In short
Trump’s claims about autism causes (Tylenol/acetaminophen and vaccines), a Supreme Court fight over firing an FTC commissioner, ABC’s decision to pause and then restart Jimmy Kimmel, Secret Service discovery of a large cell-network-crashing device cache near the UN, and NASA unveiling new astronaut candidates.
Guests
Emily Baumgartner-Nunn (NYT health reporter) discusses medical guidance on acetaminophen in pregnancy. No other named guests appear; Jimmy Kimmel is featured as a returning subject, not interviewed.
Key claims
Trump said acetaminophen “is not good” and could cause autism; experts say evidence is inconclusive and recommend low-dose, least-frequent use. Court may overturn 1935 precedent on removing independent regulators. ABC paused Kimmel after comments tied to Charlie Kirk; Sinclair won’t air the show. Secret Service found 100,000 SIMs/300 servers within 35 miles of the UN.
Notable examples
acetaminophen studies on pregnancy; FTC precedent (1935); “shadow docket” criticism; UN “Super Bowl of spy games”; NASA’s 10 candidates (6 women) including Erin Overcash.
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Chapters
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0:45 to 3:08
Discussion on President Trump's controversial statements regarding autism and Tylenol use.
“and don't take any pills that have no autism.”
Supreme Court and Presidential Power
3:08 to 5:22
Analysis of a Supreme Court ruling affecting presidential authority over independent agencies.
“and the Commissioner of the FDA announced there will be more research into autism, with millions in federal funding going to study other environmental factors, including a long-debunked theory that blames vaccines.”
Kimmel's Return and Free Speech Debate
5:22 to 7:58
Coverage of Jimmy Kimmel's show return amid controversies and discussions on free speech.
“Tonight, Jimmy Kimmel will be back on the air.”
Secret Service's Discovery of Spy Devices
7:58 to 10:01
Details on the Secret Service uncovering a network of devices suspected for nefarious purposes.
“The top agent at the Secret Service's New York field office said the investigation is ongoing, but, quote, there's absolutely no reason to believe we won't find more of these devices in other cities.”
NASA's New Class of Astronauts
10:01 to 10:14
Announcement of NASA's new astronaut candidates and their future training.
“you really want to be able to say, Don't open that hatch!”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hi, my name is Dana. I am a subscriber to the New York Times, but my husband isn't. And it would be really nice to be able to share a recipe or an article or compete with him in Wordle or Connections. Thank you. Dana, we heard you. It's why we created the New York Times Family Subscription. One subscription, up to four separate logins for anyone in your life. Find out more at nytimes.com slash family.
0:32From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Tuesday, September 23rd. Here's what we're covering.
0:43I think I can say that there are certain groups of people that don't take vaccines and don't take any pills that have no autism. That have no autism. Does that tell you something? That's currently, is that a correct statement, by the way? At the White House yesterday, President Trump joined top federal officials for a press conference about the root causes of autism. the neurological disorder whose symptoms can range widely, from struggling to read social cues to being unable to speak. The meteoric rise in autism is among the most alarming public health developments in history. There's never been anything like this.
1:21Autism diagnoses in children have been rising. Public health experts say a big part of that is increased awareness. More people are talking about it with their kids' doctors. There have also been decades of research into potential risk factors, including everything from air pollution to the age of people's parents, as scientists overwhelmingly agree that autism results from a complex mix of environmental factors and genetics. Taking Tylenol is not good. I'll say it. It's not good. President Trump claimed, though, without new evidence, that it could be caused by acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol.
2:01It's something scientists have looked at for years. Studies have so far yielded inconclusive results. A scientific review this summer found there was evidence of a link between acetaminophen use during pregnancy and neurodevelopment disorders like autism and ADHD, but not a definitive cause-and-effect relationship. Don't take Tylenol. Don't take it. If you just can't, I mean, it's just fight like hell not to take it. My colleague Emily Baumgartner-Nunn covers health at The Times. She says that the president's repeated warnings about Tylenol flew in the face of recommendations from leading medical groups, which say that limited acetaminophen is safe during pregnancy.
2:44So far, all of the scientific experts we've spoken to since that press conference have stood by their previous opinion, which is that Tylenol or acetaminophen should only be used in pregnancy in low doses at the least frequent interval possible, but that sometimes Tylenol is necessary because fevers during pregnancy can really bring about all of their own risks. At the press conference, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the Commissioner of the FDA announced there will be more research into autism, with millions in federal funding going to study other environmental factors, including a long-debunked theory that blames vaccines.
3:30At the Supreme Court, the conservative majority has said that President Trump can fire one of the heads of the Federal Trade Commission, setting up a court battle over the limits of presidential power. When Trump moved to fire the Democratic member of the FTC earlier this year, her lawyers fought back, pointing to a ruling from the Supreme Court in 1935 over a nearly identical scenario when President Franklin D. Roosevelt tried to fire an FTC commissioner. In that case, the court ruled that presidents cannot remove independent regulators just because they disagree over policy. Now, by issuing their emergency order letting her be fired, the court is suggesting it's open to overturning that landmark precedent.
4:13It will hear full arguments in the case in December. The liberal justices, meanwhile, issued a sharp dissent, with Elena Kagan writing that it opened the door to presidents firing regulators, quote, for any reason or no reason at all, and that her colleagues were essentially letting the president take control over agencies that were supposed to be protected from partisan politics. Kagan also made a broader critique of the way that the court was making its decision, through its emergency docket, which is also known as the shadow docket. That fast-track process where the justices can issue unsigned and unexplained rulings without having heard oral arguments, has been criticized for years.
4:54But it's come under increasing scrutiny as the Trump administration has brought more than 20 emergency applications to the court this year alone. Kagan warned that the court's majority was using that process to let the administration steamroll over the court's own precedent and, quote, reshape the nation's separation of powers.
5:22Tonight, Jimmy Kimmel will be back on the air. In the last week, the late-night host has been at the center of a political firestorm and a fierce debate over free speech in the U.S. His show was abruptly paused by ABC after he made comments about the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination that angered conservatives, and after the head of the Federal Communications Commission suggested that he might crack down on stations that broadcast Kimmel's show. In a statement, Disney, which owns ABC, said it had stopped production, quote, to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country.
5:59Kimmel had been planning an opening monologue about the whole controversy that made executives nervous. The Times has learned that after the show was pulled, leaders from Disney sat down with Kimmel and his lawyer to figure out a path to getting the show back on air. In that first meeting, Kimmel did not agree to change his script. A decision about what Kimmel will say tonight was made yesterday after more discussion. Though he'll be returning to ABC, it's not yet clear exactly how widely the show will be broadcast. At least one of the TV companies that publicly criticized Kimmel, the conservative media giant Sinclair, has said it won't be airing the show.
6:36Sinclair owns about two dozen ABC affiliates and had previously called on Kimmel to apologize to Kirk's family and make a donation to his political group, Turning Point USA.
6:54This morning, the Secret Service announced that it uncovered and dismantled a cache of devices in the New York region capable of crashing the cellular network. The agency said it found more than 100 ,000 SIM cards and 300 servers set up in a sophisticated configuration. They were stashed in several locations, all within a 35-mile radius of the United Nations headquarters in Manhattan. This week is the annual General Assembly at the UN, which draws more than 100 foreign leaders and their staff. Given the sensitivity of the gathering, where allies can be sitting right next to enemies, it's been described as the Super Bowl of spy games.
7:35The Secret Service, which oversees security for the event, says it made the discovery last month. Officials at the agency told The Times there's no evidence that the network, the largest they'd ever seen, posed a direct threat to the conference. But the illicit system could have interfered with emergency response services, jammed communications, or even been used for eavesdropping. One cybersecurity researcher said that only a handful of countries could pull off this kind of operation, including Russia, China and Israel. The top agent at the Secret Service's New York field office said the investigation is ongoing, but, quote, there's absolutely no reason to believe we won't find more of these devices in other cities.
8:25And finally. So I had just finished flight training for the day and my spouse and I were on the couch. We get a call from an unknown number and we both look at each other. And then we're like throwing blankets and pillows. Oh, my gosh, where's the remote? Turn the TV off. Yesterday, Erin Overcash, a 34-year-old Navy pilot, took the stage at a press conference in Houston to describe getting the call. The call that she would be one of NASA's new class of astronauts. He effectively said, do you still want the job? And the first words that I said on the phone were, no way. I mean, I mean, yes, of course, but like, no way.
9:03Overcash is one of 10 new astronaut candidates that NASA unveiled yesterday, chosen from over 8 ,000 applicants. The majority have a military background, and six of the 10 are women, the first time that women have outnumbered men. One of these 10 could actually be one of the first Americans to put their boots on the Mars surface, which is very, very cool. Again, no pressure, NASA. We have some work to do. Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy, who is also the acting head of NASA, touted the government's big plans for the space program, including trips to the Red Planet and beyond. First, though, the candidates need to complete two years of training.
9:46They'll learn to fly NASA's T-38 jet planes. And because Russia is NASA's main partner on the International Space Station, where most astronauts are sent, they also need to learn to speak Russian. Because if things go sideways up there, you really want to be able to say,
10:07Don't open that hatch! Those are the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. We'll be back tomorrow.
From the publisher
Plus, America’s new astronauts.
Here’s what we’re covering:
Trump Issues Warning Based on Unproven Link Between Tylenol and Autism by Azeen Ghorayshi
Supreme Court Allows Trump to Fire F.T.C. Commissioner by Abbie VanSickle and Ann E. Marimow
Jimmy Kimmel’s Show to Return to ABC on Tuesday Night by John Koblin, Brooks Barnes, Michael M. Grynbaum and Benjamin Mullin
Cache of Devices Capable of Crashing Cell Network Is Found Near U.N. by Eileen Sullivan
Women Outnumber Men in NASA’s Newest Astronaut Class by Kenneth Chang
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