Kyle Forgeard Breaks Silence on SteveWillDoIt Controversy, NELK, & The Truth About Happy Dad

14:16Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:i mean that was a 20 or 40 million dollar acquisition this would be in like the hopefully billion right have you been approached at all to sell happy dad not to sell no we haven't

14:26Kyle Forgeard:even like thought about positioning ourselves to sell yet we're just we're growing so much we're the only i think us and white claw are the only seltzers that are still growing every other seltzer is declining white claw is growing in like single digits and we're growing in like double digits every year it's been four years so we're just steady growing growing growing our distribution

14:46Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:is growing every year are you taking profits from this or you just reinvesting i haven't seen i haven't taken a penny from happy dad really not one single penny has it been tempting to take

14:55Kyle Forgeard:any money from happy dad no because we have much bigger goals than that you know i could take a salary from happy dad but i'm in this for the long term like this is like this is my baby like even to see where it's been now it's been four years it's blown my my wildest dreams to see where it's at so we're in this for the long term yeah so out of one can what can you sell one can for and then how much profit do you get um the profits about like 12 when it's all in yeah i mean but we don't control the the prices of the cans that's up to the store right each store so sometimes we'll get flack and they'll be like why are you selling a 12 pack for 40 dollars and we're like yo that's up to the store like we can't tell the store what to sell their price for so what we do is we make it we make it through a brewery and then in each state you have to have a distributor a different distributor because all the laws are super old it's all like laws from prohibition so it's super old school laws so we don't even sell directly to the store so we go to we sell to a distributor in a state and then that distributor sells to the store what's the

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16:42Kyle Forgeard:beverage right isn't there like you can't associate it with health and wellness in any way obviously you can't say alcohol is healthy so i think it's it's definitely like macros wise compare if you compare it to a beer i mean a corona has 13 grams of carbs this is two grams of carbs so but obviously you can't say it's healthy in any way you can't associate it with like can't like drink it in the gym obviously drinking and driving that's obvious um the rule i hate the most is you can't you cannot on another alcohol product so you'll have to bleep this but i can't say like i can't like i can't that or i didn't realize how we've never really said like yeah there's been no nelt campaign like ways is that but but that's a rule but how can mr beast

17:30Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:say that because it's alcohol it's only alcohol only alcohol so is this something that all of the alcoholic companies got together. It's like, yo, let's just shake hands. Let's not shit talk each other.

17:38Kyle Forgeard:I don't know. Yeah, it's such old school laws. So that's one thing that like, oh, I wish we could, because you know, Nelk, we would do that so well. Like even Steve, imagine him on other brands and stuff like that too. But that's, so that's one interesting rule too.

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19:34Kyle Forgeard:I think like all in for Nelk. Like Nelk as a whole, around f***ing percent. That's phenomenal. On a product like this now is like, I think that's a f***ing historic deal. How much did you guys raise? We didn't raise anything at the beginning. Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was self-funded. So this s*** put up a little bit for production. So Nelk didn't have to put in anything too. So we got that. You don't get equity usually without putting in money. Yeah. And also like, yeah, so I kind of negotiated my deal first. And then like Jesse and Steve's deal was similar too. And it's like, there's no vested equity.

20:11Kyle Forgeard:There's no like, there was like talks of phantom equity too, where it's like, but like, we all own this. Like it's ours. It's, it's a good. Yeah. And we have incredible partners. John and Sam are like, I love John is on it. John's awesome. Yeah. He's a genius. And then Sam's just a complete robot where he's like, he's the hardest worker. He inspires me with like his work.

20:33Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:I'm curious, who's the smartest business person that you've met or been around? Like, who do you go to for advice?

20:39Kyle Forgeard:I go to John a lot. John and Sam. They're very, I've learned a lot from them too. And what about besides them? Dana. Dana White, for sure. Yeah. He's someone that I've learned. I've looked up to him my whole life too. He's always been one of my business inspirations. but um yeah he's just a guy that like he never quits he never takes no for an answer so i think that's one thing i try to follow in his footsteps he doesn't you know back himself in a corner there's always a way to something to figure it out like what he did during covid just like seeing his leadership through an era like that so him but yeah john john and sam definitely have learned a lot from them can you say what the current valuation of happy dad is and like what you would sell it for in a dream scenario when you exit you get a you get a big like you get a big cash bag and then you get to work i'd say you get to work for the company for x amount of years usually consult them do whatever you need to do and then also we're not just going to sell to a company that's going to drive it into the ground like you're going to partner with a company that's going to take your product and like you know we're only in two countries yeah we're in the U.S.

21:47Kyle Forgeard:and Canada and like we should be in Australia I just went to Australia like we have as much fans in Australia as we have in like Canada we went to Ireland we get sworn like we could be everywhere so if we ever exit it's going to be with a company that's also going to take happy dad see our

22:01Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:vision and help take it to the next level what would you say were the three most pivotal business decisions you've made in your career like what changed your business the most our original merch

22:12Kyle Forgeard:business was pretty historic i don't think anyone's really ever no that was so good it was crazy but that was kind of that was a blessing in disguise was because we were just we just became the underdogs so i think to answer that i was just being authentic probably that was number one was we started in that prank era where i don't know if you remember you remember how many

22:32Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:pranksters are i used to watch them all i love them yeah vitale yeah shout out romay shout out If you want to come on the podcast, we want you on the podcast. Same as Fousey. He's out of jail, too. Roman Atwood.

22:43Kyle Forgeard:Roman Atwood. Oh, my gosh. Who else was there? Yeah, Roman Atwood. So many people. But there was that typical prank format where it was just like intro, prank, outro. And we were kind of following that. And then when we kind of just started being ourselves, being more authentic, like drinking in videos, like just making jokes that we would make off camera, being ourselves. That's when people really related to us. It was that and the pranks, the perfect harmony. and through that authenticity i guess that's what us a little bit because youtube demonetized us right they did you guys know that i remember your google video the google video i watched it as soon

23:17Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:as you posted it because i was big into pranks that's how i got into youtube was watching prank

23:21Kyle Forgeard:videos yeah so that does that i mean anytime you mess with your boss it's not a good idea right so we pretty much mess with our boss we got demonetized yeah we had to private all our videos Yeah, I remember that. Because we were on two strikes. So we thought they were going to delete our channel. So we just privated all our videos. Explain this Google video for anyone who hasn't seen it. So yeah, we got big off doing fake employee pranks. So we've done, we've worked at, I've had many jobs. I've pretty much worked at every single business throughout doing pranks. Target, Walmart. Apple. Apple. Apple's a legendary McDonald's.

23:53Kyle Forgeard:So we put on the uniforms and then we go in and we mess with the customers and the employees. So we decided to do a Google one. a fan hit us up and said he had like a badge for google and we're like this is too good like an office prank so we got the badge and we snuck in and then we pretended to like work at google and we were messing people messing with people in the cubicles and then yeah google did not like it

24:17Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:they did not did they reach out to you did anyone no they didn't reach out we're you know an mcn

24:22Kyle Forgeard:what an mc yes yeah so we were with an mcn they dropped us obviously because they were probably and then no but google didn't reach out i think they were they just gave us a strike okay but we were sitting on two three strikes your channel's dead so we privated all our videos for like months and to avoid like because we thought they were just after us yeah we're done yeah so but that again so that to answer your question what that was pivotal being authentic because that turned us into the underdogs and we're we didn't weren't making money off youtube so me and jesse kind of you know we had to get together and we said yo we're not making money like how are we going to continue to fund the videos like what are we going to do so we kind of we saw people selling merch and we're like what if we did merch so we sold some it was like this saying in our video george hennon that like it was like this whole thing so we sold those shirts they did decent but then what we wanted to do is kind of make it more like a clothing line so we um we just made that we would kind of want to wear like we made like heavyweight hoodies and we like sampled them and sent it back and forth overseas found like a sick blank that we liked put like the little end logo stitched on it and then i think we sold like 2 000 of those in like set like 30 seconds really like crazy and we're just like holy and at that time you know now we have like sponsors and like you know we have a prize picks we got moon pay but at that time like we were looking directly into the camera being completely honest with our fans and saying like guys we don't make money off youtube the only revenue source we have is is merch so it became this connection with our fan base that was like you guys are funding these videos through buying merch there was literally no other revenue source how much money were you making on youtube at the time when we got demonetized yeah i think what was your income so we started make we like back in the day we would make like 5k a month and then that stopped and then we're making zero completely zero we had one i'm talking one revenue source How many subscribers did you have at the time?

26:20Kyle Forgeard:Millions. How did you live? Well, we were making merch money. Yeah. So you immediately pivoted to merch. Like, yeah, it was a bit of a transition. I think we like, you know, we were also working at the time. I was working at a golf course for five years. So like I would work at the golf course, save up as much money as I could. Jesse was working at, I think, like a chicken wing, like a restaurant or something like that. And like we'd go to L.A. and we didn't have visas because we're both Canadians. So we'd stay for a bit, go back home, work, work, work, save up again, go back, back and forth. We did that for years.

26:51Kyle Forgeard:And then, yeah, merch started taking off. And yeah, I mean, our biggest merch drop was, it was in Europe. We had just filmed a wine tour video. And yeah, we had 300 ,000 people on our website at one time.

27:07Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Isn't that when the website crashed?

27:10Kyle Forgeard:Yeah, it would crash sometimes and stuff too. Yeah, it would always like crash. But, bro, we would get addicted and it was so fun. It was always like merch drop day. We'd have like a huge party and stuff like that. And like we would have our computers out and we'd have it all on the screen. And yeah, we would look at the live viewers on the website. And like, bro, 300 ,000. Like Shopify was telling us like, yo, you guys are like second to Kylie Jenner. And like that dropped to 33 million in gross.

27:35Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:How come you were able to do that and so many other people just fail?

27:38Kyle Forgeard:Dude, I think it was just, I think Nelk is something that comes around like once in like a, decade or like it's just what we had was was special it really was i don't even think we realized what it was at the time like to be able to get 300 000 people on an e-commerce website like that's i heard of now why do you say that's what we had because isn't nelk still going yeah we're still going i just think that i mean like i said that was our only revenue source right yeah so i think fans were supporting us in that specific venture for that reason too is because that was our only way of making money like i could have been on a lie detector test i'm like i'm looking at the camera and i'm telling the fans like this is you guys are making this possible yeah like there was no side money coming in there was no prize picks there was no rubet there was no this was it it was us and our fans they were funding it and we were traveling all over the world making videos uploading them shooting editing and uploading every single week and then And yeah, but you're also young, you know, like we're younger than I was probably like 24, 25 to pull those numbers younger.

28:46Kyle Forgeard:And then, yeah, I think I think money does money everything up, bro. I think a little bit. Well, you get more comfortable. Not just me, everyone. Yeah. Like you could ask any one of us. And it's just like, I mean, we're we're young and hungry back then a little bit, too. Right. And you're just you're on a mission. You're young. You're not thinking. like people are more down to like your people are sharing beds we're taking you know what i'm saying try sticking us try getting everyone in a van now and we're flying private yeah it's just money

29:20Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:shit up no is it the money though or is that just getting older i think it's both i think it's both i think it's both yeah getting older for sure like yeah like our europe trip that's some of

29:31Kyle Forgeard:my favorite milk days too like fans will tell me like bro the old milk is like so good and i'm like dude i agree like it's such a great era at what point did money start getting in the way i don't

29:42Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:know if it got a certain number amount that it you know starts becoming comfortable and you're

29:46Kyle Forgeard:less motivated hungry no because one thing people don't really know too is like even though those merch numbers were like so high believe it or not money in my like specific pocket personally and like jesse's as well because we were the two owners of nelk right steve wasn't really like he wasn't an owner of nelk he was getting paid out in cash from merch so the amount of money that me and jet as an owner sometimes you take less cash right because you own the equity so you can ask jesse too i mean we weren't personally making a lot off the merch operation because it was money in and then we had to pay out like a lot of people and then it was also when we're traveling in europe you're bringing 15 people you're getting an airbnb every single week you're you know you're spending on flights videos like that money goes quick maybe some people are suing us for pranks behind the scenes that we've like some people during pranks so everything added up um so even the merch business as much when it's all said and done like gross and then minus profit for like goods shipping everything like that personally in my bank account i never really got too rich off

30:57Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:merch when did you make your first million dollars like actually in your bank to you personally

31:05Kyle Forgeard:i know this is bad but i can't really recall i don't it wasn't like a moment for me really no i don't know why there was never like a moment where i was looking and i'm like i have a million dollars i don't i don't know if that sounds stupid but i don't know i was more just caught up in like i really just love making content too like i really do so i think i was more just focused on and i'm such a long-term thinker i know where everything could go so i don't know if i really got caught up in my first meal but it must have been around like 25 or something yeah what's the most you've made in 24 hours i mean that those drops for sure it was the drops yeah yeah merch drops for sure like are we talking like 10 million dollars 20 million dollars profit i mean those we've done several drops i think two drops did 30 million gross two different drops yeah those are just wild numbers let's say 40 profit those are 40 profit like on directly like gross minus expenses of clothing and then no payroll expenses yet don't factor in that don't factor in that and don't factor in traveling expenses and any other that comes with filming

32:12Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:no yeah what are you what are you doing with the money are you investing it are you putting it

32:16Kyle Forgeard:decide i got a business i got a business manager that i just talk to a lot and communicate with and he just diversifies like my portfolio and stuff like that john i've done some investing with john um i was early in or i invested in x too when elon bought it um that's doing good now yeah yeah i was about to say the valuation of that has got to be crazy yeah i think it's like he called me the other day and said it's like 6x or something like that but who called you john okay yeah so he got me in on the x investment when elon bought it too i put up some money towards that so i'll do different stuff like that too and then but i do like having cash on hand too to start my own businesses too yeah because like if i have an idea um like to do something quick

33:02Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:or something like that yeah what sort of investment opportunities do you get access to because you're you?

33:09Kyle Forgeard:A good amount. Yeah, John's kind of my guy for that, where he'll call me and be like, you know, what do you think about this? Do you want to invest in stuff like this? And I'll just kind of take it. I'll consult with my business manager too and just like take it play by play. What's the weirdest investment you've done? I don't think I have a weird one. No, I'm not. I'm pretty picky, to be honest. Yeah. I won't just like throw money into anything. so then what's your best investment and what's your worst investment um i think the x one was was pretty good that could be your best investment yeah probably what about your worst one worst one i don't think i have a worst one honestly are you kidding me just everything you're telling me a

33:51Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:huge that you don't have a worse investment and i have several i'm not like a huge like most of jack's investments are bad that's unbelievable what's your worst one i don't even know i mean I took an account from like 20K to 75K down to two one time. Granted, losing 75K. At the time, that was a lot. See, the investing is something I need to get better with too,

34:13Kyle Forgeard:but I just have a business manager that I trust him a lot, and he'll kind of just talk me through, and he'll just diversify my and safe stuff. And that's kind of how I go about investing, and it's just like 10 % to 15 % return, stocks and bonds, treasuries. my bad investments

34:31Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:granted they're still they're kind of just my fun money so let it be known okay I'm not a bad investor I'm a very disciplined investor yeah what are you spending your money on because I see these stories of like flying private jets and like driving these crazy cars

34:44Kyle Forgeard:jets are the stupidest thing you could spend money on for sure so why are you

34:47Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:getting private jets

34:48Kyle Forgeard:because I'll only get a jet I'll fly commercial a lot too but um I'll fly a jet when it's like an emergency when it's like worth my time to really be somewhere like let's say a podcast happens sometimes it'll be like in like somewhere where it might take like two connections to get somewhere and i can't get there on time and like maybe i have to do another podcast the next day um i'll only do it when it's like worth my time you know what i'm saying yeah but it does add up yeah my business manager called me the other day and he's like bro this pj this pj budget's uh we got to bring this down this how much was the budget uh probably like 600 ,000.

35:28Kyle Forgeard:$600 ,000 on private jets? Yeah. It could be worse. It could be worse. Here's the thing. Listen, I haven't bought my own jet yet.

35:35Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:I was about to say. I saw Steve do it. Steve has his own.

35:38Kyle Forgeard:Just had his jets. You got to get a pilot. You got to pay for the gas. So I'm like, it's really only, it's one I just really need to be somewhere that's beneficial for my business too. You know what I'm saying? Because a commercial flight, like, let's say it's like, I get a call and it's like, yo, you got to be here tomorrow at like 8 a.m. And there's no flex. It's like, all right, I'm going to pull trigger on that and do it. And it's kind of just part of it.

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38:52He coin flipped$2 million with Togi.

38:55Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Insane. He's like, no. I'm like, do you want me to spoil it?

38:57Kyle Forgeard:I'm like, no, watch the video. I'm just like, dude, I mean, yeah, even the way they gamble, like they're full. Like him and Dana are like, bro, I get mad when I lose money. Like I get in a bad mood. Like if I gamble and I lose like a hundred thousand, like I'm pissed. Like I'm like, I'm in a bad mood. Like don't talk to me. So those guys will go down millions too. And it's like, I don't know how they can stomach that. But that's Dana.

39:21Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:So that makes sense.

39:22Kyle Forgeard:But yeah, I know Steve's too. I don't, I really don't. He's just different, bro. I mean, he's always been different. So he's just, I mean, he's a little mad with gambling for sure. Like he's just, he's just different.

39:34Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:It just makes me think his threshold for money is just so high that you could blow two million like that. It's like, whatever.

39:42Kyle Forgeard:Yeah, I think he just really he's always he's he's just one that always wants to make good content, too. So I think we may think in a similar fashion where he kind of just like he's like, I don't care what I'm like losing or spending right now, because I know he just thinks like if I make good videos, it's all going to work out, too. which is kind of like i think in a similar way i think we just go about it differently yeah but yeah i think he just cares about his content a lot too so he's willing to spend whatever the

40:11Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:he spends on it you know i would tend to agree with that yeah that uh you know he could spend a lot of money but my gosh these videos are just i i've not seen anything like it on youtube i'll

40:21Kyle Forgeard:see his stories and i'm just like bro like he's just a madman like the corinna cop what is he doing what is he doing but i i find it i i even said too it's like it is entertaining like i've told like i mean i've told him last time i saw him i was like oh it's some of your best content like

40:40Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:it's because it's entertaining it's but it's so nuts it's triggering though to me it seems like a foozy situation where it's like it's kind of like watching a mess happen right you know what i mean and it sucks because i desperately root for steve oh i love steve i love steve i watched for a super long time. He's an amazing person. If you're watching this, Steve, we love you. But I also like, I want the best for him. And so when I see him making decisions, especially with like, like Corinna Kopp, like buying her several cars and like, like, and she's already so rich. He offered her a lineup.

41:11Kyle Forgeard:Corinna's already so loaded herself, bro. She's got to be worth like$50 million.

41:17Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:She doesn't even need it. But it was, it was hard for me to see where he lines up these five cars, all worth 500 grand. He's like, which one do you want? And she's like, I don't want another car. It seems like a hassle for her. It's like, you got to pick a car. I don't want a car. She has no space to store the car. It's like a 16-car garage is already filled up with Steve's other offerings. When you think of registration, filling it up, taking it in from, it's more work for her now to take this car. And I'm thinking, I want one of the cars. I'd take the car.

41:44Kyle Forgeard:It's insane. I know. And like I said, Karina doesn't even need it because she's one of the richest. She's a baller herself, right?

41:50Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Yeah. Does part of you not want to be like, hey, like, because you and Steve are friends, like, be like, hey, man, let's dial it back in. like let's think long term for a second because his goal now is to get in as much debt as possible yeah and so wouldn't part of you be like all right like don't you don't want to think about

42:04Kyle Forgeard:the future a little bit yeah i mean me and steve have had like we've had a long relationship obviously like what i mean when i met when did i meet steve i uh one of my buddies showed me who still works for us one other one of my buddies from back home uh he runs like our socials and stuff he sent me one of steve's videos and it was like steve drinking on a like a driveway like chugging a jack daniels bottle i think he had a thousand followers and i was like what the like who the is this kid i've never seen anything like this so then i think we reached out to him and i like had sent him some rona season shirts and we were still figuring out ourselves but i think we were at like a million two million subscribers it's when we were launching merch so i was like throwing them some dough to like yo wear this in a video i'll give you like a thousand bucks or something so that's how we like started our relationship and then i think me nino and jesse were in uh orlando one time and that's where steve's from ovito so i hit him up and i was like yo want to come like hang out and we'll like go to the bar or something and like yeah i went to his house in ovito and like he had like an adopted pitbull and like he was living with three or four roommates like just like typical like like bongs everywhere and stuff like that i met his mom i think too and like we went to the bar his local bar the knight's library shout out the knight's library and he just got like like we just got up like steve got blacked out too he put on like a batman shirt when he was drunk and then like he texted me the next day and he's like bro i don't know what happened like i woke up and like i woke up in a batman shirt i'm like dude you put that on yourself so he's just always like been like he's just a complete like just funny guy like he's always just been like that but yeah I kind of used to like manage him more like obviously like when I met him my promise to him was when I saw who he really was like because I saw the drinking and stuff but when I met him and I like fell in love with his personality I felt like you know we were at two million subscribers I kind of had figured out the game and like my promise to Steve was really just like bro like if you trust me like I feel like I can help make you like rich and like successful and I think I see something in you and I think I can help guide you and like make you successful.

44:19Kyle Forgeard:And I think that was like our mission. And I feel like that's what we did. But yeah, I don't really like, I think along the way, it's not like I manage him anymore. Like I used to like help him with every single move, like every move he made. It was like consulted by me. Like, obviously, when we launched his channel, we got it to a million subscribers. I remember. Well, he beat it now, though. He beat it now. What did he get? It was so fast. I think in like a day or two. No, I think it was. Steve's like, he's one of the funniest guys. Like, you know what I'm saying? But his audience stuck around.

44:54Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Even after his channel was taken down, his audience stuck around and followed and waited. But he's just a guy.

44:59Kyle Forgeard:He's just a guy that's like, he's just going to do what he's going to do whatever the he wants. You know what I'm saying? So I think he has a lot of other people in his ear now too, where it's like, everyone wants a piece of him. You know what I'm saying? He's Steve will do it. He's, he's the man. So I always, the one thing I can never do with Steve is not be honest with him. And like, that's just who I am, bro. Like when people ask me for advice, like I'm not a person that can be really any type of yes man or like beat around the bush or like tell someone what they want to hear. and like yeah whenever steve does ask me for advice i'll tell him straight up like what i think and like if that's offensive or if that's something he doesn't want to hear and that goes for steiny yeah anybody anybody that asks me for advice like i'm gonna be blunt and i'm gonna be honest and i'm gonna tell you what i actually think so but yeah but now i mean me and steve are cool it's not like we like the internet likes to make it some like we have beef or something like that like i'll see him tonight that's what yeah so i've seen a lot of the comments but no it's like yeah i think right now we're just like we're just kind of on two different paths right now and i think steve's like i don't know he's just doing he's doing his thing and he's crushing his youtube and like i'm i'm loving his content i'm watching like every video his editors i know his editor alex is killing the edits too and like i'm happy for him i think we're just on like two different paths at the moment i don't know and i'm trying to figure out what i want to do with content and YouTube too because I'm getting older I'm 31 like I'm trying to figure out like how does this old milk Kyle kind of continue and what's my next chapter you know because I'm not really drinking and partying like I used to too so I'm kind of figuring out my own too but but yeah do you ever

46:47Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:offer advice to someone when they don't ask if you see something or do you just wait and if they come

46:53Kyle Forgeard:do you you help both both but you can only really at a certain point someone's just not going to listen to you right sure like there's not much you could do like at a certain point it's kind of like people are going to do what they want to do right everyone's their own person and all i can do is but i'm always there for any of the boys too yeah and like no i think me and steve like i'm kind of like just trying to focus on like you know my fitness my mental health always i'm putting that above everything too because i realized like there's been certain moments where i've kind of i'll squiggle down a dark road at a road that i don't really want to be going down and like i feel like the gym and fitness always drags me in the right direction that's one thing me and steve bonded over originally he was like one of the persons that really got me into the gym yoked that's one thing we bonded over the most when we first started hanging out was steve was like he still is he's shredded but he was really into the gym and he would like get get on my like every day we were hitting like two a days we would do like the insanity uh workout videos in the backyard and he was someone that i would say that really got me into fitness and got me on my fitness journey too so i think it's like even with like jesse too like oh he's like really in shape yeah it's cool to see that progress even me and jesse like we had a little and it's not like it's just me or it's not like it's just him it's like it's kind of like friends are always going to have little back and forths a little bit and then you add this high stakes business and different people in everyone's ear telling them different things but now it's like me and jesse are now tighter like just as tight as we ever were like so i think me and steve are gonna be like that too where it's we're always gonna be boys and i'm always i'm always there for him yeah yeah you should mention the necklace oh oh yes what

48:41Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:that is fantastic jack thank you we had a podcast with liver king oh my god what happened to him Yeah. Well, this was two years ago. Yeah. Does he still have Liver Queen or no?

48:52Kyle Forgeard:Or did she leave his last thing? I think the Queen and the King are still together.

48:56Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:They're still together?

48:57Kyle Forgeard:Probably. Liver Queen seems loyal.

48:59Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Yeah. I think, you know, they have kids and everything. They have Liver Ranch. What the f*** happened? Yeah. Well, here's a crazy story for you. Honestly, this is crazy. Yeah. Is that Steve Will Do It gave you a chain, a diamond chain. Right. On a podcast, you gave that to Liver King. Dumb move. Okay, so there's my dumbest investment.

49:18Kyle Forgeard:Does that count?

49:19Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Well, it continues. That's the dumbest thing I've ever done. We did a podcast with Liver King. He takes off the necklace and gives it to me. And did you give it to someone? I gave it back to Steve. Oh, okay, good. So Steve has the chain now. Steve has the chain now. Okay, thank God. So I had that chain, and I'm going to be honest, I thought it was cursed. It must be. To be completely honest with you, because... Liver King had his whole controversy shortly after getting that chain. He gave it to me. I went through some. I've never worn the thing. I think it was cursed. And I felt the only way to break that cycle was to give it back to Steve.

50:01Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:And now look at Steve. And we broke the cycle and Steve's back on YouTube. No, I kid you not. I've been telling Jack this, that I think that thing is cursed. I want nothing to do with it. And I brought it back to Steve. And now he's back on YouTube. He's doing great. That's hilarious. But that chain, I think, was some bad juju on it. I don't know what happened.

50:18Kyle Forgeard:I believe that. I believe that. That's a funny story. Yeah.

50:22Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:And it's funny, too. I got an offer from Jack Doherty to buy that chain. He offered me$60 ,000 for it. And I said no.

50:27Kyle Forgeard:Specifically because it was that?

50:29Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:No, because the chain was probably worth$90 ,000. And he's like, dude, I'll buy it for$60 ,000 right now. And I'm like. No. Really? That's what Liver King told me. Now, he could be exaggerating. Liver King said it was a six-figure necklace. You still believe Liver King? Probably not. He said it was a six-figure necklace. I was like, he said those are all natural. No, it's a tennis chain.

50:47Kyle Forgeard:That's like 10-15.

50:48Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:10-15? Yeah. Dude, you should have sold it for 60. What Liver King said, because Graham is a very frugal person, like a little scarcity mindset, right? Liver King gave him the necklace under the condition that Graham would have to give away the necklace. Okay, so no, no, no, no. It was worth more because I went back through Steve's videos. Steve posted a video, getting the chain for you. And he went to that, I don't know if it was timepiece trading or one of those. and I think he paid 70 or 80 grand for that. And that's how I kind of came up with the price because I remember that's what he was charged and he bought two of them.

51:23Kyle Forgeard:I'd have to see the chain again, but yeah. Steve probably has it. Maybe. Yeah. I'm also curious,

51:29Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:what was it like drinking with Elon Musk?

51:31Kyle Forgeard:It was fun, bro. I mean, that was a crazy podcast how that came about. I think John had hit up Elon and then Elon said he was down. and then yeah that was a crazy story too i think so we land in austin and john gets a call from elon and says yo who's this guy because steve was going to be on that pod too so he's like yo who's this guy steve that's like my why is my security saying he's like a threat and and john's like we're all like what are you talking about and then they're like yeah like he's blown up he's like shot my mannequin with a gun like steve did a video where he blew up a tesla i think and like said elon or something so i guess elon's security team flagged it so then our podcast team was at elon's house setting up and he pulled the plug elon pulled the plug yeah he's like not like his security's like nah and we're like what the so then steve was kind of like yo like i'll sit out like my bad blah blah blah and then but we we elon still wasn't down we just so we just waited around in texas for like 72 hours we just stayed at a hotel and we just took the chance and like john just kept texting him and like i was trying to tell john like we're just trying to like tell him like bro like we got to do this and then eventually elon just showed up and yeah he stayed for four hours i think he crushed like eight happy dads and why do you think he agreed to do that why did he do the pod yeah it's because i love the podcast he's smart yeah i mean it just hits a different audience i mean i think that interviews it might be the second most elon interview besides joe rogan i think so yeah so he's smart he's tapped these guys that are big you think they're not tapped in but they're the most tapped in right like look at someone like drake or like yeah you think just because they're like really big that they're not seeing the same as you but they're tapped in as me and you if not more of all the people you've spoken to does elon musk command a room the most no trump so elon musk is not the most intimidating no because elon's a little more like he's got his quirks to him a little bit right like he's more like i don't know he's more like interesting trump commands a room what was that like like what was the security like i'm curious like the aura as the as the kids would say you're sitting Yeah, no, like Elon's the man, obviously, too.

53:56Kyle Forgeard:But Trump's just like, I mean, he's always been like probably super charismatic Trump, right? Like, I mean, when he walks in a room, like, it's just, you know, it's Trump, right? How much of that is funny as fuck?

54:07Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Yeah.

54:07Kyle Forgeard:Like, you know, he'll be walking in, he'll chirp like three people on the way in, and then he'll like compliment you, call you good looking, blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, he's got a presence to him for sure. What was the security screening like on that? secret service they always they ask you like days in advance like who's coming what's your equipment like they gotta go through yeah all your all your camera stuff in advance i'm sure they're like listening to your phones maybe before and stuff yeah and then i mean the

54:39Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:typical pat downs and stuff like that but yeah i remember youtube took down your trump video right

54:46Kyle Forgeard:yeah isn't it crazy how things yeah yeah i've told this story before but yeah we did the pod uh dana obviously set it up um trump even says himself he says he has no idea who the we were and that was the first podcast trump ever did so like now how many has he been on right in the election he went on everyone's pod but yeah he was this was the first party ever did was the fulsome podcast and dana called him and said yo i think you should do this and trump just trust dana so much so he's like if dana tells me it's something i should do i'm gonna do it and he's like i don't know who the hell the nelk boys are but yeah i got like 12 million views in 12 hours youtube deletes it which obviously it always works in your favor because then trump's on his

55:26Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:uh truth social tweeting about he's on fox news even like nelk boys blah blah and of course he

55:32Kyle Forgeard:says like i was their biggest rated show like he's bragging it's funny and then he's at his rallies like saying nelk boys and stuff um so after that we kind of stayed in touch with him and his team and like you know we even gave them some consulting and some help during the elections like do this podcast do this podcast you know maybe like link with this person and stuff like that too so we tried to offer them all the advice that we kind of knew as well too since we're like

55:59Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:super tapped in dude to me i thought that election was won on social media oh and i thought the other side completely fumbled the bag when trump was willing to do all these podcasts same with jd doing the podcast. And I think the next election...

56:13Kyle Forgeard:Well, it's because I guess Kamala just wasn't capable, right?

56:15Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Well, she did a 60 minutes. Yeah, yeah. But that was also like 11 minutes. Yeah. I think it got cut down. It was like a seven-minute podcast. It was heavily edited. Yeah. It was bad.

56:24Kyle Forgeard:If Kamala did, like she turned down Joe Rogan, which was like so stupid of her to do. Yeah. But I do think if she even went on Joe Rogan, she would have looked like an idiot. You know what I'm saying? Like she just couldn't, she can't hang in those environments. So I think that was just transparent to people. like trump can go in any environment and at least answer questions he's funny you know yeah he's funny as him and he was on that was one of my favorite you should see him off camera he's funny as hell really yeah he's one of the boys off camera like when we were flying on his plane yeah because we went on trump i've been on i've been on air force one too in 2020 i think i'm one of the only canadians to been on air force one and then we went on trump force one and yeah just like on the way there he's just like college football's on we're like shooting the like

57:12Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:he's just he's one of the boys for sure do you have any opinions on his beef with canada or

57:20Kyle Forgeard:trying to get canada yeah that's me hard the canadians are pissed at me now i mean that was not part of his campaign at all the whole canada and all that so um yeah that's a sticky situation i just think canada was uh a long time before trump came along i mean trudeau up canada so i i don't a lot of people agree with me in canada too i think to blame trump for canada is like stupid when like trudeau has been up canada for 10 years i think you know i think we got to blame him a lot more than trump i love being from canada but i also love visiting the united states i i do think it's i've always thought it was stupid like because i used to have to get a visa to I worked five years to get a visa just to be able to come into the states so like I mean I think it would be easier if Canadians could come to the states easier do you know how many people like aspiring business people hit me up from like Toronto and they're like bro like how can I get a visa like it's so hard to like I want to move to the states I want to because like you can live in Canada and you can start there but if you really want to make it as an entertainer like you got to spend some time in LA you got to do your rounds in the US so theoretically I mean if it was easier to for canadians to come to the u.s too i think a lot of people wouldn't

58:34Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:mind that but were you ever worried about losing your visa though some of the pranks that you were pulling or like let's just say you get arrested or how many times how many times have you been

58:44Kyle Forgeard:arrested twice i've been to jail twice just for like like a night though what was that like who were you in jail with um the first time was me and jesse in toronto uh we did a prank it's you know what I've learned too it's always the stupidest harmless pranks that get you arrested the ones you never get in trouble for so that's what we've learned too and it's always like don't stay around at the scene of the crime like once you do the prank get the out right away because when you hang around there too long that's when like eventually because cops will arrest you for anything right you're you're gonna like not we've never gotten actually charged like it's beaten every case that we've gotten charged for but they will throw you in jail for a night and And then as a Canadian, every time you go to the border, they stop you and they say, you were arrested.

59:33Kyle Forgeard:Why? And they send you into secondary. It turns into a three hour thing where they question you. So it's like, yo, we don't want to get. Obviously, we're not going to get jailed for six months, but it becomes a huge hassle. So, yeah.

59:47Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:What should you have been arrested for? Like you said, the messed up ones you're not arrested for. I'm curious, like what is the one that you should have gone to jail for?

59:56Kyle Forgeard:I mean, we did one. I don't want to get myself arrested, though. It's too late. It's like three weeks, I think. Okay, cool. We did one fake gas station employee. And I was taking off the gas hose and trying to fill up people's cars. But I was just spraying it everywhere. And I was like, dude, I could have blown up a gas station. Were you spraying it on the car? No, I was spraying it on the ground. But like, that's one I always look back at and I'm like, that one was scary. I mean, the coke pranks in Mexico, that one was scary. I don't know if we could have got arrested for that, but we could have got killed.

1:00:39Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:What I'm curious about is to do these pranks, you have to have - We were fearless. It's confidence. Yeah, we were fearless, bro. What is it? Is it fearlessness? Is it an abundance mentality?

1:00:50Kyle Forgeard:He and Jesse will talk about this and he'll tell me, he's like, bro, Kyle, you were f***ed, bro. Like he's like, you were just like.

1:00:56Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:So where, where does this fearlessness come from? Is it abundance? Because you know, nothing can happen to you. You'll always be fine. Like you're financially insulated. You have friends. Sounds more like delusion. Is it like, no matter what you do, it's.

1:01:07Kyle Forgeard:You have no care for consequences? We were young. We were young. We were trying to make it. We didn't have money. So there was nothing to lose. And we were, yeah, we were just trying to make it. And, but yeah, maybe we felt a little invincible too. And like, we got lucky. we definitely got lucky a lot of people i've seen some pranksters get arrested recently for and i don't know i guess when we got arrested too we just we have always found like a good lawyer and like we like angled it to where like yo we'll try to like help you with publicity or something too and like but what about confidence how does confidence play into the equation for

1:01:44Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:pranks or just yeah just in general in order to do all of that stuff you have to be i feel like pretty confident have you always been confident or is this something you've developed over time

1:01:52Kyle Forgeard:I don't know I can sometimes be a little bit of an introvert off camera like um I think I don't know I think the pranks we just got so good at it bro for some reason and like I don't know it just came so naturally to us and then once we figured out that recipe of like how to like with someone like we just became so good at it and yeah we definitely became confident with it because we just knew how to do and we knew how to shoot it and we knew how to like get the reaction and we knew how to like edit it properly you know like even when we're doing it we just became so good at it too like the production side of it too is like like let's say i'm pranking you like you got to make sure your cameraman's like stationed in the right spot to get his face like so we're like about to do it and we'll be like cameraman like go there don't stand over there it's like it was just like a little science that we just got so good at is there ever a prank

1:02:43Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:that you filmed that you didn't post how often does that probably yeah we did something in greenland

1:02:50Kyle Forgeard:recently yeah we might drop it but uh i don't know people are so sensitive to now but uh i don't really give a but like yeah i think we we did kind of like uh we kind of treated it like it was north korea we might drop it we shot it like months ago when the first green lens started popping up yeah you remember that and now it's like hot again so we're like we might drop it but uh i think now we went to people's doors and just said like we kind of treated it like north korea yeah we were like in american outfits and we like had big photos of trump and we're like, hey, you got to hang this in your house.

1:03:20Kyle Forgeard:Like, you know, you're going to be part of us soon. And like we printed it like it was Kim Jong-un. Like, hey, make sure this is facing the sun at all times. People are going to be coming by to check that the photos hung in your house. And like we gave them U.S. cash and said like, you know, you're going to need this soon.

1:03:35Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Now you have to post. That sounds hilarious. Because all the comments. You have to think about it this way. But people take it so seriously too. But who cares about the sense of people?

1:03:44Kyle Forgeard:It's clearly good content. But then the Canadians will get on my attitude like this guy's not even american it's like i'm like i'm playing like a character like i think you just have to own it i remember there's been a few little times of

1:03:56Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:controversy and you've just fully leaned into it and it's been i'm really giving less and less of

1:04:02Kyle Forgeard:a now because the internet is just so dumb now i think it's people believe everything they see too people are so sensitive and it's also just like yeah the state of the internet now is i think I think with the streaming maybe it like changed stuff

1:04:16Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:or like yeah how did streaming change the whole game because a lot of people are now realizing that streamers are making like way more than YouTubers have ever made

1:04:25Kyle Forgeard:well they're making yeah I guess from gambling only right if you don't have a gambling deal you're not rolling in it like that but if you're a streamer and you're on kick and you're getting a gambling deal then you're making pretty decent money I guess people are making good money off subs too right but dude I even realized it too we just did our whole or our hundred mile stream and the clippers they're getting paid off views right you guys know how that works yeah so the captions that they're making off our like 100 mile stream that i just did are like

1:04:56Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:totally you almost getting hit by the truck or whatever but they're just they'll they'll write

1:05:00Kyle Forgeard:something completely fake in the caption yeah just to like get views yeah and like i even we're all looking at that and we're just dying at all the captions and like bro as a joke the other day i you know 905 shooter yeah like i said on the stream i was like yeah 90 got vitale out of jail because he's from the philippines yeah and like there's like 10 clips about it that people actually believe it and i'm like i think it's just because these clippers are getting paid the more views they get the more they get paid so they're just like it's kind of literally paying to spread misinformation like they're sitting there saying how can i just make this clip viral i don't give a if it's true or not i'm gonna make the craziest caption and like make it go more viral yeah so i think that's one thing that's

1:05:41Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:where would you draw the line though because if you're doing the greenland video which i think

1:05:45Kyle Forgeard:you gotta that's funny but like is there a point like we did one we did one devil in a church people didn't like that one i thought it was funny i've actually had the idea for like what you mean people who's people um i guess because we have more of like uh maybe a right we have like a right wing audience so like i guess they don't like obviously when we're with like a church or something so like but do you have like but how do you know people don't do you just show this

1:06:08Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:we posted it and people didn't like it but it wasn't even like really doing well but i dressed

1:06:12Kyle Forgeard:up in like full devil makeup like prosthetics and like painted myself red with like the thing and then we we walked into a church and then we're just like who the hell's talking about me in here and then everyone like went quiet and we're like oh now that i'm here like you guys want to talk behind my back but now that i'm here no one wants to say it's my face like everyone's quiet now that i actually showed up and then like they didn't even react like people were laughing i think people yeah but it's like okay the church should be that's okay the church should be like the off

1:06:44Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:limits yeah i actually i'm not i'm not religious whatsoever but i hear that and i'm like i can totally see yeah i see this one it's people that are like scared of the boogeyman in church like this is people's like full i know yeah the free land thing i think everyone just think hey a church that's the one safe spot. So that's the answer to your question. But do you have someone that you show these videos to and run them by first of like, hey, is this safe? Yeah, we'll show the whole chat. What's the craziest idea you've ever had you didn't pursue?

1:07:12Kyle Forgeard:The devil in a church one we've had for a while. I don't know. I think we've pulled off. There's some ones that like, I don't know. Like what's the dream prank? Dream prank? You could do anything. So we're actually going to be something I haven't said anywhere too, but there's a good chance that we might, uh, we might have our own, like, I don't know what it's going to be called, but call it like Nelk Unleashed or it's going to be basically Nelk pranks on steroids. And, um, there's a list of pranks that we've always wanted to pull off that we just haven't had the budget and the resources for. And, um, that might be like our own TV show on a streaming service this year that'd be cool yeah so we're uh we're really deep in talks with a few streaming services and we're kind of choosing which one we want to put that on so it'll be like our version of punked yeah kind of but with celebrities involved pranking celebrities and then also doing pranks with celebrities on their friends yeah or other celebrities but there's a big list of pranks that we've had that like picture like if nelk had a million dollars to shoot any prank they want like unlimited budget per episode that's kind of something that we that might go down this year so you'll see some some crazy we've always wanted to do maybe that sounds like a phenomenal opportunity yeah yeah yeah and we got we have you guys know our celebrity rolodex so there's a lot

1:08:43Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:lot of people that we want to uh i know what you're gonna ask with and stuff yeah speaking of the celebrity rolodex who's the most famous person you have in your phone probably drake and does drake just like randomly text you if he sees a video of you or something or do you just like

1:08:57Kyle Forgeard:oh we dm more okay yeah we'll d we'll dm on instagram more but that's just insane yeah i got like i got like a close friend story that i'll post on that i only have the boys on so i'll post like i got like only boys on there no chicks so i'll just like post like funny or like snipe salim like when he's like dude like just like joke so like a lot of people like that reply

1:09:21Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:so that's crazy your life is pretty insane like i mean you're just texting drake so that's which is crazy because i've looked up to him my whole life too as like an entrepreneur

1:09:30Kyle Forgeard:and an entertainer obviously love his music too but yeah he's from the same basically area as me yeah so what's the thing in your life that when it happens it has you questioning like how is this real life like that like meeting people i've always looked up to like yeah meeting i've met pretty much everyone that i've ever looked up to and yeah or like when drake brought me the watch for my birthday it's just like that lasts for like months bro it's still like i still look at it and i'm like how did i grow up like looking up to this person and like not only is he when he reached out to me and dm'd me once and just said like yo like keep doing your like that was enough but like to get like a gift from him and like let you know he's like telling me he's like a fan of what i'm doing that's the that's just like surreal to me you know what i mean or even like yeah meeting justin bieber justin bieber yeah and like yeah the first time he reached out to me anyone that you've really like looked up dana white too bro like i used to tell my friends because people will say i'm a ufc casual too but i've been watching ufc since like eighth grade when they were on spike tv me and my dad used to watch it all the time yeah so i've been watching ufc for so long and i used to tell everyone i was like i remember dana followed our full send instagram account and i like i told everyone i was like bro if we can ever do anything with the ufc just like any like one thing i was like that would be a dream come true for me and now to like like tonight I just get to go to like UFC fights all the time.

1:11:02Kyle Forgeard:That is unreal. And like I can call Dana a friend. I can call him. I can text him for advice. It's just, it's surreal, bro. It's so, I'm very grateful for it, yeah.

1:11:14Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:I'm curious, what is it like to have someone like Dana White as a friend? It's nice. Like I imagine you just have unlimited access. You have a genius in your phone that you can reach out to for any business advice. whereas other people like they're trying to build their own startup or something and they're like okay like these are the people i have access to like that is a yeah insane resource he's just so

1:11:35Kyle Forgeard:loyal bro i mean like i don't know what it is but he just like yeah i don't know he just really liked like me and him and steve really hit it off and we became friends when we first went to abu dhabi during covid and we just became friends and we started like just trying to do each other favors because he had his alcohol brand howler head and like we were helping because we had a huge you know drinking audience so we were helping him promote it so we would like do him a favor with howler head and promote the out of it and then he'd go back and like do something for us and it's hard to compete with him but we would do our best to like favor favor favor favor favor favor favor wow and like yeah we have no obviously formal partnership with the ufc or nothing like that like it's just friends helping friends and yeah he's really such a loyal guy like he'll never turn his back on you but if he hates you you're forever like he does peloton yeah like bro like if yeah remember that but like yeah you gotta be an idiot to go after dana white but like off off camera too like everyone he meets like if he's walking through a crowd and like people are taking photos with him he's taking a photo with every we got a photo with him every single person like he's like the nicest guy um and yeah he's just a true loyal friend everyone that is friends

1:12:53Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:with him knows how loyal he is we met him this one night it was because of vegas matt so we got vegas matt matt introduced us to steve steve was gonna hang out with dana dana came to red rock casino and we were all there and they brought us in the back room steve was gambling right next to Dana. Steve was, you know, playing, I think he had$500 ,000 is how much he owed the casino. In a debt, basically. And he was playing smaller hands, like$5 ,000, $5 ,000. Dana was playing$100 ,000 hands. Dana would win, and he'd pay off$100 ,000. Yeah, he does that every time. And then he'd play some more, win $100 ,000, pay off Steve.

1:13:30Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:And every single time Steve got$100 ,000 paid off, he'd go, oh my God. And he'd like grab onto Graham or something and be like, this is crazy, this is crazy. And then his entire$500 ,000 got wiped out. Yeah. Like, immediately. Yeah. That's crazy. And Daniel was just like... That was surreal to see. Yeah. Just even seeing$100 ,000 chips like that and just, like, just throwing them in like it was nothing.

1:13:49Kyle Forgeard:They're animals, bro. It was insane. Yeah, they're animals on the blackjack table.

1:13:53Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:And seeing his focus, too. Like, he was locked in. Dana? On, yeah, his bachiro.

1:13:57Kyle Forgeard:Well, he's there to win, too. Yeah. Like, that's, yeah. He's competitive. When I play blackjack, too, I've learned from him, too. And he's told me, too, like, you can't really ask for more than a double up. and like if you actually want to win too i know it's fun to gamble drunk like it's fun obviously i'll do it like sometimes too but if you actually want to win going in there sober and just trying to like the second you like i've seen dana play like three hands and he's done like he'll go win once win twice win three times he doubles his money he's done i'm like bro you played for a minute and but he doubled his money and he's out so like that's what he tells me too he's like bro like once you double up you can't ask for much more than that you know like if i'm buying in with 50 grand and i get to 100 it's like bro you just want 50k what else do you want that's true

1:14:42Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:so moving forward with nelk with kyle what are your main goals over the next few years i know you were saying that like you would consider exiting happy dad you know you have the merch that's still like crushing and everything the podcast that's really interesting thing what would you say are your goals um i mean the fitness too running yeah personally i just want to like

1:15:02Kyle Forgeard:just be the best version of myself too and just like like mentally spiritually just like yeah take care of my friends my family continue to do that keep up with my fitness i really want to take that to like another level too because i love like working out i just love the way it makes me feel and then entertainment wise yeah i kind of just um i started out really wanting to be when I was in high school, I wanted to be like a director and like a writer of like movies and content and stuff like that. I was really good at like that in high school. And the prank just kind of stuck, you know, but I've always been good at the back end and the production.

1:15:40Kyle Forgeard:So I think in the second half of this decade, I'm kind of looking at it as like a new chapter. It's like the second half of a decade. And yeah, I think it'll, I really want to do a lot of elevated content keep up with the social media like we're gonna do no videos we're actually shooting a lot of short pranks cool because i think shorts are really where it's at now too we're gonna put out a lot of those short bangers the pranks we do podcasts but i really want to uh i'm working on a few things in like elevated content i'm actually i wrote a an animated series kind of like our version of uh a south park so i i wrote that i've been writing that for the last i came up with the idea about two years ago i could tell you guys it's called like degenerates that could be funny yeah like that could be it's just it's not going to be no characters like it's not like i'm a character i may or may not play a voice and then we have a bunch of characters and it'll just kind of be like yeah our picture like an animated series in our style and our tone yeah and it's kind of uh yeah it's it's pretty funny so we're working on that jesse's actually working on that with me too that's great to see yeah we're working on that and um yeah i think that could be a big thing i'm i would love to get that out in 2026 that would be so sick what about wife and kids one day yeah what are your thoughts 100 yeah i definitely want to find the right girl the thing with me is like yeah right now i'm definitely not gonna i'm not gonna date a girl anymore just to like dater there's no point in that you know what i mean like i think the next girl i date will probably be the girl i marry i think yeah because there's just no point of like you know a pointless relationship i think but i also don't i don't want to be the guy that gets divorced too like i want to like dude that's a big commitment to be married to someone for the rest of your life so um but i think i think everything comes to you at the right time anything like even like you know exiting happy dad or because i've looked back in life too where it's like have you ever wanted something at a moment and it didn't happen and you're you were so bummed in the moment but then you look back and you're like you know what if that happened in that moment actually i don't think it would have been good for me right it might have led me down a bad path so i think even getting the right girl or the right business thing happening to you at the right time I think everything comes to you at the right time.

1:18:09Kyle Forgeard:So right now I'm kind of just like focusing on being the best version of myself and like attracting who I want and like a partner, I think, if that makes sense. I agree with you. Good ending. You ended a little deep like that? Yeah. Dude, that's a perfect ending. Actually, I'm in the same spot, man.

1:18:24Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:So maybe in a few years we'll shoot another podcast. Are you guys wifed up or no? Yeah. I got married a year and a half ago. How's it been? Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Really, I have a year and a half ago.

1:18:34Kyle Forgeard:Okay, nice. Yeah.

1:18:34Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Yes. But we've been together since 2019. Okay. Yeah. So it's great. Where'd you propose? Santa Monica. At the top of the Ferris wheel at the pier, the Santa Monica pier. Yeah, that's where we had our first date. So I just recreated our first date. But yeah, it's been great. Hell yeah. That's awesome, bro.

1:18:52Kyle Forgeard:Well, I appreciate you guys for having me. Thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, you guys kill it. This has been a blast, dude.

1:18:57Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:We got to run this back in a couple of years. 100%. We will.

1:18:59Kyle Forgeard:Yeah.

1:18:59Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:And by the way, this has been a podcast we've wanted to do since we started the Ice Coffee

1:19:03Kyle Forgeard:hour in 2020 hell yeah no you guys are awesome i think i sent you a few dms and uh i looked a little crazy sending you multiple i don't i don't go on a lot of pods really so like yeah but i should start now this is cool i think you should too you guys yeah thank you man thank you boys appreciate it thanks man appreciate you guys thank you guys so much for watching

1:19:20Iced Coffee Hour Hosts:Thank you for coming on.