FULL SHOW: The Trolley Problem

10:56Jase:Hey, fellas, I didn't get to tell you about this earlier. I'm sorry about it. On Friday night, I went to bed as usual, about nine probably. Oh, wow. Woke up. In the middle of the night, it was 1am. Woke up, woken up really, by a fairly severe tightness right in the centre of my chest. Oh, God. Yeah. Now, I often get various pains around my chest and I know enough to know that it's not where the heart is. It's just some other God knows what going wrong with me. Organ. Yeah, something's playing up. But, you know, I ignore it. But the fact that it was right in the centre of my chest and also woke me up, such was a discomfort.

11:38Jase:I thought, oh, God. Yeah, right. But it wasn't a heart attack because I know that, you know, you have to, well, it could have been the early signs of one, but you also get sort of cold sweat. You get pain that goes down the left arm. There's a lot of indicators. So I tried to go back to sleep for about an hour. and then I thought, I know what would be a good idea. I'll put it into chat GPT. Oh, wow, yeah. And I read up on that. I was like, no, I think I'm pretty good here, actually. And then I just went, no, bugger it. I'll just go back to bed. And so as soon as I laid down again, a massive tightness in the chest, a wave of nausea and cold sweat.

12:25Jase:Oh, my God. All of which I just read about. I'm not saying that it gave me the idea, but it was immediately. And I was like, my attitude to these things is, is it worth the risk? You know, that you didn't call an ambulance because you're like, oh, it's probably nothing. But if it is something, I'd rather somebody sort it out. So I called, I got up, I woke up my mum. Oh, Marge Minogue? Yeah, that's her. Because she was there. I knocked on the roof. She freaked out, man. Yeah. Well, how hard did you not? I said, don't have a heart attack. Hey! But she's a nurse. Oh, wow. She has no use at all. So I called an ambulance, and I thought, oh, here we go.

13:09Jase:This is going to be – how long is this going to take? And they were there in about five minutes. Wow. As it turned out, it had been a bit of a quiet night for these guys. Carl was one of the fellas' names there. Good bastards. Anyway, they put all the things on me, checked me all out. Yes. And they decided that I had to go to the hospital. There were some readings that they didn't like on the ECG, so they took me into hospital, and it seemed like I was having a heartbeat, and then there was a sort of a cutout in the circuit, in the electric signal. Yes. So they took me into hospital, bloods, you name it.

13:42Jase:Straight in, man. I was straight in, straight into a bed. I got put into a bed, and I was there for about seven hours. Blood tests, all the things on you, x-ray, all of that carry on. and you'll be pleased to know I didn't die.

13:57Keyzie:That's so good, man. Oh, yeah, that's great, actually.

13:59Jase:Is that called a... Hang on. Mogi didn't die, Jason. That's real good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Arrhythmia? Well, they don't know what it was. Now, everything had been going really well. They did all the blood tests and everything and then I just had to wait for a doctor to come and tell me everything was fine even though I knew everything was fine because the nurses had told me everything was fine. But apparently the doctor has got to be the guy. Yes, sign it off. Or her, she, guy or gal. to tell you that everything's fine. So I had to wait for two and a half, three hours for him to come in for a minute.

14:30Jase:To say, all gee, Mogey. All gee, brother. But it might have just been, he said it might be indigestion. Right. It might be, he said there's a couple of different things that mimic it. But I don't think it was. I don't think it was. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't indigestion, certainly. I've had indigestion before, it wasn't that.

14:47Keyzie:It's really interesting because I said to you, Mogey, this week when we'd heard about that, that on Friday last week, I was actually looking at you thinking to myself, Mogi doesn't actually look that good. You look quite – and I'm being serious here. But you said on the radio, who's looked like a rogue star. Yeah, I was right on that occasion.

15:04Jase:Is that not true when you say that?

15:05Keyzie:Well, on that occasion, it wasn't true because you did look quite sickly and I wasn't as turned on as I usually am when I'm looking at you. Yeah. But interesting that that happened that night.

15:15Jase:Yeah, it was. And, yeah, I'm glad I did it. But also what's great is, what's really great about this is now I've had the checkups, man. I've got the sign-off. Yeah. So I've had the full, I've had the bloods. I've had the lot. I've had the full, I've got the warrant of fitness. I am going over to Europe next week. I'm going to Spain. I'm going to Oasis. I'm doing all this stuff, man. I am on the beers. I'm on the darts. I can do no wrong. Yeah, man. I'm as fit as a fiddle, apparently. Wow. I am so happy for you, man. You're my hero. Oh, cheers, man. And just on that note as well, when the ambulance driver was there, my mother said to him, oh, what time did you, how long have you been working?

16:00Jase:This is like 3 o 'clock in the morning or something. He goes, oh, I start at 6 and I finish at 6, so, you know, only a couple of hours to go now. Yeah, it's been a bit of a night. And she goes, yeah, you look tired.

16:13Jase:Unreal. Cheat. Foo Fighters. The Hauraki Big Show Podcast.

16:20Keyzie:Yes indeed, Billy Idol there on the radio. Hauraki Big Show this Wednesday afternoon. The time is nine minutes to five o 'clock. Let's talk some TV. What's on the telly with Mike Minogue?

16:37Keyzie:Yes.

16:45Why have you got your eyes closed for that? because it was harmonious, man. Because Mogi was trying to get your attention that whole time. Oh, right.

16:52Jase:And you were close, I was singing that. Sorry, man. Oh, good God. What we wanted to say, mate. No, this is fine, mate.

16:58Keyzie:Did you watch anything, man? I did. Oh, yeah? What have you got? I watched a movie called Swan Song. Huh. The basic story being when a loving husband and father is diagnosed with a terminal illness, Oh, God. He's presented with a controversial alternative solution to shield his family from the loss. Replace himself with a carbon copy clone. Now, a pretty standy in this day and age kind of storyline, really. But I actually found myself getting quite involved in it. It's like Black Mirror-ish. Do you know that show Black Mirror? Yes. I've never watched it. Neither have I. And strangely touched by it.

17:43Keyzie:and I thought it was done pretty well.

17:45Jase:Can I ask you, Jase, who are the actors in it?

17:48Keyzie:Yes, you can ask me. The actor is Mahershala Ali.

17:52Jase:Oh, yes, he's very good.

17:53Keyzie:Who was really good. Academy Award winner. Naomi Harris. Glenn Close. Yes. To name a few.

18:01Jase:Fatal Attraction. Yes. Pugs on there's your bunny boiler. Is it Glenn Close? At the very end of it, I was quite emotional.

18:08Keyzie:Right. I was quite emotional. You cried, did you? Just say it. Just admit it. Just say it, man. Just admit it. There's nothing wrong with crying, Jase. Just admit it. I cried, fellas. What a loser. What a loser. Oh, man, that's so embarrassing.

18:23Jase:At a movie. At a movie. About a robot. About clones and robots.

18:28Keyzie:But, yeah, no, I recommend it. It was good. Well, it was not robots.

18:33Jase:What was the clone made out of? Meat. Oh, really? Carbon copy. Yeah, yeah. Like a Dolly the Sheep situation. That's interesting. Hmm. That is interesting. It's a real dilemma, isn't it?

18:45Keyzie:His whole life is transferred over into this guy's brain and stuff. And you think it's going to go a bit doolally.

18:51Jase:What would you do, Jase?

18:53Keyzie:I'd just let my wife be. In what sense? Well, you know, if I had a fatal illness and stuff, I wouldn't try and clone myself so that I could protect her and have another clone of me. No, I think grief would be good. Yeah. I think in her case, she'd be quite enough grief. I think she'd suffered enough. Yeah, well, yeah, that's what I mean, Casey. Just let it be. Sometimes it can be a relief. If you love something, set it free. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes. So I'd probably just take myself to the back paddock there and graze on a few tufts of grass. You know you're not actually a sheep, eh? You're not actually a ram.

19:32A ram. A ram. How many buzzies out of five do you give that movie? Swan song.

19:37Keyzie:3.3 buzzies. And it made you cry. And you only give it a 3.3. I didn't really cry. I was near it. Oh, sure you didn't. See, now he's changed his tune.

19:47Jase:Come on, man.

19:48Keyzie:3.3 buzzies.

19:49Jase:That's great. What's it on? Prime. Prime, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard of it. I watched the travel show last night, right? Yeah. Because I'm about to go on holiday Friday night, okay? And it was... Have you heard of Rick Steves? No. Real classic American travel journalist from 20 years ago making these shows. And it was one on... I think it was Florence. which is one of the places I'm going, so old that the fashion is now back in. Right. And then Lucy goes, my wife goes, oh, wow, that fashion's all come back now. Like, look at his shirt. He's wearing, like, a short-sleeve yellow button-up shirt, baby yellow.

20:24Right. I can see Pugs wearing that shirt is what she said. He did yesterday. Yesterday he was wearing that exact shirt. Wow. And I was like, Pugs wore that shirt yesterday.

20:35Keyzie:Yeah, but Pugs is pretty wacky with his shoes and his tat. That's right, yeah, he's pretty wacky. Yeah, he is.

20:43Jase:But worth a watch, how many buzzies did he give that one? Oh, I cried at the end. No, I didn't. I'm not a baby. I give it like two and a half buzzies out of five.

20:55Keyzie:That's enough. Yeah.

20:57Jase:That's enough buzzies.

20:58Keyzie:Can I just ask, just on the sort of rating, the buzzie rating scale, when we say, say, two and a half buzzies, are we saying watch it or don't?

21:06Jase:To me, anything under three is not a recommendation. three is a recommendation four is it's really good five is unmissable you must watch and six is just play it again no six doesn't count and if you have an issue with that why don't you go cry about it

21:25The Hauraki Big Show with Jase, Mike and Keezy tune in weekdays at four on Radio Hauraki

21:31Keyzie:welcome back you massive backbones hope you're getting through your hump day tickety blue you're listening to The Big Show brought to you by Reeburger Crave-worthy street food freshly made with Reburger.

21:41Jase:Reburger.

21:45Jase:Handcrafted.

21:47Keyzie:Yeah! Handcrafted. Oh, he picked it, eh?

21:52Jase:$50 Reburger voucher for old Mogey. So you just get a voucher? Yeah, I just get a voucher, man. How good's that? Can I be part of this game? Yeah, I want a game. Oh, you wouldn't like it, Chase. Oh, you don't think so? What, the game or the Reburger? Both. I love the Reburger. It's the game. Okay, we'll set up a game for you, right? Yes. What number is Kesey thinking of? Yeah. Four. Let me just get one in my head. It's between one and 20.

22:19Keyzie:17. Damn it, 16. Oh, so close. We'll do that every day, and if you get it right, $50 Reburger voucher. How good.

22:28Jase:Hey, fellas, before we move on, I just want to shout out the St. John's ambulance drivers that saved my life the other night. Backbones. Yeah, absolute backbones. They're as quick as taking verbal abuse from my mother, who is telling them that they look tired. Josh and Alec were their names. Lovely guys. If you get an opportunity to donate to St John's Ambulance, you can start by paying my bill, which will probably turn up in the next couple of days. So just fire it through. Do you have a number for that or anything, Mogi,

22:57Keyzie:so I can fire it off straight away?

22:59Jase:I think if you Google it, Jase. Okay, I'll Google it. St John's. Yeah, donation. Ambulance. Ambulance, yes. And then Josh and Alec. Josh. Josh. Josh and Alec. Yeah. Okay. Cool. What are you writing that down into? Into Siri. Oh, okay. Into Siri. You're writing it down into Siri. You don't even have an Apple phone, Jax. Hey, huge hour coming up though, fellas. Is there? Oh. Sarah. Oh, yeah. And I'm writing from Super Jesus, one of Moggy's favourite bands from Aussie. Yeah, man. They're coming in after 5.30 for an interview. That's exciting.

23:33Keyzie:Also coming up very shortly, a bit of Big Show improv. So if you've got some ideas, text us on 3483, all right? The Hauraki Big Show with Jason Hoyt, Mike Minogue and Keezy. I like how at the end of that song there's rain. Is that saying don't go out in the pouring rain? Yeah. And then it ends with pouring rain. Oh, my God. I never knew that. Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it? Hey, but right now it's time for... Quiet on set. Sound speed. Lights. Camera. Action. Now it's time for the Big Show Improv.

24:06Jase:Yeah, it's bloody exciting, isn't it, fellas? This is something we do every week, whether the audience want to hear it or not. And it's to get Keezy sort of up to a standard as an actor. Jase, you represent him as his agent. Every week we do this improv so that Keezy can upskill because it's his dream to be just like Hoity J and Bogey one day. Something like that. Yeah, yeah. Dream big, Keezy. Dream big, buddy. Aim for the stars. So I guess we've had a few, well, we've had a whole bunch of different ideas come in, most of them involving dildos or bowel movements. Yeah, so Keezy denied at the departure terminal because it was weird bowel movements.

24:42Keezy takes his crap ute for a warrant, gets confronted by the mechanic who finds a large pink dilly in the boot.

24:47Jase:Yeah, that's the kind of stuff we love. Yeah, generally speaking. I would love to do that, but we've actually had another idea today, which is quite a good one. This one, I'll be honest with you, it came from Keezy. and this one is today, Keezy you're going to be a person having a heart attack. Yeah, who's woken up in the middle of the night, you think you're having a heart attack and I've called and you've called the ambulance and the ambulance, St. John's backbones, give them some money are arriving at your door weirdly you just have to sit there having a heart attack while you wait for them to turn up but here we go, Jase you're going to be playing the ambulance the ambulance person.

25:27Jase:Yes. Paramedic, probably. And we're going to call him Carl. Okay, yeah, good. Yeah, like it. And actually, Keezy, you can be... Mogey? Mogey. Yeah, why not? Okay. Okay. And action. Come on. Where are they? Come on. Where are they? Come on, where are they? Oh, hello? Who's there? Hello?

26:00Keyzie:Yeah, g'day, it's St. John here. How are you going? Your name's St. John. Oh, my name's Carl. Yeah, yeah. Actually, I recognise you. You're Peasy, aren't you? No, I'm Mogey. Oh, you're Mogey. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I'm Mogey. Yeah, sorry, man. I'm just... Yeah, sorry, mate. What's going on? I feel I've had a lot of tightness in the chest. I woke up at one and then I was on AI for about two hours. Yeah. And I think I might be having a heart attack. Okay, well, you just sit yourself down and just breathe in just quietly and gently there. Yeah, I'm already sitting down. Yeah, yeah, good. Okay. Those are your shoes, are they?

26:36Yes, those are my shoes. This is my house. And my name is Mogi, not Keezy. Just a reminder.

26:42Keyzie:They're massive. Okay. My name is Mogi, not Keezy. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how long has this been going on for, mate? Like two hours. I woke up. I was quite tight-chested. And then I went on ChatGPT for two hours. And then, yeah, I decided. Hold it there for what you just said. What? Oh, it's just the bloody wife's texting.

27:03Jase:Just then, Moggy's mum comes in. Oh. G'day. What are you guys up to? Oh, hey, sorry. What was your name? Carl. Carl, yeah. Sorry, this is my mum. Yeah. Marge. G'day. I'm Marge. Oh, g'day, Marge.

27:15Keyzie:Lovely to meet you. Yeah, good, thank you. Yeah, very busy. Yeah. Yeah, I've been on since about six this morning. Six this morning? Oh, no, six last night. Six last night. Yeah, yeah. You must be buggered, are you? Yeah. You look buggered. Yeah, well, yeah, I feel pretty tired, yeah.

27:28Jase:If you don't mind me saying, Carl, is it? Yeah, Carl. You look rooted. Mum. Not good. Mum, that is so rude to Carl. I mean, Carl, you do look terrible.

27:38Keyzie:I'm just going to strap this on you here, Mogey, so just to get a bit of a... Hang on, what is this?

27:44Jase:What is this?

27:45Keyzie:Just hold on, man. I strap it down.

27:47Jase:All of a sudden, while Carl is strapping Keezy down, old Mogey gets a massive rager. Sorry, am I Mogey or Keezy? Old Mogey. You're Mogey. You're Mogey, man.

28:02Keyzie:Oh, sorry, Carl. Stay in character, Keezy. This is so confusing. Can we just say scene? Yes, cut. When did Keezy come into this? That was your fault for bringing up the shoes. Well, I just wanted to get the shoes in, and then you switched on me at the last second. What do you mean?

28:19Jase:You were mogi from the start. Yeah, that's a shambles there. And this is the thing with improv. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, Keezy. Yeah. You know? It's not your fault, man. Keezy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

28:29Keyzie:It's not your fault. No, no, it's your fault. Keezy. What? It's not your fault. I know, it's your fault. Because I was going to get him to dilly chat too. Yeah, it's the killers. The Hauraki Big Show. With Jason Hoyt, Mike Minogue and Kesey. Arctic Monkeys there on the radio. Hodaki Big Show this Wednesday afternoon. The time is 5.24. Fellas, my wife had a dream about a member of the Big Show. Oh, yeah. Okay. Now, a couple of years ago, she had a dream about old Mogey. That's right. You guys were in bed together but fully clothed. Yeah. And you were just hanging out in the bed. I'm not sure if I could talk about this.

29:08No, we did. Oh. Yeah, and you guys were just hanging out in bed and then she woke up and that was it. You were literally just chatting. I think I was there as well. Yeah. Real weird dream. Hot. Jase, my wife had a dream about you.

29:22Keyzie:Now, I just want to say if I'm dying in the dream, I don't want to know. Right. Are you particularly worried about that, are you, at the moment?

29:33Jase:Do you think it might be a premonition? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, no, what the dream was, it was you came around to our house for dinner. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah, yeah. Oh, hang on. No, don't. You came around. I was there. You went here, which everyone knows is the universal noise for, oh, yeah.

29:55Keyzie:I'm just curious as to what's for dinner with me. Easy. Well, the weird thing was you insisted that we cook you dinner because you had to come and tell us something.

30:06Jase:Oh. Oh, so, and for some reason, Mogi wasn't there. Pugs wasn't there. Yeah. It was just you, and you insisted on coming around. You insisted that we cooked you dinner. So we cooked you dinner. You came around. By the way, my wife made a delicious meal. Can't remember what it was, but it was perfect. It wasn't too dry. Yeah. In your dreams. Mogi. Yeah. Come on, man. But you sat us down, and you said, listen, guys, the reason I got you to cook me dinner and came around to your house tonight is because I'm leaving the big show. Oh. Yeah.

30:38Keyzie:Okay. She had that dream. She had that dream. And I quote, and then I woke up just as it was getting good. So you didn't even sort of find out why, Keasy. No, you were just like, I'm leaving the big show. When you say, I'm curious about when you say it just started getting good. I mean, we'd finished dessert maybe and had a couple of wines and beersies. Yeah.

31:07Keyzie:Maybe moved into the lounge or something like that on the big couch. You got a T sort of couch, do you?

31:12Jase:We've got an L couch. Oh, an L couch. Yeah, yeah. I'd love to see a T couch. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

31:18Keyzie:And what, we just sort of settled in there? Have you got an F couch? Yeah, we've got an F couch. It's actually a W couch. It's a W couch. But, you know, we moved into the lounge and put on something in the background. Yeah. Grand designs. and that's when she woke up just as it was getting good because it was an episode of Grand Designs and she loves it. So, yeah, that's maybe a premonition. There you go.

31:40Jase:Wow. Something you're not telling us, Jase? Fellas.

31:48What?

31:49Keyzie:That's – Oh, God. Is this breaking news? No. Okay. No, no, I'm just disappointed that the dream ended where it ended. That's all. Right, okay, so you were disappointed that it didn't turn into a sexy dream, but just then you were carrying on like you were going to leave the big show. I'm never leaving the big show, fellas. We're a team, man. We stick together. Yeah. But probably end of the year. The Hauraki Big Show Podcast. Oh, yeah, good times. I'm very excited about our next guest. Sarah McLeod and Stuart Rudd. Ruddy! Ruddy as he's known. That's it. From the band Super Jesus joining us in the studio.

32:34Keyzie:G'day team, how you going? Because I understand you got in at one o 'clock this morning. That's correct. That's correct. Private jet. Yeah, no, a private jet. Yeah, did you get helicoptered to your accommodation? Uncle Ruddy. Yeah. Tell me, when you're on a flight like that, do you have a few beersies, a few wines, a few snacks? Or are you kind of sensible? I do. Roddy's more sensible than I. I'm a bit more sensible these days. Yeah. I think I've used up my beer tickets now, so. Right. Not even the snacks. Like, that's pretty sensible. Yeah, pretty sensible. Mind you going to be fair, Keezy, the snacks are terrible, generally speaking.

33:10Keyzie:Yeah, it wasn't too good. Hang on. Did you fly in New Zealand? Qantas, Jetstar, what was it? Qantas. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Say it all, say it all. I went to the lounge in Qantas. The Qantas lounge. It was terrible, fellas. It was terrible. You can't say that to Australians, man.

33:23Jase:Oh, but I mean, you know. They were heavier for that. Yeah, yeah. I bet Air New Zealand's much nicer. Oh, it's a bloody good one.

33:30Keyzie:Hey, but very exciting to have you here because you're doing a gig tonight, yes? Yeah, we're playing Mothership tonight in Auckland.

33:37Jase:Yes. You've got heaps going on. How many gigs are you playing here, four or five? Four. We're doing tonight in Auckland, tomorrow night, Wellington, and then the next night in Christchurch. And then Queenstown. Queenstown's a good. That's a great choice. What made you choose Queenstown? Our promoter put it together for us. Yeah. Yeah, right. Smart. And Queenstown's so beautiful. It's magnificent. We're going to go down to Dunedin, but last time we were there, it was freezing. Yeah, that sounds right. No, don't do that, man. Just give Dunedin a skip. Queenstown's not much warmer, but at least it's beautiful at the same time.

34:09Jase:Nice lakes and stuff. So you guys are obviously Australian rock legends, and I was thrilled to be able to talk to you guys because I was over in Sydney from 1999 to 2003. Oh, so you're familiar with our work? I am familiar. Sumo had come out in 98, so it was still getting thrashed to death when I turned up in 99. And then you had, was it Jet Age that came out the year after? 2001-ish? 2000. 2000. So you guys were all over the place. And my memory of that time is somewhat hazy. But it was just, it was healthy in days, wasn't it? Incredible bands came out of Australia at that time. So many great gigs.

34:49Jase:The pubs were full of bands instead of pokies. That was when the pokies were really starting to take over. It was amazing. And so my memory of that time is such a special memory of my life. You won't remember it because we didn't know each other. But how were those days? I don't remember what you were doing. You might have known each other. I was a furniture removalist for four years. Oh, you probably would have met me because I'm always moving house. Yeah, you poor thing. Yeah, and I was at the pub about five days a week. But if it was that good for me as a punter, how was it for you guys as doing what you were doing, back-to-back legendary albums.

35:23Yeah. Well, I think in the early days we used to smash our albums a lot faster. It was like every two years we'd put out a new record. But our new record that we've just put out has been 20 years since we did a record. So we've been dragging the chain a little bit, but we made sure that the songs were good and we crafted it. We took our time, gave it some love. But, yeah, we started, when we first started in Australia, we were signed by Aloha Management who also managed She Had. Yeah. And our first tour ever around Australia was called the Heavyweight Kings of Rock Tour and we were the opening band.

36:01It was our first ever tour and it was She Had and a band called Front End Loader. Yeah. And so we learnt so much from watching those guys. Right. We used to be shoe starers. Right. We're like Sonic Youth and Swerve Driver. We just stand there and look at ours Converse shoes and just try and be cool.

36:18Jase:Yeah. and then we saw Shehead and then we're like, oh, look how much they rock. Yeah. That's all we need to do. What year was that in? 96? Six or seven. Yeah, right. Just before Suma. Well, how do you learn to do, to rock on stage? You know what I mean? Like, because that's such an interesting thing you've brought up. All of a sudden, you've got to change from staring at your shoes and looking cool to like getting out there. tennis brackets, mirrors, those sorts of things, man, you know. But you're self-conscious of that sort of stuff, eh? I saw, for DMAs a few years ago down here at a tiny little venue, and every now and then they would show glimpses of going hard and not being self-conscious, and then they quickly remember, oh, no, people are looking at me.

37:01Jase:And so I think now they've sort of got it covered. They're doing pretty well for themselves. Yeah, I think so.

37:06Keyzie:Because, I mean, when you think about it, it's often the case that musicians are kind of weird people. Oh, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Oh, absolutely. You know, creative people in general. Yeah, you're often reclusive, sitting in your little space, playing your tunes, you know what I mean? So to actually get out on stage and perform, it can be quite a hurdle for people. Totally, because we're all outgoing but riddled with anxiety from years of sitting in our bedrooms practising. Yeah, exactly. So it's a tough one. But surely not anymore though, right? No, we still get jumpy before shows.

37:43Jase:Did you have a decent break though? If you haven't released an album for 20 years, I'm assuming you weren't going out gigging every weekend. No, no, we did shows here and there, but I think we put out a live album and a couple of EPs.

37:56Keyzie:Well, I'll tell you what, fellas, why don't we listen to a tune of yours, a number named Gravity there, Mo. Yeah, a tune. The Hauraki Big Show with Jason Hoyt, Mike Minogue and Keezy. Oh, a tune. Speaking of which, we've got Sarah McLeod and Stuart Rudd, otherwise known as Ruddy from Super Jesus in the studio with us.

38:17Jase:I was listening to the new album, and it's great. It's just poppy guitar hooks as per usual. Yes. Super Jesus delivers again. You start that first track, starts with a guitar solo. Who do you think you are?

38:30Keyzie:Aerosmith. Oh, God, does he know? Does he know? Our manager said that to us once. Oh, really? Yeah, that's what I'm like. Oh, my God. And he rang us up because we cancelled it. we'd just driven all night to get to a place and it was locked up and it was a small club and we just went, oh, let's just go home. You know, we'd waited for like two hours for this place to open up. We'd had enough. The manager rang us the next day and said, who do you think you are, Aerosmith? Wow, unbelievable. Holy hell. It's a sore point. We had to put out an apology in the press, actually. Oh, bloody hell.

39:07Jase:And you guys were also saying that you had a bit to do, not just with Sheehad, who became honorary Australian citizens, really, after the General Electric came out. It was just the biggest thing going around that time. But also with Aaron from Weta. Yes. We loved Aaron. Absolutely. What a musician Aaron was. In fact, he joined us on guitar, one of our tours here in New Zealand, for a three-week tour, didn't he? Yeah, and then we asked him to join permanently, and he politely said no. We were like, oh, this is going to be great. And we thought about it long and hard. We're like, yep, he's the one.

39:47Yeah, he's the dude. Well, let's bet on him. It was a big decision for us and he went, nah, bro. It was this pre-Geografica, their debut album from them. It was this pre-that album. It was right before.

40:02Jase:Wow. So he had bigger ideas in mind already. He was like, yeah, I want to do my own thing. I love playing when we go. How quick was the no? Oh, it was pretty quick. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of thought involved. He had no intention of ever joining us.

40:15Keyzie:That's an interesting thing too, you know, with bands over a long period of time, people coming in and people coming up, that's a really tricky thing to manage, isn't it? That chemistry. I mean, is it a vibe thing for you guys? How do you choose the people that you think will fit in with you? Well, I mean, we have had a lot of line-up changes, for better or for worse. I would prefer it if we had just one line-up and stuck with it. You always prefer that. But it's really hard to hold people together and personalities together. And when you're touring, when we toured for like five years nonstop, like six gigs a week, we toured around America.

40:54It was ruthless. It was relentless. And our managers were just trying to kill us. And, you know, only the strong survive. And now me and Ruddy are the last men standing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now we have two new guys in the band who we just love and they're really easy to get along with. Yeah, but how long have they been in the band?

41:13Keyzie:Yeah, but give us some time. That's a good one. Give them another year. You'll probably hate them. Let's be honest. I keep saying to them, you guys, okay, I know it's tough. There's a lot of sitting around. There's not a lot of sleep. It's not as glamorous as you think. How are you going with it? And they're like, no, no, we're good. We love it. And I'm like, okay, so far.

41:32Jase:They'll be gone by the time you get to Queenstown. I was about to say surely you're travelling different But you are doing four straight gigs in New Zealand Surely you guys have toned their back a wee bit Why don't you put gaps between each gig and just, you know Because then we would have to stay here for two weeks It would cost too much That's why we're playing tonight Tonight's a Wednesday When have we ever played on a Wednesday?

41:52Keyzie:My God, yeah Do people go out on Wednesday nights? Yeah, totally We party all the time We'll find out, yeah, good call For those of you in Auckland tonight I feel like going out on a Wednesday we're playing with The After who are a New Zealand band The After who are doing the whole tour with us I think the doors are at like 7.30 or something and the doors on as well I thought they were different that's a go I thought you were opening for you but you know that's good thanks mate

42:18Jase:let me give it my stamp of approval I love you guys you are a legendary band I think the new album's great as well it's been going great guns for you guys over in Australia as well if you haven't heard the Super Jesus before get on them and if you're in Auckland tonight get along and see them live because they're awesome that's right They're performing at the Mothership. If you want tickets, you can go to Event Finder. Tomorrow they'll be down in Wellington at Meow. Tickets from Meow. Friday, Christchurch at a Rolling Stone. Event Finder once again. And then in Queenstown down at Yonder. Event Finder for those tickets as well.

42:48Great stuff. Yeah, good luck for the tour, guys. Yeah, Sarah and Runny, thanks for coming in, team.

42:52Keyzie:All the best for the tour. Thanks very much, man. Beautiful. The Hauraki Big Show podcast. Led Zeppelin there on the radio. Hauraki Big Show this Wednesday afternoon now, as always, heaps coming up after 6 o 'clock. Fjell's. My wife's going overseas for a little bit. Really? Yeah, yeah. She's had a little bomb dropped on her just before she goes, and I want to talk about that. Also, a bit of meat patty nip chat, I believe.

43:18Jase:Yeah, it might be a bit of a – and also, if we can squeeze it in, we might not have time, but I've got an apology to make.

43:24Keyzie:Oh, really?

43:25Jase:Yeah, and it's an official apology, so we'll need the music and everything. So just get ready now. I'll prep it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, how you can win a$5 ,000 trip to the Wild West Coast. Yes. I'll be doing that too, are we? Yes. And a million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. How good. Which is a separate competition. Who's sponsoring that one? I thought you were. Oh. The Hauraki Big Show with Jace, Mike and Keezy. Tune in weekdays at four on Radio Hauraki. Big Show.

43:55Keyzie:Yeah, welcome back, you massive backbones. How's it going? You're listening to The Big Show, brought to you by Ray Burger. Handcrafted burgers, loaded fries and gourmet eats. That'll change the game.

44:06Jase:The one that goes...

44:11Keyzie:Not that one, to be honest. But having said that, Mogi, you've already won one voucher today. That's probably enough. You know, just for tonight.

44:17Jase:Actually, we should have turns, Jase. Yes, thank you. That's the way to do it. Yeah. Okay, well, Jase, do you want to have a go? The one that goes...

44:28Incorrect, man. You got it wrong, which means you have to give me a$50 rebug about that.

44:32Keyzie:Sure, man. I've got a whole stack of the bastards. Oh, totally.

44:38Jase:What have we got coming up? Well, I'll tell you what. One of the things we've got coming up is an apology. That'll be made by me to the members of the big show. Wow, okay. And then I think we've got a little bit of meat patty nips. Oh, yes. Now, we've got some meat patty nips chat, and I think we've got something of an announcement to make around that as well. Yes. So there's a lot of things going on. and I think you want to stay tuned because it's pretty cutting-edge stuff. Can I just say on Meet Paddy Nips, which is, if you don't know what it is, it is an advice segment. So meetpaddynips69 at gmail.com.

45:07It's a real email address. Get in touch if you need advice. You can win a$50 Reburger voucher if it's read out on the radio. We need more advice questions.

45:15Jase:Yeah. So if you want to win Reburger, worth doing. If you love Meet Paddy Nips, and who doesn't, then you're going to have to send in some emails for some advice, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a desire to ask? No.

45:29Keyzie:I'm not a big fan of meat patties and nips. I mean, I like meat patties, just not on nipples. It kind of grossed me out a little bit. Why are you staring directly at me while you say that? I thought you liked my nips. Oh, I don't like them, but I don't think you should be ashamed of them. The Hauraki Big Show with Jason Hoyt, Mike Minogue and Kesey. Bush there on the radio. Hodaki Big Show this Wednesday evening.

45:57Jase:Yeah, man. Hey, guys, I've got an apology to make.

46:06Jase:You all right, man? Yeah, man. Over the last couple of days, I had my daughter in the studio here. Oh, Moggy Minogi. Moggy Minogi was here. Yeah, man. She's been here probably 20, 30 times. Years. 30 times more than years, probably. 20 or 30 times over the course of her life and my time here at Radio Hauraki, the big show. And yesterday she came in here and she had a bit of a mozza, to be fair. She did, actually. It was quite funny. She sits down behind me on a beanbag and she watches TV shows while we're doing our show. She's very good about not interrupting me. She's never interrupted me. Well, she's tapped me on the shoulder a couple of times.

46:47Jase:But generally, if I'm talking into the microphone, she knows not to talk to me. Yesterday she spilt three glasses of water. No matter how far away I put the glass from her, she still found a way to do it. And then as we got into a break discussing her. It was one and a half mogies. It was one and a half mogies talking about a whole bunch of birthday parties I'd had to attend with her over the, sorry, I got to attend with her. Had the pleasure of attending with her over the weekend. She tapped me on the shoulder and she did the T sign, which means toilet. Oh, that's clever. And she had a couple of bulges on her.

47:22Jase:Her eyes were, now is the time. And I said, you know, I just said, you know, I put my hand up there and there. I may have mentioned it on air too. And then sort of thought I'd be able to get my yarn out and we'd be able to take her out. Well, then she tapped me on the shoulder again. And the look on her face said, no, it needs to be now. Yeah. Or somebody's going to have to pay the price. And I'm sorry, I just, I don't think it's happened before. I panicked. and I just left the rooms. And what I should have done is I've been awake since 3.30 this morning, just getting on with my day. And when I was lying there, I was like, well, what I should have done was gone through the story of at least just saying, James, I had a whole bunch of birthday parties to go to with my daughter.

48:09Jase:Hey, you must have experienced that given that you've got four daughters. Sure. And then left. Yeah. Then you could have had a big yawn. Instead, I just went, ah, she needs to go to the toilet, fellas. I've got to go. So I've never been put under that pressure and shat the bed. I absolutely shat the bed, and I apologise for that. No, I don't. I'm sorry. It's all right, Moggy. I think what you realised this morning was correct. You could have set it up for Hoity J. Yes. Because what he did was he panicked and started talking about doing a Pugsun, which is when you get up in the morning and then you run straight away to the toilet and do poos.

48:44And so his knee-jerk reaction was to talk about doing a Pugsun. and can I I haven't heard the break it was so good it was me Jason Pugs doing one and a half can I just

49:00Keyzie:say Mogey that also in little Mogey Minogi's defence I mean you think about how many glasses of water have I tipped over in the studio about 50 and also the amount of times you tap me on the shoulder I need to go toilet now And I'm like, if you wait till the song, I'll take you then. So I think it's fine.

49:23Jase:It's all good, Mogi. Yeah, cheers, fellas. Yeah, we're all good with that, mate. I certainly don't blame her. No. No. Not publicly. The Hauraki Big Show Podcast.

49:33Keyzie:Audio slave there on the radio Hauraki Big Show. Monty, it's born of the wild. Sorry, man. What were you saying? That was an accident. Come on, Jase. Don't clam up now, mate.

49:46Jase:Hey, hey, hey, hey. You know what will get him out, man, if you play one of those stings that has his name in it? Oh, okay. What about this one? Hoity Jays. Is that better? Jays, come on, man. Have we got any others for him? Only this one. Jays.

50:04Keyzie:All right, that's for his cat. What about the Hoity J number one one? Will that cheer you up? Hoity J, best in the world, A number one. You feel better now? No, sorry. You know yesterday, I think it was yesterday, where midway through Moggy talking, that random Monteith sting just fired off because the computer froze. I clicked it, and then three seconds later it fired off. Now it's kind of a running joke that that Monteith sting is going to just come out of nowhere and interrupt you. What is that Monteith sting about anyway, Keezy? Born of the Wild, but I just want to check, are you okay with that?

50:37Hey, so if we're going to start doing this break, I need you to be on board. Is that all, G?

50:42Jase:Why don't we have a chat about it tomorrow? Hey, Kesey, what's that Montese thing about? It's a good question there, Maggie. Thanks, man. Basically, we've – Jase, come on, man. It's Bear and Pie July, and this year we're excited to be partnered with Montese and the West Coast Pie Company. Yeah. Giving away the ultimate West Coast weekend valued at five grand. Five grand's a lot of money, man. It's a lot of money. For example, what would you buy with five grand, Jase? That's a good question, man. Jase, what would you buy, man? Come on, Jase, man. Just come on.

51:10Keyzie:I'd probably get one of those. Monty's Born of the Wild.

51:19Keyzie:One of those, you know, sort of handcrafted hunting knives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd probably get one of those and then I'd do it. As I say, I think I'd sort of vacillate between heli hunting and heli fishing. What does vacillate mean? Would you vacillate or oscillate? Oscillate is a better word for it. Do you mean switch between? Yeah, well, in my head I'm switching between the two of them. I think I'd go heli fishing. Yeah, because I don't like hunting. I don't like fishing either. I've discussed this, but I'd find a reason to go up in the helicopter. You mentioned the hand-forged knife. You can actually craft your own knife, which I believe you are involved with the smelting process and beating it into a knife.

52:00Yes. Like, that's fun.

52:01Jase:Well, the other thing you could do with a helicopter, of course, is you could go and look for marijuana crops. That's true. And then you go down and you pick all the marijuana and then you take that home. How good is that? No, no, no. The telecocks. No, it's finders keepers. It's looters' rights, Keezy. Oh, right, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Looters' rights apply. So that's a great way to spend your time. Yeah, yeah, true. How will you do it, New Zealand? Just look out for the booby traps, Keezy, if you win. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of booby traps. If you win, man, they've always got the booby traps on the old gunger plantations.

52:27Keyzie:Yeah, I was going to say, good gunger in the West, mate. What the hell's a buzzy trap? Is that like a bomb or something? Like a trip line?

52:34Jase:A booby trap. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. A booby trap is, what would you say there, Jase? It's a homemade system for maiming thieves and ne 'er-do-wells. Right, okay. Why is it named after buzies?

52:50Keyzie:That's a good question. Yeah. That's a good question. We should look into it. I think it's actually named after the booby bird. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, right. It's a booby trap. What the hell's a booby bird? Is that a real thing? Yeah, man. Google it. Okay, well, go home.

53:02Jase:Google boobies. Booby bird. Hey, anyway, back to the whole Montees West Coast Pie Company situation. Oh, yeah. If you'd like to win that amazing West Coast adventure for you and a mate, five grand, you'll wrap the day up at the Montees Brewery and rip into some tasty pies from the West Coast Pie Company. Get your phone out, text the word WILD right now, 3483. Get yourself in the drawer, eh, fellas? Yeah, man. Sorry, Jason. Hey, Keezy.

53:23Keyzie:What's up, man? Can you take me to the toilet, man? Fine. The Hauraki Big Show with Jason Hoyt, Mike Minogue and Keezy.

53:41Keyzie:There you go, you mad bastards. Big show. Done and dusted. Wednesday. Hey, in the podcast outro, which is bonus material, we do outside of the radio show. It's kind of cool, isn't it, fellas? Because we always play a little clip from it.

53:54Jase:Yeah.

53:54Keyzie:And I'm always like, oh, what's it going to be today? It's like a little mysterious treat. This one's called F and Jeff. Yeah, it'll be about me then, I guess. All that ended up happening was I went out of Sky City and just f***ing smashed my vape hard. It was effing and jeffing. And then my vape wouldn't work and I was like, oh, for f***ing sake. And then someone came up to you and you were like, what? Yeah, I had a rather startling confrontation today, which I wasn't expecting, which sort of put me on the back foot. Yeah, but you recovered. I recovered. I recovered, fellas. Yeah. Because I'm a backbone.

54:29Keyzie:I just got on with it. Yeah. Hey, now listen, do go and check out our Instagram account because old Pugsan works his arse off day after day after day putting that all together. Also, the podcast, go and check those out because Pugsan works his arse off day after day after day putting those together for you. So make an effort, would you? Yeah. Totally. Do you want us to say anything? It's up to you. Have you got anything good to add, Geezy? I'm making burgers tonight for dinner with my wife. I'm making her burgers because she's got an eyebrow appointment, getting her Euro eyebrows on for Europe.

55:05Right. And so she'll be home about eight. Yeah, man. And I'll have some burgers ready to go. Meat patty burgers.

55:11Jase:Are you going to get a wax or anything? What are you going to do for your prep for Europe? No, I was talking to my wife about it. She's like, don't get a wax. You don't need a wax. I'll give myself a bit of a, you know, trim up. Yeah, man. Just around a bit of a, you know, general. Get myself looking ship shape. Ready for Speedos. It's going to be hot, man.

55:28Keyzie:Great stuff, man. I'm glad you added that, Keezy. What are you having for dinner, man? What am I having for dinner? Oh, we're having a butterfly chicken. A butterfly chicken? Yes. It's split down the middle. Is that right? Yes, that's correct. Or is it a butterfly and a chicken? Yeah. There's butterflies in the chicken. That sounds delicious. It's really good, man. They're very delicate flavour, the old butterfly. Yes. Hey, no, but do go and check out all that stuff I mentioned. Bastard to fill it. Oh, absolutely. But until tomorrow, see you later.