In short
BBC History Hour “Witness History” episode drawn from BBC archives, focused on how audio recordings preserve personal testimony and cultural memory. It strings together multiple archive discoveries: a 1978 BBC interview with cellist Mstislav Rostropovich after Soviet citizenship was revoked; Nelson Mandela’s reflections on Robben Island; King Hussein of Jordan’s accounts of assassination attempts; Anton Chekhov’s inspiration for Three Sisters via a 1938 interview with Paul Shishkov; surrealist artist Eileen Agar’s 1937 South of France circle with Picasso; and the 1966 Jules Rimet Trophy theft resolved via dog Pickles.
Guests (people featured)
Joe Schultz (BBC curator, Soviet musicology PhD); Ludovic Kennedy (interviewer in Rostropovich recording); Jen Dale (host/narrator for Mandela segment); Arthur Miller (interviewed with Mandela in 1991); Tariq Hussain (curator who found Chekhov-related interview); Paul Shishkov (Chekhov’s childhood acquaintance, interviewed 1938); Jane Wilkinson (narrator for Hussein segment); Jack Pizzi (interviewer in Hussein documentary); Jonathan Charlton (digital archivist for Agar segment); Uma Doriswamy (narrator for Pickles segment); David Corbett (Pickles’ owner, interviewed 2010).
Key claims & examples
Rostropovich says exile/citizenship revocation was sudden and meant to instill fear; he defended Solzhenitsyn and was punished. Mandela describes Robben Island cold, hard labor, limited family contact, smuggling letters, and “final victory” hope leading to release in 1990. Hussein recounts bullets/bombs/poison plots (including a would-be assassin betrayed by palace cats). Shishkov claims Chekhov used their garrison-life details for Three Sisters. Agar recalls Picasso killing a hornet with a knife and surrealist summer amid looming war. Pickles finds the stolen World Cup trophy in a package after a decoy ransom drop.
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0:00 to 1:02
Explore remarkable stories including Nelson Mandela and King Hussein.
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Historical Stories from the Archives
2:17 to 3:19
Explore remarkable stories including Nelson Mandela and King Hussein.
“Hello and welcome to the History Hour from the BBC World Service with me, Max Pearson.”
Slav Rostropovich: A Life in Music and Politics
3:19 to 12:09
Learn about the life and struggles of cellist Slav Rostropovich.
“And we start with a discovery by the BBC curator Joe Schultz, a remarkable interview with one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century, Mr Slav Rostropovich.”
Joe Schultz on Discovering History
12:09 to 14:00
BBC curator Joe Schultz discusses the importance of preserving audio history.
“So Russian music and culture has always been of interest to me.”
BBC Archive Discoveries
14:00 to 16:56
Learn about the importance of preserving archive material and notable discoveries.
“The vast majority of our holdings are held in third-party storage and these get delivered to the Broadcast Centre as required.”
Nelson Mandela: A Life in Struggle
16:56 to 26:44
Explore Nelson Mandela's journey from political prisoner to president.
“And now another landmark recording from the BBC archives that gives a new insight into the well-documented life of one of the towering figures of the late 20th century.”
King Hussein of Jordan: Survival and Leadership
27:23 to 28:06
Discover the challenges faced by King Hussein and his resilience.
“the four-legged hero who found the stolen Jules Rimet trophy ahead of the 1966 World Cup, and Pablo Picasso invites fellow artists for a surrealist summer in the south of France.”
King Hussein's Childhood Trauma
28:06 to 29:38
Learn about King Hussein's early experiences with violence and loss.
“I am at my best when there is a challenge, when there is a problem, when I'm involved in it.”
Hussein's Ascension and Early Reign
29:38 to 31:09
Explore the challenges faced by King Hussein as he became king at a young age.
“the enthronement of King Hussein was the occasion for national prayers as well as widespread rejoicing.”
Assassination Attempts and Survival
31:09 to 33:11
Discover the multiple assassination attempts on King Hussein's life.
“The king declared martial law and despite surrounding himself with bodyguards, he also became an assassin's target.”
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Hussein's Legacy and Challenges
33:11 to 35:46
Understand King Hussein's political strategies and his approach to governance.
“And bizarrely, one attempt was foiled thanks to the palace cats.”
Hussein's Reflection on Kingship
35:46 to 36:51
Hear King Hussein's thoughts on his role and legacy as king.
“The last journey for King Hussein of Jordan, one of the central figures in the search for peace in the Middle East, is on the point of death.”
Meeting Chekhov: A Young Boy's Perspective
36:51 to 40:02
Learn about Paul Shishkov's childhood experience with the playwright Anton Chekhov.
“Paul Shishkov was just ten years old when his family became the inspiration for one of Chekhov's most famous works.”
Fishing and Influence: Chekhov's Creative Process
40:02 to 42:00
Explore how Chekhov's time with Shishkov inspired his writing.
“But one day she caught us talking, and she said I mustn't ever go out with him again.”
Chekhov's Influence and Personal Life
42:00 to 44:36
Explore how Chekhov's personal relationships and experiences influenced his work.
“focusing on the everyday lives of real people.”
Chekhov's Health and Final Works
44:36 to 45:30
Learn about Chekhov's struggle with tuberculosis and his completed masterpieces.
“Well, I remember him having his portrait painted.”
Eileen Agar's Surrealist Journey
45:30 to 49:44
Discover Eileen Agar's transition to surrealism and her experiences with famous artists.
“Next, a little-known and quirky moment in history discovered by digital archivist Jonathan Charlton.”
The Carefree Days of Surrealism
49:44 to 53:30
Witness the joy and creativity of the surrealist artists during their summer in France.
“We used to have lunch in the courtyard and there was a lot of laughter and gaiety.”
Pickles the Dog: A World Cup Hero
53:30 to 56:00
Learn about Pickles the Dog and his unexpected role in the World Cup trophy story.
“Her story was brought to us by the digital archivist Jonathan Charlton using BBC interviews and film excerpts from Lee, directed by Ellen Kuras from Sky Original.”
The Discovery of the Stolen World Cup
56:00 to 58:28
Learn about the dramatic moment when Pickles the dog found the stolen World Cup trophy.
“and the undercover officers arrested the sender, Edward Betchley, who came to collect it.”
Pickles' Rise to Fame
58:28 to 1:01:02
Explore how Pickles became a national hero and received recognition for his role in the trophy's recovery.
“he went along to a London hotel to receive his award, a silver medal presented by the National Canine Defence League.”
Aftermath of the World Cup Theft
1:01:02 to 1:02:21
Understand the implications of the World Cup trophy theft and the eventual fate of Pickles.
“But it was the real Pickles who was part of the England team's celebrations.”
Preserving BBC Sound Archives
1:02:21 to 1:02:35
Hear about the efforts to digitize and preserve the BBC sound archives used in this episode.
“as he sadly died in 1967 whilst chasing a cat.”
Preserving BBC Sound Archives
1:02:46 to 1:04:45
Hear about the efforts to digitize and preserve the BBC sound archives used in this episode.
“Sporting Witness takes you to the events that have shaped the sports world through the eyes of the people who were there.”
Transcript
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2:17Hello and welcome to the History Hour from the BBC World Service with me, Max Pearson. This week's collection of Witness History episodes, which have been drawn from some of the many gems to be found in the BBC archives, including Nelson Mandela on how he survived prison in South Africa. It was a very terrible time because Roman Island could be very cold and they were very scantily dressed without underwear and that cold go right into our morals. Plus, Pablo Picasso and fellow artists on a surrealist summer in 1930s France, the inspiration behind Anton Chekhov's most famous play, and Jordan's King Hussein on facing assassination attempts.
2:59The assassin was still shooting. One of the bullets glanced off a medal I was wearing. Another passed so close to my ear that it left some burns. So each story you'll hear has been uncovered from the archives. Some are landmark recordings, some a little known and a little strange, and some have not been aired for decades, but all illustrate the value of preserving our audio recordings. And we start with a discovery by the BBC curator Joe Schultz, a remarkable interview with one of the greatest musicians of the 20th century, Mr Slav Rostropovich. It was recorded in 1978 after the legendary cellist had been stripped of his Soviet citizenship for so-called unpatriotic activity.
3:42Not one word's true. Not one word. We love our country. We're not against our government. We're not against. We're not political people. You know, we only try help for our arts, for our music, for our literature, for our people, for our country. Mustislav Rostropovich was born in 1927 to a musical family in Baku, Azerbaijan which was then part of the Soviet Union He was a child prodigy and quickly became a darling of the Soviet leadership which cultivated the best Soviet artists in its competition with the West Traditionally, composers had written the most exciting music for violin but Rostropovich wouldn't stand for that He was determined to elevate the cello to the level of the violin, and he convinced the world's leading musicians to compose works for him.
4:38In doing so, it's said that he shaped the history of the cello more than any other person. But he grew increasingly disillusioned with Soviet repression. The Red Army, which just a few short weeks before had gone home, was back. The Czechs and the free world had not anticipated this. But the hammer and sickle had returned to pound and cut the Czechs' hopes of a liberal, self-governing communist way of life. In 1968, Soviet-aligned Czechoslovakia experimented with political and economic liberalisation. In response, Soviet tanks rolled into Prague and crushed any resistance. Rostropovich was due to perform at the proms in London the following night.
5:16In a twist of fate, he would be performing with the Soviet State Symphony Orchestra, playing a piece composed by the Czech Antonin Dvorak. As he played, tears streamed down his face. The performance is still remembered for its raw emotion, often interpreted as an apology. The following year, Rostropovich's privileged position in society began to crumble. The Soviet writer, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, had won international fame with his novel One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, which lifted the lid on the horrors of Soviet labour camps. He was persecuted by the regime, leaving him destitute. But in 1969, In 2009, Rostropovich and his wife, the renowned opera singer Galina Vishnevskaya, gives Solzhenitsyn a place to stay.
6:06Government official people tell to Galina and to me, please take off Solzhenitsyn from your home. And we tell, no, we have no reason. That's we not speaking with Solzhenitsyn about politics. But Solzhenitsyn is a human being and our friend. For many things, for some things, we possibly make different point of view. but that's human. That's why we immediately refused this proposition. Rostropovich wrote a letter to the Communist Party newspaper Pravda defending Solzhenitsyn and demanding that every man must have the right to think independently and express his opinion about what he knows. It was an incredibly bold move and he was punished.
6:48Rostropovich was banned from playing outside the USSR and performances at home reduced dramatically. Before, my house was open door. So many people coming, my guests, my friends, and always non-stop telephone. But over the last two years, I was near to alone in my home with my family because all people, even my friends, worried to make contact with me. By 1974, with his career in tatters, Rostropovich applied to leave the USSR for two years. The Soviet leader, Leonid Brezhnev, granted his request. In May of that year, he began a new life abroad, with his wife and two daughters, quickly establishing himself as one of the leading conductors and cellists in the West.
7:39But in March 1978, his world was turned upside down, as he told the BBC's Russian service days later. In the evening, on the 15th, Galina Pavlovna and I were sitting watching television together and the news came on. And we heard about it on the news. At that moment, the phone rang. It was the National Symphony Orchestra calling me from Washington. In amazement, I walked over to the telephone and they said, You know, we're watching the news on TV right now that they've stripped you of your Soviet citizenship. It was a tremendous shock for us. It was totally unexpected. No one had spoken to us, no one asked us anything.
8:22It just happened like that. They took the decision and drove us out.
8:30In the days that followed his exile, the New York Times suggested it was probably driven by a hardening mood in Moscow towards the outside world and descent. I think they're doing it so that everyone will worry that it could happen to them too. You know, in 1936 and 1937, so I'm told, I'm too young to remember, but I read a lot about it, every family worried that at any moment they would come at night, arrest you and take you away. Every family felt it, regardless of whether they were guilty of any kind of anti-Soviet activity whatsoever. In the late 1930s, the Soviet Union was in the midst of Joseph Stalin's great terror.
9:14when anyone the Soviet leader saw as a threat was purged. Millions were sent to the Gulag work camps, with around 750 ,000 executed. I hope things don't get as bad as that now. I pray to God that such misfortune won't fall on my country again. But all the same, now they've taken away our citizenship, everyone can start to worry. Maybe they'll take mine away too. It's just a way to make people feel a kind of cowardice, to force them to tremble in the face of completely groundless, unjustified decisions. Rostropovich and his wife were labelled ideological renegades by a Soviet government newspaper.
10:01Nobody understands this. Nobody in our country also understands. This is BBC's Ludovic Kennedy, interviewing Rostropovich a few weeks after his citizenship was revoked. Sir, let me ask you this. When you lived in Russia, how much private criticism was there of the Soviet government and all its repressive and restrictive measures? All my friends criticise, exactly like we criticise, but only different people tell this openly. And our friends think about this, but not tell openly. It seemed like one of the greatest musicians of his day would never see his homeland again. He enjoyed great success in Europe and North America, but he kept a watchful eye on news from the East.
10:50And eventually, the political climate changed. Mikhail Gorbachev's transformation of the Soviet bloc led to the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, and in sheer joy, Rostropovich played Bach cello suites beside the crumbling wall all night long. The videos were beamed around the world to millions.
11:15In February 1990, he made a triumphant return to Moscow as music director of the Washington National Symphony Orchestra. In 2002, he was interviewed again by the BBC about his life and, more specifically, his love for his instrument. Our life is not so easy. Cellular heavy instrument and our travels, especially with aircraft, give to us many, many difficulties. That's why we suffer more than a violin player or a flute player. But because we suffer, we are beautiful.
11:58The words of Mr Slav Rostropovich, who died in 2007. And that story was brought to us by one of the BBC's curators, Joe Schultz, who discovered the recording. Let's unpack that a bit with Joe. How did you find that interview? So Russian music and culture has always been of interest to me. I've actually got a PhD in Soviet musicology. I've got a long-standing interest in how state powers can affect and influence their own artists. and given that citizenship and what makes someone qualify as an accepted community member are such huge topics in the current climate i just decided to see what i could find on rostropovich in the archive as we heard he had his citizenship revoked by the soviet union despite being one of the most celebrated artists of all time so yeah i was amazed that we found such interesting footage we think that some of these interviews probably hadn't been heard since the 1970s so yeah it was a really exciting find.
12:56Extraordinary. The BBC, of course, has existed for more than 100 years. So you're digging in an enormous archive when you're looking for something. What are the other sorts of materials that are kept in our archives? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we've got millions of assets across a wide range of media. So as well as the radio content, which is my specialty as a radio curator we've got a huge amounts of audio visual materials that goes across the total range of the bbc's tv output we've got an extensive still photo library we've got one of the largest known collections of sheet music which is a working library that serves the bbc performing groups and the bbc proms and we've also got a base at caversham where we house the written archive Centre.
13:42Here we've got correspondence, contracts and so on from stars and other people that did work for the BBC across its history. So yeah, we've really got material that covers all bases in our archives. And it's a vast amount of material. Where is it all kept? So we recently moved to the Broadcast Centre in White City in London. The vast majority of our holdings are held in third-party storage and these get delivered to the Broadcast Centre as required. there we've got a large storage room which hold incoming and outgoing assets so we're still working with these physical tapes vinyl photo negatives what have you and we've still got some facilities on site including digitization on demand so quite a large portion of the archive has been digitized there's a lot more to do and we're hoping that ai tools such as speech to text voice recognition they may help us unearth more things in the future that we didn't know that we actually had you talk about audio tape and vinyl and stuff the bbc's early attempts at recordings go back through some extraordinary techniques and this is all physical stuff which is still recorded on cylinders and things like that as well you know we still use all kinds of physical media and we've got the actual original machines to play these back as well so no we're dealing with with all kinds of assets here and there must have been some amazing things thrown up by people working within the archives what stands out for you from recent times yeah we discovered many things over the years probably one of the most notable was one of my colleague elliot who found a beatles interview a few years ago which hadn't been heard in 60 years so this was a really lucky find he and his team had just checked a sample of some recently digitized reel to reels but they weren't listening to them all the way fully and Elliot just happened to select a handful to listen to and the second one was the Beatles one so it was really a kind of a needle in a haystack situation.
15:39Another of my colleagues Tarek found an obscure archived interview with Lieutenant Renya Mutaguchi which was for the 80th anniversary of VJ Day. This was actually in Japanese and never made it into the original program for which it was recorded but we were able to get it translated and ended up making it into the second map radio for history podcast which shedded entirely new light on an old story but you know we find interesting recordings all the time i mean just the other day i found a an incredible recording of a woman who lived through the siege of paris in the 1870s describing her experiences there as a young girl um and whenever we find interesting stuff we try to pass it onto the witness history team wherever we can and it may be sort of clear to the likes of you and me why this stuff is important but for a wider audience why is it important to protect an archive material like this yeah i mean it's absolutely essential it um it maintains society's collective memory it ensures the organizations just like the bbc don't lose their history and heritage through housing and using this stuff we're able to tell stories of communities all across our society, understand our past and kind of reflect the society that we all live in today.
16:57That's the BBC curator Joe Schultz. And now another landmark recording from the BBC archives that gives a new insight into the well-documented life of one of the towering figures of the late 20th century. Because we're going back to the 1960s when Nelson Mandela was leading the fight for majority rule in South Africa. Here's Jen Dale. In 1960, South Africa was under the apartheid regime, which legalised racial segregation and discrimination. Nelson Mandela was part of the African National Congress, the ANC, which argued that all races should have equal rights and the vote. After years of peaceful protest, the movement decided they had to be more militant, as he told a 1990 BBC documentary.
17:44To resort to violence was a very agonising decision. We had done everything in our power to try all options open to us. Not only was there no improvement as far as our living conditions are concerned, but the government took advantage of our commitment to non-violence and decided to even be more vicious.
18:11Things came to a head in March in the township of Sharpeville when 69 protesters were killed by police. Fearing retaliation, the government declared a state of emergency and banned the ANC. The ANC formed a military wing, known as Spear of the Nation, with Mandela at the helm. I had very young children, a young wife, but the instruction came from the leadership that I must go underground and organise now resistance against the government, the arms struggle in particular. Mandela, tagged by the press the Black Pimpernel, travels in and out of the country, constantly on the move, in disguise. During that time, bombs were planted to sabotage government infrastructure and cause economic damage.
18:59In 1962, Mandela was arrested. At the Rivonia trial of 1963, Mandela and nine others are charged with sabotage and attempting to overthrow the state. I have cherished the idea of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an idea for which I hope to live and to see realized. But my Lord, if it needs to be, it is an idea for which I am prepared to die. Accused number one is found guilty on all poor Cults. Accused number two is found guilty on all the sentence in the case of all the accused will be one of life imprisonment. On the 13th of June 1964, Nelson Mandela was taken to Robben Island in the Atlantic, seven kilometres from the South African mainland.
20:06It's been a leper colony, a military base, but most famously the place where Nelson Mandela was banished for 18 of the 27 years he spent in jail. The sign over the entrance to the prison read, Welcome, we serve with pride. There were several long rectangular one-storey stone buildings and tall watchtowers at each corner of the perimeter walls topped with spirals of barbed wire. He spoke about his arrival with acclaimed American playwright Arthur Miller in a 1991 BBC documentary, Arena, Miller Meets Mandela. Can you recall the day when you first stepped onto Robben Island with a life sentence in front of you?
20:49I remember that very well. They woke us up at midnight and told us that we were being flown to a place where we would have perfect freedom within, behind prison walls. And that turned out to be Roman Island. They took us there in an army plane. We were in separate cells, each one as its own cell. You could hardly do any exercise there. It was so small. He had a bucket for a toilet, a mat for a bed and a small barred window. It was a very terrible time because Roman Island could be very cold and we were very scantily dressed without underwear and that cold would go right into our morals. They were made to do hard labour.
21:37We worked firstly inside the prison in a courtyard. What they did was to bring stones which we had to crush into fine powder, which was a very heavy type of work indeed. Later then they took us to the quarry to dig lime. Very difficult thing, you know, to dig because it is between layers of rock, hard rock. To get to the lime you have to break the top layer and then you scoop the lime out. Hard labour outside and hard living conditions inside with strict rules. Prisoners couldn't sing, they couldn't whistle. But Mandela found ways to make things a little more bearable. We learned to befriend a warder in charge of the section because in many cases he is more important than the commissioner of prisons because if you went to the commissioner of prisons and he said, it is very cold, I want four blankets, He would look at the regulations and say, you know, the regulations say that in winter you must have three blankets, not four.
22:45But if you went to the warden in charge of your section and you say, I want four blankets, he just goes to the storeroom and gives it to you if you're friendly with him. But a friendly warden was no substitute for seeing the friendly face of a loved one. On Robben Island, that was a rarity. My wife saw me every six months of 30 minutes. Was there a glass between you? Yes, there was a partition. At first I could communicate with her every six months, write one letter to her and received a letter from her. That was the only letter that was allowed. Then later the period was reduced to three months and later to a month.
23:29Despite the lack of contact with the outside world, Mandela and his co-inmates found innovative ways of getting news. Sometimes we'd be lucky to work not very far from a rubbish dump and of course it can be gold, you can find newspapers. Yeah, right. And then on such days we used to accumulate a lot of information. And they managed to send out information too. It is the duty of political prisoners when they come to a place to prison to work out ways of keeping in contact with their constituency. For example, I was able to smuggle out a number of letters for publication. And it was only when they had been printed that they became aware of what was happening.
24:15After 18 years at Robben Island, Mandela was moved to prison on the mainland. But his hope for freedom didn't diminish. When you are a political prisoner and there is growing support for the ideas for which you are now suffering, you are immediately put on a level where hope becomes very strong. Now that feeling remained with us throughout the 27 years. The certainty of final victory was always there. The final victory came on February 11th 1990 when Nelson Mandela walked free from prison after serving more than a quarter of a century behind bars. But he looked back on his time in prison without bitterness.
25:00I would like to think in terms of the advantages which I gained from serving a long jail sentence. The ability to be able to see yourself in action in the past, and the mistakes and weaknesses which you committed, and the excitement of preparing for the future. I found these very rewarding. Words that are still able to inspire. In 1994, Nelson Mandela became South Africa's president, the country's first black leader after free elections. He died in 2013, aged 95. Those archive recordings of his reflections on his time in jail were brought to us by Jen Dale. Ever invest in something that seemed incredible at first, but didn't live up to the hype?
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27:17Make your summer sizzle at Whole Foods Market. Still to come, the inspiration behind Anton Chekhov's most famous play, Three Sisters, the four-legged hero who found the stolen Jules Rimet trophy ahead of the 1966 World Cup, and Pablo Picasso invites fellow artists for a surrealist summer in the south of France. Picasso really liked meeting friends that he knew were through somebody else, you see. He didn't like people he didn't know. But before that, another gem from the BBC treasure trove, this time looking at what remains a deeply troubled region of the world. This is the story of the so-called Survivor King, who saw off numerous attempts on his life to become one of the Middle East's longest-serving leaders.
28:05Jane Wilkinson has been through the archives to find out more. I am at my best when there is a challenge, when there is a problem, when I'm involved in it. And life has been this way for so long, ever since my childhood. King Hussein of Jordan, speaking in a 1978 BBC documentary about surviving several assassination plots involving bullets, bombs and poison. His first brush with death was at the age of just 15 in 1951, when his grandfather, King Abdullah I, was targeted by a gunman. I was possibly here a couple of pieces behind him and almost immediately I saw a man come out from behind the door to our right his revolver in his hand pointing at my grandfather and held the shot and so as in a nightmare my grandfather turned and fell and the machine gun opened from inside the assassin was still shooting and he turned towards me in shock One of the bullets glanced off a medal I was wearing.
29:16Another passed so close to my ear that it left some burns. I turned around towards my grandfather and we made a stretcher out of one of the carpets, but it was apparent that it was all over. The killing would lead Hussein's succession to the throne just two years later, after his own father stepped down because of illness. In the city of Amman, capital of Jordan, the enthronement of King Hussein was the occasion for national prayers as well as widespread rejoicing. The ceremony was simple and brief. The king took the oath to uphold the constitution and to be loyal to the nation. And there were days of celebrations, as Hussein explained to the BBC's Jack Pizzi in the Survivor King documentary.
30:00What did it feel like to be a king at 17? It felt like something I never expected or anticipated, not that early in life. Yet when I came back here and found the warmth of that welcome by the people of Jordan, I felt right there and then that I'd do anything and everything in my ability to live up to their expectations. The new king began economic reforms with support from Britain and America. But Hussein's closeness to Western governments was criticised by other Arab leaders. And he was also unpopular with the increasing number of Palestinian refugees living in Jordan, who believed he was too conciliatory to neighbouring Israel.
30:44Anti-Western rioters have put great pressure on the rule of the 21-year-old king. With the help of loyal army units, Hussein tries to clamp a lid on a situation that could explode into civil war. In 1970, the tension erupted during Black September, when violent clashes between Hussein's troops and the Palestine Liberation Organization led to thousands of deaths. The king declared martial law and despite surrounding himself with bodyguards, he also became an assassin's target. It was an ambush. He was traveling with his aides in a car when they were suddenly stopped by machine gun bullets coming from above the road.
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31:26People jumped out of the car and started yelling at me to do the same. It took me a few seconds and then I saw the bullets sort of creating a pattern on the road and I decided it was time to do the same. I did and we ended up in a ditch. However, we had enough of a chance to at least turn the car around and by that time there was a bit of fire from our side that enabled us to get in the car. Except for the fact that I found that I'd lost my berry in the ditch in the process. One does very silly things. I asked the driver to stop and I got out and got my berry and put it on. under this heavy fire and we drove off.
32:01I can never understand why I did that. And it wasn't the only attempt to kill the king. A decade earlier, Jordan's Prime Minister, Hazar al-Majali, had died in a bomb attack. And a second device, intended for Hussein, missed him only by minutes. Syrian intelligence services were behind the explosions. according to a later memoir by one of the group. They accused Hussein of being a Western puppet and an obstruction to Arab unity. And there were other plots. I've always suffered from sinus problems and I had special nose drops that I would have whenever I felt an attack was coming. I had used a certain bottle of this medicine some while before but then I decided it might have been a little old and so I asked someone to throw it in the sink and empty it and I used the new one.
32:54The person immediately came horrified at the results. The enamel began to bubble and we still had a part of the substance in the bottle and we sent it to be examined. It turned out to be acid. Well, fortunately, I didn't use it and it was one more escape. And bizarrely, one attempt was foiled thanks to the palace cats. This time it involved an assistant cook. My grandfather had always been very fond of cats, and so have I. And I kept noticing that the cats, in terms of the numbers I saw around the palace, were diminishing. Some dead cats had been spotted. So we began an investigation, and it turned out that, again, this fellow had been approached and had been given some poison that he was meant to use in my food.
33:42And he was experimenting to see whether it worked or not. So the cats led us to a would-be assassin. But the king appears to have been philosophical about his close shaves with death. I have been fortunate to escape their attempts. I seem to survive under duress. Deep inside one may be worried, but one has to put on a facade of a smile and to give everyone else confidence. Do you ever think I really would like to give this up, be a man in the street? If it were God's will, maybe. If I felt there ever was an obstacle in the part of my people or what they were striving to achieve, by all means. But no, I haven't thought of it.
34:25But the king did have some critics in Jordan, who objected to him often suspending parliament, firing prime ministers and cancelling elections. What do you say to people who would say that you're an absolute monarch? Well, I'm not an absolute monarch because the machinery is there. except for Parliament. And obviously that is a very important link that is missing. But beyond that, I continue to give advice wherever possible and to give encouragement. You say you give advice, but when it really comes to a decision, who decides? In the normal way, it has to reach right up to the top. And on many issues, my decision is sought.
35:02And over the next decades, Hussein continued to tread a delicate line between the opposing sides in the Middle East. ultimately winning an international reputation as one of the main forces for stability in the region. This is still a poor country, but it's strategically vital. Sandwiched between Israel and its main Arab enemies, King Hussein has held it together. Well, in the final analysis, the problems do not go away at the end of office hours. The life of the country, its future, peace in this area, will it be attained or not? All that we are building in the shadow of danger. the courage of a pupil, what their reward ought to be.
35:42And not only for us, but for everyone in the area. In 1999, after 46 years as ruler and several assassination attempts, the king fell ill with cancer. The last journey for King Hussein of Jordan, one of the central figures in the search for peace in the Middle East, is on the point of death. 20 years earlier, in the BBC documentary, he'd reflected on the legacy he wanted to leave behind. If you had your life over again, would you choose to be king of Jordan? It wasn't a choice, it was a duty. And I've enjoyed it with all its sadness and with all its burdens. So long as I had the feeling that I was serving the people of Jordan and was able to contribute towards a better future for them.
36:27King Hussein died at the age of 63 and his funeral was attended by more than 60 heads of state and government, some who had been sworn enemies. He was succeeded by his son Abdullah II. The beauty of the BBC Archive is that it covers decades, even centuries of history, and moments which shed light on our cultural past, including an extraordinary interview about the life of the great Russian playwright Anton Chekhov. Paul Shishkov was just ten years old when his family became the inspiration for one of Chekhov's most famous works. Shishkov's 1938 interview with the BBC was unearthed by the curator Tariq Hussain.
37:08And, just a warning, it does contain language of its time. It's the summer of 1897, and young Paul is living with his family around 50 miles from Moscow in rural Vaskina when he first meets Chekhov. The 37-year-old writer is spending the warmer months at his home in neighbouring Melikova and resting after the end of Moscow's theatre season. He was a very unassuming man. Kind eyes, he was gentleness personified. You couldn't imagine him ever arguing or losing his temper, but at the same time you couldn't imagine taking liberty with him. He was too aloof, you know, that kind of detachment. And the quietness of his voice and the complete absence of heat in his speech, somehow he kept even the most aggressive type of day.
37:54During the long, hot summer days they spend together, Shishkov often accompanies Chekhov on fishing expeditions and rambling through the countryside and gets to see a side of the writer hidden from the outside world. Chekhov liked walking in the forest, hunting for our Russian white mushrooms or wild berries, and fishing. Chekhov loved fishing, but he had very little chance in Medicovo. Just an artificial pond dug out, poorly stocked with fish. But at Vaskinov, we had a big lake with fish of all kinds in it then carp and pikes and perch and so on. We used to have important discussions about the best kind of bait to use.
38:31The schoolboy already knew two members of Chekhov's household, meeting the author's Dachshund dogs after arriving earlier with his family that spring. These dogs were called Bromide and Quinine. Chekhov was a doctor, you know, and he gave his dogs medical names. You see, they are short names in Russian, quite good for dogs.
39:00The puppies were a gift from Chekhov's publisher a few years earlier. The animals follow him everywhere, but not on days when he needs time to think about his writing. Chekhov didn't take his dogs out for walks much. That's a purely English habit, you know, to take dogs for walks all the time. They would have been a nuisance in the forest when he wanted to concentrate on thinking out a new story or a play. I knew, without him telling me, that he wanted to be quiet. He liked just sitting quietly by the shores of the lake, avoiding everybody and meditating. But the fishing gave something else for his hands to do, and that helped him to be all the more at rest.
39:37Shishkov makes frequent visits to the playwright's cottage, surrounded by apple trees and a cherry orchard. From here, Chekhov uses his medical skills to provide free care to some of the labourers, and it's also where he was at his most creative and wrote numerous works, including the first of his four major plays, The Seagull, in 1895. My mother had made it a strict rule that I was never to talk to him at all when we were out together. But one day she caught us talking, and she said I mustn't ever go out with him again. I might interfere with his thinking. Anyhow, she said, putting live worms on hooks and catching fish by their mouth was cruel and not good for little boys.
40:17But Chekhov protested. He said fishing developed patience in a boy, an accurate observation of nature. He'd certainly learned that. Anyhow, Chekhov won the argument. And as their closeness grows during the days spent together, Chekhov begins thinking about a new play based on Shishkov's family and what he sees and hears during his regular visits. He was beginning to work on the idea of his play The Three Sisters. It's about life in a small Russian garrison town. Chekhov had no first-hand knowledge of military life, but my father was an army doctor, and my mother and her two unmarried sisters were the daughters of a general.
40:55The three sisters was what our neighbors used to call them, and we lived in the winter season in the garrison town of Batum. It was wonderful to see the way Chekhov set to work to drink in the atmosphere of our life there. One day, while we were fishing, he began to ask me about it. And I remember telling him with great excitement how I once saw two officers fight a duel in front of our house. I saw one of them turn round in front of my nursery window and fire three shots at the direction of our front door. I rushed to the drawing room, and the other officers staggered in, covered with blood, right in front of me.
41:34Well, you can see for yourself a check of Midovich and the three sisters. What's happened? This is a terrible day. I don't know how to tell you, Irina, my darling. What? Tell me quickly, what is it? For God's sake! The baron's been killed in a duel. This BBC radio dramatisation of Three Sisters in 1973 shows Chekhov's style, focusing on the everyday lives of real people. The sisters are desperate to leave their provincial town and return to Moscow. But as the drama continues, you realise the trip will never be made. Life's slipping away and it will never, never come back. We should never go to Moscow.
42:14I know we will. We should never get there. There, there, my dear.
42:21Oh, I'm so miserable. When it was published in 1901 and Shishkov's family saw the play for the first time, they are flattered by their influence. I quite understand how excited my mother was when she came back from the first night of the three sisters in Moscow. Again and again in the part of Masha, the married sister, she could recall the conversations and discussions she had had with Chekhov. And the other characters. Well, we could all recognize them so vividly. The officers of the garrison who used to drop into our house in Batum. The gentle, weak Baron Tussenbach. The dignified type of Colonel Vershinian with his interest in social problems and philosophy.
43:01And the aggressive Salioni, just the typical garrison life with all the little tragedies, the close circles, and the gossip of the small town. It was amazing to think that Chekhov had never seen that life himself. And his first ideas of it might have come when he sat fishing with me by the lake or walking through the forest with my mother. And it's during those times that Shishkov's mother grows fond of Chekhov and sets out to find someone he can share his life with. I remember then talking about marriage. Sometimes we used to have various eligible, interesting women staying at our place and mother hinting that he wanted to catch his eye.
43:40But it was pretty hopeless, because he always had a way of retiring into his den. I once heard Chekhov say, you should never marry an interesting woman. She'll only interfere with your work. And when mother pressed him to say what makes a woman interesting, he answered, well, an interesting woman, she's a woman who is quite virtuous, but with an element of vice. And the next thing is Jewish blood. It improves a woman very much. And then there are the actresses. You should never marry an interesting woman like that. Well, the next thing we heard was that Chekhov had married Knipper, the leading lady of his plays at the Moscow Art Theatre.
44:19And someone said he'd broken all his three rules at once. But Chekhov already knew he was severely ill. In March 1897, he'd been diagnosed with tuberculosis after coughing up blood and was advised to change his lifestyle. Shishkov recalls the signs of his worsening health. Well, I remember him having his portrait painted. The famous painter Brass came over to do it. And I remember the easel standing in the big house and Chekhov looking on all that as a painful duty that had to be gone through. Well, the picture became very famous, and I suppose blackness was very good. But we all said the nose was far too red.
44:59Chekhov certainly had a bit of a red nose. That was probably due to bad circulation. Paul Shishkoff speaking in a BBC interview recorded in 1938 and brought to us from the archives by Tariq Hussain. Bad circulation or not, Anton Chekhov moved to a villa in Crimea where he hoped the warmer weather would help his failing health and he spent a year completing Three Sisters and writing his final play, The Cherry Orchard. He died in 1904, aged 44. Next, a little-known and quirky moment in history discovered by digital archivist Jonathan Charlton. It's the summer of 1937, and some of the 20th century's most famous artists, writers and photographers are holidaying in the south of France.
45:46Under a blue sky and hot sun, Pablo Picasso is sitting at a picnic table. We were all lunching in the courtyard, and we all had our bikinis on the women, at least, and the men just bare-chested. an enormous hornet came buzzing round the table. And we women were sort of shrinking into our skins, you see, the terrifying thing. And Picasso watched it and he got up and took a carving knife and he went like that and cut it in two. And we all clapped because, you know, cut a buzzing hornet in two the first time. We thought it was marvellous. Meet surrealist artist Eileen Agar interviewed by the BBC in 1985 She's one of the holidaymakers who also include photographer Lee Miller her lover, Roland Penrose poet, Paul Elwar and the painter Man Ray Eileen's invitation to join this circle is recent Earlier in her career she'd been a different type of artist I'd been doing portraits and I think they were quite good but I felt I didn't want to be a portrait painter for the rest of my life.
47:01You have to paint people whom you mightn't be interested in and it would become a sort of routine thing. And so I packed up and went to Paris and saw these paintings and I felt rather liberated. People were doing things out of their imagination. I had never tried that but I wanted to very much. Eileen had discovered surrealism. A style of art inspired by dreams and hidden thoughts that can look strange and bizarre. And she becomes a keen convert. It seemed to me to be so natural. The surveys were always trying to probe into something deeper than base value. The other reality, which is deeper than the reality that you see.
47:50Eileen begins using everyday objects and washed up debris for her creations. Among her most famous works is a wearable sculpture, also known as the Ceremonial Hat for Eaton Boya Base. What is it? It's 18 inches wide and 18 inches high. There's a lobster, a tigerfish, a prawn, seashells and marine flowers and a starfish. Something to eat? No, a hat. The creation of surrealist artist Eileen Egar to the man in the street, it's all a bit confusing. It really was a cork basket and I thought it's no use to me as a basket, what on earth can I do with it? So I put it upside down and turned it into a hat and of course a hat needs decoration and I enjoyed putting as many shells and fish bones and anything to do with the sea.
48:43I gathered together. And with Eileen's new artistic style comes an introduction to a new set of people. The Surrealists. Examples of her work are even included in the 1936 International Surrealist Exhibition organised by artist Roland Penrose. They greeted me very warmly into their circle and took an interest in my work. By the summer of 1937, Aileen is among the group invited to the south of France, where Picasso is also staying in Mougin. I naturally couldn't say no to an invitation like that. And Roland met us in Cannes and motored us up. And when we arrived there, we were met by all of them.
49:30And it was very lovely. It was the start of a fortnight of sunbathing, swimming and picnics. Scenes featured in the 2023 film Lee about Miller's life and career. Lunch is served. We used to have lunch in the courtyard and there was a lot of laughter and gaiety. It was very pleasant. And then we used to go, all of us, to dance. So, I was thinking we should swim with our cocktails this evening. Wonderful. I agree. Picasso, they liked meeting friends that he knew were through somebody else, you see. They wouldn't be difficult. He didn't like people he didn't know. And so I met Picasso. He was lying on his tummy in the sand just before he went in for a swim.
50:19And I'd walked along the beach beforehand to see what I could find. I was always looking for material to make objects out of. And I'd come across an awful lot of discarded bits of old leather, which had been shoes. And I'd brought them back and I offered them to Picasso as an offering, homage. And he laughed, a whole pile of these odd-looking bits and pieces of rubber. And he said, yes, I saw those. He said, I nearly thought of making something out of them. Which was rather amusing. But elsewhere in Europe, the threat of war is growing. In Germany, Adolf Hitler is in power. And the civil war in Spain.
51:03Night after night, all over Spain, men are torn from their weeping families, lined up and shot. Scores of cities, towns and villages have been bombarded and burnt. More than 200 churches have gone up in flames. We knew that war was coming. And Picasso himself would say, there's no question about it, there's going to be a war. Or the great military parade through Berlin's Tiergarten shows that once again Germany has a real army, with more than half a million men ready to strike at a moment's notice. In France, the group tried to ignore the threat. Aileen goes beachcommon, Lee Miller photographs Picasso, Roland Penrose makes collages, Paul Elwar writes.
52:11He opened this trunk in the balcony and it was full of shards or pieces of pottery or anything that he found that interested him that he could make an object out of. The summer won't be the last time the Surrealists meet, but for Eileen, it is perhaps the most carefree. In two years' time, the war broke out, you see. The Nazis started their terrible doings. and we didn't know what had happened to Picasso for a long time. But then Lee Miller was the first to see him because she was working with the American forces and she got to Paris with him at the Liberation and the first person he went to see was Picasso and he was jolly glad to see her.
52:57It was marvellous. During the war, Aileen returns to London, later showing her works at exhibitions in New York, Tokyo, Paris and Amsterdam one of the few female surrealist artists of her time I'm very happy as long as I can work I would be very distressed to live a long time if I couldn't work because I wouldn't know what to do with myself
53:29Eileen Agar, who died in 1991 at the age of 91 Her story was brought to us by the digital archivist Jonathan Charlton using BBC interviews and film excerpts from Lee, directed by Ellen Kuras from Sky Original. Finally, as the 2026 World Cup begins, we've a sporting witness story from the archives. 60 years ago, there was an unlikely four-legged hero of the 1966 tournament, Pickles the Dog. Uma Doriswamy explains. Oh, he's the most famous dog in Britain, easy. I think he's the most famous sporting dog, and he could even be the most famous dog in the world. I think Lassie might have a thing or two to say about that.
54:17Anyway, it's Sunday 20th March, and the Jules Rimet Trophy, the World Cup Winners' Prize, is on display at a stamp exhibition in London. Or at least it was for 24 hours, as the organiser told the BBC. Throughout the opening hours of the exhibition, we had the cup under scrutiny and personal observation the entire time. Once the hall had been closed for Sunday, however, and all the doors were locked, the cup was still under personal observation. But the two guards involved, of course, were moving about the hall. And there were two downstairs as well. Despite there being four guards, the display case had been forced open and the trophy, worth£30 ,000, or$80 ,000 back then, had been stolen.
54:59And the police were hot on the case. Well, kind of. Can you say yet whether this is a stunt or whether this is a real theft? No, it would guess work. Is there any possibility that it may be returned, in your opinion, from what you've learned yet? We're hoping either that it's returned or that we find out where it is. This was a major embarrassment for England's Football Association, who had taken possession of the trophy from FIFA two months earlier in preparation to host the World Cup that summer. The FA released a statement saying it deeply regretted this most unfortunate incident, which inevitably brings discredit both to itself and the country.
55:44The hunt for the trophy intensified and a reward was offered to anyone who had information that could help find it. But then, a ransom note for£15 ,000 was sent to the chairman of the FA. The police arranged a decoy cash drop in Battersea Park in South London, and the undercover officers arrested the sender, Edward Betchley, who came to collect it. But the trophy was still missing.
56:15A week after it was stolen, Pickles, a black and white collie mongrel and his owner David Corbett were about to go for a walk. Speaking on the 50th anniversary of the theft, David described how Pickles became a national hero. I walk over to the car where the dog is and he's curiously round the wheel of my neighbour's car and laying up beside it was a package wrapped in newspaper, tied very tightly with string all the way up. I bend down and pick it up. It's very heavy. Go to the other end, tear a bit off there and it's a lady with a dish, a shallow dish above her head like that. World Cup! So, oh!
56:56Jump in the car, up to the police station. I rush in and slam it on the counter and I say to the sergeant, my God, I think I've found the World Cup. and he looks at me, looks at the cup and he says, something will always be in my mind, doesn't look very well cuppy to me, son. But the police weren't as happy as David expected as he explained to the BBC's Simon Watts in 2010. They start asking me a question, who are you, who's your mother, who's your father, he says, where have you been, have you ever been in trouble and all that sort of thing. and I think, oh, this could be a bit dodgy. I'm thinking I'm going to get all the accolades.
57:38Oh, we've earned the World Cup. We can present it to the winners of the World Cup, 66. And they start coming the opposite tack. So did you think you made a mistake then by handing it in? You got yourself in trouble. I did. I was sitting there during the lapses of them going in and coming out, asking me questions and then obviously going to check what I'm saying. I'm thinking to myself, I've done the wrong thing here. I should have left it where it was. I guess from their point of view, the story of a dog stumbling on the cup must have been pretty hard to believe, though. Yeah, that was. So, you know, I was thinking, well, it's obviously going to think that.
58:14So I'll calm myself down. They're going to think that. You're all right. You're innocent. You'll be OK. But once everything was cleared up, Pickles got the recognition he deserved. Pickles, the 14-month-old mongrel, found fame when he sniffed out the missing World Cup. With his master, David Corbett, he went along to a London hotel to receive his award, a silver medal presented by the National Canine Defence League. There were also appearances on children's TV programmes. And here we've got Pickles. Come on, boy. Come on, Pickles. Come on. Come on. Come on. I'll have to go get you. Oh, there you go, boy.
58:45Come on, Pickles. No. And if that wasn't enough glitz and glamour, he even made it to the movies.
58:54Yes, there was a film, A Spy With A Cold Nose. It was roughly about a bulldog and they put a microphone in him and they gave him to the Russian president so they could listen to it. And there was lots of dogs in it running around and he was just one of the dogs running around and all that. But we had about six or seven days up in Pinewood and making it. The good thing out of that, one of the agents said to me, would you like me to look after you for the agency for 10 %? and I said, oh, yes, please, because the phone was ringing all the time. I was unaware what you'd do. It just shows you how you're liking changing that flesh.
59:33There was also a bit of cash to be had. The National Sporting Club honoured the stolen trophy finders David Corbett and Pickles. Henry Cooper uncovered a special treat for Pickles, but it's turkey or nothing these days. The champ had something to impress David Corbett, though, a reward cheque for£1 ,000, presented by the club to Pickles and his owner for their part in recovering football's most coveted award. And then eventually it was on to the actual football. England beat West Germany 4-2 in the final but there were still fears that something else could happen to the trophy on the team's victory lap as Dr Kevin Moore, director of the National Football Museum, explained in 2016.
1:00:12The FA then were terrified of the trophy being stolen again after this huge embarrassment so they made a replica but in secret they didn't tell FIFA. They didn't tell the then president of FIFA who was English, Sir Stanley Rouse, former head of the Secretary of the FA. So there were then two Jure Rume trophies, including on the day of the final at Wembley in 1966. Both trophies were there. They were also at the presentation dinner that evening. And for the next four years, this replica trophy was used rather than the original for fear of that theft. And we see Bobby Moore lift the original and then they go round the pitch and...
1:00:49Then the swap is made. A bemused, confused Nobby Stiles is asked to take one trophy and is given another. And from then on, much of the time, most of the time, it's this replica rather than the real trophy. But it was the real Pickles who was part of the England team's celebrations. We went out on a roof terrace. All the crowd were outside and the team come out. but Bobby Moore picked him up and held him up to the crowd. It was a tremendous moment. Who got the biggest cheer then, Pickles or the Cup? Pickles got a big cheer, I tell you, it was very close. Life for Pickles and David unsurprisingly settled down after the World Cup, but England weren't the only winners that summer.
1:01:41I got about£5 ,000. That was the loss of justice for the insurance. Actually, at that time,£5 ,000 was quite a lot of money. It was a lot of money. And you were able to buy a house with it? Yes, well, I come down to lovely Leanfield here and I put a deposit on the house that I'm living in now. So he really changed my life completely, Pickles did. Nobody was ever convicted over the theft. The Jules Rimet Trophy was retired at the 1970 World Cup and kept by that year's winners, Brazil. The new one was also stolen in 1983. It was never recovered, perhaps because that time there was no pickles to help out, as he sadly died in 1967 whilst chasing a cat.
1:02:25Uma Doriswamy brought us that story using the BBC archives. And our hats off to all the good people working to digitise and preserve the vast BBC sound archives from which we have drawn this History Hour. We'll have more first-hand stories from the past for you next week, so do join us again then. For now, though, this is Max Pearson from all of us here. Thanks for listening. Goodbye.
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Max Pearson presents a collection of the week's Witness History interviews from the BBC World Service. And today, we’re celebrating international archives week, set up to highlight the importance of protecting the world's historical records.
Our guest is BBC curator Joe Schultz who talks about some of the jewels in the BBC radio collections. We find out why cellist Mstislav Rostropovich was stripped of his Soviet citizenship in 1978.
Anti-apartheid leader Nelson Mandela reveals how he survived prison in South Africa. Plus, Pablo Picasso and his fellow artists enjoy a Surrealist summer in 1930s France. And more on the inspiration behind Anton Chekhov's most famous play, Three Sisters.
We hear about the Jordanian king who survived numerous assassination attempts to become one of the Middle East’s longest serving leaders. And finally, Pickles the dog: the four-legged hero who found the stolen Jules Rimet trophy ahead of the 1966 World Cup.
Contributors:
Joe Schultz – BBC curator.
Mstislav Rostropovich - virtuoso cellist.
Nelson Mandela – former president of South Africa.
Eileen Agar – Surrealist artist.
Paul Shishkoff – friend of playwright Anton Chekhov.
King Hussein of Jordan.
Jack Pizzey – TV documentary-maker.
Pickles the dog – hero of the 1966 World Cup.
David Corbett – dog owner.
(Photo: Cellist Mstislav Rostropovich, 1950. Credit: Michael Ward/Getty Images)
