Lindsey Graham’s Unexpected Death, and How Marco Rubio Is Running Venezuela

13 Jul 2026 · 12 min · 6 chapters

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This episode of “The Headlines” covers: Senator Lindsey Graham’s unexpected death at 71 from an aortic dissection after returning from a Ukraine trip; his legacy as a vocal advocate for U.S. support of Ukraine and Israel, and his role as a key Republican ally to Trump. It also discusses age and health transparency in Congress, referencing Mitch McConnell’s recent hospitalization. Other headlines: escalating U.S.-Iran strikes tied to a ceasefire with “dangerous vague language”; a landmark housing bill becoming law; and an FBI-led leak investigation targeting New York Times reporting. It claims Marco Rubio effectively runs Venezuela’s finances, resources, sanctions, and appointments as “Viceroy” after U.S. forces captured Maduro.

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Carl Hulse (NYT chief Washington correspondent). Notable example: Rubio’s WhatsApp contact with acting president Delcy Rodriguez. Also mentioned: Sam Neill’s death at 78.

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Lindsey Graham's Unexpected Death

0:00 to 0:28

Discussion on Senator Lindsey Graham's shocking death and its implications.

“This podcast is supported by BetterHelp.”

Lindsey Graham's Unexpected Death

0:40 to 2:31

Discussion on Senator Lindsey Graham's shocking death and its implications.

“I got a message about one o 'clock in the morning from one of the people at his office that he had passed away.”

Reflections on Graham's Legacy

2:31 to 3:46

Exploration of Lindsey Graham's role in Congress and his influence.

“And he was just somebody who tried to get things done.”

Trump Administration Updates

3:46 to 6:00

Updates on key incidents involving the Trump administration and its policies.

“That discussion's been focused recently on another high-profile senator, 84-year-old Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who was hospitalized for weeks recently while his staff shared very little information.”

Marco Rubio's Control Over Venezuela

6:00 to 9:02

Analysis of Marco Rubio's influence in Venezuela and the U.S. involvement.

“The White House ordered FBI Director Kash Patel to personally oversee a leak investigation related to reporting from The New York Times, according to people familiar with the situation.”

Sam Neill's Legacy

9:02 to 11:21

Tribute to actor Sam Neill and his career highlights.

“There had been growing calls for new elections and political change in Venezuela, even before the government's slow response to the recent deadly earthquakes set off a new wave of public anger.”
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0:00This podcast is supported by BetterHelp. Have you ever had so many tabs open that your computer starts slowing down? Life can feel like that too. BetterHelp's 2026 State of Stigma report found that 74 % of Americans believe society still discourages asking for help. Therapy can help you sort through what's taking up space and quietly affecting you. With BetterHelp, connect with a licensed therapist online and switch anytime. Maybe it's time to close a few tabs. Visit BetterHelp.com slash New York Times to get started. From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today is Monday, July 13th.

0:39Here's what we're covering.

0:45I got a message about one o 'clock in the morning from one of the people at his office that he had passed away. I said, you guys, I just can't believe it. Senator Lindsey Graham's unexpected death at age 71 has sent shockwaves through Washington and beyond. President Trump told Meet the Press yesterday that he'd just spoken to the South Carolina lawmaker on Saturday night, hours before his death. He just landed from Ukraine. I said, that's a long trip to make. He sounded a little tired. Graham had returned to D.C. earlier that day from a trip to Ukraine. How are you? Good. Older. Older. Older.

1:24No wiser. As one of the most vocal advocates for U.S. support of Ukraine, Graham had been on one of his many trips to Kiev, meeting with President Volodymyr Zelensky. And the sooner we can have a dialogue about peace, the quicker this war is over. After Graham returned to D.C., emergency responders were called to the senator's address. A preliminary report from the medical examiner's office indicates the cause of death was an aortic dissection, a tear in the main artery that carries blood from the heart. What I would say about Lindsey Graham is he wanted to be in every Senate legislative fight.

2:01Carl Hulse is the Times' chief Washington correspondent. He was a very active senator on a lot of issues, immigration, foreign policy, overall spending. I mean, this was a guy who knew how to work the Senate and was very highly respected by his colleagues in both sides, even though he tended to drive them crazy on some things. You know, he could be very mercurial, but really popular among his colleagues. And he was just somebody who tried to get things done. Carl says Graham's final trip to Kiev speaks to his longtime push for American intervention around the world. Even as many in the Republican Party turned increasingly isolationist in recent years, Graham stuck to that, continuing to push for aid to Ukraine and support for Israel.

2:52He also backed Trump's war in Iran. Like many prominent Republicans, Graham was initially a big critic of Trump's before becoming a close ally. He helped push Trump's agenda on everything from judicial appointments to tax cuts. His death has left many in Congress and his home state of South Carolina in mourning. And Trump has said flags across the country will be flown at half staff for the next week. For Graham's seat, he was up for election in November, and there will now be a special Republican primary election next month to determine who will compete in the midterms. Meanwhile, Graham's death at 71 has highlighted the age issue in Congress.

3:33The average age in the Senate is now more than 65 years old, and there have been growing questions about how long lawmakers can serve and what information they owe their constituents about their health and ability to do so. That discussion's been focused recently on another high-profile senator, 84-year-old Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who was hospitalized for weeks recently while his staff shared very little information. McConnell broke his silence yesterday, saying it was a fall that put him in the hospital and that he'd also battled pneumonia. He said he's now recovering at a rehab center, and he did not provide an estimate of when he would return to work.

4:20Now, three updates on the Trump administration. First, in the Middle East. The Pentagon says it launched waves of new strikes against military targets in Iran this weekend. The attacks are now part of a pattern. Iran tries to hit a tanker or cargo ship passing through the Strait of Hormuz, the U.S. strikes Iran in response, and then Iran retaliates with attacks against U.S. military bases in the Gulf. Analysts and former American officials tell The Times the escalating back and forth is a predictable result of the ceasefire that President Trump signed with Iran last month. They said the memorandum is filled with dangerous vague language, and that it effectively gave Iran the upper hand when it comes to the strait.

5:06For example, the agreement doesn't include an ironclad guarantee that ships can pass safely through the waterway. And it acknowledges Iran's power in the strait, something Iranian negotiators insisted on. A second update now from Washington, where the landmark housing bill has become law. The legislation is designed to boost the country's supply of homes and eventually bring down housing costs. It's the most significant effort of its kind in a generation, and it became law through an unusual process. It was passed by large bipartisan majorities in both the House and the Senate, but Trump refused to sign it, demanding instead that Congress pass a separate voting restriction bill.

5:51Since Trump didn't veto the legislation, though, it kicked in automatically 10 days after it was sent to his desk. And last update on the administration. The White House ordered FBI Director Kash Patel to personally oversee a leak investigation related to reporting from The New York Times, according to people familiar with the situation. Officials say that President Trump had been enraged by recent Times articles that cited anonymous sources describing how the new Qatari-donated Air Force One lacks some defensive systems. On Friday, Patel called off a planned trip and instead spent roughly eight hours at the White House.

6:33Afterwards, a flurry of subpoenas were issued to the Times reporters who worked on the stories. The subpoenas demand that they provide evidence in front of a grand jury this Wednesday. In a statement, a Justice Department spokeswoman said that, quote, reporters are not the targets, those leaking classified information are. A top lawyer for the Times, meanwhile, called the subpoenas a brazen act of intimidation designed to, quote, prevent the public from knowing what is happening in their country.

7:11The Times has learned that in the six months since American forces captured Venezuela's president, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has been running the country. According to interviews with more than a dozen officials and people close to the governments in both Washington and Caracas, Rubio now effectively controls Venezuela's finances, the distribution of its natural resources, and its government. Officials have dubbed him Viceroy, the title given to powerful Spanish governors who once ruled Venezuela. While Rubio hasn't been there in person this year, he's in close contact with the country's acting president, Delcy Rodriguez, sending her WhatsApp messages in Spanish, and he's deeply involved in the day-to-day operations of her country.

7:56For example, The U.S. Treasury receives the revenues for most of Venezuela's exports, like oil. Then Rubio and his team disperse the money back to Venezuela, setting their own conditions on how it can be used. Rubio also controls U.S. sanctions, deciding who gets to do business in Venezuela. Beyond that, he's been consulted on government appointments that Rodriguez is making, including the Minister of Defense. And the Trump administration even exerts control over Rodriguez's public appearances and statements. Rubio declined multiple requests by the Times for an interview, though he's previously described the administration's plans for Venezuela as a three-part strategy.

8:39Recover the shattered economy, stabilize the country, and transition it to democracy. But critics have accused the U.S. of siphoning Venezuela's vast oil reserves and propping up an authoritarian regime by leaving Maduro's team largely in place. The current arrangement also keeps the U.S. entangled in the fortunes of a government that's deeply unpopular. There had been growing calls for new elections and political change in Venezuela, even before the government's slow response to the recent deadly earthquakes set off a new wave of public anger.

9:22And finally... It's a dinosaur. Uh-huh. Sam Neill, the actor best known for saving the day as Dr. Alan Grant in Jurassic Park, has died at 78. Don't move. He can't see us if we don't move.

9:44Neil's performance as a grouchy scientist turned action hero made him the Hollywood star you'd want to get stuck on an island full of dinosaurs with. But his long career stretched far beyond trying to outsmart very clever velociraptors. I remember in little dramas at school and walking on stage and thinking, I feel really good. I'm really enjoying this. Born in Northern Ireland and raised in New Zealand, Neil once described to ABC Australia how he overcame a childhood stutter to become a stage actor. You'd get a laugh and you'd think, this is really the best moment of my life to this point. After starting in theatre, where he was at one point paid partly in plates of lasagna, he rose to fame in Australia and New Zealand and made it to Hollywood by the 1980s.

10:33In all, he appeared in more than 150 productions over a five-decade career. Some of his most recent projects include a return to the Jurassic Park series, a turn in the Thor franchise, and a role in Peaky Blinders, the gritty British crime show. Neil also developed a social media following for his posts about raising farm animals back in New Zealand, many of which he named after his fellow actors. And now, who are these? Oh, well, that's Helena Bonham Carter. She's a real cow. In his memoir, looking back at his life, Neil jokingly credited all his success with the fact that he changed his name at 11 years old.

11:15You never want to be called Nigel. Nigel, no mates. You know, Nigel, no friends. Officially born Nigel John Dermott Neil, he switched to Sam, a name he'd seen in Westerns, saying it was the best decision he ever made. Those are the headlines. Today on The Daily, one grocery store owner explains how he's trying to stay afloat as food prices keep rising and shoppers buy less. You can listen to that in the New York Times app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Tracy Mumford. We'll be back tomorrow.

From the publisher

Plus, Sam Neill of “Jurassic Park” fame dies at 78.

Here’s what we’re covering:

Lindsey Graham, Republican Senator and Staunch Trump Ally, Dies at 71, by Robert Jimison, Zachary Woolfe and Amelia Nierenberg

How Trump Failed to Secure the Strait of Hormuz in His Iran Deal, by Edward Wong, Michael Crowley and Eric Schmitt

What’s in the Housing Bill That Just Became Law, by Conor Dougherty

Times Journalists Subpoenaed as Trump Escalates Pressure on Media, by Michael M. Grynbaum

How Marco Rubio Is Running Venezuela From Afar, by Tyler Pager and Anatoly Kurmanaev

Sam Neill, New Zealand Screen Actor and Leading Man, Dies at 78, by The New York Times

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