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34:22This week's Good, the Bad and the Football is brought to you by Sky. And I tell you what, lads, Christmas is round the corner, which means Christmas films. Firstly, if you sat down with the kids, what's your go-to? Christmas film. Elf all day long. See, I've not seen it yet. I quite like The Grinch as well. With the kids.

34:43Paddy McGuinness:Nativity. Nativity is funny. Really. You've never seen that, have you? No. Have you seen it, Nativity? No. It's brilliant. I don't think it was. Great. Unbelievable. And then The Holiday. A little romantic one, The Holiday Padre. It's a right romantic sod, isn't it? Oh, he's a romantic boy, yeah. Nicky Buck, the hard man of British football. No, it's a good film. I like Jack Black. I like Jack Black. You're a lover, aren't you, Nick? Oh. No. Yeah. Do you know what I like and all at Christmas? I love a classic. I love Star Wars. The original. That's not Christmas. Of course, it's a Christmas film.

35:16Paddy McGuinness:Fucking don't see Darth Vader. Don't see Darth Vader with White Bear, do you? Fucking Star Wars. You've got to think outside the box. Are you taking the piss? Star Wars and Superman. The original. It's always on Christmas Day. I like you. Yeah, but they're not Christmas films, are they? no but you watch them at Christmas and as well what's the other one and you'll probably have a go at me for this Rocky no not Rocky Jurassic Park it's a great one with your family on Christmas day horrendous what's the one with Cameron Diaz and

35:51Paddy McGuinness:comedy something about Mary no the Christmas one when she gets a little house and stays in the little village that's the bloody holiday what you're on about that's the one yeah it's on about the city That's the film you're talking about. He's asking me if you watched it. Have you seen it? It's The Cottage with Jude Law. Yeah, that's the one, Jude Law. Yeah, that's the one. Jack Black. No, that's the same film. School of Rock. It is. Jack Black's not in that one. He is. Well, you said you loved Jack Black out of the holiday. Jude Law, Cameron Diaz, Jack Black and Kate Winslet. That's the holiday.

36:24You're right, yeah. And they do the house swap. Sky Cinema have got some belters this year. Polar Express. Great film. Great film. Elf Karate Kid Legends We like a bit of that Bit of martial arts On Christmas Day And from Boxing Day Oh scary one this

36:38Paddy McGuinness:Sinners And movies don't come much bigger Than Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning With Tom Cruise Which you can watch As part of the Sky Cinema Friday Club Speaking of Mission Impossible What was the biggest Mission Impossible During your football careers Arsenal semi-final Where Giggsie scored the goal Yeah Arsenal were a fantastic team Keeney our best player gets sent off down at 10 men I think that was a definitely a mission some summer on that chest as well yeah velcro chess when it proper velcro track chest was that yours was that yours yeah what was the game the Champions League like I didn't play by you might have done the Champions League final yeah I'm sick of talking about that we always talk about that don't we was the Champions League final the one to get the treble or was it the FA Cup no Champions League so how did it work did it go League FA Cup Champions League Saturday, Saturday, Wednesday or Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday probably the best 10 days of my life yeah stay with you forever those memories phenomenal can't remember much of it if you went to the good the bad and the football Ball's Instagram page this Friday.

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38:04Paddy McGuinness:the Final Reckoning from Friday on Sky Cinema. So it's £6 million plus Keith Gillespie. At the time, that was like a record feat. It's amazing, isn't it, when you look at the money that goes around now. And you're like, so I put£6 million, but that was like record signing at the time did you feel the pressure with that price tag yeah kind of like but I went in blind as well you know because I didn't understand just how big Manchester United was so I went in there with the same mindset right I mean I left Arsenal when I was a kid I mean gone to Bristol City just get my head down I want to prove everyone wrong at Arsenal go there go to Newcastle I want to prove people wrong who said ah he's not good enough to go to Newcastle and I went to Man United think that I'll just do exactly the same thing, you know.

38:56Not realising just how big Manchester night was and what Manchester night was about. So it took me a little bit of time to adjust, I'm not going to sit and try and flannel it. How did it all happen, Colin? Because you know, like illegal approaches and all that stuff. Did you speak to the manager beforehand? No, I never spoke to the manager, never spoke to him. Before you signed? Never, seriously, never spoke to him. Incy always used to bang on about it, you know, when I was in the England squad or whatever maybe and that was it and I was thinking it's never going to happen but like I said never spoke to the manager season yeah season before me and the manager had a little fallout and I think Kevin Keegan yeah Kevin kind of like never let it go it's not like you to fall out with managers no you're not you're not that really surprises me that's your make up I speak my mind every now and then as you knew I was just a quiet guy and then if someone pissed me off I'd let them know you know but what happened what pissed you off with him can you say it yeah yeah we played Southampton and you know back in those days it was a coach journey oh yeah so it was a coach journey from that must be 8 hours from Southampton that's a 6 hour job isn't it it was crazy yeah yeah and then we played midweek against I think it was Wimbledon in the League Cup, lost to Southampton, went up to London and then come out for a warm down on Monday morning or whatever it was.

40:28And I remember Kevin said, hi, morning, Coley. How are you feeling? I just said, I'm a bit tired today. So he said to me, do you want to train? I said, well, don't mind. So he said, kind of like on the lines of the floor, if you don't want to train, you can fuck off. It's one of them questions, a little loaded question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wants the right answer. Yeah, I mean. But he's not getting it from you. He's getting the truth, isn't he? exactly so I said that and then he said to me I'll give it an hour to the guy and he said that so I said not a problem I truly obliged and fucked off but do you know what do you know what remember that now he said yeah but it's what you touched on before sorry wait a minute you fucked off what do you just go on yeah you know what yeah but it's that it's what you were saying before though with managers if certain players aren't brilliant trainers but they're delivering on the pitch surely as a manager you go well Luke well that's what I mean you've got to put up with all different types of players haven't you you just haven't that's what our manager was good at he knew people who needed to train he knew people who would be ready for a Saturday whatever he did through the week so when you when you left training that day did you go home thinking right alright you've had a bit of a spat with the manager were you already thinking with me yeah when it happened yeah I don't give a fuck no no what I'm saying no no no I'm not saying that no no no what I'm saying is when you went home were you already thinking I'm going to be leaving here or did you just think alright it is what it is you know I the way I've been brought up here my mum has always said to me speak in mind if you feel frustrated speak in mind so that's what I do everyone knows I'm quiet I'm very quiet you know but nine times out of ten I get on with people I'm just quite individual yeah so someone says something it pisses me off I get it off my chest and as far as I'm concerned I've got it off my chest yeah when it happened I got it off my chest um obviously my ex-wife at the time went round to hers and I remember her saying to me what happened I said I he told me to fuck off and I remember I remember saying so I did yeah and I remember her saying to me Andrew you're always falling out of people I remember saying well not okay it's falling out of people somebody's taking a piss and I've just decided I'm not having it you know and I just basically I stayed with Irv what for four days I think it was right yeah and I really had no intentions of saying oh yeah I need to go back to Newcastle I was just like well I'll wait for him to phone me or apologise or whatever and everyone was saying oh I've walked out and all that kind of stuff that wasn't the case I just decided to do what I wanted to do yeah so a circle was all that around your move then to United so that that kind of happened after that yeah So when you look at situations now in the modern game, with that in mind, just looking at Slott with Salah, what's happened, do you think that's, and none of us know exactly what's gone on, what they've said to each other behind the scenes, do you think it's repairable that, because he were on the bench the other day and he came on early doors, do you think after AFCON he carries on at Liverpool or is it like that's done?

43:39I think everything's repairable. Yeah. It just depends on the two individuals, you know? And that's why when I got asked this question previously, I turned and said, we don't know the circumstance. We don't know what's gone on previously. We don't know what's going on. Yeah, we can all have an opinion about it. Of course we can, but we don't know what's going on, you know? So I'm not going to turn and say, oh, Salah's a bad individual or Slot's a bad individual. Falling out. Yeah. Can you repair it? If you really want to repair it, it can be repaired. if you're going to do it you do it but they don't want me coating each another off or people out there saying oh he's this or he's that we don't know what's going on because I've been in that position as well and I'm turning around and saying to myself well outside looking in something's gone on yeah but we don't know what do you think about with the way you dealt with it because that is something you'd never do would you you'd just go and see the manager we spoke about it already didn't you if you've got a problem going to see the manager and that is something you'd do yeah yeah yeah you just go and thrash it out with him.

44:39Yeah. What do you think about the way you did it? I think most of his emotions are running high. And when I say you don't know what's going on, you don't know what's going on for the last 10 days, two weeks or whatever previously. Why he's been sitting on the bench the last couple of games. You know, that could have been a big lead up to the situation as well. I mean, but like Scott's touched on, I wouldn't have gone public like that. I prefer to have a tell with the manager in his office. Yeah. You know, and then we go from there.

45:05Paddy McGuinness:Yeah. To be fair though, it is good that, whatever's happened there it seems to have been sorted a little bit so that he actually played another game where it's his last game or not even though we're not Liverpool fans to see Mo Salah who's done so much for that football club go on the pitch again with the kit on the fans only did the applause that he got says that but yeah you like Colise says no one knows what's going on so what happened after that training ground sort of issue if you like and you went away and then you had a few days there. Did someone from the club pick the phone up to you or did you just go back and just carry on as normal as though?

45:43What happened after that? Obviously, the guy who used to look after me at the time called me out and said, look, you need to go back. And I was like, I'm not going back. Freddie Shep, who's no longer with us, spoke to Freddie. Come on, Coli, you need to come back. You need to sort all this out. And I had a great relationship with Shep as well, you know. so I went back and I mean we all thrashed it all out I think I went back for instance the Thursday had the meeting the Thursday night trained the Friday morning played the set they scored the set and I thought oh I'll just get on with it now yeah you know but it was never never the same after that yeah just think about that Kola so you fell out with him and did he he must have gone on to be the England manager after that yeah yeah yeah so did that affect your relationship no no was he alright with it?

46:32Yeah, he was fine with it. You know, the crazy thing, when I was at Newcastle and I wasn't getting in the England squad, even when I was playing well, scoring goals, I mean, Kevin was a big advocate for me, saying that, I can't believe you can't get in the England squad anyway, for what you're doing, scoring goals, doing what you're supposed to be doing. So it was never a problem, never a problem. See, I think if you're a manager, you've got to look at what the player's doing on the pitch, whether you get on brilliantly or not with them or not. If I'm England manager and I've got an English player who's scoring 30-odd goals a season, whether I think he's any good in training or I've had an issue, surely you're getting him in the squad.

47:12I agree. I just wondered if it affected the relationship further down the line at all. You know what's interesting and all, what you said before, which these two have said in the past, which really, again, when you're not involved in football and you're looking at it and all the things that you read in the press and everything else and you think it's done a certain way, just what you were saying about Inclos, at England talking about United these are said the same like the amount of stuff when you're in an England squad and that camp and you're going fancy playing for us or such a body it's amazing that goes on like you presume it's all agents and everything else but it's like other players ringing you up or chatting to you about stuff I don't know if it happened to you but the amount of times people said to me did your gaffer want me to play for you I'll come and sign for you yeah we need to go away yeah I'll sign it is crazy that so what did he say to you was he like Luke he always just say look the manager really fancies you he wants you to come to Manchester United and I always say he's got no chance you know what I mean why is Kevin going to sell me yeah I just kept saying that he said nah nah would you come I said look if the opportunity arose it's something that you've got to look at yeah you know I think when you're playing football and you're at the highest level as far as I'm concerned you want to be competing for major awards honest people might look at different say no i don't play football to win well why'd you play it you know so yeah that was always in my mindset but once kevin made a decision to sell me you know it's not for me to stick around then no and i've always said that to people as well once a manager makes a decision to move you on you know his decision is made it's no different than a relationship basically yeah once someone decides to move on you move on that's it yeah you know you can try and get yourself back in there but it's never the same it's never gonna work i remember

49:02Paddy McGuinness:when coley first come and um he was cuptied remember he was cuptied he was cuptied in the fa cup cup tied wasn't it so and i was suspended oh god we're gonna go out we're gonna go and see the sights we're gonna go and see the sights went to living room living room Jesus Christ Coley's a new signing I'm obviously suspended I've been playing so we're in there having a great night and Jim Ryan who was our old coach great bloke Jim looks over and goes like this stares at us Coley's going what's he staring at me and I'm like it's alright Jim comes up walking it was a Friday night bearing in mind game was on a Saturday but suspended, can't play, cuptide, comes home and says, what the hell are you two doing here right before a game?

49:56Paddy McGuinness:And Colin's going, and I'm going, Jim, I'm suspended. And Jim goes, yeah, what are you doing in here? And he's gone, I'm cuptide. And he's gone, right, well, no one around here knows that. Everyone's looking at you drinking. You all think you're playing tomorrow and you, Colin, and I'm thinking, he's a record, British record signing, Jim Ryan's having a pop at him. and literally we both walk out of the bar like this we've been kicked out of the bar like year 25 I was 23 I'll never forget that absolutely it was like a wake up call I've been in Newcastle I've obviously played there it's a small little place Manchester's a bit bigger than gold places but Jim was right back then it was a learning curve for us he's too fucking risk with Corley aren't he he could have gone fuck this I'm off Corley didn't speak to him for 12 years goodnight but we're straight we'll get home straight to the press club don't worry we found another I was going to say that yeah what was Jim doing there to be fair the game day after no well they used to all go and play five a side on a Friday all the other players and stuff and they'd have a few beers and Jim was like a bit of jackalad one of you likes a night out Jim but I forget he stared storming over to us get out you're a disgrace I'm thinking am I 16 here anyway the living room that used to be the place to go back in the day never wouldn't I don't know I never went yeah exactly that what was so when the deal was done when you first met Sir Alex what did he say to you what were the conversations oh man basically talking about Man United what Man United is all about and what he thought I could bring to the team it was brief to be fair very brief I mean I was just thinking about wow joining Man United like I touched on previously just saying to myself a couple of years ago I'm watching all these guys Monday night I'm sitting down to watch these guys and then I'm going to be training with them in a couple of days or whatever maybe so yeah it was it was surreal very very surreal and when for you lads when someone comes in who's like job it is to score goals at a club what do you do anything different with strikers or centre forwards do you sort of speak to them differently do you kind of get into I fucking look he's already smiling like what do you do as a post-it when you sign a defender if I was a manager I'd have 16 centre forwards I just fucking love them they win you games of football they do Coley York fucking load they win get the ball to them it's easy especially when I was Man United it's like it didn't really matter to me who came in I had the same feeling as when he came in as to when Yap Stam came in if they're big characters and big players it was brilliant for us as a squad even you know even Viron coming from Viron was going to probably take any chance of me playing again at Man United away because he was that good but I didn't sit there sulking about it it was like he was another unbelievable character and player coming to our squad and before you know it you build this squad I bet Kohli never got told that when he signed for Man United that we're going to have four strikers Kohli and you're all going to fight out for yourself he would have been sold that

53:13Paddy McGuinness:position, you shouldn't be playing at a big club and that's what gets me, you have to understand that, you're not the be or end all of a football club no matter if you're Paul Scholes Andy Cole, Roy Keane whoever it might be, you've got to get challenged and that keeps you on your toes, it makes you a better player and trust me in training from Monday to Thursday Friday's got a little bit slower, but from Monday to Thursday you're not getting 95 % of your games in any Premier League game or Championship games, you're not getting challenged on a Saturday like you are doing from Monday to Thursday and that only happens with right good players and good guys and good teammates in your squad and they bring you on I know for a fact if I I was very lucky as a footballer I was of a certain level if I'd have been playing at a championship team I might have just dropped down dropped down dropped down dropped down because I didn't have the kind of talent that's Coley had to go up from League 2 but when you're playing with better players they bring you on so much better I remember my dad saying to me my dad was semi-professional football way back when I remember him saying to me when you play and you get into the first team you'll be a much better player because people will see you running people will see you when you want to receive the ball people will know where to pass it to you so I look at we watch a lot of League 2 players and you can see the ones you're looking at them you're thinking he's either going to play in the championship in the next five years or he'll drop out of football because some people have a different mindset and I think that's what getting back to what we said a minute ago with Man United when you bring players in like him like a Yapstam like a Roy Keane like our Eric Cantor all these players only improve you as a player and I hate it when I hear about people getting sulky in squads because ex-players come in to take his place it can only improve you this episode is brought to you by Fox One watch all 104 matches of the FIFA World Cup live in 4k for just$19.99 a month with three days free build your own multi-view choose up to three streams and follow player spotlights Stay on top of every moment with live stats, highlights, and instant replays.

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57:27Paddy McGuinness:Our link also gives you four extra months on the two-year plan. there's no risk with Nard's 30 day money back guarantee the link is in the podcast episode description box speaking of nights out and having a bit of fun as well as playing the game it's on here I didn't know about this 99 you had a trip to Australia I know nothing yeah it says funny enough I didn't go on this yeah I told you that three hours Alex Ferguson was getting he was getting nighted at the time what was it like on a tour of Australia without Sir Alex there was it like teachers teachers gone we've got that wasn't the case what we always had back in the day was we had a big brilliant squad that worked the nuts off and they'd do it right but the manager would always give us one night out on a tour all the time it was like given you work hard lads you train a night you can have a night out give us that wherever we went in the world and this time was obviously Australia so we have a night out the only thing with with with Australia was the curfew got a bit a bit shaky what was the one what curfew because the mind was there but the funniest one of the funniest things I've ever seen in football on a pre-season tour was we all go out you know you get up next morning all a bit rope a bit rough I mean I got in it 12 I mean these lads were out till 5 and 6 12 English time yeah I'll never forget it was in this like training complex and it was like loads of walls around it so you could it's very echoey like the coach would be shouting what?

59:05Paddy McGuinness:the coach would be shouting get here getting an echo round off the wall so anyway we're doing this stretch and we're doing a warm up and a stretch and Yorkie's on the floor doing a thigh stretch one leg in front of you you've got your thigh behind you like this and you're next to me we're all stretching and you just see you just see Cody go like that and his neck's gone back he's in the stretch it's like some yoga stretch He just did. Oh, my God. And literally, Steve McLaren was going, his head's going red and red. His ears are coming. Steve's going out his ears going, we all stand up to go running around to do another jog after one.

59:41Paddy McGuinness:And it's cold. He's still in the middle of the centre. George York is still in the middle of the centre. No. And what I'm saying, they're coming. Steve's, and the press are all like, they're like, and Steve's going, someone, get that fucker up. Anyway, long story short, he gets up. They might just come over the thing, didn't they? He flew out Did he? No he didn't Did he not fly out? Anyway He got absolutely I think he got two weeks Where he's firing the lot But it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen How you fall asleep How you even getting that stretch I don't know Yeah But he fell asleep Right back in the full thigh stretch Snoring Was that after the night At Star City?

1:00:13Paddy McGuinness:I can't remember Was it Star City? One of those Oh it was Two There was Star City And there was What was the other one? The one in Melbourne And one in Sydney The casino That night we went out That was at the casino Yeah The club was at the top of the casino. Yeah, that was that night. I mean, I don't know. If we were training 10 o 'clock, for instance, I don't think our first turn out to about 7, 8 o 'clock. What, people were coming back in at 7, 8 o 'clock? We were. That's very unprofessional. No, we're not. We're not. We're not. What you do the next morning, you just grit your teeth, get through training, get back in.

1:00:49Paddy McGuinness:Sweat it out, yeah. To fall asleep, I mean, it was so funny. I mean, it was one of the funniest things. what are you looking at what are you looking at you don't say anything I think that's why people love Dwight York no no no he was on the spirits yeah yeah I was always on the spirits but I mean I always like Yorkie would come in with a shot tray on his head who's that Yorkie and we'd all be sat there and he'd come up like this with a big smile and he'd go like that and you'd take a shot off him and he'd go like that he was such Oh, he was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. That's why I was saying, I think, you know, football fans love players like Yorkie because of that.

1:01:33Because he played in the right spirit as well.

1:01:35Paddy McGuinness:Phenomenal footballer. Yeah. But he said something to me once and I was looking at him thinking, why are you like this, Yorkie? You've got your dream job, you're playing at Man United, you could be here for 10, 15 years. You know, he said to me, he said, Nick, I used to walk seven miles to school from where I lived and after school I'd go and swim in the sea and I'd go fishing. he just now he's living the life that he never thought he'd probably have and just enjoying it and I'll be honest with you some of the stuff I did when I was growing up playing football I wish I'd have enjoyed it a little bit more because I didn't you could never change you could never change the happiest man in the world playing football although he probably should have played for a lot longer than he at the highest level but you'd never change him so if he got a bollock would he just be like oh what smile sorry gaff sorry gaff got a shot

1:02:26that's brilliant well he was talking a few back you were on a tour I think you were out in Brazil and they went hand gliding you went up as well but you just you pulled out last minute I pulled out you know what I pulled out yeah it was Friday the 13th told you told you you know what you're saying I told you he was all walking up he was all having a laugh and joke I don't know I said, no, what day is it? It's Friday, I'm walking up, talking, blah, blah, looking forward to it. No, man, no, man, I'm going. He said, no, man, no, man. I'm out of here. I went, we're out of here.

1:03:00Paddy McGuinness:He's been, we've got about 20 minutes. He's gone. No, man. No, you're going to see. Not doing it all right. It's Friday the 30th. Turn it on and walk down. I won't get any involved in that. I would not get any involved. I mean, I remember when I went back down, sitting down with the lads and that, and then, right, he comes over, he kills. and I'm sitting myself you fucking idiot and you're going who does that who does that Gaffer was saying oh that's none of the players by the way did you have any superstitions of the player calling you talking about the 13th put my shorts on last I always remember just thinking about it you never went out to warm up did you no I'm not doing that shit never went out to warm up you see every player now I'm doing the but remember when we first did it you were allowed to do what you want, we used to fuck about.

1:03:49What, and the warm-up? But Colin never ever came out. He's just pretending he's doing it in the fucking dressing room. Yeah, in the little career he used to have that little extra run, didn't he? What was the reason of that? You just know, Luke, I'm going to deliver once I get over that line and it starts at the beginning of the 90 minutes, you just knew what you wanted to do. You didn't have to warm up. I couldn't be arsed. Yeah, I had to keep my energy. Right, so you got to know something.

1:04:12Paddy McGuinness:When we got to the end of the football, the warm-ups, you're the right blow, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. I've probably done 2k in a warm-up. For me, I'm just like, I can keep my energy, because I know it's going to be a tough game, period. So warming up for me was like, do your thing, concentrate on the game, what you're looking to do within the first... I always knew what I wanted to do within the first 5-10 minutes. Yeah. Did you do that at every club you was at, Colby? Yeah. Did you end up warming up ever towards the end? I think when I got older, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But when I was at that age, I'm like, seriously, what am I going out to warm-up for?

1:04:46get a dab on come back in cool down I couldn't get my head around it you never see a tiger warm up in the jungle do you? he's just been reading his books when he comes on GPT

1:05:06in the modern game which current striker would you most like to play up front with? bearing in mind I know everything you've said about the modern game and what have you, you're not really feeling it but if you could pick anyone now who would you play up front with? Do you prefer the number 10 or a number 9 and a half? 9 and a half. The modern game. Anyone in the mode, I said I'm sport. In the mode, Bjorky, Peter, Eric, Sparky, I mean, when I look at the game now, you see no figures like that. Yeah. So when you touch on who would I like to play out front with now, there's no one that actually stands out.

1:05:54Harry Kane, what about him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think with Harry, what he's good at now, because he knows he's losing that lack of pace, so he drops deep and gets on it and gets shots off and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. You know? If you look at football in general, if you sit here thinking now, what number 9's come to mind or number 10

1:06:16Paddy McGuinness:it's only Highland for me that comes to mind exactly and you think when you were playing the number 9's Jesus Christ it was ridiculous the number you can name 10 now you're looking to get 3 or 4 what amazes me is you never used to take penalties no it's fucking rubbish and that's probably why that's mind blowing that's mind blowing for someone who's good in front of the net as you it just for me would be like you'd be number one I'm just going to say it wouldn't be fifth no it'd be top but I'm telling you something it's a bit like both of them and I joke about this but they're both very instinctive players and when you've got he was shit at penalties as well weren't you he was not great at penalties was you oh shit and I don't joke about Cole I don't even have seen him tech one but when you're an instinctive player like that you do things in split seconds not even a second like micro seconds 0.5 boom boom boom when you sat on a penalty and you're sitting there thinking I'd imagine they'd be thinking it's too long this it's too long for it it's fake in their games and I've seen him score goals and I've seen him score goals all my life most of it was instinctive wasn't it we just hit it I was alright kicking the ball technically oh technically it was the best strike in the ball but I never took corners never took free kicks never took penalties too much time once I had to think about something my fucking head was fried do you know when I look at Coley so I'm going to ask you a question Coley what's your favourite goal from Man United I was going to say that I've got one in my head I've got one in my head Have you got one in your head?

1:07:45And I can see it now I'm not United I reckon ours are the same One minute Let Colley choose this You know what I go for now Who's your top three Colley? My top three? Oh wow Here we go Just Man United Top three Tottenham Old Trafford Obviously when we're going to win the league Yeah The chip Was you on the bench first for that? Yeah So is that what made it more special? No, no, no. I was just thinking team. Yeah, yeah. This is about us now. That was treble time, wasn't it? Yeah. We've got overhead kick against Marseille. Yep. Stratford end. This is a kick. Yep.

1:08:27Paddy McGuinness:We've got one to get mine. We've got one left to get mine. None of them, that's not any of mine. I've got a slightly mine either. I've got a dink. That's mine. The dink. You took it out, you dinks anyway. And the post in the post. Against? I think it was Everton, I think it was. Oh, the chip? Yeah, the little one. Oh yeah, from the edge of the box. Yeah. But when I look at... I've got two, I've just got the other one. The one in Barcelona, we all came out. Oh, over, over, yeah. Fuck me. That is just... And at the Nou Camp, yeah, I didn't think about that. What a goal. And, again, just when you score a goal at like, just, I know that you were saying the one about Everton, no disrespect to Everton, but when it's against Barcelona at the Nou Camp, I mean, I would have been walking around with a fucking hard-on.

1:09:08But the thing about it, yeah, You don't know how much that brings joy to your teammates as well because when your teammates see it, they're like, fuck it, you know. It was pissed. Oh, your next one? My next one, my other one, what I was thinking of first, was Newcastle at home. Oh, when it was freezing cold. Around boxing. No, it was freezing cold. It was freezing cold, right, and sometimes Old Trafford, although I'd under-soil eating, it used to get a little bit crusty. Yeah. And he side-footed one against Newcastle in that far corner. it just zipped across it yeah I love that goal calling I think that's my favorite yeah I was member cold as well doing yeah um bro all the way down there

1:09:50Paddy McGuinness:with the red read the Reeboks with the red if I was gonna draw a difficult draw a picture of calling that I'd be at the red Reebok boots yeah that goal yeah it's just that technique the outside of the foot but you want to you have to like curl it that way didn't you know I mean yeah it's against Newcastle as well I was going to say, what's it like scoring against a former club? For me? Yeah. It's part of the job, man. Yeah, yeah. It just didn't matter who they were. That's why you train all week. Scores your touch. You train all week to play. As a goal scorer, you train all week to play, but to score as well.

1:10:24Why are you not going to celebrate? Yeah, yeah. I just remembered another goal, Chelsea away. Was it Desai who was trying to chase you down the line? Oh, yeah, yeah. And you just fucking took him and put him in the top corner.

1:10:35Paddy McGuinness:forget how quick call he was yeah forget how quick call he was don't you you never ran that much you don't fucking know you've never even seen it did you never known again best finisher you played with oh period Robbie Fowler yeah Robbie said that on the podcast didn't you you said that as well Robbie was a joke yeah and I mean a joke it is amazing because I got a sense of that off Robbie when you were on about when you talk about like you know top top players in the game as goal scorers funnily enough he was in an era where because of knowing social media and everything else he doesn't seem to get the props now weirdly you don't hear his name bang bang if he was playing now you probably look we all knew how fucking good he was playing now he'd probably be more out there but as we said before with Kohler there was that many fucking unbelievable centre forwards yeah Cole Shearer Ferdinand Sheringham York Ian Wright Ian Wright I mean Wrighty there's so many Colin Moore Colin Moore yeah Andy Ritchie but are they all English as well Andy Ritchie Frank all of them eight are English name English strikers now to explain in England and that's probably why the likes of Coley and Robbie and certain other players they didn't get the 80, 90 caps now the 80 90 100 caps yeah it's just just talking about sort of English players and World Cup's around the corner when you look at someone like an Ollie Watkins when you when you have a season where you're really prolific scoring goals I nearly I thought I get it out before he corrects me what what happens because he's obviously got a good manager there and a good team Villa like what happens with a striker like what what is it because the squad's not changed drastically with you know how they play what why do you just suddenly go off the boil like what is it in a striker's mentality when that's happening he wouldn't know would he yeah I think sometimes you know when you do go a few games without scoring goals you do question yourself you know and if I if I sit here and look at Olly Watkins I was thinking to myself there's times that he's going away from what he's good at you know and then you start deciding right I'm going to start running down the channel a little bit more because you know everyone looks at me and says oh he's working really hard the chance will come you know stick to basics if this is your game bang this is what I'm going to do it's going to come I might get one off my knee but it's going to come but sometimes you revert to doing like I've got to work a little bit harder because that's why I'm back in the team the manager put me in the team so I've got to do a little bit of this keep running in the box keep doing the same thing when you were training Colley and you had your finish did you have like one or two or three my thought looking at you from a distance would be you'd have three different finishes that you'd always do yeah always so it'd be a side foot always in the corner a little dink or I've never seen you want to like just smash in one I mean Newcastle did quite a few like smashes I always remember a few don't I was in the near post in the top corner you just fucking talked in that but did you have that in your mindset in your head enough of centre forwards did you say right I'm going to practice three finishes ten each time what was you going for your mindset I always had a picture so my picture was yeah wherever the goalkeeper was set yeah I know what I'm going to do so if he comes out like this okay I know I can roll it to your left or right yeah if you come out real quick I know I can go high yeah I mean so it all depends on what the picture is for me and if you were talking to like Vont or young centre forward have a picture would you have a picture of like one two three or just react to the goalkeeper have a picture whatever if a goalkeeper comes I know bang there you go yeah like Schmeich used to come out and spread himself so I'm saying to myself if I can roll it in between your legs you'll jump in like that I find that unbelievable Oli Gunnar says that about the legs I find that mindset really like fascinating especially in the moment because for me when I was playing football I never had that time to think like that I wouldn't know that I'd do that I was just going to say that I always thought it was the best centre forward it was the best goal scorers everything when that chance comes it almost becomes slow motion and you know exactly what the right finish is.

1:14:57Mentality is unbelievable. Just because it flies, honestly, I've got so many more questions for you, but just a couple because we're getting to the end. A defender you used to come up against when you saw they were playing, you used to think it's going to be a tough day to see. It was all tough. Really? Yeah, it was all tough. I get asked this question all the time. I always say, when you're at that level, no one's going to give you a free ride. Yeah. so it's for me to respect them for them to respect me but it's going to be a good battle

1:15:27Paddy McGuinness:yeah and that's the way I always viewed it you know looking back obviously he's got his answer but I'd look at that and I used to always the battles they used to have up top look at the Arsenal lads like Big Sol you'd have Tony Adams you'd have Mike and Key on you don't see them now do you you don't see honest to God it was like you're watching anything it was brilliant to watch back then just before we finish if you took penalties out of the top five all-time Premier League goal scorers, you'd be number two, pal. Going from five to two. Behind? So, behind Shearer. Shearer's number one. So, you'd have been 18 goals behind Shearer.

1:16:06But it's interesting how many goals they, all them top five scored with penalties. So, if you'd say that, you'd have been number two all-time goal scorer. It'd be interesting to know, and some stats will probably know it, how many penalties we had while he was playing. yeah yeah yeah yeah that's another one that isn't it yeah that's a good shout and I'm not saying you're going to score them all but you scored a lot of them wouldn't you can I just ask you before why did you not fancy penalties I always said to myself and people say I'm arrogant I don't believe I am I always said if I couldn't score goals in open play I wasn't good enough now that was my mindset I mean because ultimately when you play football as a centre forward you've got to score in open play yeah that's where you're going to get the majority of goals now if you get a penalty it's a bonus you know so I'm saying myself focus on scoring in open playing and you go from there when I was young I used to take penalties and that but as I got old I was like well you've got to actually prove that you couldn't have three at this level

1:17:05Paddy McGuinness:it is weird penalties though when you think about it because you've got like Scully Scully's one of the best strikers well I've seen Scully's one of the best goal scorers didn't take him but you look at like a defender Brucey, Dennis they'd score like 20 goals a year Brucey when Dennis went up and take a penalty you'd never think he's going to miss it's unbelievable and it's weird how that is and it's a bit like if you look at rugby Aaron Maguire is a bit like that I think if he steps for a penalty I think he'll score this you know what I mean but it's a skill I'm telling you now the best strikers of the ball from a dead ball are goalkeepers I'm telling you they could strike a ball like you wouldn't believe some of them can no but you said it a few weeks ago about when you had your eye injury you just go and practice striking a ball are goalkeepers but yeah I find penalties weird well Luke I could go on and on pal but they're giving me the fingers over there thank you so much cheers it's been a real pleasure cheers thanks a lot mate cheers thanks for watching you can get us every Monday from 6 o 'clock and you can find us on all the usual channels Apple, Spotify and YouTube cheers

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