Max Dowman Wins Arsenal The Title! The Problem With Liverpool & Bruno To Break Assists Record?

32:52So he's got to then speak to his players and say, no, I want this sort of pass. I want this. I want that. And I will score goals. I think he's got a little bit of a thing with O 'Reilly where he's supplied him a couple of times but that's probably not enough. You want a bit more than that. Do you think that with O 'Reilly because O 'Reilly is a young player and he's like probably listens a little bit more to Al than when they have the chats whereas the other lads are a bit more doing their own thing but this is the thing now you've got to remember where did they get all their success is being a team now you're talking about people being more individual saying well it's about me as well

33:35Nicky:that's a really good part isn't it you think of the players as well like church you're coming for the great ability but who knows what he's going to do you have no idea what he's going to do looks great though You've got Docu on the other side. Is he really thinking about Harland? Is he thinking about himself, going past people and doing it? And there is a crisis now for him. Four goals in 17 games for someone like Harland. He'll be wondering where it's coming from. One thing he's going to do is change. Because like Emil said, he's proven what he's an out-and-out number nine who will get you goals, who terrorises centre-backs.

34:08Nicky:So it's up to the team to provide for him. He's had penalties as well. Oh yeah, but I mean, he's a beast of a player. As you say though, how's he going to get crosses? That's what I mean, it's just not going to happen. No. Is it? No. You think, look at the size of him, 6 '4", 5 '0". Yeah. But that's what I'm saying, in the coaching sessions, does someone like Pep or whoever, are they not saying, Luke, you've got to get these balls into him? I don't think they mustn't be, because they won't play the players. As well. and when they're crossing they've got they're inverted wingers as well aren't they so it's very hard for them to just go down the side and put one in they're always going to cut inside we saw it yesterday we united a little bit in the first they didn't play Sesco they started crossing the ball thinking fucking hell you've left him out he's 6 foot 5 6 foot 4 whatever it is you leave him out and you start crossing the ball and Bimo don't know so I think Phil Follin's a big part of it man just that connection that's gone why he's not playing I've not seen anything heard anything there's no injury Nicholls is there it's a mystery I don't know like Scott said though November, December I'm thinking Foden's back and he's going to and the World Cup's coming so an England fan he won't feel Foden playing like that there's no way he's going to the World Cup at this point is there no he's the one that will miss out at that 10 spot it's mad unless something crazy because he is one of the most talented players in Britain would you not still take him just knowing the player he is even though he's not been playing you can't look at the number 10s I think Bellingham's back for the game this week you've got Eze Morgan Rodgers Morgan Rodgers he was good again yesterday you've got Cole there's too many for that position there's no way do you know the one for me I'm going to speak about United in a minute but the Liverpool when you talk about managers the Liverpool Spurs game I think everyone thought Liverpool were going to absolutely steamroll the Spurs now again he leaves out Sela Eketike on the bench were again for me as an FPL fan I put them in I thought they're going to bag me a load of points why is it like what is it with slot and how he sets that team up and you're looking at Spurs who look like they were there for their taking you're at home what have we said millions of times that Anfield was always the toughest place to go that's what I'm saying because Jamie Carrigan mentioned loads of times the fans are on top of you, the players are on top of you.

36:37Nicky:They've lost that determination to stop the other team. It's just not there anymore. They've become almost a possession-based team. Florian Virk's a brilliant, brilliant footballer, but I think he's made them more into possession. I think under Klopp and probably under past managers as well from Liverpool, the last thing they're thinking about at home is about playing football. They're just thinking about kicking the shit out of you. Steamrolling and stopping you from playing. now this last year and a half it's become probably one of the easiest places to play and you would never ever you would never ever say that about Anfield but I think that they won the league, brilliant and they won it quite early last year and I think the signs were probably you can't probably judge it when they've already won the league and they step off a little bit because naturally you are going to step off a little bit but the signs were there towards the end of last year that they've lost the determination to stop the opposition still good, still want to be a nice pretty football team but you've got to stop the other team what did you think about how he set up for that game against Spurs obviously I was there oh you were there I went to go and watch it surprised I don't think Mo's had a fantastic season but he's still he's still a danger isn't he and he's still the thing is even you know some players you just see them on the team sheet you're like and he's one of those players and generally sometimes he might not have a great game but you just mentally it drains you at times so having him there but you know for me I probably would have put him in there because it gives the fans a lift as well and it makes it they're also thinking about the Galatasaray game yeah they got that game on Wednesday he had to think about that and he probably thought which is probably wrong in the Premier League but you think this team will get we'll beat Tottenham I can play any team he played he actually did very very well he's one of those ones that like you were talking about before he's a play that gets you off your bum you want to see because he's doing stepovers he wants to take players on he sometimes wants to try and drive towards the byline to try and cross even though he's right footed player on the left wing but they're the sort of players that we like to see at times but like you're saying you want that aggression just steamrolling overplay but I think he's changed the way that he wants to play and his philosophy.

39:02Nicky:It's become very Dutch, hasn't it? That's what I was saying. Do you think that's a good thing for players like Rio then? With someone like Slott trying to get him to change his game a little bit or play in a certain way rather than how down when is it Arsenal where it's like it seems like they've just gone take the reins off you go kind of thing. I think Rio's doing well in that system because the Dutch way is to have high and wide anyway and just give you the ball and let you go and create. So he's done well in that sense and he's enjoying that. But he had to, not that he had to be given a chance but it was nice to see him being given a chance because I don't think Gatpo was working on that even though he actually played central and I thought he did better for me he did better in central and you could see the work rate from him in central I don't think it works for him on the left Do you know what I think do you want me to talk about philosophies of managers and football clubs how many times have we been speaking about Ruben Amorim coming to United with his own philosophy playing the way he wanted Man United had their own philosopher I think it's almost a similar way for Liverpool Liverpool aren't a possession team They're just not They're all over you like a Jurgen Klopp team Now he's trying to do it a little bit different I just don't think it suits Liverpool Let's get on to United Bruno Fernandes took his assist tally To 16 for the season Two assists in Man United's 3-1 win against Villa this surprised me there's more assists than any other Manchester United player has managed in one season in the Premier League era going past Beckham's 15 brilliant yeah I didn't realise that look he's an unbelievable player what he's doing in a team that not struggling now but in a team that most of the last two or three since he's been there haven't been challenging for the major honours but what he's doing is brilliant and every time he gets a ball, he looks like he's going to create something, he's going to score a goal, he's going to make a goal.

41:00Nicky:And give Michael credit, Michael's put him in his right position, funnily enough. Do you know what I mean? And there's no coincidence that he's now playing where he should be playing for the last two years and he's playing unbelievably well and creating chances. He's passed for the second goal, I think. Unbelievable pass. But, I mean, I think I was part of a few people that criticised him a little bit, not because of his performances and his playing, but as a captain, as leader, because I'm old school and I look at captains like Tony Adams, Brian Robson, Roy Keane, you know them kind of It's more his mannerisms when they were getting beat.

41:32Nicky:He's a bit petulant. But what he's always done is created and scored goals and he's carried that football team pretty much on his own for I'd say a good two years, two seasons. More than anything it's his braveness because it doesn't always come off for him and I'd say probably had a, because mind you know it weren't great for three or four games, he probably had a little quiet spell but all of a sudden banged, was it three assists yesterday, two assists? I'll tell you what as well and I probably talked him down a little bit over the last season because I did think his legs had gone but Casemiro has just got a second lease of life it's unbelievable seven goals he scored this year seven is that not one of those things where you know it's your last season something about you think do you know what it's my last season let's just everyone everyone has said the same people will say we didn't say that we always looked in bullshit six months ago seven months ago it looked like his legs had gone it looked like he couldn't get about the pitch but again like when you're playing with people you know where they're going to be and in the rightful positions it's amazing how it kicks on so you put Bruno away from him a bit more advanced or to the side of him he just passes it to Bruno the ball all the time and he puts the finish he'd pass through but he has been brilliant in the last 10 games I was reading something online about the talk about him being in United's all time 11 now Bruno I mean that's a big statement I can see why they're saying that talent wise but the problem I've got with that is who do you leave out and where do you put him and where do you put him you're going to play before Cantona, Scholes, Robson, Keane like no matter how no in my eyes but that's not taking anything away from his talent he is an unbelievable footballer and they talk about him being player of the year this year and I can see why because like Scholes he said up until when Michael took over he was playing in a team that were really poor and not performing but he was the only one performing and now the team have got better under Michael and they're getting the results he just looks like a non-believe player do you know what people talk about Bruno being player of the year it probably shows when we talk about Arsenal and City not being like breathtaking or we've had a player that have stood out we're talking about a team of being third possibly being player of the year which is so strange I mean you know how much truth in it who knows but I quite what I like about Fernandes is when the wheels were coming off at United there were talk about he got offered this like ridiculous amount of money to go to Saudi and he turned it down and decided to stick it out at United and it's come good for him so I'm pleased for him in that respect but they'd already talk about this being his last season there and he's going to go back to Saudi well not back but go out to Saudi Man United can't let him go no No matter what it costs them, Man Utd can not let Bruno Fernandes go.

44:25Nicky:If they let him go... He's probably on a good deal now. He'll be on a good deal, but he'll get... He'll have to give him anything he wants to keep him, because if they let him go, the fans will go absolute nuts. How do you replace him as well? Yeah. Your little one grew three inches overnight. Adorable. Also, expensive. Sell their pint-sized pieces on Depop, and list them in minutes with no selling fees. Because somewhere, a dad refuses to pay full price for the clothes his kids will outgrow tomorrow. And he's ready to buy your son's entire wardrobe right now. Consider your future growth spurt budget secured.

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45:51Again, when we talk about the modern game, I've not got a problem with them doing that but it feels to me like it's a thing now. Hey, they've all spoke, all these young lads, we're going to do this. It's like, come on.

46:04Nicky:Celtic always did the huddle, didn't they? It was just Celtic. It is what it is. The one around the football. What was the quote? Rossini, they were showing respect to the football I mean, seriously No, they were respecting the ball Liam Rossini speaks really, really well But he's in danger of making himself just look foolish I think that's one of them quotes that all stuck with him now But they were showing respect to the ball We're showing respect to the ball But the best thing was when they see the referee in the middle of it Oh, oh The referee's like, it's just like How's he just stood there?

46:40Nicky:I just thought he's way out well lads let me out here yeah let me out get under because seriously he's listening to what they're saying and I'm not being funny now I'm not saying this is what happened but if you're the opposition manager you're going they're all having a chat there before the game the referee's with them and then the first let's say the first free kick come and they give it the award at the Chelsea he's biased straight away he's biased and there were some controversial decisions yeah it's like the referee now from the what's it called the PA what's it called that Paul Turner no the referee PGA whatever it's called they should be saying to him now don't ever stand in a huddle like that get yourself out of it yeah you know what he's trying to cope out he's like looking around just get out but the bit when he said respecting the ball you lost me then respecting the football we're all praying around the ball to go in the goal for us you don't need to kick it lads you're just going to go in the goal well the ball didn't really respect them because they got to beat one this is the thing about when we're talking about modern football and things like that Back in the day, can you imagine if like Stephen Gerrard said to you at Liverpool somewhere, get round here lad, we're just going to pay a bit of respect to the football.

47:47Oh God.

47:51It is bonkers, isn't it?

47:52Nicky:Can I just, this is just me, a bit old school. You know what, we say it's crazy and it is, but everyone's still looking for that little 1 % that they might think help. Do you know what I mean? Oh, Chris Goals is shut up. No, you are. If you respect the ball or you'll get an extra 1%, have you gone all zenny on me? No, but I can see what he said. I said he had a bit of a thing in my room today when he walked in and awed. No, he didn't. What he said sounds ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, it's like a little bit. And I don't mind him when I watch him doing his chats. He speaks really well. He speaks really well and I'm like, oh, I like him because if I'm a player, I'm going to be a kind of manager.

48:26Nicky:He's come out with a few bits of nonsense. Yeah, they're powerless. What about the manager thing, the man and age and stuff? Oh, man. Man age and age and men. I didn't hear that one. What's that? yeah yeah he said manager i'm a manager so go on aging man or something i'm managing man i think to be fair to him he's probably you know he might have done a lot of long haul flights he's got the self-help books self-help books oh use that's a great quote which is all right when you're 30 000 foot in the air you've done a few gnts in but not so much like when you're out in front of the press. Just, this is only my opinion, right?

49:11Referees, no. I think a referee should be a referee and what I say about that is I'm seeing a lot of refs now, that in the huddle where you're going, get yourself out of there. I'm seeing refs turning up in skin tight tops with biceps out. I'm like, no. Stop having yourself. You're the referee. Get a baggy shirt on. They're becoming

49:32Nicky:as superstars out there. They want to be this. they're getting swept up in the Premier League thing stop having yourself yeah fucking Menzel fucking spray tan three weeks ago told you fucking Menzel spray tan three weeks ago I'm not refereeing a fucking football match I'm an awful guy well I think you should do because that's what they all do no what I'm saying is when you're a referee in a game you can't you can't I'm all for people looking after themselves but a referee shouldn't be in a skin tight top and giving it the big one on the pitch that's the kick they've been given no no Emil no listen you can put that t-shirt on today if that t-shirt is absolutely skin tight you're going I'll put a different one on you can't go well that's what they give me you've asked for that size I just think the referees do like themselves Paddy they've always liked themselves we go back to our day you're right no but you go back to old school you want geography teacher yeah baggy David Ellery we want David Ellery what's the one on Kez the film Kez your Brian Glover your Brian Glover yeah Bobby Charlton's in the wash lad yeah that's just me do you not see that with referees no they've become in a bit more I think that's people in general there's players as well they all like to look good don't they they've got tattoos you look back and out how kids they're massive baggy money it looks about 12 other than the kids like that they could don't have massive that's what I like called Palmer old school big baggy kit on socks down his things showing you a bit of flirt they all like to look nice only everyone does those days, aren't they?

51:04Can't believe it's a place in me talking about referees to doing men's health. Unbelievable. It's out tomorrow, lads. There we go. It's out tomorrow. Let's see what I'm doing. I'm helping you. I'm plugging it for you. Lovely little plug, that. Right, let's get on to... Have you had a shower since then? I have had a shower, yeah. It's washed off, sadly. I might go for another one, actually. I had a spray tan. No. Didn't work out well. Right, let's talk about you, Emile, and Liverpool. you previously said you struggled with homesickness when you first moved to Liverpool now a surprise because it's not that far away is it really you're not in another country it's like only up the road you say that so I was 22 I hadn't left Leicester barely left my mum and dad's house I'm going to Liverpool which when you first move from Leicester I've got the strong Leicester accent going to Liverpool where you don't understand anyone.

52:05Now it's fine. After a few months, you're like, oh, you get it. But when you first get there, you're like, well, it's interesting. Going offy, going the Aussie, going, where's that? The offer, the offer,

52:20Nicky:put a few cums. What's all this? But then as well, being a young lad, everything just looking different, being different, and he assholes. Was it literally day one where you went, obviously it worked out well for me, but did you honestly think, you said, I've made a mistake. I've made a mistake, yeah. Really? Yeah, a massive club. But the funny thing is, so that would be at the hotel and they gave me an apartment there, but then I go to training, I'm fine. Yeah. It's lonely, isn't it? If you're sat in a flat and you're only away from home. I get that. You've probably had it a little bit with Newcastle, haven't you?

53:00Nicky:not so much yeah I was Nolan no I wasn't it was okay it was fine you were a bit older I was older I was 30 31 so who was it at the club like teammates who sort of tried to like take you round the road and just get you I was lucky because Peggy Arfet said was at Leicester with me and then he came to Liverpool so we had our little clique then so that was okay and then I had my family as well I had two kids by then so then they came with me so they came up and it kind of settled down and then you kind of make a family and you're fine yeah how long in to where you went do you know what actually I've done the right thing here is it the first squad probably after pre-season etc it's a big thing pre-season yeah after pre-season because I joined in March towards the end of the previous season did a bit no transfer window then would there I think I was a late on yeah late on I think it was late on so I joined in March and then had that end of that end of that season then did pre-season then once I went got through pre-season I think that's a big thing for all signings with pre-season because you're living with each other for like two weeks and you get to know people where you're sitting breakfast, lunch, dinner every single day for a good two weeks but then you go to America for like two or three weeks wasn't it like night when did the partnership with Michael start then because Michael openly says you're the best one he played and I can see that because when we played it was brilliant as a team player unbelievable we played together England were 18 obviously Michael's two years younger than me so Michael would come up to ours and it just clicked straight away it just clicked again it's a little bit different football obviously for forwards you have to run down the line you have to chase balls and all that you have to be and I grew up in an era and a club you have to work hard in Leicester if you don't do that you're not going to play so yeah I had that plus I was quick I was strong so it helped and then we just we just formed this partnership from there we went to the Euros we played France Gerald Julio was the manager under France under 18s Henri Trezeguet Anelka Silvestre Galas Usman Darbo it's not a bad team is it can you win can you win 1-1 Willie Sanyol that's a great result one but then we talk about the golden era that's just from my age group and then you add in Zidane you add in all these different players you're like who's got the golden what seasons was it where you were at Liverpool with Michael where he won the Ballon d 'Or was it 0-1 yeah yeah 0-1 he's got Emil to thank for a lot I was going to say what was it like around the place because when I've heard Michael Owen talking about that he said like no one really like it wasn't that big of a deal It wasn't massive, was it?

55:57No, it was big at Oz because of Gerard Houllier and being French. Right. And he's called up Michael and said, yeah, you've won that. And Michael's like, okay. It wasn't a massive thing. But Michael, yeah. Michael's one of those players that I think you really don't understand what he meant to us. You know, we talk about players being on the pitch. we put Michael on the pitch and he used to be injured half the time and because just the threat that he is just having his name on the team sheet which is what you were saying about Salah and he was half the time he was injured we put him 45 minutes he'd go and score two goals and then you bring him off mad but he had that he had that and he just goal scoring sharp

56:45Nicky:he's finishing I was talking before about Holly Watkins choosing the wrong finish I'm not saying Holly Watkins does it all the time but Michael had the right one every single time and I don't think you can teach that Emil no I think a lot of it's natural just knowing where to be at the right time we played in the cup final the FA yeah I think it was the FA yeah it was the FA yeah against Arsenal yeah and he scores them two goals the one that just drops in the box and he's the first one to bang bang yeah and finishes it and then the one over the top and they're saying show him on his left that's fine I'll take it on the left I reckon Emil every centrefold you play with would probably say you were the best you played with you helped them the more you took a lot of stuff away from them I speak with Tony Cotty quite a lot as well and he loves it because he went to Malaysia and then came back from Malaysia and Martin said come and play for a year for us and he just said he loved playing with me because I'd take all that off him and he'd score goals and we ended up winning a trophy as well so it was the first first trophy first finally went to first trophy he's won but I just wanted I'd come from Leicester and everything was about team.

57:56It wasn't about myself. My thing was, I'd worked with Kevin MacDonald. He was my youth team coach. He was a very good coach. Very, very good. Really good. Hard working, oh my goodness. Old school. We used to go first team, train with the first team, then go with the 21s and go and train with them because we know we get a tough one. But I had him and his thing was, you go and win your individual battle on this pitch. But once you know you've won in the adventure park go and help your mate so we used to run around just flying into tackles for each other I probably know the answer

58:30Nicky:there sorry Nick who was the best you thought you played Michael it just worked so well and we had a really really good understanding that must be a great thing that when you you know your game's goals and you have someone at your side of you where it's just like oh don't you know how to think to me you go back to like Sutton Shearer you know what I mean we're missing that sort of partnership partnership there's only one they're always playing up front on their own now and the funny thing is when you actually throw them on those two up front they don't know what to do they're running in the same channels you know Coley and Yorkie had the best and there's overs and you're like people defenders are looking at them where was it in Europe somewhere Barcelona was it two overs I've said that on air before one of the coaches said to me when he was buying Dwight York he said I just don't see how Cole and Yard played together isn't it crazy it's crazy and then you see what happened it was ridiculous yeah when you were talking about being homesick do you think obviously everything you know at United were you and were you were you standing in the game and everything else would that when we're on here and we're having a laugh and you were saying about he never leaves Oldham and whatever do you think honestly think like do you ever look back you've won it all you've won it all no I don't you never never ever I've played for another team yeah no I'm not even saying that in a United thing look if I had to I had to well you think you'd have coped because you were a creature of habit no yeah I'd have been I'd have been crying like I'm earlier I'd have commuted out to Marcelo I'd have commuted I'd have just I'd have just got up and gone home Scorsi where's Scorsi gone just gone home yeah that's what it's like you have dinner with England no football like we're talking having a chat turn around Scoles is gone like ghosts just go fly through the wall like just literally go but that was you you just wanted to be at home didn't you yeah I don't know how I'd cope with going to a new team when we went for the tournaments then I didn't like it Scoles is the only person that celebrated when we got knocked out of the World Cup we're going home we're going home we're going home we're all like this so we just got beat he's going going old he's got he's got he's got he's got he's got he's got Jameau wasn't great no Jameau didn't like who did you room with at England all on our own on our own yeah I thought you two stayed together no we did in the early days alright but then you end up it all became single rooms I couldn't survive with him no more it was pitch black we were just so opposite as well on the way we did things obviously best mates and stuff and so we used to get put together because you'd know but it was like yin and yang he'd go to bed dead early and I'd go dead late and he'd be up dead early and I'd be lying in and I'm like why am I really moving in?

1:01:28Nicky:which is why it all changed because people were different it's why it all changed to single rooms do you think it's better having single rooms? yeah really? yeah I used to get really nervous you know when you first get in a team we talk about first getting a team with the top pros one of my first trips was a room we might use and it was like my hair I've fucking watched him play what am I going to do and I imagine him being all his kit spot on I don't know why imagine him having a little shoe brush for his boots do you know what I mean I was like 18, 19 and he was like you know I've got to I'm making cups of tea and stuff imagine how hard it was for the older lads if you had got like a little 18 year old kid coming at the show the first thing he said to me when I went in the ring was don't be building tents tonight no my first my first really don't be playing tents I went in I think the manager must put you with an older brother to make you feel better but you didn't want it you wanted to go with your men yeah you wanted to be an older brother Les Sealy Les Sealy Les Sealy he was smoking God rest his soul he wasn't the nicest of men when it comes to being nice to a young lad he was a bit of a bully so the window would be open it was one of them hotels that slide out and he sat on his lint he's smoking he's like you you stay in there you put your stuff there don't cross up and he's like and I was like thinking I just want to go home I was 17 You must have had some experiences with them at Leicester.

1:02:48No, I had Gary Parker first. A lot of player Gary Parker was as well. And then Jamie Lawrence. Right. Yeah, so I was lucky.

1:02:58Nicky:That was a really good Leicester team. What do you think of what you won and what you did? Was you at Leicester and Julian George in was there? Yeah, so I was a younger kid. I was, I think he left when I was 16, 17, 16. Some player young when he was young, Ronnie. He was a powerful player. I played one game with him. We played under 18s with Julian with England. I think I actually roomed with Julian. I remember him. I think he was 17 and he had a girlfriend with kids and stuff. He had a picture on the side of a girlfriend and kids.

1:03:30Nicky:Girlfriend and kids. He said, I'm getting engaged as well. He said, I just want a bit of security, man. He sounds like Alex Ferguson's perfect player. Look at that. 17th married North kid. Is he? Yeah. He was some player. Then he went to Villa. He got to Villa. Yeah. Explosive, wasn't he? Yeah. Really quick. He had the outside and a boot finish. Yeah. Can I just ask you this one, just randomly, come up on the Noughts. You two played in, when England beat Germany, 5-1, which, that was, how wonderful was that? Well, you got the fifth goal what was it like I know I know but I'm I'm with him every week I've got a guest on now I've got a speaker yeah yeah we can't just keep because to say how brilliant these two were you know fifth goal 5-1 I remember the celebration I remember your celebration was that the goal yeah I came home to serve he was blank I just passed the ball to you then it's alright fuck me off you do your goal it's alright and I said that to him I got the audacity to then tell him to start playing while I do this that's where you're scoring on you're that swept in a game like that what did you do it was a putt-in wasn't it what are your memories of that game just obviously going 1-0 down very early on I gave a goal all the way as well did you I tried a crossfield pass remember the big centre forward Yanker tried to get it over him he was fucking massive went straight to him they broke and scored 1-0 down Yeah Early on I think we Could have been 2-0 I think Decey made the save Good save yeah And then I think we just scored At some critical times We scored to make it 2-1 Just before half time And then when you go in like that And we had a bit of a momentum Yeah Am I right in saying It was all Liverpool I just scored goals Yeah Because Stevie, Michael and Nick Yeah yeah yeah When you win in half time Then you say the momentum Momentum's with you what's said when it's like that is there a lot to be said in the dressing room you said much didn't you Sven you never really said much before the game I've never really said a lot did I three points even at the end of the game we've won 5-1 and everyone's like happy sit down sit down well done and that was it that was it it was great I love playing with Sven it was nice there was never really many celebrations was it after England games because if that was on a Saturday we might have another game on a Tuesday so you can never go wild anyway or if you had a big win on a Tuesday you're back to your clubs on a Wednesday so it was never really the only celebration we had was when we talked about Nicky the other week remember the we got to after the Rome game yeah after the game in Rome where Nicky had a few in that restaurant so when you're saying like Sven didn't it was quite quiet who'd would he give one of his coaches the task of geeing you up a little bit or how did it work we didn't this honestly blows my mind as a fan we had Todd Gripper as his assistant Todd was probably quieter than him he used to get he had like a tactics boy remember yeah he used to get that and he moved it just at the front yeah 4-4-2 and we have what's he saying 4-4-2 3 points that's it yeah Steve when Steve McLean came in alongside he was a bit more vocal as a coach Steve was more vocal Kiddel did it Kiddel did it Kiddel did it Sammy Lee Sammy Lee Sammy Lee he's a love Sammy Lee he's warm up he's a running in a circle running run out remember him yeah he's funny he's a great love Sammy Lee talk about Sven Sven had a great reputation as a coach and Fabio Capello was the same what was he like was he a talker oh he was yeah he was yeah screamer was he really yeah no don't do that no on the pitch I remember one time I've took the boy probably I don't know if I should have done it or what but I took the ball we were doing something I took the ball just and had a shot no I don't want you to do that but he's one of those yeah and then Defoe did it it was fine can you hear all that when you're on there can you hear not because this is training so you oh sorry training he's on the pitch right oh really yeah right pal we've flown through this today so I've got a few quickfire questions before we wrap up in fact this this can go to all three actually but we'll start with a meal and I'm a slow fire these honestly that was nothing on you understand we normally like I'm sorry sorry right sorry poddy mental notes herself don't be nice to him I were nice too many cool before he can't get us a coffee did you well I didn't see you come in because I ran first lads I had a stress all morning sorry buddy no it's alright it's okay so water off duck's back hurry up then right quick fire's going well he is right actually he's been fucking zoon one team mate who deserved more credit than they got who you played with all three of you

1:08:54Nicky:G-Sun Park for me please say Robbie Savage do you know what Sav was good though I enjoyed playing with Sav because he was just a nuisance to him. You wouldn't have enjoyed playing. We would have played. He was a team player as well. He was great for us, especially at Leicester. Yeah, I played with him at Birmingham as well and he ended up being actually one of our many players. But like at Leicester, he was just someone who just put his foot in and try and disturb the other team from playing their best football. Yeah, for me, yeah. He gets a lot of stick, Robbie, but he's good kicks. Technically, he could whip them off.

1:09:34Nicky:Steve Bruce for me even though he idolised at Man United and was a captain and what he should have had 50 caps for England yeah that was a bit of a never play for England that's the thing I'm getting never got a cap never played it's ridiculous that isn't it he talks about that when you're wrong he talks about that when you're wrong he's story about Ireland doesn't it yeah where he could have played for Ireland but in the end days only three foreigners were allowed to play for your club so the manager won't let him go to the well I think it was a World Cup for Ireland so the manager won't let him go but you're looking he could become a foreigner even though he was idolised at Man United and deservedly so on a captain but the bigger picture not to play for England is ridiculous Jason Pout was unbelievable yeah again you talk about people working for the team just everything goes unnoticed but when you play with them you see it all some big goals he scored as well some big goals one player from the England team today that you'd love to play with probably Harry Kane yeah got to be a few ain't it be a handful of that what about yourself

1:10:41Nicky:I love Phil Foden I know he's not probably in and around it at the minute I would love to have played probably I know he's not in the squad at the minute but I love John Stones yeah I like John Stones I'd love to because where I played like a six I'd sit him in field to have him behind me would have been do you know what He's another one that you don't speak about being missing for City. He's probably a centre-half who makes your team play football. There's not many of them. This is a random one. Not sure what they were thinking when they wrote this. One story from your career that you've never told before.

1:11:14I left Liverpool, went to Birmingham. We were talking to AC Milan. and then that season's... Fucking hell, what happened then? I don't know. That season's... What's it called? Champions League finals, Liverpool, AC Milan.

1:11:35Nicky:So you could have gone to AC Milan? Wow. You weren't close at Birmingham. You didn't play together, did you? Oh, did you? Oh, yeah, yeah. Get that quiet, didn't you? That's not cool, was it? We're memorable. Tell us about this new football safety app, pal. Yeah, so with a couple of friends of mine that we got in... We started this football safety app because out of basically friends and family coming to games and just not having a good time. My mates, I know a couple of my mates don't go to football anymore because I stopped playing and they only really went to football because I was playing. And then the abuse, they get there.

1:12:13Not just at the games, but in and around the stadium, etc. And it's not just, it's not all racism. It's every sort of thing. any form of abuse any form of harassment etc so we decided that we were going to start an app that we can have reported because where do you go to report a lot of it is reported 2, 3, 4 days later with this now everyone's gone you can't find out who the perpetrator was

1:12:39Nicky:I have just seen something at Arsenal this weekend with Everton one of the Everton players his family in the crowd really? these are the sort of things that you need to we looked at and we were saying what reporting that can be done live right straight away and this is one that you can as soon as you log into the it's called a football safety app as soon as you log in it brings you shows you what stadium you're at and you can then start doing the reports whatever you want if you want to take a little picture you want a video whatever you want you can then and it goes directly to a central hub it goes to the stadium as well and it goes to the police working straight away brilliant how long has it been up and running we're very new we're at Shrewsby at the weekend so we're working with them Cambridge taking it as well so we work with the clubs work with the local police anything that is of a police yeah it goes straight to them and they can do it so it's the clubs who have to take it on board yeah not yes and no as long as you get the the fans downloading it they can then start it There's obviously rewards within it as well.

1:13:51Have you got the app on your phone? Yeah. So people, when they go, because you can see what it looks like, the colour of it and what have you. And if you go on the app store, then it can give them a better idea of what it is. There we are. Can you see that? Which camera? Three or four? The one with the red light. Three. There we go.

1:14:10Nicky:There we go. And as you can see, harassment, bullying. I'm going, have you got Nicky Butt in there? Birmingham so yeah you can just go and make a report quality because it's interesting isn't it with football now and we talk about it all the time about the money that's involved the stadiums now are absolutely amazing and it's more of a family experience now certainly when I used to go back in the day so it's good to still always there that's what I'm saying it was like going back to the 80s yeah it's just there isn't it it's one of them things but anyhow thanks so much for coming in pal absolutely love your company cheers what are you playing off golf wise I don't actually but I'm looking to start up hang on you're celebrating giving it that I don't play golf what made you celebrate what was it DJ Spoonie oh Spoon it!

1:15:14It's like a little group. Yes, I was used to do some of it. It's like, give it one, yeah. He's big into his golf, actually. He's big into his golf, yeah. Right, OK. Thanks for watching, everyone. You can join us on all the usual channels, YouTube, Spotify and Apple.

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