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Podcast Episode Notes: The History Hour - "The House of the Spirits and Tracey Emin's Unmade Bed"
Podcast Overview Title: The History Hour Description: A compilation of the latest Witness History programs from the BBC World Service.
Episode Summary This episode, hosted by Max Pearson, features a series of interviews highlighting significant historical events and figures, including:
- Isabel Allende and her novel *The House of the Spirits*
- Personal accounts from soldiers and survivors of historical disasters
- Tracey Emin's controversial artwork, *My Bed*
- The innovative Speedo swimsuit banned after record-breaking performances
- The origins of the world's longest-running animated TV series, *Sazai-san*
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Main Topics Covered
- Isabel Allende and *The House of the Spirits*
- Background: Allende's debut novel published in 1982 reflects Chile's 20th-century history and is a key example of Latin American magical realism.
- Personal History: Allende's family background, political connections, and the impact of the military coup in 1973 are intertwined in her storytelling.
- Narrative Style: The book includes elements of magical realism and follows the lives of the Trueba family across generations.
- Impact: The novel has sold over 70 million copies, influencing many female writers and globalizing the genre of magical realism.
Key Contributions
- Bárbara Fernández Melleda (Latin American Studies): Discusses the significance of magical realism, particularly in Allende's work, and its role in providing female perspectives in literature.
- The Battle of Gallipoli (1915)
- Personal Account: Rupert Westmacott, a soldier, recounts his experiences during the disastrous campaign.
- Destructive Conditions: Westmacott describes the horrors of war, the medical neglect, and the dire conditions faced by soldiers.
- Consequences: The campaign ended in failure for the Allied forces, with significant casualties.
- The Hillsborough Disaster (1989)
- Testimony by Jenny Hicks: A mother recounts the tragic events of the crowd crush that led to the deaths of 97 Liverpool fans.
- Safety Failures: The lack of crowd control and emergency response are highlighted as contributing factors to the disaster.
- Legacy: Calls for changes in safety regulations at sporting events, leading to a shift to all-seater stadiums.
- Tracey Emin and *My Bed*
- Artwork Overview: Emin's installation features an unmade bed surrounded by personal items, symbolizing her emotional state during a breakdown.
- Cultural Impact: The piece sparked debates about the nature of art and its interpretation, reflecting on issues like trauma and personal history.
- Recognition: Although initially controversial, Emin's work has been re-evaluated and celebrated as significant in British art.
- Speedo Laser Racer (2008)
- Development of the Suit: A revolutionary swimsuit that led to unprecedented success in competitive swimming but was later banned for giving unfair advantages.
- Technological Innovation: Details on the collaboration with NASA and the design process that made the suit a game-changer in swimming.
- *Sazai-san* - The Longest Running Animated Series
- Series Overview: Running since 1969, the show portrays the daily life of a traditional Japanese family.
- Cultural Significance: It reflects changing family dynamics and social norms in Japan over the decades.
- Creation Challenges: Insights from writer Shunichi Yukimuro on developing stories that resonate with audiences while maintaining cultural authenticity.
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Key Themes and Takeaways
- Historical Context: Personal narratives provide a deeper understanding of historical events and their impact on individuals and societies.
- Literary Influence: The evolution of literary styles, particularly the introduction of female voices in a predominantly male literary landscape.
- Art and Controversy: The intersection of personal trauma and artistic expression can provoke significant cultural discourse.
- Sport and Innovation: Technological advancements in sports gear can lead to ethical considerations and changes in regulations.
- Cultural Reflection: Long-running television series can serve as a lens through which societal changes are observed and analyzed.
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Contributors
- Isabel Allende - Chilean Author
- Rupert Westmacott - Soldier (Archival Interview)
- Jenni Hicks - Hillsborough Survivor
- Dame Tracey Emin - Artist
- Jason Rance - Former Head of Speedo's R&D
- Shunichi Yukimuro - Writer of *Sazai-san*
Conclusion The episode features a rich tapestry of narratives that explore various facets of human experience throughout history, from literature to art, war to sports, each providing insight into the complexities of life and culture.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGallipoli and Hillsborough: Historical Events
1:00 to 2:09
Discussion about significant historical events including the Battle of Gallipoli and the Hillsborough disaster.
“Hello and welcome to the History Hour from the BBC World Service with me, Max Pearson.”
Isabel's Journey: Family and Political Turmoil
2:09 to 11:10
Isabel Allende shares her experiences growing up in a politically charged environment and the effects on her writing.
“a very particular style of Latin American literature.”
The Legacy of Isabel Allende's Work
11:10 to 14:07
Discussion on how Isabel Allende's work influenced other authors and the narrative of magical realism.
“Isabel Allende was talking to Ben Henderson.”
Influence of Isabel Allende's Work
14:07 to 15:17
Explore how Isabel Allende's writing has impacted Latin American literature.
“Yes, and they can be addressed from different perspectives in the sense that it's based on reality, something that actually happened like the Asian Revolution or the coup d 'etat in Chile.”
The Gallipoli Campaign Overview
15:22 to 18:09
Learn about the strategic objectives and failures during the Gallipoli Campaign.
“It's 110 years since the end of the Battle of Gallipoli, one of the worst campaigns of the First World War.”
Experiences of a Gallipoli Soldier
18:14 to 21:11
Listen to a soldier's firsthand account of the Battle of Gallipoli.
“Professor Carl Bridge of King's College London.”
The Aftermath of Gallipoli
21:18 to 24:24
Understand the consequences and personal stories following the Gallipoli campaign.
“I borrowed a watch from a chap called Jobston, I think, so I could time the attack and go over, punch it at ten o 'clock.”
Transitioning to Tracey Emin's Art
24:27 to 24:44
Transition from wartime narratives to discussions on contemporary art.
“It's always astonishing to hear the remarkably matter-of-fact way in which veterans of such horrors recall their exploits.”
The Hillsborough Disaster Introduction
24:48 to 25:03
Introduction to the tragic Hillsborough disaster and its impact.
“When I eventually did get out of bed, went back, looked at the bedroom and couldn't believe what I could see.”
Jenny Hicks' Personal Account
25:03 to 28:00
Hear Jenny Hicks recount the harrowing details of the Hillsborough disaster.
“Two of the people who died that day were Jenny Hicks' daughters.”
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The Hillsborough Disaster: A Personal Account
28:00 to 33:41
Listeners will hear a poignant recounting of the Hillsborough disaster and its aftermath.
“Eventually, a tannoy message was put out.”
Transitioning to Avant-Garde Art
33:41 to 33:51
A brief transition introduces the next topic on avant-garde art.
“about her memories of one of the most tragic moments in British sporting history, the Hillsborough disaster of 1989.”
Tracey Emin's Unmade Bed
33:51 to 34:29
Explore the significance of Tracey Emin's controversial artwork 'My Bed'.
“takes us into the world of avant-garde art.”
The Context of 'My Bed'
34:29 to 35:27
Understand the artistic intentions and societal reactions surrounding 'My Bed'.
“on the day the winner of the prestigious Turner Art Prize was announced.”
Tracey's Early Life and Art Journey
35:27 to 36:35
Listeners will learn about Tracey Emin's challenging upbringing and its influence on her art.
“all of these subjects are really important because they have to be discussed.”
The Making of 'My Bed' and Its Reception
36:35 to 38:55
Discover the process behind creating 'My Bed' and the public's mixed reactions.
“When my dad came to England in 1948, and then a lot of his Cypriot friends, the Greek Cypriots, were in Margate.”
Reflections on 'My Bed' and Emin's Legacy
38:55 to 41:55
Tracey Emin reflects on her iconic work and its lasting impact on contemporary art.
“My Bed by Tracey Emin has grabbed more headlines than her fellow nominees.”
Controversy of My Bed
42:00 to 42:18
Learn about the controversy surrounding Tracey Emin's installation, My Bed.
“I don't want to be remembered as just being a 1990s mediocre artist.”
The Speedo Laser Racer's Development
42:19 to 44:40
Discover how the Speedo Laser Racer swimsuit was designed and its impact.
“We're dipping our toes into the world of sporting history next, and for this we're going all high tech.”
Secrets Behind Speedo's Success
44:41 to 47:59
Explore the innovations and testing that led to the Speedo Laser Racer's design.
“But the man behind the global research and development didn't have the experience you might expect.”
The Controversy of Competitive Suits
48:00 to 50:18
Examine the aftermath of the Speedo Laser Racer's success and the ensuing debate.
“I remember getting to Beijing and it was hugely exciting.”
Introduction to Japanese Animation
50:19 to 51:24
Learn about the long-running animated series Sazai-san and its cultural significance.
“We have to consider that the industry and the developments are there, the technology is there.”
The Story Behind Sazai-san
51:25 to 56:05
Explore the history, characters, and impact of Sazai-san over the decades.
“This is the story of the world's longest-running animated TV series.”
The Journey of Shunichi Yukimoro
56:05 to 1:00:01
Learn about the experiences of Shunichi Yukimoro as he navigates working on Sazai-san.
“But he found the traditional setting a rich source of funny material.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:28From the brilliant and bizarre many things to lose by our victory. The future was not so bright. Witness History. We had a designer. He brought in a fully storyboarded idea about how the Queen would arrive by jumping out of a helicopter. And we all said, that's brilliant, but it's never going to happen. Witness History at bbcworldservice.com slash witnesshistory or wherever you get your podcasts.
1:00Hello and welcome to the History Hour from the BBC World Service with me, Max Pearson. This week's People and Events as featured on Witness History, the past brought to life by those who were there. Coming up, it's 110 years since the horrors of the Battle of Gallipoli. I was on the beach the first time I was really under fire and it was just like a shower of rain coming into the sea. Also, we remember the disaster at the Hillsborough Football Stadium. It seemed to be the fans who were acting as rescuers. They were carrying them out and laying them on the pitch. I could see people trying to resuscitate people.
1:43Plus, the artist Dame Tracey Emin on her famous bed, and from Japan, the origins of the world's longest-running animated TV show.
1:56I never imagined it would run this long. Mr. Matsumoto, the first producer, was the only person who was fired up about it. It has gone on not only for 10 years, but 55 years. That's all coming up later. But first, a moment from the past which cemented in the global consciousness a very particular style of Latin American literature. In 1982, Isabel Allende published her debut novel, The House of the Spirits. It made her name, and she's now one of the most widely read Spanish language authors in history. Ben Henderson has the story, starting in Chile's capital, Santiago, in the 1940s.
2:37My grandmother and three other women, they would sit around this very heavy oak table and call the spirits. Isabel was born into a well-connected Chilean family in 1942, but her father abandoned them when she was young, so she was forced to move in with her unusual grandparents. They were experimenting also with telepathy and trying to move objects without touching them. Telepathy was funny because the Morla sisters lived in the other end of the city and they would send each other kitchen recipes telepathically. They never worked. Not because telepathy doesn't work, but because they were horrible cooks.
3:17But the legend is that my grandmother was magical. She instilled that in me, that there are many dimensions of reality, that the dead and the living walk side by side. My grandmother died very soon, and it became a house of mourning. My grandfather dressed in black from head to toe. he painted some of the furniture black and there were no flowers, no music, no radio, no parties, no desserts. It was a sad place, but he was a very good storyteller. Spooky anecdotes about ghosts, that kind of stuff. In her 20s, Isabel balanced motherhood with journalism. She presented a TV show and wrote for a feminist women's magazine, causing rows with her conservative grandfather.
4:08Her family was deeply political, and her father's cousin, the socialist Salvador Allende, was elected president in 1970. I was young. I was in love with my husband. I had two little children. That was such a fantastic time in my life. The best, I would say. But the country was hugely divided. Then, on the 11th of September 1973, everything changed. I got to my office, it was closed, and the janitor that was at the door said, go home, go home, it's a military coup. And what is what, a military coup? And so I went to a friend's house whose husband was a teacher in downtown Santiago, so I said I'm going to pick him up.
4:54And then when I got to the school, he was in one of the classrooms and he was crying. And he was listening to the radio, to the last words of Salvador Allende.
5:11And then shortly after that, we saw the bombing of the palace from the school. We saw the planes coming. We heard the noise. We saw the smoke. And so we realised that something absolutely horrible was happening. Three years ago, Dr Salvador Allende was elected president of Chile. But Allende died in the blazing ruins of the presidential palace. Chilean democracy also died. The military dictatorship led by General Augusto Pinochet rounded up those they regarded as left-wing extremists. Thousands were tortured and killed. Many tried to escape the country. Isabel allowed some of those fleeing the regime to hide in her house.
5:52After some months of this, I realised that if any of those people would have been arrested and tortured, they would have had to say where they had been hiding and I would be targeted. Then I found out I was in a list. So I lived in terror. I got a rash all over my body. I couldn't sleep. And so I left for Venezuela. Isabel's hopes for a liberal, democratic Chile were gone. Her career was over. Her family was separated by exile. She tried to build a new life in Venezuela until eventually her past caught up with her. In 1981, on January 8th, we received the news that my grandfather was dying in Chile.
6:38And I started a letter for him. The idea was to tell my grandfather that I remembered everything, that I remembered everything he had told me in his life, and that would not be forgotten. So it started with the first anecdote that I ever heard, which was the story of my great-aunt Rosa, who was my grandfather's fiancée, and she died mysteriously right before the marriage. Apparently she was poisoned. We don't know if by accident or it was a crime, but they said that she was beautiful as a mermaid. and her photograph was always on the piano at home. So I started with the story of Rosa. What began as a letter grew into a much bigger story.
7:25I worked in a school two shifts, 12 hours a day, so I would have the story evolving in my head all day. I would come home, have a shower to get rid of the school, and after dinner, lock myself in the kitchen. And while the family was watching TV, I was pouring out these anecdotes, really, these people that to me were not even connected. It was like one thing after the other, without a plan, without an idea of what I was doing or where I was going. And then somehow the story became also the story of the country. And so naturally, these pages ended in the military coup, which was the moment when my life really changed.
8:13Isabel wrote every day for a year, by which time her letter had become a 500-page epic, tracking the lives of multiple generations of the fictional Trueba family, headed by the tyrannical Esteban and his wife, Clara, who has supernatural abilities. The story is set in an unspecified country, but the descriptions, events and characters evoke Chile's 20th century history. The feeling was of joy, of freedom, of excitement. this creative force that took over me completely. My mother said at some point, I think this is a novel, and why don't we just take a chance? Let's send it to some publishers. She sent the book.
8:57We never got an answer. I never got a rejection letter, just silence. Until one day, a secretary called me, and she said, I took your manuscript home, and I really like it. but no one here is going to read it. You need an agent. I didn't know that agents existed for literature. I thought they were just for football or something. And so she gave me a name. I sent it to Carmen Balcils in Spain and in a month she called me back and she said, I'm going to have this book published. And that was the beginning of the miracle. The House of the Spirits was published in 1982. It was an international bestseller.
9:37And then I started receiving, by the end of the year, the first few cheques. And I was amazed that someone was going to pay me to write? Oh my Lord, I thought I had to pay. But not everyone was happy with the book. Although no one is mentioned by their names, some members of my family recognised themselves and they didn't like the depiction of the family. I tried to explain that it was fiction, but that didn't fly. Some of her relatives didn't speak to her for years afterwards, but the animosity softened when The House of the Spirits was turned into a film in 1993, and Isabel's family saw themselves portrayed by Hollywood icons.
10:16Jeremy Irons, Glenn Close, Vanessa Redgrave, you name them, they were all there. Did that change your family's perspective on the book somewhat? Yeah. Now it's the official story of the family. And Meryl Streep is my grandmother. The House of the Spirits has sold more than 70 million copies in over 40 different languages. It made Isabel one of the most renowned novelists in Latin America's rich literary history. It gave my life an expansion, a breath of air at a time when I was trapped. I felt that my life was going nowhere. My marriage was collapsing. My children were leaving for university. I was nobody.
10:56And then suddenly this thing happened. All that has happened in these last 40 years has been, wow, a gift from heaven.
11:14Isabel Allende was talking to Ben Henderson. So what of her impact and that of Latin American magical realism? Barbara Fernandez Maeda is originally from Chile and is now Assistant Professor in Latin American Studies at the University of Hong Kong. There is a bit of a history of magical realism in Latin American literature into which Isabel Allende has slotted herself. But how would you characterize what is magical realism? Well, magical realism is certainly linked to Latin American literature and culture. We can go to its roots, and I think it's based on two seminal novels. One is 1949, Alejo Carpentier from Cuba, it's called The Kingdom of This World.
11:55and Juan Rulfo's Pedro Páramo, which is from 1955. But in the case of Carpentier, he thought that there was a certain type of specific Latin American literature which entailed strange situations that happened actually in real life. So in the case of this novel, The Kingdom of This World, he narrates the Haitian Revolution from the perspective of a slave who can turn himself into an animal. And the story includes elements that are fantastic, but they're not necessarily fantastic for non-Europeans. For example, the extent to which voodoo practices work. So from this moment on, one could say that magical realism emerged as a more Latin American established literary style of writing.
12:44So how important would Isabel Allende's work now be in terms of spreading that way of reading and writing around the world as she made magical realism global. We could say that it was her and Gabriel Garcia Marquez. In the case of Isabel Allende, her texts became widely disseminated because the narratives were easier to follow and also that they integrated female characters in a more natural way and less based on a male gaze. These texts were also very political, but we have to say that that was weaved in a bit differently. When Isabel Allende's first work is published, we can say that the most important Latin American authors at the time were male.
13:29So she provided the literary world with female narrators first, and they were in charge of chronicling their own story. So their own perspectives became relevant. Because other novels, previous novels, were about sort of the founding fathers of Latin America or about male politicians, etc. The female voice wasn't there yet. So that's also her contribution. And also she establishes the idea of memory as a sort of intergenerational resistance device. And this is part of the House of the Spirit as it follows the matriarchal line of three generations of women. And there is also that curious subversive nature to it in that issues of politics, as you've alluded to already, can be addressed in this magical realism world.
14:16Yes, and they can be addressed from different perspectives in the sense that it's based on reality, something that actually happened like the Asian Revolution or the coup d 'etat in Chile. but the perspectives from which you learn about these things are varied and they could be the perspective of those who do not appear on history books or those who generally are not heard. And has the work of Isabel Allende influenced other Latin American authors who have followed in her footsteps? I think the House of the Spirits became a beacon for female writers because it conveyed a message that Allende couldn't have said unless she invented it, because in Chile we had a dictatorial context and she was in self-exile.
14:59It helped to further disseminate principles of liberation and expression and resistance, and from a Latin American standpoint, I think that other authors influenced by her are Nicaraguan Yoconda Belli and Mexican Laura Esquivel, and is considered another example of women's magical realism from Latin America. That's Barbara Fernandez Maeda from the University of Hong Kong. From the world of literary imagination, we turn next to the very real horrors of conflict. It's 110 years since the end of the Battle of Gallipoli, one of the worst campaigns of the First World War. In 2012, Simon Watts went through the BBC archives and listened to the memories of a soldier who was injured in that battle.
15:42It's April 25th, 1915. Rupert Westmacott, a New Zealander born in Britain, is approaching the coast of Turkey. He watches as the first wave of Australian and New Zealand troops, known as the Anzacs, land on the peninsula of Gallipoli. They were taken ashore in all sorts of luggers and fishing boats and God knows what. It was rather like being in a cinema. And I could see and hear the rifle shots. And I could see our men advancing up the hills and being mown down. The Anzacs took the beach at what was to become known as Anzac Cove, but the Turks prevented them from advancing up the surrounding hills.
16:28In later life, Westmacott, or Westie as he was nicknamed, told the BBC about the moment he was told to land. I was taken ashore in a lugger commanded by a midshipman who seemed to be a boy of 15 or 16. He took us in, taking no notice of any of the shell fire or anything. And when we got in close to the shore, we looked down in the clear water, and you could see all your friends lying on the bottom of the sea. We were all issued with a double ration of ammunition, and, of course, if you got into the sea with a rifle and a double ration of ammunition, you were so heavy you went straight to the bottom.
17:13My cousin was wounded in the first day of the landing. He was dumped on the deck of a cargo boat, and he went septic. He very nearly died. He finished up having lost an arm and a stiff leg. Simply through neglect. There were only two hospital ships for the landing. The medical part of the show was really about as bad as it could be. Anyway, I was on the beach the first time I was really under fire and it was just like a shower of rain coming into the sea. Somehow it didn't frighten me. I don't know why. In fact, by the time Westy got ashore, the attack was already a catastrophic failure. Gallipoli was an attempt by Britain and its allies to open up a second front in World War I by launching a surprise offensive against Germany's ally, the Turks.
18:14Professor Carl Bridge of King's College London. It was a naval campaign to start off with. The idea was to go through the Narrows, sail up to Constantinople, Istanbul, and hold them to ransom by saying, well, we'll blow your city to bits if you don't give in. The Turks relayed the mines, sank half the fleet, and so they decided they couldn't do that again. Then they had to take the forts. And the only way to take the forts is to run across the Gallipoli Peninsula and the Turks were watching the preparations, of course, so they didn't really have surprise. And they thought they were a superior force.
18:43These were just a Turkish rebel. Well, they weren't. The Turks were German-trained. They were the regular soldiers, many of them. And they were defending their own turf not very far from their capital. So it was a very tough ask. So the situation after the first couple of days is that the Australians and New Zealanders and the Allied forces have got a toehold in Gallipoli, but no more than that. There is a debate about whether they should withdraw straight away. and it's decided not to because they might take too many casualties in trying to withdraw, so they stay for a bit. The Turks then try to force them off.
19:14But this is the First World War and if you charge machine guns in the First World War, you lose a lot of men. So in May, the Turks attack our forces and suffer enormous casualties. So you then have a stalemate for several months. And that stalemate basically means trench warfare. What were the conditions like? Trenches are covered over because they're worried about bombs coming down so that they don't have cement, so they're covering the trenches over with logs and soil. It's an underground war. As the summer develops, dysentery comes along. Conditions were absolutely terrible, they had no water, very difficult to supply them, and the men are dropping like flies.
19:47We crawled on two Quinn's Post, which was a ghastly spot. Hot, barren, and all sorts of holes and trenches. And there was one place where there was a buried corpse. His arms came out into the trench. Our trenches at one place were literally within inches of the Turkish trench. In fact, there was one place where you could put your hand round the corner and shake hands with the Turk. We'd all liked the Turks. We considered them good fighting men and nice chaps. They were always throwing jammed tin bombs over onto us. and we were throwing jammed-in bombs back onto them and they were literally jammed-in bombs.
20:40By the summer, the two sides stopped exchanging homemade bombs across the trenches. Britain and its allies launched a huge offensive to try to end the deadlock. The New Zealanders and the Australians and the British and the Indians and the French all attack at once and try to force the Turkish line. Fail. Some horrendous attacks in that. the famous Australian attack at the Neck where the light horse dismounted, virtually annihilated, charging across an area the size of a tennis court into a funnel, essentially, a killing ground. Like the Western Front, but in some ways almost worse, because the numbers are concentrated in small places.
21:18I borrowed a watch from a chap called Jobston, I think, so I could time the attack and go over, punch it at ten o 'clock. I gave a view holler and said, Come on, boys, and went up over the top. I got to the edge of the Turkish trench and flung myself down just to crawl in, and a bomb came and fortunately for me blew my leg off. I lay there for a bit, and then I crawled back to our own trenches. I heard a voice saying, Where's Westy? Where's Westy? and this fellow came back and he said, Westy, you've got my watch, let me have it back, will you? And I said, yes. Once he had his watch back, Johnson saved Westy's life.
22:09Johnson said, I'm going to take you back down. I said, there'll be an order given that no wounded to be carried back. Balls to that, he said. And he hoisted me up on his back and he carried me down this awful track. There were these handbags all the way down, and each one he went over, my wounded leg caught on the thing and swung behind. It was still hanging on by putties and boots and all that. Anyway, I was carried down to the beach. There was a crane on board the hospital ship and a winch, and they lured this down onto the lighter and put the wounded bodies on this stretcher. An Indian stood with one foot on each end of the stretcher so that it wouldn't tip over.
23:07And fortunately for me, the next thing I remembered, I was dumped on the deck of a hospital ship because half the wounded were just dropped overboard like that. On the hospital ship, Westy had his leg amputated. To him, this actually felt like good news, because it meant he would be invalided out of Gallipoli. I laid there all day, and in the evening, a steward came round. I remember choosing a very nice dinner and an ice cream, and he said, what do you have to drink? I said, what do you mean? He said, you can order any wine you like. I said, I'd like a small bottle of champagne. and so he brought me a small bottle of champagne and I ate this dinner and thoroughly enjoyed it.
23:53It was the first decent food I'd had since leaving New Zealand. I was always looked on in the world as the luckiest man in the world because I'd got a leg off and couldn't be sent back. Britain and its allies withdrew from Gallipoli before winter set in. They'd lost at least 40 ,000 men. Westy returned to New Zealand and had a long career in the colonial service. Rupert Westmacott, Westie, spoke to the BBC in 1989. He died that same year, aged 97. His memories from the Battle of Gallipoli were brought to us by Simon Watts. It's always astonishing to hear the remarkably matter-of-fact way in which veterans of such horrors recall their exploits.
24:35Still to come, the world's longest-running animated TV series, and Dame Tracey Emin recalls the inspiration for her artwork, My Bed. I had a complete absolute breakdown and I spent four days in bed. I was asleep and semi-unconscious. When I eventually did get out of bed, went back, looked at the bedroom and couldn't believe what I could see. Before that, though, we're going back to the 1980s and the UK's worst sporting disaster. 97 fans died as a result of a crowd crush during a football match at the Hillsborough Stadium in Sheffield. Two of the people who died that day were Jenny Hicks' daughters.
25:13She's been describing to Rachel Naylor, in some distressing detail, how that day unfolded. It's the 15th of April 1989. Jenny Hicks, her husband Trevor and their daughters Sarah, aged 19, and Vicky, 15, are on their way from their home in London to Sheffield, in the north of England. They're all excited to watch their team Liverpool play Nottingham Forest in the semi-final of the FA Cup at Hillsborough Football Stadium. They set off with the girls' red Liverpool scarves flying in the breeze from the back windows. After arriving and eating their picnic lunch, the four of them walked towards the ground.
25:46We'd been allocated four tickets. Three were on the Leppings Lane standing area and one was in the seated area of the ground, in the north stand. Trevor said that he'd stand with the girls. So I gave Sarah and Vicky a hug, told them I loved them and off I went and took my seat. When I looked across at the Leppings Lane end of the ground, it seemed to me that there was people in the middle and not very many people on the side. As time went on, we were getting nearer and nearer to kick off. It was becoming really, really compacted in those middle two pens. As thousands of supporters packed into the central terrace area, the mood changed dramatically.
26:35The fans here sensed the danger looming. I could see supporters climbing over the top of the fencing. There were police officers along the side and actually they were pushing these fans back in. I think they thought that the fans were misbehaving in some way. Police gave orders for a gate to be opened to relieve pressure on some outside turnstiles. I could see people coming over now and sort of collapsing on the track at the side of the pitch. If I'm totally honest, nothing seemed to be being done about it. There were gates on the front of these fencings, but these weren't being opened to let anybody out.
27:16Within six minutes of the kick-off, a police official decided to approach the referee and ask for the game to be stopped. Once the game was stopped, I think those perimeter fence gates were opened. and it seemed to be the fans who were acting as rescuers. They were carrying them out and laying them on the pitch. I could see people trying to resuscitate people. Some were hauled out of the lethal crush by people in the stands directly above them. On the ground, young Liverpool fans hurled recriminations at policemen still standing only a few feet from them. I remember seeing one ambulance come onto the pitch.
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27:58It was surreal, and we weren't being given any information. Eventually, a tannoy message was put out. As soon as we've got rid of all the injured people safely to the hospitals, we won't be able to do that if you rush out of the ground. We'll let you know, and you can leave the stadium in safety. I think it would have been just after four-ish, an announcement came that we could now leave the ground. Vans were pouring off the Leppings Lane terraces, and they all seemed very angry and upset and distressed. They were shouting to the police, calling them murderers. Eventually, the crowds thinned, and finally nobody came.
28:42Jenny didn't know what to do. She had no way of contacting her family, no money and no car keys. She went to the nearby Hamilton Road police station, where she was advised to go to the Hillsborough Boys Club, where friends and relatives of missing people were being told to wait. There she met a social worker who suggested they go to the Northern General Hospital to look for Trevor, Vicky and Sarah. They told me that they'd had a Victoria Hicks. By had, I thought they meant that they'd had her, treated her, and she'd been discharged. That meant she was OK, so my spirits lifted. I was then asked if I'd go to this side room and wait and somebody would come and speak to me.
29:23a doctor arrived and he just said to me, are you the mother of Victoria Hicks? And before he could say any more, I said, you're going to tell me she's dead, aren't you? And he said, yes. And at that point, the bottom just started to drop out of my world.
29:49Meanwhile, Trevor arrived after having been to the Royal Hallamshire Hospital to look for Sarah. Trevor told me that he'd managed to get out of the Leppingthain Terrace onto the pitch where he'd found Sarah and Vicky lying side by side, unconscious. He tried to resuscitate both of them. He was going from one to the other. Trevor had gone in an ambulance with Vicky to the Northern General Hospital. So he'd had to leave Sarah on the pitch because there was no room for Sarah in the ambulance and that Trevor had been told that Sarah would be brought to the hospital in the next ambulance. So Trevor had had this horrendous decision and how anybody ever makes a choice like that, I will never know.
30:40In order to find Sarah, Jenny and Trevor were advised to return to the football ground where a temporary mortuary had been set up. Where we were led to a huge green base board and it had 80-odd Polaroid photographs. And I can remember saying, have all these people died? And the police officers said, it's worse than that, love. We haven't got the photographs up yet. And I can remember the first time I looked, I couldn't see her. And I just said, she's not there. and this police officer said, look again, love. And when I looked the second time, I saw her. I saw Sarah. All we wanted to do was go home.
31:28I don't remember an awful lot about the journey at all. I do remember arriving home and getting out of the car and couldn't wait to get into the house and going straight upstairs into the girls' bedroom to check if they were there. The hospital had given me a white bag with Vicky's clothing and her watch and things. And I can remember being very concerned about the grass stains on Vicky's jeans. Neither of us slept. And then I had one phone call at very early in the morning, and it was from the mother of one of Vicky's friends. Her words to me is, oh, thank goodness you're all safe. And I can remember saying to him, well, Trevor and I are.
32:14and just bluntly said, but the girls are dead. 94 fans died that day. Three more died from their injuries in the days and years that followed. In January 1990, nine months after the crush, the official report into the disaster recommended a move to All-Seater Stadia, which led to a ban on standing at football matches. This was eventually imposed on all clubs in the top two divisions in England and Wales in 1994. In 1991, the inquests returned verdicts of accidental death, which was hugely controversial. But in 2012, after an independent panel report, the High Court quashed the verdicts, and in 2014, the new Hillsborough inquests opened.
32:55In 2016, 27 years after the tragedy, they concluded that all victims had been unlawfully killed and that there was no behaviour on the part of the fans which contributed to the situation. In 2025, the Independent Office for Police Conduct report found that there were fundamental failures and concerted efforts to blame fans Little did we know on that Saturday that A, we'd be involved in one of the biggest football disasters in this country B, one of the biggest state cover-ups in this country and that it would take 24 years before we would find out the real truth about our daughter's deaths. Jenny Hicks was talking to Rachel Naylor about her memories of one of the most tragic moments in British sporting history, the Hillsborough disaster of 1989.
33:50Our next reflection on the past takes us into the world of avant-garde art. For this, we go back to 1999, when a British artist's most famous work, depicting an unmade bed, was nominated for a prestigious prize. Natasha Fernandez has been going through the archives. This is art. Well, to be honest, it's not, actually. It's an unmade bed, but a very similar one, slept in by Tracey Emin, has turned out to be the star attraction at the Tate Gallery, and she's a hot favourite for the Turner Prize tonight. That's BBC television presenter Nick Ross hosting a debate about conceptual and modern art on the day the winner of the prestigious Turner Art Prize was announced.
34:33The camera pans to him lying down on a recreation of an art installation called My Bed surrounded by empty bottles and dishevelled books on a bedside table. Like this one, it's got all sorts of dirty knickers and condoms and I'm not going to look for those. He's lifting up items he finds on the bed. Then he asks the audience if they can take the art seriously. Are they taking the mick out of us or are we, at least many of us, rather ignorant, even philistine about things like this?
35:05The original bed was created by one of that year's Turner Prize nominees, Tracy Emin. And when I was younger, people thought I made very narcissistic work and very self-indulgent and very vain work because it was like me, me, me. But now, now times have changed. people realise that making work about rape, abortion, teenage sex, all of these subjects are really important because they have to be discussed.
35:35That's Tracey Emin speaking to the BBC in 2025, roughly 25 years after she rose to fame for that Turner Prize nomination. The late 90s was an interesting time for the world of art in the UK. Yeah, the 90s. Cool Britannia. I think there was this feeling of optimism and this feeling that we were taking things in our control and doing things and that we gave ourselves our own power. Tracy was part of a group called the Young British Artists along with other artists like Damien Hirst. They were known for breaking away from and challenging traditional artistic techniques of the time and, in Tracy's case, she stood out because she came from a different background to other artists.
36:19Coming from a very dysfunctional, broken family, anybody will tell you it's incredibly different. And also if you have come from a state of poverty, through circumstances which unfold, it's really difficult. Tracy grew up in Margate, a seaside town on the southeast coast of England. When my dad came to England in 1948, and then a lot of his Cypriot friends, the Greek Cypriots, were in Margate. and they said, Enver, come to Margate. It's just like Cyprus. It's just like the Mediterranean. And so my dad come to Margate and opened a hotel and that's how we ended up in Margate. But my dad had 23 children and so I grew up only seeing my dad a couple of times a week or maybe every now and then.
37:04Tracy grew up with her twin brother and was raised by a single mum. And at 13 years old, her life changed forever. I was raped, but I was also having sex with men that were 25, 22 years old. You know, it wasn't like a fumble behind a bus shed. It wasn't like somebody grabbed my breast or something. I was having full-blown sex at the age of 13 and 14, which is with men, which is on another level. It's on another league. She immediately dropped out of school, but a year later, she had to go back. If you don't go to school, the social services will come and get you. So when I went to school, the art teachers just said, let her just sit here at the table making art.
37:47It meant that it was drummed into my mind. Tracey moved to London and took her passion for art with her.
37:56Because I never thought I could go to university because I didn't have any qualifications, but I got in. I had a full scholarship at the Royal College of Art. When she graduated in 1989, she started hanging out with the young British artists. We weren't waiting for someone to say, oh, I'll give you a show. We just opened up our own galleries, had our own shows. You know, me and Sarah Lucas had a shop, for example. Nobody was networking, for example. Everybody was just busy doing. In the mid-90s, she found herself producing autobiographical work, including a tent adorned with the names of all the people she had slept with.
38:31Everyone just thought it was about sex or some roasting prowess of how many people I'd slept with. and I said when I made that tent each name that I sewed on that tent was like carving out tombstones or gravestones. And four years later in 1999 she made the piece for which she is most famous. It's the star exhibit of the Turner Prize exhibition at London's Tate Gallery. My Bed by Tracey Emin has grabbed more headlines than her fellow nominees. It's meant to represent the artist at a moment of despair. Here she is talking about it with the Tate Gallery in a series titled Tate Shots in 2015. In 1998 I had a complete absolute breakdown and I spent four days in bed.
39:15I was asleep and semi-unconscious. When I eventually did get out of bed, had some water, went back, looked at the bedroom and couldn't believe what I could see. This absolute mess and decay of my life and then I saw the bed out of that context of this tiny tiny bedroom and I saw it in just like a big white space. I realised that I had to move the bed and everything into a gallery space. Here's what the public thought about the art of the time. This whole thing about, well I could do that, it's not about the final product, it's about the thought behind it. No, no, no, but it's not a work of art because it's in an art gallery.
39:50The fact that it's in an art gallery is because someone like you has put it there. I would like to have a definition of modern art. Because if you take that as an example of art, then, and people are paying for that, then they ought to come to my bedroom. And if you remove the sheet and take away the blonde... And in 1999, she defended it. The first thing that makes it art is because I say that it is. I mean, people have totally misunderstood this piece of work. For me, this piece of work is about all things to do with living, like waking up, feeling lonely. And also the bed, you can see it's like a place of maybe some kind of like wild sex and something really passionate has happened there something really emotional and there is my actual bed that is my actual sheets there are my actual possessions i've edited and i've contrived how i think it looks because for me it had to be aesthetic it had to look beautiful and just one month before the winner of the turner prize was announced tracy's installation had to be rescued cnn reported on the event the exhibit My Bed by Tracey Emin at the Tate Gallery, a filthy unmade bed in which Emin supposedly lay whilst contemplating suicide, had to undergo emergency repair work after two performance artists used it to stage a pillow fight.
41:05Tracey was devastated. And then, to add to it all, she lost out on the much-anticipated Turner Prize. She did sell her installation to owner of the Saatchi Art Gallery, Charles Saatchi, for about$200 ,000 a few months later. And over 25 years later, what are her thoughts on that seminal piece of work?
41:29I love it. I love the bed. Still stand by it, still defend it, still love it. I think also now it's become that. The bed itself has become a national treasure of sorts. the Tate are custodians for it at the moment. It's like a time capsule of a woman from the 90s. In 2024, Tracey Emin was awarded a damehood for her services to British art by King Charles III. She returned to Margate where she set up an art foundation for students as a way of making art more accessible to people from all backgrounds. I don't want to be remembered as just being a 1990s mediocre artist. I've got to do something. I've got to make things better and so that's all I've been doing.
42:11Natasha Fernandez, recalling the controversy generated back in 1999 by Dame Tracey Emin's art installation, My Bed. We're dipping our toes into the world of sporting history next, and for this we're going all high tech. Imagine creating a swimsuit, so good it had to be banned. That's what Jason Rance and his team did ahead of the Beijing Olympic Games in August 2008. Josephine McDermott tells us the secret stages that led to the controversial design. The world's elite swimmers describe the Speedo Laser Racer suits as out of this world. It really feels like part of your body when you put it on.
42:51It feels so streamlined through the water, you feel like you're just cutting through the water. When you put that big suit on, it's fantastic to know that I'm wearing the best suit in the world. It's sleek, it's snug and it's swimming's new secret weapon. The Speedo LZ racer sounds like a luxury supercar, but in fact it's the world's fastest swimsuit, taking the swim world by storm. It's all very dramatic. That's what you heard at the time, the promotional launch, the media's response, but we're going to delve into the secrets that led to this historic sporting creation. 20 years ago, all those involved in the Speedo Laser Racer, including the athletes, were sworn to secrecy.
43:32But now Jason can reveal what they didn't want the world to see, and it starts at a centre for elite athletes in Australia's capital, after a quick trip to a DIY store to buy some tape and black sheeting. That was the day the world's fastest swimmer, Michael Phelps, got to wear the world's fastest swimsuit for the first time. We all trundled off to the Australian Institute of Sport in Canberra and all kind of secret squirrel had all the windows of the 50 metre pool blacked out with black tarpauling so the press couldn't sneak a peek. I distinctly remember him diving in and then seeing him streamline under the water with some of the bubbles kind of coming off his body in the suit.
44:21and then popping up and had a massive smile on his face. And he just said, oh, look, this feels amazing. And I remember him saying, I feel like a rocket off the wall when he did his turns. I felt like a rocket. Right when I hit the water, I felt like a rocket. So I felt unreal. Can't wait to race in it. Athletes wearing the swimsuit would shatter 30 world records in the space of three months. But the man behind the global research and development didn't have the experience you might expect. I was probably a bit of a left field candidate because I didn't have a background in swimsuit design or, you know, as an athlete.
44:56I can swim, but I'm not a serious athlete. But yeah, I was lucky enough to get a job and ended up starting with Speedo in May 2005 up in Nottingham, which is in the East Midlands of the UK. The Olympic Games punctuate life in the swimwear industry, the occasion where new products can be launched in front of a global audience. Jason started just after the 2004 Athens Games, and Speedo's swimsuit, the FS2, hadn't exactly made a splash. The FS2, I think I can say, wasn't the same bang that the Farskina 2000 made, and so it really was a kind of race from when I started in May 2005 to have a suit fully developed and ready for the Olympics in August 2008.
45:41And in fact, the trials began at the beginning of 2008. So you really, it was a kind of sprint for two and a half years to get something completely developed by them. Time to get more people on board then. And they came from unusual places, including a space agency. Once we were clear about what it was we were trying to achieve, we then built up a great global team of partners. A key element was, can we help reduce the level of skin friction drag, so surface drag on the body of the swimmer through the design of the right kind of fabrics? We ended up working with NASA in the States. We were using their flat plate testing machine to test different kind of fabrics because the rules of aerodynamics and hydrodynamics are fairly similar.
46:29We then wanted to reduce the total drag created by the body of an athlete in a swimsuit. So much as a car firm might use a wind tunnel to do that, we wanted a, let's call it a water tunnel, what they call a water flume, and we found out that the largest water flume in the world was at that stage in Otago University in New Zealand. To reduce drag caused by seams, joins were ultrasonically welded by specialists from Portugal. In the design process, the bodies of 400 athletes around the world were scanned. So what did all these parts look like when they were together? You've basically got straps around your shoulder and then covering your full body down to your ankles.
47:10And the base colour was a very black, tightly woven fabric. Within that core, we then built in what we call an internal core all around your torso and your hips, which was engineered to help keep your hips high in the water. So we knew the hot spots where drag builds up in a swimmer's body, so chest, buttocks, thighs. and therefore if you looked at the suit you'd have what we called laser panels which is this very very thin polyurethane material akin to what you have in a swim cap which we then placed a very thin laminate on those areas of the body. So some people said it looked a little bit like a stormtrooper.
47:50FINA, the sports governing body, approved the design for use and on the 9th of August 2008 in the National Aquatic Centre or Watercube the world got to see the stormtrooper suits in action. I remember getting to Beijing and it was hugely exciting. There was an area by the pool where we could go and help the swimmers if they needed our help. We were sitting up in the stand and we were pretty near Michael Phelps. His mother was there and I think his sister. Everyone was just hugely excited. Obviously, you know, for Michael, his Olympics expectations were very high. You know, as an athlete, leaving aside the whole question of suits.
48:28So I was excited but a bit nervous because swimmers are putting their trust in us as an R &D team. When Michael Phelps won his first gold, it was amazing. Well, swimming's new speedo racer swimsuit is causing a stir worldwide after 10 world records were broken wearing the space age costume. The US's Michael Phelps made sporting history winning each one of his eight swimming events. Athletes in the swimsuit went on to win 94 % of the golds on offer and broke 23 of the 25 records set in the water cube. We had a big kind of speedo athletes party and that was great. So one of the few times literally they could let their hair down now that their races were over.
49:14I actually remember meeting Ian Thorpe, who'd been the kind of star of the 2000 Olympics, wearing an Adidas suit. So I remember kind of having increasingly lively debate It would be around the merits of the different suits, etc. On Sky News in Australia, former champion Mark Tonelli had this to add. They're supposed to be the latest technology, but some of the older consumers have been having a bit of a laugh and we're wondering when they're going to legalise flippers, as a matter of fact, because those suits make them go pretty fast. What happened after Beijing was a lot of copycat suits very quickly were brought to market.
49:49And in my view, unfortunately, the rules went out the window and it was a free-for-all. Some of the materials used, in my view, weren't compliant because there was neoprene being used, which is inherently buoyant. And so I think the genie was out of the bottle and unfortunately what should have happened was the same level of rigour should have been applied to all the new suits coming to market, instead of which the floodgates were opened. The sports governing body decided enough was enough and banned the high-tech suits. We have to consider that the industry and the developments are there, the technology is there.
50:26Our goal is to control it as much as we can. Some describe the laser racer as a form of technological doping. What was your response to that? Oh, look, I think it's a great quote. If you look at any sport, you know, tennis, Wimbledon, you know, everyone's using, I'm out of date, but everyone's using carbon graphite rackets versus, you know, 100 years ago they were using bamboo. You know, the runners used to use Dunlop volleys, and now they're using step-enhancing, carbon-fibre-enforced running shoes. So technology for me is part of a sport, but the fundamental thing is, I think, as long as the rules are clear and you play within the rules, it's not an issue.
51:07Jason Rance was talking to Josephine McDermott and recording the Speedo Laser Racer swimsuit, which was banned in 2009. In 2010, new rules were introduced for competitive swimming, which limited the fabrics that can be used and how much of the body they can cover. Finally this week, we're delving into the curious world of Japanese animation. This is the story of the world's longest-running animated TV series. Vicky Farncombe has the story.
51:42This is a theme tune for Sazai-san, one of Japan's most beloved programmes. The cartoon about a traditional family living in Tokyo premiered on Fuji TV in October 1969 and Shinichi Yokeimoro was one of the first writers.
52:07I never imagined it would run this long. I was thinking maybe one or two years. Mr. Matsumoto, the first producer, was the only person who was fired up about it. He said, we will do this for 10 years. But everybody else was like, what is he talking about? However, it has gone on not only for 10 years, but for 50, 55 years.
52:35The cartoon follows the day-to-day life of Sazai, a stay-at-home mum, and her family, husband Masuo, three-year-old Son Taro, parents Namie and Hunie, cheeky little brother Katsuo, and sweet younger sister Wakame. The names are all inspired by seafood. The show is set in a more patriarchal time. The women stay at home and do the housework, while the men go to work, then come home and get drunk.
53:13It is a period drama. The characters still use rotary telephones. They don't have things like air conditioning or microwaves, so you may have a feeling of strangeness when you watch it. What people love about it is the closeness of the family.
53:39They get most envious when they watch the scenes where everybody gets together to have a meal. We don't have such scenes in current families. People eat separately these days. But in Sazai-san, the whole family get together and sit around that little round table called Chabu Dai and eat meals in a warm atmosphere. Shonichi has since written thousands of episodes of Sazai-san, but it wasn't a smooth start.
54:15In animation, directors are often so keen to have a picture moving. They hated my first scenario, saying there is not enough motion, not enough jokes. I was told that such animation was failure. My reputation was very bad. Instead, Shonichi's stories were more like soap operas.
54:42I think if there is a movement in the mind of the characters, that makes the move, even when the picture doesn't move. So I tried my very best to make it dramatic. As the viewing rate grew little by little, the directors thought, ah, this is the right way. The TV series is based on a comic strip that ran in two newspapers from 1946 to 1975. The cartoonist Machiko Hasegawa, who died in 1992, was the first woman to pen a regular comic strip in a daily Japanese newspaper and the first in Japan to have her work adapted for television.
55:30Miss Machiko Hasegawa never got married or had children. But she had niches around her, so she had an experience of children. And I think she could better observe other people's children. You get obsessed by your own children and end up having a narrow point of view.
55:56While the original comic strip had just four panels, Shaneechi's challenge was to think up stories that would sustain seven minutes. But he found the traditional setting a rich source of funny material.
56:16The best thing about their home is that they have one-story house and there is no upstairs. They can't do things like going upstairs when they feel uncomfortable. One story house is a good design of the family because it makes everybody stay together. They cannot have secrets. In that sense, it is easy to write a story about them. In fact, continually coming up with scenarios wasn't the part Shun Ichi found hardest.
56:55nowadays everybody sends their stories by email but at that time Mr. Matsumoto was such a peculiar person he insisted the scenario should be hand delivered in person and he wanted to see the face of the person who worked on it. It was especially hard after I moved to Hachioji outside of Tokyo. If I drove, I could be caught up in a traffic jam. Despite the congestion, Shonichi loved working on the programme. So he was devastated when in 1985, he was forced to quit.
57:43Mr. Matsumoto got in a situation where he had to leave, and they decided that all the writers should go to. There were three writers working at that time, so all three of us were replaced at once. But the show suffered without its original writers. Because young people tend to write some little things slightly wrong. Young writers cannot write Sazai-san world because they haven't experienced such a world. For example, a younger writer put in a scene showing Sazai asking her husband to pick up clothes from a dry cleaner. That didn't work because in the 1960s it would have been totally unacceptable for a family with two full-time housewives, Sazai and her mum, to ask a man to do such a task.
58:37After 10 years away, Shonichi was invited back on the show.
58:48It was like coming home, because I knew everyone. The director, the staff who drew the pictures, the people I worked with in the old days. However, I had mixed feelings. I sensed it wasn't going to last long.
59:19Midori Keito, who voices Sazai, is the only original cast member.
59:27This is a program which has run for such a long time. so there are people, either staff or voice actors, who have passed away. The saddest thing is that we lose those talented people one by one. That is the fate of the long-running program.
59:55Shunichi Yukimoro, one of the first writers on the Japanese animated TV show Sazai-san. And that's it for this edition of the History Hour. We'll be back with more first-hand stories of past events from around the world next week. Until then, this is Max Pearson from all of us here. Thanks for listening. Goodbye. From the pioneers. We weren't going to ask mission. We're just going to do it. And the celebrations. You feel you have, you win. I feel it. I was first. I was first. We were so proud of ourselves and Cameron was proud of us too. I still cannot believe it. It was such an amazing feeling.
1:00:34It was incredible. To the humiliations. I did cry most of the half. Oh man, I'm failing. I'm failing this sport that I love. Sporting Witness takes you to the events that have shaped the sports world through the eyes of the people who were there. It's not just about the sport. It's about all the other things that people with disabilities learn from each other. For nine minutes, you become a fan in the stands as we take you back in time to examine memorable moments from all over the world. There's a magic during those moments that carries your soul. We were truly blessed to be a part of history.
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Max Pearson presents a collection of the week's Witness History interviews from the BBC World Service. This programme contains distressing details.
Our guest is Bárbara Fernández Melleda, Assistant Professor in Latin American Studies at the University of Hong Kong.
We start with Chilean author Isabel Allende on her debut novel, The House of the Spirits, in 1982 which reflects Chile’s 20th century history.
Then, we hear the memories of a soldier injured in the Battle of Gallipoli.
The recollections of a mother who lost both her daughters in a crowd crush at Hillsborough stadium in 1989 - the UK's worst sporting disaster.
How a British artist's unmade bed was nominated for a prestigious art prize in 1999.
Next the swimsuit made ahead of the Beijing Olympic games in 2008 that was so good it had to be banned.
Finally, we learn about the world's longest running animated TV series that began in 1969.
Contributors:
Isabel Allende - a Chilean author.
Rupert Westmacott - a soldier (from archive).
Jenni Hicks - a mother who lost her two daughters in the Hillsborough tragedy.
Dame Tracey Emin - an artist.
Jason Rance - former head of Speedo's global research and development team.
Sunishi Yukimuro - an animated cartoon writer.
(Image: Chilean author Isabel Allende. Credit: Felipe Amilibia/AFP via Getty Images)
