In short
Two segments: (1) banh mì and street-food talk, including a Vietnam travel anecdote; (2) a comedy-industry discussion about ghostwriting/plagiarism and whether younger NZ comedians write their own sets.
Guests/backgrounds
The hosts are Jase and Keezy (plus “Hoardy Joe” mentioned as a persona). They trade personal food experiences and comedy opinions; no external guests appear.
Key claims
Keezy and Jase debate pork vs chicken banh mì and suggest some stalls are “hidden gems” despite uninviting facades. They claim many comedians (especially younger ones) may not write their own sets, with jokes written by other comedians; they also mention rampant plagiarism stories.
Notable examples
Vietnam street stalls with “mongrel dogs,” piles of rubbish, and Keezy ordering intestine; references to Alan/TV NZ comedy writing; ghostwriting in music (Eminem/Dr. Dre/Snoop Dogg/Jay-Z) and late-night monologue writers.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBarn Mì Banter
0:11 to 2:58
A lively discussion about the best types of Barn Mì and personal experiences.
“4 to 7 every weekday on Radio Hood Aircast.”
Vietnam Street Food Stories
2:58 to 4:40
Sharing experiences of eating street food in Vietnam, including humorous anecdotes.
“and instead of being asleep, he's jacking.”
Comedy Writing and Plagiarism
4:40 to 9:01
Discussion on how comedians write material and the ethics of joke theft.
“The Hauraki Big Show, weekdays from four on Radio Hauraki.”
Future Stand-Up Specials
9:01 to 11:09
Ideas and humor surrounding stand-up comedy specials and potential titles.
“And you can just, and the same goes for these stand-up specials, where you just go in and you write the jokes for that person in their voice.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Keyzie:For all you mad bastards following the Big Show podcast, get up even closer on Instagram, YouTube and TikTok or Raw Dogget. 4 to 7 every weekday on Radio Hood Aircast. I could go a Raw Dog, man.
0:16Mike Minogue:Fucking hell. I had a Barn Me over the road there. Barn Me? Best Barn Me I've ever had. Barn Me. Right. Fuck it was good. You've had your fierce year as well, Keezy. Well, I've had two from there and they've been okay. Today's one Fucking rule Yeah Did you go over and give them a Kjeldra? Nah I went over and gave them the old Kjeldra Ah Dense Oh kāpāi That's what they said
0:39Keyzie:Hey What kind of bāni was it? Pork Lemongrass Yeah okay Oh yeah not very nice Now you see I go chicken But each to their own Keezy Well pork is a very Vietnamese dish Yes It is Cover and rub your dear little chicken Yeah Why do the Vietnamese love pork so much? It's more meat on a pig Yeah I guess so It's more meat on a pig and they do a bit more work around the farm. It's part of the ecosystem more of pig. You know what I'm saying? A lot more work in a chicken. Chickens do fuck all.
1:08Mike Minogue:Chickens do fuck all, but they lay eggs. No, no, but not enough. Not enough? No, not enough eggs. So if you could have a chicken that laid like a six-pack. A six-pack? Yeah, now we're talking. Or a chicken that's got a six-pack. And people come from far and wide to see that. A ripped chicken. Yeah, just buff as. A ripping. A ripping. A ripping ass.
1:29Keyzie:Well, that's exciting news, Keezy. That's great stuff, mate. I might go and give them a try out again one day. Cool, and then you'll come back.
1:35Mike Minogue:I went and tried it, Keezy. It was terrible. Well, look, I have - I know what's going to happen. You give it a six out of ten.
1:41Keyzie:I have had a barn me from there before, and it was genuinely quite dry.
1:45Mike Minogue:Yeah, same. So I used to go over there at like three-ish. I went there and won. So it was like the lunchtime - Chicken didn't have a chance to dry out. Yeah. The pork in your case. The pork, yeah. and it was beautiful. Yeah, good stuff. So good. So good. So I was pumping over there, eh? I've been in there a couple of times and the person's been asleep in one of the booths. Yes.
2:07Keyzie:And it does my head in a little bit because they should be pumping. But their whole front facade is just terrible. It's not inviting, is it? You just walk past it. You don't even kind of know it's there. Yeah. Which makes it a bit of a hidden gem. They do a cheap coffee. It's like, come on, guys, just brighten it up a bit. Guys, come on. You should be making a fortune. Go over there with a bit of advice, Hoardy Joe. I should. The white man. Walk in, the white saviour. White saviour. We're talking Dangerous Mind starring Michelle Pfeiffer. We're talking Morgan. Oh, no, he's African-American. The blind side.
2:43The blind side with Sandra Bullock. I might invest in it.
2:47Mike Minogue:What you do is you walk in and you say, hey. You should start doing your stick mags out of there. Yeah, totally. And sandwiches is what you need to do. Ditch all this Vietnamese stuff. They just keep doing what they're doing, but Hoody Joe's up the back in the booth, and instead of being asleep, he's jacking. Yeah, jacking off. But the thing is, what I have noticed
3:05Keyzie:is the amount of barn mì, because there's one just underneath as well that does barn mì. There's barn mì everywhere at the moment.
3:12Mike Minogue:But that's part of a chain. Yes. Or not a chain. There's a few of them, and I feel like those barn mìs are not made of as much love as that one. I couldn't tell you the last time I had a barn mì.
3:21Keyzie:You know what I like about that place across the road? I could, but I'd have to kill you. It's quite filthy. Yeah, it's a shitter. Down here. No, across there where you went today, it's kind of dirty.
3:31Mike Minogue:Yeah, and when you went to Vietnam. It's kind of dirty. Vietnam's kind of dirty. Yep. So you go to a street food stall in Vietnam, it's dirty. Totally, man. And it's delicious.
3:41Keyzie:The first meal we had in Vietnam, I'm amazed we didn't die.
3:45Mike Minogue:Yeah, but that's all racism.
3:47Keyzie:It was horrendous. Yeah. And I was taking the advice of Keezy, and it was like, just go to the shittiest bloody stuff. The locals. The local sort of stall there. And we went in there, and there were bloody mongrel dogs everywhere. There were literally piles of rubbish. He didn't say take your life into your hands, though, did he?
4:07Mike Minogue:I said go to a place that all the locals are at. It's packed with locals. Not packed with local wildlife. That place was great, though, Jo, because it was empty. Yeah, it was just dogs.
4:16Keyzie:And I actually ended up getting intestine. And I was like, okay, that's weird. You ordered that, though. Well, I did. I didn't quite know what I was ordering.
4:25Mike Minogue:Why, it's not my fault. You were sitting with dogs eating intestine.
4:27Keyzie:Does the intestine still have shit in it? Not that I noticed.
4:31Mike Minogue:Because otherwise, if I didn't tell you that, you would have just gone to the Hard Rock Cafe every night for dinner.
4:36Keyzie:But then the next day, we did notice where all the locals were going, and that's where we went.
4:40Mike Minogue:Was it good? It was great. See, that's what I meant. There you go, man.
4:42Keyzie:It was filthy.
4:44Mike Minogue:The Hauraki Big Show, weekdays from four on Radio Hauraki. The Hauraki Big Show podcast. Can I discuss something with you involving comedy? I was just having an interesting conversation with someone earlier. Oh, yeah. And they were saying that in your generation, Jase, I don't think it happened, and that sort of the Die Henwood generation doesn't happen. but apparently a lot of the younger comedians don't write their own sets and they are written by other comedians. What do you mean? In New Zealand? Yeah.
5:23Keyzie:Well, and you will find a lot of the shows on TV are the same thing but – 100%, yes. Yeah. Did you know that Alan wasn't written by Alan?
5:32Mike Minogue:No, I'm talking about New Zealand though. I know. You know, like so Game of Two Halves, we'd go in there and film it in like 40 minutes. I might have to redo a couple of bits where we've mucked up the way we said words or whatever and then it's done or there's some other comedy shows in New Zealand that take like three hours to film Are you talking about comedy shows? Shows, but stand up as well that's how this conversation got started
5:50Keyzie:I've never heard of that I have and actually not in my time No, I've heard that there are comedians out there that are from a comedian friend who don't actually write their own stuff Yes, they present it all They just perform it Are we talking about a well known because obviously young ones couldn't pay for it. No. So it would have to be well-known comedians.
6:12Mike Minogue:Yeah, so I think the agreement is they get a cut of the – Yeah, you write jokes. Yeah, that's – so that's – I mean, if they're big enough, and there's a couple that I can think of that would be. I was just blown away by it because I was like – we were talking about how if I was to go on the big show and say any kind of joke that I stole off of Instagram, off of Reel or TikTok or heard someone else saying and then repurposing it, I would feel terrible. and then I was like that's why I'd feel terrible doing a comedy panel show where they quite often write you jokes to say well they always write you jokes they always write you jokes and I was like I would feel so weird about doing all that and then that turned into a big conversation about how well actually a lot of comedians not all of them I don't know like you know they might have a general idea but then another comedian will flesh it out for them and write it all for them but they're better at presenting you know what I mean they're more charismatic I hear what you're saying but yeah there'd have to be a lot of money in it and there's not a lot of money in New Zealand comedy I mean I just I'd need more specifics around that I'm trying not to be specific because we're on a podcast oh okay no no I'm just saying yeah I don't want you to be specific on air yet but it's hard for me to I do I do you believe?
7:17Mike Minogue:yeah no
7:19Keyzie:I've genuinely heard that from a colleague who is pretty big in the comedy scene but he wasn't you know there's also you hear stories of rampant plagiarism as well
7:31Mike Minogue:well you've got a great story about that
7:32Keyzie:yes I do which was a shocker but
7:35Mike Minogue:because someone was performing a joke that you had told and you were in the audience watching them. Yes. And then you saw them afterwards and they were very surprised to see you.
7:42Keyzie:And it was a very elongated joke too.
7:45Mike Minogue:And it was a well-known New Zealand comedian.
7:47Keyzie:And it was a well-known and I was like, what the fuck?
7:50Mike Minogue:Yeah, man.
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7:51Keyzie:And then I saw him after the gig and he went pale.
7:53Mike Minogue:So I wonder if like the biggest comedians in the world, it's hard for me to think a Dave Chappelle or like any of them would never. Absolutely they have writers. They would. It's not a matter of opinion, absolutely. Yeah, right. Absolutely, because you have these guys that come out, they do a special, they've been comedians for 10 or 15 years, they finally get a special, it's their most honed work, and now they're doing one every single year. All of a sudden, yeah, you're right. All of a sudden they've got enough quality. Some of them don't because they come out and they'll be shit, but absolutely they use writers.
8:24And even more interesting, I think, than that, and more amazing than that is rappers that do it. so you had Eminem writing on 2001.
8:38Mike Minogue:Oh, The Chronic. No, Dr. Dre. Yeah, like Dre's and Snoop Dogg's parts and Jay-Z was doing the same thing. They were ghostwriting and writing all of those songs as if they were them and handing them over and the demos would have Jay-Z or Eminem rapping as those guys and then those guys just come in there and did it. That to me is a fucking disgrace. But that's obviously in a lot of music though. there's writers no but I was shocked that that was happening especially when they were in their prime so you're saying that that shocked me Eminem was actually the one walking down the street smoking indo sipping on gin and juice sipping on gin and juice that's right fucking hell it's unbelievable but yeah give that a Google there's some huge songs that are like that yeah but that's the thing but also you'll have people that are writers like monologues on late night and all that sort of stuff yes but when you go in and you'll write for you know Ricky Gervais is presenting Golden Globes or whatever it might be.
9:31And you can just, and the same goes for these stand-up specials, where you just go in and you write the jokes for that person in their voice. So it's not like you're wasting jokes that you would otherwise use yourself. Yeah, you're doing it for them. Because the voice is so completely different that you could, it would never work for you.
9:47Mike Minogue:So it would be quite easy, not easy, but it would be easier to write for someone else. If you know their tone, you know what they're like. Yeah, they're like a character, right? It's like writing for fucking... Horty J. Wellington Paranormal. Yeah. But I just thought it was interesting because the scope of the comedians involved, I was just like, oh, because I couldn't, I just cannot understand saying something that isn't my work. I don't know. I was very weirded out by it. I think it would be, yeah, I mean, yeah. It's hard to know. But if they were big enough, I could see it happening. Yeah. Because you've got to keep the money coming in.
10:17If you're out of jokes, fuck it, I'll just pay someone.
10:19Mike Minogue:And also, if you're another comedian that does another style and you can make some money by helping this person ride. That's right. I get it. I was just like I just was Yes Surprising that it happened In New Zealand Yeah There's anybody That's making any money Yeah yeah totally I was just like Oh fucking hell Yeah jeez And I was you know Because I was going to be A comedian there for a bit Fellas Imagine that You could have had writers And everything Yeah yeah We could write you gags Yeah you could write me gags Yeah I'd fucking hate to know You'd be gagging Oh that's actually a good name For your first stand up special Gagging Oh Keasy Gagging Thanks fellas I like it I can see the poster for it actually Gagging What about gagging hard?
10:56That might be That's the second one you do Still gagging And then the third one Still gagging And then gagging like a motherfucker
11:03Mike Minogue:And then the last one Finally wrapped my lips around it Something like that Finally nailed it Fucking hard Is that vague enough? Yeah I think so We'll work on it Yeah we'll workshop it Hey listen to the big show 407 Weekdays Radio Haraki man Good stuff
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