COLD CUTS: Jase's Little Spring Roll

31 Jan 2026 · 18 min · 9 chapters

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In short

The Hauraki Big Show discusses (1) Pugs liking an awkward sexual-harassment-training meme, (2) Jase and the team’s Christmas road trip in an electric car from Auckland to Wellington, (3) a listener considering moving back to NZ from London for a banking job, and (4) Jase getting increasingly annoyed by “just” and other minor customer-service phrasing.

Guests

Pugs (Call Me Pugs) is a studio guest; Mania Stewart is mentioned as a breakfast-show host who sent Jase a screenshot. “Anonymous” is the advice emailer.

Key claims

Electric cars are costly on road trips ($30–$35 per charge, three charges, ~30–40 minutes each) and safety features are annoying/expensive (Jase estimates ~$11,200). NZ is not a “shithole”; try a holiday first. Jase’s grumpiness is triggered by “just” and phone scripts.

Notable examples

“They’re making me take sexual harassment training…” meme liked by Pugs; Auckland–Wellington 640 km exceeding 315 km range; curry roll vs “just this” ordering.

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Chapters

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Pugs' Fashion Choices

0:11 to 1:06

Discussion about Pugs trying to replicate Jace's shirt styles.

“And have you ever noticed, you might not notice this, whenever I wear a different shirt, the next day Pugs always tries to copy me with like an emerald sort of shirt that I was wearing yesterday.”

Pugs' Instagram Activity

1:06 to 2:30

Jace reveals a concerning meme Pugs liked on Instagram.

“It's actually not even a laughing matter.”

Electric Car Road Trip

2:30 to 4:08

Jace shares his experience driving an electric car on a road trip.

“That is not something that I would associate myself with.”

The Downsides of Electric Cars

4:08 to 7:45

Jace discusses the challenges and costs associated with electric vehicles.

“Soundgarden there on the Radio Hauraki Big Show this Monday afternoon.”

Preference for Older Cars

7:45 to 9:20

A conversation about returning to simpler, older car models.

“The other thing that I didn't like about it, but this is probably not because it's electric, it's got a million safety features.”

Advice on Moving Back to New Zealand

9:20 to 14:00

Discussion on a listener's dilemma about relocating to New Zealand.

“And there's nothing like good, clean petroleum.”

Transitioning to Small Town Life

14:00 to 14:44

Discussing the challenges and considerations of moving from a big city to a small community.

“And actually, Kesey, just on that front, I mean, people within New Zealand are doing that.”

Jase's Pet Peeves

14:44 to 16:50

Jase shares his frustrations with common social interactions, especially in stores.

“Live there on the radio, Hauraki Big Show this glorious Thursday evening.”

Understanding Food Sizes

16:50 to 18:25

A detailed discussion about the sizing and expectations of different food items, particularly curry rolls.

“Or similarly, you answer the phone and, G'day, hello, how are you?”
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0:00Mike Minogue:The Hauraki Big Show with Jace, Mike and Keyzie. Tune in weekdays at 4 on Radio Hauraki.

0:07Keyzie:News there on the Radio Hauraki Big Show this Friday afternoon. Now, we've got Pugs in the studio and can I just say how I always find it really cute, you know, you guys talk about my shirts and stuff all the time. And have you ever noticed, you might not notice this, whenever I wear a different shirt, the next day Pugs always tries to copy me with like an emerald sort of shirt that I was wearing yesterday. today. It's very cute and sweet and I feel a certain responsibility now with the stuff I wear because I know that Pugs is going to try and replicate it.

0:36Mike Minogue:Hey Pugs. Hey. Hey Pugs man. Hey fellas, how are you? Is that why you're wearing that green shirt? Yeah, well I sort of see the seed planted by Hoardy J and you know I see the way the fabric falls on his body and I think, you know, we can do something about that. You're going to try? Yeah, and so now I'm wearing an emerald green shirt today. Can I just say, not as nice as Hoardy J's really, really nice brand new emerald shirt. The thing is, this one's old as. His one's brand new. Lay out the bag. Look, guys, the reason why I've got pugs in here is because I'm worried about pugs. Is this Shat Chat?

1:07No, this isn't Shat Chat.

1:11Mike Minogue:Aw. It's actually not even a laughing matter. Oh, okay. Jeez. It's not. Do you know Mania Stewart?

1:22Keyzie:Does the breakfast show or something?

1:24Mike Minogue:You know he does the breakfast show On Radio Hodaki He sent me a screenshot Oh no, of what? Of something Pugs had done It was a thing on Instagram And you know how it tells you who's liked stuff? Oh god, what did I like? It was Pugs had liked it And he sends it to me and he says Jeez Pugs I have no idea what this is And then I said WTF Pugs Ah, WTF Pugs And then he said, you should probably talk about this on air. Yeah. So here we are. And I said, that's great news. It's a meme. Uh-oh. Someone tweeted saying, they're making me take sexual harassment training at work. I'm worried that this is going to be racist or something.

2:12No, no, it's not actually. I wasn't worried about it. You know what he's like. It started with sexual harassment and your first thought was that it was racist.

2:18Mike Minogue:Anyway, Chris. No, it's just as bad. Okay, good. It's a meme that says they're making me take sexual harassment training at work even though I already know how to do it. And it's liked by pugs. What the hell is that about? I don't remember liking that. That is not something that I would associate myself with. I don't condone or find that funny. Well, you liked it. Well, why are you laughing? That's a fair indication that you're related. Because I'm deeply uncomfortable, James. That's good stuff. Well, I mean, is it a sarcastic meme? Is it like a joke? Is there anything funny about that? I don't think so.

2:52Keyzie:That's shocking. Jeez, I mean. You shouldn't have brought this up on aircube. Yeah, this is a behind the scenes, off air kind of scenario. It's a shocker.

3:02Mike Minogue:Well, Pugs, do you just want to explain yourself real quick and we'll just let you explain yourself. On my life, I don't recall liking that. Yeah, because it's got your photo next to it. So this is that thing where you go, I have no recollection. Oh, you were hacked. Yes. I'm not saying I was hacked. Oh, well, you hacked. It's a real Bill Clinton type situation.

3:22Keyzie:Because I know back in the day you used to say that you used to like Pornhub videos and comment on them. And I was like, oh, really? Well, yeah, well, that's the thing. I can remember liking Pornhub videos and commenting on them, Jason. Can you just read out what it is that pugs find so funny again?

3:39Mike Minogue:It's a tweet. It's a meme. And it's, they're making me take sexual harassment training at work even though I already know how to do it. Liked by Call Me Pugs. So Pugs has been there. Amen, brother. Whoa. Absolutely not. You guys are sick. We're sick. We're sick. Yeah, you are. Also, in the last break, before we went over to 5 o 'clock, and how you said we might not do it, I really wish we had it. Oh, yeah. The Hauraki Big Show. Weekdays from 4 on Radio Hauraki.

4:12Keyzie:Soundgarden there on the Radio Hauraki Big Show this Monday afternoon. The time is 4.35. Fellas, over the Christmas and New Year's break did a little roadie. Been a while, actually, since I've done a roadie. Generally, we take planes these days. Yes, flash bastards. You know how it is, Keezy, man. But we'd just got in a new car, so we thought we'd hit the road. Well, I didn't want to, but the wife did.

4:36Mike Minogue:You'd rather fly down? Yeah. Because I'm a big fan of a road trip.

4:40Keyzie:Yeah. The thing I've found about flying over driving is it's quicker. Yeah, it's definitely faster. Yeah.

4:46Mike Minogue:Well, it depends where you're going. Because if you were going to work, if you were coming here from your house and you flew in, the airport's miles away. No, that's true. There'd be a bit more driving then, wouldn't there? I hadn't thought about that, Keasy. That's good, man. The trouble with this car and the reason why I didn't really want to do it was because it's an electric car. It's made out of electricity. And the problem with the electric cars there is they've got a limited range. The one we've got has got 315 kilometres range. Is that all? Yep. Wow. Yeah, now you can get ones that are hybrids, and that extends obviously your range right out, but this is purely electric, easy.

5:22That's all you get. Now, of course, going from Auckland to Wellington, which is where I spent Christmas, we did, 640 Ks.

5:30Mike Minogue:Right, so that's not even, you're going to have to charge more than, yeah. Well, the other problem is there's a charging station. So you can say to yourself, well, I have to charge twice maybe, and then I'll have a full, pretty much a full battery once I get down to Wellington. but you have to work out where you're going based on the available charging stations that there are. So the charging station is not going to be right at the end of the limits of your battery, is it? You've got to recharge when you've got a 100K left on it or whatever. Well, if you're going through the desert road, is there a charging thing there?

6:00Look, you wouldn't want to risk it, Kesey. I'll put it to you that way, man. So we ended up having to recharge three times. Three times. Now, there's a few things that I've found here. One is the cost. Now, I assumed that the cost would be bloody cheap. I thought it would be dirt cheap. Like$5 or something? $5. Yeah. $7 maybe at a stretch. Thank you. But charging up, it was about$30,$35 a pop. Right, okay. So we had to do three of those. So she was over a hundy. Yeah. Over a hundy. So not really a super massive saving for old Mogi. The other thing that you've got to take into account, of course, is that every time you stop to charge the battery, it takes about 30 or 40 minutes.

6:49So you're not just driving down. The way I like to drive, Jase, Keezy over there, is I just like to get there. We might stop once for five minutes for somebody to go to the toilet. We might. But other than that, we just get in there. All the way to Wellington. All the way. Hammer down. Absolutely. So an electric car does not suit my temperament for a road trip. It's not for me. at all. Yes. Now, if you're in Auckland and you're charging your car at your home, it costs you about$10 to charge it up. So that's all good, isn't it? That sweet as. So my recommendation is don't get an electric car unless you want to get into a fight with your missus.

7:29Okay, yeah.

7:30Keyzie:Yeah, yeah. But I would recommend it for...

7:33Mike Minogue:Like downtown driving. I would recommend it for home and going to work and all that sort of carry-on. Cheap as chips. It's a great car, blah, blah, blah. but do not go on a roadie unless you've got all the time in the world to get there. Yes. Super, super annoying. The other thing that I didn't like about it, but this is probably not because it's electric, it's got a million safety features. You cross over the centre of the line, the car starts shaking, you're too close to the car in front, it slams on the brakes, all these sorts of things. So I've got a preset on it where I've turned off about 15 of these ridiculous safety features.

8:05You jump in the car, I can push a couple of buttons and it's all turned off. but it occurred to me that I'm probably, well, not probably, I'm paying for all that shit. Yes. I'm paying for all these safety things which I hate and then I'm not using. So how much is that costing me? Keezy, can you tell me how much it's costing me?

8:23Mike Minogue:Just on the maths here,$11 ,200. It's probably about that. So people are putting all this stuff into cars but I would just consider all of that stuff before you buy any car because it never occurred to me at all. Yes. Certainly not the fact that I'd be paying for it and then effing in Jeff and every time I get in the car. You know what I mean? See, I think I mentioned this at the end of last year. I'm really thinking of going back to like an early 90s or late 80s Japanese vehicle. That's why I've got my Tita. The Tita's a mid-2000s heap of shit. But, you know, I want to go back to that golden era of Japanese vehicles where there was no issues.

8:56Mike Minogue:The windows may have been electric, but most likely winder handle things. Yes. The aircon and stuff was just a little switch on the dashboard. Yes. I want to go back to that. Too easy, man. Too easy. And also being able to fix things as well. That's right. I mean, not that I could, but they are fixable by humans as opposed to you've got to plug them into a computer. See what I'm saying, Keezy, man? I hear you, brother.

9:17Keyzie:It's just all too complicated, Mogi. Yeah, man. And there's nothing like good, clean petroleum. Absolutely, man. Pumping out into the air. You squirt it into the air. I do, yeah. Here's White Stripes.

9:35Keyzie:Hauraki Big Show with Jace, Mike and Keezy.

9:38Mike Minogue:Tune in weekdays at four on Radio Hauraki.

9:41Keyzie:Cool jam there on the Radio Hauraki Big Show this Wednesday evening. Let's give out some advice. Me, me, patty, no. No,

9:52Mike Minogue:stop. You're ruining what is a great sting and a great segment by taking the piss.

9:59Keyzie:I'm doing my best to sing it well.

10:01Mike Minogue:Well, you're going me, he, patty, no. And Mogi's just going, ha, ha, ha, ha. Things evolve, Casey. No, I know they evolve, but sometimes they shouldn't. All right, so it's just, if we're going to sing along, let's just do a good job of it. Me, Paddy Nibs. Don't just fart. Jase, you sounded great. Thanks, man. Don't just fart all over my segment, Mogi. Come on, man, we've got to grow up. Here we go. Me, Paddy Nibs, 69.

10:33You're late then. Get in touch. Yeah, you ruined it. Okay.

10:37Mike Minogue:Okay. I'm sorry I was late. That was on me. Yeah. Meetpattynips69 at gmail.com. Real email address. Get in touch if you need advice on anything. And if we read it on the show, you get a$50 re-burger voucher. G'day, fellas. This one's from Anonymous, by the way. I hope you're well. I wanted your take on something. I'm thinking seriously about moving back to New Zealand. I was born in Taupo but left when I was three Wow And despite living in London most of my life New Zealand has always felt like home Which is interesting He listens to the old big show there Yeah but if he's three when he left No he's not three now Yeah it's not a long time in New Zealand Like he wouldn't really think fondly of your time in New Zealand Well he's a backbone Well yeah obviously He's got backbone in his blood I was going to say it's in his blood Keezy You cut his vein you know you cut his skin open and backbone blood comes out Backbone blood Yes Yes.

11:28Mike Minogue:The thing putting me off is that everyone tells me I'd be mad to leave a good banking job in London. Oh, how good is that? Because wages and the cost of living in New Zealand aren't great. It's making me second guess myself. What do you guys think? Is it worth exploring a move or is New Zealand really a complete shithole nowadays? I don't know who's saying New Zealand's a shithole. Who's saying that? New Zealand's literally one of the best places to be in the world right now, I think.

11:52Keyzie:It is a very big conundrum because generally speaking, in comparison to your places like London or Australia, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, the money's a lot better in terms of the work that they do over there.

12:04Mike Minogue:That's true, yes, but. 100%. But I would argue that living in New Zealand, especially in this day and age, Jase, where there's so much going on in the world and you're living in the biggest city, one of the biggest cities in the world, London, I'd be freaking out about that shit. I like being in New Zealand, a little island in the middle of nowhere.

12:20Keyzie:And, you know, he's a banker working in London. He must be a rich bastard. Just save up a shit ton. He must be absolutely loaded. The trick is, yeah, if you've got a bank full of sterling and you're coming home, then you're going to be sweet. He's sweet, yes. But I would make sure that you have that before you come home. Why wouldn't you? It also depends how old he is. Yes. Do you know what I mean? Well, he listens to our show, so I'm thinking mid-30s. Right, or 23.

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12:45Mike Minogue:I'm thinking early 20s. Or maybe 45. We don't know. He could be anything. He could be a teenager. He could be one of those old fellas that we run into at our live shows. He could also just be four. Like he moved when he was three, now he's four and he wants to come back. With a banking job in London. That's right, jeez. Maybe, I don't know the bloody labour laws over there. Yeah, I mean, tricky. I mean, I'd come back for a holiday and see how you feel. An extended holiday. That would be the way, wouldn't it? I think so. Take a month off or two.

13:09Keyzie:Yeah, make it more than a month. Yeah, a month or two months, give it a crack, see what you feel.

13:14Mike Minogue:But the thing is, good luck getting two months off a big banking job in London. Oh, yeah. There's no way they'd give you that. You'd have to quit. Well, just quit and come back to New Zealand. Yeah, you could do that. Save up a shitload, buy a mean house somewhere here in New Zealand to move back to. I don't recommend going back to Topol. Go to another big city. After being in London, you have to go to Auckland, I think. Because going from a big city to a small town, that's a huge change. Well, that's the thing. You'd be the big man on campus. Big man on campus. He'd be old Moneybag. What's his name here?

13:43Anonymous. Old Moneybags Anonymous wandering around town with his pinstripe suit and his wacky accent. And his monocle. Yeah, and his monocle, and talking like a Kiwi and an Englishman at the same time, and just throwing pound notes all over the joint. Swinging his cane. That's right, you could own a small town in New Zealand.

14:00Keyzie:How good would that be? And actually, Kesey, just on that front, I mean, people within New Zealand are doing that. They're leaving their big city jobs and moving to little, you know, communities. It depends on your time of life. Yes, it does. Yes.

14:10Mike Minogue:But also I'm saying, going from London, one of the biggest cities in the world, and most, you know, important cities in the world, to then go to Taupo, which is a lovely spot. But I think you need something in between there, otherwise it's going to be like shock for you. After two days, you're going to be like, oh, I'll get on board. Yeah. Yeah, look, it's a big decision, that's for sure. I'd start with a holiday, mate. And also, New Zealand's great. It's awesome. Depends, though, eh? Oh. Like, if you're some kind of spoiled pommy bastard, this is not the place for you. Yeah, well, obviously. I hope he's not one of them.

14:40Mike Minogue:The Hauraki Big Show with Jace, Mike and Keezy. Tune in weekdays at 4 on Radio Hauraki.

14:46Keyzie:Live there on the radio, Hauraki Big Show this glorious Thursday evening. Fellas, I've got a bone to pick. I've got a bone to pick. You've got a natural rhythm, Jase. That was beautiful. Thanks, man. Now, it's something that I've noticed more and more. I don't know if it's old age. I don't know if it's, you know, that I'm just turning into a really grumpy old bastard. But you're only 39, man. I know, but jeez, I'm bloody near in the 40s, and I'm freaking out about it.

15:18Mike Minogue:Yeah.

15:19Keyzie:But it's when I go into a dairy or a bakery or some such place and I purchase something and I'll say to them, like I did today, I went into my local bakery and I said, just a curry roll, thanks. What is a curry roll? Like a spring roll? It's like a spring roll, but it's curried with rice and mint. How big? It's like a spring roll. It's the same size as a spring roll. Let's not get away from it. Let's not get away from the important factor. Let's say it's a pie for all that matters. Just a steak and cheese pie, thanks. How big is the pie? Is it savoury? And then they put the pie on the little counter and they go, anything else?

15:58Mike Minogue:Yeah.

15:59Keyzie:And it's like, no, I just told you what I wanted. I went into the dairy today and got some milk, put that on the counter, just a milk, thanks. Yeah. Anything else? No, if I wanted anything else, I would tell you I wanted something else. You wouldn't use the word just. Yes. Just this. Just this means only this. Yes. Yes. Exactly.

16:20Mike Minogue:Is this the same shop? No, they're different shops. Right, okay. It also annoys me when you answer the phone. It's a similar thing. Yes. And it's not a big deal, but for some reason it annoys me exponentially more than it should. And that is when you answer the phone and you say, G'day, Mike speaking. And they say, Hi, is that Mike? I know what you mean. I don't like that. I don't like that.

16:46Keyzie:I totally get that, though. This is some old bad shit. It absolutely is. I totally get that, though. Or similarly, you answer the phone and, G'day, hello, how are you? Yeah, good, good. Have you got time to talk? I answered the phone. Yeah. That's how you know I've got time to talk. I don't answer the phone and go, Ah, sorry. Haven't got time to talk.

17:07Mike Minogue:Okay, so I get that. Very, very small, minor inconveniences. And I do, and I acknowledge that. Yeah.

17:13Keyzie:So do I. That's why I say, am I becoming a grumpy old man? For me, it's just a little bit, it's like a little pebble in the works of things. And it's the little pebbles that annoy me. It's a pebble in your shoe. It's a pebble in my shoe.

17:25Mike Minogue:Not your sketches. The reason why I ask how big the curry roll is, because I understand, like a spring roll, I'm picturing like a little tiny one that you get as part of a starter in a Thai entree.

17:37Keyzie:Just your normal, about that big, about two or three inches, quite thick. the Keezy please carry on you know you get it at the takeaways

17:48Mike Minogue:okay so would you say it's like the same thickness and width as like a hot dog on a stick just the hot dog part yes okay because the reason why I didn't understand why you're getting grumpy is because I was picturing a tiny little spring roll and then being like oh is there anything else oh right or just this 50 cents worth of food no okay

18:05Keyzie:I mean I've never seen one of those spring rolls in a bakery Keezy you're talking like the little boutique sort of party The party spring roll. The frozen spring roll. You know, the frozen. They don't have them in bakeries. The Jase's hams, those look massive.

18:19Mike Minogue:The Hauraki Big Show with Jase, Mike and Keezy. Tune in weekdays at four on Radio Hauraki.

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