Where Man United Went WRONG! | Scholes & Butt Discuss Manchester Derby Defeat

29:14I'll give you a clue. He's in this room. Scolsy. Fucking hell, well you've already gone. Yes, you, Paul Scolz. Do you know that? Fucking hell. 50, isn't it? Fucking hell. Well, the reason why I said he's in this room, I was willing him to say Nicky. I was like, no, you. Question four. But I've got to say, lads, going well this. Great show. What score is it, by the way? Fuck no. Two on to you. Right. Question four. What is the name of the drink created in Manchester in 1908 that was originally a herbal tonic designed to give... Yes? Vimto. I was going to say Vimto. Great show. It was designed to give drinkers vim and vigour.

30:04Right. Vim We told you Manchester's Oh Hey I never knew that With Vimso Very northern Salford had a sponsorship Didn't they Yeah Did they Question five What five letter word Can mean stingy Or fake Oh you got me the fake Tight No Very tight but It's not fake is it Five letter word Can mean stingy And fake I'd think more towards the fake snide correct start means yeah yeah uh proper man question six what is chuddy that was me that was me that was tight that was tight that was tight yes chris well done how do you know that because you can't That's your opinion. I want to see the replay. I was going to say, I was going to say, Chewing Gum.

31:05The main thing is, they're not competitive, and that's the main thing. Just a bit of fun quiz. Chewing Gum is right, Paul Scholes. Nick, here it's me. Nick, the thing is, yours' sound is more prominent than mine. There we go. It went up, didn't it? I did go up and knocked that. I fucking know. That's if you're covering the speaker on your leg like that, you div. Is anyone keeping these quotes? Because I'm not right, God, right. Three, two. Three, all, that. Honestly, seriously, Try and not cover that. Right. Leave it there like that. If you wanted to get a tattoo, a record, or some second-hand clothes...

31:39Oh, yes. Affleck's Palace. Oh, he's straight in. Affleck's Palace. Yeah, I knew that. Or a piercing from one place in Manchester. Where would you go? Affleck's Palace. Question eight. What do you call a narrow alley? Ginnall. He's in. And I like how he's holding the buzzer now. Here we go. I think we might be drawing so far. What's good, is it? 4-0. I still want that VAR looking at, Jack. 4-0, two questions left. How old are you playing for? What time would you have your dinner?

32:2512 o 'clock. Correct, midday. is your tea what sort of fucking question is that because your tea everyone has to dinner at different times dinner's posh dinner's dinner time isn't it lunch isn't it and your tea is your dinner tea's like half three till six I know what the fuck it is well where were you on the buzzer clearly you don't so half three till six you're in the kitchen knocking trifles up it proves my point your tea's half three till six so your dinner can be from half eleven till half two no no your dinner's twelve innit It's 12 o 'clock dinner. I'm right out of paddy. Right, it's all on this to take us to a time break.

33:05No, you can't. It could go to a time break. You just made me want to go along you. Well, it's fucking 5-4, so it's obvious if he gets this right. I can't get over that question. It's fucking Carol Vorderman. Work that out. That question's fucking stupid. Question Sam. Who are the most successful football team based in the city of Manchester?

33:26Man United. That is incorrect. The answer is Manchester City Oh wait wait You've got to pass it across There's only fucking two clubs No he's not How can I pass it across I don't know It's a bit amateur You've already won But how Manchester United Are in Greater Manchester But Old Trafford Is located outside The city limits And is in Trafford Yeah you're right The fuck's that Got to do with it Well the question is Who's the most successful Football team Based in the city of Manchester. Chris, have you done this quiz? Of course he has. It's fucking shit. I won. I won. You don't see much of that, do you, on QI?

34:11This is fucking shit. But there you have it. That was the alternative Manchester derby, powered by Midnight, built for no, not like the old school bookies, quick to use, simple to navigate, no messing about. Just search Midnight Built Different Index for more information. You do have to be 18 or older and please gamble responsibly. What's on James Milner's playlist? Everything, to be fair. I can listen to my stuff. Yeah, I like it. A bit of an eclectic mix. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty. What's on yours? He doesn't. Oh, he doesn't. I'll tell you what it is. Fucking silence. This lad plays 658 Premier League games.

34:57you're asking about fucking music. Oh, is it not nice to know the person as well? No, it doesn't always have to be muck and bullets, does it? Is it 658? We were talking about steaming eggs a few podcasts back. That is unbelievable. I don't think you understand how good that is. No, I do. That's what I'm saying. I'm not sure you do. You talk about fucking music. It's nice to know the person as well. It's nice to know the person behind the football shit, Paul. This is what he doesn't understand. It's about communicating and building up a rapport. 600-odd games. What do you think it is, with you personally as a player?

35:38What's your favourite song? Wow. He's fucking murdering him. What is it that, like, makes you go for so long and other players not? Is it all just down to injuries? Is it down to do players lose interest? It's something special mentally for me. Mentally, physically, especially. Yeah, I think you need luck for sure. You need a bit of luck in terms of staying fit, but also you need to do the side that everything to not get injured. So I think you're looking at diet details. Obviously, that's changed a lot since I first started, and the more people around the club and take advantage of that, the nutritionist, the gym stuff, you know, you start doing maybe a few gym sessions a week at Newcastle or whatever, and then it gets more, and then you're in the gym half an hour before training.

36:22and then every day after training, depending on his legs, upper-fing core, injury prevention. But, yeah, I think I always just tried to do everything right and do every day and be the best I could, I suppose, and never really cut corners. There's no days off in terms of, you know, you have your rest days, but, I mean, no days off in thinking about it. This is what I love about James. It's like for any young people watching who want to get into this game, there's no shortcuts. It's hard work. It's commitment. When you think of an example of how to live your life and how to be a professional footballer for 24 years, there's no better example.

37:01It sounds like a daft question, this has been spoken about 24 years within football, but are you actually a football nut? Would you go and watch games, are you obsessed with football? Because for me, from a distance as well, it's like you're more obsessed than you personally, now you're going to be professionalised. I don't see you around football at the minute, I don't see you at any games. is it your football no I'm not I don't watch loads of football I really don't you bang on to be fair I think early in my career I was for sure watching everything and I think it was about you know yourself and pushing out probably the last five six years was about my team obsessed with my team how can I and obviously become a senior player it's not about you it's about the team how can I help the lads and speaking at the manager a lot and involved in those coaches conversation so you're thinking about the bigger picture of the team so I'm obsessed with my team rather than watching other teams and that's probably where it's been and then you know since I've retired you know I'm watching games here and there but you know I'm doing other things and spending a bit of time with the family and stuff like that so I'm not a football nut yeah I'm obsessed with what I'm doing and if I'm doing something I'm fully all in I suppose so it's been you're right really that journey of that and you get to a point in your career because I started so young I felt probably like a senior player a lot earlier than you know I was probably 24 and I felt a bit like a senior player because I played eight years at that point so I had quite a long time of thinking about the bigger picture rather than yourself sort of thing.

38:22Do you ever go back and watch games at Leeds because I know you're a Leeds fan, Leeds boy and that's where you started but you've had a big career at other clubs. It's hard to say you've always got a love for City, a love for Liverpool. Do you ever go back to Leeds and go I want to watch a game? It's a funny story you know. I went to Newcastle obviously and I was more than happy staying at Leeds, wanted to stay at Leeds but it it was best for the club so they needed the money so I went to Newcastle fine and they got to the playoff final that first year after I'd gone to Newcastle so I contacted the club wanted to go watch him at Wembley said can I come and watch the game yeah yeah no problem can get you some tickets just let us know you want to pay for them and all this

39:00and that was it yes I am Vincent really that is just it's when you two have said stuff about United and tickets it blows my mind Honestly, it left the club to help the club I mean obviously I was 18 at times it wasn't gonna save the club I gave up why I was out and stuff. Yeah, you know I don't have any hard feelings against club. I love the club. I mean it's people who are in charge at the time Yeah, yeah, it's one of them. Yeah, and I've just not been Enjoy the most being up and that's probably a tough question. It is tough. I think um obviously leeds being a leeds fan liverpool was incredible um individual like say villa i was there twice and i think that was when i had my best individual time i've loved them all really city city was only you know they hated me when i left there's some bizarre stories about i've said this about the club and that and you know quotes have apparently said and you know i got booed when you back, which is sad.

40:03You got booed when you went back? Yeah, I used to get booed. Still now, really. But, you know, I enjoy my time, so I've got nothing bad to say. Everyone speaks very highly of you, how you were as a professional, how you looked after yourself. What was Moore like? Was he one of those kind of players who was always last on the training pitch, putting the hours in? He was obsessed again, but yeah, for sure. Obsessed with it and was humble to ask questions and opinions and then make his own mind up, but he'd always be looking, how can I get the edge, whether it was recovery, fitness, in the gym all the time, finishing, penalties.

40:38We had so many conversations on penalties and things like that. Humble enough to ask questions, but then he'd make the decision and things like that. I think that's a sign of someone who's elite, I think, doesn't have that ego that I know best. He would go around and get as much information or he'd see things or read things that someone's doing it and the next thing he's got a bike in his swimming pool at home and he's doing his recovery and things like that. Or he's going back to the training ground at 3 o 'clock in the morning after a game to do an Australian. I've seen bikes in swimming pools in Bolton.

41:08I say swimming pools, canals. Have you got a bike in your pool at home? Have you? That's a very simple question. Lads, we keep having this discussion on the podcast. I'm not an ex-Premier League footballer. There's no swimming pools in our... I've got a blow-up paddling pool in the backyard. Have you got a bike in it? I've got a bike wheel. Yeah, I've just missed the rest of it. I think what you're saying about Mo Salah there then, every top player, and again, this is, I think, if you're a young person, you think, oh, I want to get into football. The examples for me that I've seen throughout the years is all the top, top players, you've got to have that ability, but they've all had a work ethic.

41:52I mean, you look at Ronaldo when people talk about him. but graft do you know what I mean hours and hours of like extra training you know they put it in how they live diet everything that's what I was asking James before I think the misconception from people that have not been in football think that to be a top top top player you have to be obsessed with football I think you've got to be obsessed with yourself and making the best of yourself so Ronaldo is a pivot example Ronaldo great lad loves himself he wants to be the best physical specimen he can be he does the scores, he was like that when he came in he wants to be the best footballer there is and then that transpires into being one of the best teammates you can have, and I do think that's a massive thing with top, top, top players, it's like obviously they enjoy the game they want to be the best they can be, but to be as high level as Mo Salah, Millie these players, they have to be they have to be obsessed with how they are themselves, they want to look in the mirror and go I really like what I'm seeing here I really want to be I did the last No I never No but they do If you look at Ronaldo Don't look at his trousers I look at that Ronaldo I'm telling you Is obsessed with himself Yeah And that's not a slant name at all It is looking at how he can be The best specimen he can be To be the best footballer he can be And I think all the top players I think to be in that Very elite bracket When you're talking about The best in the world The top four or five You have to be selfish Yeah You have to have that Yeah Yeah of course Just I want to touch a little bit on Arsenal here, lads.

43:26This one, Arteta has revealed this week he deliberately sabotages the Arsenal squad, but with random stuff, because he feels as though psychologically it gives them the edge. That might be like going the wrong way to a game, or to training, or is it like he has people pickpocketing? Yeah, he did that last year, didn't he? Look, if he thinks it's the extra 1 % that gets you results. Not sure if your iPhone nicked makes you a better player, does it? Really? He's got a method in his madness. Who are we to argue with? He just won the Premier League. He seems to be working. On our bus, our coach, when he was younger and some pickpocket comes and starts nicking everyone's phones.

44:14You've been knocking it out, haven't you? You've been knocking it out. I'm trying to nick Yapstam's phone off him. no the manager told me to do it sorry Yap the manager's paying me what's the weirdest thing you've seen a manager do throughout your careers like that where you go this is you know where they've gone we're just going to try this today because I saw some last season I had Tesser Adamo passing a cable run with a lightbulb on the end and he was giving some speech I actually watched that programme on Netflix I don't know if any views have seen it where they followed Arsenal I actually quite liked him I thought he was good like his light bulb team talk and some of the things I thought it was really good.

44:54Now this is a couple of years ago and obviously you haven't been as successful now but looking back we were talking about it before so I will talk about it again for the audience but when we signed it when Sam came to Newcastle and obviously you knew Sam's background at Bolton and what he did was amazing but how he did it was very together and it was a team spirit and it was like there's no superstars although he went and bought a few it was always very team spirit so at Newcastle you come out of the building and you go down a couple of steps and you'd be on the pitch and then as we got out onto the grass, you just hear this heavy breathing like Darth Vader, and you're thinking, what the fuck, what's this?

45:28And you're looking around and you look down to the pitch where he was training and there was four speakers in each, a speaker in each corner, so obviously four, and then Big Sam's there with his mic on. And he's thinking, what the fuck? And he's walking out and you just hear him start talking and because he was running around putting cones out, he's heavy breathing and honestly, it was one of the funniest things ever. And then he'd be saying like Millie get to the ball ball ball ball He was like shouting to the IT guy sort of speakers out and it was good echoing Remember Mark the duke was a great block.

46:05You know him a lot better Dukes as calmest nicest guy ever and he just went not for me this not for me not for me this it was what Sam did I imagine at Bolton and we had so much success there he was going to go to the next club and do exactly the same thing isn't he we had like a few where the managers just get obsessed with certain things like Mancini was so superstitious it was a joke so before we played you in the semi-final I think it was in 2010 I think semi and we went the wrong way from the hotel went the wrong way took us Forever again, I think we only got there 45 minutes for kickoff and I'm 15-1 So what did we have to do stayed at the same hotel to take the same route for the final?

46:56But one now yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah was it the one of the famous skulls tackles it wasn't great Guess we're murder skulls, isn't it? The only other one... What did it go away with? It didn't go away with it. Come on, James. No, it was just... Jürgen was one where we had... When we used to go to the Far East, we went on tour time. So we wouldn't be on their time. We wouldn't be on English time. We'd be somewhere in the middle, so the jet lag wasn't as bad. Yeah. Tour time. Tour time. So the tour time turned out that we were up straight away for a running session before breakfast, which tour time made 12.30, 1 o 'clock in the afternoon.

47:35I've never heard that before. Hottest part of the day. So we're doing this run around this track. Hottest part of the day. It's like 1 ,000 degrees. Got on the bus and he wouldn't let us have aircon on. Oh, my God. So we've had to go like half an hour stuck in traffic. Like, everyone's melting. No aircon. I don't know if it was because we thought we were going to get colds or something else. Yeah, so we had like 45 minutes back to the hotel. Everyone's dying. That's unbelievable. Imagine that. I've never done a tour time, have you? I've heard stay on English time. Yeah, stay on English time. It was mental for all the people, you know, doing all the commercial stuff and that.

48:05They're working off the time for local time. I want to organise that. Tour time, England. It was insane. It was great. What a work. Yeah. Brilliant. That prize guy are back again, and we're doing our own giveaway completely free for one lucky winner. Do you want the true GBF experience? Trust me, I'm here every Monday. You don't. You're better off being on that side of the camera. It's too stressful in here. Well, we're giving away a GBF Weekender. Two tickets to watch United vs Spurs on Saturday 10th October, two nights in hotel football,£500 spending money and the exclusive chance to come and watch us record GBF in person on Monday 12th October.

48:58So the prize is about watching football. I'm going to ask you a little bit about your experiences of watching football because obviously, lads, you've been there in the midst of the game, but I'm taking you back to when you were fans of the game. What's your first memory of watching football? What was the first game? Was it live or was it on the telly? Well, it probably would have been the telly, wouldn't it? But I think as far as the live one, I was a Man United fan. My dad took me to United probably once maybe. We couldn't afford to go. And I think it was against Chelsea. and you remember the tunnel underneath?

49:31It used to go out, it was packed and it kicked off. It was all fighting. There was a lot of hooliganism around at the time. I remember my dad picking me up and sprinting off. My shoes fell off. Didn't have any shoes. Brilliant. Trainers fell off and that was probably my first experience. How quickly did he pick you up for your trainers to come off? It was a bit quick. Remember Chelsea? He was a big fan. He was a size 10 at the time, his trainers. Probably cheap. Chelsea's were the headhunters. Yeah, the hooligans. and under that tunnel at United it was like cramped parts and I was a kid it's mad isn't it when you think back to football I don't remember the game don't remember the game what was yours?

50:10again I remember it being match of the day and watching it on TV but the first time I went to a game I went with my cousin took me to Old Trafford I can't remember if it was a game but I just remember it being like when you get hooked on something but I was never one for going to matches when I was a kid I was more I loved playing football with my mates I'd like playing for your school team, play for your Sunday league team. And it was always out of our price range going to Old Trafford. It was never... Did you ever go in that bit in the Stratford and like the top bit? I'm pretty sure you used to have like a little seated section at the top.

50:42I can't remember. I'll tell you where I used to go quite a bit. I used to go to watch City quite a bit as well because I had a lot of friends that were older than me. Well, basically, you used to go where you could get to. Yeah. And I had like three or four mates that were a lot older than me. So they were like three or four years older than me. So they were allowed out and I weren't allowed to go anywhere on my own without them. So I got dragged to Main Road quite a few times. What was the point when you were playing the game, just local teams and all the rest of it, where you thought, oh, I might give this a will?

51:13I think it's just something that's been better than you. I mean, I've no school, your dad played football, my dad played football, and your uncles do. You just get dragged to Sunday League games, then you go to the pub to have a Coke and some Chris, then go on. It becomes your lifestyle, And then obviously you start playing yourselves and you realize it's, and I say to my kids when they were younger, it's not about being great at something. I think team sport is massive for friendships and building relationships. And when you get into a, we were fortunate enough to obviously meet when we were young and grow up together and win things.

51:44But that was like the pinnacle, but being part of a team and playing football as a kid at school and Manchester boys, and there's nothing better really. Probably not until your 15, 16, where you think you might have a chance to play football. and still that is very young but that's when you're leaving school and it's your job. Are you aware of the grown-ups around you going, he's going to be all right or were you oblivious to all that? No, I don't think I listened to that. Yeah. I think back in our day, I think it might have changed a bit now but we was always put down as kids. Yeah. I don't remember ever, my dad ever saying he was brilliant today.

52:17Never. I don't think he's ever said that to me. Don't be too big-headed. Yeah, you get in the car. You think you've made it. No, you haven't. You get off the bus and you go and meet your dad and they go, you're rubbish today. Tough love. Tough love. Yeah, so I just think we never had that. So for a chance, for all those lovely goodies, head over to thatprizeguy.co.uk forward slash competitions forward slash good bad football weekender to enter our free GBF weekender giveaway. This episode is brought to you by Xclad. Lads, I know we had the big thing about the boiled eggs, but I've got you a little gift here to elevate your cooking game.

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56:36James, as we've got you on, pal, the mods have come up with something here called Who Wants to Quiz a Millie on Earth? Exactly. very creative that's what we're dealing with James that's the level we aspire to on this podcast not bad yeah not bad that's us right this is where our viewers we've given the opportunity to ask you some questions so this is from David first he's a Manchester United fan and Paul and Nicky feel free to interject on any of these did United ever make a move for yourself and if they did, would you have joined? They did, to be fair, yeah. When I was leaving City. But obviously not.

57:23No, I wouldn't have entertained it. Did you speak to them? Not really. No, I just... Not really? Well, no. Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, I think I did make my mind up about Liverpool. Yeah, I just... I mean, you talk about a Leeds player, City player. Obviously, you haven't been to Liverpool then, but then going to United is... Yeah, that's... That's a tricky one, isn't it? Yeah. Right, okay. I just couldn't. Respect the club, obviously, but just Leeds fans through and through and dislike them. What about when Smudgy won? Smudgy did it, yeah. Smudgy did, yeah. They hated him for it, didn't they? Did they?

57:55They hated him, yeah. I think there's still a massive... Can you get a ticket? For what he did for Leeds, I think. This is from Chris. He's a Brighton fan. Is it true that James only speaks to his kids in Spanish? for the first three years of the life I did, yeah. Is that real? When I saw that, I thought it was a fucking nonsense. What were that? Well, I just learned Spanish because, you know, I go over there a lot and was impressed when people could speak two languages. So when I was at City, I had a tutor and did it every week and learned the language and then, yeah, got like kids books in Spanish and English and just did it in Spanish.

58:34Can your kids speak Spanish now? No, they do it at school, yeah. My daughter was brilliant and she could understand everything, but she never spoke it. Yeah. And me lad was lazy and he'd go, what? I'm speaking English. And they do Spanish at school, so I'm hoping it's in there and it'll come out. But yeah, my daughter, she couldn't speak at that point. She was probably like 14 months or something. She could walk and not speak or something. And I asked her to do something in Spanish, didn't point or anything, and she did it. So she understood everything, but she just never spoke it. Was it always in your head?

59:05Was it just because of your teammates? You thought, you know what, actually, I'll show a bit of will in here with some of the lads I've played with. Or did you always have in the back of your mind you might have played in Spain? Yeah, I think that was a possibility. I like Spain, spend a lot of time out there. And it's a good skill to have, obviously. Yeah, I think I was never against it never happened in the end. I always had a good option in England where I thought it was the right move and hopefully I always chose the right move. But yeah, it was always something that I fancied playing abroad for sure.

59:34Joe, Man United fan. When did James become aware of the boring James Milner account on Twitter? And what's the most boring thing you actually do? This account, by the way, it's got a life of its own. I remember seeing that myself. Have you seen this account? I don't see it twice. It's someone who's saying they're James Milner. It's a parody account, but it's all like, got up today but can't you get that taken down if it's not you no I don't think anyone believes it's actually James Osden did they at the beginning maybe I think people thought it was me I think it was like we were pre-season with City so that's how long ago it's been like 13 14 years and there was a boring Barry at the start as well so that's why I didn't know if he would want it lads but we never found out it was I think Mika Richards contacted to find out yeah a bit of fun did you ever read any in like some of them yeah I mean they got pretty repetitive I mean we're 13 years in now there's only time so many times to protect bins out and stuff like that ain't it until bins out today and you know yeah brush the dog hair and whatever but yeah okay Luke Man City fan what was it like sharing a dressing room with Balotelli yeah it was it was like having a 11, 12 year old in there maybe too old like if we If, say, we were a group of lads in dressing room just having a chat and he was in there and no attention was in, he'd just do something completely stupid just to people look at him, make a noise, like, do something random, smash something up, just so he got, like, attention.

1:01:17That's, yeah, just completely... Is it fireworks in his house or something? Fireworks. Oh, yeah. The old Carrington training ground, there was, like, a window at the top where there was a dartboard and the gym was below and he'd be throwing darts at people as they're walking through the gym and stuff like that. Oh, my God. Do you think he ever reached his full potential? Nah. No. How good was he? Yeah, he was. I mean, yeah, he could finish. He's probably one of the best penalty takers I've seen, to be fair. I've never seen him miss one in training for years. Because he was one of the first to really watch the keeper.

1:01:50And if someone does that well, you can't stop it, can you? If the keeper moves, he's going the other way. If he don't move, he's got a hard enough shot. Is he a stutter or is he a straight places? No, he just walked and looked at the keeper. and if the keeper moved, he put it in the other corner. If the keeper didn't move, he had a hard enough side foot that the keeper was never getting it. And then he actually moved to Milan, I think, and he missed his first penalty. I couldn't believe it. But Harty must have been in net for about a thousand penalties to him. I think he saved two. It must have been frustrating for you at the time.

1:02:21He was a nightmare. Because so much attention went on him and things like that. And distractions that you didn't need at times, critical times. he'd come in in a camouflaged Bentley, which he actually backed into my car and I watched him do it and then denied it in front of me. But yeah, you know, to be fair, I found him all right. Like he was all right with me. Like if I ever gave it out to him or anything like that, he could say I was doing what I was asking him to do. So he didn't really complain. To be fair, I always got on with him. Okay, he was crazy, but scored some important goals for City and famous, obviously, the famous assist, isn't he?

1:03:00He's the only assist he got. Yeah. And I think Mancini had a little bit of an understanding with him, didn't he? A little bit. They had a fight there. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, but I think it was like one of them love-hate things with them two. Yeah, 100%. Do you know what I mean? It wasn't like he wasn't having him. Oh, no, yeah. Did Mancini used to go into working on a bike? He did, yeah. But then I think he had his personal assistant driving behind him so if he got tired he could put his car on. Really? That is golden, isn't it? How great is that? Just in case I get knackered. Oh, Ryan's died there.

1:03:37Just follow me. My favourite Balotelli thing I'd heard is he got pulled over by the police in Manchester and he had a massive wad of money on him and they went, hey, what are you doing with all that money on you? And he went, I'm rich.

1:03:56It's like, fair enough. I'm rich. It's a bell said that, isn't it? Harry, Arsenal fam. What was the worst day you had in football, excluding match day?

1:04:14Worst day? Yeah, I've got an example here. I don't know if Harry's put this in. He says, was it when Colo Torre put you through a fence? Ah, yeah, I had broken ribs at the time. yeah two broken ribs I've been playing with them for like a few months and lads all knew and he just decided to wallop me in training and like yeah straight I was getting injections for games and that lasted for about an hour and then it wore off and you've done well playing with broken ribs that is the worst yeah it's horrible I brought my white out of lane at the whole end I brought my newcastle is it in a challenge yeah I couldn't I just thought I couldn't breathe I couldn't I couldn't breathe I was like no you're going like never tell you when you're getting shooting pains laugh or sneeze you're in big trouble but it was the same guy, we played a game at City and I think I had six stitches in my head, broke two ribs and then I was waiting for my car after the game, they bring cars down and I was there a bit and I was like, surely it's mine now, I've been waiting a while there, I thought something's not right here and the person who brought it down had ploughed it into a bollard

1:05:20that was a bad day got a few more of these Adam Celtic fan what's the biggest bollocking you ever got erm oh I don't know tough one that I think I remember one I can't imagine you getting bollocked not much I remember one you might have been playing actually when Glenn Roder gave me one Glenn Roder yeah Glenn Roder gave me one erm for being lazy and I was thinking afterwards and I was like doesn't sound like me that and then he pulled me the day after and said erm sorry erm I just had to dig one and someone out to like put a bit of presence on it and obviously didn't want to dig out any big guys.

1:05:58So I ended up getting it. So that was one. And then I remember Jürgen. Jürgen was having a go and said a couple of things back and he smashed his hand down on the thing in the middle of the dressing room and said, will you shut the fuck up? Was you an answer backer? No, not normally. Not normally, I'd take it. But I think if it was a point, it's not just like, you know sometimes if it's like whatever there's not to answer that but if it's a tactical yeah or if there's a reason behind it I wasn't just I'd never just go back because you can't say anything to me I'm never wrong it wasn't one of them it was like I believe whatever it was I believe this was happening because of this there are some players who like that though aren't there they're never ever wrong no it's never their fault really do you want to name any?

1:06:44Peter Schmeichel Peter Schmeichel I was going to say no he's coming out from a similar part of the world I played with at Villa and they were the same never them it was never our fault yeah as a leader the amount of times I used to get as well I used to get off the mind you you was an arguer as well you put one more word out of you and you sold and I'd go fucking fucking fucking you was never wrong I was always wrong but I used to I used to get bollocks every single week just to come from I just look at you I just get eye contact but is it like what James said though he knew there were certain players that he could put it on to show the others no it wasn't with me it was because he brought us up from 12.

1:07:22He thought he could just bollock us and he wanted to really. I got a bollocking off Eric Harrison who was like one of our heroes. I'll never forget it. He brought me off an A-team game at the Cliff and I scored two goals. He brought me off. I said, you, you're coming off. The lights are on but no one's in. He said to me, bollocking me. And I'm thinking, I've just scored two goals. Next morning, a bit like James, get brought in to his office. I'm thinking, here we go. and he wouldn't answer Eric back at 16 and he said I'm really sorry I thought you was Simon Davis you got him mixed up you got him mixed up you got him mixed up one of the players I was like oh right because I remember at the night time my dad's saying well you must have done because like back in then days the parents used to always think the coaches or teachers were always right and it was like well you must have done something wrong he brought you up I said I don't know what I've done wrong I was thinking I was playing well we had some bollocking bollocking stuff Eric he chased me on a pitch once in Switzerland on the 16th tournament Speaking about Wrong player Kiddo He obviously Now Well he brought Wrong player off When he was Assistant at City Didn't he Yeah Mancini was sat there And they've done sub And he's like Must have been off Talking to a player And he's come and sat down And I can't remember Was it Nasri or something And he's come over And he's like Triple take And what the hell Are you doing here Kiddo's like This fumbling Too late To talk about it Wrong player off Kiddo's best fumblers When you know You used to get We used to have A little sitting room In the Like the players lounge Before the games And you'd be having a coffee and stuff waiting for an hour and a half to get there too early and you just they come down thinking they shout Nicky the manager once you know you're dropped or you're not playing on the scores and on the way out Kido will go out to him it's a joke this you should be playing you should be having a word with him he'll be winding you all up to go into it the best one was actually in a dressing room where the team Kido knows the team he knows who's playing so the manager names the team and you look over at Kido no I'm not playing I can't believe that I thought he was playing behind the gaffer's fucking bed.

1:09:19I thought he was playing and he was going knock on his door. He's like that, knock on his fucking door, knock on his door. You fucking bastard. Here's one Matthew, Southampton fan. What's your death row meal? Oh, good question. Start of Maine's dessert. Start, tempura prawns. Oh, maybe. Sweet chilli sauce on the side. Yeah, I'll say, yeah. Maine would have to be a decent burger. like you know like not a crappy burger like a proper burger yeah it sounds good um and chips never heard burger on someone's death row me no like one of them's where it's like triple pate cheese good solid yeah good fries and what's the dessert uh apple crumble and custard oh yeah in fact just the crumble eat the fucking apple you're not a steak eat the apple oh I'm I used to do my head in that you know you'd go up for desserts and like

1:10:24what's yours what death row meal i don't know well i'll tell you what i'll come back What did I say last week? I said something last week in the food. This is probably fucking chips and egg. Sunday roast. Spam and egg. Oh, we did that in the quiz. It reminded me of Sunday roast. Yeah, I don't mind the roast. What's your starter? Prong cocktail. Oh, I'm a prawn cocktail as well. I like a bit of soup. Soup and a bread roll. What flavour? Tomato. Tomato? Cream of? Can't have tomato. Cream of, yeah. Death round meal, can't you? No, I wouldn't. Can't have a bit of orange skulls. I know. Don't worry about that.

1:10:58There's plenty of them. Roast beef dinner. and then pudding jam roly poly no apple oh my god that's good I like trifle though as well do you like trifle I love a trifle but the one with two lady fingers in the bottom I don't like the fucking fruit I like the sponge in the bottom you know what I mean yeah the old sponge fingers weirdly the cheaper the better for me same with prawn cocktails like them with them is there any fucking need for that there's fucking socks as well you put socks on next time for fuck's sake how's me asking a lovely question You turn into a fucking personal attack. Even you've jumped in.

1:11:34You won't do that at the fucking thing. Did you used to make the bird's trifle in the box? Did you make that one? No, I just buy that cheap one from supermarket. Ready to go, peel the lid off. Yeah, that's what that was. What was? The bird's trifle. No, you fucking made a bird's trifle yourself. Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying you buy one when it's a go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, there's no way on God's green earth you're making a bird's trifle. You've never made a bird's trifle in your life. I fucking made loads of Burstrifles Have you? I have made loads of Burstrifles The best trifles, Marks and Spencers I don't care what anyone says It's unbelievable Do you like the Madagascan vanilla and all that?

1:12:13No, that's what they do at Marks It's the proper good gear They call it probably the best trifle ever Yeah I have made a Burstrifle, I've made loads Alright No one's saying anything, go So you obviously get the cubes of jelly, don't you? so you have to separate them, put them in the bottom of your glass bowl, hot water, so I don't know about that much maybe, wait for it to set, and while you're waiting for it to set, you're doing the custard and you're mixing the green topping. He's missed the fingers. Oh, sorry, yeah, the sponge, you had to break them off, remember? What sponge are you using?

1:12:48It's in the packet, what do you mean? The fingers are packets. No, they're not. Yes, they are. In a bird's triangle, it's the custard powder and then the cream powder, isn't it? Yeah. You still get the fingers? You still get the fingers? In the box? No, I never knew that. You live and learn. Of course you do. You don't buy it separately, do you? I don't like trifle. You don't like fucking trifle? That's what I say. You don't like breathing. What do you put on top, though? Hundreds and thousands? Always. Hundreds and thousands. I've got one fiscal. That's how you make it. Trust me. Instead of putting them fingers in it.

1:13:18I've not done it for years, lad. Put Twix in it. A Twix. Oh, Nicky. I'm telling you. Fucking hell are you doing this? I'm a Twix. You put Twix in a fucking trifle? Is there any spongy things that I'm making? No, that's weird. Just try it. That's horrific. Try it. No, it's horrific. It doesn't even work. I always used to struggle getting the consistency right of the dream topping. Mary Berry over there. It's dead hard to do it. It's getting thick enough. And you had to whisk it for ages. You didn't have like electric whisk. Do you know what? At first I thought he would take your piss, but I think he does other things.

1:13:46I think he does me. What was your death row one? Prawn cocktail, cheap one. Orange sauce. Orange sauce? Orange sauce. Duck a little orange. Prawn cocktail? Yeah. Not orange. Orange sauce. It's Mary Rose sauce. What's it called? Yeah, that's what it's called. I can't fucking believe. Where have you been all your life? You two. What have you been eating? Oh, you're wrong, mate. You're wrong again. No, no, Prong Cocktail sauce isn't pink. It's orange. It's pink. Have you seen the jars of the Foz and Island dressing? Pink. Have you seen it? What colour is that? Pink. That's not Mary Rose sauce. No, that's still pink.

1:14:17It's orange. It's pink. Google that. Mods. I'd say pink. Yeah, we'd all say pink apart from you. Well James You lost me when you said What colour is that there? Fucking orange Which one? What's that? Pink That's fucking orange By the way The only one with glasses on is trying to tell us what we can see That's fucking orange That's pink You need to go back to the opticians The prawn's orange and the sauce is pink Prawns are red aren't they Anyhow prawn cocktail right leave the colour leave the colour it's causing too much controversy with buttered white bread for dipping in brown bread brown bread in triangles yeah triangles yeah shredded iceberg lettuce yes and then main on with Nicky roast dinner mash roasties you can't have mash on a roast dinner you can yeah you don't have mash on a roast dinner we've had this conversation before you don't you have roast potato you don't have mash You think you know someone.

1:15:23You don't have both. You don't have double spuds. You don't have that. No, you do. You don't. I can't believe you can call yourself a fucking northerner. I love mashed potatoes, but you don't have it on a Sunday, don't you? It's too much. It's too much. I'll find you a Sunday roast. Probably have at some point, but I'd probably say roast. Yeah, it's roast, yeah. You're right. Just roast potatoes. Yeah, roast potatoes, carrots, parsnips. As long as you've got Yorkshire pudding on there. Bit of white cabbage on there. Yorkies, Yorkies are the ones. I've been in Yorkshire for a start as well. Big one.

1:15:49Yeah. do you make your own pigs in blankets I'm used to it oh fantastic pigs in blankets I love a pig in a blanket you can keep them parsnips you've had a few of them haven't you no need for that and same as apple crumble and custard although when he said jam roly poly sticky toffee pudding that was not do you know who does a good jam roly poly that Aunt Bessie yeah she does she works her fingers to the fucking bone I don't know the Yorkshire puddings as well I've got them stocked up at home but Ant Bessie's Jan Rolly Polly with Ambrosia Death and Custard we've lost James we've lost him fucking shit fuck are these three on about anyway I don't like trifle we've been fucking arguing for five minutes when they were kicking me up in air all those years playing for United I never thought I'd be talking to them about trifle I must admit Life, eh?

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