In short
Preview of the 2025-26 Women’s Super League and WSL2 seasons, including fixtures, title/relegation expectations, transfer and managerial changes, and discussion of league expansion to 14 WSL teams.
Guests (panel)
Susie Rack (Guardian presenter/analyst), Tom Garry (reported managerial/transfer news), Marva Creel (football analyst; discusses club form and signings).
Key claims
- Chelsea are expected to win the WSL again; Ellie Carpenter adds depth and Sam Kerr’s return could bring early “magic.”
- Arsenal are hungry to stop Chelsea; defensive depth concerns remain (e.g., Leo Williamson injury).
- Manchester United’s squad looks thin beyond two signings (Fridolina Rolfo, Julia Zigiotti); investment is needed for depth.
- Manchester City’s new coach Andre Jurglerz (Denmark head coach) is a “wild card” after Gareth Taylor under-delivered; City want the league and Champions League.
- Leicester are most at risk of relegation due to limited investment and disruption after Amandine Mikel’s departure.
Notable examples
- Leicester appointed Rick Parsmore as interim after Mikel left 11 days before their opener vs Manchester United.
- Chelsea approached Angel City for Alyssa Thompson (no deal yet at recording).
- Brighton’s ambition to reach top four is viewed as difficult; Michelle Agyemang loaned/extended and new captain Maisie Simons named.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPanel Introduction and Off-Season Reflections
1:10 to 2:14
The hosts discuss their off-season experiences and introduce the panel.
“And that's today's Guardian Women's Football Weekly.”
New Relegation Format and WSL Changes
2:14 to 3:18
Discussion on the new relegation format and its implications for WSL and WSL2.
“Championship trophy for the second time.”
Managerial Departures and Coach Updates
3:18 to 5:29
Updates on managerial changes, focusing on Leicester City and Burnley.
“clearer quite relaxed actually because I feel like it's a decent make way for one season to expand in the leagues like one year while they grow both leagues so I'm sort of fairly relaxed about it.”
Leicester's Interim Coach Situation
5:29 to 7:13
Discussion about Rick Parsmore stepping in as Leicester's interim coach.
“my understanding is really quite simply Matt Beard and the Burnley hierarchy just didn't really see eye to eye at all.”
WSL Season Kickoff and Match Preview
7:13 to 8:27
Overview of the upcoming matches in the inaugural weekend of the WSL season.
“but the club do feel they've got a fairly steady pair of hands there to oversee them through the start of the season.”
Chelsea's Title Defense and Roster Update
8:27 to 10:13
Analysis of Chelsea's squad and their aspirations for the new season.
“Let's look at the champions, first of all, in Chelsea, because Sonia Bonpastor's side are looking for their seventh straight WSL title, which is quite incredible.”
Chelsea's Pursuit of Alyssa Thompson
10:13 to 12:11
Discussion on Chelsea's interest in signing Alyssa Thompson from Angel City.
“She's since been given absence by Angel City.”
Arsenal's New Signings and Season Goals
12:11 to 13:49
Insights into Arsenal's new signings and their ambitions for the season.
“But yeah, if Chelsea bring Thompson in, I think that will excite the player because as we've kind of alluded to, been a fairly quiet window for Chelsea up until now.”
Title Race Dynamics: Arsenal vs. Chelsea
13:49 to 14:00
Discussion on the competitive landscape between Arsenal and Chelsea for the title.
“there's a real hunger to unseat Chelsea.”
Arsenal's Title Aspirations and Defensive Concerns
14:00 to 16:00
Discussion on Arsenal's recent performance and challenges ahead in the WSL.
“I mean, that would be good for English football, that's for sure.”
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Manchester United's Transfer Strategy and Team Depth
16:00 to 18:10
Analysis of Manchester United's recent signings and the implications for their season.
“about other teams at the end of the season.”
Mark Skinner's Future and Institutional Issues
18:10 to 20:50
Exploration of Manchester United's management challenges and the need for investment.
“And I also thought that Anna Sandberg, who was a bit on the fringes last year, looked excellent at left-back.”
Manchester City's Coaching Change and Squad Strength
20:50 to 23:30
Insight into the coaching change at Manchester City and expectations for the new season.
“He came across very well and, yeah, I mean, has got a sort of rich history in women's football, was obviously at the Euros in charge of Denmark, which left out, crashed out of the group stage.”
Brighton's Ambitions and Recent Signings
23:30 to 27:50
Discussion on Brighton's goals for the season and the impact of new players.
“said that he wants an improved ambition this season but 15 points is a hell of a lot to to make up if he wants to break them into the top four.”
Maisie Simons as Brighton's New Captain
27:50 to 28:00
Overview of Maisie Simons's appointment as captain and its significance for Brighton.
“Like the names people want on the back of their shirts because they've got history in the sport.”
Brighton's Strategy and New Captain
28:00 to 29:00
Discussion on Brighton's recruitment strategy and the appointment of a young captain.
“like young, exciting talents who sort of have their career ahead, who have a point to prove, who haven't yet sort of done it.”
Looking Ahead: Predictions for Teams
29:00 to 29:34
Predictions for the upcoming season and a discussion about team performances.
“what's on your birth certificate I would say.”
Aston Villa's Season Outlook
29:57 to 32:43
Analysis of Aston Villa's past season and expectations for the new one.
“OK, so Aston Villa finished sixth last season.”
Concerns About Liverpool's Recruitment
32:43 to 36:11
Discussion on Liverpool's managerial changes and recruitment challenges.
“I'm also in just because it would be great to see Everton win a trophy in my lifetime.”
Everton's Transfer Strategy and Future
36:11 to 39:31
Exploration of Everton's squad changes and expectations for the new season.
“I think it's a really interesting project for Gareth Taylor and a real test of his managerial ability.”
West Ham's Challenges and Goals
39:31 to 42:00
Analysis of West Ham's squad changes and their goals for the upcoming season.
“I'm not even usually hesitantly positive.”
West Ham's Women's Team: A Mixed Bag
42:00 to 43:38
Discussion on the challenges facing West Ham's women's team and the need for better support.
“you know, combined squad value of the players at West Ham, I'd put them in a bracket with Tottenham and Leicester as being like the bottom three on paper, that kind of lazy term.”
Leicester's Woes: A Season of Uncertainty
43:38 to 46:08
Exploration of Leicester's struggles and managerial changes affecting their season outlook.
“We've already touched on Leicester, Rick Passmore, in interim charge at the moment.”
Spurs Under New Management
46:08 to 47:55
Analysis of Spurs' new manager Martin Ho and his ambitions for the team.
“just one player in with Toko Koga from Feyenoord.”
London City Lionesses: Newcomers with Ambition
47:55 to 52:04
Discussion about the London City Lionesses’ new signings and their ambitions in WSL.
“and if they can avoid injury to Beth England in particular, then I think they might be OK.”
Exciting Season Ahead in WSL2
52:04 to 56:03
Insights into the upcoming WSL2 season and teams to watch out for.
“But I am going to ask you for your quick fire predictions.”
Excitement for the Upcoming WSL Season
56:03 to 56:46
Discussion on the growing engagement in women's football and anticipation for the new season.
“in the kind of growing of the club from the academy levels up, I think you're going to see a lot of those fans also tune in to WSL Tour to see those lone players.”
Champions League and Pod Reflections
56:46 to 57:12
Reflection on Champions League qualification and excitement about the season's start.
“Right, we mentioned Champions League qualification with Manchester United in action, didn't we?”
Fantasy League Plans for the Season
57:12 to 58:08
Hosts discuss their fantasy league and commitment to improving from last season.
“By the way, I also want to let you all know, in fact, I think Susie should because she is the protagonist in this.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Faye Carruthers:This is The Guardian.
0:33Suzy Wrack:Hello, I'm Faye Carruthers and welcome to the Guardian Women's Football Weekly. Well, that was the shortest off-season ever, wasn't it? But we are back after the Lionesses' triumph in Switzerland and we've missed you as well. The new look 2025-26 season kicks off on Friday. And of course, we're casting our eye over the WSL and WSL2 teams to bring you a preview of what to expect over the coming months. Who's recruited well? Who's not recruited at all? Who are the favourites to win and get relegated? What players should we be looking out for? And how is everyone shaping up? There is so much to delve into, plus we'll take your questions.
1:10Suzy Wrack:And that's today's Guardian Women's Football Weekly.
1:15Suzy Wrack:What a panel we have today. Susie Rack, I've genuinely missed you. How are you? I've missed you. And it's too soon. Why are we back so soon? I know, it's terrifying, isn't it? I don't know where the time goes at the moment. How are you, Tom Gary? I'm loving the slick new haircut.
1:31Faye Carruthers:I'm very well, thank you. It feels like only five weeks since the Euros. Oh wait, it's only five weeks since the Euros.
1:39Suzy Wrack:There's not enough time, surely. Marva Creel, how are you doing? I'm doing well, thank you. I feel like I'm ready to get back into football. I only need five weeks. it feels too soon for everyone however once we're back in the swing of things it will be very exciting and we've got lots of changes as well this season uh we're back and so are the barclays wsl and the new look wsl2 in just a few days time and you know i don't think any of us can fully believe it's just a few weeks on from that night in basel when england lifted the european Championship trophy for the second time. It has been a busy off season though hasn't it?
2:19Suzy Wrack:Transfer windows open until Thursday night. Managerial merry-go-round is making me feel dizzy already. Ball's not even been kicked yet and of course there's a new relegation format helping the WSL to expand to 14 teams ahead of next season. I just want to remind you all of the changes actually because it feels ages ago since we spoke about it. The top two teams in the WSL 2 at the end of the season will get automatic promotion and the bottom side in the WSL will then face the third place finisher in the WSL 2 for the final spot in the top division. So to get the WSL 2 up to the right number then, the winners of the FA Women's National League Northern and Southern Premier are going to be automatically promoted while the runners up in either division are going to face each other for the third spot.
3:08Suzy Wrack:So that means that just one team is going to be relegated into tier three next season we shall see if it works as well I know we covered it at the end of last season Susie but how do you feel about the decision now everything is a little bit clearer quite relaxed actually because I feel like it's a decent make way for one season to expand in the leagues like one year while they grow both leagues so I'm sort of fairly relaxed about it. I actually think, relatively speaking, it's probably one of the best options they could have come up with. There's no long-term pause of relegation, no steps towards removing it completely or anything like that, which I think was everyone's biggest fear.
3:48Suzy Wrack:So this sort of make way to expansion, I think, being one season long isn't too bad. And a really nice opportunity for teams in WSL2, which is a little bit bottlenecked at times and in the National League to come up is a great thing. Yeah, we are going to go through all the individual clubs shortly, but one other big piece of news to cover. Tom, you reported the first managerial departure of the season in The Guardian on Wednesday, Leicester City parting ways with Omandine McHale and her assistant. Obviously, that then means that the rumour mill goes into overdrive, especially with the departure of Matt Beard from Burnley after just two months.
4:27Suzy Wrack:And actually, I just want to touch on that because we had an email from Burnley fan Megan Mooney during the summer break. This is what she had to say. Hi, pod. Long time listening. First time emailer. Love that. Strong chance I've missed it somewhere. But why is no one talking about Matt Beard going to Burnley? The man who until midseason last season was in the WSL, the man who won manager of the year of the WSL not that long ago. Now he's manager of Burnley in the third tier of women's football. Burnley have been so close on a number of occasions now getting promoted and have decided this year to splash the cash with the team being made full time and employing Mr Beard.
5:04Suzy Wrack:And maybe it's the Sean Dyche little old Burnley tagline. But if someone like David Moyes went to Stockport, that would be massive news. Anyway, I'd love you to mention it at least, if not give an opinion on it. Thank you. Megan, forever claret, Mooney. And then she followed up with another email. And now he's gone. That didn't last very long, Tom, did it? What is the latest?
5:26Faye Carruthers:Yeah, that was a huge appointment by Burnley and then quite a dramatic departure. my understanding is really quite simply Matt Beard and the Burnley hierarchy just didn't really see eye to eye at all. There was, as we understand it, an approach from Leicester to try and talk to him two or three weeks ago now, but that was declined by Burnley. And to be brutally honest with you, I believe that's quite a separate issue to what's happening at Leicester, where they have parted company with Amandine Mikel, but they did it last Wednesday with just 11 days to go for their first game, which probably came as a bit of a shock to quite a few lesser supporters.
6:01Faye Carruthers:But from our understanding, just, you know, the head coach there, Mikel, and the board, and particularly the new head of women's football, Lee Billiard, perhaps weren't really quite aligned on everything, on strategy. And, you know, when a new head of women's football comes in, Lee Billiard, formerly of Aston Villa and Bristol City as well, will have his own ideas of who he wants to be in charge. At the moment, I'm certainly not expecting Matt Beard to become the next Leicester manager imminently. That's not our understanding. I understand why those two things have been linked together, but that's not our understanding.
6:35Faye Carruthers:We can reveal on the pod this morning that actually, as of right now, Leicester brought in Rick Parsmore as their interim coach in the build-up to their opening game against Manchester United. He was brought in the day after Mikel's departure. He's been overseeing training. He ever saw a friendly against London City Lionesses a couple of days ago. He's a well-known to WSL, former Notts County manager, and most recently the assistant manager at West Ham. So I think Leicester feel they've got a sort of safe pair of hands there. But what I honestly am not in a position to tell you is exactly how long he will be the interim coach for or what the kind of longer-term plan is.
7:09Faye Carruthers:There's quite a big amount of silence at Leicester behind the scenes at the moment, but the club do feel they've got a fairly steady pair of hands there to oversee them through the start of the season. Huge talking point, right? A managerial change for a ball has been kicked. But I think we do see this often when there is a sort of a new person in charge of the women's department that they maybe like to have put their own stamp on things. And I think that's probably what we're seeing here.
7:35Suzy Wrack:Yeah, he's got good pedigree in the women's game. Rick Passmore has been around for a long time. We shall see. We will keep you updated as to what's going on there. And let's have a look at the rest of the WSL as well, because can you believe it? the 25-26 campaign gets underway on Friday night at Stamford Bridge. Champions Chelsea kicking everything off in a blockbuster encounter with Manchester City. Arsenal will then host newly promoted London City Lionesses who've been busy in the transfer window. That's at the Emirates on Saturday. On Sunday, there's then a London derby as Tottenham hosts West Ham and a Merseyside derby up at Anfield with Liverpool against Everton while Manchester United will face Leicester and Brighton take on Aston Villa.
8:20Suzy Wrack:So let's see how each club is shaping up against what we hope is going to be another enthralling campaign. Let's look at the champions, first of all, in Chelsea, because Sonia Bonpastor's side are looking for their seventh straight WSL title, which is quite incredible. They are the dominant force in England. How, Marva, are they shaping up ahead in the new season? I think they're shaping up very well in the sense that what much should they need to change, really? I think for most teams you would say you always need a bit of freshening up you always need to add some big signings but I think for them to add Ellie Carpenter just really adds that extra depth we already saw that depth but I think defence was the one part of their game where you did think that sometimes you had Lucy Bronze moving into centre-back and to have someone like Ellie Carpenter come in I don't want to say you're back up right back because with Chelsea it doesn't really work like that they just rotate so well but it is interesting that they haven't sort of really splashed out on anything well on anyone new but then you look at their January Chancellor window that's just gone and you think well yeah they don't really need to so I'm quite excited to see a team that has already gelled so well already has so much depth going into this next season and just sort of seeing how much they can kind of expand on that in a way that isn't meshing those new players together and like they're just so good and then you've got Sam Kerr hopefully to come back in a way that isn't just new Sam Kerr in a bad sense in terms of an injury ridden Sam Kerr.
9:52Suzy Wrack:I really hope we see some of the magic that we have seen with her in the league because she is just such a special player and I don't even mean just in terms of how she plays but just the moments she adds to this league I really want to see a big Sam Kerr moment early on. so yeah so much to look forward to with them and I just I just still think they're just going to be the ones to be I can't see I really can't see them not not winning the league this year oh good goodness me surely surely well I'll speak to Susie about Arsenal in a second because I reckon Susie's going to have something to say about that potentially so Ellie Carpenter is that kind of big signing of the summer but but Tom you reported that the club were in the hunt for USA star Alyssa Thompson as well.
10:37Suzy Wrack:She's since been given absence by Angel City. What can you tell us on this one?
10:42Faye Carruthers:Yeah, watch this space. Big sort of 48 hours to go in the transfer window. And last week, Chelsea, as we understand it, they made a formal approach to Angel City to try and sign Alyssa Thompson. Obviously, such an exciting young USA winger. And they, in business here, Chelsea, they're prepared to pay big money for her. At the time of talking right now, at the time of recording, There's no deal, as we understand it. There's still a little bit of distance between what Angel City would want and where Chelsea are at right now with the offer. But my growing sense with the direction of travel is that Chelsea have got quite a good chance of getting this over the line.
11:17Faye Carruthers:They've still got a little bit of time. Yet, as you say, she was given what the NWSL called an excused absence to not play last night in their game against BFC, which is actually the same term they gave to a couple of other players who left Angel City recently when Katie Zellum and Alana Kennedy came to London City Lionesses. She's awaiting clearance and permission to travel to London. And while Thompson is certainly not behaving like Alexander Isak by any stretch of the imagination, I do get the sense she would quite like this transfer. And when that sort of thing happens, they tend to become a bit more likely.
11:53Faye Carruthers:So watch this space. It would need to be huge money, realistically. Could it be a new world record possibly. If you think about the fact that we've seen a million pounds paid for a similar profile young brilliant winger in Olivia Smith that's probably the kind of benchmark that we're talking as a minimum. So let's see. But yeah, if Chelsea bring Thompson in, I think that will excite the player because as we've kind of alluded to, been a fairly quiet window for Chelsea up until now.
12:22Suzy Wrack:Exciting times as a Chelsea fan. Four players in six players out and then about five out on loan so far. And I wonder what the Arsenal, the resident Arsenal fan feels about it all. Because, you know, Olivia Smith, obviously the headline signing of the summer coming in on a one million transfer fee for Arsenal. We've discussed that already, Susie. How do you see her and some of the other arrivals to Arsenal fitting into René Slager's plans? I mean, one of the things that Arsenal needed most was depth. They've struggled for a number of years to stay competitive in all four competitions so like I don't think just these few additions will make a huge huge difference to what they do but I think they'll just be able to rotate a little bit more have a little bit more injury protection that kind of thing so you know there's decisions to make about who starts is it Olivia Smith is it of the forward line Chloe is it Beth Mead is it Alessia Russo they've got a wealth of options and experience in those positions so but they needed that they've struggled in in maintaining competitiveness across four competitions and that's that's what they're looking for they're looking for consistency they want the league like I think one of the interesting things about speaking to people around Arsenal and around Man City in this pre-season is they do not want Chelsea to win the league again they are adamant that they are going to be stopped which is a big task because Chelsea don't lose.
13:47Suzy Wrack:Yeah, I thought that was really interesting is that there is a real, there's a real hunger to unseat Chelsea. It's fascinating, isn't it? Because they've got the trophy that Chelsea cover more than anything in terms of the Champions League. And maybe they'll swap this season. I mean, that would be good for English football, that's for sure. And I wonder how much confidence that's going to give them Marva actually winning the Champions League and and making them believe that they can mount a serious title challenge this time round. Yeah, definitely. I think not just so much as what it means to win a title like that, but even in the manner in which they played, that defensive performance, I don't think anyone really expected from Arsenal, especially having watched them so many times throughout the WSL.
14:31Suzy Wrack:And I think where they have often gone wrong is in those big matchups. And when you look at them against Chelsea and when the title's on the line, and surely they now go into that with so much confidence going in a you know one-off game whoever we play in this league we can get a result but then you look at their lead up to the Champions League and they conceded nine goals in the WSL against was it Brighton and Villa and you go oh this is where Arsenal's problem has been it's almost I don't want to just say sort of concentration and not not focusing on kind of those smaller games I think it actually more comes down to defensive depth and you look at you know the Leo Williamson injury and I just think as a whole sometimes their centre-back pairing it doesn't feel like they've really got that that solicity that other clubs do have so I think that that is where they're possibly going to be slightly worried in terms of coming up against Chelsea but to beat Barcelona in that manner in that defensive manner you surely have to take so much confidence from that and go well not just from their team but from their manager as well to go that was such an incredibly tactical performance that we have to trust this manager and we know that she can deliver something that almost none of us really quite expected her to do and I think that's going to give you so much confidence going into the season.
15:51Suzy Wrack:There's nothing better is there than a trophy lift that wasn't expected you know and potentially if Chelsea don't win the WSL title that we could be saying that about other teams at the end of the season. Their first three fixtures, London City Lionesses, West Ham and Manchester United. So you'd like to think the Rennes-Leggers can get some points on the board to begin with. Let's look at Manchester United. A couple of Swedish internationals that they've brought in in the transfer window. Julia Zigiotti from Bayern Munich and Fridolina Rolfa from Barcelona. Look, there was so much heat on Mark Skinner last season.
16:29Suzy Wrack:Tom, wasn't there. they're obviously involved in Champions League qualifications. So we actually kind of have had a little bit of a sneak peek about how his team is shaping up. They've beaten PSV, Eindhoven and Hammerby already. What have you made of them in the early stages?
16:45Faye Carruthers:Mixed opinions from me here. Those two signings, Rolfo and Zigotti, are both excellent additions. I really like both of them. I think they're top quality signings. The problem is there's only two of them. I think all of us expected significantly more additions at Manchester United. If you want to be able to compete domestically and on the continent, if they want to make a real go at being part of the Champions League, they've still got a couple more days to go. We think they're still looking for the forward and a right back as well to bolster the kind of defensive options because Itha Mannion left, of course, as well.
17:19They haven't really placed her.
17:21Faye Carruthers:But even with that, I sort of expected more. I thought that the squad looked thin on the ground against PSV and against Hammerby. They played quite well in both of those games, particularly the first one against PSV. But it was the lack of depth on the bench that I think would be the most concerning for Manchester United fans. So to give you an example, they've got the next round of qualifying. They'll go away to SK Bran on the Thursday, I think. And then on the Sunday, they'll go travel away to London City Lionesses. a bit of a banana skin off the back of a trip to Norway. And is that the kind of game where, unless they've bolstered the depth a bit more, we might see them slip up?
18:00Faye Carruthers:Maybe. That would be my worry if I was a Manchester United supporter, that there's not quite the depth there to compete on both fronts. But there were encouraging signs. Turland's in great form. But Elatoon looked really good. Bizet was playing well. And I also thought that Anna Sandberg, who was a bit on the fringes last year, looked excellent at left-back. So maybe a break for Bruglia from her. So let's see. I'm sounding like Natalie and Bruglia there, aren't I? I'm torn. But there are positives and negatives at the moment for them, I think, going into the new season.
18:34Suzy Wrack:Where do you think they're at, Susie? You know, I think this pod has been relatively critical at times of Mark Skinner last season. What does he need to do to push Manchester United on? Investment. I think Tom's completely right in that, you know, yes, they're two very good signings that they brought in, but it's not enough. And the reputation that the club has now, I think, isn't great. Men's and women's, like, it's a bit shambolic in pretty much every aspect. And whilst Skinner, you know, bears the brunt of the blame quite a lot, I think it needs to be placed higher up a lot more as well. and you know I think there's yeah shared responsibility there but you can't really be too harsh on someone when they're not being given enough resource they can't compete on four fronts they have I would say been very lucky with injuries in the past couple of years I think if United had two or three players significant players out injured they would struggle to maintain the level they've maintained I don't know what they're doing to be able to keep everyone fit but that's that is what has been impressive for me for them is that they haven't had a major injury crisis of sorts yet but like you know surely one is around the corner at some point so yeah investment is the key well they've got some money haven't they from the world sevens weren't they runners up didn't they get a million million dollars something like that maybe we'll see it ramped up when the men's window closes as we record it closed on monday night it's now Tuesday morning, so maybe the next three days.
20:06Suzy Wrack:That's where attention will turn. We shall see. Let's cross over to Manchester City. A new man in the dugout, Andre Jurglerz, previously Denmark's head coach. He's taken the reins. What are you expecting from him, Susie? I met him. And what was he like? He was very nice. They had a fantastic little event for the media at the Academy Stadium, or the J Stadium with sort of speed dating for journalists with the senior leadership team of the women's set up, including the manager. And it was a really interesting thing. We've got a tour of their new building as well, which they're building exclusively for the women's team.
20:47Suzy Wrack:And it was really cool to see. He came across very well and, yeah, I mean, has got a sort of rich history in women's football, was obviously at the Euros in charge of Denmark, which left out, crashed out of the group stage. But it was agreed when he took the role that he would continue to do that job. So, I mean, it's going to be interesting. They needed a change. There was a lot of frustration that Gareth Taylor had been in for quite some time, but significantly under-delivered for where they expect to be as a club generally. I think they won one trophy in that time, and that's not really what they want to be doing.
21:23Suzy Wrack:So it was a change that was needed. I think it's going to be interesting to see how he fit in. And he seemed to be very happy with the playing group he had, was starting to get some of his European champions back. So who knows what they're going to look like come the start of the season. But the strength of the squad, I think, is really good. And yeah, I'm quite excited to see what they can do. They want the league. They want to unseat Chelsea. They really want to do it. And no doubt they want Champions League football again because they don't have Champions League football this time around. That does give them advantage in the league.
21:54Suzy Wrack:We've seen that before, Tom, haven't we?
21:56Faye Carruthers:yeah the last time they didn't have Champions League football to kind of juggle they missed out on the title on goal difference and should have won the league so I think they're the wild card in this title race scenario right now it's as Susie alluded to like the squad's still got so much quality Bunny Shaw, Viv Miedemar, Caroline, Lauren Hemp, Hasegawa, Sidney Lohman coming in is such a good signing Jess Park my one worry would be that they lost Alexanderly so there's quite a lot of onus now on either someone like Jade Rose coming in or Rebecca Kanak to step up and make sure the defence doesn't weaken with her going but overall it's still a really dangerous team and when they get the best 11 out they can beat anyone so let's see but I'm fascinated to see what they can do and are we going to see the Yeglerts who sort of flopped at Denmark or are we going to see the Yeglets who won the Champions League with Emea like 21, 22 years ago.
22:52Faye Carruthers:So who knows? They're fascinating and it will be a really interesting season with Man City.
22:58Suzy Wrack:I'm also really excited to see Iman Beni as well. She's only 19 and we got to see her at the Euros for Switzerland and she was brilliant. How she fits into City and how much game time she actually gets, particularly in this first season, I think is in the air. But she was such an exciting player to watch a really really really exciting young talent I'm really fascinated to see how Brighton are going to do this season quite a lot of flux in the team they finished fifth last last season which is incredible but they were 15 points behind Manchester City in fourth so Dario Vidozic has said that he wants an improved ambition this season but 15 points is a hell of a lot to to make up if he wants to break them into the top four.
23:43Suzy Wrack:How do you see them faring, Marva? I think breaking into that top four is incredibly, incredibly hard. Any team who comes fifth and then the next season, if they maintain fifth or still challenging in that area of the league, I still think that's a very good next season. I think to close that gap is going to need something think very very special and a really sustained effort over many many seasons so I wouldn't look at Brighton's ambition and say if they don't close that gap then it's a failed season or anything like that I think what we started to see with them is a really clear identity in the way that they play football that often sometimes works their disadvantage in the way that they played out from the back and they conceded many many goals last season I don't think they've massively added to their squad depth but I do think they've really helped their starting 11 and some a few big signings there but I still don't know if what they've brought in this transfer window is going to massively help them sustain over the next few years I think when you are like really competing for that that fifth spot that elusive fifth spot that we talk about in the WSL that kind of means nothing but everyone still tries to get we've seen it with lots of teams over the years and you need to bring in so much more than you almost think you do because then every team below adds so much more.
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25:05Suzy Wrack:And this was really a team that was struggling in terms of, like I said, conceding goals. And I just think, obviously, Adjomane coming in is going to be massive for them, even in terms of a marketing sense. We saw the explosion of the WSL after the Euro 2022 and teams like Arsenal and Chelsea really benefiting from that. And I think it's great that a team like Brighton can really, really benefit from that in a superstar. Before you jump in, Susie, I do need to explain to people that that has happened because we didn't mention it within Arsenal. Because she had such an incredible Euros, Michelle Adjumang, and made such an enormous impact, and we've already known her talent anyway, I think many people were expecting her to stay at Arsenal and fight for her place.
25:45Suzy Wrack:And I think you had said that you probably thought she'd go back out on loan. How much of a coup is it for Brighton to get her? It's great as long as they play her, which I think they have to now, I think, given what she did at the Euros. I think that would have been a requirement that Arsenal said has to happen for this loan to happen, because I don't think they would have sent her there again if she was going to get the same playing time that she did last season, which for the quality of player she is isn't enough. But it's quite good because I think it means she gets to settle into a more first team role with a little bit less of a harsh spotlight on her.
26:20Suzy Wrack:You know, obviously Arsenal will be attempting to compete on four fronts. Like they've got such a talent-heavy squad. Like breaking into that, building any consistency is a really, really difficult thing to do. So she needs that at her young age to be able to progress to the next level. I think that's, you know, it's a great move. The thing I was going to say about Brighton and all teams that sort of, you know, finish fifth and then have ambitions of breaking into the top four is it always fails. and the problem is is you need as marva said a massive squad overhaul to be able to have the talent level of those top four teams but you have to do such a squad overhaul that then that massively is uh disruptive as well so we've seen you know aston villa everton teams like that who have had these massive sort of 8 10 12 player overhauls in the last however many years of the wsl than have terrible seasons the following year because you're basically disrupting the momentum that got you there and then having to climb up.
27:24Suzy Wrack:The one thing I'd add on Brighton signings, I again agree with Marva on the fact that they haven't done enough business. But at the same time, what I really like is the profile of the players they're signing this time because previously they went for the big women's football names who weren't necessarily at the peak of their career or playing regular football. So, you know, this summer they've let go of Forrest Dottier, Vicky Lassada, Nikita Paris, players like that who come with big profile, right? Like the names people want on the back of their shirts because they've got history in the sport.
27:55Suzy Wrack:And instead, this time round, they've got in Aja Man, obviously her loan extended, but Rosa Kafadji, Mace Mappombe, like young, exciting talents who sort of have their career ahead, who have a point to prove, who haven't yet sort of done it. so that's what excites me a little bit about that I would say seems to be like a bit of a shift in terms of strategy of the type of player they want to sign and they're getting in some really really good players that that could really excite this season I would say. If any club invests in their women's team it's Brighton and I kind of think that they will be the next club that that breaks into the top four but as you say it takes time doesn't it but well I have a little bit and I'm very sorry and we will get to our predictions very shortly by the way.
28:43Suzy Wrack:Maisie Simons has been named their new captain, 22 years old. That's a big statement actually. She is their longest serving player. Got her first Lionesses call up last campaign but that's very young to be captain but we have seen it before and you know if you are a mature leader it doesn't matter what's on your birth certificate I would say. Right that's it for part one. In part two we're going to look at the rest of the teams how they're shaping up for the new season and of course we are going to be bringing you our brilliant always completely accurate and wonderful predictions as well
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29:56Suzy Wrack:Welcome back to part two of the Guardian Women's Football Weekly. OK, so Aston Villa finished sixth last season. So we're going to run our eye over them at the moment. Bit of a rollercoaster campaign, I think it's fair to say. But Natalia Arroyo did start to steady the ship, didn't she? They did flirt with relegation for the first part of the season, but it was a strong finish in the end and an opportunity, perhaps, Tom, for her to show what she's all about now that she's got the start of the season.
30:28Faye Carruthers:yeah Villa finished the campaign in excellent form probably didn't want the season to finish really and could take some real momentum into this season I like what they've done in the summer like I think we're really pleased to see Ellie Roebuck get that chance they've got good players who were there last time like Chastity Grant looked electric uh you know Joe Bangs looked good as well and they've generally got a bit of a positive vibe about them at the moment brought in Maggie Murphy formerly of Lewis to kind of oversee things behind the scenes which is a great appointment I think everyone who's worked in the women's game would agree comes with excellent reputation from her work previously at Lewis so exciting times for Aston Villa the challenge that they're going to have which I think all of these teams are talking about now are going to have is just trying to take that step up is really difficult what I suppose I would love to see from a team like Villa which we haven't seen before is to have a good cup run like a genuinely good get to the final type of cup run because the domestic cups have been so boringly dominated by the the three who always win or four sort of who normally win them particularly the league cup like only three teams have won the league cup like for goodness sake let's have a bit of variety so my calling to whether it be Villa or Brighton who we're just talking about and all those kind of teams in the middle of the table can someone please have a really good cup run and do something fun to kind
31:52Suzy Wrack:of mix things up a little bit I love that call to action to all clubs I mean I think they're probably trying Tom you wouldn't go into the cup competition otherwise this is true but I suppose
32:05Faye Carruthers:what I'm also trying to say is at times it's felt as though the league games are still the priority like and and almost like teams are prioritizing the idea of trying to finish sixth rather than finish eighth where's the eternal triumph in finishing like fifth come on like or even fourth in this league to be fair well true true but let's i would hope that they'll start to make some of those cup games the priority and that may hopefully like their bosses on the boards and heads of women's football will forgive them if they lose a subsequent league game and finish seventh rather than fifth but like can someone have some fun and have a real crack at our cup please.
32:43Suzy Wrack:I'm also in just because it would be great to see Everton win a trophy in my lifetime. So I'm very much there. We're not that enthusiastic about it, Marv. I think that's stretching it. No, I wouldn't do that to you. It's not stretching it too far at all. Let's look at Liverpool because unfortunately they did finish above you last season, much as I know that you will be upset about that. And I'm now going to make you talk about them as well, I'm afraid. Gareth Taylor named the new manager just a few weeks ago. What did you make of that decision? I don't think it's a bad appointment, actually. He obviously was a slightly controversial figure amongst Man City fans and it depends what kind of Gareth Taylor we see.
33:22Suzy Wrack:But I think in amongst all the sort of controversy of, you know, the Colony Kelly debacle and everything, we're kind of forgetting what, you know, a huge WSL pedigree manager he is and the experience that he can bring to a team like Liverpool and also just that playing style that he brings with him. For Liverpool as a whole, like I've said it last season, and it isn't just because I'm a Melbourne fan. I was a bit worried about them. I say worried in inverted commas, but because it seems like they got rid of a lot of their squads to bring in Olivia Smith, and now they've got rid of Olivia Smith.
33:52Suzy Wrack:And it doesn't seem like they've really then capitalised on that and brought in the kind of big signings to make up for that, particularly when you consider that the season beforehand and the transfer window beforehand, they also lost a lot of their sort of squad players. I'm a bit worried that they're not really going in with massive momentum or kind of many things to really hold on to in terms of excitement. Obviously, their Sam Kerr signing did well. I think they've renewed a lot of old players who helped build that squad. You look at Enderby, who was also a good sort of bright spark in their season last season.
34:24Suzy Wrack:But that's a lot of pressure to put on a player like Kerr. And you kind of look around to the rest of their squad and there isn't that massive kind of excitement. And the thing that really excited them last season is, of course, Olivia Smith which of course okay you lose a massive player it happens but sometimes you get teams who get a massive chunk of money in and you can actually rebuild a team based on that and obviously chance wind isn't closed yet but we haven't quite seen the signs that that's something they're going to do in terms of in fact Liverpool men's teams do it very well where they sold some of their biggest players and just really spent that money so well and rebuilt their team and I just don't think we've seen the sign of that yet what have we seen the men's team spend over£400 million in this transfer window?
35:06Suzy Wrack:Not so much this transfer window, but previous transfer windows when they've lost like Suarez, for example, and then just like massively rebuilt their front three. But this season, yeah. I mean, obviously it's crazy money. We know the difference between men's and women's football. But, you know, if you get a million pound windfall from Olivia Smith, you would expect it to be reinvested into the squad. But we know, don't we, previously Liverpool haven't invested in their women's side. Are they going to do it this time? or should we be concerned again, Susie? Oh, I think we should always be concerned because they've never shown a huge commitment to the side, particularly not for a team that is so competitive and big spending in the men's game to not take its women's team very seriously at all, to be OK when they were relegated.
35:52It's just really, really disappointing.
35:55Suzy Wrack:When you look at their signings compared to their outgoings, the loss of Taylor Hines and Olivia Smith are huge, huge blows, the two key areas of the pitch. And they've not really matched that level of player with the incomings, really. So that is a massive disappointment. I think it's a really interesting project for Gareth Taylor and a real test of his managerial ability. Obviously, he was in the Manchester City Academy. He got the Manchester City first team job. This is his first test sort of free from the City group to see what he can actually do as a manager, not constrained by the sort of slight rigidity of the way City do things and play and set up and stuff.
36:35Suzy Wrack:So, and, you know, kind of throw resource at things. So it'll be interesting to see how he works as a coach with a group of players that isn't the strongest. And Marva, you're going to be hoping that the opening game is a tough one for them. You quite like this fixture. Merseyside derby is the first game of the season. How are Everton looking? You have got rid of a lot of players, brought in a lot of players. How much are you looking forward to the first game of the season? How confident are you with the business you've done? With the business we've done, I'm quite excited. I am a bit annoyed that the Mote Derby is the first game of the season because even though we have a very good record against them, we often don't start very well to the season.
37:20Suzy Wrack:We need a few games to get going. So I'm like, that's our usual, you know, we can bank on that as a three points. I don't want to miss out on that on our first game of the season. But in terms of, yeah, like you said, we have gotten rid of a lot of players and brought in a lot of players. And in that sense, it's quite hard to tell what sort of team we're going to be. But you look at the types of players that we've got rid of and brought in and it's more just sort of bodies in midfield. So it's not like, you know, we've gotten rid of loads of our key players and then brought in loads of new key players and you don't really know what you're going to get.
37:49Suzy Wrack:I think it's more a case of just boltering up that midfield. But, you know, sort of come halfway through the season and I might be going, if only we hadn't sold Justin van Haver, mate, that would have made the biggest difference. You can't really quite tell until you're in the middle of the season. But I think there are some really exciting either renewals or signings, I think. Mads Pacheco, Martina Fernandes for me particularly, I thought Fernandes was brilliant for us last season. And, you know, there's no hiding that we've had a lot of problems defensively and conceded a lot of goals over the last few years.
38:18Suzy Wrack:And I think once Fernandes got going and she's such a young centre-back, obviously it's a shame what's happening to Barcelona, which meant that we almost capitalised on their misfortunes. But I honestly think if Barcelona weren't going through that, they would not have sold her to us. She's that good of a player. And she really helped solidify our defence last season. So I'm excited. I think the biggest thing, more than any incomings, is the fact that we renewed Kelly Gago. The rumours of her leaving to PSG after six months of being with us, I just thought, here we go, of course. This is what I'm used to as an Everton fan.
38:52Suzy Wrack:And to actually not only get rid of those rumours, but actually renew her contract is huge because to have a top goal scorer in the WSL just wins you points. And I couldn't speak highly of her enough last season. The way she just transformed our team once she came in was incredible. So I'm just excited to see her. I've got some exciting signings coming in. We can't tell just yet what that midfield's exactly going to look like. We've also got Garley to come back. So I'm hesitantly positive. Hesitantly positive. And given I'm an Everton fan, that's very positive. That's a big step. I'm not even usually hesitantly positive.
39:33Brilliant.
39:35Suzy Wrack:Exciting, of course, that Goodison Park's going to be their new home this season. They're going to be playing two of their opening three matches there as well. And the owners have provided more money. so you know exciting times potentially although don't say it too loud else marvell will think we're jinxing her on purpose we are hearing as well that ruby mace is in talks for a move from leicester but we'll keep you updated on that next week window closing on thursday as a reminder right west ham so rianne skinner looking like she's lost her assistant to leicester according to Tom's news earlier on, but West Ham were a tricky side last season, weren't they?
40:17Suzy Wrack:What would you say? And actually, they've got a fairly tricky start, I would say, their first three fixtures, Tottenham, Arsenal and Brighton. What do we think are the realistic goals for West Ham this campaign, Susie? I was going to say stay up, but they should be all right on that score, given that it's very, very difficult to get relegated this season. I know that I think they're going to really struggle in the context of, you know, what other teams are doing. We said constantly throughout last season that they have a really good quality squad, like some real talent in that squad, but they're not being given enough to really kind of like step on and be able to find some consistency and things like that.
40:56Suzy Wrack:Like that's the biggest issue for me is that, you know, when you look at the quality of some of the players that they've got in their midst, you know, there's the potential there for them to do all right as sort of like a mid-table team, but it doesn't get really strengthened. I mean, you know, they've brought in a few players, but not really of the quality that's going to keep them competitive. That said, with Shakira Martinez in their squad, like, I think anything can happen and they could have an actually decent run. She's such a phenomenal talent, but it's whether her and, you know, the likes of Katrina Gorey and some of the, like, top-level international talent can keep carrying the side sort of through season on season for me.
41:34Suzy Wrack:They've trimmed a lot. Eight players out, five on loan, four in. It's going to be really interesting. Obviously, you know, lots of the departing players weren't seeing massive amounts of game time anyway. But, you know, the stability could be key. But two big London derbies starting the campaign. Maybe give us a measure of where they're at, Tom.
41:54Faye Carruthers:if you were looking at the sort of squad value, which is a strange thing to say, you know, combined squad value of the players at West Ham, I'd put them in a bracket with Tottenham and Leicester as being like the bottom three on paper, that kind of lazy term. I think they're quite reliant on Asayi and Martinez and I'd worry if anything happened to either of those two that they're a little bit vulnerable. But they did do better than everyone thought last year and I think they deserve a lot of credit for that. So I wouldn't be too worried if I was a West Ham fan, but I just get rudimentary frustrated by what appears to be a real, a lack of emotional investment from the higher-ups at West Ham.
42:36Faye Carruthers:And not just down to how infrequently they play at London Stadium, for example, but just how relatively infrequently you see some of the ball at the games. They're not alone in that. You only have to look at Manchester United, Liverpool and many others. but I'd never really got the sense that the women's team is a big priority for the club. Our colleague Matt Hughes has reported that they're in talks to sell the women's team and maybe that might be what it needs. Maybe it needs that kind of fresh impetus, making the owners of the women's club fully focused on the women's club. Maybe that's what they need to happen.
43:12Faye Carruthers:It's becoming trendy, isn't it, at the moment? Yeah, it's the modern thing to do to kind of help you run a short-term fix for your men's team's PSR, but also I kind of think for the women's teams, if it does bring in an independent authority that makes them the 100 % priority, I'm kind of glad to see it because you're not second fiddle anymore. So yeah, West Ham, we're a little bit worried, but my gut feeling is probably just about okay.
43:38Suzy Wrack:We've already touched on Leicester, Rick Passmore, in interim charge at the moment. We don't know yet whether or not they're going to go searching for a permanent manager or whether he will be given the job. But obviously, lack of investment over the summer. Three new players in Marva. No managers, obviously, disrupted things pre-season, although they did get rid of Amandine Mikel with 11 days before the start of the season. Let's focus on the good news. Yuta Rantala back fit, signed a new contract as well. How do you see their season going? I'm very worried for them. I think they're the team that will look around and go, thankfully, we don't have automatic relegation this season because I think they were in real, real trouble with, you know, London City Lionesses coming up and just not being that buffer that they've, well, that many of our teams have had over the last few seasons.
44:27Suzy Wrack:You look at the size of their squads, even just in terms of numbers, before we even get into kind of talent and depth, the size is not enough to compete at a WSL level. And it's not enough that we want to compete. Like you shouldn't be able to get by with a squad of that level, even just in terms of numbers. We want the WSL to be competitive enough that you look at a squad like that and go, that shouldn't happen. Of course, you're going to go down if you've got a squad like that. Obviously, now looking at managerial changes, I understand if they weren't aligned in terms of the club and McHale.
45:00Suzy Wrack:But I think she actually did a pretty good job last season with what she had. You saw some really good signs of it, especially towards the end of the season, some decent results. And even in games where they got battered a few times, but even in some of the bigger games, I think they actually showed really good structure. I think they showed that if they had a bit more talent, they could compete. And I think it is unfair when you look at it in terms of, you know, what she was starting to build and what can you really build on when you don't have that investment. So, yeah, I mean, they've got some players that, like you said, but I just think it's going to be a difficult season for them.
45:36Suzy Wrack:However, luckily, there isn't an automatic relegation. And we don't know what the new manager might bring and how that's going to go. But yeah, I would say out of all teams, they will be the one I'm most worried about in terms of relegation. And that does make you wonder whether or not the teams kind of in and around the middle that were kind of flirting a little bit with relegation have looked at that and thought now's not the season to invest, perhaps. And so they're kind of thinking that they're safe, therefore they don't have to do that. and I wonder whether Spurs are one of those as well.
46:07Suzy Wrack:They've got a new manager in Martin Ho, just one player in with Toko Koga from Feyenoord. You spoke to Martin Ho at a recent media day, Susie, didn't you? What did you make of him and his ambitions for the club? Yeah, it was interesting because he's a really different style of manager to Robert Villaham. I chatted to a couple of players about this. He is a very, very different profile of manager, much more vocal and the type of manager who is playing every pass on the touchline and a bit of a louder character generally whereas Robert Villahan was very sort of calm like understated presence there's you know no like shade on either of those qualities it's just different and sometimes that's just what like it doesn't really matter what the change is sometimes a team just needs some change and I think there was such confusion about why Spurs sort of had such a bad season after such a good one the preceding year and no real answer to it that I think just any change was sort of at the stage that they were at.
47:08Suzy Wrack:I mean, Martin Ho, you know, did a fantastic job with Bran, obviously, you know, getting them to the quarterfinals of the Champions League, comes with pedigree in the WSL and he's, you know, been an assistant at Manchester United and on Merseyside as well. So, like, he is a guy that understands WSL football, but also just seems really, really hungry for it. I think he's really excited about an opportunity to step up into a head coach role in this league. He said he felt the timing was right. He wants them to play aggressive football. He doesn't want them to sit back and soak up pressure and bank back against teams.
47:46Suzy Wrack:He really wants them to play passing, attacking football, counter-attacking football. It's going to be interesting to see what they do. They've not done huge business in this window, but they've got a decent squad there. and if they can avoid injury to Beth England in particular, then I think they might be OK. The vibe around them seems pretty good at the moment. OK, well, that's good to hear. I wonder what the vibe is like at London City Lionesses. They kind of complete the line-up this season, if you like, and they have been busy after they were promoted from what was the championship last season.
48:23Suzy Wrack:Eclectic mix of headline acts is how producer Sophie has explained the amount of signings that they've brought in. You're stroking your chin, Tom. Is that in contemplative? How are these going to fare together? Is it just a bunch of players thrown into the mix? How are they looking, London City Lionesses? Because I'm looking at it on paper and quite excited for them.
48:47Faye Carruthers:It's been an extraordinary summer to see a newly promoted team come in and spend some of the money that they have. And they're not done. We understand that they're also, well, they could get two or three more, but one that is coming through the door, I believe, quite soon. Ruthia Corrales, scorer of the winning goal in the Under-17 World Cup, I think it was a few years ago, for Spain, 19 years of age, from Barcelona. The release clause that the Spanish media are reporting is€500 ,000, which I think would make her the fourth most expensive signing in WSL history. Wow. And that's just one of many signings that they've been making.
49:24Faye Carruthers:We know about Daniel van der Donk. of course you know they've got Nikita Paris uh they've strengthened kind of all over the pitch the challenge is going to be getting them all to gel together quickly could take a little bit of time and we don't know how much that's going to disrupt the sort of the unity they might have had in winning the league last year but I'm fascinated to see how they're going to get on but they're disruptors aren't they um Kaylee's business she wants to get them into the Champions League eventually even win the WSL eventually that could take a while but do I see them going
49:54Suzy Wrack:down no yeah I was down at their um training ground for their media day and it is like it's it's a building site the pitches are perfect that's where the work's been done first but they're literally completely rebuilding it turning the whole place into an like elite professional environment is the aim and if ever there was like visual metaphor for the state of the squad it's probably like looking at that training ground but the the ambition I mean spoke to Saki Kumagai when I was down there and the ambition is not like staying up and like you know kind of being sort of comfortable around the sort of bottom end of the table they want mid table like that is like the sort of goal that they've set themselves for this season and then next season they want to be pushing on for a Champions League place that is like the the sort of short-term like strategy that they've got could they do it potentially yes I mean I've already mentioned earlier that like high turnover of squads is extraordinarily difficult to bring together.
50:52Suzy Wrack:But Jocelyn Pritchard basically had to do that job last season because they brought in a load of new players like at the start of the campaign in WSL2 and then also in January as well. That's when Kumagai came in, for example. So he's already shown that he can bring together a team. The hard part is going to be the difference in the two leagues because obviously, as we know, WSL2, it's not a pretty league necessarily every game is really difficult from from that point of view you're not necessarily going to dominate with the ball at your feet it's very stop start and you don't get sort of fluid play necessarily in the same way that you do so much in the WSL so it's whether they can sort of adapt as a group to the style of play in the WSL and the the the quality of play as well as gelling all these players but it's like I'm just so excited I wrote in my London City Linus' team preview which isn't out yet that what's exciting is there isn't even a precedent sent by any other promoted team that would indicate as to the potential of what they've got because no one's ever had the level of investment of a team coming up that they've had so like it's a complete like wild card entity and you just can't like I just can't predict where they're going to be so don't ask me for a prediction I'm not going to well I am going to ask you for a prediction in a second but I tell you what they do have a really tough start Arsenal away and Manchester United at home to begin with So maybe we shouldn't be judging them right at the beginning of the season when they have got a lot of gelling to do.
52:20Suzy Wrack:But I am going to ask you for your quick fire predictions. Quick fire team, please. Quick fire. And we're going to go round in order. Susie, Tom, Marva. OK. Susie, who's winning the league? Chelsea. Chelsea. Chelsea. Oh, blimey. You're all so boring. I'm going Arsenal. OK. Susie, who's going down? I originally put West Ham in my predictions for written Guardian stuff. I'm switching that to Leicester, given the chaos recently.
52:47Faye Carruthers:Leicester.
52:47Suzy Wrack:Leicester. I'm kind of on board with Leicester. Who's going to prove the best signing, Susie? Let's go Siglottion.
52:55Faye Carruthers:Fridolina Rolfo.
52:56Suzy Wrack:If it counts, Ademarine. Who's going to finish top scorer? What was yours for that? I skipped over it.
53:05Suzy Wrack:I sat on the fence and got some splinters. who's finishing top scorer Susie? Oh, Bunny Shaw
53:13Faye Carruthers:Shakira Martinez
53:14Suzy Wrack:I've been saying Bunny Shaw so I'm going to stick to Bunny Shaw Oh my God, I love that Shakira Martinez shout that's incredible I'm going to sit on the fence again which is really terrible I know, I know, I know I can't, I can't Post-prerogative Yes, exactly, indeed Now, you mentioned the WSL too, Susie that kicks off this weekend as well Sheffield United opening things up against Sunderland at Bramall Lane on Friday night before Southampton host Ipswich Town on Saturday. Sunday, we've got Portsmouth against Durham. Battle of the Big Spenders as Nottingham Forest take on Newcastle United. Charlton host Crystal Palace and then Birmingham City face Bristol City.
53:53Suzy Wrack:And of course, we know how exciting this league is every season and it feels like it gets more exciting every season, but it's more competitive than ever, especially with at least two promotion spots up for grabs. Who do we see as the front runners, Tom?
54:09Faye Carruthers:Oh, Newcastle look really strong. Great summer for them. Real ambition. Birmingham have got a great side. They were very, very close last year. And I like what they're doing at Bristol City. Appointed a really good coach with Charlotte Healy. Very well thought of in the women's game. Signed some really experienced players. Sophie Ingle will come into that midfield and just bring a winning mentality. Great experience. it's it's it's gonna be a really good battle those three i think will be up there palace and forest have done had a good summer as well but it was the summer when i think teams realized you have to go now you've got to go for it there's two automatic places plus a playoff you'll never get a good chance that good a chance again to get up and i think i think a few teams have really gone for it so those would be the four i would think newcastle birmingham bristol city maybe palace and then i think forest will be strong as well and there's a gap there's a big gap to the have-nots, the likes of Jeffers United, Portsmouth, Ipswich to a degree and maybe even Southampton, I think there will be a gap this year.
55:10Faye Carruthers:I don't think it'll be that close. I think we could see some gaps developing between the top and bottom half.
55:14Suzy Wrack:I'm expecting Ipswich not to be challenging at the top given that they've just been promoted, but I'm actually really, really excited to see how they fare. They've been knocking at the door for promotion for such a long time and they've got one of the best academy set-ups in the country. So much young talent there. get huge crowds at their ground as well. I'm really happy they're in this league and I don't think they're just there for a participation award necessarily either and that for me is quite exciting. That's interesting. You would think that club hierarchy would think we've got more visibility this season as well because every game is going to be broadcast on YouTube which is a massive opportunity and really important actually for growing the league, Marva.
55:54Suzy Wrack:Yeah, definitely. I think also we're starting to see a trend of young players going to WSL2 a little bit more which I think will, for a lot of, I don't want to say bigger clubs, but yes, bigger clubs and their fans who are getting more engaged in the kind of growing of the club from the academy levels up, I think you're going to see a lot of those fans also tune in to WSL Tour to see those lone players. I do agree with Tom as well. I think there's going to be that big gap. I am really excited by Crystal Palace, particularly myself. But yeah, I think it's great that we can actually really tune in in a way that we haven't really been able to because it's been such a competitive league, but not everyone's kind of had their eyes on it, even when they love to be a part of all this football.
56:32Suzy Wrack:So I think there's a lot to be excited for next season. Yeah, it's always exciting, this league. And I'm fascinated to see what the figures are going to look like in terms of people's engagement in WSL2. Barclays WSL2, I should say. Right, we mentioned Champions League qualification with Manchester United in action, didn't we? We'll cover that a little bit more when the two legs are played on the 11th and 18th of September. because it has been a fast and furious pod. We have fitted in so much. It's been brilliant and I'm very excited. I know we sounded bleary eyed at the beginning of the pod and we were like, we're not ready for the season to start.
57:09Suzy Wrack:I am now pumped for the season to start after that. So thank you very much. By the way, I also want to let you all know, in fact, I think Susie should because she is the protagonist in this. I'm blaming her for my stress levels this season. We have a fantasy league that actually we're going to keep on top of this season, Susie, haven't we? Yeah, of course we are. I'm going to keep on top of my team, partly because my 12 year old son is so ridiculously obsessed with both his Premier League and his WSL fantasy teams that he talks about every 30 seconds of the day. So it's impossible for me to forget it now.
57:40Suzy Wrack:But yeah, you can join it. It's the Guardian WFW and the code to join is Join WFW. And it's Aerial Fantasy, which was WSL fantasy last season. has had a little bit of a rebrand. But yeah, I'm determined to do better. I'm so determined to do better than I did last season, which was absolutely dire. And I wonder if Tom can have his flying start again.
58:00Faye Carruthers:Had a flying start, but then I dropped off terribly. So yeah, none of us had a great time. We'll do better this year. We must do better.
58:08Suzy Wrack:I don't think I even updated mine after the second week, which is just terrible. So terrible. Anyway, it's been a joy as it always is. Marva, see you soon. See you soon. Bye, Tom.
58:20Faye Carruthers:Great to see you, mate. take care
58:21Suzy Wrack:see you Rack see you soon goodbye keep having your say as well we will read out more messages next week send in your questions via X email us at womensfootballweekly at theguardian.com as well and as ever a reminder to sign up for our bi-weekly women's football newsletter all you need to do is search moving the goalposts sign up the Guardian Women's Football Weekly is produced by Sophie Downey and Holly Fisher music composition was by Laura Iredale our executive producer is Danielle Stephens
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After what seemed like the shortest off-season ever, the WSL and WSL 2 are back. Faye Carruthers, Suzy Wrack and the panel preview what to expect in 2025-26
