Fergie Banned Us From Celebrating, Seaman Almost Joined United & The Truth About Beckham

23:55Nicky:Does anyone know Paddy played for soccer? Never stop talking about it. Consider 84 goals and two goals. They'll burn themselves out in a minute. Are you all right? Right, OK. Now, as an outfield player, if you misplace a pass or a bad tackle or whatever, it is what it is and you carry on playing. Goalkeeper makes one mistake. Everyone goes on about it. What about all the goals they save? Well, you do cost us, don't you? That's why. But it's like even the Brazil game, right? I had a good game in it. I had a couple of 1v1s with Brazilian and Ronaldo. Yeah. Made a couple of saves and that. But nobody remembers that.

24:31No one remembers it. Everybody remembers the goal. Just talk about that Brazil team, Dave. I was just thinking about it. If you look at the Brazil team now, is probably average, isn't it? That team we played against, fuck you now. That was Brazil-Brazil. That was Brazil. Brazil-Brazil. Roberto Carlos. Yes. Lucio, the centre-half, and Bryn. Rivaldo as well. Rivaldo, R9. R9, yeah. Roberto Silva's a good player. Cleberson. They're not probably them types of players, but fuck, you know, Ronaldinho. Yeah. Fuck, you know. It weren't funny, but at the time, after I'd let the goal in, we still had like half an hour to go.

25:05And then they went down to 10 men, didn't they? because he got sent off for Rondinho. And I'm in the goal and I'm now thinking to myself, shit, if this scoreline stays like this, am I going to get treated like Bex did in 98? Yeah. You know, that's the sort of pressures. What score was the game? Do we know? 2-1. I know,

25:24Nicky:trust me. Do you know something, Dave? Do you know something, Dave? And I watch it, I've not watched it, I've watched it, but after the game, I've watched it, and you always see the goals. But just before half-time, like the ball goes out to the side and Bex not jumps out of the tackle but he must have been thinking that the ball that kicked against him he jumps up then the ball comes back to Scolze I think he took a bad touch and then they get the ball and break and I should have brought him down so three mistakes straight away Bex jumping out of the way Scolze I should have brought him down Ashley Cole should have brought him down this is not obviously the free kick but the goal before half time there was like five of us should have wiped him out got back behind the ball got to our time and I think we would have gone and won it yeah bit late now wasn't it bit late now do you know I've said that so many times to my Arsenal defence when Giggs came through in that semi-final kick him and that Uri chest was iconic after that wasn't it just on Ronaldinho have you seen him since I have yeah so we actually played against each other in Soccer Aid you know Paddy played in Soccer Aid hey never mind that hey I played in that one oh yes I did I tuned Ronaldinho for a Greggs at fuck off at Nutsford Services Ronaldinho Cafu Deeder me Cafu Nutsford Services Greggs Cafu and Deeder in that team as well weren't they yeah I forgot about them but yeah but I have I've met him and he actually got they got a free kick in exactly the same position as what he scored from right so I'm in goal straight away I've gone go on try it again try it again and I'm like shouting at him and he was like laughing and laughing he tried to do it again he knocked it way over the crossbar and that was it I was like yeah see lucky if we if we you know if it works out as it does we get to the semis that'll be Argentina no Dave and you Scalzi you were against them in round 16 98 World Cup that's where you took Simeone out for a penalty talk us talk us talk us talk us from another one of your bad games David you know what so like they I remember it obviously because like it came through and I thought I was going to get there so I've gone down at his feet and he's just towed it past me and then he's like dived into me and it was a penalty it was well played by him yeah but I did save a penalty in the shootout like a few minutes later exactly and also as well just with that where we we talked about what you were saying about those moments.

28:05Then that gets used by Bex with the little flick, which was just... Which was a shocking decision. Yeah, exactly. And what happened after that was absolute madness, really. Do you remember? I mean, you three, obviously, you two were close to him. What happened? Fucking hell, what happened? Half the country went into meltdown. Oh, the West Ham away the first game. the first game the first game

28:32Nicky:back I remember Betts coming back and the Miser was just having a word with a few of the players saying keep an eye on him he was only young and pretty much everybody in the country except Man United fans what it's a killing basically it was effigies of him up hanging outside of pubs it was it was actually disgusting when you think about it I think he actually quite enjoyed all that you know I don't think he did he liked people talking about him and stuff everyone liked if it's nice he's not like let's hang up an effigy of you and burn it no I really don't think he minded I think he loved that because he wanted to be a bit of the villain so he could just prove him wrong I think his mum and dad and all that side of it were like really yeah family wise but I remember the first game honestly and obviously we all know Bex but we've been our mate since it was 11, 12 and I was like fuck it and I never realised how bad it was until like West Ham West Ham hate Man United anyway full stop but that game how well did he handle it yeah he was brilliant wasn't he yeah very strong you thought if it was about you I'm not sure I could play football but like I say the attention I think he couldn't have asked for the worst first game of the season West Ham away old West Ham tight to the pitch it was horrendous but to be fair he turned it around and he got us that free kick at Old Trafford got us into the was it the World Cup or the Championship he got us into that free kick World Cup World Cup yeah unbelievable but jeez it was like he took so much stick yeah that free kick against Greece I was in a pub in Bolton watching that and dear God I mean the fucking place erupted what a moment that was you know something though he must have had about eight goals of that before and he missed all of them back I remember Teddy saying I'm going to take that one and he didn't he said no I'm taking it again and puts it in you watch Teddy sharing him on that free kick he lines himself up with the goalkeeper and the ball and the goalie can't see the ball when Bex hits it that's why he doesn't move the goalie he just watches it go in but I was a bit like you I was at home because I was injured I was celebrating no one mentions Teddy and that do they oh Bex is to go the glory little snippets right Dave while we've got you here pal we've got to talk about Arsenal as well as England any Arsenal fans in the room two I thought there'd be more than that I thought there were a couple of smug faces at the back of the room they're really content with themselves so firstly obviously them winning the league for you must have been like amazing mate it's such a relief for them to do it because all that rubbish and negativity that was generated from finishing second three times was like was getting tough to take you know and everybody turned like I say into a negative but it was always a positive because we always we were there or thereabouts and then to go and do it you know in the way that we did it it was special it was really special and you know as an ex-player and a player that's won it a few times it was you know them feelings don't you when you're watching it on telly you're like I remember doing that and I remember doing that you like the open top buses and all that it brings back fantastic memories it must be a top buzz that and also as well you'd have faced these two many a times over your career any moments domestic games that stick out obviously the Giggs he go but with you two in particular with yeah just he was like the size of him it was hard to score past him do you know I don't think people really grasp how big he is no they don't but the whole Arsenal side they were massive they were massive but I always think about goalkeepers when you try to score goals and the most imposing ones and I'm going away with England training and shooting he hardly did shoot anyway did you you couldn't be arsed I won't give him away any secrets I put number two and number three I'm just going fishing with guys you do a bit of shooting me he's no better but it's just you look at him you shoot and you think I'm scoring past him I had that with a few keepers with Peter Schmeichel with David and around that time there was a lot of very good English goalkeepers weren't you thinking Tim Flowers is about David James Nigel Martin that seems to have gone a little bit now David I don't think there's that pill to pick from anymore there's not as many that are up there at least we've got we've got like two or three that are now playing in the Premier League although you say two or three it's not a lot I know and even James Traff he's not a regular so that's tough that's my only worry about this World Cup is when I saw Jordan coming out the other night when he clattered the guy and somehow got the free kick for him if he gets injured we're in trouble because with Henderson and Trafford they haven't got what you think about the sort of like even that first game where they were clearly trying to play out from the back didn't quite look comfortable but you as a keeper this emphasis on keepers playing out from the back when clearly you know the ones when you watch in the Premier League who aren't that comfortable at it but the manager still insists on it but if you're not good at it then you you've got to make sure you pick the right pass you know and the one that's straight down the middle is always the one that ends up being the troubled one yeah you know because as goalkeepers sometimes we can't pass it properly you know they'll like wrap it in or they'll bounce it in and stuff like that because they don't have pass appreciation as as much as what these guys do was you asked to play out from the bow i was you technically you're very good weren't you you could kick a ball yeah i could yeah i could hit you when hodl you'd have had to play on from the bow yeah but it wasn't it was not it wasn't as much as what it was now or is now.

34:23Almost like outfield players are for these days. You know, you look at the ones that are really decent at it, like Edison was fantastic at it. Rea at the moment, you know, he's brilliant at it as well. But he was an outfield player, Rea. So was Edison. You know, Rea used to do a lot of futsal, but played as an outfield player in golf. I think, yeah, Edison got in one season more assists than, as a keeper than some of the outfield players. It was bonkers. Ridiculous. Eh? Ridiculous. Yeah. One of the things, I never knew this, Dave, and I thought I knew everything about you because I've been stalking you for the last five years,

34:57Nicky:but you actually nearly signed for United. I did, yeah. Tell us about that. Arsenal fans aren't singing now, are they? So I was at QPR and I was letting my contract run out and I was walking around the lake and Brian Robson phoned me up. He went, I've got someone who wants to have a chat with you. I was like, who? and it was Sir Alex and I was like shit I was like hello and then he was talking to me and he was saying look I'm going to come in for you at the end of the season I want you to be my goalkeeper I was like oh okay perfect so I put the phone down and in my head now I'm going to be a Man United player but Sir Alex wanted me on a free transfer so he didn't have to pay the fee Scottish

35:44within a week obviously some he got out and then Arsenal found out and they made a bid for me. So QPR were like, yeah, you're going to Arsenal because we're going to get the money. So I go to Arsenal to try and sign and it was just like two months before the end of the season. And Luki, John Lukic, who was one of my mates from Leeds way back, he wouldn't leave. So the transfer, it fell through. All the press were there. I was waiting to sign the contract and then he went, no, you can't because it's fallen through. And I was like, shit. So I now go back to QPR and I have to play for QPR. so I'm getting pelters off QPR fans and then we play Arsenal and then I'm getting pelters off Arsenal fans as well and they're all singing we all agree Lukic is better than Seaman and then they're all at me they're going you'll never play for Arsenal you'll never and I'm on the pitch and I'm thinking in my head I'm going I fucking will because I've already signed a contract

36:41I love that that's a fact with Arsenal at the minute and just the United connection and I know he's Barcelona but it's United is talk of Rashford going to Arsenal right would you like that move? yeah I would because I still think Rashford's got a lot to offer you know he's still very dangerous when he's on it but then straight away my head then goes who's he going to replace? we've got Martinelli and Trossard if they sign Rashford they're probably going to get rid of one of them two you know and at the moment it's tough you know when you've just won the league you know to start then selling your players that have actually won that league with you that's going to be tough so you know whether that happens or not I still think it would be an improvement but it's only if one of them two leaves the club I was just going to say that I think it would be an improvement on Martel I think Chossard has done okay I think Marcel had quite a poor season.

37:46He's not had as many games this season, yeah.

37:49Nicky:I think he'd be a perfect fit for Marcus at Arsenal. I do. I think I'd liken it to a little bit like a Welbeck when he went to Arsenal. I think it's a big club that they're used to playing for. Massive club, in fact. And I think Marcus has still got... Is that what, is he 28, 27? So is there no way he's going to stay at Man United? I think the only way he's going to stay at Man United is if they can't get a buyer for him. The only thing I'd worry about Marcus is his attitude, really. now look at Arsenal he's going to have to be part of the team he's going to have to work his bollocks off when he left United he didn't bother his arse do you know what I mean now we haven't seen loads of him at Barcelona but he's still he's done well for him hasn't he now if he's prepared mentally to work up and down and do all the team stuff the ability is ridiculous really we've seen him with little glimpses in England I was going to say when he comes on for England he's a phenomenal football player he's probably our closest thing to Mbappe he's unbelievable you've seen him recently from a young age and it's like he's nailed on to be one of the best in the world when he was like 18, 19 he was that good I do think we all have opinions on people but I think his natural body language doesn't help as well and I don't think it's all about can't be arsed he has got this body language that he can be a bit like and he needs to I'm not saying he wasn't lazy I'm saying he has that body language as well where people straight away go he's not arsed well I think he is arsed I think he just needs to understand and aesthetically, it doesn't look good, his body language, and I think if he gets that, over that, which looks like he's never gone into, because he's 27 now, he's not a kid, but for me, if I was Arsenal, I'd be signing all day long, I think Trossard, he's a really good squad player, I think Martin Elliott, replaced him with Rashford all day long, and I think what you're going to get, what a club would get for him, get him for, £30 million in modern day football, for Rashford, is nothing.

39:35Yeah, that does seem cheap, for someone like him, doesn't it? Definitely. Dave, spoke about moments playing for England the odd era let's talk about eras at Arsenal

39:53talk us through the one in the Cup Winners Cup right just like hang on can we just like put some context on all of it we've got nine winners medals by the way and I'd have more if it weren't for these two that's naive but to be fair to him he meant that because he tried that in the first half he tried it in the first half and he hit the bloody corner flag and then he tries it right at the end of the game and gets lucky when it comes in like that or like we're talking about and it were a flute the Ronaldinho one but when it's sometimes it's a bit like when you see a snooker player and a shot's on that looks so someone's got a new job someone's got a new job oh I just threw it in on it honestly you can't do anything and so and you go oh that's you can just you watch it on the table you go that seems doable those ones like that where they come that far through the air like what is it where it can't you just don't get you know because as soon as he eats it I know I'm in trouble because I'm in an advanced position where I've stopped so many through balls, you know, like stop goals that way and then somebody hits one like that and I'm pedalling back and I knew I was struggling to get there.

41:19Do you know,

41:20Nicky:Bex's famous one at Sellers Park? He tried about three times before, I remember. Was it Wimbledon? Wimbledon, but he tried about three times before and I got subbed and I was on a bench, shock. And literally, I remember he lined up to kick you and the mind just gone, fucking, fucking no, Beckham, not again. Because he tried it three or four times and completely messed it up. Of course, it went in and the rest is history. You used to do that all the time as a kid. You used to try that all the time. All the time. It's not a fluke. You just try it. The thing is, when it happens and it comes off, people remember him because they're spectacular.

41:55But they don't remember how many times they've tried it before. And how many times the goalkeeper's been in that advanced position, cutting out the through balls and stopping attacks like that. So it's just, two of them's not bad, mate. have you got any good saves he's made or is it just all about mistakes are we not talking about Euro 96

42:13Nicky:you know he's the best goalkeeper England's ever had listen I know I tell him that all the time I know that but you know for podcast purposes people don't want to hear that they want to hear their mistakes right Dave off on a slight tangent here the mods have informed me of something here you've had something specially made for you as part of an endorsement deal and before I show you what it is folks obviously footballers over the years they'll be attached to certain brands and everything else you've got Ronaldo Nike Poster Boy Messi Adidas Bex God all sorts undies aftershave you name it Pele erectile dysfunction which is a little bit of a random one we won't go there we must Second name, eh?

43:08It was a little bit of a random one. But there's one product, all of those footballing legends of Overloops, and you've firmly planted the flag in the ground here. I've gone for it this time with Motorway. The driving gloves. The driving gloves. These are real. That are also goalkeeping gloves, just in case. No, talk us through them, David. Talk me through how this come about. So I've partnered up with Motorway, and they're the UK's leading car selling platform. This is God. This is God. They decided to make some gloves that were driving gloves but also goalkeeping gloves. Because everyone needs a pair of them.

43:49Just in case. And they actually work because when I had these, I drove my fishing van home in them. But during filming, I actually tried them and they've got some decent grip on them as well. They're made out of proper leather. By the way, they've got 40 perforated holes in the back there for my 40 clean sheets in 75 appearances for England.

44:18The actual strap on the wrist is made from seatbelt material. You should have worn them against Brazil. I didn't even get the hand anywhere near it, mate. It's a bit of fun. and it's great. Are they selling well? No, no, we only did 11. So if you want a chance of getting one of the pairs of 11 signed by myself, go on the Motorway website. I'll let you try them on. Let's try them on. They're also signed. Oh, you signed these as well? Very nice. I'll look at one. Oh, hands off, Nicky. You'll have them in the tip. There you are. Here we go. They're proper letters. They were actually bespoke made by a lady that made them.

45:01I guarantee they won't make him say fuck off Oh my god look at that I've just got to tell this story So when Paddy was the goalkeeper at Soccer Aid I was coaching him And it was his first time that he'd tried it Paddy played at Soccer Aid? And he went to me I've got a bad knee so I'll go in goal I was like oh you think it's that clean easy do you? Yeah you know you're cheeky bastard So anyway So he gets his gloves on The first ball I just little volley at him like at his face and he caught it like that and I'm like Paddy try and get your hands behind it like this alright alright the next one I kick it again he goes like that he misses it it smacks him straight on the nose and then the blood just went everywhere thanks for highlighting my misery Dave right here we go you've been non-stop at me I'm gone I'm gone you I'm gone I'm going to kick it or throw it kick it obviously oh no oh here we go shall I get there Paddy Shall I get behind you?

46:01Paddy, get there. Get there. He's going to smash it.

46:14Paddy, feel the grip. Feel the grip. There you go. My testicles are in my scum and game. Feel the grip. I like to feel my penis again. Leave the gloves on. Oh, yes. I feel it, pal. You went too bloody low, you then. It's a great advert. There we are. it's a pity we couldn't have give a per out to someone in the room tonight actually how did they apply for them Dave? you have to go on the motorway website or on their social media and they'll find out everything they need to know there you go the motorway website people are they in the room? some are yeah the guy that's brought the gloves out he's got a few pairs on him so get him on the way out he won't pay him for this paddy by the way I was going to say do you get money off cars?

46:59I am available Oh, I like that. Good lad. Sell your car the motorway way. Right.

47:05Nicky:Sell your car the motorway way. It's non-stop. I'm here all night if you want. Right. Okay. Before we go, just a couple of questions. What's your best memory of the game? And you've had a long and very career and you've done it all, pal. But what's, if you could sit back and go, do you know what? That is the ultimate. that i go first i'll go with england and that will be 98 world cup because it was my first first world cup that i uh that i played in um and this is after euro 96 which i did did quite well in um but to play for my country in a world cup i remember going out we were playing tunis here in france and i've got total bloody goosebumps because i'm from rotherham we grew up with nothing you know and then even at like the age of 19 i got told i weren't good enough by the a team that I've always supported, Leeds.

48:00So then I had to go down to fourth division, Peterborough, and work my way back up. Then to get to playing for England in a World Cup, mate, honestly, it was amazing. What a feeling. What a feeling, yes. Brilliant. And then with Arsenal, like I said earlier, I've got nine winners' medals, but things like, we beat Man United at Old Trafford to win the league as well, which was really special. Well, I've been taking it all night, so I'm definitely going to start giving it. That's the end of the show anyway. But you know what, and I said to the lads earlier, I said, the funny thing, when we won at Old Trafford, but then Man United, they wouldn't let us in the players' lounge after the game.

48:46I've been rightly so. No, we're talking about that. That wouldn't have been us, that would have been the gaffer. That's a man, yeah, 100%. Don't let them in drinking our free beer. So what we did is we got all the champagne out of the dressing room because the Arsenal fans were still locked in the ground so we all took the champagne and went back out and sprayed it all over the fans. Yeah.

49:05Nicky:I never knew that. We went out. Do you play that game? Yeah. You say that because he knows he fucking didn't. No, I weren't sure if you played or not. Yeah, it was a mess that game. A few injuries actually. I think McKinney didn't play either. Yeah, we had a load out. That's why they won it. Well, I just thought I'd get that in. I gave you the semi-final one. Honestly though, All joking aside, I remember playing against Arsenal in them days. They were our barometer. They were the ones that we had to beat to go on and get on it. Forget Europe that few years. The biggest rivalry, the biggest team we played against, the toughest team was always Arsenal.

49:41Would you say that rivalry at the time, because I remember that, would you say it kind of went beyond the rivalry of Liverpool?

49:50Nicky:I think I only ever did in that tunnel with Roy. Other than that, I got on with every single Arsenal player. Well, I'm saying, did it go beyond the Liverpool? Yeah, I think it did. Oh, the Riders, because Arsenal were better. There was always nastiness between United and Liverpool, but Liverpool were never on the same level as Arsenal. That was proper going for league titles and trophies. If you went through the Arsenal team and the Man United team and you went goalkeeper, goalkeeper, there's an argument for who's the best. And that's the same with every position on the pitch. Keane, Vieira, Skolls, Petit, Henri, Reuben, Nistelroy.

50:20Nicky:There was always an argument of who you would choose. That's how close it was. so there's not many areas you get that way you put the two best teams against each other and people in a pub for example would have a different opinion on different positions usually you say well it's always going to be that player, that player, that player I think the biggest, funnily enough both teams were very similar you could win games of football a different way you could outplay a team, you could outfight a team I think both teams were just like that It's because we knew that if we didn't win it, they were going to win it and I'm sure that you felt the same you know it was that the standards that we set then were so high I even the other week I watched you when you did when you won the treble against Tottenham that was on Sky like you know retro and I watched the game and I was like this is a good game this is how football used to be not like it is now and I actually watched all the game not only was it Man United winning the treble it was Tottenham as well and I'm still watching it that's how good the game was though and the standards they were up there and it was a different game because the physicality was a lot easier and a lot better to watch I was going to say when you watch that game I can't remember it but when you watched it how many fouls were let go in that game yeah lots and lots but like there was crosses flying in there was through ball there's no crosses in football the team's tried to win games of football not just by possession fucking boring yeah it is boring isn't it we actually attacked each other it was every team in the league it wasn't just like the top teams every team tried to win a game have a right go at you I remember in our era when it was really against Arsenal it was always a tight little pitch it was like a war you never got more than about one second on the ball it was just it was unbelievable but they're the games that I always look forward to they were brilliant right I'm going to throw this out to the audience now we're going to play a game Dave called Fanily Fortunes right have you done that one as well?

52:21I'm not fucking taking credit for that, Dave. We surveyed the audience to ask their opinions on some football and some non-football related matters. You've just got to guess how they answered. Right, so first question. Which World Cup country does the best food? This is what the fans are saying. yeah right go on then Scholes we start with you China I don't know no India Italy India I'd say Argentina Argentina I'll go they're second I nearly went Italy but they haven't been in it for a while have they Brazil can't have two guesses you've had yours Argentina I just allowed Brazil get in on it second what are you I'll go France France third Mexico you fucking looked at my eye there's no way you've put Mexico out I swear

53:30Nicky:I swear I'm a kid he's not a fucking chance he's wanted that he's a cheating bastard you're not looking I swear to God I swear to God yeah Mexico 22 % Argentina 15 it's obvious isn't it tackles and tacos Chiquitos isn't it not burritos tacos obvious innit tacos oh the country that came last with 2 % England I bet yeah I can imagine that I'm not having that I like a roast dinner yeah chippy chippy fantastic stuff spam egg and chips spam egg and chips spam egg and chips spam egg and chips underrated let me tell you next question on Finally Fortunes We asked Listeners Who is The Gault The greatest Of all time Footballer Let me get this iPad up here This audience here Yeah What was it Look at the age The age demographic Of all time Maradona Yeah He's third What I think I'll say Messi Messi's number one Oh yeah Why is he not Are they not bothering me, Pele?

54:48Fourth.

54:49Nicky:Ronaldo's second. Ronaldo's second. Ronaldo's second. I don't know if it's R9 or... So Ronaldo, head of Maradona? Hey, I've not done it. No, no, that's what they said to me. Fucking hell, he's having a go at me. He's giving me the eyes, you're saying that. That way, that's it. Look that way. Fucking hell. Imagine him at weakest link. You know? Fucking offering Ann Robertson out. Fucking hell, yeah. God. Do you know who was last? and again it's a George Best great player didn't play couldn't play in World Cup yeah that's true there's no way Ronaldo's better than Maradona absolutely no chance which country has the best fans at the World Cup oh that's a good one yeah that's close Scotland are going to be there aren't they go on you go first Scotland are going to be there I love Brazil Holland are very good I've got a few oh wait we're right Norway, yeah.

55:45I was going to say Norway,

55:46Nicky:but looking at the audience, I think they say Scotland. Why, because they're all pissed? We've all got kilts on, do you not notice? I reckon they're saying Scotland. They're only there for a week as well, they shouldn't count, should they? Again. Have you seen the Dutch fans? No, they're unbelievable. Norway's brilliant what they do. Argentina fans are good as well. Cape Verde. Cape Verde. Fucking hell. That went down well, didn't it? It's only fucking half of them are on pitch. It's only about 20 people live there. Fucking hell, Cape Verde. I'll go Scotland. Where are they? Number one. Oh, there you go.

56:31Scotland. Number two, England. Number three. England. Number three, Argentina. Four, Brazil. Number five, Japan. Nothing to do with Norway. Norway's not in it. Norway's not in it. Japan, I forgot about Japan We've never done this before, Chats Namely because we've never done it in front of a live audience We're going to take some questions From people in the audience Would you rather win the World Cup Or the Champions League World Cup by a mile for me

56:59Nicky:We've already won it, so World Cup Oh

57:06Sorry, sorry Sorry I asked no fans I wish I had bloody won it Do you know what though? so Arsenal so Arsene Wenger when I was at Arsenal he would give us a piece of paper at the start of every season and he would say to us write in order of preference of what you'd like to win would he? all the English players went Premier League Champions League FA Cup League Cup all the foreign players went Champions League Premier League really? that's interesting and I knew still didn't do it I know we're getting closer second again that's a nice step now though isn't it it was always

57:46Nicky:for the first three or four years Premier League Premier League Premier League bread and butter and then it was the next challenge getting all that hurdle of the next one and that's what Arsenal's got to face that's what they want because they want to create history for the club obviously they've never won it and by the way they were close with you as well all joking aside they were close I know they got stick of how they played they couldn't play any other way you can't play them in an open game you couldn't play Did it play their own way? They got beat 4-5-0. Exactly. It was that far away from it.

58:16Yeah. Right, David, this is something I mentioned on a podcast a while back. Got myself into a little bit of a debate with a gentleman, but knows I've got someone who's keen on this sport. I'll ask you. What do you think about Paul and Nicky saying fishing isn't a real sport? No one said that. I'm not sure he said that. No, I didn't say that. Oh, you were saying it. He definitely said it. You both said it. I didn't say that. You both said it. No, he didn't say it.

58:42Nicky:I'll tell you exactly what I said. Go on. You said top five easiest sports. No, I never said that. Hardest sports. And he went fishing. I went, it's fucking fishing. All you do is do that. Just put it in the water. I said, it's not huckered up down the fur. There's more to it than that. Huckered up down the fur. It was obviously a slight, but what I'm saying, it's not as hard as a fucking ultramarathon, is it? No. You don't see anyone fishing, go like that, do you? No, my argument is, Dave, what I was trying to say is it's something you've never done before. Give it a go. How difficult it is. And I said fishing.

59:19If you don't know what you're doing, casting a thing, you're not catching a thing. No. It's a pastime. It's a way that I love to relax. Yeah. And I've done it for years and years. It's a lie.

59:31Nicky:It's a lie. What's a lie? What? If you've not done it before, you can't. I've done it. I've done it. And I caught it. And I can't fish. Oh, fucking hell. what were it Moby Dick or something it was a fucking blue shark off the coast of Cornwall I'll never forget I tied a bit of string around my toe and put it in water and out it come there was somebody with you telling you what to do no no I put it I didn't want to touch it when it started flipping around I was like I'm not fucking touching that so you rocked up through cast your lining not on me own you can't do it on your own because you don't know what you're doing I know that you're tying the knots and all that sort of stuff so there's a lot to learn oh I just I've got one no you're getting ready make one fuck off he'd do buy it oh yeah he just threw it in he's running his house yeah put a maggot on it in your goals got a pike bit of spam bit of spam sweet corn bollocks bollocks what's on this year right as a sport it's I just I have it I always remember England when I first started going to England even Dave's not calling it a sport a past time fishing is a sport oh not today we used to stay at Sopal House and I always remember when Dave used to go off with Gazza fishing all the time and they come down with their little pouches on and their waist and their pockets I think boring bastards going fishing time's almost up folks but hey a massive thank you for David joining us give it up for David Seaman

1:00:56and a big thank you to Spotify for having us you've been amazing Spotify thank you very much make sure to watch us on Spotify folks Now, Nicky, just before you go, I don't want to alarm you, but apparently...

1:01:16I wonder what this was. I'm like, what's that? There's a guy in an Ivy's vest altering him sit-weights. That's all for this week's episode of The Good, The Bad and The Football. Powered by Midnight, the betting app that's built differently. We'll be back at 6pm on Thursday. thanks for having us everyone thank you