The Truth About Your Energy, Insecurity, and That Thing You've Failed at for 10 Years

0:00Podcast nation, before I get you into today's podcast, big announcement. as you probably heard at this point because I had John from Stan on the show. I'm an investor advisor to an incredible startup called Stan, Stan.store. I'm sending you right now to garyvee.com, garyvee.com slash Stan. Go check this out. We've done a Gary V. Stan store challenge, which actually has a weekly call with me. This is built for everyone who's been affected, honestly, by my overall content. The tech stack, all these features and the minimal costs per month that Stand Store has built is really the tool that was needed for this world that I envisioned when I wrote Crush It, when I wrote Crushing It, and this overall thing I'm thinking a lot about lately, which is the individual empire, right?

0:48This creator entrepreneur slash entrepreneur creator economy that I think is gonna eat up the oxygen, very honestly, the thing that so many of you want in your life and the reason so many of you are not there yet is you've got the strategy for me. you've got the ambition within yourself but you don't have the tools for you to fully maximize it and I believe you can find that at Stan store Stan dot store but specifically I want you to sign up for it through my challenge because I want to get access with you and plus there's a bunch of cool things so if you want to go see those cool things go to GaryVee.com slash Stan S-T-A-N now to the podcast This is the Gary Vee audio experience Good morning everybody Welcome to episode 88.

1:32I wanna start with my first question from Pablo, and then we're gonna get into a very special guest for a question here on Tea with Gary Vee in a second. But let's go with Pablo first. What do you got? Let's warm me up. An Astrono asks, Gary, at the National in Chicago, you are actively chasing rare fictional character cards. Could you elaborate why you believe this specific niche in collecting will keep growing? I don't know if I'm ready for this question. I don't know if I'm ready for it. You know, I feel like I'm ready for every question. For everybody who didn't understand the question, fictional characters, Batman, Santa Claus, Cinderella, Betty Boop, Alf, RoboCop, the four Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Shrek, Buzz Lightyear, Cartman from South Park.

2:21I am incredibly bullish sports cards. Obviously it's been in the news recently, Mr. Wonderful and Shine and a couple of investors spent a lot of money on a very high end Jordan, Kobe, I think, dual card. I'm always looking for things that people don't see. I have a very big thesis that the Comic Con crew is about to smash into the national and Fanatics Fest crew. So I kind of think where nerd culture has been is, you know, when you're a Harry Potter collector, you collect the first edition book. When you're a Spider-Man collector, you collect Spider-Man comic books and figures. What, you know, I kind of, you know, when you're a Star Wars big time collector, you collect the action figures.

3:13I kind of think that the trading card world is getting so big that Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and all the other characters I met, that their rookie cards are going to go big. So yes, whoever asked that question clearly was paying attention to what I was doing at the Sports Card National. When I was running around the show and not behind the V Friends booth with my son, I was picking up stuff for him, but then for myself, I was stopping by where I saw people had Fred Flintstone's rookie or Tweety Bird's rookie or Miss Piggy's rookie or Wolverine's rookie or Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Tony the Tiger from the cereal.

3:54I think there's something there there. And so that's what I'm collecting these days. And I think you're seeing a huge burst, right? I bought a Ronaldo rookie a couple of years ago. Then it went crashing down, right, Rips? We were like feeling all sad about ourselves. And then yesterday went for a lot more. And I think when you have patience in what you collect, and I hope that's what I achieve for everybody with VFriends as we build out our collectible. When you have patience with collectibles and you see something, you know, oftentimes it works out. If you're looking for a quick flip, you know, sometimes it works out tremendous and sometimes it works out terrible.

4:28If I had bought that Ronaldo and sold it when the market was soft and liquidated, I would have lost half my money. Now I'm at 6X or, yeah, 6X my investment on that card. So, you know, that's the answer. Looking for angles. Michael Chernow, let's get him up here. He collects, this man collects accolades for how good looking he is. You look great brother, how are you? I'm well man, how are you? Good man, I'm a proud investor of Creatures of Habit. That is what you see above Michael up here. Some of you in my community are aware of Creatures of Habit because we've done stuff together on social media in the past, some of you are consumers of his incredible product and are on your health and wellness journey.

5:12Michael, do you have a question or a statement or what do you need from me this morning? Yeah, I just wanted to just connect with the community and let everybody know that for the first time ever, we've opened up a crowdfund. I've never thought of a crowdfund before, but the community that we've built has been incredible. Thanks to a lot of the stuff that you've done over the years, Gary, the community's solid and strong. And I said, why not reward them with allowing them to invest alongside people like you? So is it a kickstarter? it's no so it's on start engine you mentioned mr wonderful so it's on start engine we are the fastest funded uh campaign on start engine we raised over six hundred thousand dollars in in under three weeks and um we have the most momentum badge why don't why don't why don't you first because there's a lot of new audience here for you first tell everybody what creatures of habit is first and foremost yeah creatures of habit is a lifestyle wellness brand rooted in nutritional healthy habits.

6:15We have a product called meal one. It is breakfast. It is the, you know, the old school breakfast of champions Wheaties. We have taken, we have taken center stage and it's a, it's a high protein overnight oatmeal. It's packed with 30 grams of protein, chia seeds, flaxseed, pumpkin seeds, pink Himalayan salts, got electrolytes, vitamin D3, a bunch of great stuff in there, but it's super easy to make. You make it in 30 seconds the night before, and you open up the fridge in the morning and it's ready to rock and roll. It is really just a super healthy, incredibly delicious meal. We're also launching a protein bar very soon, which I'm fired up about.

6:52It is a plant-based protein bar, 20 grams of protein. So the brand is really just, you know, it's a bunch of great people doing things that are just going to help them be a little bit better on a daily basis. And it's a fun brand. And where do people go see this if they want to make a play? if they want to make a play just go to startengine.com and uh look up creatures of habit with a k we actually created a group for gary uh gary v fans um we have a we have a top tier if you invest 55 555 i forgot about this you suckered me into like i have to do something right what was that by the way there's a crew there's a crew of gary v fans and it's uh it's a it's a it's a gary you're gonna be entered into a Gary mastermind every six months for two years, we're gonna connect.

7:42You get a year's worth of meal one, you get 15 % bonus equity incentive, shares. Mike, on this, just knowing that like startengine.com and find creatures that have it in this, can you make this easier for everyone? What's the easiest way, like what's your easiest way to get the hold of you? What's your Instagram handle? Just go to at Michael Chernow on Instagram. Okay, great, your name is on the screen right now. So it's the full straight name, right? At Michael Chernow? At Michael Chernow, link is in my bio. Forget that, can people just DM you? Can I just send all this energy, whether they wanna just be a customer and lose a couple pounds or kinda change up their habits, or if they're a little more entrepreneurial, Obama passed the JOBS Act, which allowed non-accredited investors to invest in companies.

8:31So all the opportunities I had in investing and Twitter and Facebook, a lot of my friends at that time, because we were all like not very well-to-do and didn't have those kind of bank accounts, if they wanted to put$150, if they wanted to put$500 into Twitter back then, they couldn't legally, because they weren't a credit investor, their personal finances didn't look right. The JOBS Act allowed people to invest in companies. That's when you started to see StartEngine, Kickstarter, all these Indiegogo, that's when this became real. and that's when people could actually go into startups and treat it like buying$500 worth of Nike shares.

9:07That's what we're talking about here, everyone. So again, if, and by the way, you should read the chat because a lot of people are educating here. So if you want to A, just eat healthier and get into Michael's world, which I recommend for a lot of people because just getting healthy is a good idea. Or if you want to be a little entrepreneurial and you're intrigued by what Michael's saying and I'm sure he can DM you back and give you more details. Go to at Michael Chair now, which is on here, C-H-R-N-O-W for, oh I forgot. Yeah, G-R. Oh, yes, yeah, that's like it just kicked in, sorry Mike. I also just want to mention that Gary was the first investor in Creatures of Habit and we've since, you know, been crushing it and you know, it's an incredible brand.

9:52Yeah, but let me tell you why. Let's make this more valuable for everybody. Here's why I invested with Michael. I had a couple meals with him, so you get to know people. But he also had a track record. He was an incredibly successful restaurateur here in New York and building a restaurant that has customers in New York City is, I don't know, the hardest fucking thing to do on earth. You know what I mean? Just like the most competition, super hard, super complicated, and he's an operator. And one quick story for anybody who just, just such a quick fun story. I wanted to get closer to Gary in about, in like 2017 2018 and we had a bunch of mutual friends but i just said it he had launched empathy wines and i had a bunch of restaurants in new york and this is just a little way to think about how to get things that you're going after right so i knew that gary had launched empathy i said you know what let me dm gary and see if he would be down to do an exclusive deal with me to sell empathy wine exclusively with my restaurants in new york city because it was a d2c wine business and I DM'd him and he got back to me and he was like, yo, this sounds great.

11:02Like, let's connect. We connected. Of course, the two of us are cut from very similar silk. So that was it. And I started slinging Empathy Wine at Meatball Shop and Seymour's all across the city. And we just built this relationship. So anybody out there that doesn't think, you know, you're able to get at what you only can dream of, I'm just here to tell you, take the fucking swing. Take the swing. And on that swing, you had something to offer, but there's people like me, there's many people can tell stories where there was nothing to offer on the other side, and I just went on intuition. I mean, I don't know, yesterday, some PR lady in the middle of nowhere, France, was looking for like one week to work at Vayner, you know, because she's just trying to expand her network, like literally just randomly in my DMs, and I just saw it, I was like, okay, why not?

11:48Like karma, I love business. I really love business. A little barter, a little trade, a little collecting, a little flipping, a little investing, a little building. Obviously that's the energy here, but I love karma too. And like there's other nice people out there who are on big platforms like me, who are willing to do random shit, give someone an internship, have a 15 minute coffee with someone. It's just how the world works. Last little story that I think you'll appreciate. so my I got my son's uh metal detectors my kids have been going absolutely apeshit with metal detectors on the property just bonkers finding old shit right so my older son look how fuck this it's in the genes I'm just telling you I think people are born with this gene to want to make do and create shit so anyway so they find a pile of stuff axe head you know like pickaxe all pieces of metal and they go dad this is what we're gonna do on labor day weekend we're gonna set up a table and we're going to call it the Ghent Museum where we showcase all of the things that we found in the ground.

12:54Next to the Ghent Museum is going to be the gift shop. This is all him by the way. How old is he? He's 11. He's going to be 11. We're going to put a table out with all the toys that we just want to sell. All the toys that we just want to sell and the way we're going to get people to buy the toys is if you buy a toy, they also have a grab bag. So if you buy a toy, you get to throw your hand in the grab bag, pull out a toy. Yeah, man, it's real shit. It's all in it. Hold on, real quick. Sun Steps Bill says, how do I donate to this motherfucker? Your shit helped me every day while I was grinding.

13:31Brother, go support Michael Chair now, because it's gonna help you. Go to his engine, and I'm really excited about it. Everybody, please DM Michael Chair now. That's Michael, as you all know how to spell it, and then C-H-E-R-N-O-W, if you're not on whatnot and you can't see him and can see his name. Anyway, let's move on. Michael, I love you, bro. Stay well. Appreciate you, bro. Take care. Bye-bye. All right, next question. Fire away. Kara asks, what advice would you give to women in entrepreneurship compared to men? The world views us differently, and it can be off-putting when we come off as too masculine or too feminine, even though both matter.

14:08What do you suggest? that men are just as insecure as women. No shit that there's different stuff, no question. Let me tell you from one man's point of view. When I invest or when I support, I don't have the ability to see a gear of different, of guy versus girl, not because I'm so awesome, not because I'm so progressive, not because, but probably because I have the best mom of all time and I put women on a pedestal from like a gangster standpoint, not from like, I think they are so awesome. But like, you know, and then there's other people who are the other way, but there's also people who, like guys get slammed on too.

14:48Like I've, guys on guys crime. Like very many of my guy, older OG people feel like they fucking hate frat boys and like crypto bros. And like, I just want everyone to hear this. Everybody gets shit on. Like, of course it's not lost on me the narrative of like women feeling like guys find them inferior. That's because it's true. There are guys that find women inferior. I just need to, for example, let me tell you what my prejudice was. Here's a good one. How about this one? How about from 2012 to 2016, I would not invest in any company that was started by somebody that went to an Ivy League school.

15:34I was prejudice against people that went to Harvard and Yale and Stanford because the whole boom had happened and every Ivy League kid school was gonna be the next Mark Zuckerberg and I realized most kids that are good students that go to these institutions that figure out those systems are incredible number three, four, fives and sixes and suck shit at being a number one because they're fucking robotic system machines and when something goes awry, they go to grandpa to donate to the school to fix it and that shit doesn't work in real life fucking business. But I was wrong about that. You can't do that to anything.

16:13You can't just say like, what am I, a fucking dickhead? Like all kids that went to Brown or Rice or fucking MIT suck. No, that's stupid. So here's where I'm going with this. What do I say to that young lady? Anyone who does that to you isn't someone you want to be associated with anyway. The world is so fucked up. people are so hurt by people that they don't even want to be associated with. When people hurt me, like when people are trolling in here, or when people talk shit about me in real life, or are rude to me in person, I'm happy because they saved me time. Time is my biggest asset. Not even now when I'm a big dog.

16:59When I was a kid, time is the asset. I don't understand this incredible thirst. of the insecure to try to convince the broken. If there is a man who is not willing to invest in a startup because the founder is a female, he's fucking stupid. The fuck are you trying to fix the broken when it has nothing to do with you? If that was your dad, I get the energy. But if it's a random investor, why are you fucking so caught up? And this is a trait, you know, this is just a trait of a human And again, it's not just girls. I have so many female founder friends. I'm an investor in so many female companies.

17:43Like when I'm in girl talk mode, if I'm hanging with like four girls, business life, but it bleeds into like, I find myself in this setting, probably occasionally, probably often by guy standards. I'm probably more often than a lot of my contemporaries. I'm the only guy in a five person table with four other women talking business shit. So inevitably, this will make sense to everybody, after we're done with business shit, it just gets into real life stuff. And I recommend to all guys to have a group of girlfriends because it's really funny listening to girls shit on guys. It's quite enjoyable actually.

18:22But I look at these women, some of the women that I'm referring to right now in the last couple years in these meetings are just such gangsters in business and are such fucking idiots in relationships, and they figured out in business not to appease a toxic investor or just an idiot guy, but in love, they're just chasing the bad boy, like dumb shit. Like women are obsessed with fuckboys in a way that makes no sense other than if you just understand raw human energy, which I do understand, so it does make sense. But it's the analogy I can use for everyone to really get everybody to understand what I'm trying to say here, which is why are you wasting your time on someone that doesn't believe in you?

19:04Who gives a shit? You know, Gretchen says women are fixers, they think. And listen, I'm a fixer. My worst behaviors as a human is the cliche female fixer thing. I'm a fixer. I try to fix. Everyone. It's my biggest flaw. I have superhero syndrome. I create entitlement because of it. The thing I hate the most in the world, I create. This is like a superhero shit. Like I literally create through my enable it, the thing I hate the most. You know, I like a good project to fix too. So I understand that fixer energy. So anyway, nonetheless, what was the question? What advice would you give to women in entrepreneurship compared to men?

19:47Nothing different. I really, I mean it. And yes, it is women, news alert for everyone, women and men are different. The game is different, but it's not different enough that the core answer to her question is and does require a change. Entrepreneurship is kind of really cool. It's like sports, right? I'm looking at a woman right now. Her name is Courtney. We play basketball together a lot. When me and Courtney are on the court, she can tell you whether I'm her teammate or her competitor. I do not treat her any different. Like, back to advice. Me and Courtney were just in a really rugged five game set the other day where our team was really undersized and like we should have lost.

20:25and we did lose all five games, but they were all tight, which I was proud of our team on. But like when I'm running back after we score, when I'm like court, play D, it's the same way I said it to Xander to play D and the same way that I said it to Rips to play D, because we're playing sports. That's right, I do foul the same, which is inappropriate. Like don't tell them about that part of court. But I foul court just as hard as I foul Andy, who's like four times the size. And it's because it's sports, we're on the field now, Now it is what is court decided to play. And court can play. And that's the same way I feel about a female entrepreneur.

21:02You decided to be an entrepreneur, and then good news, this is why I think a lot of women love entrepreneurship, because it does have a level of merit that jobs don't. Jobs are tough. See, what's cool about entrepreneurship is the market decides.

21:20Melanie Perkins from Canva has built one of the biggest companies in the world. many people didn't believe that she could. They were wrong. And there's eight million of her. So I love entrepreneurship for that reason, that it doesn't know if you're black, white, Hispanic or Russian, girl, boy, it's just a blank market. And are there people in the world that will judge on that? Of course. I don't know if you've heard, humans are insecure. When you're insecure, you tear down other people. So if you feel shit about yourself, you think it's all women's problems. You think it's all immigrants' problems.

21:59You think it's all politicians' problems. You think it's your parents are the problem. All of you that talk shit 24 seven about politics and go on social media and tear down people, you're a bitch.

22:17I'm going for dramatic pause because 99 % of you just got called a bitch because you are a bitch. You're a fucking bitch. Thank you. Next question. We'll get to Melanie V shortly, but next question in the chat. Daniela asks, what would you suggest I do in this situation? I sit at a table with 20 people and everyone has someone to talk to and I realize I'm alone. Nobody talks to me. What's your advice? You need to work on yourself. You're deeply insecure. What do you mean everybody has someone to talk to and you don't. Have you ever thought about the fact that half, if not more of those people were the ones that started the conversation?

22:55What are you doing? Go say hi. What are you scared of? Someone's gonna be like, you're ugly, you're a nerd, don't talk to me? For what? Do you actually believe in a table of 20 people that if you go up and say hello, you know, what's going on? Like, how's your day? Like, what's the deal? What do you think about the Jets upcoming season? Like, do you think you will go over 20 and everybody will shit on you? she's scared of people people are scared of people people are scared of people when they're insecure she needs to become a bigger fan of herself I do not understand this my friends I need to say this from the bottom of my fucking heart I do not understand the concept of not being your biggest fan I do not understand it you have to please please Why would you not like yourself?

23:47What, you're gonna say that you're not pretty, you're not smart, you don't have money, you're not charismatic? Like I'm so many things that I'm not. I can't fucking read. That's, like Court, do you understand that I can't read? Like I can, but like I don't retain it. I have no reading comprehension. Like do you know how many people have just decided they're dumb and it's over because of that?

24:14Like Mike, sorry that you're not George Clooney, but that doesn't mean you're a piece of shit. You know what I mean? You understand what I'm saying, right Mike? Right, get over here Mike. You might not be George Clooney, but watch this. Do you know how many people, look at this. Look at this cute fucking face, give me a smile. Look at this. Hi guys. I mean, do you know how many people find you adorable? Plenty. Plenty of people are like, nah, that's not my style. but plenty of people like literally, people are like, yo, I wanna date that dude right now. Literally that just happened. That's how it actually works.

24:45I do not understand. I do not understand. Right, look, Danny producing says, I would date Mike. You know? Like, I just, you know, people are saying that you're more beautiful than George. I actually believe that. I understand that most of the eight billion people on earth will say George Clooney's better looking than you, but it's very clear to me that tens of thousands of people would think that you're better than George. And there's something really important in what I just said. I believe that out of eight billion people, if I did a hot or not competition, swipe left, right, versus old school, like who's better looking, Mike versus George Clooney, I believe that Clooney would win a lot.

25:38A lot. Dramatically. 90 percentile. I believe that to be true. Of course, same against me too. But I do believe that there are tens of thousands. Think about this. This is really an important moment. I know people are laughing. But there are tens of thousands of people that would find you dramatically more attractive. And I think that's the lesson here. Like,

26:12I just don't understand this concept of people deciding that they suck. For what? For why? For how? There's nothing good about that. So this woman is deeply insecure, has no self-worth,

26:29is protecting herself because she's scared that people are gonna hurt her with rejection, which I get. But people have to start surrounding themselves with positive content. If they can afford it, start going to therapy. If they can afford it, start investing in things that build up their self-esteem. That might be working out. that might be eating better, that might be exercising, that might be reading. I really am very big on surrounding yourself with like real good energy. Like it's very obvious to me. That is like as big and real to me as it gets, who you're with, you know? You know, so that's what I got.

27:19Melanie V. Hello. Hi, darling. Hi, Gary. How are you? nice to meet you nice to meet you too where are you from i'm from the philippines i'm it's amazing what is your question darling um i'm 23 um i dream of becoming a pop girl group member and um k-pop agencies just want younger trainees and um wait let me get my no worries no worries at all take your time don't worry um and there's also my parents expectations because i graduated magma hum laude and they expect me to go to a big company and apply there and they are also overprotective so they want me to work nearby for a couple of months before I work in a far place.