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The GaryVee Audio Experience: Episode Summary
Episode Title
The Future Won’t Wait: How to Build When Everything’s Changing | GaryVee Samsung Keynote
Episode Description
In this episode, Gary Vaynerchuk delivers a keynote speech at Samsung, discussing leadership, adaptability, and the importance of kindness and accountability in today's business landscape. He shares personal experiences from his upbringing and emphasizes the necessity of understanding emerging technologies like AI for survival in the modern market.
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Key Themes and Discussions
- The Shift in Leadership and Business
- Old Rules No Longer Apply:
- Business strategies rooted in fear are ineffective for long-term success.
- Kindness, accountability, and adaptability are now critical competitive advantages.
- Personal Stories:
- Gary recounts his early life as an immigrant and entrepreneur, highlighting his father's tough management style and its impact on him.
- Experiences growing Wine Library into a $65 million business without external funding.
- The Role of Kindness in Success
- Kindness vs. Manipulation:
- True kindness involves giving without the expectation of receiving something in return.
- Misunderstood kindness can lead to manipulation and disappointment in personal and professional relationships.
- Navigating Change in Business
- Embracing Tough Times:
- Economic downturns should be viewed as opportunities rather than setbacks.
- Encouragement to adopt an offensive strategy during recessions rather than going into defense mode.
- Future of Marketing
- Interest Media:
- Shift from social media to "interest media," where content is tailored and delivered based on user interests rather than follower counts.
- Importance of organic social media spending, suggesting 20% of marketing budgets should be allocated to organic creative content.
- The Impact of AI
- AI as a Tool for Advancement:
- Emphasis on understanding and leveraging AI as essential for future success.
- Optimism about AI's potential to create opportunities and reshape industries.
- Investment Philosophy
- Betting on People and Ideas:
- Gary discusses the importance of investing in both the entrepreneur and their idea.
- Shares insights from past successful investments, including Facebook, while also acknowledging missed opportunities like Uber.
- Content Creation and Personal Branding
- Authenticity in Content:
- Creating content that promotes real-life values, particularly in parenting and self-esteem.
- Importance of connecting deeply with audiences through genuine storytelling.
- Technology and Future Trends
- Next Innovations:
- Discussion on the evolution of technology and its impact on communication and marketing.
- Predictions about the future of devices replacing current smartphones and the rise of social commerce and AI influencers.
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Key Takeaways
- Emotional Intelligence in Leadership: Leaders should prioritize kindness and optimism, especially during challenging times.
- Adaptability is Key: Businesses must remain flexible and open to change to survive and thrive in a fast-evolving landscape.
- Invest in Organic Social Media: Companies should significantly increase their investment in organic content to tap into current market behaviors.
- AI is Inevitable: Embracing AI and technological advancements will be crucial for future survival and success.
- Focus on Authentic Connections: Creating meaningful content that resonates with audiences will build stronger brands and customer loyalty.
Conclusion This keynote from Gary Vaynerchuk serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of evolving leadership styles, embracing change, and investing in kindness and adaptability to succeed in a rapidly shifting business environment.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Welcome back to another episode of the Gary V Audio Experience. In today's episode, we're sharing a special keynote that Gary delivered for Samsung. In this wide-ranging conversation, Gary opens up about how his immigrant beginnings informed his business sensibilities and ultimately led to the creation of numerous successful business ventures. He shares insights on leadership, why kindness and accountability matter more than ever, and how intuition has been the foundation of his biggest career moves. If you're an entrepreneur, a leader, or someone looking to stay ahead in today's fast-changing world, This episode is packed with timeless advice and real-world strategies.
0:34Let's dive in. Look, I was born in the Soviet Union, and that was a tough place to be born. I got very lucky to come to America when I was very young, three, four years old. My father got a job as a stock boy in a liquor store making$2 an hour, which was minimum wage in New Jersey in 1981, and built his American dream by working in that store, eventually becoming the manager, saving money for almost a decade, and then buying his own store in Springfield, New Jersey. I was born an entrepreneur. So by the time I was six, I was three, four lemonade stands running at the same time. By the time I was 12, I was making $1 ,000 a weekend selling baseball cards in the malls of New Jersey.
1:19And then when I turned 14, being the oldest son in an immigrant family, I was dragged into the store, my dad's store. And then he started paying me two bucks an hour. So I went from making 100 bucks a weekend selling baseball cards to making two bucks an hour bagging ice and stocking shelves for 15 hours a day. It was child labor. It was Soviet energy. My dad was, my mom is an angel of sunshine and unicorns and empathy and compassion and joy. She is the hero of my life. She is the foundation of my success. I only sit here because of the way she parented me. It's true.
2:07My dad is my man. We're so close, but it was a shock to my system. He was tough. He was not kind to his employees. It took me about 20 years to understand. He grew up in a Soviet environment where everyone stole from the businesses. Unless you're from Cuba or the Soviet Union, it's very hard for you to understand the culture where every citizen is stealing from the government. So he didn't trust anything. He today struggles with it at 72 years old. So it was a shock to the system, but I got very fortunate. About a year or two into working in the store, I realized that people collected wine. and that was able to connect to my passion around collecting trading cards and memorabilia and by the time I was 17 years old, I knew everything about wine, went head deep and just like in that video said, in my freshman year of college, I saw the internet and I knew that was gonna change the world intuitively which has been a huge compass in my life.
3:09I would argue that intuition is disproportionately the most underestimated and misunderstood attribute in society today. And I think we've spent a lot of time trying to take that out of people, and it's too bad, because I can tell you all of the great things that have ever happened to me have been based on that intuition, and that intuition led me to understanding something was about to happen. And, you know, I follow my intuition, and I follow it up with a lot of work, and in 1997, I launched one of the first e-commerce wine businesses in America, and for context, my father's business was doing$4 million a year top line.
3:46It was running on 10 % gross profit. So$400 ,000 before expenses. This was a family business. And in a five-year window with no cash infusion, no raising capital, not even having a credit line from the bank because my dad didn't believe in it, immigrant stuff, I grew that business from a four to a$65 million business on what is what I do for a living now, which is I day trade attention. I, as a marketer, as an operator, as a boss, as a creator, I try to pay attention to where the consumer's attention is versus where we think it is. And I try to become great at storytelling within it. And back then that was email marketing, having a website and doing Google AdWords.
4:29Today, it's understanding how to do organic, social, creative AI influencers and other things. but that has been the beacon of my career. I love that. I also love what you said about your family and you spoke about your parents but you've also said that your dad is your true mentor. Yeah. You know it's funny. If my dad was sitting here he's at a point in his life where he would interrupt you and tell you that I'm his mentor and it would make me emotional and it's the biggest compliment I walk on earth for but the reason I know my father's my mentor is for all my mother's rainbow and sunshines and positivity, she also did a remarkable job in keeping me accountable.
5:10One of the great missteps of modern parenting is that we are over-coddling our children. We are not creating consequences. Yeah.
5:22And there are people in the crowd who are clapping right now who are still paying for their 24-year-old's lifestyle.
5:31My parents did not have that problem. But my mom appreciated my gift of gab, my creativity. And that's great to a point, but my mom let me get away with a lot of lying and fibbing, because she thought it was cute and clever and she knew how to manage me. However, it put me in a place at 14 that all my charisma, all my dynamic capability to communicate, my dad really saved the course of my life because I believe if I had a different father who also didn't see the world the way he does, which by context, my father thinks a slight embellishment is the great lie of society. He's just like just a hardcore, like I remember very early on, I was like, dad, you know, we were driving home.
6:18I'm like, dad, I sold 86 bottles of what you wanted me to sell. The next day he came home and he was like, he looked super scary and he was, angry at me and I was like, he's like, you sold 84. That's who he was and I will tell you because I did fear my father at that point in my life, it scared me straight and I will tell you that I don't think that I would have been who I am nor been able to navigate this public life for the last 15 years without that addition of understanding that you've got to keep it real and I'm very grateful for that because I think a lot of people born with my level of gab go the wrong way because it's easy because you can get away with it and I'm very grateful for that.
7:03Yeah, and I like how I've seen, I see a number of your videos and in a lot of them you talk about being genuine and authentic and kind which I really admire. I would tell you as I sit here with all of you today, the single statement that I hate most in society is nice guys finish last. I think it's a very poisonous concept and I believe that kindness is the foundation of my financial success.
7:32That's great. And I think people are confused about that. You know, somebody, you know, thank you for those accolades but I'm empathetic enough to know someone sitting there right now thinking, you know, I've been kind but people have walked all over me my whole life. If you believe that in this crowd, you have to ask yourself, were you being kind or were you trying to manipulate a situation? A lot of times people give with expectation. True kindness is giving without expectation. When you're giving with expecting something in return, that's closer to manipulation than kindness. How do you see that in terms of a leadership style?
8:12Especially in a work environment where you need to demand, you need to deliver. Yeah, I mean, right before we did this, I asked you who's in here. CIOs, B2B partners, sales, marketing, tech. So I was like, wow, what a diverse group. But the one thing I can tell you is for anybody here who has an employee that reports to them, that connects all of us in this room. I think a lot about management. You know, I by nature believe in positivity and some of the stuff you're starting to sense from me on stage. On the flip side, I told you earlier, my father navigated management with fear. So I came in my natural self that believes that optimism and hope and kindness is best leadership.
8:59And then I watched up close and personal in my formative teenage years somebody who navigated leadership through fear. Like would come upstairs and curse at employees and be like, I'm gonna fire you. And I watched it up close and I got to see both contexts. I have an agency. I have a marketing agency that has about 2 ,000 people in it right now globally. It's 15 years old. The company's only 15 years old and we have over 100 people that have been at the company for over 10 years in the agency business. That is the thing I'm most proud of. The only way I think you can get that is by everyone here in this audience who has an employee underneath them to understand that fear, and this is really heavy.
9:45By show of hands, who's in sales? this is gonna really resonate for all of you. Whether it's direct, and I'm sure you've had bosses like that, or whether it's indirect, because people are clever, you know, the concept of like, if we don't hit the numbers this month, who knows what's gonna happen? No. That stuff works to a short term. Fear is an incredibly effective tool for the short term. It is an incredibly vulnerable tool for the long term. and I think parenting, politics, and bosses are very good at deploying fear. And I think for me, it's very obvious that that is the wrong path. So I believe accountability, I believe in that, I believe in candor, something I've actually am great on on stage, but have struggled as a manager through my career.
10:38But I think we need to, I think optimism and hope and joy is a much better weapon. Number two, I will tell everybody, for the ones here that feel like they're a good manager or a good leader, the thing I tell all my direct reports and my leadership is I don't need peacetime generals. No crap you're nice when all the numbers are coming in. I want to know how you act when it's bad. I think one thing that I would challenge everybody to debate in here is if you want to get to the highest levels, you need to be at your kindest. You need to be at your warmest. You need to be at your best when the shit is hitting the fan.
11:25Thank you.
11:29Well, let's stay on leadership. We're talking about leaders. We're talking about style of leadership. We have a number of leaders in here that are working towards, and all of us within our organizations are navigating through a lot of changes that are happening. Tariffs? A lot of things that are happening, yes. Yes. So how do you think of creating highly scalable, adaptable teams? By not crying about things you can't control.
11:59And one of the good things about macro changes, like a tariff, is like, obviously there's some variables to this, but I never cry when we're all in it. You know, when we're all in it, when your competitors have to deal with the same thing, obviously there's issues where a domestic, I understand those variables, but for me, for example, my biggest financial booms of my career have been during recessions. Mainly because I go into double offense in those moments and most people go into defense. And so I personally root for economic demise. Well let's talk about the investments that you're making.
12:43You are a serial entrepreneur. Yes. And so some of the investments that you've made have been really good. Yes. So let's talk about some of the positive approaches in terms of how you make some of those investments, what you're looking at. Well, I'm a big fan of when I'm an angel investor to bet on the jockey and the horse. Meaning, at my best, I will like both the entrepreneur, her or him, and her or his idea. At my worst, I am only picking one of those things. Obviously, especially for the people that really know my career, when you invest in Facebook and Twitter and Snap and Coinbase, and I've had a lot of big wins, and they tend to have the same thing, which is I've observed that there's something brewing, but then when I sat down with the leader, it solidified for me.
13:42When I invested in Facebook in 2007, I put every dollar I had in my savings account to invest in that company and that happened three minutes into having dinner with Mark. It was just black and white to me that he understood consumer behavior and Facebook was far enough along. It wasn't like I was seeing it at the idea phase so that was easy. I wish I had more money back then but I tend to look for the jockey and the horse. That's great. One of the things I love working about Samsung, we've been talking about R &D, how much we invest in R &D and innovations. One of the things I also love is that we're not afraid of any kind of failure.
14:20We love trying new things, especially within marketing. I love that about my role, that we can try new things. So in terms of failure, there's always so many lessons that you learn that you then are able to deploy and come back stronger, better. If you had to talk on the flip side in terms of some of the failures because you've seen investments like Facebook, but you've also seen investments like Uber, for example. Uber hurts. I actually got into Uber fairly early, but I missed the first year and a half, and that cost me somewhere in the ballpark of$400 million. I was investing$25 ,000 and$50 ,000 checks at the time.
14:56If you go back to the first book I ever wrote up there, Crush It!, it's the first business book I ever wrote. So it's important, as you can imagine, I literally acknowledge my whole family and one random human being, Travis, the co-founder and CEO of Crush It because he was in between gigs at the time and he read the book and gave me some good feedback and I thought he contributed so I wanted to shout him out. So if I wrote my normal$25 ,000 or$50 ,000 check depending on the size of that check, today that would have been worth somewhere between$300 ,000 and$700 ,000 ,000. dollars, which, you know, on$25 ,000 to get three to$400 million, that's a pretty good ROI.
15:37I missed it, and I shouldn't have missed it. What I learned was what I talked about earlier, which is I need to live my truth and eat my own dog food. When Uber came around and I met with Travis, and to Travis's credit, I passed, and he then came back to me at a talk I did in San San Francisco met me and asked me again to invest in Uber and I passed again because I was playing defense. I had just bought my first apartment, significant apartment in Manhattan. I'd been less liquid than I'd ever been in my life and unlike when I did Facebook five or six years earlier, I just had a child and I played defense and it cost me.
16:20And I'm very mad at you for bringing it up. Well, where I was going with it. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. In fact, I'm sorry to interrupt just to bring value. In fact, it's the best. First of all, in general, the way I live life is like, okay, I would have made that investment. Clearly, with 500 million more dollars in liquid, my life would be different than it's been the last seven years. And I always say to myself, cool, I could have made that investment, but that might have led to me being in different places at different times. And maybe while I was crossing the street in San Francisco at a meeting, I would have been hit by a car, and I might be dead right now if I invested in Uber.
16:55I mean this. I know it's like a giggle, giggle, but that's how I think about life. The butterfly effect, you never know. And so I don't know. As I sit here today, happy, everyone in my life is healthy, I'm thrilled I passed on Uber twice and missed out on$500 million because I'm alive. Thank you. Well, I'm glad I brought that up. So let's switch gears to social media. Okay. Clearly you're one of the OG influencers. You have so much content that you build. We have marketers in the room. We all build content. We're all building our personal brand. How do you think about content and building content?
17:33I don't think a single person in this room, either if they're building their personal brand on LinkedIn or if they're a marketing executive for Samsung or another company, is spending anywhere close to enough money on social. Why do you say that? Because it's underpriced. Because, let's use Samsung, such a big company, because I see too much from you in other places and not as much as I would want if I owned this company within social. Let me give you an example. Who here runs the marketing budget for whatever business you're in? Like you're pretty close to how much you spend on working and non-working dollars.
18:08Raise your hands. Just want to see. Hire, don't be bashful. That's a good thing. All right, nine, 10. For the 10 people, for example, for the 10 people, I believe every business on earth, small business owning one pizza shop all the way up to Samsung. B2B, B2C, B2G running ads and doing creative in LinkedIn. I believe that every company on earth as we sit here today in late March 2025 should be spending 20 % of its entire marketing budget on just organic social creative. Not social media. just the content that you post organically. As you know, because you're a marketer, that is a staggering number to the way most companies run it right now.
18:55What people don't understand in Fortune 5000 land is that when you commit that level of monies to making pictures and videos and written words across the eight platforms right now that have all the attention of society, from TikTok to LinkedIn and everything in between, the algorithms now work in a way where people in this room who've never posted once on Instagram or Facebook or TikTok or Twitter X or YouTube can get many views with no followers. Followers is no longer the primary metric. In fact, I don't even measure my followers or my clients' followers at all. I don't even look at reports with followers because people don't even follow anymore because the content is coming to you.
19:42In fact, I would argue that we no longer live in social media. We live in interest media where the content's coming to you. Anybody, I see all your heads. You all know this. Anybody who's on Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok now knows you're getting content coming to you, especially TikTok and Instagram. The content that you're most into right now is coming to you. When you know that and you know how to do that science, what ends up happening is when you start with social, organic, creative, and that level of financial commitment to get that much out. Again, Samsung. Just let's use one division, the appliance division.
20:22The Samsung appliance division, I think, should be putting out 20 pieces of organic, new, creative a day. Gary, I love that. That's your new KPI. I want to get to the punchline of this. because when you see every 18 of those 20 posts get a thousand views because that's your norm. When you see the one that gets 18 ,000 or the one that gets 400 ,000 I'll give you an extreme one. I don't know if you guys know what MiraLax is but they're a client of ours right now. If you know what it is this won't surprise you. They get 363 views on average on their social posts. We have a post this week that got 15 million views.
21:08You can see the impact on its Amazon sales rank. You can see the impact already on the, in a week, you can see the financial impact. When you then know that that creative, don't forget, that creative can't get views unless people like it or are interested. Marketing is built on relevance, my friends. Relevance leads to consideration. When you consider, then you might buy. For 50 years, we've been trying to figure out if the creative's good in meetings with me and you, focus groups, animatics, fake reports. The algorithms have solved this problem for us. What happens when you start with that, now the 80 % of money you have left, now you can amplify that creative.
21:51Now you can turn that into a campaign. Working media, the ad dollars, has spent the last 60 years disguising bad creative. It can now amplify great creative. this is the biggest shift in marketing since the advent of the television. That's great. We love it. Well, I want to talk a little bit about content. You create a lot of content, and in terms of your personal brand, what you're putting out, especially LinkedIn, some of the other social media, what's the most meaningful content that you've produced, or that you like producing? Probably the one that's putting pressure on parents to create self-esteem, not fake trophies.
22:34I think the content I make that challenges modern parenting around, hey, instead of over-focusing on straight A's in school, which is not a proxy to happiness or success in society, with that, you know, hey, instead of focusing on their popularity or how good they are at sports, how about while we've got these little ones for this very small window, how about we actually build actual self-esteem, which is the only way they will combat all the things that scares the crap out of every parent in this room, that content, especially when it hits and gets 50, 30 million views when I know that the audience got the message, that's the most fulfilling because that's real life.
23:23Your bank account from Uber or not, Uber is not real life. The health and well-being of your family and their general happiness and content, that's real life and that's disproportionately the content that I'm most passionate about. That's great to hear.
23:46I want to shift gears and we spoke a little bit about, you know, you spoke about the internet coming and then we spoke about social media. You're talking about the seven different platforms. I look at gaming in a big way. So Twitch, TikTok, of course, a faster growing channel especially for gaming. What do you see happening? What do you see next? Of course, AI, we've been talking about AI all morning and the different tools that are available. We talk about social commerce. I'm, what's next that's like, is always when the distribution changes, right? Like when the printing press was invented, it changed society, right?
24:23Now you had books and for example, a staggering percentage of the first 10 million books ever made were religious books, and that reinforced the fact that we have a religious society. Then the television, excuse me, then the radio came along. I mean, Winston Churchill's speech over the radio cannot be underestimated on how it potentially changed the world, and that's how the world ran. Whoever was winning on radio had incredible impact. Then the television came along. As recently as the 1960 presidential election, for the people at home that listened to the debate between Nixon and Kennedy, they felt that Nixon won the debate, but the people that watched it on TV felt that JFK won the debate.
25:10I don't know if you know this, but JFK is dramatically more handsome than Richard Nixon. And then cable came along, and now we're in the internet era, and we're in a mature internet where social media, whether the people in this audience like it or not, or have a political point of view, or think it's bad or good. It is the dominant force of our society delivered through a phone. I do not see a world where a phone like you make and your competitors make is the primary device of our society in 20 years. I find it unlikely. Obviously, Facebook has been very aggressive in developing glasses. I would never underestimate Samsung and its competitors on what they're up to in the R &D labs that nobody in this room even knows about because you've got to do the retina scan and there's only six people that even know.
26:04Well, we just spoke about that. Funny you mentioned that just this morning on something exciting that's coming up. So I believe that the next big change will probably result in when the phone that we carry the way we know it today gets challenged, the way that phone did to the television. And just like, obviously you have a very big TV business, these things aren't winner take all. They're just a process of where attention goes. So that's on my mind long term. Short term, I'm infatuated with a lot of things. For example, influencer marketing, if I go very nerdy on marketing, is a very big deal.
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26:45In fact, that's another thing you guys and gals should be doing more of. But also while that's growing, AI influencers are growing even faster. many of you have seen people in your feed that aren't real people already. And we're just getting going. Live social shopping. The QVCification of social media in the West is clearly here. This has been a dominant play in mainland China for a decade. I'm sure it's not lost on anyone who's worked in that market. But we are here now in the US and Europe with Whatnot and TikTok Shop, and I'm sure Meta and Google are working on that as well. So there's a lot of trends I'm paying attention to.
27:26And you mentioned AI. So what are you thinking in terms of when you look at adoption of AI? I know we had a session before as well where we're talking about AI itself and what it's going to do. What are you most excited about? How do you use it today? Well, I use it every day. What I'm most excited about is that the robots are going to kill our children.
27:47That should be fascinating to watch. What am I most excited about? I'm most excited about that when the tractor trailer was invented, almost 80 % of the world worked on a farm. And everybody was scared. Because now there's this invention and we don't need people to work on farms. What are all these people going to do? I would argue that the most underrated thing in the world is the human race. We are incredibly good at underestimating our collective selves. I believe AI is about to be here as we can feel it. I think it's going to be dramatically more advanced even as a group like this feels it today.
28:33And I believe that it will open up an extraordinary amount of hours for the human to do the next chapter of what she and he does, which is advance our race. And I'm very excited about it. I'm wildly optimistic. I am not naive. Like everything that has ever happened, there will be shortcomings. but I'm not crying for the job reallocation. Nobody cried for all the yellow page salespeople that got blown out by Google. Some poor sap bought 4 ,000 horses the day Henry Ford's like, I've got an idea. This is how it is. Like, you know, you guys destroyed Sony and televisions. It is what it is. It's called business.
29:21like and good news now we're clapping and just with all due respect somebody's gonna come and kill you hey hey hey let's not go there what I'm saying is look it is what it is like again back to can't cry about what you can't control we all need to woman and man up this is innovation this is technology technology's undefeated so many of my friends and contemporaries are putting their head in the sand with this AI thing and you know what people do now this new phenomenon as the world has become more political people use politics as a proxy to why they want to be lazy for the people that wanted to be lazy and do Facebook and Twitter marketing they just made fun of me and said that's for kids but when now that TikTok came around the people that want to be lazy they're like China you know like AI I don't believe in AI You ask them two questions.
30:21I'm like, how about this and this? They're like, what? I'm like, you don't not believe in AI. You don't understand AI. You're not taking this to a higher plane. And more importantly, does anyone here think like this AI thing is just gonna stop? Like, what are we doing here? And especially if you're under 30 in this audience, you should be spending every free moment educating yourself on this. This will be your reality. And by the way, and if you're in your mid 40s and 50s and have a good career, you better study it even more because this thing will make you vulnerable and you've worked hard for 30 years to be in this spot.
30:57This is what it is and I watched it with my own eyes. I'm now old enough to watch in my own eyes how many people completely disrespected and did not want the internet to happen to their peril and I ask all of you on a professional level but even on a personal level for you not to underestimate this is the biggest thing in our world. It is going to change absolutely everything and there will be opportunity and carnage in the professional world because that's what always happens when there's big advancements. I love that and I already see that. I've been using my Galaxy ring and my phone and my monitors and it's already how the interconnectedness of all the technology and how it works keep me going.
31:44I was a really bad student but for some reason I got really good grades in history and I never understood it until probably about 10 years ago. I'm like, wait a minute. I use history for pattern recognition to see where things are going. We were once cavemen. You know that, right? Yeah. Okay. Well, now we are here today with our technologies and our advancements. Of course we're gonna be robotic in 300 years. so like what do you think time just stops when you happen to be alive so yeah this is all coming it's coming whether you like it or not whether you like it or not but we're still going to be here Samsung we invest in R &D and we're being paid as well
32:34alright well we're coming up to time you know what's funny about that if I may this is an iconic company but I say this to my clients all the time I'm like bigger companies than you have gone out of business. Right, like I think that we need to quadruple down on our R &D, I think we need to quadruple down on our contemporary marketing. Like this is the battleground and it's getting more and more obvious that these two things, I mean of course we need every aspect of a business but the R &D and the marketing are incredibly important and I just, I'm fascinated by the missteps of many companies. One of my real admirations for this organization is I've always felt that it was really strong and cared about such.
33:22And kudos to you all. Thank you, we appreciate that. I'm glad you turned that around really well. By the way, if you know me at all, I'd be more than happy to not turn that around real well. I leave in seven minutes. I like to talk about the truth and that happens to be the truth. But like I said earlier, I really, really want to see you invest a lot more in social organic because your 80 % acts like 120 % when you get that machine down because you mitigate the risk of the creative variable which is marketing. Yeah, absolutely and don't worry, I've given Gary the KPI, he's on it, we will work on that.
33:59I want to kind of wrap this up. I know you play many roles. You're a serial entrepreneur, you're an investor, you're a marketer, you're an influencer. You play these different roles. You're a speaker. Is there one that you gravitate towards? Or who is Gary Vee? Is it all of that? All of it. Just like everybody here. Obviously, I live my life a little bit more publicly. But, you know, I look in the crowd. You're a mother. You're a sister. You're a daughter. You're an executive. You might be part of your church. Like, all of us have so many different variables and versions of ourselves. I try not to maximize for money.
34:37I try to maximize for the enjoyment of my day to day. That has led me to being a lot of things. Many of my most successful billionaire friends like to make fun of me because they're like, man, if you, God forbid, ever just focused on one thing, it would be the greatest thing of all time. I'm like, that's nice for you. I want to be a renaissance man. I want to wake up and say, for example, one thing we have not touched on, this is very left field. I'm currently in year four of building what I think is gonna be my biggest legacy business, which is VFriends. VFriends was an NFT crypto project that I've now made full multimedia.
35:18It is a positive Pokemon. It is my Marvel. It is my Disney. I associate more, as I sit on the stage today, with Jim Henson and Walt Disney than I do with tech founders or marketers. I just literally flew from Rochester, Minnesota, to be here because I've been on an offsite for a week developing the storylines for comic books for Patient Panda and Accountable Ant. And yeah, I mean, and for me, getting parents and children to fall in love with Accountable Ant through kids' books and comics and TV shows and trading cards would be a tremendous accomplishment for me because back to the earlier conversation, my obsession with parenting, I believe the lack of accountability has destroyed our society.
36:10We've become remarkable at pointing fingers but we're bad at pointing thumbs. It's your parents' fault. It's the government's fault. It's your spouse's fault. It's the system's fault. It's the algorithm's fault. My question to all of you in the world is when is it your fault? And so I have a real strong mission on it and so right now I'm working on that at the same time that VaynerMedia, my marketing agency, is at the tipping point of becoming one of the most significant independent marketing companies in the world. So all the people around me in that world are like, no, no, no, no, no, like three more years.
36:42But I'm like, but that doesn't make me happy. I understand that that might, and not that I'm not working on that, but I ebb and flow. And who am I? It depends on how I wake up tomorrow. I have a sports agency. I have a TV production company. I have a lot of businesses. I own a pickleball team and I want to win a championship this year. And then I'm a father and I have a family and I have an obsession to use my gift of communication both on a stage in book form and in social to leave a positive impact on a world that's been very good to me. I'm all those things and most of all, I don't beat myself up when I'm short on any version of myself.
37:31My relationship with myself is what makes everything tick. I'm a human. There's not a day that doesn't happen where I'm not making a mistake. Sometimes a big mistake. And if I leave all of the people in this room with anything is, you need to be kinder to yourself. If you do not deploy grace to yourself, who's gonna do it for you? Everyone here is trying. and I wish you loved yourself more. I love that.
38:05Thank you. Do you know why I wish that? Because everybody else sucks too. Like really though, please do not put other people on a pedestal, especially if you don't know them. You don't know them. So whatever fantasy you came up with in your mind of how great they are, it's not true. It also means you need to stop judging people. Like envy and jealousy is the fastest way to unhappiness. Stop judging people. You don't know them.
38:46Well on that great note, we're actually going to conclude this session just for the record. If my husband watches this later, it's always your fault. But Gary, I just want to thank you for this engaging conversation. It's been an absolute pleasure. Everybody give it up. Gary Vee. Thank you. Thank you. You're all incredible. Great. Great.
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