In short
The episode covers: Trump’s one-month-old war update with Iran, including his claim the U.S. doesn’t need Strait of Hormuz oil and his “Stone Ages” escalation rhetoric; Solon Cano-Youngs says Trump offered no clear endgame strategy and that global oil-price ripple effects contradict the Strait claim. It also summarizes Supreme Court skepticism of Trump’s birthright-citizenship limits (affecting 200,000+ newborns/year) and lawmakers’ plan to end a partial Homeland Security shutdown, with hard-right opposition over ICE/Border Patrol funding. It notes Artemis II’s moon departure and SpaceX’s confidential IPO filing, potentially making Elon Musk a trillionaire. Finally, it discusses schools scaling back laptop/Chromebook use due to distraction and bullying, citing a Kansas middle school’s more limited device loaning.
Guests
Solon Cano-Youngs (White House reporter, The New York Times) and Natasha Singer (education/tech reporter, The New York Times).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Address on the War with Iran
0:00 to 0:26
Discussion of President Trump's recent speech and its implications.
“This podcast is supported by Planned Parenthood Federation of America.”
Trump's Address on the War with Iran
0:45 to 2:14
Discussion of President Trump's recent speech and its implications.
“It's been just one month since the United States military began operation.”
Reactions to Trump's Claims on Oil
2:14 to 2:55
Exploration of Trump's remarks on the U.S. relationship with the Strait of Hormuz.
“Trump basically juggled between endorsing negotiations for an end to the war while also promising an escalation of the type of violence that we've seen.”
Birthright Citizenship Supreme Court Case
2:55 to 4:24
Update on the Supreme Court hearing regarding birthright citizenship.
“it's going to have ripple effects across the globe, including on the United States.”
Government Shutdown Update
4:24 to 5:16
Overview of efforts to end the partial government shutdown.
“Legal experts called it a show of power and potentially an attempt to intimidate the justices.”
NASA's Artemis II Mission
5:16 to 6:05
Details on NASA's Artemis II mission and its objectives.
“They see the deal as caving to Democrats, because it specifically leaves out new funding for ICE and Border Patrol.”
SpaceX's IPO Plans and Elon Musk's Future
6:05 to 7:30
Discussion on SpaceX's plan to go public and its financial implications for Musk.
“we will hold our celebration until this crew is under parachutes and splashes down.”
The Debate on Screen Time in Schools
7:30 to 9:30
Exploration of how schools are reconsidering the use of technology in classrooms.
“I went to an English class where the teacher gave the students a choice.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This podcast is supported by Planned Parenthood Federation of America. Here's a story that's not getting nearly enough attention. Defunding Planned Parenthood has already caused chaos and harm, and access to essential reproductive care is plummeting. Right now, the Trump administration's backers in Congress want to permanently defund Planned Parenthood, forcing even more health centers to close, and millions at risk of losing access to care. It takes less than a minute to help. Go to plannedparenthood.org slash defend and make a gift of any size. From The New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford.
0:37Today's Thursday, April 2nd. Here's what we're covering.
0:45It's been just one month since the United States military began operation. Epic fury. Last night, in a primetime address, President Trump delivered what the White House had billed as an important update on the war with Iran. Our objectives are very simple and clear. We are systematically dismantling the regime's ability to threaten America or project power. Walking away from this speech, there was really no revealing news. What stuck out to me is that President Trump essentially used this speech to almost plead with Americans to keep this war in perspective. Solon Cano-Youngs covers the White House for The Times.
1:28He tacked through the lengths of other conflicts that America has been involved in. He talked about the length of the Vietnam War. It lasted for 19 years, five months and 29 days. Iraq went on for eight years, eight months and 28 days. And then he compared it to this war, which is about a month in. This is a true investment in your children and your grandchildren's future. But while the president tried to provide assurance to Americans and make his case for why he believes the conflict is necessary, he did not provide something that's been missing from his messaging for weeks. And that's an articulate, clear strategy for the way forward with the war and how it will end.
2:14Trump basically juggled between endorsing negotiations for an end to the war while also promising an escalation of the type of violence that we've seen. We're going to bring them back to the Stone Ages where they belong. One more takeaway as well. The president continued to distance the United States from the Strait of Ormuz. He said that the United States didn't need the oil that goes through the Strait. And yes, while the U.S. does not import as much oil from the Gulf as other nations, President Trump's comments ignore the reality that oil prices are set globally and that a disruption like this in the strait, it's going to have ripple effects across the globe, including on the United States.
2:59And the gas prices are showing it. Meanwhile, following Trump's claims in his speech that Iran's missile and drone systems have been severely weakened, Iran's Revolutionary Guards Corps released a statement this morning denying that, saying that the United States and Israel, quote, know nothing about our vast and strategic capabilities.
3:26Now, a few quick updates on other big stories we've been tracking. At the Supreme Court yesterday, the Trump administration defended the president's push to limit birthright citizenship. We're in a new world now, as Justice Alito pointed out to, where 8 billion people are one plane ride away from having a child who's a U.S. citizen. Well, it's a new world. It's the same Constitution. But a majority of the justices appeared skeptical of their arguments. Key conservatives on the court raised doubts about the constitutionality of Trump's executive order, which calls for no longer automatically giving citizenship to the children of undocumented immigrants or some temporary foreign visitors.
4:03The order, which has been caught up in court challenges since Trump signed it, could affect an estimated 200 ,000-plus newborns every year. The justices are expected to issue their decision in late June or early July. In an unprecedented move, Trump himself went to the court yesterday to watch the hearing, something no sitting president has ever done before. Legal experts called it a show of power and potentially an attempt to intimidate the justices. Trump got up and left abruptly as the lawyer challenging his order was speaking. Also in Washington, after six weeks and counting, lawmakers say they have a plan to end the partial government shutdown and reopen the Department of Homeland Security.
4:45It could get pushed through as soon as this morning. It's the same bipartisan deal that had been floated last week before President Trump and Republicans in the House angrily rejected it. Since then, there have been behind-the-scenes talks at the White House and on Capitol Hill about how to break the stalemate. While Congress is technically in the middle of a spring break recess, there are special sessions today that could allow the measure to pass. That requires, though, that not a single lawmaker object. And some hard-right Republicans could still throw a wrench in things. They see the deal as caving to Democrats, because it specifically leaves out new funding for ICE and Border Patrol.
5:24And high above the earth. Integrity. Guidance converged. Performance nominal. Upper stage RCS ready. NASA's Artemis II mission has now successfully begun its journey to the moon. Outstanding stand. We see the same and we have a beautiful moon rise. We're headed right at it. It's at the very start of a mission that will take it 250 ,000 miles away from Earth as it passes all the way behind the moon. It's expected to make it there on Monday before using the moon's gravity to swing back to Earth without needing to use any power from its engines. Other than a brief hiccup with the comms and an undisclosed issue with the toilet on board that was resolved, the mission seems to be going well, though the head of NASA said yesterday that, quote, we will hold our celebration until this crew is under parachutes and splashes down.
6:18In other news on the space front, the Times has learned that SpaceX, Elon Musk's rocket and satellite company, is quietly planning to go public. Yesterday, the company filed confidentially for an IPO, an initial public offering, according to two people familiar with the plan. That could bring in a huge infusion of cash, possibly tens of billions of dollars. But it would also force the company to become more transparent. Musk has made big promises about the company's goals, like creating a colony on the moon, sending people to Mars, and launching floating AI data centers into orbit, many of which are unproven long shots, and going public would amp up the pressure to deliver.
7:01One investment manager whose firm has a stake in SpaceX said he thinks it's a terrible time to go public right now, given the global economic upheaval. But he said Musk needs cash to fund the expensive, ambitious projects he's pitched. SpaceX values itself at more than a trillion dollars, and it would be one of the most valuable companies ever to reach the stock market. Musk himself, of course, stands to profit. An IPO could put him on the path to becoming the world's first trillionaire.
7:39And finally... I went to an English class where the teacher gave the students a choice. They could do the lesson on paper or they could write it in their Chromebooks, but most of the kids decided to use paper. Most of the students I talked to said it felt kind of good not to be on the devices all the time. My colleague Natasha Singer has been covering how schools have become a battleground in the fight over screen time. It started with restrictions on cell phones, but now some districts are taking another look at laptops. For at least a decade, tech companies have urged schools to have one laptop per kid, competing to get their products in the classroom.
8:16The idea was that laptops would help kids learn, prepare them for the workplace, and if everyone had one, it would level the playing field. But studies have found that digital tools have generally not improved students' academic results or graduation rates, and they've sparked other issues. And were people sending each other mean messages? Yes, definitely. And how often was that happening? Like, all the time. Natasha talked with students who said even things like Google Docs became tools to bully other kids. Some students just got super distracted by having a screen in front of them all the time.
8:55Faced with this, one middle school in Kansas recently asked all students to return the laptops they'd been using freely in class and at home. Now they're loaned out sparingly for specific activities assigned by a teacher. Like, we're actually using it for schoolwork and no one's, like, messing around on them. I had students tell me that they're talking more to their peers because they're not burying their faces in Chromebooks anymore. They're collaborating more. And so we're not talking about a school that is, like, returning. It's not the new Luddism. It's not, right? It's like they are moving to what they call more intentional, more purposeful tech use.
9:33And so it's no longer sort of this knee-jerk, oh, we have to write something. Let's get out to Chromebooks.
9:42Those are the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. We'll be back tomorrow with the latest and the Friday News Quiz.
10:03Planned Parenthood has already caused chaos and harm, and access to essential reproductive care is plummeting. Right now, the Trump administration's backers in Congress want to permanently defund Planned Parenthood, forcing even more health centers to close, and millions at risk of losing access to care. It takes less than a minute to help. Go to plannedparenthood.org slash defend and make a gift of any size.
From the publisher
Plus, does every middle schooler really need a laptop?
Here’s what we’re covering:
5 Takeaways From Trump’s Address on Iran, by Luke Broadwater and Tyler Pager
Key Justices Appear Skeptical of Limiting Birthright Citizenship, by Abbie VanSickle
G.O.P. Leaders Strike Deal to End Homeland Security Shutdown, by Carl Hulse and Michael Gold
Artemis II Completes First Day of Its NASA Lunar Mission, by Kenneth Chang
SpaceX Files to Go Public, Setting Stage for Huge I.P.O., by Ryan Mac, Lauren Hirsch and Maureen Farrell
Chromebook Remorse: Tech Backlash at Schools Extends Beyond Phones, by Natasha Singer
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