Trump Says Suspect in Custody in Kirk Shooting, and the Fight Over Nonstick Pans

12 Sep 2025 · 12 min · 5 chapters

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In short

NYT “The Headlines” roundup covering (1) Trump’s claim about a suspect in custody in the fatal Kirk shooting, (2) international politics in Brazil and Nepal, (3) U.S. policy and industry fight over PFAS in nonstick cookware, and (4) teens using vintage MP3 players/cassette devices amid school phone bans.

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No podcast guests are interviewed in this transcript; it’s a solo news host segment (Tracy Mumford) with references to NYT colleagues.

Key claims

Trump says a person is in custody in connection with Charlie Kirk’s killing, based on preliminary info. Brazil’s Supreme Court convicted Jair Bolsonaro of plotting a failed coup; Nepal’s Gen Z protesters are negotiating with the army after a violent uprising and PM resignation. PFAS “forever chemicals” raise cancer/birth-defect risks; industry argues pans are safe with responsible use.

Notable examples

Bolsonaro’s alleged assassination plot evidence; California PFAS phaseout vote; Minnesota cookware ban; chefs Rachel Ray and David Chang defending nonstick; students buying iPods/MP3 players/Discman/cassettes via eBay.

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Trump on Custody in Kirk Shooting

0:38 to 1:23

Discussion on Trump's statement about a suspect in the Kirk shooting.

“Can I always say, I think, just to protect us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else.”

Bolsonaro's Conviction in Brazil

1:28 to 2:59

Update on former President Bolsonaro's conviction and implications.

“Now, two quick updates on international stories we've been following.”

Nepal's Uprising and Government Crisis

2:59 to 3:58

Overview of the political situation in Nepal amidst protests.

“His conviction is expected to escalate tensions between Brazil and the U.S.”

Concerns Over Non-Stick Cookware

3:58 to 5:54

The growing debate over non-stick cookware and PFAS chemicals.

“They said they were worried that the frenzy of arson and vandalism, which seemed to come from other protesters, not the students, would overshadow their political goals.”

High School Students Embrace Vintage Devices

5:54 to 6:18

High school students turning to old tech amid new phone bans.

“and Colorado, Connecticut, and Maine are moving forward on similar efforts.”
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0:32From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Friday, September 12th. Here's what we're covering.

0:44Can I always say, I think, just to protect us all and so Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else. But I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him. Speaking on Fox News this morning, President Trump said that a person was in custody in connection with the fatal shooting of the right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. And while he cautioned that his information was preliminary, he said it was, quote, the person we're looking for. Trump offered few details, saying that a minister who is a member of law enforcement had communication with the father of a suspect in the shooting, and the person was turned in to the authorities.

1:23For live coverage of the latest, go to nytimes.com.

1:34Now, two quick updates on international stories we've been following.

1:43In Brazil yesterday, the country's Supreme Court convicted former President Jair Bolsonaro of plotting a failed coup to try and stay in power after he lost the 2022 election there. Bolsonaro, a combative voice in right-wing politics, has been called the Trump of the tropics. And my colleague, Ana Yanova, who's based in Brazil, says that he and a close circle of allies spent months planning to overthrow the government. The churches against him encompassed So vast conspiracy that essentially included attempts to overturn the result of the election. So doubt about the country's electoral process, recruit military leaders to help with a coup, and in a particularly alarming element of the plot to potentially assassinate the president-elect, his running mate, and a Supreme Court justice.

2:37Ana says that during Bolsonaro's trial, troves of damning evidence were brought forward. including records showing that the assassination plot was printed out and brought to the presidential palace. Bolsonaro was sentenced to just over 27 years in prison, though he might stay on house arrest, where he's been closely watched by police who feared he would try to flee the country. His conviction is expected to escalate tensions between Brazil and the U.S. President Trump has been one of Bolsonaro's key allies, and he hit Brazil with steep tariffs to try and pressure prosecutors to drop the case altogether.

3:14Trump called the guilty verdict, quote, very terrible. Also, in Nepal, the country is on edge after a dramatic uprising led by young protesters left its capital buildings in smoking ruins and its government without any functioning leadership. Thousands of troops are patrolling the streets of Kathmandu, And the army has been in negotiations with the so-called Gen Z protesters over the future of the country and who should take power. Nepal's prime minister resigned earlier this week amid the surge in anger over a strict social media ban, government corruption and economic inequality. The country's president hasn't been seen in public since Monday.

3:57Yesterday, Times reporters talked with some of the Gen Z protesters who were out in the streets cleaning up debris from the chaos. They said they were worried that the frenzy of arson and vandalism, which seemed to come from other protesters, not the students, would overshadow their political goals. One 18-year-old said, quote, we wanted a revolution, but they burned down our country.

4:27Across the U.S., efforts to ban non-stick cookware because of safety concerns about the chemicals they contain are growing. But the cookware industry is fighting back by recruiting celebrity chefs. The controversy centers around PFAS, or forever chemicals, which have been linked to an increased risk of some cancers, birth defects, and other health issues. Scientists have warned that PFAS can end up in food when nonstick cookware overheats or gets scratched. The even bigger risk, they say, is in the manufacturing process. Research shows that's caused significant pollution and contaminated drinking water.

5:07The chemicals are so ubiquitous, at this point they can be found in the blood of almost every American. Now, in California, lawmakers are about to vote on phasing out PFAS. But the cookware industry has enlisted Rachel Ray and other prominent chefs to speak up in defense of nonstick pans. They're arguing that they're safe when used responsibly. David Chang, best known for his Momofuku restaurants, wrote in a letter to legislators, the reality is that some foods are extremely difficult to cook well without nonstick pans. All of the chefs enlisted by the industry sell or endorse cookware lines. The California vote could come as soon as today.

5:50There's already a ban in Minnesota on forever chemicals and cookware, and Colorado, Connecticut, and Maine are moving forward on similar efforts.

6:05and finally to all the cassette players the walkmans and the old ipods out there lost in a box in the back of a closet under a thick layer of dust arise your time is now this school year a growing number of high school students headed back to class facing new cell phone bans. Then I remember my mom gave me an MP3 player. Girl. So they've been turning to the long-forgotten devices as a substitute. They can't tell me nothing because this isn't Bluetooth, and this doesn't have internet and can't text. Did I just crack the code? The students, looking for a distraction between classes or to listen to music at lunch, have been buying vintage devices off eBay or digging them out of their parents' old stuff.

6:48Some are at least staying this century with iPod shuffles, but school administrators say there have been sightings of a Sony Discman and even cassette tapes. A high school junior in New York State told The Times he bought a cheap MP3 player to listen to songs during study hall, calling it a more old-school method. His mother, overhearing that, groaned, saying, quote, Hearing him say old school makes me want to crumble into a pile of dust. Those are the headlines. If you want to play the Friday News Quiz, stick around. It's coming up after the credits. This show is made by Will Jarvis, Jessica Metzger, Jan Stewart, and me, Tracy Mumford.

7:28Original theme by Dan Powell. Special thanks to Isabella Anderson, Larissa Anderson, Jake Lucas, Zoe Murphy, Katie O 'Brien, Chloe Shakin, and Paula Schumann.

7:40Now, time for the quiz. Every week, we ask you a few questions about stories The Times has been covering. Can you answer them all? First up. Well, it's the end of an era and the start of a new one for one of the world's most powerful families. This week, the Murdoch family announced that the long-running battle for control of its media empire reached an end. Its many newspapers and TV networks, including Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and The New York Post, will stay under the control of Rupert Murdoch's chosen heir, his son Lachlan, who's expected to keep their strong conservative bent. Meanwhile, some of Rupert's other children are walking away with no power but a billion dollars each.

8:25The very public saga had stretched on for years and was so juicy, it even served as the backstabbing inspiration for a critically acclaimed TV series. Your question? What show was it?

8:41I'll give you a little hint here.

8:49The answer? I'm the eldest boy! I am the eldest boy! Succession, the HBO drama that went on to win 19 Emmys. One time, a reporter actually wrote to Rupert Murdoch to ask, you know, what did he think of the show? And he did write back. It was just a short, quick note. Quote, never watched it.

9:14Okay, next question. Also about some long-running, high-profile drama. After days of feverish speculation, a long-awaited reunion has taken place. The two have been estranged since 2020. This week, two well-known public figures reunited for their first in-person meeting in more than a year, amid rumors of a deep rift. It was all very closely watched, very highly scrutinized. The question? Can you name the pair?

9:45I will give you a hint. They met over tea.

9:52The answer? Prince Harry and his father, King Charles, met in London on Wednesday for the first time since February of 2024. Family relations have been rocky since Harry and his wife Meghan stepped down from their royal duties a few years ago and moved to California. There's been a lot of tension, including over whether Harry and his family should get ongoing security protection, and over his decision to publish a tell-all memoir, which a Times-Review called emotional and embittered.

10:26And last question. A lot of people say fall doesn't really start until the equinox, September 22nd. But the leaves are beginning to turn, kids are back in school, and in the surest sign yet, that the seasons have changed. I got a pumpkin spice caramel macchiato. Oh, it's so perfect. Pumpkin spice lattes are back on the menu at Starbucks. The company basically gave fall a flavor when it rolled out the drink over 20 years ago. And since then, many, many, many other companies have carved their own niche into the market with pumpkin spice products. Your question, which of these are actually available for purchase?

11:08Pumpkin spice hummus, pumpkin spice dish soap, pumpkin spice deodorant, pumpkin spice trash can liners. Hummus, dish soap, deodorant, trash can liners.

11:25The answer? I'm sorry to say, all of them. Experts say the entire category didn't even really exist until Starbucks debuted their latte. But now that cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, clove, allspice combo has made pumpkin spice products a nearly$800 million annual industry. That is it for the news quiz. But before we go, I have a confession. I have never actually had a pumpkin spice latte. I've never tried one. But we are changing that right Right now. Here we go. The scent is thick.

12:05Oh, okay. That's, yeah, the aftertaste is like strong candle. But that's okay. I guess happy fall, all. If you want to tell us how you did on the quiz or what you think about it, you can always email us at theheadlines at nytimes.com. And yes, we do write back. I'm Tracy Mumford. Headlines will be back on Monday.

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Plus, your Friday news quiz. 

On Today’s Episode:

Trump Says Person Is in Custody in Connection With Kirk Shooting, by Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs, Devlin Barrett, Glenn Thrush, Maggie Haberman and Isabella Kwai

Bolsonaro Sentenced to 27 Years in Prison for Plotting Coup in Brazil, by Ana Ionova and Jack Nicas

Nepal’s Young Protesters Find an Unlikely Partner: The Army, by Alex Travelli

States Want to Ban ‘Forever Chemicals’ in Cookware. These Chefs Say Don’t Do It, by Hiroko Tabuchi

Their Schools Banned Phones. Out Came the iPods and Cassette Players, by Callie Holtermann

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