottom line, I had not put myself out there. I wouldn't have realized that I did have a gift, that I did have talent, and that I actually love the sport of business. So the onset of like, just put yourself out there. I think like I was always kind of good with me no matter what. So like if I, if it just didn't work out, I'm like, I don't care. You had self-esteem. Correct. And so. It fucking matters. Oh, for sure. Honestly, 20 years into this journey, 15, and especially five to seven on the shit I'm talking about.
16:24Yeah. This is a binary. I can already feel at 48 that my 65 year old content is gonna be super weird because all I'm gonna wanna say is it is self esteem versus insecurity I don't wanna talk to you fucking people about anything else if you are insecure someone made you insecure go to get therapy, meditation change your routine, cut your friends out that make you feel that way enough, fucking enough all you fucking people out there that are just willing to lean into cynicism and negativity and darkness, I promise you, it's just a pure reflection of what's in your heart. Like this is a binary game.
17:06You were good. And this is why I'm jumping in again. Everyone who feels that they're good, that's listening, should only live putting themselves out there 24-7 because nothing bad can happen because you're good. 100%. There's no like fear of what are people gonna say if it doesn't do well. And like my friends would say, like I remember I went to lunch with this. I'm not really friends with him anymore. But he was like, you just don't ever feel like weird like putting stuff out. I'm like, no, man. That's him feeling weird. Like he couldn't do that. He would worry about what the girl that he thinks is cute thinks.
17:41He would worry about what his mom thinks. He would worry about what you would think about him. For sure. Like everything good in my life is based on the fact that I deeply care about people. But not their subjective opinions about me. Yes. I deeply care about people, even strangers or acquaintances that are becoming, strangers become acquaintances, acquaintances become friends, be friends. Boom, there it is. And most of all, back to Mike Boyd and Dustin's on his journey and you'll get there over time and then friends become fucking family. Amen. It's nobody's business. It's not your business what other people think of you.
18:16And that's something that's always stuck in my head. It's so real. It's just not your business. I just really want to have this combo while we're on it. Like, please explain to me what somebody saying your shit actually means. It means actually nothing. Like, actually. Yeah. No, it literally means absolutely nothing. Like, absolutely nothing. Well, I will say this, though. Please. Don't you think, like, I mean, we all have confidants, right? Of course. So if you are in the, because I feel like sometimes there is that fine line, not caring what people think versus caring what people think who care about you.
18:47And I think you have to look about where a place it comes from. Yeah. Because I've been in different places, too. of not being delusional. I'm not sitting here saying, I hate when people say, like I'm trying to be a little bit better about like other people's opinions don't matter. Actually, they do matter. Like I use people's feedback, confidants or strangers. By the way, for me, Neil Cutkamp and Salsa Chick Linda, like their opinion does matter to me. Like do they think I'm too abrasive? Do they think I'm awesome? Do they think like, I use it as feedback, but I can't internalize it as the thing that gives me validation for my life.
19:23By the way, the key for me is not accepting the accolades. The reason I think I do well with negativity is because I don't believe when people call me great. I'm just in the middle. I think one of the things, because in the world of what we do, everybody's a critic and what I've come to realize, and even though if you're securing yourself, I would say if everyone at this table is pretty secure in themselves, but there are times where you do question on the journey up. I'm sure when you were coming up and when you were doing your thing, I've developed this analogy called the dinner table. And so I get six chairs at my dinner table.
20:05I pick six people. When people come to me and they either say, you should do this, you should do that. I don't like this. I don't like that. I think to myself, are you sitting at my dinner table? If you're not, I'll take what you say. But again, I'm not going to internalize it so for me that's been super valuable in the whole because when you're when you're out there every day like people are getting perceptions of you and like who you are yeah and if you try and live up to that expectation what you think it is you're not you're not being you i you know i also think it starts at home of how like for me one of the reasons i also don't struggle that much with with judgment is i don't judge i've been paying attention to a lot of people that are struggling with it, I'm like, oh, right.
20:44You're in the business. You spend all day going through the feed and judging people too. You're judging people, which is why you're vulnerable to judgment. I don't know these people. I don't even know Dustin and Boyd like that. These are guys I really know, but I don't really know. I know some nuances, but I haven't been in their home 30, 50, 100 times. It's not like I've had like, I'm not having a monthly dinner for two hours with them. So if I don't know fucking people that are in my inner circle, I definitely don't know anybody. Like I don't think anybody really knows anybody besides themselves.
21:18Even your parents and your siblings. I think what I'm about to say will hit for all of us. You know that not a person on earth knows absolutely everything. Every one of us right now has some shit that we know about ourselves that we know not one person on earth. There is not one person on earth that fully knows you besides yourself. Yeah, sure. And so people are just sitting out here they're judging people 24 seven because it's become a fucking national pastime, which is why they're fucking susceptible to judgment. I'm on some, here's my judgment. Back to the joke you made, and I know that we connect on this because I see you see me and I'm very grateful for it.
21:59Here's my judgment. I just hope you're good. Like I struggle seeing anyone in my feed. You should see me at the airport. Like I just want to talk to everyone. I love people I hope you're good Life is amazing And at times hard I cheer for people It's the format of this show What do I want on this show? That these 800 people And these 80 ,000 people That listen this week Start liking you more Start listening to music Watch your videos Go to your show Like if you're not leaving Positive deposits What the fuck are you doing? Do you think though That's because of the things That you pull value to? Like as a human being Like the things that you find valuable Maybe like You mean like the New York Jets?
22:37Yeah like the Jets Not buying them, I mean like watching them Or ginger Like the New York, well I mean I find value in one place Kindness Right I find value in like the warmth of knowing That if I'm struggling for A period of time That if I can call Brandon Warnicke or my mom I'll be good in a second Because those are go to people for me Where I know if I call it's going to be a smile And I'm that for the world Yeah my mother used to say all the time and watch how people treat old people and animals. And that's how you know how their heart is. Well, that's like the whole thing. She was like, you know, that's how you kind of speak.
23:14Is your mom's life? No, she's passed. Yeah. Yeah, I feel the same way. Well, yeah, you feel more than I do. I, you know, I actually have a weird relationship with animals. I actually resent. That's a clip. I have a real statement here. It's a very, my team always tells me not to bring this up. They're always scared that it's going to be clipped out of context. I resent the way humans blindly treat animals and not each other it pisses me off I don't know what else to say I wish the world treated each other the way that the fuck just happened this google fucking screen I think you had double fingers or something I thought it was broken let me finish this thought It's incredibly important.
24:08You see a dog, you're just like, oh, pure love. We see humans and most people have fear when they see a stranger. I feel like I'm very scared of animals. Me too. Wow. Fuck those animals. No, no, no, no. But I think it's important to really have that bond with animals too. The same way you have a bond with people. You should treat everybody the same way. But people are comfortable with animals because they can't talk back. Yeah, exactly. They don't feel like they're judging them. Exactly. That's right. Humans are petrified of other humans. They deep, like let's play it. Let's go around the horn.
24:49What's your general vibe when you meet strangers or new people? Like how does it usually play out? Cautious, you know, trust is earned. How do you kind of roll when you meet people? Real talk, like real vulnerable, real talk like from all three of you. I fucking mean it because I want value out of this show. Like for y 'all, but also for the audience. What is your default when you meet people? Honestly, I feel like I don't trust very easily. I always, when I meet people, I always have good energy. Like I smile and I make sure that they, like my first impression is always very important, but I can't trust you right away.
25:24Like I gotta know you. I gotta talk to you, communicate with you to know what type of person you are. And from there on, like we gotta build up our relationship. But I think it's very important to also not think negatively about other people right away and don't judge. Right, so it's not that you feel negative, but it's a neutral with a caution because you want to make, because trust is important. Exactly, trust is important. How do you roll? I think it depends on my mind space. Okay, so whatever mood you're in reflects directly. Makes sense. By the way, that's everyone. Directly. And also, if I'm with my family, I'm super protective of my kids because everybody always, like strangers taking pictures of my kids is weird.
26:05Like I was, everybody always wants a picture as you know, it is. And I always, I get super, like I go into dad mode and sometimes I just have to explain, I'm being a father right now. Not a, uh, you know, I'm not famous. I'm with my kid right now. That kind of thing. So I do that. Most do some don't, but most do. And then again, that's not my problem. That's theirs. Like that's what I'm doing. I have to worry about my kid, my daughter, my son. And you know, like I'm going through it now. Like what you never think about is like most I've come to learn most kids that have someone who's a parent of notoriety, hate it.
26:33Hate. They don't think it's cool. They think it blows. They don't want people to like them because of you. They don't want people taking the time away from them and you in the limited time you have. But for the most part, I'm there to make it. I truly believe I live to make people laugh. I'm here to make people smile. So for the most part, I'm there unless I'm running for a plane and I'm late. But overall, I think that. And I think people get that from me too. But I'm just in a weird place because people, I've been on TV 10 years. They've seen me. They've seen me. I wasn't playing a character, so they feel like they know me.
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27:04Right, exactly. I come in a different way. But that, I think, really depends on where I'm at. Yeah, I think I try to control the controllables. So, for me, I'm not concerned about the person's reaction. I just know that I can control my own energy, and I'm huge on energy. So, I'll put as much good as I can out there, even on days. And I used to say all the time, during the pandemic, discipline is a thing that you do if you're trying to accomplish something. but I also think discipline is a thing that you do when you treat people. So even if I'm not feeling 100%, I try and give, even if I got to force it out and give it out, because I do feel like the universe is going to reciprocate that energy back.
27:43My godmother always used to say, be the energy that you wish to attract. So I just try and be consistent with that. And if somebody's not feeling it, fuck them. Bro, I fucking love you for this. On Real Talk, and honestly, you know what's so funny? I used to be on the track of like, fuck them, but I didn't mean it. you know where I'm at it's not fuck them it's actually I'm in full I feel bad my compassion the compassionate catfish is here actually let's open these packs we're doing the V friends part now oh I'm excited right now hold on it's huge they just traded packs I want to see who got them real quick I caught them off guard I like that what I want you to do is go through these V friends look at all your cards and decide which character you most associated with.
28:27You're getting glasses. You ready for this? Here we go. There he is. By the way, I'm going through it too, brother. I'm like getting close. I'm going to have to do, oh, I got my favorite. Literally, I got my favorite underrated character. Here's some alpha for B friends. I'm getting serious about developing this character. I just got, I got a good one. I got a polished poodle. You got a good one. Oh, you pulled a good one. She pulled a shiny. Oh. It's a rare one. I might just use this one. No, no, but look at the names. We're picking one guy? Don't use the shiny one. Pick one character that most represents you.
28:54But you know what's funny? Back to Compassionate Catfish being here. I was never fuck them. I was always like, first in youth, I was like, they don't matter. Like no peer pressure. Didn't feel it. Now in my older age, when someone's coming with the wrong energy to me, especially I'm like you, I come out the gate like fucking fire. Yeah, 100%. I'm always trying to make people feel comfortable. Because I'm so comfortable and I know most people aren't comfortable. So I'm trying to make the whole scene comfortable. if someone's really not about that towards me i go into like my god yeah i just came in here and love bombed the fuck out of this room went humble especially now that i have like notoriety now my like i did this when i was 19 and no one on earth knew who the fuck i was and it would work as a good thing for people now you carry some reputation so it's even double works everyone's like oh okay cool so now if i see darkness to that i'm like that person is in a deep bad place yeah i'm like i need to like double down and try to get them out i i go like why like why like what has gotten you to this i usually think it's like real fucked up shit yeah like maybe right you know like item by the way just like talking about real life back to gratitude everybody big shout out to everybody here uh western jack what's good good since 82 first time chat let's clap it up for I'm good to see you.
30:14All right. All right. My intuition is they were born in 82, so I find that awesome. But podcast, Twitch, who's watching live, if you're listening to the podcast, go to GaryVee.com slash Twitch, subscribe up, make sure you catch us live in the future. My big thing now though is like, look, like for example, real talk. I had a six to seven PM meeting today with a journalist. Literally, because Joe was, I don't know if you guys know this, Twitch, I don't know if you know this podcast if you're listening. Joe was so inappropriately late and made this episode much shorter. If you're watching right now, you're like, wait a minute, most are 60 minutes.
30:52Why is this only 35? That's Joe. It's all Joe's fault. But because of Joe being so wildly late. We had a great conversation. We did, but I got to see this text from my admins. This meeting is canceled tonight because she's on a plane right this second to Chicago because her mom had a heart attack. Like I don't think people understand how life actually works. We're worried about all this dumb shit and real life shit. Real life shit is happening. Since we've done this podcast, ungodly amounts of tragic things have happened in the world. And I don't see that as dark. I see that as my God, I'm so grateful that that hasn't happened to my inner circle yet.
31:33Yet. The nobody lives to a hundred without heartbreak. Yes. Yeah. You know what I mean? Nobody comes out on his cave. That's the thing too though. So like if you're in the landscape that we're on, you're putting out. So people are just seeing the product. But like day to day, I mean, it's I mean, I don't know how it is for everyone, but I'm by myself creating ideas, wearing all these different hats. I mean, I got a team now that I'm so grateful for. But like we're human beings at the end of the day, too. So there's them down. Just Joe for president 2024. I'm sorry to interrupt your brother. Joe, are you willing to announce your presidential run right here on podcast with friends?
32:09Sure. How many votes do you think you're gonna get? Seven Teen? Present company not included I got two in this room I don't know I'm still working on you I'm not voting for you Are you out of your fucking mind? You show up late to the campaign Let's go Which character out of the VFriends you pulled most spoke to you? I got Ooh I love this I got tough to beat a worm from the dirt Ooh There's a worm in VFriends whose name is tough to beat a worm from the dirt Ooh fuck Why did that I want to connect with you. I wanted to ask you, can you explain worms? I can, but why did it associate, on your first reaction, what hit you?
32:45You like worms or? I do it. I fight with worms too. Not the flowers. You like worms? And flowers, yeah. Oh, the flowers. I like worms more. Yeah, I'll explain this really simple. This is one of truly, there's 283 characters. This is, oh, I'm sorry. This is literally, literally, genuinely one of my favorite characters. Let's see if I get the light here. There you go. Boom. So let me tell you why I love this character. I feel like this is me, and I feel like it's all the people I fuck with. I believe that if you're lucky enough to be born into humble environments, and you have love around you, you become undefeated.
33:24That I think there's incredible vulnerability with privilege at youth. And it leads to a lot of the things I think about, which is insecurity and confidence. When you come from the dirt, You know what life feels like when you don't have stuff and fame and money and fancy things. And even the toughest upbringings have many days of happiness in that dirt. And I think it gives you a better perspective of life. Like, I just think that that worm, it's kind of like, I mean, I'm going to go actually even deeper. This is an alpha story. Growing up, I used to play with worms a lot. We were 80s kids. this is just what we did in New Jersey and then I just like the dirt and then I thought about dirt and worm and I think a lot of kids there's 10, 15, 19, 16, 7, 9, 10, 13 and even 20, 30, 40 year olds right now who don't give themselves enough credit for their resilience and resilience is required yeah 100 % resilience is required so that fucking worm is one of my favorite characters I'm a big fan I'm glad you picked that Joey?
34:34I went with a polished poodle Please tell me why you associate When I look at you, probably the last thing I think about is polished Yeah, but the first thing you think about is poodle I'm a dog guy I mean, I have a Non-profit around dogs, old dogs So Gatto Pups and Friends, shout out to my peeps Shout out that, hold on, let's do that again Not as fast, shout out to the URL so people can go And maybe contribute Gatto Pups and Friends is our non-profit we launched last year Yeah, that's a.com, that's not an official That's the Gatto Pups and Friends.com Or on Instagram, Matt Gatto Pups and Friends.
35:04It's our nonprofit we started last year, mostly senior and unwanted dogs. Had our 57th adoption last week, Cinnamon Roll. Congrats. Found a home, so it was great. But I'm a dog guy. I love dogs, and I feel like I'm a little polished right now because I did some real self-work over the past couple years. I'm proud of you, brother. So I think I feel like I'm a little on this stage of me right now, so that spoke to me. Awesome. Nicky? I got the Principled Praying Mantis. I like that because I wouldn't be where I am today without Principal. because I think you talk about growing up in Humble Beginnings.
35:35Growing up, we were very fortunate. I had a roof over my head. I had a loving family, but I also had a father that worked every day. And when he worked every day, he was a leader. And leader, when there's a natural born leader, it's action. It's not telling you. He just fucking got up and fucking went to work. It's not preaching. It's putting in work. It's 100%. And whenever I wanted to do something, whenever I wanted to accomplish something, he instilled in me that you have to work for what you get. And so being that I didn't really necessarily come out of the mud, but when I was nine years old, painting my whole fucking fence back to front.
36:08You know what's funny? Let's talk about that. There's a lot of kids that grow up in middle class, upper middle class, and even occasionally wealthy families that the parents are just like, fuck this shit. And like, you know, yes, we're not poor, but like we're not giving you money after 10. And so like, you want money? 10. I get it. If I wanted Madden, it was go watch each Windows$5 of the card. The whole thing. So I think instilling those principles in me and seeing principles be expressed has led me to - Love it. That's a rookie card too. There's a series one. As you can see, these white backs right here.
36:43Those are my original drawings. Those are sick. Yeah, those are my original drawings. But this is series two. That's your original. I'm sorry, Gary. But that's your original drawing. I drew that. You weren't kidding with the no artist bullshit. No, bro. Fuck you, bro. What about this? Look at this. That's fucking You drew that That's alright That's alright I don't even know what that is You're not gonna side by side Give me that for a second Wait a minute Wait a minute I'm about to really fuck with you though Okay Fuck you I drew this And this is fresh Wow That's right Respect Respect Okay but hold on But hold on Then you also drew this Exactly What are you talking about That's a jolly fucking jacko What is that My god is saying What is Give me that Give me that What was it That's your worst nightmare That dude's gonna come to your house And cut your fucking throat You think I'm gonna be scared of that Is what I'm saying For the fucking knife Yeah Maybe.
37:27Maybe. You took a couple of our classes in between. All right. Let me give you mine. Okay. The tenacious termite. Favorite word. Is that your favorite word? Tenacious termite. One of my sayings is be tenacious. I am obsessed with tenacity. Yes. Love it. Again, back to what I think everyone's trying to do here. And by the way, you said something earlier about the concept of it being an emotional thing, not a physical thing. I don't recall what the reference was, but that's how I think about tenacity. I think the emotional success that I think everybody who's watching right now or listening, I think this is probably the most interesting thing that I'm personally working on.
38:04I've been in the lab and that means in my head. Shower, flights, driving. It's the best. It's the lab. It's the actual fucking lab. It's the fucking best shit ever. I've been in the lab and all I'm thinking about is if I can market to the world the redefining of success to be peace of mind and smiling instead of fucking stuff, I could leave the biggest impact of all time and I don't know why one wouldn't try. Totally agree. And so I just, I think tenacity is an incredible trait but it's the tenacity not to go on tour every day or make music every day or be an entrepreneur, build content. it's the tenacity to fight for calm.
38:55Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. The emotional work. I see it. The emotional work. No, 100%. And I think, too, like, when you get to the place where, because social media is great, but it's also a dangerous place because there's so many people telling you what they think you should do, even if you're so deep-rooted in who you are. And a lot of people are trying to define what success is and what they think your success should be. and like if you kind of tune into that it could be a dangerous place. By the way, Nicky, on that, I know people have this take on social. I will say this, pre-social, that my issue was you only had a couple of voices.
39:31Your parents defined success and you were stuck in that two-person game whereas now all these other voices, to your point, there's unlimited garbage but if you try to find the gold, there's more gold out there than there ever was. The way we grew up, we didn't have these voices. there was none of us and you also get the world instead of your neighborhood think about the circle of people that are influencing you I'm going to end with dreams tell me a dream you have we've gone deep, you could make it far more light I'd rather it actually be a little more selfish than the selfless talk we just did like a fun thing, like winning an academy award you're so young in the journey compared to us old guys we're young by the way, anybody under 90 is young, 92 year olds I apologize, where are you at?
40:14what's a dream of yours at this point? I have a lot of dreams. Break them down. Shoot them. I have the vision. Go ahead. I like that. But I want to get nominated for the Grammy Awards next year. I see myself winning a Grammy soon. Yeah. I believe in my dreams. That's why everything I speak into exists. Why do you value soon? Soon because I believe I can make it work soon. do you feel like wanting it soon potentially has any impact on your output? I'll tell you where I'm going. I'm worried about soon. Because for me, it's like, if you win a Grammy in seven years, you're a child. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:58And that's fresh and amazing. And I think it takes a little pressure off your chest because when you put soon or fast on it, it sometimes changes the things people do because they think they need to achieve it in a window to put an ideology on a pedestal. Thoughts? No, yeah, I feel like soon for me means whenever God is handing it to me, like God's plan, like it'll come whenever it'll come. So fight for it as fast as possible because that's the tenacity, but you're chill if you get it in 19 years, not in 19 weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put the work in the mouth. Yeah, exactly. I just want to make it work.
41:35I just want to, like, honestly, like, I always take my time with everything. I just dropped an EP. I took my time with that too. It came together very organically. I wasn't forcing it. I was like, I think it was God telling me, like right now, Dina, it's your time to put it out there. So other than the Grammy, I want to work. You like intuition?
41:55Yeah. You go with it or do you overthink it? Like when you feel in your stomach, does your brain have say? Is it a partner to your stomach or does it actually overrule your stomach? It used to because I used to overthink a lot, but right now I really just go with my intuition. I trust my gut feeling so whatever my gut feeling is. I feel like God's plan is a cousin to the intuitive stomach. I'm all intuition. I think it's the biggest miss in society right now. I think we've over rationalized in the last hundred years and that if you go back a hundred years there was unlimited people walking around of evil eye and stomach and I think intuition is underrated.
42:35It really is. I agree with that. I think you gotta go with I mean everybody you're your own compass you know because you know that feeling you know the feeling when it's right you're accountable for your own yes so it all falls on you 100 % I think that's part of it you know exactly keep talking amongst yourself I'm trying to buy more time in the podcast okay keep building on that keep thoughts on that well I would the thing about it's funny because like I think it's also a young thing too because like when I was 19 years old yeah you know and I look where I am now at 47 so different right like it took me I'm an 18 year overnight success.
43:09It took me as almost a year, a year older than you, right. To make it like I was doing improv in a little, little buildings, you know, so you gotta, you gotta really take your time with that too, which is good. But I love that. If, as long as you're putting the work in, I think that's, what's important. But I love how you said 18 year overnight success. Cause like it looks overnight. And you don't realize all the work you're putting in behind the scenes. And nobody sees it. Nobody does it. What's done in the dark one day comes to the light. Yeah. And when you, when, when it happens it's like everybody all overnight no i've been 18 years like the whole the whole way here i've been i've been working but let's get a question or two from twitch twitch what do you got um i agree dina is a superstar this is gonna be fun this is gonna be a lot of fun to watch in like nine years like and be like she was fucking in our office yeah right like you know oh i remember joe we miss him rest in peace that ain't even right no i hate that i hate that shit i'm so with you bro don't do that shit don't even fucking put it out I don't like that shit don't even fucking put that shit out Joe don't be a dick face I don't like this my grandmother does that all the time I'm like no one to stop I don't like that well grandmas are supposed to do that that's our leverage be like if you don't listen to me I'll be dead tomorrow one day I'm gonna be here you're gonna do it while I'm here you're gonna miss me when I'm gone eat the meatballs forever 1620 let's go with you Nicky because you're so early in your career what's your biggest takeaway so far from your career will Joe Gatto will be at VCon next year.
44:38August 8th to the 11th in LA. Want to come up and make some people laugh? Do. I'm there. All right. We're going to work on it. Yeah, I'm not touring then. All right. We're going to figure that out. At this point, you're two seconds in, but at this point, your single biggest takeaway from this career you have as an emerging public figure that you wouldn't have thought the day before you posted that first TikTok. You didn't see it coming. You're like, oh shit, this. Fear. is afraid of you too. Interesting. Break that down. And if you, like fear is like, like has so much control, but it's the same feeling as happiness.
45:16So if you run at, like nobody runs from happiness. Fear is deathly afraid of the day where you turn around and be like, I'm not fucking afraid of you. It's funny you say that. And then it loses all power. And you could be afraid and do all these, like I've given, I've done a ton of shit scared out of my mind, but I'm still me because I'm not going to let fear beat me. And I think, you know, like for the past three years, I've been afraid in multiple occasions. But my godmother told me, you know, you have to embrace every emotion, but you can't be every emotion. So when I do feel fear, I'm just like, all right, well, I'm afraid, but I'm still going to do what I'm meant to do.
45:52It's so funny. It's literally incredibly similar to one of my favorite quotes for myself that I say occasionally, but I say to myself all the time, which is, fear is fake. Yeah, it's fake as fuck. Fear Hangs out with fucking Santa Claus Wait a minute What are you saying? I'm saying Oh my god this reminds me of something that I gotta tell you Do you know when I stop telling jokes? Fourth grade Do you know why? Denise Laurie if you're out there big shout out Denise Laurie was my sister's best friend She was in kindergarten I was in fourth My sister was in first grade We come home from school This is 80s life All outside chilling It wasn't even a thought.
46:35It was the best. You were just outside constantly living. Parents knew. There's fucking parents right now that have fucking trackers on their kids in college. I was six. Wow. My mom had no fucking clue where the fuck I was. No way. I was in the neighborhood somewhere. Somewhere. Somewhere. Six. Somewhere. You want to talk about two years? It's a different world though, Gary. You know. Same world. Bingo. It's same world. All right. I don't know. They fucking tricked you, Nicky. I don't know. Yeah, they probably did. It's fucking safer. All right. With all these phones and everything, kidnappers are like, fuck this shit.
47:02Yeah. It's safer. Somebody had to see you. It's safer. It's so fucking safe. Somebody had to see you get stuck in a trunk. It's 10 times safer. It's just that the news became a business and selling fear, which is fake, fucking works. Anyway, Joe, last time I told a joke. So I hear this joke. It fucking rips all day in fourth grade. I'm killing people. They're like, you're the fucking, you're Richard Pryor. I'm like, I'm Richard Pryor. I'm fucking killing it. I come home and I tell this joke to my crew. Robbie Turnick, Marissa Bird, Andy Greco, Denise Lorry. Shout out, shout out. Big shout out, I'm giving all the shout, Eric Godfrey, Alan Godfrey.
47:37I'm like, gang, let me fucking, I'm on my way. I'm gonna be a practical joker in the future. I'm that guy, like here's the joke. All right, if the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus were in a room, and I threw a quarter in the middle of the room, who would get it? No one, because there's no such thing as the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny. So I tell this joke Everyone's dying Laughing Except Denise Laurie Starts crying Because you dropped The truth bomb on that ass Because she still believes It gets worse It gets worse Oh father came to see you Worse At the door Worse Where is it Ding dong Oh shit Get to the Get to the Door Denise's mom Who is literally May she rest in peace One of the greatest women I have ever met in my life You want to talk about sweetness sweetness again back to 80s all the moms were my mom yeah right by the way you you want to talk about how different shit was in 1985 if you got fresh or did some wrong shit in the neighborhood and you were on your friend's lawn their mom could smack you yeah for sure i was smacked by women that were not my mom and i said thank you very much i'm sorry i'm sorry imagine that shit happening now come on now no i can't but i ruined her fucking life she came over and nothing hurts more than, and I was a good leader in the neighborhood.
49:00She just looked me dead in the face and she said, I'm disappointed in you. Disappointed. Honestly, I can't even tell you what's going on in my body. I've never told this story. It was fucking devastating. Anyway, I don't know if you know this, but Santa's fake. There's just all people crying in the gym. And fear hangs out with Santa. Fear is fake. Fear is some shit you made up and we need to get the fucking shit out of the system because right now, unfortunately, if you want to know what's going on in the world, it's that fear is on fire. It has momentum. It is on fire. Politicians have weaponized it.
49:39Parents have weaponized it. School systems have weaponized it. Humans have weaponized it. Young generations have weaponized it. It is the weapon of choice and I fucking hate it more than anything on earth. I fucking hate fear as much as I hate Bill Belichick.
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50:52ends June 30th. Terms at aka.ms slash college pc. And that's a lot. Fuck yeah. Drop that mic. I think we were talking about dreams. Yeah. I want to own a pony.
51:09HBCU grad said, Gary, tell me more about becoming a full-time streamer. I said this the other day. I'm very real on this. I think what I'm doing right now, everyone, for me, I don't have time. If I was 22, I would get in front of a camera and stream all day. It is very clear to me that live is the opportunity right now for all three of you. I couldn't push you more enough to do TikTok live all day long. All day long. Brushing your teeth, driving, you know, make pretend you're late on the train to a meeting. Like whatever you like to do. I drove, by the way. I drove. You drove your own car? Good for you.
51:42I do that all the time. I just really, really, really think that live. So anyway, what did I mean? I mean that I really genuinely believe that streaming is a huge platform. People are interested in people. You don't have to put on a show. I don't have to give a keynote. I'm about to stop this and go on mute. And people are going to watch in the background me going on with my day. And that's interesting because it's an insight because I can tell you this. 16-year-old me would have looked up to Gary V and would have thought it was fucking cool to see how he does his day. I'm like, okay. That, to me, I'm huge on watching people being observant and watching how people move so if i if i take the bushes i got binoculars i got the whole thing but like i've i've pushes i've nicky lives in the bush no i do no no no like i'm watching everything that's great and so like when i see that like when i watch people work i take what i can and i and i almost like and that's the thing and that's why i like i'm so blessed to be living in this area is like there's so much free fucking game out there you You just gotta pay attention.
52:49And you just gotta look for it. And you just gotta have the hunger to do it. Blonde Eath, I need to get rid of my fear of the camera. My friends, if someone says you're not attractive, they're a piece of shit. Yeah, for sure. They're a piece of shit. Like, I don't know what else to say. Like, can we just, can we make you like this one? Like, I don't know what else. I don't like them. If someone comes on your fucking platform and comes to you, they come to your home. Right. Your page is your home. Yep. And they don't take off the shoes. Yep. And they look you in the face and say you're ugly. They are a piece of shit.
53:22For sure. That's how we're ending the show. Thank you, boys and girls. Thank you. Thank you.
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Today's episode of the GaryVee Audio Experience is a fun one. It's a throwback to Podcast with friends where I sit down with Dina Ayada, Joe Gatto, and Nicky Cassano, we chat about why people are vulnerable to judgement from others, not caring about other people's opinions, and the importance of patience, intuition, and resilience. We also talk about fear, why it is fake, and how to overcome it. Hope you enjoy this one!
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